Re: python shell
Krypto wrote: > I have been using python shell to test small parts of the big program. > What other ways can I use the shell effectively. My mentor told me > that you can virtually do anything from testing your program to > anything in the shell. Any incite would be useful. > I'm not sure this will help - but! I use a text editor (EditPlus under Windows) as a mini IDE. Some text editors have a concept of "tools" where you can run the "tool" from within the editor and it calls an external program to run the source code in the editor. With EditPlus the tool looks something like: Menu text: Python Command: C:\Python25\python.exe Argument: "$(FileName)" Initial directory: $(FileDir) Capture output: [X] Output from the program run is captured in an "output window". A full blown IDE it ain't but handy it is. Regards, Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things — Niccolo Machiavelli, "The Prince", ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: what IDE is the best to write python?
I have a "thing" about editors; a good editor is my tool of trade! I have tried many editors over the years mainly in the MS Windows, Linux and IBM mainframe environments. After all this I really like EditPlus (and the a slightly lesser extent Textpad). What both have in common is their "Clip Library" or "Clip Text" (I think its called in Textpad). A Clip Library is a simple text file that appears in a side panel next to the main edit panel. Double click on a Clip Library element and it is automatically pasted into the edit panel at the current cursor position. The Clip Library content can also be pased around highlighted text in the edit panel. Here is a simple of an EditPlus Clip Library for what I call a "short script": #T=Short script ^# ^!.py ^# The purpose of this script is def main(): {code here} main() #T=Next Clip Library element #T= defines the name of the Clip Library element ^# the "^" character must proceed a character that is normally a Clip Library syntax character but which you want to use in another context (a Python line comment in this case) ^! is the cursor positin after the Clip Library element has been inserted, in this case the cursor is positioned to alloy the name of the script to be typed The Clip Library element ends when the Clip Library "parser" finds either another element definition or the end of the file. Clip Libraries are stored in simple text files. This is such a simple concept but is so very productive. Who needs an IDE?. I would love to have a Linux text editor (like Scite or GEdit) that could do this. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python 3 and easygui problem
I have just installed Python 3. I have been using Tkinter and easygui (with Python 2.5.4) for any GUI needs. I have just started to port some of my existing scripts to Python 3 and discovered problems with easygui. I was using the following script for testing: from easygui import * import sys while 1: msgbox("Hello, world!") msg ="What is your favorite flavor?" title = "Ice Cream Survey" choices = ["Vanilla", "Chocolate", "Strawberry", "Rocky Road"] choice = choicebox(msg, title, choices) # note that we convert choice to string, in case # the user cancelled the choice, and we got None. msgbox("You chose: " + str(choice), "Survey Result") msg = "Do you want to continue?" title = "Please Confirm" if ccbox(msg, title): # show a Continue/Cancel dialog pass # user chose Continue else: sys.exit(0) # user chose Cancel I have changed the easygui source to Python 3 'import' and 'print' requirements and the initial message box in the above script displays fine fine. However the subsequent message boxes do not display and after the script completes I get the following error message: -- Python 3 -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "easyguidemo.py", line 10, in choice = choicebox(msg, title, choices) File "C:\Python30\lib\site-packages\easygui.py", line 703, in choicebox return __choicebox(msg,title,choices,buttons) File "C:\Python30\lib\site-packages\easygui.py", line 824, in __choicebox choices.sort( lambda x,y: cmp(x.lower(), y.lower())) # case-insensitive sort TypeError: must use keyword argument for key function Output completed (7 sec consumed) -- Fixing this is a bit beyond my skills and I was wondering whether anyone has any thoughts. I am happy to post a copy of my revised easygui.py script. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 and easygui problem
Gabriel Genellina said: That's very short-lived; cmp is gone in 3.0.1 (should not have existed in 3.0 in the first place). Try with: choices.sort(key=str.lower) Gabriel, That's worked fine - thank you. I think I now have a version of easygui.py that works with Python 3, probably needs a bit more testing. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 and easygui problem
John Machin said: Has the OP tried to contact the author/maintainer of easygui [the usually-recommended approach to problems with not-widely-used third- party modules]? Don't you think the author/maintainer might like to be consulted before you incite an OP to claim-jump his package name on PyPI? The OP (I presume you mean me) has tried to contact Steve Ferg (the original developer) but I have not had a reply yet. See my e-mail above; it is NOT my intention to place my modified script on PyPI as I AM NOT the original developer. My claim to fame is changing a few "import" and "print" statements and getting some useful advice from other members of this list. I am happy to make my modified script available unofficially and if Steve does contact me I would prefer to pass it on to him for his consideration. This little project started out to solve a personal need not to plagiarise or usurp the rights and skills of another developer. I was happy to make my simple effort available, unofficially, in return for help from other list members. I hope that resolves the issue. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 and easygui problem
Terry, I have not used PyPI before and feel a little uneasy about putting this modified script into such a public place. I have previously contacted Steve Ferg (the original developer of EasyGui) but have not had a reply. Clearly the bulk of the work is his still where as the modifications are mine (and several helpers from the Python List). Until I work out what I ought to do I have attached a copy of my script (and the test script I have been using) as is. I would really appreciate any comments. If Steve does not reply and further testing proves my modified script is sound then I will certainly look at a 'public' release. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 and easygui problem
John Machin said:* *"... the knowledge that you had attempted to contact Steve Ferg and have not yet had a response was not available on c.l.py and in any case is not a justification for incitement to hijack." John, I resent the implication that I am trying to hijack Steve's project. This was never my intention. I am uneasy about posting this rebuttal on the list as this is not what I think lists like this are for; but given your response I will post this one reply in my defence. I think that if you want to follow up this matter do it off line. For your information I have since been in contact with Steve and sent him a copy of my code. Its been my experience that there are some users of these lists who ought to hesitate before they jump in because they often are not in full possession of all the facts. Once again (and for the last time) this was a personal project, I offered to share my additions to Steve's work in an informal way to anyone who helped me with fixing error responses I was getting - its a very long bow to draw to say this constitutes hijacking. It was NEVER my intention to hijack anyone's work and I resent the accusation. To end, I have included below a statement that I added to the script that I sent to Terry: - This is an experimental version of EasyGui that has converted the latest 'official' version so that it will run under Python 3.0.1 The script is still being tested and any comments would be appreciated. NOTE: This version of the script is not from Steve Ferg although his contribution of the original script is acknowledged. This script is released under the same Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 License as the original script. Modified by: Peter Anderson Date: Monday, 23 February 2009 Contact: peterjohnander...@gmail.com - As far as I am concerned that is the end of the matter on this list. Feel free to contact me off line if you want to follow up this post. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Emacs vs. Eclipse vs. Vim
What I have done is skipped the whole Vim/Emacs obscure editor thing and opted for PyScripter (see http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductID=4 ). It might not be as complete/complex as these other editors but it is easy to use and just lets me get on with the task of cutting code. As a fall-back I also use EditPlus (see http://www.editplus.com/index.html ). Its only for Windows and its shareware so you need to pay for it. Its clip library makes it a VERY GOOD text editor. It's a real shame there are NO text editors with such a comprehensive and easy to modify clip library function (I would be really pleased to be proven wrong on this last point :-) ). However, the best advice I think that can be given about editors is keep trying them until you find the one YOU like. We all like different things, especially when it comes to editors. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Emacs vs. Eclipse vs. Vim
Stef asked: / />/ As a fall-back I also use EditPlus (see />/ http://www.editplus.com/index.html ). Its only for Windows /but PyScripter is also only for windows ;-) / and its shareware so you need to pay for it. Its clip library makes it />/ a VERY GOOD text editor. It's a real shame there are NO text editors />/ with such a comprehensive and easy to modify clip library function (I />/ would be really pleased to be proven wrong on this last point :-) ). /What so great about it ? I think you would really need to try it. As I said yesterday, I find the clip library really very useful; its simple to use and easy to create/extend. Here is a short piece of clip library from a HTML clip lib: #T=Bold ^! #T=Italic ^! #T=Underline text ^! #T=Superscript (end note) ^! #T=Code fragment ^! #T=Highligt text - yellow ^! #T=Centre text ^! Only the text on the line after the "T#" appears in the clip lib side panel. Double click on the text label and EditPlus inserts the clip text into the document being edited. The "^!" is where the cursor sits after the clip insertion. Clips can be inserted "around" existing text. Very neat; if you use Windows its really worth a try. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: IDE Question
I have been using the two following Python IDE's on both Windows and Ubuntu: * PyScripter - http://mmm-experts.com/ * DrPython - http://sourceforge.net/projects/drpython/ PyScripter is, I think, the better but both are nice editors and easy to use. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What IDE support python 3.0.1 ?
Sam (I presume), Like you I am also in the process of learning to program in Python. I have been using Python 2.5.2 for quite some time but recently made the switch to 3.0.1. Why? Because I read an article where Guido van Rossum himself recommended that anyone starting out learning Python now was wasting their time if they didn't start with Python 3. Some folks on this list will tell you there is not much difference and that seems to be true but I pleased that I made the switch. Now for your question about an IDE. I am presuming you are just beginning, perhaps done some programming in another language and probably using a Windows based PC. Given that there are some things I would recommend you stay away from (this will get the juices going :-) ): Vi, Vim, Emacs and all those old fashioned UNIX/Linux based editors - they are just too hard and why bother anyway, there are much more civilised ways of proving your manhood. Eclipse is also an over-kill. I would recommend any of the popular text editors; most will recognise Python files. I can tell you what I use: *EditPad+* - http://www.editplus.com/index.html - A great general purpose text editor that has the additional benefit of clip libraries (what?). This might not seem important but it is a great time saver. A clip library is a text file of code snippets that when you 'double-click' the required clip the editor inserts that code at the current cursor position. For example the following is a clip I use for the heading of a short script file: #T=Short script ^# ^!.py ^# The purpose of this script is def main(): {code here} main() After the clip has been inserted the cursor is positioned where the "^!" string is (before ".py") waiting for the script name to be inserted. You just build these clips to suit yourself. TextPad is another text editor with the same features. The main drawback with EditPlus is that when you run a Python script from within EditPlus and that script uses stdin (eg. an input() function) the editor can't handle it and you get an error message. I overcome this problem by using easygui (http://easygui.sourceforge.net/) dialogs for text input; a piece of cake :-) . Another drawback is that EditPlus is shareware and you have to pay for it (US35). *SciTE* - http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html - Scite is a very good little editor, it does not have the "bells and whistles" that editors like EditPlus have but it does recognise Python files and can run them from within the editor. It can also handle stdin (not that elegantly, but it works) so you don't need the easygui work-around and its free. *IDLE* - the built-in Python IDE. I have it configured so that the editor panel loads first rather than the Python prompt. Everything runs in IDLE! *PyScripter* - http://code.google.com/p/pyscripter/ - From the web site: "PyScripter is a free and open-source Python Integrated Development Environment (IDE) created with the ambition to become competitive in functionality with commercial Windows-based IDEs available for other languages." This is a true IDE with most of the things you would expect. However, I find that it gets a bit buggy at times. It does support Python 3 and is free so its worth a try. There are several other good Python editor/IDE's but they require wxPython and it has not yet been made available in a Python 3 compatible version. I hope that helps. Give me a reply if you want any more help with any of these things. Easygui is something that is really worth getting to know. A copy of Python (Second Edition) by Toby Donaldson (ISBN 13: 978-0-321-58544-8) is another good thing to have when you are learning. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python internals
Hi! I am slowly teaching myself Python. I was reading David Beazley's excellent book "Python - Essential Reference"; in particular about variables. Let me quote: "Python is a dynamically typed language in which names can represent values of different types during the execution of a program. In fact the names used in the program are really just labels for various quantities and objects. The assignment operator simply creates an association between a name and a value. This is different from C, for example, in which a name (variable) represents a fixed size and location in memory..." As an old mainframe programmer, I understand the way C does things with variable but this text got me wondering how Python handles this "association" between variable name and value at the lower level. Is it like a fifo list? If there is any Python guru that can help I would be most interested in your thoughts. Regards, Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python internals question
Hi! I am slowly teaching myself Python. I was reading David Beazley's excellent book "Python - Essential Reference"; in particular about variables. Let me quote: "Python is a dynamically typed language in which names can represent values of different types during the execution of a program. In fact the names used in the program are really just labels for various quantities and objects. The assignment operator simply creates an association between a name and a value. This is different from C, for example, in which a name (variable) represents a fixed size and location in memory..." As an old mainframe programmer, I understand the way C does things with variable but this text got me wondering how Python handles this "association" between variable name and value at the lower level. Is it like a fifo list? If there is any Python guru that can help I would be most interested in your thoughts. Regards, Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things — Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python internals
Ben Finney wrote: Larry Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The term "pointer" carries much extra baggage for a programmer thinking of C (as the original poster is)... Thanks everyone! Just a quick correction - "as the original poster is" is a bit of a jump that does not reflect my original question. I DO understand how C and other programming languages handle variables internally (the bits of actual memory reserved, etc. etc.) and that's why I asked the question in the first place. If Python doesn't do it like C and the others then what mechanism does it use - it's the sort of issue that helps me understand how the language is interacting with the underlying operating system/hardware. By way of background, in my ancient working days I looked after mainframe systems written in COBOL and Natural (and some assembler which I never had to support personally but my staff did). I found that most programmers write bad code because they don't understand what the machine is doing with their code. Probably doesn't matter any more but old habits die hard! ;-) Regards, Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python internals question
Helmut Jarausch wrote: Please have a look at ... http://rg03.wordpress.com/2007/04/21/semantics-of-python-variable-names-from-a-c-perspective/ Helmut, I found the second reference (the one above) very useful thank you. Most other respondents to my original question did not seem to understand what I was asking or didn't read the question and simply proceeded to re-state what I had quoted from Beazley - well I understood what he was saying, I simply wanted to find out how Python did it at a lower level. Your reference answered the question ;-) Thanks, Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python Written in C?
> Bah, new-fangled languages like Pascal... Real programmers write Fortran. Using punch-cards and paper-tape. Real programmers can edit their programs with a pointy stick and some home-made sticky-tape. -- Grant Edwards Reminds me of a funny story from my past working life. I had this fibre tipped pen, given to me as a freebie by some computer company. The pen had something like "Floppy Disk Pen" printed down the barrel. A colleague who was more into IT management than programming or hands-on support picked it up at a meeting and said something like - "That's interesting, what's it for?" Seeing an opportunity I replied "Its a new bit of technology that allows you to write directly to your floppy disks when you are away from your computer!" "What a great idea!" he replied in all seriousness! Maybe our friend could find one to code C# with! ;-) Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things — Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: very newbie question
Try this: # The player tries to guess it and the computer lets # the player know if the guess is too high, too low # or right on the money import random print "\tWelcome to 'Guess My Number'!" print "\nI'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100." print "Try to guess it in as few attempts as possible.\n" # set the initial values the_number = random.randrange(100) + 1 tries = 0 def ask_number(): guess = int(raw_input("Take a guess: ")) tries = 1 while (guess != the_number): if (guess > the_number): print "Lower..." else: print "Higher..." tries += 1 guess = int(raw_input("Take a guess: ")) tries += 1 ask_number() print "You guessed it! The number was", the_number print "And it only took you", tries, "tries!\n" raw_input("\n\nPress the enter key to exit.") The variables "the_number" and "tries" were not available outside the "ask_number()" module. Alternatively drop the def function and lump it all into a simple script. -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: programming toolbox
Bill Purcell said: "... I was wondering what more experienced programmers think about what languages are necessary to be able to handle most programming problems. ..." Bill, I have a similar length of experience with python to you. I look at other languages from time to time but the only two I think are worth the effort are: * PHP - because I do a bit od WordPress website work for some not-for-profits; and * Java - because I don't know why but having done C and some mainframe based languages (Natural and COBOL) when I worked the portability of Java (and PHP and Python) appeal to me. Java is a "that look's interesting" propositioned while I am learning PHP. If I were programming for a living and working on my own I would look very seriously at X-Base languages (dBase is still available) as they are quite good for small business type projects - quick to code and (more importantly) maintain, easy to produce screens and part of the underlying data storage system - not fashionable but very productive. Biggest issue I have with Python is screen input and output. I am trying to master wxPython (and Tkinter) but find this aspect harder than it ought to be. While I'm rambling on; I recently purchased "Python Programming: An introduction to Computer Science" by John Zelle (ISBN: 1-887902-99-6) a really good book, best Python text I have read. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Books about Python.
Hi! I am currently working my way through "Python Programming: An introduction to computer science" by John Zelle. Published by Franklin, Beedle & Associates. ISBN: 1-887902-99-6. Book's home page: http://www.fbeedle.com/99-6.html I have a small but quite good Python library and this is the best Python (actually best programming) book I have ever read. It is written as a text for a first year (US) college level course. Python is used because experience with other languages showed that their learning curves got in the road of the primary function of the course. "Problem Solving With Algorithms And Data Structures Using Python" by Bradley N. Miller and David L. Ranum (ISBN-10: 1590280539 or ISBN-13: 978-1590280539 Book's home page: http://www.fbeedle.com/053-9.html) is on my Amazon wish list to follow on from Zelle. This book is, as I understand it, a second year text. See the book's home page for content details. I hope that helps, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPython problem
I am trying to teach myself how to program in Python and use wxPython for GUIs. I am using PyScripter, IDLE and EditPlus as my IDEs. I have experienced an odd problem where I run a script once and it runs fine. Run it again and I get an error and the script fails. If the script is run directly from Python ('Run' from Windows Explorer) or from EditPlus (in which I have a "user-defined tool" which calls C:\Python25\pythonw.exe with the parameter of $(FileName)) then there is *never* any error, no matter how many times the script is run. Close down PyScripter or IDLE and then start either up again, load the script and run it - it runs fine. Run it again and it fails. It seems like something is already set in memory and cant be re-set (my lack of knowledge is showing here :-( ). More details are shown below. Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Peter RUNNING SIMPLE.PY (AND OTHER SCRIPTS USING WXPYTHON) FROM PYSCRIPTER I GET THE FOLLOWING ERROR MESSAGE: PyNoAppError: The wx.App object must be created first! PyScripter loads a module (I presume from wxPython) called _windows.py and highlights a particular line in red and displays the error message from above. I have Googled the error message but the results have not helped. LISTING FOR SIMPLE.PY #!/usr/bin/python # simple.py import wx app = wx.App() frame = wx.Frame(None, -1, 'simple.py') frame.Show() app.MainLoop() EXERPT FROM _WINDOWS.PY - PYSCRIPTER HIGHLIGHTS SECOND LAST LINE class Frame(TopLevelWindow): """Proxy of C++ Frame class""" thisown = property(lambda x: x.this.own(), lambda x, v: x.this.own(v), doc='The membership flag') __repr__ = _swig_repr def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs): """ __init__(self, Window parent, int id=-1, String title=EmptyString, Point pos=DefaultPosition, Size size=DefaultSize, long style=DEFAULT_FRAME_STYLE, String name=FrameNameStr) -> Frame """ # The following line is highlighted as where the error occures _windows_.Frame_swiginit(self,_windows_.new_Frame(*args, **kwargs)) self._setOORInfo(self) RUNNING THE SIMPLE.PY SCRIPT FROM WITHIN IDLE PRODUCES THE FOLLOWING ERROE MESSAGE: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\My Documents\Dev\Python\WxPython Tutorial\absolute.py", line 28, in Absolute(None, -1, '') File "C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\My Documents\Dev\Python\WxPython Tutorial\absolute.py", line 9, in __init__ wx.Frame.__init__(self, parent, id, title, size=(250, 180)) File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-unicode\wx\_windows.py", line 505, in __init__ _windows_.Frame_swiginit(self,_windows_.new_Frame(*args, **kwargs)) PyNoAppError: The wx.App object must be created first! -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython problem
Stef Mientki said: In PyScripter, you should run wxPython in the plain remote machine (not the wxPython remote),and you should set "reset before run flag" or reset the remote machine each time yourself. Stef, Thanks for the help! It has taken several hours to find and install the correct version of Rpyc (which is required to run the remote Python engine but it now seems to be working fine. And the "Reinitialise the Python engine {Alt]+[F2]" does need to be done between script runs. Given all that, the script now runs multiple times in PyScripter. The script still only runs ONCE in IDLE but I can live with that. In case others find this message from a search; I am using Python 2.5.2 and it requires rpyc-2.60.zip from the Rpyc download page (see http://rpyc.wikispaces.com/ click on the "Download" link and make sure you select the "main" link under the "Packages" column at Sourceforge. You will be shown a list of Rpyc versions. For Python 2.5.2 choose Relese "2.60". This will save you the several hours its cost me. Thanks again Stef. Regards, Peter -- Peter Anderson There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python
James, I have several Python books and am currently working my way through John Zelle's PYTHON PROGRAMMING: An Introduction to Computer Science (Publisher: Franklin, Beedle & Associates, ISBN-10: 1887902996, ISBN-13: 978-1887902991). I think this is a very good introduction to both Python AND programming I would highly recommend it. If you finish the Zelle book then you can go onto Problem Solving With Algorithms And Data Structures Using Python by Bradley N. Miller and David L. Ranum (Publisher: Franklin Beedle & Associates, ISBN-10: 1590280539, ISBN-13: 978-1590280539). These are equivalent to Python 101 and 201. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Mail delivery problems
In the last two days I have posted relies twice to the Python List. Each time my e-mail has listed successfully but I have received a reply like the following: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reporting-MTA: dns;delhi-prod01.india.kring.com Received-From-MTA: dns;kring-vt01 Arrival-Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:16:17 +0530 Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.2.2 X-Display-Name: Ajay Deshpande Subject: Re: Learning Python From: Peter Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:41:03 +1000 To: python-list@python.org The text of my message... Is this a problem? Peter -- *Peter Anderson* There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things—Niccolo Machiavelli, /The Prince/, ch. 6 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list