[RBW] Re: Whoa! Bombadil component alert!

[Garth]

As stated, Bullmoose bars disappeared for a good reason. No
adjustability in reach or angles. My '83 Stumpjumper had one, but
would-be thief tried damaged it in college. It was the best thing that
ever happened, as I got a Specialized Slingshot stem and bar instead.

Personally, the photo of the Bombadil with the stacked spacers looks
kinda silly, like a threadless wanna be. I'm surprised they made the
quill too short.

Looks are fine for show, but function trumps everything.


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[RBW] Re: Whoa! Bombadil component alert!

[JoelMatthews]

But doesn't a lot depend on planning and intended use?  Presumably
someone who shells out the dough for a Bombadil is going to put a lot
of thought into fit and function.  If the Bullmoose work well for your
intended use then the lack of adjustability is not a problem.

My camper has a threaded stem and drop bars because I like to change
set up depending on where I am riding.  However, I have seen a lot of
fellow tourers who have threadless stems with minimal spacers on them
(meaning no room for up and down adjustment) and flat bars.  I guess
they can always flip or change the stem and put on different
handlebars.  But you can always take the Bullmoose off and put on
another stem and bars as well.

I imagine Nitto Bullmoose are going to be rugged as heck.  Probably a
good choice - if expensive and not for the many - for off road camping
imo.

On Jul 5, 6:11 am, Garth  wrote:
> As stated, Bullmoose bars disappeared for a good reason. No
> adjustability in reach or angles. My '83 Stumpjumper had one, but
> would-be thief tried damaged it in college. It was the best thing that
> ever happened, as I got a Specialized Slingshot stem and bar instead.
>
> Personally, the photo of the Bombadil with the stacked spacers looks
> kinda silly, like a threadless wanna be. I'm surprised they made the
> quill too short.
>
> Looks are fine for show, but function trumps everything.
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[RBW] Re: Taking My Atlantis on Tour

[SpiralCage]

Thanks all, so far I'm having a good time. I make it to the coast
tonight- can't wait.

That is indeed a Nitto Big Front Rack- a great piece of kit highly
reccomended.

-Robert

On Jul 4, 12:22 pm, Kelly  wrote:
> Looks like a great bike, and a fun route.
>
> David,
> The rack apears to be a Nitto big front rack from Rivendell.
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[RBW] Re: Taking My Atlantis on Tour

[Nicholas Grieco]

What issues did you have with the Nova?

On Jul 4, 12:03 pm, David Shadmon  wrote:
> Robert,
> Good luck and have fun!
> Question: what is the front rack on your bike?  I had issues with mine (Tubus 
> Nova SS) on my 2008 1,300 miles tour of Quebec, and, planning ahead for 2010, 
> your setup looks like just what I need...
> Thanks,
> David
>
> --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Robert Kirkpatrick  wrote:
>
> From: Robert Kirkpatrick 
> Subject: [RBW] Taking My Atlantis on Tour
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:52 PM
>
> Hey all,
>
> So once again I'm setting off on tour my my trusty Atlantis. Running about 
> the same setup some of you might remember from my 2007 tour, but with of 
> course some modifications based on lessons learned and a bit extra stuff as 
> its a bit longer tour.  Anyway I'll be blogging when I can from the road here:
>
> 
>
> and uploading pics from my iPhone here:
>
> 
>
> Also of course when I can.  Anyway I'm hitting the road in just a couple of 
> minutes, thanks for looking!
>
> -Robert
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[RBW] Re: Taking My Atlantis on Tour

[RoadieRyan]

Your whole trip looks awesome, I took a similar trip down the OR and
CA coast from Cannon Beach to San Diego with a old VW van in '92..
Not much faster than by bike ;-)

If I may offer a suggestion there is a great little coffee shop in
Cannon Beach called Bella Espresso, great for a cuppa and a baked good
-the cinniamon rolls are awesome.

Clear Skies, tail wind quiet roads - enjoy

RR

On Jul 4, 11:52 am, Robert Kirkpatrick  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> So once again I'm setting off on tour my my trusty Atlantis. Running  
> about the same setup some of you might remember from my 2007 tour, but  
> with of course some modifications based on lessons learned and a bit  
> extra stuff as its a bit longer tour.  Anyway I'll be blogging when I  
> can from the road here:
>
> 
>
> and uploading pics from my iPhone here:
>
> 
>
> Also of course when I can.  Anyway I'm hitting the road in just a  
> couple of minutes, thanks for looking!
>
> -Robert
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Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27

[brookea]

hello,

july 31st (as well as august dates) would work well.

it looks like i can probably carpool to the start with my friend.
caltrain would have worked well as far as public transport goes ...
perhaps the start could be near one of those stops in case other car-
less riders want to join.

:)
brooke

On Jul 4, 3:25 pm, Christopher Paul  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> August 9th I'm riding from Sunnyvale to San Luis Obispo.  I'll be
> riding a tandem with my 8 yr old boy. The mileage will vary from 40-60
> miles per day with stops for waterfalls, animals, volcanic plugs and
> other unique sights.
>
> I'm always up for a s24o.   I'm flexible as to distance and pace and
> also am familiar with Pacific Coast rides and places to camp.  I
> prefer to eat out as I don't cook or like to carry cooking stuff.
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> > I'm just finishing up the semester and haven't scheduled anything yet.
> > I'm thinking late July.
>
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM, erik jensen wrote:
> >> Has this gone off yet? I saved it in my inbox, but my partner and I will be
> >> moving to the bay area on July 1st and would love to join up with some 
> >> local
> >> riders for an s24o. She rides a saluki, I've an atlantis.
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> erik jensen
>
> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> OK, roll call time. Anyone from the Peninsula area (let's say, San
> >>> Jose to Redwood City, more or less) who is interested in a sub-24
> >>> overnight, email me. Let me know what your schedule is, and what
> >>> destinations appeal to you. Let's think about a trip in late June or
> >>> late July.
>
> >>> --
> >>> -- Anne Paulson
>
> >>> My hovercraft is full of eels
>
> > --
> > -- Anne Paulson
>
> > My hovercraft is full of eels

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[RBW] biggest tire on Hilsen?

[Mike]

I'm curious what the biggest tire is people have put on their Hilsen,
with and without fenders.

Anyone know what tire Grant is running on his Hilsen in the staff bike
photos on the Riv website? It's some kind of Schwalbe.

I guess I'm asking because I'm curious if it's possible to run these:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/tires_tubes_pumps_patches?a=1&page=all#product=10-068

I guess I could always just call Riv tomorrow, figued I'd ask here
first.

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B

[clevewheel]

Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The
only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would
be a 40mm Pasela.  Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately
praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came
from.  I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
to say, in commuterland.

Kathryn
Eugene, OR

On Jul 4, 11:23 am, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires.  Anyone
> ridden them?  Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells?  I'm
> anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for
> the $62 price tag.  I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd
> like some input on how they ride.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: biggest tire on Hilsen?

[CycloFiend]

on 7/5/09 10:02 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> I'm curious what the biggest tire is people have put on their Hilsen,
> with and without fenders.
> 
> Anyone know what tire Grant is running on his Hilsen in the staff bike
> photos on the Riv website? It's some kind of Schwalbe.
> 
> I guess I'm asking because I'm curious if it's possible to run these:
> 
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/tires_tubes_pumps_patches?a=1&page=all#pr
> oduct=10-068
> 
> I guess I could always just call Riv tomorrow, figued I'd ask here
> first.

I've only run the JB's (33 1/3), but back when the Hilsen was just coming
out, GP sent some clearance info to me which is on this page -

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/hilsen/

scroll down a tad to see the photos and text.  37's seem not to be an issue.

hope that helps,

- J

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[RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[CycloFiend]

Not mine, don't know the seller, etc...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333

or 
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 11:25 -0700, clevewheel wrote:
> Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The
> only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would
> be a 40mm Pasela.

Amen, sister!  The Hetre is amazing, and there's nothing else out there
even close.  What a gem of a tire!  Well worth the price, in my book.
(Of course, I'm not considering it for urban commuting service.  For
that, I find the CdlV is excellent, and a great bargain.)


>   Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately
> praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came
> from.  I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> to say, in commuterland.


Not all commutes are through a no-mans' land of shrapnel and glass
fragments, and I've found the CdlV to be quite adequately flat-resistant
and long-wearing.




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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[Bruce]

The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the serial # to know. 
The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned in the ad) than the original. 

I've always liked that Sherwood Green.





From: CycloFiend 
To: rbw group 
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:02:03 PM
Subject: [RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block


Not mine, don't know the seller, etc...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333

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[RBW] Re: Since I Just Alluded to It On My Sig Line...

[fenderbender]

How could anyone not want a nicely shellac and twine decorated
bandage? Nice skin tone, matching them handlebars when you ride down
for the weekly checkup not to mention how smudge and oil resistant
it'll be! We might even see a future profession with in medicine here?
If only Grant knew...

On 4 Juli, 19:42, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 7/4/09 5:39 AM, fenderbender at pedal_kr...@yahoo.se wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sorry to hear about your accident! Worked I allways thought there's
> > not enough attention payed to these issues in the education of
> > drivers.
> > So have you had that cotton finger wrap shellac'd yet? ;)
>
> HA!
>
> Nice idea... maybe if I twine it shut first.  Heckuva lot more classy than
> the stitches.
>
> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[Jim Cloud]

The decal on the downtube of the bicycle on eBay is the same as that
on my Rivendell, which was purchased new by me in 1996 (I'd assume it
was also used in 1995).  The only thing that looks unusual to me is
the Reynolds 531 decal on the forks, I'm relatively sure that Reynolds
753 was the only tubing used by Waterford on these early build bikes
(it certainly is what they used on my Riv).

Jim

On Jul 5, 1:35 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the serial # to 
> know. The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned in the ad) than the 
> original.
>
> I've always liked that Sherwood Green.
>
> 
> From: CycloFiend 
> To: rbw group 
> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:02:03 PM
> Subject: [RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block
>
> Not mine, don't know the seller, 
> etc...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333
>
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/q3uty5
>
> It is, of course, perfectly my size, but I'm not in the position to move on
> it right now.  Hope it gets a good home!
>
> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[James Warren]

About the Reynolds 531 tubing, I recall early Rivendell readers talking 
about the frames being 753 with forks that used 531. (I'm not saying 
that all came this way, but I do remember it.)

Furthermore, the Heron Touring I used to have was made at Waterford in 
1998, and its frame and fork were both made of Reynolds 531, with 
stickers and everything, so Waterford was still using 531.

-James


On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Jim Cloud wrote:

>
> The decal on the downtube of the bicycle on eBay is the same as that
> on my Rivendell, which was purchased new by me in 1996 (I'd assume it
> was also used in 1995).  The only thing that looks unusual to me is
> the Reynolds 531 decal on the forks, I'm relatively sure that Reynolds
> 753 was the only tubing used by Waterford on these early build bikes
> (it certainly is what they used on my Riv).
>
> Jim
>
> On Jul 5, 1:35 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>> The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the serial 
>> # to know. The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned in the 
>> ad) than the original.
>>
>> I've always liked that Sherwood Green.
>>
>> 
>> From: CycloFiend 
>> To: rbw group 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:02:03 PM
>> Subject: [RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block
>>
>> Not mine, don't know the seller, 
>> etc...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333
>>
>> orhttp://tinyurl.com/q3uty5
>>
>> It is, of course, perfectly my size, but I'm not in the position to 
>> move on
>> it right now.  Hope it gets a good home!
>>
>> - J
>>
>> --
>> Jim Edgar
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>>
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> >


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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[James Warren]

Well, I was compelled to dig out the old RR's, and I found the 
following in Reader #3, describing the forthcoming Rivendell frames, 
back in 1995:

"Forks. The Reynolds 531 standard fork blade is legendary for its good 
ride, strength...We've got the 753 steerer, because it's a little 
lighter than the 531 steerer."

-James


On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Jim Cloud wrote:

>
> The decal on the downtube of the bicycle on eBay is the same as that
> on my Rivendell, which was purchased new by me in 1996 (I'd assume it
> was also used in 1995).  The only thing that looks unusual to me is
> the Reynolds 531 decal on the forks, I'm relatively sure that Reynolds
> 753 was the only tubing used by Waterford on these early build bikes
> (it certainly is what they used on my Riv).
>
> Jim
>
> On Jul 5, 1:35 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>> The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the serial 
>> # to know. The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned in the 
>> ad) than the original.
>>
>> I've always liked that Sherwood Green.
>>
>> 
>> From: CycloFiend 
>> To: rbw group 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:02:03 PM
>> Subject: [RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block
>>
>> Not mine, don't know the seller, 
>> etc...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333
>>
>> orhttp://tinyurl.com/q3uty5
>>
>> It is, of course, perfectly my size, but I'm not in the position to 
>> move on
>> it right now.  Hope it gets a good home!
>>
>> - J
>>
>> --
>> Jim Edgar
>> cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>>
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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[Jim Cloud]

Hi James - Yeah, now you got me looking at my old Riv Readers. I see
on page 31 of the #3 Reader ("Rivendell Frames") that Grant stated
they were using Reynold 531 for the forks, as you quoted.  Gosh, if
I'd known that at the time I might have asked them to chrome the fork
on my Riv!  (You can't chrome Reynold 753 because it was heat treated,
as you probably know).

Jim

On Jul 5, 3:35 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> Well, I was compelled to dig out the old RR's, and I found the
> following in Reader #3, describing the forthcoming Rivendell frames,
> back in 1995:
>
> "Forks. The Reynolds 531 standard fork blade is legendary for its good
> ride, strength...We've got the 753 steerer, because it's a little
> lighter than the 531 steerer."
>
> -James
>
> On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Jim Cloud wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > The decal on the downtube of the bicycle on eBay is the same as that
> > on my Rivendell, which was purchased new by me in 1996 (I'd assume it
> > was also used in 1995).  The only thing that looks unusual to me is
> > the Reynolds 531 decal on the forks, I'm relatively sure that Reynolds
> > 753 was the only tubing used by Waterford on these early build bikes
> > (it certainly is what they used on my Riv).
>
> > Jim
>
> > On Jul 5, 1:35 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> >> The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the serial
> >> # to know. The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned in the
> >> ad) than the original.
>
> >> I've always liked that Sherwood Green.
>
> >> 
> >> From: CycloFiend 
> >> To: rbw group 
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:02:03 PM
> >> Subject: [RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block
>
> >> Not mine, don't know the seller,
> >> etc...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333
>
> >> orhttp://tinyurl.com/q3uty5
>
> >> It is, of course, perfectly my size, but I'm not in the position to
> >> move on
> >> it right now.  Hope it gets a good home!
>
> >> - J
>
> >> --
> >> Jim Edgar
> >> cyclofi...@earthlink.net
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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[Bruce]

Jim: This is the early Rivendell logo on my 1995 Road. This bike, btw has the 
standard Waterford Head tube, that is, it lacks the headtube extension visible 
on the green eBay bike. You can see the double ended spear looking thingamajig 
horizontally backing the name.





From: Jim Cloud 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 4:29:55 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block


The decal on the downtube of the bicycle on eBay is the same as that
on my Rivendell, which was purchased new by me in 1996 (I'd assume it
was also used in 1995). 



  
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[RBW] Re: biggest tire on Hilsen?

[Richard]

Take a look at the Rivendell website.  In the "Read About It" section
for the Hilsen, the maximum tire size is stated as 40mm without
fenders, 38mm with.

Good luck.

On Jul 5, 2:52 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 7/5/09 10:02 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm curious what the biggest tire is people have put on their Hilsen,
> > with and without fenders.
>
> > Anyone know what tire Grant is running on his Hilsen in the staff bike
> > photos on the Riv website? It's some kind of Schwalbe.
>
> > I guess I'm asking because I'm curious if it's possible to run these:
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/tires_tubes_pumps_patches?a=1&pa...
> > oduct=10-068
>
> > I guess I could always just call Riv tomorrow, figued I'd ask here
> > first.
>
> I've only run the JB's (33 1/3), but back when the Hilsen was just coming
> out, GP sent some clearance info to me which is on this page -
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/hilsen/
>
> scroll down a tad to see the photos and text.  37's seem not to be an issue.
>
> hope that helps,
>
> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B

[JoelMatthews]

> I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> to say, in commuterland.

Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain
bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes -
owners.

Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent.  It will be interesting
to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b.
Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now.

On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel  wrote:
> Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The
> only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would
> be a 40mm Pasela.  Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately
> praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came
> from.  I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> to say, in commuterland.
>
> Kathryn
> Eugene, OR
>
> On Jul 4, 11:23 am, "colin p. cummings" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires.  Anyone
> > ridden them?  Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells?  I'm
> > anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for
> > the $62 price tag.  I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd
> > like some input on how they ride.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Colin Cummings
> > Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B

[JoelMatthews]

Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b.
No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though.

On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> > reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> > to say, in commuterland.
>
> Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain
> bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes -
> owners.
>
> Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent.  It will be interesting
> to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b.
> Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now.
>
> On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The
> > only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would
> > be a 40mm Pasela.  Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately
> > praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came
> > from.  I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> > reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> > to say, in commuterland.
>
> > Kathryn
> > Eugene, OR
>
> > On Jul 4, 11:23 am, "colin p. cummings" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires.  Anyone
> > > ridden them?  Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells?  I'm
> > > anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for
> > > the $62 price tag.  I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd
> > > like some input on how they ride.
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > > Colin Cummings
> > > Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[Bill M.]

Other than being a larger size, the frame is essentially identical to
my own 1995 Road Std, right down to the Sherwood Forest green single-
color paint.  Mine lacks the "Hadcrafted - Waterford Wisconsin" decal
but the Rivendell decal is trhe  same as on mine.  Looks original and
correct to me.

Bill

On Jul 5, 1:35 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the serial # to 
> know. The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned in the ad) than the 
> original.
>
> I've always liked that Sherwood Green.
>
> 
> From: CycloFiend 
> To: rbw group 
> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:02:03 PM
> Subject: [RBW] Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block
>
> Not mine, don't know the seller, 
> etc...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170352564333
>
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/q3uty5
>
> It is, of course, perfectly my size, but I'm not in the position to move on
> it right now.  Hope it gets a good home!
>
> - J
>
> --
> Jim Edgar
> cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B

[Chris Halasz]

I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b.

Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for
bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat
manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra
standard Col de la Vie.

Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble
justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one
contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful
and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference?

Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside)
we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours
(two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi.

Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ...

Cheers,

Chris
Tucson, AZ


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews  wrote:

>
> Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b.
> No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though.
>
> On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> > > reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> > > to say, in commuterland.
> >
> > Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain
> > bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes -
> > owners.
> >
> > Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent.  It will be interesting
> > to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b.
> > Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now.
> >
> > On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The
> > > only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would
> > > be a 40mm Pasela.  Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately
> > > praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came
> > > from.  I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> > > reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> > > to say, in commuterland.
> >
> > > Kathryn
> > > Eugene, OR
> >
> > > On Jul 4, 11:23 am, "colin p. cummings" 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires.  Anyone
> > > > ridden them?  Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells?  I'm
> > > > anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for
> > > > the $62 price tag.  I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but
> I'd
> > > > like some input on how they ride.
> >
> > > > Cheers,
> >
> > > > Colin Cummings
> > > > Amarillo, TX
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: Nice 59.5 cm Rivendell Road on the block

[Tim McNamara]

On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Bill M. wrote:

> On Jul 5, 1:35 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>> The bike is lovely, but I'm not sure it's a 95. We'd need the  
>> serial # to know. The Riv decal is later (a repaint? Not mentioned  
>> in the ad) than the original.
>
> Other than being a larger size, the frame is essentially identical to
> my own 1995 Road Std, right down to the Sherwood Forest green single-
> color paint.  Mine lacks the "Hadcrafted - Waterford Wisconsin" decal
> but the Rivendell decal is trhe  same as on mine.  Looks original and
> correct to me.

Ditto comparing it with my '96 A/R (even the same size, which in  
retrospect is about 4 cm too short for me).  The color, the decals,  
the frame tubing, the lugs all seem correct.  The lugged stem of  
course came later than 1995.

Although as a point of accuracy, IIRC the lugs are not made by Henry  
James.  My recollection is that Richard Sachs had a hand in designing  
them and they were cast in Taiwan.

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B

[rob markwardt]

I got about 3 months on the Schwalbe Marathons (650b) and I like them
a lot.  I converted from CDlv's and to be honest I really can tell
much difference. My biggest gripe with the CDLVs was that they were a
major pain to mount and some of them appeared to have a built-in
wobble.  The Marathons mount easily, ride comfortably, and (best of
all) no flats yet.

On Jul 5, 6:32 pm, Chris Halasz  wrote:
> I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b.
>
> Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for
> bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat
> manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra
> standard Col de la Vie.
>
> Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble
> justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one
> contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful
> and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference?
>
> Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside)
> we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours
> (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi.
>
> Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b.
> > No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though.
>
> > On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > > I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> > > > reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> > > > to say, in commuterland.
>
> > > Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain
> > > bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes -
> > > owners.
>
> > > Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent.  It will be interesting
> > > to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b.
> > > Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now.
>
> > > On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel  wrote:
>
> > > > Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The
> > > > only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would
> > > > be a 40mm Pasela.  Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately
> > > > praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came
> > > > from.  I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even
> > > > reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is
> > > > to say, in commuterland.
>
> > > > Kathryn
> > > > Eugene, OR
>
> > > > On Jul 4, 11:23 am, "colin p. cummings" 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires.  Anyone
> > > > > ridden them?  Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells?  I'm
> > > > > anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for
> > > > > the $62 price tag.  I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but
> > I'd
> > > > > like some input on how they ride.
>
> > > > > Cheers,
>
> > > > > Colin Cummings
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[RBW] Re: Semi-Epic Ride Planned for Sunday, July 5

[XO-1.org Rough Riders]

Eleven Rough Riders enjoyed a fantastic day of cycling in the first
real hot weather of 2009: It hit about 100 at some points. The route
featured "the greatest hits" of the Mt. Laguna back country: Viejas
Grade, Boulder Creek, Lake Cuyamaca, Descanso, and Wildwood Glen Ln
(AKA "Mad Max Road") with a start/finish in Alpine, CA. 58 miles with
about 5000' of elevation gain.

Report, route sheet, and more:
http//www.xo-1.org/

Video Slideshow with Music:
http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2009/2009bouldercreek.html

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Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27

[reidplum]

I'm pretty sure that I'm up for it, as long as it doesn't bug anyone
that I'd be the slowest one up the hill. I'll get to the top
eventually. The only weekend that doesn't work for me is August 14 -
16.

Reid


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[RBW] Re: Semi-Epic Ride Planned for Sunday, July 5

[Esteban]

Looked like a lot of fun. I'm game for the next one...and I have Mill
Valley 2010 on my calendar!

On Jul 5, 10:24 pm, "XO-1.org Rough Riders" 
wrote:
> Eleven Rough Riders enjoyed a fantastic day of cycling in the first
> real hot weather of 2009: It hit about 100 at some points. The route
> featured "the greatest hits" of the Mt. Laguna back country: Viejas
> Grade, Boulder Creek, Lake Cuyamaca, Descanso, and Wildwood Glen Ln
> (AKA "Mad Max Road") with a start/finish in Alpine, CA. 58 miles with
> about 5000' of elevation gain.
>
> Report, route sheet, and more:
> http//www.xo-1.org/
>
> Video Slideshow with 
> Music:http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2009/2009bouldercreek.html
>
> Image 
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>
> - Chris Kostman
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