Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ

[Bill Nottingham]

Bernd Kunze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> I do have a Dell Latitude with Maestro 3 sound card, that's what lspci
> tells me. sndconfig recognizes it but hangs when playing the test sound.
> Also a cat /dev/dsp results in "chip lockup" messages. No sound.

Driver bug. Might already be in bugzilla, I'm not sure.

Bill

Re: Netscape Navigator 4.79?

[Bill Nottingham]

Matthew Saltzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> Can the old Netscape Navigator RPMs from RH 7.3 be used in RH 8.0?  The
> jag-offs at my bank still refuse to support Netscape 6/7/Mozilla for
> online banking.

Aside from problems with Java & the new glibc (we're looking into fixes
for that) yes, it works OK.

Bill

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Hal Burgiss]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 11:51:14PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure
> > it separately for AA. 
> > 
> > Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
> >  
> > // TrueType ///
> >  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
> >  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
> 
> These don't look right. As I understand, earlier versions could
> use freetype directly, which is what this sort of config would be for;
> what the new patch enables is use of Xft and fontconfig.

Well, they work :) This was just a matter of editing the supplied
unix.js from xft nightly (last downloaded Oct 4). I didn't add
anything, just flipped 'true' from false. The libfreetype.so.6 line
was already there. And then following the only instructions I could
find anywhere:

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fonts/unix/enabling_truetype.html

It may well have changed by now, or other builds may be doing
something different. Dunno about that. Wouldn't want to add any
unnecessary confusion :/

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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[dTd]

On 20 Oct 2002 21:57:42 -0500
David Krider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 10:21, dTd wrote:
> > I saw a package on freshmeat designed to do just this, I have forgotten
> > it's name, but a quick search for "demand dial" should get you some
> > results. As a side note, you can set an idle option to pppd that will drop
> > the connection after a certain amount of time. Not ver helpfull but hey
> > it's a start.  :)
> 
> I can't believe that no one has nailed this down yet. It's very simple
> to do, and everything you need is already in the distribution. If you
> already have your main box connecting with pppd, there's just two things
> left to do on the pppd side.
> 
> You must properly configure both network sides of your Linux box, you
> must ENABLE IP FORWARDING (this one's easy to overlook), and you must -
> as you said - enable masquerading through iptables.
> 
> (In 7.3, there was a GUI to configure everything you want. It was called
> rp3-config. I don't know if it's there in RH 8 as I have regressed to
> 7.3 again because I have issues with the font situation. I'm sure
> there's an equivalent, though it will probably be called
> `redhat-config-something'.)
> 
> Anyway, all it did was configure `ifcfg-pppX' scripts in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. The options you need are "DEMAND=yes"
> and "IDLETIMEOUT=XXX".
> 

sure but that's not what he asked for. He wants to be able to control his ppp
connection from a lan box with a graphical app. Like a remote kppp, so he can
bring the connection up and down.

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Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[dTd]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:51:14 -0400
Bill Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hal Burgiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> > If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure it
> > separately for AA. 
> > 
> > Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
> >  
> > // TrueType ///
> >  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
> >  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
> 
> These don't look right. As I understand, earlier versions could
> use freetype directly, which is what this sort of config would be for;
> what the new patch enables is use of Xft and fontconfig.
> 
> Bill
>
 
Now you tell me. And here I was thinking it worked great. :)
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Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Ryan Camick]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 22:58, Keith Morse wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2002, Keith Winston wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 23:14, Keith Morse wrote:
> >
> > There is some key combination (Alt-F10 or something) that should let you
> > bring up the BIOS on the megaraid controller when it boots, then you
> > should be able to look at the current settings and adjust them if
> > necessary.
> 
> I've been muddling thru the different bios configurations in a effort to 
> identify the resources this card uses.  No success there either.  The 
> names used on either side of the fence don't correlate so its a trial and 
> error affair.  In researching the documentation I've found on RedHat's web 
> site, it appears that the megaraid.o modules accepts no options arguments.
> 
> I finally whimped out and installed a 4gb scsi hard drive just to get the 
> OS loaded.  I'll continue trouble shooting from there.  Thanks for your 
> efforts.

If I were in your situation, I would check with the Dell resources for
Linux.  I do not know anything about them other than these links:

http://www.dell.com/linux/
http://domsch.com/linux
http://lists.us.dell.com/

Good luck,
Ryan

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Re: Monitor root or normal user program.

[Ryan Camick]

On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 23:33, Jason Lim wrote:
> Does any one know any program run on Linux can monitor root user or 
> other users activity?

This is the best I can recommend: ttysnoop (0.12d latest revision that I
know of).  It's been a long time since I used it, but it did work for
telnet sessions.

http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=ttysnoop+tar.gz

Good luck,
Ryan

PS - Bcc to Jason to make sure he gets this

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RHL8.0 and Windows 2000 server edition

[Marcio Alejandro Regalado M.]

Hi there.

Can anybody give me instructions on conecting my linux box to a windows 2000 
server edition machine??

Red Hat Newbie

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Re: RHL8.0 and Windows 2000 server edition

[Justin Zygmont]

depends on what type of connectivity you want, samba wight be what you are 
looking for.


On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Marcio Alejandro Regalado M. wrote:

> Hi there.
> 
> Can anybody give me instructions on conecting my linux box to a windows 2000 
> server edition machine??
> 
> Red Hat Newbie
> 
> _
> Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: 
> http://messenger.microsoft.com/es
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Justin Zygmont]

I just tried it, looks neat.  that's a cute name too:)


On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Michael Fratoni wrote:

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> On Sunday 20 October 2002 09:09 am, Petr Soucek wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I have the same opinion. And surprisingly, there *is* new i386
> > kernel for Red Hat Linux:
> > ftp://updates.redhat.com/8.0/en/os/i386/kernel-2.4.18-17.8.0.i386.rpm
> >
> > Unfortunately there is no i386 kernel on the installation disks.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > And now - is anybody able to recommend me how to install Red Hat
> > Linux 8.0 on i486 boxes?
> 
> The RULE projects 'slinky' installer should work for these machines. It's 
> a script that installs a very basic set of packages, but should get the 
> machine up and running. Due to the missing i386 kernel, it is currently 
> installing the kernel-BOOT package. Once the install completes, you can 
> upgrade to the new i386 kernel package. (with a little work, you can do 
> this during the install as well.)
> 
> http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/rule/slinky/slinky-v0.3.1/
> 
> The script installs base packages by default, and allows you to choose 
> several other package groups. Currently, only the network subgroup has 
> been tested. The others, due to changes in the 8.0 release, are likely to 
> have unsatisfied dependencies. (which can be resolved manually.) All the 
> package groups should be tested and updated over the next few days.
> 
> There is a mailing list for the project at:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> If you decide to go this route, we would appreciate install reports and 
> feedback.
> 
> Hope that helps,
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> 
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having problems with rpm from command-line.

[Randall J. Parr]

I've installed RH8 (everything) and I have up2date'd to the most current 
patches.

I am having a problem with rpm hanging when I run it from the command-line.

I run an rpm command, for example, any of the following:



rpm -qa | grep libdvd

rpm -Uvh -vv --test libdvdcss*.rpm >LOG 2>&1

rpm -Uvh -vv --test apt* >LOG 2>&1

rpm -Uvh -vv  LinNeighborhood* >LOG 2>&1



and 2/3 of the time the rpm process hangs, won't respond to a CTR-C or DEL
and I have to issue a "kill -9 " to stop the hung process.

I would figure my rpm db was hosed except that the up2date ran fine and 
1/3 of the time the rpm command runs fine and completes/installs just 
likes its supposed to.

Is this a know problem or misconfiguration?

This, and a few other things, has me very afraid of depending on RH8 at 
this point.

R.Parr

Re: having problems with rpm from command-line.

[Tom Diehl]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Randall J. Parr wrote:

> I've installed RH8 (everything) and I have up2date'd to the most current 
> patches.
> 
> I am having a problem with rpm hanging when I run it from the command-line.
> 
> I run an rpm command, for example, any of the following:
> 
> 
> 
> rpm -qa | grep libdvd
> 
> rpm -Uvh -vv --test libdvdcss*.rpm >LOG 2>&1
> 
> rpm -Uvh -vv --test apt* >LOG 2>&1
> 
> rpm -Uvh -vv  LinNeighborhood* >LOG 2>&1
> 
> 
> 
> and 2/3 of the time the rpm process hangs, won't respond to a CTR-C or DEL
> and I have to issue a "kill -9 " to stop the hung process.
> 
> I would figure my rpm db was hosed except that the up2date ran fine and 
> 1/3 of the time the rpm command runs fine and completes/installs just 
> likes its supposed to.
> 
> Is this a know problem or misconfiguration?

Kinda!! See the rpm list archives for the gory details. Several things
can cause rpm to hang. The most common one is the presence of 
/var/lib/rpm/__db* files. Remove them and run rpm -vv --rebuilddb and that
_should_ fix the problem. The other problem I am suddenly running into is
that rpm transactions such as installing or upgrading rpms on NFS mounted
file systems are failing. Copying the rpms onto the local machine allows 
things to install/upgrade normally. I never had this problem before but it
is sure present now. The NFS problem is on a 7.2 system though so it 
might not be relevant to this discussion.

FYI anytime you abort an rpm installation or upgrade the __db* files will be
left around and should be removed. I have also seen several messages from
Jeff stating not to be too quick to abort an rpm transaction that appears
hung. He stated that if the rpm transaction is still using CPU cycles
it is most likely OK and to be patient. I cannot remember exactly what is
happening but I have seen this apparent hang symptom but the rpm transaction
was still using CPU cycles and eventually completed. If I had not looked
I would have aborted the transaction thinking it was hung.

If the above does not fix your problem suggest you ask on the rpm list. Jeff
Johnson is very good at helping with these types of problems. 

> 
> This, and a few other things, has me very afraid of depending on RH8 at 
> this point.

Modulo some desktop config problems 8.0 is working fine for me.

HTH,

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with good software." -- Bill Gates 1976

We are still waiting 

RE: Psyche - USB joystick question

[Wolfgang Gill]

If my memory serves me correctly the Logitech Wingman Warrior use either the
PS/2 Mouse port or Game Port. (Unless it's a new model I don't know about.
As I also own one)

What I did to get my controller working (MadCatz Panther XL), I simply wrote
a script to modprobe the appropriate drivers as follows:

modprobe joydev
modprobe emu10k1-gp (SBlive/Audigy Game Port)
modprobe YOUR_JOYSTICK_DRIVER_HERE  (As I now use a Panther XL, I put in
the A3D Driver (FPgaming Protocol))

As I'm not at home at the moment, and the Warrior driver name escapes me.
But I'll have a look when I get home.

Hope this will help,

Wolf

|-Original Message-
|From: William W. Austin [mailto:waustin@;speakeasy.net] 
|Sent: Sunday, 20 October 2002 09:25 am
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Psyche - USB joystick question
|
|
|My son (14) wants to play a couple of games on his linux box, 
|a 1.8Ghz Athlon running psyche.
|
|Today he came home with a couple of new games and a new 
|joystick (Logitech WingMan Warrior) which he wants to use to 
|play the games.  We both already RTFM'ed and neither of us can 
|get the joystick (digital) working.
|
|The package joystick-1.2.15-13 is installed and available.  
|Reading the joystick.txt file has not really helped yet (it 
|seems a little out of date since there is no more module 
|joy-logitech.o... so far as we can see).!locate
|
|This machine has the usual built-in game port device and a 
|Soundblaster Live!, and attaching the device to either (and 
|manually loading the joydev and/or warrior and/or adi modules 
|does not help).  So we thought to try the usb connection 
|(works for my camera, and did work for other devices when this 
|machinw was running windoze a few weeks ago). 
|
|In /etc/modules.conf I have 
|> ... (snip)
|> alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
|> ... (snip)
|> alias usb-controller1 usb-uhci
|> ... (snip)
|> alias char-major-15 warror
|
|However, even the command
|
|   jsattach --warrior /dev/usb/(tried *all* of them)
|
|comes back with the response
|
|> jsattach: No such device
|
|If I do an lsmod, I the relevent entries come back:
|> usb-uhci   26188   0  (unused)
|> usbcore77056   1  [snd hid usb-uhci ehci-hcd]
|
|Any suggestions would be appreciated.
|
|Thanks,
|
|
|
|
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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp? (dTd)

[Iain Buchanan]

> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:12:14 -0400
> From: dTd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 20 Oct 2002 21:57:42 -0500
> David Krider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 10:21, dTd wrote:
> sure but that's not what he asked for. He wants to be able to control his ppp
> connection from a lan box with a graphical app. Like a remote kppp, so he can
> bring the connection up and down.
two simple windows scripts (its not technically 'graphical' but you can
set them up to 'point and click'):
1) ssh @ ifup ppp0
2) ssh @ ifdown ppp0
If you really wanted to be tricky, you could amalgamate them into one
script and use a lock file or something...  This assumes you have ssh
set up with key pairs to automatically login without a password.  The
easier way would be on demand dialing, although you can only control the
'hangup' by timeouts, and if you have any background task running which
uses the internet (pop-mail applets, rhn applet etc) your link will be
going up and down, which could get expensive if you pay $ for each call.

Iain Buchanan




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Re: Monitor root or normal user program.

[Iain Buchanan]

> From: Ryan Camick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 21 Oct 2002 00:43:56 -0400
> On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 23:33, Jason Lim wrote:
> > Does any one know any program run on Linux can monitor root user or 
> > other users activity?
'gnome-system-monitor', which replaces gtop from 7.3 (and not so well in
my opinion) so you can install gtop from a 7.3 dist if you want more
functionality.

Iain Buchanan




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Missing gless

[Val W. Harris]

Does anyone know where RedHat moved gless to, or what they intend for
it's replacement?  I'm looking for a pager program that pops up the
file in a new window.

Thanks,

Val
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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[Matthew Melvin]

On 19 Oct 2002 at 8:08pm (+0200), Kent Nyberg wrote:

> Hello!
> I want my linuxbox that connects to the internet with pppd to be able to
> share the connection with my other computer running windows xp.
> I think i can manage to use masq and that stuff to share the connection
> when it is upp and running but i want to make it so that the other
> computer can "tell" my linuxbox to connect (and disconnect).
> Can some one post some information about where to read more about this?
> I have never done this before and have no clue about what to do.
> 
> Have a nice day!
> /Kent.
> 

If I understand correclty you want the linux box to have the modem and the 
ppp link but you want to manually control it from a the windows box?  I'd 
recommend masqdialer...

http://w3.cpwright.com/mserver/

... it's an unmaintained project but I don't imagine it has decreased in 
functionality so it should be fine. :) Unless you're using rh 5.2 though 
you'll prolly have to compile your own packages

http://w3.cpwright.com/mserver/download/RPMS/c-mserver-0.5.5-4.src.rpm

M.

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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[psyche]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Jesse Keating wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 08:12:14 +1000 (EST)
> "Andrew Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> # Size of the 586 kernel on CD1 = 13428206
> # 
> # I'm sure it could have been put on CD2 ... but then ...
> 
> Don't forget about the srpm needed as well, and the i586 bigmem, or i586
> SMP, and on and on and on...

How many Pentium systems _ever_ supported more than 4 Gbytes of RAM? Any?

The src.rpm is already there. For 7.3 RH omitted the i586 kernel which 
annoyed lots. the i586-smp kernel was there. The i586 kernel appeared in 
the updates. 

Re: RPM mess

[psyche]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Marcio Alejandro Regalado M. wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> I have some RPM packages installed in my linyx box that are not being 
> recognized by the package manager (the program similar to gnoRPM) is there 
> any way to fix this problem ???
> 
> i.e. I have AbiWord installed an the package manager says I do not, I try to 
> un-install AbiWord and the system says I haven't AbiWord installed, I try to 
> install a new version of AbiWord and the system says AbiWord is already 
> there and that some RPMs conflict with other older files.
> 
> can anybody help me with this issue???
> 

Do you have correct capitisation when you query the database?

Check thus:
rpm -qa | grep -i abi

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[psyche]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:

> Well - having thought about it a bit more ...
> 
> Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other
> intel RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
> If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
> RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
> then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.

I think this is not true, that code optimised for the 586 may run slowe
on Pentium {II,II,IV} and AMD CPUs.

Correct optimisation relies on knowledge of how the target processor
executes its instructions, and on how the CPU is designed, so that
each of the CPU's major components can be kept busy.

> The argument has been stated before that the majority of performance
> gain is in using the kernel and glibc that matches your processor -
> and that all the rest is more effort than worth the gain.
> However, if they all were already i586 then the effort would be zero
> to anyone installing to have all to be at least i586
> 
> Secondly, there is no such thing as a height measurement that puts
> the lowest pentium above the highest Cyrix 6x86.

I think the 6x86 is an imperfect clone of the Pentium. I don't know what
its imperfections are, but I noticed that motherboard manufacturers
are a bit picky about which ones thay say "works with this board."

 
> I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not there -
> but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for older hardware
> is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes drop support for old
> hardware that was supported in the previous release)

The principal point of the i386 kernel is that it will run on anything. Apparently
that's not so wrt the i586 kernel, even where "compatible" CPUs are used.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[psyche]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Justin Zygmont wrote:

> > 
> > And now - is anybody able to recommend me how to install Red Hat 
> > Linux 8.0 on i486 boxes?
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> 
> try to install it on a newer computer andthen upgrade the kernel to the 
> i386 one, then pop the drive in the 486.  You'll have to play around to 
> tweak it a bit but you should be able to find a way, and then have 8.0 on 
> everything.

Better perhaps to delve into Anaconda and make an updated source for installing
with updated kernel etc.

Or make a tarball you just untar over the systems - I don't know what's appropriate
to your circumstances.

Re: Problem with outgoing packets to port 7. (Security problem?)

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:12:39 -0400, Michael Fratoni wrote:

> > I am only getting these messages because I have outbound packets
> > with destination port 7 blocked. I think I may have been compromised
> > in some way, just because the packets are outbound. They seem to
> > come in groups of 6 at seemingly random intervals and seem to be
> > focused on the following addresses:
> > 216.52.13.9[014] and 209.204.62.150
> >
> > I have a number of questions about how to deal with this issue:
> >
> > 1. How can I find out what program is running to produce this?
> > 2. Is anyone else getting messages like this in their syslog? (You
> > would need your firewall to block appropriately to see this.)
> > 3. Is there any way that I can get access to those packets and see
> > what the message is that they are trying to send?
> 
> It would appear you are not alone. There have been other reports of
> the same behaviour. 209.204.62.150 resolves to razor.pacificnet.net.
> The other addresses don't resolve.
> Searching on google for that returns several hits, the first 2 being
> dead links. Not much info, and no real answer that I saw.
> 
>http://www.google.com/search?q=%22razor.pacificnet.net%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0

http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl

NetRange:   216.52.13.0 - 216.52.13.31
CustName:   Coradiant Inc.
Address:1220 University Drive, Suite 202 Menlo Park CA 94025
Country:US

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Re: evolution font too small

[hans privat]

hi,
I also working with evolution, but in settings the only thing anyone can
do is: you can set your fontstyle, but NOT the fontsize.
The only thing anyone can do is to change the fontsize with the option 
"View--> Textsize --> bigger (or smaller).

AND another bad behavior in evolution :
if I'm writing an email, the fontsize is also very small, and there you
cannot change the fontsize with the option :
"View--> Textsize --> bigger (or smaller)
and the option Format in "writing an email" does have the entry 
format-size, but does have NO effect.

have posted this behavior a few weeks ago directly to ximian, but have
no answer and no reaction yet.

that's my experience with evolution - it is good but some things like
fonts should have a redesign.

thats my 2 cents of ximians evolution.
bye hans

Am Son, 2002-10-20 um 22.38 schrieb Jim Hayward:
> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:17, P wrote:
> > Is there a way to change the font size used in evolution .. everything is 
> > too small for me?
> > 
> 
> People who send HTML e-mails to the list will usually display with fonts
> that need a magnifying glass to read in Evolution.
> 
> >From the menu click View/message display/show e-mail source and you will
> see the cause of the tiny fonts. Just click View/message display/normal
> display to restore you view.
> 
> CTRL+8 will increase the font size
> CTRL+9 will return to the original size
> 
> You can set you font preferences in Setting. 
> 
> The cure is for people to NOT send HTML e-mails.
> 
> Regards,
>   Jim H

Re: RHL8.0 and Windows 2000 server edition

[David Sudjiman]

Define connecting...

I can see that this question should be regarded to SAMBA package, please refer 
to www.samba.org for detail information. You can use your linux box as domain 
client from w2k server

thx

On Monday 21 October 2002 11:46 am, Marcio Alejandro Regalado M. wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> Can anybody give me instructions on conecting my linux box to a windows
> 2000 server edition machine??
>
> Red Hat Newbie
>
> _
> Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger:
> http://messenger.microsoft.com/es

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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 17:56, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure it
> separately for AA. 
> 
> Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
>  
> // TrueType ///
>  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
>  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
>  
No, no, you guys got it wrong - it's using Xft2 so you don't need to
touch unix.js at all, it should just be anti-aliased. The default font
selection is rather... limited though, so you have to go and change it.

Notice that the fonts available will be different from a non-Xft Mozilla
build, and same to that in Gnome's Font Preferences?

For the life of me my great Mozilla Xft seems to be not setting the
application icon on the taskbar/window manager though - can anyone
corroborate?

Regards,

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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Petr Soucek]

On 21 Oct 2002, at 14:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Justin Zygmont wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > And now - is anybody able to recommend me how to install Red Hat 
> > > Linux 8.0 on i486 boxes?
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > 
> > try to install it on a newer computer andthen upgrade the kernel to the 
> > i386 one, then pop the drive in the 486.  You'll have to play around to 
> > tweak it a bit but you should be able to find a way, and then have 8.0 on 
> > everything.
> 
> Better perhaps to delve into Anaconda and make an updated source for installing
> with updated kernel etc.

That was my first idea, but I don't know how to modify anaconda, 
generate all files in RedHat/base/ subdirectory and create boot 
floppy disks. It is somewhere described or do you have any hint?

Regards,


Petr Soucek
Ryston Electronics s.r.o.
Modranska 621/72
CZ-143 00 Praha 4, Czech Republic
tel +420 22527fax +420 225272211 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.ryston.cz

Re: evolution font too small

[Michael Biddulph]

You can try going to:
Start Here > Preferences > extras > HTML Viewer 
You can change font type and sizes here.

Restart Evolution and it will use your new font selections. You will have to 
play with them a bit, some fonts won't display properly.

On my 1024 x 768 screen I have it set at :

Helvetica Cronyx 17 and Courier 20

You will need to have the cyrillic fonts installed to use Cronyx.

Michael Biddulph
Brisbane Australia

On Monday 21 October 2002 5:45 pm, hans privat wrote:
> hi,
> I also working with evolution, but in settings the only thing anyone can
> do is: you can set your fontstyle, but NOT the fontsize.
> The only thing anyone can do is to change the fontsize with the option
> "View--> Textsize --> bigger (or smaller).
>
> AND another bad behavior in evolution :
> if I'm writing an email, the fontsize is also very small, and there you
> cannot change the fontsize with the option :
> "View--> Textsize --> bigger (or smaller)
> and the option Format in "writing an email" does have the entry
> format-size, but does have NO effect.
>
> have posted this behavior a few weeks ago directly to ximian, but have
> no answer and no reaction yet.
>
> that's my experience with evolution - it is good but some things like
> fonts should have a redesign.
>
> thats my 2 cents of ximians evolution.
> bye hans
>
> Am Son, 2002-10-20 um 22.38 schrieb Jim Hayward:
> > On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:17, P wrote:
> > > Is there a way to change the font size used in evolution .. everything
> > > is too small for me?
> >
> > People who send HTML e-mails to the list will usually display with fonts
> > that need a magnifying glass to read in Evolution.
> >
> > >From the menu click View/message display/show e-mail source and you will
> >
> > see the cause of the tiny fonts. Just click View/message display/normal
> > display to restore you view.
> >
> > CTRL+8 will increase the font size
> > CTRL+9 will return to the original size
> >
> > You can set you font preferences in Setting.
> >
> > The cure is for people to NOT send HTML e-mails.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim H

Re: Create Live! Platinum not installed by default

[Ryan Harkin]

Hi Bill,

Thanks for your email and sorry for being so vague.

Now that I have run modprobed emu10k1 and run kudzu (as suggested by Jessie 
Keating), it works OK.  However, before running kudzu, when I run System 
Settings->Soundcard Detection from the Gnome menu, the "Sound Card 
Configuration" dialog pops up and in the entry maked "Module" is said 
"disabled" or something like that.  (Sorry, I'm being vague again!)

Since running kudzu, it says emu10k1.

Here's the output you requested, I hope it means something to you.  I have 
"Plug and Play OS" set in my BIOS which I recently discovered is "bad" by 
reading posts on this list.  However, my main concern was that everything 
worked fine under other OSes and Linuxes but not RedHat until I manually 
intervened.

It seems that the soundcard and network card are sharing an IRQ - and both of 
these devices had to be setup manually.  Coincidence?!?


# /sbin/lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory 
Controller Hub (rev 02)
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at f800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [88] #09 [f104]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 
00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: ee00-efdf
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: eff0-f7ff

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB PCI Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 
[Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: c000-dfff
Memory behind bridge: ed00-edff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: efe0-efef

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 02) (prog-if 80 
[Master])
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
I/O ports at b800 [size=16]

00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) (prog-if 
00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8027
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
I/O ports at b400 [size=32]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 02)
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e800 [size=16]

00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) (prog-if 
00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8027
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
I/O ports at b000 [size=32]

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 DDR] 
(rev 10) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Creative Labs CT6971 GeForce 256 DDR
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
Memory at ee00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Expansion ROM at efff [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0

02:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Lucent Microelectronics FW323 (rev 04) (prog-if 
10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc.: Unknown device 000e
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 9
Memory at ed80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
Subsystem: Creative Labs CT4760 SBLive!
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1

02:0c.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 
07)
Subsystem: Creative Labs Gameport Joystick
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
I/O ports at d400 [disabled] [size=8]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1

02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20)
Subsystem: Netgear FA310TX
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
I/O ports at d000 [size=256]
Memory at ed00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=256K]


On Monday 21 October 2002 04:54, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> 'disables' it? Can you elaborate?
>
> Also, can you post the output of lspci -v?
>
> Bill

Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[Kent Nyberg]

mån 2002-10-21 klockan 08.31 skrev Matthew Melvin:
> On 19 Oct 2002 at 8:08pm (+0200), Kent Nyberg wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> > I want my linuxbox that connects to the internet with pppd to be able to
> > share the connection with my other computer running windows xp.
> > I think i can manage to use masq and that stuff to share the connection
> > when it is upp and running but i want to make it so that the other
> > computer can "tell" my linuxbox to connect (and disconnect).
> > Can some one post some information about where to read more about this?
> > I have never done this before and have no clue about what to do.
> > 
> > Have a nice day!
> > /Kent.
> > 
> 
> If I understand correclty you want the linux box to have the modem and the 
> ppp link but you want to manually control it from a the windows box?  I'd 
> recommend masqdialer...
> 
> http://w3.cpwright.com/mserver/
> 
> ... it's an unmaintained project but I don't imagine it has decreased in 
> functionality so it should be fine. :) Unless you're using rh 5.2 though 
> you'll prolly have to compile your own packages
> 
> http://w3.cpwright.com/mserver/download/RPMS/c-mserver-0.5.5-4.src.rpm
> 
> M.
> 


That is what i want! Thanks alot!

Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Keith Winston]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 22:58, Keith Morse wrote:
> I've been muddling thru the different bios configurations in a effort to 
> identify the resources this card uses.  No success there either.  The 
> names used on either side of the fence don't correlate so its a trial and 
> error affair.  In researching the documentation I've found on RedHat's web 
> site, it appears that the megaraid.o modules accepts no options arguments.
> 
> I finally whimped out and installed a 4gb scsi hard drive just to get the 
> OS loaded.  I'll continue trouble shooting from there.  Thanks for your 
> efforts.

Can you access the controller after you boot by loading megaraid.o?  I
am really interested in the outcome since I plan to convert my 2300 to
Red Hat at some future date.

Best Regards,
Keith
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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:

>> Actually, you're wrong.  The architecture field present in the 
>> RPM filename, and header indicates the "instruction set" in use 
>> by the binaries inside the package.  It means that you need a 
>> machine capable of that instruction set, or higher in order to 
>> install and use the package.
>
>
>
>OK - I've cut it all out so as not to waste bandwidth repeating
>that very useful response - but I'll certainly say that has to be
>the best reply to an e-mail that I have ever received!
>
>Interesting if you take that to the next step - it means that there
>are NO extra useful instruction or optimisations in a 486 or a
>Pentium (586) procesor over a 386 processor i.e. Intel's only
>enhancements from 386 to Pentium (586) was increased processor
>speed and internal performance. Not only that - but there are also
>no instruction optimisations in the 486 and Pentium (586) processors
>over the 386 (OR the compiler developers couldn't be bothered
>implementing them coz the optimisations are not worth the trouble)

Well, there are new instructions in i486, and i586, however most 
of them just are not useful in general purpose code.  They're 
more useful for special purpose code.  I'd have to doublecheck to 
see what if any instructions new to i486 are used at all.  BSWAP 
and CMPXCHG are two new ones that come to mind on i486, but 
again, they're not typically very useful in general code, and I 
don't believe that gcc uses either.  The Pentium only adds 
CMPXCHG8B, and possibly a few others that I don't recall off the 
top of my head as my brain is in Athlon mode lately.  That 
instruction IIRC is an optional one in the instruction set, and 
again isn't generally useful.

BSWAP can be used in a crafty way the instruction wasn't intended
for, in order to provide more 16bit registers available in code,
by swapping the upper and lower portions of a 32bit register thus
making the upper 16bit portion of a 32bit register useable when
not needing 32bit registers in a fragment of code, but where
having more 16bit ones would be beneficial.

For example, using a 16bit integer in AX, then doing a BSWAP and
now AX is in the upper 16bits of EAX, and you can reuse AX, then
BSWAP back when you want to use the other half again.  It's a
trick that was once useful in days gone by, however I'm not sure
how useful it is on any modern processors.  I don't believe gcc
uses this anywhere, and I'm not sure it would be useful if it did
nowadays.  I'll leave that for someone who is more familiar than 
I with the innards of gcc.


>>>I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not
>>>there - but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for
>> 
>> Ultimately it was a disk space decision, as stated previously in 
>> the thread.  The presence of an i386 kernel however would not be 
>> endorsement of "support" for i386/i486 processors.  Our box, and 
>> documentation list the minimum system requirements for support.  
>> Any machines or hardware that do not meet the requirements, while 
>> unsupported, may or may not work, and may or may not have a 
>> kernel to use out of the box.
>
>Yes - well as stated previously - disk space is not an issue - it
>was probably more likely someone was told to not put it on
>(or whoever arranged the CD's contents needs to be fired and replaced)

The availability of some free space on the final ISO images is
not indicative of "free space" being available for the kernel.  
It's much more than disk space being there, it's also procedural, 
and focusing on what is important to get the distribution 
completed and shipped out the door.  

At some point free space was not available, and the decision was
made to remove the i386 kernel to make it up.  That decision 
wasn't made in the 11th hour, but rather likely sometime before 
that, although this is conjecture as I don't recall (or care) 
what the exact specifics were.  They aren't terribly important 
either.

The process of day to day modifying of packages leading up to 
distro release, can add or remove any number of megabytes of 
disk space to the distribution.  It's entirely possible that some 
last minute mission critical change was needed that ended up 
freeing up 10Mb or whatever.  Possibly the removal of MP3 
software or somesuch.  I've no idea, I'm just providing a random 
example to illustrate the point.  In order to cram a kernel on 
there if and when space became available, we'd have to first care 
about the i386 kernel, and have it as a concern to watch out for 
in case some future process before final distribution caused 
space to become available.  At that point in time adding an i386 
kernel would require recompiling the kernel and invalidating any 
QA done on it.  For what?

It's impossible to trace the disk space changes from the point in
time i386 kernel was removed until the final ISO's were shipped,
but disk space was in fact the deciding factor - regardless of
10Mb or whatever being

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Well - having thought about it a bit more ...
>> 
>> Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other
>> intel RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
>> If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
>> RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
>> then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.
>
>I think this is not true, that code optimised for the 586 may run slowe
>on Pentium {II,II,IV} and AMD CPUs.
>
>Correct optimisation relies on knowledge of how the target processor
>executes its instructions, and on how the CPU is designed, so that
>each of the CPU's major components can be kept busy.

Yes that is true, but don't confuse instruction set optimization 
(-march) with instruction ordering (-mcpu).  Optimizing 
instruction ordering for the specific CPU is always a gain for 
that given CPU type, so long as gcc has code to optimize 
instruction scheduling for that CPU, and it works properly.

We optimize instruction scheduling for i686 on all packages 
currently, and have done so for as far back as I can remember 
anyway.. someone else here at Red Hat would have to guess when 
-mcpu was set to something other than i686.

The optimization that people have been debating for ages however, 
is the -march one, "instruction set", and that is the one we 
claim makes either no difference at all, or at best very little 
difference except in very special cases.


>> The argument has been stated before that the majority of performance
>> gain is in using the kernel and glibc that matches your processor -
>> and that all the rest is more effort than worth the gain.
>> However, if they all were already i586 then the effort would be zero
>> to anyone installing to have all to be at least i586
>> 
>> Secondly, there is no such thing as a height measurement that puts
>> the lowest pentium above the highest Cyrix 6x86.
>
>I think the 6x86 is an imperfect clone of the Pentium. I don't know what
>its imperfections are, but I noticed that motherboard manufacturers
>are a bit picky about which ones thay say "works with this board."

The Cyrix CPU's do not implement all of Intels "optional" 
architectural features.  There are some other quirks also.


>> I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not there -
>> but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for older hardware
>> is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes drop support for old
>> hardware that was supported in the previous release)
>
>The principal point of the i386 kernel is that it will run on anything. Apparently
>that's not so wrt the i586 kernel, even where "compatible" CPUs are used.

The i586 kernel will run on anything that we claim to support.  
If a CPU is truely compatible, it should work. If it does not,
then it is very much a bug in the kernel, and should be reported
in bugzilla.


-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Markku Kolkka]

Viestissä Maanantai 21. Lokakuuta 2002 13:18, Mike A. Harris kirjoitti:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:
> >Interesting if you take that to the next step - it means that there
> >are NO extra useful instruction or optimisations in a 486 or a
> >Pentium (586) procesor over a 386 processor (...)
> Well, there are new instructions in i486, and i586, however most
> of them just are not useful in general purpose code. 

The optimizations for i586 aren't related to instruction set, but to 
instruction scheduling. Pentium is a dual-issue superscalar CPU without 
out-of-order execution. This means that the compiler needs to carefully 
arrange the instruction stream to keep both pipelines busy, and sometimes 
even insert NOPs in the instruction stream. This causes code that's optimally 
scheduled for i586 to run slower both on single-pipeline CPUs like i386 and 
i486, and more advanced superscalar CPUs like i686 and Athlon.

-- 
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Petr Soucek wrote:

>Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:32:18 +0200
>From: Petr Soucek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
>Subject: Re: i386 kernel not included?
>
>On 20 Oct 2002, at 11:07, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
>> Where did you find this policy?  I'd be interested in having a
>> look at our publically posted policy if we've got one posted
>> somewhere.  Do you have a URL handy?
>
>here it is:
>
>http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/
>
>states that:
>
>> Important: Red Hat's errata release policy supports the two most
>> recent major product releases. All minor releases in the current
>> product release cycle are supported as is the final release of the
>> prior product release cycle.

Wow.  That is a notoriously ambiguous and confusing statement to
me, and I work here!  ;o)

I'm forwarding the above statement internally to try and have the 
notice expanded to something more concrete and less confusing.

Thanks for pointing this out to me.

Take care,
TTYL

-- 
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OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Michael Fratoni wrote:

>> >The i386 kernel is not there for space reasons (it's pretty hard to
>> >justify 10Mb cd space for an 80386 kernel when that means 10Mb of
>> > other packages need to be removed from the distro, and that for
>> > machines that are below the minimum requirements for a few releases
>> > already) Anyway for the erratum I turned on the i386 build again
>> > since there's no space issue there
>>
>> I just hope nobody uses the i386 kernel, and expects DRI to work.
>
>Hey! That was the argument I used for the 7.3 release while arguing to 
>_include_ an i586 kernel package. ;) 
>Users with i586 machines were forced to use the i386 kernel, only to find 
>out that DRI wasn't included.

Yes, this drove me absolutely nuts.  ;o)  I made absolutely sure 
this time to nag the right people to ensure that all supported 
machines got DRI supported kernel to use, and that the installer 
installed the proper kernel (at least I hope).  In 7.3, the i586 
kernel disappeared and I didn't notice.  Also, anaconda didn't 
install the i586SMP kernel on i586UP systems, as that would have 
been a bit weird to some people, and nobody realized in time that 
some machines would get stuck using an i386 kernel with no DRI.

Just a glitch that managed to fall though the cracks in 7.3, but 
it was fixed in kernel erratum at least, so that was good.

It has been one nasty problem that I keep getting bit by in 
bugzilla though.  ;o)


-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Petr Soucek wrote:

>Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:08:11 +0200
>From: Petr Soucek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
>Subject: Re: i386 kernel not included?
>
>On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 10:48, Mike A. Harris wrote::
>
>> i386 and i486 class hardware hasn't been supported in 
>> Red Hat Linux since Red Hat Linux 7.0 or 6.2 (I don't recall 
>> specifically off the top of my head).  An i386 kernel has been 
>> supplied, but for reasons other than supporting i386.
>
>It seems there is some confusion in Hardware compatibility list, all 
>distributions upto 8.0 were marked as "Compatible" for 80386, 80486 
>and 5x86 processors. For RHL 8.0 I asked maintainer to mark these 
>processors as "Not supported" and he changed it, but all previous 
>releases are still marked as compatible, e.g.:
>http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=3399
>http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=2869
>etc

It is very unfortunate that our hardware compatibility list is 
never up to date.  If I understand correctly, making it 
constantly up to date is a very cumbersome and complicated task.  
;o/

Red Hat Linux 7.1 and up should not have i386 or i486 listed as 
supported, even though the distro will likely install and work ok 
if the machine has enough RAM and has otherwise compatible 
hardware.


-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Don't forget about the srpm needed as well, and the i586 bigmem, or i586
>> SMP, and on and on and on...
>
>How many Pentium systems _ever_ supported more than 4 Gbytes of RAM? Any?

Zero.  The processor feature which allows more than 4Gb of
physical RAM to be present and useable in a machine was first
added to the Intel Pentium Pro processor, and all Intel CPU's
that have been released since.  Hence why bigmem only is
available on i686 class CPU's and higher.


>The src.rpm is already there. For 7.3 RH omitted the i586 kernel
>which annoyed lots. the i586-smp kernel was there. The i586
>kernel appeared in the updates.

It annoyed me for sure.  :o)  I got all the bug reports from 
people with i586/K5/K6/Cyrix CPU's that could no longer get DRI 
to work.  ;o)

My primary test system at the time, was a K6-3 300.  I 
experienced the problem myself first, but not until after it was 
too late.  ;o/

Oh well...  sh*t happens...  ;o)

-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: Compilation of avifile

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, HoytDuff wrote:

>Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:32:22 -0400
>From: HoytDuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Content-Type: text/plain;
>  charset="iso-8859-1"
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
>Subject: Re: Compilation of avifile
>
>On Sunday 20 October 2002 11:13 am, Mike A. Harris scribbled in crayon on a 
>yellow legal pad:
>> I get to see this about 50 times a day.  Quite often, the
>> solution to their problem is in the last 20 lines of error log
>> output.  ;o)
>
>Perhaps what is needed is a brief tutorial on understanding those last 20 
>lines and applying that knowledge to fix the problem.

That would be completely impossible.  The failure point during a 
software build can be absolutely anywhere, and could be caused by 
any one of 10 or more code bugs in the code being compiled.  
It could be caused by incompatibility of library versions a user 
has installed on their system compared to what the given package 
is looking for.  It could be caused by the user not installing 
all of the proper development packages required to build the 
software, or missing header files, missing libraries, or missing 
other applications needed during the compilation of the software.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of problems that could 
occur and cause a software build to fail.  Compiler bugs are one 
of them, but they're much more rare to find than some people 
think.

So it is basically impossible to write a short 
tutorial/guide/howto on fixing all problems that occur during 
software compilation.  Someone could certainly write a guide 
however that covers things in more generalized and abstract 
terms, such as:

1) Make sure to read the README, INSTALLING, and other 
   documentation that comes with the source code you are trying 
   to build, and read it completely before attempting to compile.

2) Make sure your system includes all of the required libraries, 
   and header files the software needs to build properly, and 
   that you hae the proper version of the libraries needed
   installed on your system, as well as the developmental .so's
   for these libraries.

3) Make sure you have a compiler installed, and that the code you 
   are compiling has been tested with that compiler.  All too 
   often, code compiles with one compiler, and not with another 
   one.  Unknowledgeable users tend to blame the problem on the 
   compiler that wont compile the code, rather than finding the 
   real problem.  A typical cause for this, is that the 
   author of the software, did not follow proper official 
   standards such as ISO C99 or ISO C++ 98, and that their code 
   compiled ok on an older compiler which did not adhere to 
   standards, but their code does not compile on newer standards 
   compliant compilers such as gcc 3.2, or gcc 2.96 for example.
   In short: Don't blame the compiler, it is sometimes at fault, 
   but "sometimes" is very very rare.  Look in 100 other places 
   before considering a compiler fault.

   Reference: http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_gcc.html

4) If you get an "Internal Compiler Error" (ICE), you also might 
   conclude that the compiler is buggy, as it has just basically 
   told you that itself.  The most frequent cause of these errors 
   however, surprisingly enough, are buggy hardware rather than 
   real compiler bugs.  The usual culprit is memory which is bad, 
   or has recently gone bad, or overheating 
   CPU/memory/powersupply, or other odd hardware failures.  Users 
   who encounter Internal Compiler Errors, should immediately 
   suspect bad hardware, and test their hardware by using
   "memtest86".  Another test which is helpful to determine if an 
   ICE might be a true compiler bug/problem, is to wipe out the 
   source code you are compiling completely, untar it, and 
   compile it again, saving the output to a logfile.  Repeat this 
   procedure several times using different logfiles.  Examine the 
   logfiles afterward, and if you see that the build has failed 
   in a random spot each time, it is 99.999% chance that your 
   hardware is faulty or malfunctioning.  If it occurs in the 
   exact same spot every single time, and on multiple different 
   machines, then it is more likely a real compiler bug.
 
Well, there are some pointers to help get anyone started who is
interested in turning it into a HOWTO.  ;o)

Hope this helps.

TTYL

-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[David Krider]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 23:12, dTd wrote:

> sure but that's not what he asked for. He wants to be able to control his ppp
> connection from a lan box with a graphical app. Like a remote kppp, so he can
> bring the connection up and down.
> 

Well then his first email was ambiguous. I see that he has responded to
another part of this thread saying that he indeed wanted manual control
of the connection. If you make the modifications I talked about, you
don't NEED to control it; it will all be automatic.

The only problem with it being completely automatic is that he's running
XP behind it. I just saw a web page last week that talked about 18
different ways that XP "phone's home" to Microsoft. (I can't find the
link again though; hints are certainly welcome.) After reading that,
it's my understanding that some features of XP won't work unless the
connection is open. So, with XP, the connection is going to basically
need to be open all the time when he's doing something anyway.

I'm spinning off topic,
dk

-- 
David "Dunkirk" Krider
Acts 17:28, "For in Him we live, and move, and have our being."

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  6:23am  up 1 day,  4:35,  0 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
Linux: Will you use the power for good... or for AWESOME?

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Petr Soucek]

On 21 Oct 2002, at 6:24, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> >I think the 6x86 is an imperfect clone of the Pentium. I don't know what
> >its imperfections are, but I noticed that motherboard manufacturers
> >are a bit picky about which ones thay say "works with this board."
> 
> The Cyrix CPU's do not implement all of Intels "optional" 
> architectural features.  There are some other quirks also.
> 
> 
> >> I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not there -
> >> but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for older hardware
> >> is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes drop support for old
> >> hardware that was supported in the previous release)
> >
> >The principal point of the i386 kernel is that it will run on anything. Apparently
> >that's not so wrt the i586 kernel, even where "compatible" CPUs are used.
> 
> The i586 kernel will run on anything that we claim to support.  
> If a CPU is truely compatible, it should work. If it does not,
> then it is very much a bug in the kernel, and should be reported
> in bugzilla.
> 

Cyrix 6x86 is marked as "compatible" in HCL fo RHL 8.0:

http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=4290

Regards,


Petr Soucek
Ryston Electronics s.r.o.
Modranska 621/72
CZ-143 00 Praha 4, Czech Republic
tel +420 22527fax +420 225272211 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.ryston.cz

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Markku Kolkka wrote:

>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:
>> >Interesting if you take that to the next step - it means that there
>> >are NO extra useful instruction or optimisations in a 486 or a
>> >Pentium (586) procesor over a 386 processor (...)
>> Well, there are new instructions in i486, and i586, however most
>> of them just are not useful in general purpose code. 
>
>The optimizations for i586 aren't related to instruction set, but to 
>instruction scheduling.

It depends on what specific commandline optimization switch
you're refering to though.

The following is more for others, than it is for you, as you 
already know the following (based on your final paragraph).

There are two different gcc commandline options which I've stated
in previous mails on this thread.  -march, and -mcpu.  The latter
option "-mcpu" chooses instruction scheduling, and in Red Hat
Linux, the whole distribution is compiled with i686 instruction
scheduling.  The -march option selects the instruction set,
however in the case of i586, there are no new i586 instructions
used by gcc, so the option isn't very useful.

Note also the following:

If you use:

-march and -mcpu together, you are explicitly instructing the 
compiler to use a specific instruction set, and a specific 
scheduling.

The best code generation for a real Intel i586, would likely be:
-march=i386 -mcpu=i586

If one just specifies "-mcpu=i586" and doesn't specify -march, 
you'll end up with the same result.

If you specify "-march=i586" gcc doesn't use any i586 specific 
instructions anyway, so it doesn't help.  If you don't specify 
-mcpu, but do specify -march, then -mcpu is implied to be the 
same.  So:

-march=i586

is the same as:
-march=i586 -mcpu=i586

And also the same (in reality) as:
-march=i386 -mcpu-i586


So if someone really really wanted to optimize the distribution 
for a real original Intel Pentium processor, rebuilding 
everything with:  "rpmbuild --rebuild --target i586" wouldn't do 
anything really useful at all, however doing:

RPM_OPT_FLAGS='-O2 -march=i386 -mcpu=i586' rpmbuild --rebuild foo.src.rpm

Would generate binaries with i386 compatible instructions, but
optimized specifically for an original Pentium's instruction
scheduling.  This would generate the best code for a Pentium
(other compiler flags notwithstanding), but if ran on an i686
processor, they'd run slower than the existing packages in Red
Hat Linux.

Not really worthwhile to do IMHO, except perhaps as an experiment
by someone who is really interested.  It might be worthwhile to
do it for a handful of packages though.


>Pentium is a dual-issue superscalar CPU without out-of-order
>execution. This means that the compiler needs to carefully
>arrange the instruction stream to keep both pipelines busy, and
>sometimes even insert NOPs in the instruction stream. This
>causes code that's optimally scheduled for i586 to run slower
>both on single-pipeline CPUs like i386 and i486, and more
>advanced superscalar CPUs like i686 and Athlon.

That's correct.  This is the reason why Red Hat Linux is 
currently built with "-march=i386 -mcpu=i686".  We choose to use 
an instruction set which is compatible with all supported CPU 
types, but to optimize the instruction scheduling for the most 
commonly used processor architecture generation, which is i686.

If I had my choice, I'd have it changed to:
-march=i386 -mcpu=athlon

;o)

Only after confirming with our gcc guys that -mcpu=athlon is more 
than a no-op of course.  ;o)

Take care,
TTYL

-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Petr Soucek wrote:

>> >> I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not there -
>> >> but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for older hardware
>> >> is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes drop support for old
>> >> hardware that was supported in the previous release)
>> >
>> >The principal point of the i386 kernel is that it will run on anything. Apparently
>> >that's not so wrt the i586 kernel, even where "compatible" CPUs are used.
>> 
>> The i586 kernel will run on anything that we claim to support.  
>> If a CPU is truely compatible, it should work. If it does not,
>> then it is very much a bug in the kernel, and should be reported
>> in bugzilla.
>
>Cyrix 6x86 is marked as "compatible" in HCL fo RHL 8.0:
>
>http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=4290

To the best of my knowledge, Cyrix 6x86 processors are 
still officially supported, and should work with our kernels.

That being said, I'll defer to Arjan or one of the other kernel 
guys for an official statement of support.

Also note, that while the HCL list is updated fairly often, it is
not always completely accurate.  A few messages back for example, 
someone posted that the HCL says that i386 and i486 processors 
were supported in Red Hat Linux 7.x.  The Red Hat Linux 7.x box 
itself states that a Pentium 166 or higher is required for 7.1 
IIRC, and that a Pentium 200 or higher is required for all 
releases since.  Proof that the HCL list isn't completely 
accurate.

Nonetheless, I do believe it is accurate in this case, unless 
someone else here can clarify our support of Cyrix further.


-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Neal D. Becker]

Note that selecting an athlon kernel does NOT enable the athlon
optimzations!

Re: rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Paul Gear]

Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:
> 
>>Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>In order to try and find where the file was I did an "updatedb; locate
>>>kernel-source", ran "lsof -c up2date | grep kernel" all to no avail.
>>>
>>>The only thing that turned up was the kernel-source.X.hdr.  After the
>>>kernel-source.rpm package displayed 100% downloaded in the up2date window
>>>the kernel-source.X.rpm appeared in /var/spool/up2date.
>>>
>>>So, does anyone know where are these files stored during the download
>>>process?
>>
>>Out of curiosity, why do you want to know?  What difference does it
>>make?  You can't use them until they're complete anyway.
>>
> 
> 
> Two reasons:
> 1. I want to go back to using "up2date-nox" as I'm trying to cut down the 
> number of GUI based tools that I use because this box is _crawling_ along 
> with RH8.0.  I want to be able to monitor how much of the file has 
> downloaded.  When I configure up2date, there's a specific "StorageDir" 
> which is /var/spool/up2date. I'd like to do a "ls -lh /var/spool/up2date".

up2date-nox normally displays the progress for me (at least on 7.3).  I
haven't gotten to upgrading my servers yet.

Have you considered the possibility that up2date doesn't actually store
it anywhere on disk until it's downloaded?

> 2. Curiosity.  I like to know where things are going and how they work.  
> And at this stage I'm upset that "lsof -c up2date" doesn't reveal where 
> the downloaded file is being stored.  I find that deeply disturbing.

Try 'strace up2date' and be prepared to look through a whole bunch of
output.  :-)

PDG

RE: rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Greg Alexander]

I use

up2date -u --nox
everything is saved to /var/spool/up2date by default
last time I checked ver7.1 there was a status bar showing % completed in #'s

Spazm

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:psyche-list-admin@;redhat.com]On Behalf Of Paul Gear
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rpm storage location while up2date downloading


Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:
> 
>>Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>In order to try and find where the file was I did an "updatedb; locate
>>>kernel-source", ran "lsof -c up2date | grep kernel" all to no avail.
>>>
>>>The only thing that turned up was the kernel-source.X.hdr.  After the
>>>kernel-source.rpm package displayed 100% downloaded in the up2date window
>>>the kernel-source.X.rpm appeared in /var/spool/up2date.
>>>
>>>So, does anyone know where are these files stored during the download
>>>process?
>>
>>Out of curiosity, why do you want to know?  What difference does it
>>make?  You can't use them until they're complete anyway.
>>
> 
> 
> Two reasons:
> 1. I want to go back to using "up2date-nox" as I'm trying to cut down the 
> number of GUI based tools that I use because this box is _crawling_ along 
> with RH8.0.  I want to be able to monitor how much of the file has 
> downloaded.  When I configure up2date, there's a specific "StorageDir" 
> which is /var/spool/up2date. I'd like to do a "ls -lh /var/spool/up2date".

up2date-nox normally displays the progress for me (at least on 7.3).  I
haven't gotten to upgrading my servers yet.

Have you considered the possibility that up2date doesn't actually store
it anywhere on disk until it's downloaded?

> 2. Curiosity.  I like to know where things are going and how they work.  
> And at this stage I'm upset that "lsof -c up2date" doesn't reveal where 
> the downloaded file is being stored.  I find that deeply disturbing.

Try 'strace up2date' and be prepared to look through a whole bunch of
output.  :-)

PDG





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Re: Linux VPN Client and a few other semi-newbie questions?

[Alan Peery]

John BouAntoun wrote:


One other point, can anyone point me to a quick HOWTO on how to setp up a client for a windows-served VPN. Most of the docs I've found mention how to setup a Linux VPN Server, but I just want to be able to connect to the office from my home RH8 machine. This would really help convinvce my boss to migrate to Linux.

 

Search the archives.  Someone pointed at a PPTP client just recently.

Alan

grub problems, still

[Dušan Đorđević]

Hi all,

I still have problems with reinstallation of grub. 
Here is my grub.conf:
default=2
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-17.8.0debug)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-17.8.0debug ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi
initrd /initrd-2.4.18-17.8.0debug.img
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-17.8.0)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-17.8.0 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi
initrd /initrd-2.4.18-17.8.0.img
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-14)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi
initrd /initrd-2.4.18-14.img
title DOS
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

When I do grub-install it is installed. But when i reboot machine, grub 
starts, but it doesn't find splash image, so i suppose something is 
wrong. But what ? This config file is made by anaconda during install. 

-- 
Eng. Dusan Djordjevic (RHCE)

Re: Linux VPN Client and a few other semi-newbie questions?

[Tony Nugent]

On Mon Oct 21 2002 at 13:26, Alan Peery wrote:

> John BouAntoun wrote:
> 
> >One other point, can anyone point me to a quick HOWTO on how to
> >setp up a client for a windows-served VPN. Most of the docs I've
> >found mention how to setup a Linux VPN Server, but I just want to
> >be able to connect to the office from my home RH8 machine. This
> >would really help convinvce my boss to migrate to Linux.

> Search the archives.  Someone pointed at a PPTP client just recently.
> 
> Alan

There's one at sourceforge, and freshmeat is also worth a look.
Both the server and the client work just great (especially the
server, I use it a lot for connecting remote windows clients).  Be
sure to grab the src.rpm files and rebuild and install the binaries
for your rh80 box.  (freshrpms might also be worth checking,
pre-built rpms for rh80 may already be available there).

Cheers
Tony

Re: Question about icmp on my firewall.

[Douglas K. Fischer]

At 09:05 PM 10/19/2002, you wrote:

Where do I find the list of icmp types and what they do? I want to
configure my firewall but I need to know what the pros and cons are of
each type.


The answer from a firewall perspective varies according to who you ask. 
Some will say block all ICMP. Others will say allow all ICMP. Most will 
fall in the middle, allowing some types/codes and blocking others. It 
really depends upon your requirements, how cooperative you want to be with 
remote hosts, and your general paranoia level.

Depending upon how in-depth of a discussion you're interested in, I found a 
fantastic document about the good and evil of ICMP, and in fact based much 
of my firewall's ICMP configuration on the information it presented. "ICMP 
Usage in Scanning: The Complete Know-How" by Ofir Arkin 
(http://www.sys-security.com) goes into a good amount of detail about the 
various ICMP types and codes. While the focus of the paper is ultimately on 
the use of ICMP for OS fingerprinting and scanning, it covers the 
legitimate and not-so-legitimate uses of ICMP, and should provide the 
information needed to determine what to allow and what to block, depending 
upon the issues I mentioned above.

Cheers,

Doug




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Multimedia: mpeg and wav files

[John Horne]

Hello,

I'm not a multimedia person myself, but I was given a floppy disk with an
MPEG file and a .wav file on it. (Nothing 'dodgy', just some fun stuff!)
Having installed RH8.0, I thought no problems there must be an mpeg viewer
and a .wav player somewhere in there. I use KDE as my desktop. Well I tried
'kaboodle' and 'noatun' and got completely lost with 'aRts' (?). None of
them could play/show either file. Running 'file' against them shows the mpeg
to actually be a quicktime file, but the wav file starts by saying it is a
RIFF file (I think - apologies, but the files are on my home PC, and this is
from work).

The simple question is what do people use to view MPEG/Quicktime files, and
what do people use to play wav files? As far as I remember kaboodle did
nothing, and noatun simply said it wasn't a wav file (or was of an
unrecognised format). Any suggestions? I could find nothing which appeared
to help on the RH CD's, but then with names like 'kaboodle' it's not exactly
obvious what it does!



Thanks,

John.


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Re: grub problems, still

[Michael Schwendt]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:34:47 +0200, Du¹an Ðorðeviæ wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I still have problems with reinstallation of grub. 
> Here is my grub.conf:
> default=2
> timeout=10
> splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-17.8.0debug)
> root (hd0,2)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-17.8.0debug ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi 
> initrd /initrd-2.4.18-17.8.0debug.img
> title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-17.8.0)
> root (hd0,2)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-17.8.0 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi
> initrd /initrd-2.4.18-17.8.0.img
> title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-14)
> root (hd0,2)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi
> initrd /initrd-2.4.18-14.img
> title DOS
> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> chainloader +1
> 
> When I do grub-install it is installed. But when i reboot machine,
> grub starts, but it doesn't find splash image, so i suppose something
> is wrong. But what ? This config file is made by anaconda during
> install. 

(hd0,2) => /dev/hda3, is that your /boot partition? Does it contain
a file /grub/splash.xpm.gz? Or when it is mounted on /boot, do you
have a file /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz?

Also check "rpm -V grub". Maybe it got corrupted somehow.

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Re: grub problems, still

[Keith Winston]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 08:34, Dušan Đorđević wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I still have problems with reinstallation of grub. 
> Here is my grub.conf:
> default=2
> timeout=10
> splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

My splash image lives in the /boot/grub directory, not in /grub:

splashimage=(hd0,4)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
   ^
Maybe you can check to see where splash.xpm.gz really is on your system.

Best Regards,
Keith
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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Miloslav Trmac]

> That was my first idea, but I don't know how to modify anaconda, 
> generate all files in RedHat/base/ subdirectory and create boot 
> floppy disks. It is somewhere described or do you have any hint?
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Mirek

Help!!! Deleted a partition and now I can't boot my system

[Scott Chaney]

I know this is for RH 7.3 and this is the 8.0 list 
but this is a general linux issue more than a 
straight 7.3 issue.  Also I don't know how many 
people are still following the 7.3 list.  If anybody 
could help me with this I would really appreciate it. 
Thanks in advance.

-- Posted on the 7.3 forum
  
 I hope somebody can help me with this.  I am a 
linux newbie and I have been running 7.3 for a couple 
months but I don't know a lot about what goes on 
behind the scenes.  So to help me understand the 
inner workings I was trying to follow the "linux from 
scratch" (LFS) website, 
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org.  I wanted to keep my 
old setup with 7.3 and build the LFS in a seperate 
partition.  Well this is where things went wrong.  

  I tried to create a new partition on hda but all of 
the space was taken up by the seven hda partitions 
labeled hda(1-7).  So I couldn't just create an hda8 
partition.  But in my infinite wisdom I thought that 
I could delete my hda5 partition to which my /home 
was mounted because it was 23gb and I was only using 
1%.  Now my user files aren't located on this 
partition because they are located on hda2 (I think?)
where the /usr was mounted.  I looked through what 
was on hda5 and all there was some gzip driver files 
for my video card and other misc. nonessential files 
but just in case I moved the files over into the /usr 
area before I deleted the partition.  So once I 
deleted the files my plan was to go in to fdisk and 
delete hda5 and then take that 23gb and create a new 
hda5 with only 10gb and used the other 13gb for my 
new partition for the LFS install.  Well, once I 
deleted the hda5 partition, it said that the changes 
would take affect the next time I booted up.  So 
before I create the smaller hda5 and the new LFS 
partitions, I rebooted the machine.  Big mistake!  
Now I can't even boot up.  When I try to boot up I 
get the following error:

EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly 
filesystem
EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: recovery complete
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) 
failed: 2
Freeing unused kernel memory: 304K freed
Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option 
to kernel

This error means nothing to me other than I really 
screwed something up.  I have tried booting from my 
linux boot disk and I get the same error.  I have 
also tried booting from the installation CDs.  I was 
hoping that I could go through the update procedure 
and get to the partition part and fix this mess.  But 
when it starts to search for hardware it is trying to 
access hda5 and it gives me an error report that its 
run out of space.  I don't know what else to try 
except reinstall 7.3 but I don't want to lose all the 
data I have on my hard drive.  I'm not even sure if 
that will work anyway.  Please help!! Does anyone 
have any ideas? 

Thanks in advance,
Scott

Scott Chaney 
Analytical Mechanics Associates Inc.
(757) 864-8043

Re: Cups & Lpd

[Thom Paine]

On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 18:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Paul Kloves wrote:
> 
> > Yup.  Solved this problem a few minutes ago, actually.  I'm using
> > xinetd, and I found that cups-lpd was enabled.  I disabled it,
> > restarted xinetd, and now I can start lpd.
> 
> I had another report like this, but cups-lpd is shipped disabled so
> I'm not sure what's going on.  Is this an upgrade, or a fresh
> installation?

It is a fresh install. I've never been successful trying to print to a
Lexmark Optra E312 on a Windows 2000 machine here on my lan. I've posted
the question back when I was running 7.3 and received some help, but I
was never able to make it go. The I managed to get it to go as far as
the win2k machine accepting the print job, and the data light flashes on
the printer about half a dozen times, then goes out. The print job fails
to come out. So it's like the printer is aborting the print job.

So now that I've done a fresh install of 8.0, I thought I'd take a stab
at it with cups. I was messing about and now I've got it screwed up
somehow. I did follow the previous thread closely on this, but my
problem didn't seem to be the same.

In a nutshell, I'd just like to be able to print to the laser printer on
that win2k machine. Whether cups or lpd does it, doesn't really matter
to me. One question, after I run redhat-switch-printer, and then I run
redhat-print-config, does the gui screen look the same for both cups and
lpd? Maybe it's not running the cups gui config for me.

Thanks, I'll keep muddling away with this. In the meantime I've set a
lexmark z32 on my desk so I can fix my print manager.

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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Markku Kolkka]

Viestissä Maanantai 21. Lokakuuta 2002 15:09, Neal D. Becker kirjoitti:
> Note that selecting an athlon kernel does NOT enable the athlon
> optimzations!

Right, the kernel gets compiled with -mcpu=i686. The only effect of choosing 
Athlon configuration seems to be to the memory clear/copy routines in 
arch/i386/lib/mmx.c

-- 
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Cups & Lpd

[Pavel Rozenboim]

redhat-config-printer works only for LPRng and shows LPRng printers, no
matter what print system you are using. There is a CUPS configuration
somewhere in Extras menu, or you may just point your browser to
http://localhost:631, after you start cups daemon.

> -Original Message-
> From: Thom Paine [mailto:thom@;ac-services.ca]
> Sent: Mon, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cups & Lpd
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 18:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Paul Kloves wrote:
> > 
> > > Yup.  Solved this problem a few minutes ago, actually.  I'm using
> > > xinetd, and I found that cups-lpd was enabled.  I disabled it,
> > > restarted xinetd, and now I can start lpd.
> > 
> > I had another report like this, but cups-lpd is shipped disabled so
> > I'm not sure what's going on.  Is this an upgrade, or a fresh
> > installation?
> 
> It is a fresh install. I've never been successful trying to print to a
> Lexmark Optra E312 on a Windows 2000 machine here on my lan. 
> I've posted
> the question back when I was running 7.3 and received some help, but I
> was never able to make it go. The I managed to get it to go as far as
> the win2k machine accepting the print job, and the data light 
> flashes on
> the printer about half a dozen times, then goes out. The 
> print job fails
> to come out. So it's like the printer is aborting the print job.
> 
> So now that I've done a fresh install of 8.0, I thought I'd 
> take a stab
> at it with cups. I was messing about and now I've got it screwed up
> somehow. I did follow the previous thread closely on this, but my
> problem didn't seem to be the same.
> 
> In a nutshell, I'd just like to be able to print to the laser 
> printer on
> that win2k machine. Whether cups or lpd does it, doesn't really matter
> to me. One question, after I run redhat-switch-printer, and then I run
> redhat-print-config, does the gui screen look the same for 
> both cups and
> lpd? Maybe it's not running the cups gui config for me.
> 
> Thanks, I'll keep muddling away with this. In the meantime I've set a
> lexmark z32 on my desk so I can fix my print manager.
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: Cups & Lpd

[Tim Waugh]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:59:21AM -0400, Thom Paine wrote:

> One question, after I run redhat-switch-printer, and then I run
> redhat-print-config, does the gui screen look the same for both cups
> and lpd? Maybe it's not running the cups gui config for me.

redhat-config-printer doesn't configure CUPS (yet).

Tim.
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Re: Cups & Lpd

[Thom Paine]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:12, Tim Waugh wrote:

> redhat-config-printer doesn't configure CUPS (yet).

Oh. Heh.

Pavel provided the configuration for cups.

I'll try that and keep you posted.

Thanks,
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password help

[Gregory Malsack]

Hi All,

Some one with nothing better to do hacked into one of my mom & pop
customers FTP server using a program called SucKIT. In case you haven't
heard of this before, I highly recommend looking it up at phrack.org and
learning about it. I've even uploaded the README file if you would like. It
talks about ways to safeguard yourself from this type of attack. Anyways,
can anyone tell me how to change the root password back to what it was? So
we can log in and get things fixed?

Thanks...
Greg


++  SucKIT README File  
  SucKIT v1.3b, (c) 2002 by sd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & devik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  +-+

  Code: by sd, with a lot of help from devik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Concepts: by Silvio Cesare - /dev/kmem, devik - kmalloc & IDT
http://phrack.org/p58/phrack-09
  Tested:   by hundreds of script kiddos around the globe :)
  Targets:  i386-Linux boxen, kernels 2.2.x, 2.4.x without
security patches/modules.
  Downloads:http://sd.g-art.nl/sk

The SucKIT is easy-to-use, Linux-i386 kernel-based rootkit. The code
  stays in memory through /dev/kmem trick, without help of LKM support
  nor System.map or such things. Everything is done on the fly. It can
  hide PIDs, files, tcp/udp/raw sockets, sniff TTYs. Next, it have
  integrated TTY shell access (xor+sha1) which can be invoked through
  any running service on a server. No compiling on target box needed,
  one binary can work on any of 2.2.x & 2.4.x kernels precompiled
(libc-free)

  You could find details about technical background in 'src' directory.

  Compiling
  +---+

To configure parameters (where is your home, which suffix will hide
  files, and of course, access password) must be given before compiling
  by:

  $ make skconfig

Then you could compile the all of stuff by:

  $ make

  You will get a file, probably called 'inst' in current directory.
  It's a script you upload to target box, exec it and then try to remotely
  login to that host using './login' and password you supplied in skconfig.


  FAQ
  +-+

  Q: When I try to load suckit, it will segfault with kernel oops, wtf ?
  A: Fire up gdb and send me a bug report where is problem :)

  Q: How I can login to machine running suckit from my Win95 ?
  A: Dunno, btw, I'm interested in how many people ported
 suckit to cygwin :)

  Q: How I can make suckit to run automatically each reboot of machine ?
  A: The generic way (as the install script does) is to
 rename /sbin/init to /sbin/init, and place sk binary
 instead of /sbin/init, so suckit will get resident imediatelly
 after boot. However, when it will get resident, all of such changes
 will be stealthed ;) If you can't fiddle with /sbin/init, you
 still can place binary to somewhere into
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S##
 or such.

  Q: When I make some pid invisible, it still appears in `ps` and `top`
 listing, what's wrong ?
  A: Filtering out /proc records is only for non-suckit, regular, users.
 That means, it doesn't affect you when your shell is invisible.
 *KEEP IN THE MIND* that suckit doesn't twist informations
 in system for you, it does only for rest of the world :P

  Q: How I can beat rootkits of such kind ?
  A: There is many ways today. You should remove writing ability from
 /dev/kmem (which will might make some lowlevel software angry, Xfree,
 for example) in conjuction with disabling LKM support. Or load some
 anti-lkm LKM (that doesn't work when sk alread installed),
 such as StMichael (yes, this module can beat us :)
 Also note that best thing to do is simple; don't allow kids
 to enter your servers ;p

  Q: I recompiled sk and it loses contact with kernel instance
 running somewhere, what I could do ?
  A: Please! Use ONE binary at the time! Each iteration of skconfig
 will generate unique version which can not be used with any
 later nor further iterations![btw, that will crash at the time anyway]

  Q: Loggin' to machine takes a lot of time, how to speed up this process ?
  A: Ports on given box were filtered, and client is waiting for TCP
 handshake, so you have to specify explicitly destination port, f.e.
 ./login -h your.loved.box.cz -d 80
 dns (53), www(80) ssh(22) is the probably most good choices.

  Q: I want to execute some init script each boot of a box, what I should do
?
  A: Create shell script called '.rc' in your sk home directory. Take into
 account that it will get executed imediately with sk (=init), so
 putting sleep 300 there would be good idea before doing something.

  Q: Where sniffer puts it's logs ?
  A: ~/.sniffer, note that this file *must* be at least 222, coz sniffed
 pids writes to this file with their [e]uid.


  Distribution, future versions and such bullshit
  +-+

As S

Re: Cups & Lpd

[Robert P. J. Day]

On 21 Oct 2002, Thom Paine wrote:

> On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:12, Tim Waugh wrote:
> 
> > redhat-config-printer doesn't configure CUPS (yet).
> 
> Oh. Heh.
> 
> Pavel provided the configuration for cups.
> 
> I'll try that and keep you posted.

well, i'm not sure if tim just didn't want to mention it, but
he pointed me at the rawhide version which *does* support CUPS.
and it's working very nicely so far.  very sweet.

rday

Filand 4D USB/PS2 optical mouse config question

[Stephen Liu]

Hi All Folks,

I just install a Filand 4D Optical Mouse (USB/PS2 convertible).  It is a
4-button mouse plus a center-wheel.  It works including the center-wheel
for scrolling but I could not set-up 2 side-buttons for other
functions.  The driver and software supplied are only for Windows
environment not for Linux.

Any folk has experience in setting up this mouse making 2 side-buttons
to work please share me your experience.

Thanks in advance.

Stephen Liu 

Re: grub problems, still

[Oisin C. Feeley]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-2] Du¹an Ðorðeviæ wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I still have problems with reinstallation of grub. 
> Here is my grub.conf:
> default=2
> timeout=10
> splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

This says that the splash image should be on /dev/hda3.  Is it?

[snip]

> When I do grub-install it is installed. But when i reboot machine, grub 
> starts, but it doesn't find splash image, so i suppose something is 
> wrong. But what ? This config file is made by anaconda during install. 

I suppose other problems could be due to permissions on the splash-image 
file.

Oisin Feeley

How to save a copy of partition table

[Stephen Liu]

Hi All Folks,

How to save a partition table for future reference.  

Not to use "fdisk - l" on Console window to list the partition table. 
Copy and paste the table to a text editor and save it.  Is there another
short cut?

Thanks in advance..

Stephen Liu

Re: RHL8 and windows 2000 server edition

[Marcio Alejandro Regalado M.]

Hi Justin

I don't know almost anythign about LAN so I don't know what do I need, my 
linux box is ready to work on a LAN but I dont know how to connect it to a 
windows server, can you help me ??

Red Hat Newbie

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How to remove all of KDE from the package manager in gnome?

[Kent Nyberg]

How to remove all of KDE from the package manager in gnome?

Re: Help!!! Deleted a partition and now I can't boot my system

[Oisin C. Feeley]

[snip]
>   I tried to create a new partition on hda but all of 
> the space was taken up by the seven hda partitions 
> labeled hda(1-7).  So I couldn't just create an hda8 
> partition.  But in my infinite wisdom I thought that 
> I could delete my hda5 partition to which my /home 
> was mounted because it was 23gb and I was only using 
> 1%.  Now my user files aren't located on this 
> partition because they are located on hda2 (I think?)
> where the /usr was mounted.  I looked through what 

"user files"?  Do you mean personal data or something else?  /usr actually
stands for "unix system resources" or something like that.

> was on hda5 and all there was some gzip driver files 
> for my video card and other misc. nonessential files 
> but just in case I moved the files over into the /usr 
> area before I deleted the partition.  So once I 
> deleted the files my plan was to go in to fdisk and 
> delete hda5 and then take that 23gb and create a new 
> hda5 with only 10gb and used the other 13gb for my 
> new partition for the LFS install.  Well, once I 

sounds logical

> deleted the hda5 partition, it said that the changes 
> would take affect the next time I booted up.  So 
> before I create the smaller hda5 and the new LFS 
> partitions, I rebooted the machine.  Big mistake!  
> Now I can't even boot up.  When I try to boot up I 
> get the following error:
> 
> EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly 
> filesystem
> EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery
> kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
> EXT3-fs: recovery complete
> EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
> pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) 
> failed: 2
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 304K freed
> Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option 
> to kernel
> 
> This error means nothing to me other than I really 
> screwed something up.  I have tried booting from my 

When you deleted the /dev/hda5 all the partition will be renumbered.  So, 
if your boot-loader is expecting to find / at, say, /dev/hda6 then it'll 
be confused.

> linux boot disk and I get the same error.  I have 
> also tried booting from the installation CDs.  I was 

Booting from CD1 and entering rescue mode is the correct procedure.  What 
you need to do then is to "chroot /mnt/sysimage" and then examine the 
contents of /etc/grub.conf or /etc/lilo.conf.  In one of those files there 
will be a specification of where the system's root filesystem is supposed 
to be. You will need to examine the partition table using "fdisk" (type p 
for a printout of the partition table) and guess by the size which one is 
the / filesystem.  Go back and edit /etc/grub.conf with the correct value 
of the / filesystem.

(Actually if you're using grub you can experiment with different /dev/hdX 
values by selecting the entry to boot, pressing "e" to edit, selecting the 
line that says something like "kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdX" and pressing 
"e" to edit it again, then change the value of X, press enter, then press 
"b" to boot.  This can be slightly more efficient in time than the 
previous procedure.  You will still need to edit the /etc/grub.conf to 
make the change permanent after you've determine the correct partition 
though).

 > hoping that I could go through the update procedure 
> and get to the partition part and fix this mess.  But 

Shouldn't need to do that.

> when it starts to search for hardware it is trying to 
> access hda5 and it gives me an error report that its 
> run out of space.  I don't know what else to try 
> except reinstall 7.3 but I don't want to lose all the 
> data I have on my hard drive.  I'm not even sure if 

Should not be necessary.

Good luck,
Oisin Feeley

Error during named restart (bug in named or "service")

[Alessandro Polverini]

Hello,
I noticed a strange behaviour while restarting named.
When it works I get:
---
[root@xxx root]# service named restart
Stopping named:
Starting named:[  OK  ]
---
As you can see the [OK] is missing on the stopping procedure.
But sometimes instead it happens that:
---
[root@xxx root]# service named restart
Stopping named:
named: already running[root@xxx root]#
---
and if I do it again:
---
[root@xxx root]# service named restart
Stopping named: rndc: connect failed: connection refused
   [FAILED]
Starting named:[  OK  ]
---

So what it seems is that the first time the command "thinks" that named
is running, while in reality it's not, and I have to run it again.

That behaviour never showed on redhat 7.2 and 7.3.

Can anybody confirm that?

Thanks,
Alex

Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Keith Morse]

On 21 Oct 2002, Keith Winston wrote:

> Can you access the controller after you boot by loading megaraid.o?  I
> am really interested in the outcome since I plan to convert my 2300 to
> Red Hat at some future date.


Still no.  From a manual "modprobe megaraid":

[root@localhost root]# modprobe megaraid
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o: init_module: 
No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, 
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
  You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o: insmod 
megaraid failed

Adding language after install without reinstalling?

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

Hello,

Is there a way to add languages to Red Hat after installing, without
requiring a reinstall? Thought I should rediscover my heritage and play
around with XCin, and belatedly regretting it when it would not start
complaining of unsupported locale :(

Rather bizarre; some files described in rpm -ql initscripts are actually
missing, yet rpm -V initscripts did not complain.

Which packages are affected by the language selection during
installation? I recall in Debian last time I could just regenerate
glibc's locale support during runtime.

Thanks,

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Re: Multimedia: mpeg and wav files

[H M Kunzmann]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 14:57, John Horne wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not a multimedia person myself, but I was given a floppy disk with an
> MPEG file and a .wav file on it. (Nothing 'dodgy', just some fun stuff!)
> Having installed RH8.0, I thought no problems there must be an mpeg viewer
> and a .wav player somewhere in there. I use KDE as my desktop. Well I tried
> 'kaboodle' and 'noatun' and got completely lost with 'aRts' (?). None of
> them could play/show either file. Running 'file' against them shows the mpeg
> to actually be a quicktime file, but the wav file starts by saying it is a
> RIFF file (I think - apologies, but the files are on my home PC, and this is
> from work).
> 
> The simple question is what do people use to view MPEG/Quicktime files, and
> what do people use to play wav files? As far as I remember kaboodle did
> nothing, and noatun simply said it wasn't a wav file (or was of an
> unrecognised format). Any suggestions? I could find nothing which appeared
> to help on the RH CD's, but then with names like 'kaboodle' it's not exactly
> obvious what it does!
 

I'm not aware of any linux program that can play quicktime files... 

As far as the wav file is concered, you should be able to play it fine
with xmms or noatun or any other player. If the programs tell you it's
not what it should be, consider disk corruption. (You did say it was a
floppy - good chance for corruption.)

Re: password help

[Paul Weber]

Boot from your install cd in rescue mode.  (Enter "linux rescue" when
booting.)

It will/should tell you how to chroot to your root partition.

Run passwd.

exit to reboot.

This will get you running, however you should think seriously about
keeping a compromised system.  There is no telling what the hacker did
while he was logged in as root.  Any hacker worth his black hat will
install a root kit or two and some hidden backdoors as well as other
surprises.

My policy is to immediately format any system that has been hacked.  If
you want to preserve evidence for possible forensic analysis, buy a new
drive and send the compromised one to someone who knows this business. 
I've never worked for a company that wanted to attempt prosecution, we
just wanted to know what happened and how to prevent it in the future.

My $0.02.

-Michael

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/21/02 09:45AM >>>
Hi All,

Some one with nothing better to do hacked into one of my mom &
pop
customers FTP server using a program called SucKIT. In case you
haven't
heard of this before, I highly recommend looking it up at phrack.org
and
learning about it. I've even uploaded the README file if you would
like. It
talks about ways to safeguard yourself from this type of attack.
Anyways,
can anyone tell me how to change the root password back to what it was?
So
we can log in and get things fixed?

Thanks...
Greg


++  SucKIT README File 

  SucKIT v1.3b, (c) 2002 by sd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & devik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  +-+

  Code: by sd, with a lot of help from devik
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Concepts: by Silvio Cesare - /dev/kmem, devik - kmalloc & IDT
http://phrack.org/p58/phrack-09 
  Tested:   by hundreds of script kiddos around the globe :)
  Targets:  i386-Linux boxen, kernels 2.2.x, 2.4.x without
security patches/modules.
  Downloads:http://sd.g-art.nl/sk 

The SucKIT is easy-to-use, Linux-i386 kernel-based rootkit. The
code
  stays in memory through /dev/kmem trick, without help of LKM support
  nor System.map or such things. Everything is done on the fly. It can
  hide PIDs, files, tcp/udp/raw sockets, sniff TTYs. Next, it have
  integrated TTY shell access (xor+sha1) which can be invoked through
  any running service on a server. No compiling on target box needed,
  one binary can work on any of 2.2.x & 2.4.x kernels precompiled
(libc-free)

  You could find details about technical background in 'src'
directory.

  Compiling
  +---+

To configure parameters (where is your home, which suffix will
hide
  files, and of course, access password) must be given before
compiling
  by:

  $ make skconfig

Then you could compile the all of stuff by:

  $ make

  You will get a file, probably called 'inst' in current directory.
  It's a script you upload to target box, exec it and then try to
remotely
  login to that host using './login' and password you supplied in
skconfig.


  FAQ
  +-+

  Q: When I try to load suckit, it will segfault with kernel oops, wtf
?
  A: Fire up gdb and send me a bug report where is problem :)

  Q: How I can login to machine running suckit from my Win95 ?
  A: Dunno, btw, I'm interested in how many people ported
 suckit to cygwin :)

  Q: How I can make suckit to run automatically each reboot of machine
?
  A: The generic way (as the install script does) is to
 rename /sbin/init to /sbin/init, and place sk binary
 instead of /sbin/init, so suckit will get resident imediatelly
 after boot. However, when it will get resident, all of such
changes
 will be stealthed ;) If you can't fiddle with /sbin/init, you
 still can place binary to somewhere into
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S##
 or such.

  Q: When I make some pid invisible, it still appears in `ps` and
`top`
 listing, what's wrong ?
  A: Filtering out /proc records is only for non-suckit, regular,
users.
 That means, it doesn't affect you when your shell is invisible.
 *KEEP IN THE MIND* that suckit doesn't twist informations
 in system for you, it does only for rest of the world :P

  Q: How I can beat rootkits of such kind ?
  A: There is many ways today. You should remove writing ability from
 /dev/kmem (which will might make some lowlevel software angry,
Xfree,
 for example) in conjuction with disabling LKM support. Or load
some
 anti-lkm LKM (that doesn't work when sk alread installed),
 such as StMichael (yes, this module can beat us :)
 Also note that best thing to do is simple; don't allow kids
 to enter your servers ;p

  Q: I recompiled sk and it loses contact with kernel instance
 running somewhere, what I could do ?
  A: Please! Use ONE binary at the time! Each iteration of skconfig
 will generate unique version which can not be used with any
 later nor further iterations![btw, that will crash at the time
anyway]

  Q

Re: NTFS Support?

[Bryan_Anslow]

That works just fine.

If you did not catch it yet, there is a typo in the "Copy the ntfs.o module
into", the from directory you have is -15, should be -14

Thanks,

Bryan.




   

Jim Hayward

  cc: (bcc: Bryan Anslow/AGH/Candle) 

Subject: Re: NTFS Support? 

10/18/2002 12:48   

AM 

Please respond 

to psyche-list 

   





On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 00:31, Joshua Roof wrote:
> Please visit the link below to enable NTFS support.  It took me all of
> 20 minutes the other day and works great.
>
> http://www.getlinuxonline.com/omp/distro/RedHat/ompntfs2.html
>

Actually I have not updated that link. The newest version of that
article is at the link below.

http://linuxexperience.com/tutorials/redhatntfs.php


Regards,
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Re: Error during named restart (bug in named or "service")

[H M Kunzmann]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 17:37, Alessandro Polverini wrote:
> Hello,
> I noticed a strange behaviour while restarting named.
> When it works I get:
> ---
> [root@xxx root]# service named restart
> Stopping named:
> Starting named:[  OK  ]
> ---
> As you can see the [OK] is missing on the stopping procedure.
> But sometimes instead it happens that:
> ---
> [root@xxx root]# service named restart
> Stopping named:
> named: already running[root@xxx root]#
> ---
> and if I do it again:
> ---
> [root@xxx root]# service named restart
> Stopping named: rndc: connect failed: connection refused
>[FAILED]
> Starting named:[  OK  ]
> ---
> 
> So what it seems is that the first time the command "thinks" that named
> is running, while in reality it's not, and I have to run it again.
> 
> That behaviour never showed on redhat 7.2 and 7.3.
> 
> Can anybody confirm that?
> 

Looks to me that named doesn't successfully shutdown by the time that
'service' tries to start it. As soon as the shutdown is completed, the
second call the restart has an error because now ndc is no longer
running. 

Whatever the reason, this shouldn't be happening.
Have you done a "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then the "service named
restart" ?

Re: Adding language after install without reinstalling?

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 16:54, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is there a way to add languages to Red Hat after installing, without
Ah, reinstalling glibc-common and adding the language descriptions
manually into /etc/sysconfig/i18n works. Rather annoying, though -
surely redhat-config-language should cover it?

> 
> Rather bizarre; some files described in rpm -ql initscripts are actually
> missing, yet rpm -V initscripts did not complain.
Still have not figured this out. Red Hat developers? 

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Re: Error during named restart (bug in named or "service")

[Alessandro Polverini]

That's what's logged on /var/log/messages while doing the restart:

Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14010]: shutting down: flushing changes
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14010]: stopping command channel on
127.0.0.1#953
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14010]: no longer listening on 127.0.0.1#53
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14010]: no longer listening on 10.0.0.90#53
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14010]: no longer listening on 10.0.0.1#53
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14007]: exiting
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14185]: starting BIND 9.2.1 -u named
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14185]: using 1 CPU
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: loading configuration from
'/etc/named.conf'
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: no IPv6 interfaces found
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: listening on IPv4 interface lo,
127.0.0.1#53
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0,
10.0.0.90#53
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: listening on IPv4 interface vmnet8,
10.0.0.1#53
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: command channel listening on
127.0.0.1#953
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded
serial 1997022700
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: zone localhost/IN: loaded serial 42
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named[14188]: running
Oct 21 18:30:28 japot named: named startup succeeded

And the "service named restart" output is the usual:

Stopping named:
Starting named:[  OK  ]

Alex

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 18:03, H M Kunzmann wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 17:37, Alessandro Polverini wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I noticed a strange behaviour while restarting named.
> > When it works I get:
> > ---
> > [root@xxx root]# service named restart
> > Stopping named:
> > Starting named:[  OK  ]
> > ---
> > As you can see the [OK] is missing on the stopping procedure.
> > But sometimes instead it happens that:
> > ---
> > [root@xxx root]# service named restart
> > Stopping named:
> > named: already running[root@xxx root]#
> > ---
> > and if I do it again:
> > ---
> > [root@xxx root]# service named restart
> > Stopping named: rndc: connect failed: connection refused
> >[FAILED]
> > Starting named:[  OK  ]
> > ---
> > 
> > So what it seems is that the first time the command "thinks" that named
> > is running, while in reality it's not, and I have to run it again.
> > 
> > That behaviour never showed on redhat 7.2 and 7.3.
> > 
> > Can anybody confirm that?
> > 
> 
> Looks to me that named doesn't successfully shutdown by the time that
> 'service' tries to start it. As soon as the shutdown is completed, the
> second call the restart has an error because now ndc is no longer
> running. 
> 
> Whatever the reason, this shouldn't be happening.
> Have you done a "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then the "service named
> restart" ?
> 
> 
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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[jim]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 20:51, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Hal Burgiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> > If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure it
> > separately for AA. 
> > 
> > Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
> >  
> > // TrueType ///
> >  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
> >  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
According to this link after you are done with this the
fonts you have made available will show up when you go
to the preferences screen.  Never happened for me.
I tried this fix on 7.3 and ended up with X unable to start.
Replacing the original unix.js fixed the problem imediately.
 
I never did get any more fonts available.  
It seems that this file (unix.js) is where the main or start up fonts
are dealt with.  Still unsure here.

Now in the /etc/X11/config/fs/config file per the man page for
xfs is where the catalog is for the font directories.
The man page also states that there is only one catalog and 
there should be more or the capability of more.
Can this list just be added to?
Maybe this is fixed in 8.0?
 
> These don't look right. As I understand, earlier versions could
> use freetype directly, which is what this sort of config would be for;
> what the new patch enables is use of Xft and fontconfig.

RH 7.3 came with xfs (X font server) enabled by default.  In he
configuration file XF86Config-4 in the load modules section as
follows:
# You only need the following two modules if you do not use xfs.
# Load  "freetype"   # TrueType font handler
# Load  "type1" # Adobe Type 1 font handler
So should we be using xfs or xft.  If so what does that do to printing?

I mean if these fonts are changed and or added to does this change
affect printing as well or do other configuration changes have to be
made to get printing to match the font choices.

There was an earlier post on this where the poster made the 
following recommendation.

You can install MS "core fonts for the web" via rpm.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/font-tool/
Install both the cabextract and xf86-corefonts packages, then execute 
/usr/X11R6/bin/core_font_install.sh

The poster asking the question said he downloaded the font packages
and did not execute the script and worked perfect.
The poster making the recommendation responded that it should not
work without the script.
I did both and no difference in either case.

I read another post recommended that you download a list of rpm's
from mozilla:

mozilla-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-chat-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-devel-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-dom-inspector-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-js-debugger-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-mail-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nspr-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nspr-devel-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nss-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nss-devel-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-psm-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm

After doing this one I realized that the xft part of the filename
has a meaning.  I think it likely that this one is only really
going to work if you change the server that you are using.
Even though this is probably easy I have not got my head 
around this one yet.  Interestingly the poster feels his 
problem was solved by this action although I'll bet the
next part of the post was what made the difference for
him.
Quote follows:
I had to change some preferences for mozilla by adding a file:
/home/erwin/.mozilla/default/0xxs.slt/chrome/userChrome.css
according to the instructions in
http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html

In this scenario you can create a custom interface for
mozilla by altering or creating a custom css.
Did this have anything to do with the rpm's added to the
system?  I don't think so as he would have had to change
to the xft server to do this.

I tried other fixes that are out there before I noticed that
the were for earlier realeases.  Yes I'm dumb.

BTW I read the font howto and a bunch of other docs.  I feel that
I may be getting close to understanding this.
Anyone have the real story?



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> 
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Re: Multimedia: mpeg and wav files

[John Weber]

xanim man page claims it supports quicktime.

John

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 06:57, John Horne wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not a multimedia person myself, but I was given a floppy disk with an
> MPEG file and a .wav file on it. (Nothing 'dodgy', just some fun stuff!)
> Having installed RH8.0, I thought no problems there must be an mpeg viewer
> and a .wav player somewhere in there. I use KDE as my desktop. Well I tried
> 'kaboodle' and 'noatun' and got completely lost with 'aRts' (?). None of
> them could play/show either file. Running 'file' against them shows the mpeg
> to actually be a quicktime file, but the wav file starts by saying it is a
> RIFF file (I think - apologies, but the files are on my home PC, and this is
> from work).
> 
> The simple question is what do people use to view MPEG/Quicktime files, and
> what do people use to play wav files? As far as I remember kaboodle did
> nothing, and noatun simply said it wasn't a wav file (or was of an
> unrecognised format). Any suggestions? I could find nothing which appeared
> to help on the RH CD's, but then with names like 'kaboodle' it's not exactly
> obvious what it does!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John.
>
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Re: grub problems, still

[jerry ely]

I have found in the past that grub will install, but not olook for
/boot/grub/grub.conf by default. The problem starts like this: had grub
working great and installed some OS that kills the bootblock or /boot
partition. Next, reinstall boot block or /boot partition, now grub boots but
no menu...

You need to do a 'patched' install where you tell grub the location of the
grub.conf file. I found the help in grub helpful in correcting this, I
forget and need to look it up from time to time.

Hope this helps,
Jerry

- Original Message -
From: "Keith Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: grub problems, still


> On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 08:34, Dušan Đorđević wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I still have problems with reinstallation of grub.
> > Here is my grub.conf:
> > default=2
> > timeout=10
> > splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> My splash image lives in the /boot/grub directory, not in /grub:
>
> splashimage=(hd0,4)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>^
> Maybe you can check to see where splash.xpm.gz really is on your system.
>
> Best Regards,
> Keith
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How to create a PDF printer?

[Gerry Kirk]

OpenOffice provides a definition for a PDF printer. I'd like to use that
definition for creating a global PDF printer or find some other way to
do it.

I tried using the print config tool that comes with RedHat, but it seems
to only handle actual devices.

Is there a way to do this?

Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: Create Live! Platinum not installed by default

[Bill Nottingham]

Ryan Harkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> Here's the output you requested, I hope it means something to you.  I have 
> "Plug and Play OS" set in my BIOS which I recently discovered is "bad" by 
> reading posts on this list.  However, my main concern was that everything 
> worked fine under other OSes and Linuxes but not RedHat until I manually 
> intervened.

Hm, it's possible that due to this, it didn't have an IRQ assigned; that would
be odd, though.

(We don't configure devices that don't have IRQs assigned to them.)

Bill

looking for lyx-user on rh 8.0

[hans privat]

hi,
am looking for lyx-user on rh 8.0, if there are some users.
was looking for an rpm-package especially for rh 8.0, and have found it
on the lyx-homepage, but have seen, that the needed xforms is for RH 6.1
and was also compiled on RH6.1 so my question now is, is there an
xform-package for rh8.0 available or - which would be the best solution
- a complete lyx-package with all the neededd packages included for rh
8.0 available ?

does anyone have a knowledge about ?

thaanks for your helps and ideas
bye hans

Re: editing of web URLs

[Marek]

Michael Stack wrote:

OK, I'm ready to go insane. Every time I attempt to edit a URL in
Mozilla, I get a pop-up window offering to assist me in the editing of
the URL. The focus shifts from the address window of Mozilla over to
this application, forcing me to click off both windows to cancel the
pop-up, then requiring me to delete the URL in the address window a
character at a time. If I attempt to select the entire URL in order to
delete it, I get that infernal pop-up again. I've looked through both
Mozilla and KDE docs (my current window manager), and I've been unable
to find any reference to that "helper" application.

Does anyone know what app is running to try and "help" me w/ the editing
of the Mozilla URLs? More importantly, how do I disable said
application?

Thanks very much in advance.

Michael




Looks like you should disable Klipper.

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Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Keith Winston]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 11:41, Keith Morse wrote:
> Still no.  From a manual "modprobe megaraid":
> 
> [root@localhost root]# modprobe megaraid
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o: init_module: 
> No such device
> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, 
> including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
>   You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o: insmod 
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.o: insmod 
> megaraid failed

Well, that bites.  Maybe it has something to do with the SMP kernel.  My
lowly boxen all have single processors.  Also, I noticed you are using
the new 2.4.18-17 kernel.  Have you tried it with the 2.4.18-14 stock
kernel from RH 8.0?  

If you are in the mood to tinker, maybe you can try booting the single
processor kernel just to see if it can load the megaraid driver.

I really don't have any other ideas to try at this point.

Best Regards,
Keith
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Re: LogWatch 2.6

[Daniel Liston]

Sort of answering my own question (thanks to a hint here), but if you
stay on version 2.6, you need to edit lines 474 and 527, changing the
"reverse" to "sort".  If you have done any modifications already and
the line numbers don't match, it is the only two places in the file
where the work "reverse" appears. It should be fixed in LogWatch 4.0,
but the root cause is in perl 5.8, if I read bugzilla correctly.

Many thanks to Manfred H for doing the bugzilla legwork on this one.
 
And for sending me the link.

Dan Liston

Jason wrote:

I had asked about this earlier.  No one responded.  I don't get any of my
SSH connections listed; still get stunnel and printer connects; but not the
ssh logins.  I would love to know what I need to do to get SSH connections
in the logwatch email again.

Jason

- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Liston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "psyche-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: LogWatch 2.6




After upgrading from Redhat 7.3 to 8.0, my LogWatch report nearly
evaporated.  I used to get nightly reports over 30K in length, but
now they are barely 1K, inlcuding message headers.  I did not see
anything about this in the upgrade comments.  Even though the config
file is set to ALL logging, I am not getting security, ssh, messages,
named, or sendmail reports.  These all appear to be part of the ALL
in the config file.  Have I missed something?

Dan Liston



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Re: editing of web URLs

[Steven P. Ulrick]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:17:24 +0200
Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Stack wrote:
> > OK, I'm ready to go insane. Every time I attempt to edit a URL in
> > Mozilla, I get a pop-up window offering to assist me in the editing
> > of the URL. The focus shifts from the address window of Mozilla over
> > to this application, forcing me to click off both windows to cancel
> > the pop-up, then requiring me to delete the URL in the address
> > window a character at a time. If I attempt to select the entire URL
> > in order to delete it, I get that infernal pop-up again. I've looked
> > through both Mozilla and KDE docs (my current window manager), and
> > I've been unable to find any reference to that "helper" application.
> > 
> > Does anyone know what app is running to try and "help" me w/ the
> > editing of the Mozilla URLs? More importantly, how do I disable said
> > application?
> > 
> > Thanks very much in advance.
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > 

I had the same problem with Red Hat 7.3 :(  But with much dinking
around, I discovered the exact item you need to uncheck after you click
on that little clipboard with the "k" in it, is "Actions Enabled"  I
looked at that many times before I discovered that was the problem.

Steven P. Ulrick

Re: How to save a copy of partition table

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "SL" == Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SL> How to save a partition table for future reference.

"sfdisk --dump" is what I have always used.

 - J<

File Deletion issue

[Russell Johns]

H-

forgive my ignorance, but I'm not understanding whats going wrong here
...
essentially a large file that I own I can't delete...
why do I not have permission to delete this file???

[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chmod 777 rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ ls -l
total 423972
-rwxrwxrwx1 rcj  xcdroast 433717248 Oct 21 10:39 rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chown rcj.rcj rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm -f rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$


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Re: Create Live! Platinum not installed by default

[Ryan Harkin]

Hi Bill,

On Monday 21 October 2002 18:03, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Hm, it's possible that due to this, it didn't have an IRQ assigned; that
> would be odd, though.
>
> (We don't configure devices that don't have IRQs assigned to them.)

Ah, I see.  It did have an IRQ assigned when I produced my output, but I guess 
that it may have been different when I installed RH.

I will probably re-install RH8.0 onto another partition on this machine soon 
(don't ask why!) and I will disable Plug 'n' Play OS before I do it.  I'll 
let you know what happens.  If you would like me to try something else, I'd 
be pleased to.

Thanks,
Ryan.

Re: File Deletion issue

[Tom Eastep]

Russell Johns wrote:

H-

forgive my ignorance, but I'm not understanding whats going wrong here
...
essentially a large file that I own I can't delete...
why do I not have permission to delete this file???

[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chmod 777 rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ ls -l
total 423972
-rwxrwxrwx1 rcj  xcdroast 433717248 Oct 21 10:39 rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chown rcj.rcj rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm -f rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$




In Unix, when you "remove" a regular file, you are removing a link 
(rcj.iso) that refers to the file (remember that files can have multiple 
"hard" links); when the file has no more links remaining, the file itself 
is removed (after all openers of the file have closed it).

Permission to remove a link to a file is determined by the security of the 
directory containing the link ("Archive" in your case). You must have 
write permission to a directory in order to create or remove entries in 
that directory. Additionally, if the "sticky" bit is on in a directory's 
mode (ls -ld  shows "t" as the last character of the 
directory's mode string) then you must be root or must be the owner of the 
file referred to by a link in order to be able to remove the link. /tmp 
often has the sticky bit set to prevent users from being able to unlink 
other users' temporary files.

Hope that helps.

-Tom
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RE: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode ?

[David . Menges]

Here's the final word on this problem I brought up.  I would like to know if
future versions of RH Linux will support APIC, but Red Hat's forums are down
and I don't remember if I asked them during phone calls.

Dell Support says:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:servers@;dell.com
 ] 
Sent: October 21, 2002 11:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AT20021018_007334 RE:
#25##5EH##DellServ#:00026610629 - BIOS #APTX#

...

At present, Red Hat Linux 8.0 has not been validated on any of
our servers; however, it is highly likely that it will be in
the coming months.  

The 2650 does, in fact, support APIC at the hardware level. However,
some OS's, including Red Hat can experience issues with APIC
configuration, and it is therefore recommended to disable APIC
support inside the OS.

Re: File Deletion issue

[Samuel Flory]

Russell Johns wrote:


H-

forgive my ignorance, but I'm not understanding whats going wrong here
...
essentially a large file that I own I can't delete...
why do I not have permission to delete this file???
 


  To delete a file you need write permission in the directory.  Write 
permission to a file simply allows you to modify a file.  Also if this 
directory has the sticky bit set you will need to own the file to delete it.

[sflory@sflory sflory]$ cd test
[sflory@sflory test]$ cat >1
hello
[sflory@sflory test]$ cat 1
hello
[sflory@sflory test]$ chmod 555 .
[sflory@sflory test]$ rm 1
rm: cannot remove `1': Permission denied
[sflory@sflory test]$ cat 1
hello
[sflory@sflory test]$ cat >1
bye
[sflory@sflory test]$ cat 1
bye
[sflory@sflory test]$ chmod 755 .
[sflory@sflory test]$ rm 1

[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chmod 777 rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ ls -l
total 423972
-rwxrwxrwx1 rcj  xcdroast 433717248 Oct 21 10:39 rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chown rcj.rcj rcj.iso
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ rm -f rcj.iso
rm: cannot remove `rcj.iso': Permission denied
[rcj@Merak2 Archive]$


 

Re: Create Live! Platinum not installed by default

[Jesse Keating]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:03:03 -0400
Bill Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

# 
# Hm, it's possible that due to this, it didn't have an IRQ assigned;
# that would be odd, though.
# 
# (We don't configure devices that don't have IRQs assigned to them.)

Mine was set to PNP yes as well, as indicated in my bugzilla report. 
Neither my soundcard or my network card were picked up until I
manually modprobed the modules then ran kudzu.

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Re: File Deletion issue

[Miloslav Trmac]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 11:42:09AM -0600, Russell Johns wrote:
> [rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ ls -l
> total 423972
> -rwxrwxrwx1 rcj  xcdroast 433717248 Oct 21 10:39 rcj.iso
> [rcj@Merak2 Archive]$ chown rcj.rcj rcj.iso
chown u+w .

You need a write right for the directory you are trying to remove the file
from (and you don't need any right on the actual file).
Mirek

Re: How to save a copy of partition table

[Robert P. J. Day]

On 21 Oct 2002, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

> > "SL" == Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> SL> How to save a partition table for future reference.
> 
> "sfdisk --dump" is what I have always used.

# fdisk -l 

will also work.

rday

mail command - sendmail access denied

[John Hosage]

Hi,

In 7.3 I used the mail command to send the results of scripts to my
e-mail address.  Since my 8.0 upgrade, it is no longer working.  I
believe that this is also why I am no longer getting my log reports.  

If I run the mail command in verbose mode, this is what I get (my real
host and domain where changed to myhost.mydomain):

>>> EHLO myhost.mydomain.com
250-myhost.mydomain.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
>>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
550 5.0.0 Access denied
root... Using cached ESMTP connection to localhost.virtc.com. via
relay...
>>> RSET
250 2.0.0 Reset state
>>> MAIL From:<>
550 5.0.0 Access denied
postmaster... Using cached ESMTP connection to localhost.mydomain.com.
via relay...
>>> RSET
250 2.0.0 Reset state
>>> MAIL From:<>
550 5.0.0 Access denied
Closing connection to localhost.virtc.com.
>>> QUIT
221 2.0.0 myhost.mydomain.com closing connection
[

My guess is that the problem is in sendmail, which I have never messed
with before.  My host does not have a DNS entry.  

Can someone point me where to look to get it working?  Or is there a
better mail command to use now?

Thanks,

John

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[jim]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 01:08, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 17:56, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> > If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure it
> > separately for AA. 
> > 
> > Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
> >  
> > // TrueType ///
> >  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
> >  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
> >  
> No, no, you guys got it wrong - it's using Xft2 so you don't need to
> touch unix.js at all, it should just be anti-aliased. The default font
> selection is rather... limited though, so you have to go and change it.
Just a little while ago I put out a rather lengthy email on this.
The link this fellow refers to tell one to do exactly what this says.

Jim Scott

> Notice that the fonts available will be different from a non-Xft Mozilla
> build, and same to that in Gnome's Font Preferences?
> 
> For the life of me my great Mozilla Xft seems to be not setting the
> application icon on the taskbar/window manager though - can anyone
> corroborate?
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: mail command - sendmail access denied

[Jesse Keating]

On 21 Oct 2002 14:18:24 -0400
John Hosage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

# In 7.3 I used the mail command to send the results of scripts to my
# e-mail address.  Since my 8.0 upgrade, it is no longer working.  I
# believe that this is also why I am no longer getting my log reports.
#  
# 
# If I run the mail command in verbose mode, this is what I get (my
# real host and domain where changed to myhost.mydomain):

This is explained in the release notes.  Please read them.

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Re: Compilation of avifile

[Jurgen Kramer]

OK I completely erased my current CVS checkout and did a clean one.
And voila it compiles to the end. Somehow my CVS got corrupted after
many checkouts...

Thanks for all the support!

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 23:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2002 22:25:51 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> 
> > It's problably something with
> > newer/other versions of libtool/make/automake and friends.
> 
> Can't reproduce this with 8.0. CVS checked out, "sh autogen.sh ;
> ./configure ; make" compiles till the end. Any special differences
> to what you use?
> 
> $ rpm -q autoconf automake libtool
> autoconf-2.53-8
> automake-1.6.3-1
> libtool-1.4.2-12
> 

Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Keith Morse]

On 21 Oct 2002, Keith Winston wrote:

> Well, that bites.  Maybe it has something to do with the SMP kernel.  My
> lowly boxen all have single processors.  Also, I noticed you are using
> the new 2.4.18-17 kernel.  Have you tried it with the 2.4.18-14 stock
> kernel from RH 8.0?  

Actually I would assume that smp is not the culprit here only because the 
installer had the same problem.


> If you are in the mood to tinker, maybe you can try booting the single
> processor kernel just to see if it can load the megaraid driver.
> 
> I really don't have any other ideas to try at this point.

Would you contact me off list?