[PLUG] September 2004 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 4th September, 2004,4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

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Hi,
PLUG meeting for September 2004 is scheduled on "Saturday 4th September, 
2004, at 4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research 
(SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Not yet finalised. Please check out there.
Time 4:00 pm
Agenda: Not yet finalised. We may have some technical talk/s. Confirmation 
awaited.
We will also have discussions for an event on 15th September.

Please let me know if anyone wants to give a technical talk.
We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

CDs available: MDK9.X, MDK10, SLACK 9.X, 10 , Knoppix, FreeDUC etc.
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Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] ( OT )M$ Sees Open-Source Threat Looming Ever Larger

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Interesting reading:
Microsoft Sees Open-Source Threat Looming Ever Larger
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1643381,00.asp
http://news.com.com/Microsoft:+Linux+may+mean+price+cuts,+fewer+sales/2100-7344_3-5347325.html
Read the actual filing report here:
http://www.hoovers.com/free/co/secdoc.xhtml?ipage=2976023&doc=1
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[PLUG] O Yes really creating waves.......

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From: Navtej Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] O Yes really creating waves...
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:33:52 +0530
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yeah gytz
its true
O Yes whom we were flaying a day b4 is really onto make waves
dont believe me try downloading it here
http://oyes.thefreebizhost.com/index.php#free
and what u see
almost 2774 people have downloaded it..
congrats for being a proud owner of O yes
Regards
Navtej

This looks like Mandrake to me
The Indlinux or Indictrans projects are far better than this. They have 
proper Indian language support.(not like the hindi names in Roman language 
as shown in the screenshot of O yes)

Probably, this is just a publicity stunt by HCL
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Nice readings for newbies and for use in seminars/awareness etc.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

A. This article gives a brief introduction to Linux, with a sketch of the 
background history

http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/linux-the-big-picture.html
B. New to Linux?
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/newto/index.html
C. Windows-to-Linux roadmap
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-roadmap.html
All the above and more can be accessed by visiting here(which contains some 
other good reading material):

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/newto/index.html
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[PLUG] open source licensing

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Nice reading on open source licensing.
http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/21/0239245
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] October 2004 Meeting rescheduled to Saturday 9th October, 2004,4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Because of the national holiday on 2nd October,  Symbi will be closed on 
that day.

So, PLUG meeting for Oct 2004 is rescheduled to 9th October, 2004,4:00 pm @ 
SICSR.

Usual confirmation mail will be sent accordingly.
regards,
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar
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[PLUG] October 2004 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 9th October, 2004,4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

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WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
THAT THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AGAIN TO OTHERS.
*

Hi,
PLUG meeting for October 2004 is scheduled on "Saturday 9th October, 2004, 
at 4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704. Not yet finalised. Please check out there.
Time 4:00 pm
Agenda: One o four members has started LUG in his college. He will share 
his experiences with us.

Please let me know if anyone wants to give a technical talk.
We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

CDs available: MDK9.X, MDK10, SLACK 9.X, 10 , Knoppix, FreeDUC etc.
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Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] Linux does not detect SATA Hdd pls suggest work around

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 03:28 AM 10/6/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: "sudhanshu kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [PLUG] Linux does not detect SATA Hdd pls suggest work around
Message: 10
hello,
linux 9.0 does not detect SATA HDD. Please anyone could give reason for this ?
And also work around for this
1 option I tried was seting BIOS to legacy mode from enhanced but 
eventually the HDD was not detected .
being a SATA HDD it requires enhanced mode only .
motherboard  intel  865GBF.

any other options and suggestions are invited.
Rgds
Sudhanshu K.
Dear Sudhanshu,
What the hell is Linux 9.0 ???
Have you checked the hardware compatibility list before trying out 
installation?

Mandrake 10 supports SATA and even h/w RAID. The intel server board is also 
supported.

I may sound rude, but at least take some efforts to
A. know the terminologies properly
B. make some efforts to check out the capabilities and requirements of the 
distro which you want to use.
C. know that there is no such thing as linux 9 or linux 10. Clear off this 
misconception of associating Redhat distro as Linux. It is just one of the 
distros amongst so many others ( & probably better )
D. Get associated more with PLUG and/or other LUGs for better understanding 
of free and/or OS software (philosophy or otherwise)

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Articles on GNU philosophy

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 03:28 AM 10/6/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: Devendra Laulkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [PLUG] Articles on GNU philosophy
Message: 9
Hi all,
 I would like to know if anybody has a collection of articles, art,
videos, etc on GNU/OSS movement. Not just written by RMS but by anybody.
 If anybody has such a collection, then please contact me onlist/offlist.
Does Plug have such a CD?
If nobody has such a collection, then I will have to spend some time in my
college and download stuff.
Currently I have a few articles Cathedral and the baazar, The Magic
Cauldron, cybersnare, rigth to read, trusted computing, etc.
-Devendra.
Hi,
You can get articles by Niyam Bhushan on his site www.niyam.com. He is a 
columnist for LFY.

Especially check out "7 steps to s/w samadhi" and "Guerilla warfare"
-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] Internal modem support linux?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 04:20 PM 10/14/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Internal modem support linux?


Hi,
If Turbo linux can support internal modem, is it possible that Mandrake 10 
can
support internal modem?

If so how to proceed?
If not what is the solution for internal modem with Mandrake 10 ?
Thanks in advance
-Manjusha Joshi

Have you tried to install the rpm for this particular modem from turbolinux 
distro on your mandrake system?

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Openoffice startup time

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

hi,
Interesting info/comparison of OO startup time.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~burgie/linux/oo-startup-time.html
Try using the tips given there to improve oo startup time.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Schools, patents and the future of Linux

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Nice reading
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/15/linux_debate/
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Open Office XML Format Will Probably Become an ISO Standard.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
I wish this happens ASAP!!!
Read here:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/09/24/SmartEC
You can also check out other news/articles from google search links here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=openoffice+format+iso+standard&btnG=Search
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Interesting and useful links in this newsletter :Open Source IT Newsletter: October 18, 2004

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarded: (partially edited)
// Sorry for sending such a big listing. Hardly anything to cut off from 
the original mail. //


Open Source IT Newsletter for October 18, 2004
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,clu3,22yk,50v4,c05z
NEW AND NOTEWORTHY
Computer Business Review: Open Source BPM Middleware Competition Emerges
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,8s4g,17y0,50v4,c05z
"Competition is emerging in the open source middleware market after JBoss 
began driving a
business process management engine project, just weeks after the Apache 
Software
Foundation advanced a separate BPM initiative..."

LinuxWorld: McNealy: "Sun Is Not Proprietary, Just As IBM Is Not Bankrupt"
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,a7il,gtw0,50v4,c05z
"If anyone for a moment thinks Scott McNealy is going to take some kind of 
back seat in
the public eye now that Sun has go-to president and COO Jonathan Schwartz 
dealing with
the press and analysts on a seemingly equal footing with his boss, they 
are wrong..."

Libervis: Why Large Corporations Will Disappear, After All...
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,55p2,jkv7,50v4,c05z
"In his article 'Open Source and Post Capitalistic Society,' Daniel 
Orsolic assumes that
the Capitalistic society has come to an end, and why FOSS will eventually 
lead us to a
new kind of society..."

internetnews.com: Rise of the Underdog Browser
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,c9tj,gtag,50v4,c05z
"Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser dominance may be slowly eroding, 
but businesses
are still creating Web sites and applications exclusively for IE users..."

ServerWatch: Enterprise Unix Roundup: Novell Navigates Linux Ice Floe
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,xvh,dolx,50v4,c05z
"We'll admit to a certain fascination with 'new Linux company' stories. 
They're a blend
of straightforward 'change in direction' combined with a hint of courtship..."

eWeek: OpenOffice Looking Better All the Time
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,5h08,5c92,50v4,c05z
"The multiplatform OpenOffice.org offers most of Office's functionality at 
little or no
cost--giving Microsoft ample reason to worry..."

Enterprise Linux IT: Who's Profiting from Open Source?
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,ed07,dr3b,50v4,c05z
"'Vendors will use open source as a competitive weapon, by open-sourcing 
pieces of
technologies for strategic reasons,' David Smith, a vice-president at 
Gartner, told
NewsFactor..."

ZDNet UK: Training 'Gamble' on Linux Begins to Pay Off
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,io1,cz6a,50v4,c05z
"One of the UK's IT training firms is seeing increasing demand for Linux 
courses, but
experts say that there's a lot more going on in other parts of the world..."

SearchWin2000: A Wild, Four-Day Ride From Open Source to Exchange
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,69zh,i2jp,50v4,c05z
"Software platform migrations can be a painful and expensive undertaking..."
SearchEnterpriseLinux: Why Snort, Nessus, OSS Build Secure IT Fortresses, 
Part 1
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,8d0k,kaa4,50v4,c05z
Network architect Todd Sanders wouldn't think of building network security 
and monitoring
applications for businesses without using open source tools.

Minnesota Daily: The Revolution is Coming... Microsoft, et. al, Beware
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,3vfu,bhd4,50v4,c05z
"For you nontechnopunks out there, 'open source' means not only is the 
program free to
the public, but so is its programming source code..." What the--? 
'Technopunks'?

CNET News: Big Blue's Chip Chief Takes Up IP helm
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,d7u8,gsto,50v4,c05z
"IBM is centralizing and elevating its efforts to oversee intellectual 
property matters
such as patents and copyrights, and [John] Kelly will lead the effort..."

National Business Review: Oracle Racking Up Linux Wins
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,8p27,7dt6,50v4,c05z
"About 90% of the new applications business the company is writing in 
Australasia is
running on Linux, he said..."

LinuxPlanet: UserLinux Beta 1: The Precursor to the Next Enterprise Linux 
Distro?
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,7pu6,80xw,50v4,c05z
"Founded and backed by Linux luminary Bruce Perens, part of the UserLinux 
mission is to
repair the economic paradigm of enterprise Linux..."

SearchWin2000: Special Report: Can Windows and Linux Peacefully Co-Exist?
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,7hb4,jja4,50v4,c05z
"The real question now is where IT organizations will ultimately take the 
popular open
source operating system, and whether there's room for both Linux and 
Windows to live
under the same roof..." A series of four articles.

eWeek: Office Alternatives Explore Server-Based Apps
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,16ip,1,b829,4sqz,50v4,c05z
"While Microsoft quietly pursues developing new serv

[PLUG] Red Hat warns of malicious security ‘update’

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Red Hat users (and others too) please read this
http://www.linux.org/news/2004/10/25/0002.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Volunteers needed

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
We need volunteers for some installation/setup activity for a school near 
Pune (about 30 kms- Paud/Pirangut). There will be about 15 PCs ( Pentium 
II/III ) to be installed and networked.

We are likely to install FREEDUC on these PCs. However, you can also 
suggest other distros (please justify the same)

This project is handled  by one of our PLUG members Mr. ANAND KULKARNI ( 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) from another NGO "Sarvangin Vikas Sanstha". Their 
objective is to "motivate computer literacy in the weaker section of the 
society". PLUG is helping them in getting volunteers, equipment. softwares 
etc.

This is the first activity they are starting and we are going to support it.
So, please let us know if anyone wants to help in this project as volnteer 
or by giving equipment ( PCs, LAN cards, cables, switch/Hub etc)

You can send mails OFFLIST to Anand or to me. Or else you can call him on 
9422515760 or to me on 9822063831.

Thanks in advance.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] M$ and linux

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At 02:16 PM 10/27/04 +0530, you wrote:
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Message: 7
I dont know what you mean. But lets face the fact. MS
has 'integrated' IE in the kernel of OS. The IE engine
is used by many s/ws like ms office. IE hangs and the
complete OS hangs. Try opening about 40-50 links in
new ie window and the os gdi resources reaches nadir,
faulting the kernel32 or sometimes the gdi32 dll.
Try to watch a movie cd with has scratches and mplayer
hangs bringing the os down w/ it. (I think red hat 7
or something had similar prob. I remember xmms
hanging, bringing xserver down w/ it. I know that the
os is still runing, but for the desktop user windows
manager is the interface he's interested in and is the
os for him.)
Ofcourse you can end task the programmes and the os
restores, but after a min or so of frustration. So the
best soln is use other s/ws which does not use the ie
engine at all. And if those are free, with less system
space and more efficient, then why not go for it? :)
[snip]
I think this thread is going nowhere related to Linux.
Can we stop further mails on this thread.
Looks like the moderator is a bit lenient this time.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] POP

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 07:33 PM 10/27/04 +0530, you wrote:
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I have a linux 7.2 box. When I try to use outlook express on windows
client to pop all the mails from a user account, it is very slow.
Moreover, it gives time out error for any mail that has any attachment
even in some kb. I have tried to increase the time out also. But invain.
The same outlook express, in same lan n/w, pops up mail from solaris mail
server easily. For some users outlook express is must. So, how this
problem can be solved ?
Regards,
-Sudhanshu
IS THIS A WINDOWS SUPPORT MAILING LIST?
PUTTING A LINE SAYING "I HAVE A LINUX 7.2 BOX" DOES NOT QUALIFY TO WRITE 
ANYTHING FURTHER ON NON-FREE SOFTWARE. ( THERE ITSELF IS A MISTAKE. THERE 
IS NO SUCH THING AS LINUX 7.2 )

DONT WASTE YOURS AND OTHERS TIME AND BANDWIDTH BY WRITING LIKE THIS.
IF OUTLOOK IS MUST FOR SOME OF YOUR USERS ,PLEASE GO AND ASK SUPPORT FROM 
MICROSOFT OR ANY OTHER SUCH GROUPS.

-SUDHANWA
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[PLUG] Volunteers needed

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Further to my earlier mail regarding the volunteers, I am forwarding 
Anand's mail which will give some more idea about the project. Those 
interested can also contact him directly.

Forwarded mail:

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: ANAND KULKARNI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: project details for the PLUG maling list
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Dear Sir,
Thanks for forwarding me emails about volunteers. I
have responded to those emails.
I think most of them have not received the actual
project details. So, I have prepared a detailed
project description. Can you pls. keep it in the PLUG
mailing list?
Kindly refer to the attached .txt file.
waiting for the reply.
regards,
(Anand Kulkarni)
There is a school "Chhatrapati Shivaji Vidyalay" in the Paud village. It 
is around 25km from Kothrud area. There are around 1100 poor students take 
education from 5th to 11th Standard.

The school has already have 12 computers and we have already provided them 
computer furniture for the lab setup. The electric points are ready..only 
we are left with networking and LINUX installation.

For the same, we require:
1) 16 port switch (Rs. 3500/-)
2) 12 LAN cards,  (350*12 = Rs.4200/-)
3) 80 meter cable (10*80 = Rs. 800/-)
The total cost of this will be around Rs. 9000/- (including switch, LAN 
cards, cable etc..)

How you can help us?
1) If you are from hardware and networking background, you can help us in 
actual establishing networking setup.
2) If you are aware about LINUX installation and different LINUX vendors 
like Mandrake, SUSE, RedHAT etc.. you can help in installation
3) Since, the cost will be around Rs.9000/-, if you want to contribute 
something, you are welcome for the same.

We want to execute this activity on coming Saturday / Sunday. It will take 
aroung 5 hrs.

It is important to inform you that this project will provide free computer 
education to 1100 poor students on the LINUX platform.
If you have any further query, feel free to contact.

waiting for the reply.
regards,
(Anand Kulkarni)
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[PLUG] Linux moves into the core

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Nice reading:
http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20041018/market01.shtml
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] GNU Compiler Collection and Java

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Is it true that the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) includes a compiler for 
Java that can produce Windows executable binary programs from Java source 
code?

Read more here:
http://www.networkingsmallbusiness.com/columnists/2004/071904internet.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] More FUD from Ballmer

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 01:32 PM 11/1/04 +0530, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:15 +0530
From: "Arun V. Ravindran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] More FUD from Ballmer


Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vishal Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] More FUD from Ballmer
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- Sumeet Madhukar Moghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ballmer's recent communication, comparing Windows and Linux
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/execmail/
> Any good links for arguments against this? This new/updated "Get the
> Facts" email was broadcast at work here and I only could post the
> "Halloween XI" doc from opensource.org (ESR) and also separately
> mention the "Indemnification" part is handled by some companies
> offering insurance against lawsuits like SCO's.
Fret not. A good rebuttal is in /. Itself
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/28/121201&tid=109&tid=163
&tid=201

You can read response from Novell here:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39171756,00.htm
-sudhanwa

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[PLUG] More FUD from Ballmer

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

And something more from linspire here:
http://linuxtoday.com/it_management/2004102801926INBZLL
At 01:32 PM 11/1/04 +0530, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:15 +0530
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Subject: Re: [PLUG] More FUD from Ballmer

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[PLUG] Interviews: Linus Torvalds: ''Desktop Market has already started''

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Recent interview here : 
http://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=145

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] MDK10.1 official release

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Mandrake 10.1 official is released.
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/products/2516
If someone can download and create CDs in the next 2-3 days, we can male 
them available during the PLUG meeting on coming Saturday

Thanks in advance
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] MDK10.1 official release

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 05:24 PM 11/2/04 +0530, you wrote:
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--- Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mandrake 10.1 official is released.
> http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/products/2516
> If someone can download and create CDs in the next 2-3 days, we can
> male
> them available during the PLUG meeting on coming Saturday
The free 'Download' edition (public access) should come out (to mirrors
etc) after around Nov 18-20. (the article mentions 3 weeks waiting period)

We have people on the list who are members of MandrakeClub. They do have 
immediate access to the CD images currently available only to the members. 
You have correctly said that the ISO images will be available openly to all 
after some days.

I talked to some people today and it is very much likely that we will get 
"MDK10.1 official" ready with us in next 2-3 days.

Most likely, I will be asking for booking in the  meeting confirmation mail.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] November 2004 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 6th November, 2004,4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

*
WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
THAT THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AGAIN TO OTHERS.
*

Hi,
PLUG meeting for November 2004 is scheduled on "Saturday 6th November, 
2004, at 4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research 
(SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704. Not yet finalised. Please check out there.
Time 4:00 pm
Agenda: Not yet finalised.
Please let me know if anyone wants to give a technical talk.
We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

MDK10.1 CDs are not yet ready with us. We will accept booking for the same 
at the meeting.

CDs available: MDK9.X, MDK10, SLACK 9.X, 10 , Knoppix, FreeDUC etc.
Mousepads are also available.
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WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
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You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] Mandrake 10.1 official and VigyaanCD

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 06:18 PM 11/19/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: Sumeet Madhukar Moghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Any Gentoo users out there?
Message: 3
I have been keen to try out something new on my notebook, which has been
running Slackware, since the time of Adam. I thought Gentoo would be the
dont_try_this_at_home kinda distro that I am trying to look at. Are there any
Gentoo users out there? If yes, then does anyone have the latest Gentoo2004.3
discs with precompiled packages for x86/athlonXP... Also has someone already
laid hands on Mandrake 10.1 Official? I remember Sudhanwa saying that there
are quite a few Mandrake Club members on the list. Has the PLUG recieved a
copy as yet?
--
/Sumeet

Hi,
Finally, after a lot of jugglery, we could get MDK10.1 official. Right now 
first 2 CDs are ready and remaining will be available in a few days. I 
tested it from the 2 CDs.

The installation is a typical Mandrake installation which is very simple 
and neat. The messages shown during the installation are also nice and 
improved compared to earlier versions.

Blue tooth and other things required typically for Laptops are built in 
supported.

MCC has some changes but for good.
Samba is amazingly fast.
It has got KDE3.2 and gnome 2.6. Optionally, on CD4, KDE3.3 is also available.
Best part is OO1.1.3 which is pretty fast while starting and even later on 
while opening new/existing files. It gives some more nice user friendly 
options like " use native OO file formats or MSOffice file formats" etc.

The desktop resolution changing tool is also very nice and handy. I could 
easily switch between 1920 X 1440 to 640X480. btw, the Xserver is from X.org.

In general, MDK10.1 official works well, nice and clean.
Worth switching over to it.
And dont miss the Super Tux game in the distro. :-)
For general overview about installation and other tips visit here: 
http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/review101.html


We also have a nice Live CD "VigyaanCD". (www.vigyaancd.org)
Amazing distro for BIO-chemical people. Being a knoppix based distro, it 
works well off the CD itself. The applications are also nice looking(I cant 
understand a single thing from BIO/Chem :-( )

Worth trying this CD.
Vigyaancd is currently available with us. MDK10.1 official will take a few 
more days to be available. Please wait till that time.

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Live CD for engineering students

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
For the last few days/weeks, in our real-life informal katta meetings, we 
are talking about creating a live CD specifically for engineering college 
students. Manas was giving names of lots of softwares which are very useful 
for the students.(and they work better than their windows equivalents)

Can we take up this project of making a live CD for engineering students?
We can make a Special Interest group for this purpose.
currently, most of the engineering students will be busy in their exams but 
most of the fresh  engineers can help in this.

At least , to start off, we can make a list of free/OS softwares for 
electrical/electronics/telecom students. this list can include softwares 
for Matlab equivalents, PCB designing, Fourier analysis, DSP applications, 
circuit analysis etc.

Any takers?
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] VigyaanCD

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Do we have anyone with BIO/Chemical background to give demo of VigyaanCD?
I had sent mail to one of my friends in NCL who forwarded it to many others.
The response from them is encouraging.
We will be reaching to other non-computing areas with this CD.
Volunteers, please contact me offlist. We are likely to have a demo @NCL 
within a few days.

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] UNESCO Free Software Portal

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
The UNESCO Free Software Portal gives access to documents and websites 
which are references for the Free Software/Open Source Technology movement. 
It is also a gateway to resources related to Free Software.

Read here:
http://portal.unesco.org/ci/en/ev.php-URL_ID=12034&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Monthly meetings

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 11:30 PM 11/22/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: Devendra Laulkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:19:36 +0530
Subject: [PLUG] Monthly meetings
Message: 2
Hi all,
  An idea to make the monthly meetings more effective.
Someone should present a small( < 15-20 mins) presentation/demo of any
software (Eg. Gaim, Kontact, Mozilla, K3b, etc etc any free software for that
matter)
Basically the presentation should concentrate on installation and the use of
software.
More importantly, distribute the software in the form of binaries, sources
with Documentation to the people on the spot after the meeting. People can
come with their own CD, CD-RW or USB drives.
Additional resources required for this are a CD writer at the PLUG meeting,
enthusiastic people wanting to share knowledge about software and a
coordinator.
I will be happy to volunteer for this kind of effort.
--
http://dengineer.blogspot.com
Hi,
As said by Shridhar and others, we do arrange some techie 
talks/demo/presentations in the plug meetings. Please check out the events 
page on PLUG website to get some idea.

Every time when I send meeting confirmation mail, I mention about the same 
thing- if anyone wants to talk- Somehow nobody responds to this. Just a few 
times people responded positively but never turned up at the meeting. :-(

About your other suggestion of CD-writing on the spot; I dont think it is 
worth it. People may come up with different requirements and we may not be 
able to get bandwidth to download the stuff online and burn the CDs 
immediately.

We can probably announce to send requirements beforehand and burn the CDs 
accordingly and get them to the meetings.

Well, again if those people don't turn up, your efforts are wasted :-(
PLUG appreciates and encourages your willingness for CD writing. That is a 
regular and unending task we have.

If you and others can volunteer for CD writing, we are willing to give you 
that job.

Volunteers, please remember that responsibility and accountability go 
together. If you take up that properly , authority will come to you 
automatically.

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Novell Linux Desktop 9. (CD Distribution.)

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 02:26 AM 11/30/04 +0530, you wrote:
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:04:43 +0530
From: Sumeet Madhukar Moghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novell Linux Desktop 9. (CD Distribution.) - Re: [PLUG] Monthly
meetings.
In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 00:31, Kapil D. Pendse wrote:
> Oh so they developed something else than YaST as a configuration tool!
> Logically, it should then be better than YaST! In that case, that's a great
> news! YaST itself is such a good tool, what can be better than that?!
Red Carpet is not a replacement for YaST. It just happens to be a software
update tool from Ximian Desktop. YaST is still a part of Novell Linux Desktop
9 and is available from the Administrator Settings.
BTW, NLD 9 isnt really an enthusiast's distro. It is more of a corporate
desktop, much like RHL Desktop. It is much thinner on packages than Suse9.2
which itself is pretty thin on apps in the absence of regulars like Quanta+,
kuickshow, XFCE, mplayer etc... Also, the licensing is something that I need
to read about, since it ships with some commercial apps like the Citrix ICA
Client. The per seat licensing cost, I believe is $50.00. The PLUG can
possibly get someone from Onward Novell to demonstrate NLD 9, but I doubt
whether distribution would be possible, though I am still to refer to the
licensing docs..
Yes the PLUG can distribute Suse9.2 Pro discs since there are absolutely no
licensing issues involved.
> Cheers,
> Kapil
--
/Sumeet

Red carpet is from Ximian and YAST is from SUSE. These companies were taken 
over by Novell.

Both the products have absolutely different functionality.
Regarding copying of SUSE CDs, if anyone can give us some authoritative 
information about copying and redistributing of SUSE and/or other Novell 
products (-probably with some URLS from the website), we will be able to 
distribute them.

Same thing for Red Hat Products.
We dont want to go into problems on licensing/distribution and Trade Marks 
and IPR issues.

Meanwhile people can go to the free software CDs page on the plug 
website(currently in updation stage) and add your inputs if you have any 
other CDs which ar enot mentioned in the list.

-Sudhanwa Jogalekar

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[PLUG] (OT) SCO website was hacked

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Read more here :
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/11/29/sco_own_all_your_code.html
"We own all your code"
"Pay us all your money"
!!Interesting!!!
May be this is some reaction to the recent news and legal matters.
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[PLUG] Useful tools

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Check this out
http://www.unixreview.com/tool/
Popsneaker seems to be very useful to get rid of spam/unwanted mais.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] December 2004 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 4th December, 2004,4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

*
WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
THAT THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AGAIN TO OTHERS.
*

Hi,
PLUG meeting for December 2004 is scheduled on "Saturday 4th December, 
2004, at 4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research 
(SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704.(7th floor). Not yet finalised. Please check out 
there.
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda:
A. Mr. Jacob Abraham from Partecs Participatory Technologies (www. 
partecs.com) will be giving a talk/presentation on Zope and Plone. This 
will be an introductory talk.

B. Techie Talk by Devendra Laulkar. Subject not yet confirmed.
C. Discussion on participation in upcoming events like CMDA exhibition, 
GNUNIFY.

We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.
MDK10.1 CDs are ready with us(3 CDs. 4th one should be available within 2-3 
days.

CDs available: MDK9.X, MDK10, SLACK 9.X, 10 , Knoppix, FreeDUC etc. Check 
out plug website for details.

*
WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
THAT THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AGAIN TO OTHERS.
*

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] Speakers @ linux-bangalore 2004

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
These PLUGGIES are speakers @ Linux-Bangalore 2004.
Read more here:
Aditya Godbole: 
http://linux-bangalore.org/2004/schedules/talkdetails2.php?talkcode=F1100032

Patanjali: 
http://linux-bangalore.org/2004/schedules/talkdetails2.php?talkcode=F0200032

Karunakar: 
http://linux-bangalore.org/2004/schedules/talkdetails2.php?talkcode=C0200012

and some other friends:
Niyam Bhushan: 
http://linux-bangalore.org/2004/schedules/talkdetails2.php?talkcode=D1100022

Amit Bhor: 
http://linux-bangalore.org/2004/schedules/talkdetails2.php?talkcode=B0330012

I hope I haven't missed any other guys.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Gentoo and FreeBSD

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 08:41 PM 12/2/04 +0530, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:18:54 +0530
From: Devendra Laulkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Gentoo and FreeBSD
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi,
 I want the above two distributions. They are not listed on the Plug
website. Does Plug have the CD's. Also can somebody get the latest version of
FreeBSD?
-Devendra.

OK. your request is booked.
You will get Gentoo CDs and FreeBSD CDs.( I think freeBSD is available from 
some magazine DVD. I will burn it for you.)

We have openBSD, GNU/HURD also.
Webmaster ,please update the CDs page.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] December 2004 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 4th December, 2004, 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 08:41 PM 12/2/04 +0530, you wrote:
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 17:16:31 +0530
From: Sumeet Madhukar Moghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] December 2004 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 4th December,
2004, 4:00 pm @ SICSR
In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Navneet Karnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 12:40, Navneet Karnani wrote:
> > Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at
> > the meeting.
> > MDK10.1 CDs are ready with us(3 CDs. 4th one should be available within
> > 2-3 days.
>
> How do we book the CDs ?  I would want to have one copy of all the MDK
> 10.1 Official CDs. When and where should i collect them ?
If you want I can bring the 4th CD to the meet and you could copy it 
there. If
there is a CD-Writer available.

BTW, I wanted to demonstrate a package called emovix, that might excite a few
desktop users. Would there be a computer with a CD-Writer available at the
meet?
--
/Sumeet
Sumeet,
If you can give 4th CD on Friday, we can make copies of it and give it in 
the distro alongwith the other 3 CDs.

CD drive will be available. CD writer , not very sure. Deendra is getting 
one for the meeting.

Lets try to accommodate emovix demo too.
-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] PLUG Meeting Dec 2004

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarded mails from the speakers about their brief profile: Jacob and 
Gurpreet from Partec

Jacob Abraham:
Looking forward to meeting you. Partecs would like to thank you for inviting
us to make a presentation on Partecs, Zope and Python. Since we have not 
met let
me introduce myself. I am an Engineering graduate in the field of Industrial
Engineering and Management. Completed the same in M.S. Ramaiah Institute of
Technology, Bangalore. As a programming enthusiast I have been working with
Python, Zope and Plone for the last 2 year. Currently I am employed as a Zope
Developer in Partecs.


G[N]Urpreet Singh:
Hello sir, heres a lil bit about me.
--
Gurpreet is a Engineering graduate from Shivaji University, Kolhapur
and is pursuing his Masters in Information Technology from Symbiosis
Centre for Information Technology.  He is also working as a Senior
Business Analyst at Partecs - Participatory Technologies India.
Gurpreet got involved with the Free Software Movement through the
Mumbai GNU/Linux Users' Group and has organised and spoken at a few
conferences. He is an avid GNU/Linux enthusiast and believes in
spreading the message far and wide which he does whenever given a
chance.
--
Devendra has been to our meetings earlier. He is from MIT college and 
actively involved in LUG activity in his college.

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] (OT)End of an era?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

hi,
IBM, the pioneer of the personal computer business, has sold its PC 
hardware division to China's number one computer maker Lenovo.

Read more here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4077579.stm
Lets see what will be IBMs strategy for desktops now. Till now, they were 
promoting Linux on desktops and laptops.

It will be interesting to see other companies/asociates's reaction.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Live CD for engineering students

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
In continuation to my earlier mail with the same subject, here are some 
updates.

Manas and others have actively started working on this project.
People are finalising the list of packages/products to be included.
Also, some basic documentation is being prepared.
All interested should contact Manas Alekar ( manas_alekar at sify dot com ) 
for participation.

Manas contact details available here: http://www.adotout.net/manas/
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Convert FC 3 DVD to CD

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 11:40 PM 12/15/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: Aditya Laghate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Convert FC 3 DVD to CD
Hi
I wanted to convert the DVD of FC 3, which recently came with LFY to CD's.
Is there any utility or manually copy files on to the CD and edit
trans.tbl file?
Regards
Aditya Laghate
Hi,
Instead of the DVD from a magazine, you could have got the CDs from PLUG. 
We do have FC3 CDs with us. Anyone interested, please contact me or Dexter.

-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] (OT) Google suggest

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Have you tried google suggest (currently in beta). Many people probably 
have tried it already.

check it out here :
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
just type in character by character for search and see how it autocompletes 
and shows the no of pages available.

And this is a list of all the services offered by google.
http://www.google.co.in/options/index.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Broadband @ Rs 500 from Jan 15

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Broadband @ Rs 500 from Jan 15.
check this out.
http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/dec/17broadband.htm
It may take some more time to actually start in Pune. I think they are 
registering people already.

/me rethinks about finalising on new connection :-)
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] tldp.org down?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 11:40 PM 12/15/04 +0530, you wrote:
From: Swapnil Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] tldp.org down?
I'm trying to connect with tldp.org since half hour, but it's just not 
working! Was it scheduled to be down or anything? Any such news? Maintenance
Works for me. You can try these mirrors :
http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/LDP/
http://www.iitk.ac.in/LDP/
--Swapnil
Hi,
We do have single file of all the docs on tldp.org. We do give this to the 
students of awareness course alongwith Openoffice for Linux as well as windows.

If anyone wants this CD, please contact me or Dexter.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] linux-on-laptops

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

For getting answers on most of the questions about Linux on Laptops, check 
this out:

http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] CentOS: Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Minus Red Hat

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Interesting stuff this is:
taken from Open Source IT Newsletter: December 27, 2004

LinuxPlanet: CentOS: Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Minus Red Hat
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,1azf,1,2itu,3cnd,50v4,c05z
"Users who want Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS3 without actually paying money 
for it have a
number of options, including downloading and compiling or outright 
stealing (not
recommended). Or you can find a free distribution that has put all the 
packages together
for you. Such is CentOS..."
-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] (OT) (Commercial) Workshop on Patents

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
I am forwarding a mail from our friend Girish Nadkarni. He is associated 
with PLUG for some years now. In fact, he donated some books to PLUG when 
he was in WROX Publications.

They are conducting a workshop in Pune on patents. (check out the URL in 
his mail)

In the new IPR, software Patents regime, this workshop could be useful to 
companies, software developers and others too.

For more details, contact him directly,
Best Regards,
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Forwarded mail:

Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:31:23 +0530
From: Girish Nadkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Workshop on Patents

Sudhanwa,
We have announced series of our workshop on patenting in India and Abroad 
starting from Pune.

I reckon some of PLUG members may be interested to attend this workshop 
either in their personal capacity or on behalf of their organisation.

One can get all the information on our site, URL of which i am forwarding 
you for necessary action.

Cheers,
Girish Nadkarni
Director
Peer Technical Services Pvt.Ltd.
98202 94348
<http://www.peertechnical.net/peer-brochure.pdf>http://www.peertechnical.net/peer-brochure.pdf
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[PLUG] JOB Posting

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarded:
Please contact Dilip vaze (diplips2000 at yahoo.com) for further details
-Sudhanwa
  This refers our telecon regarding the requirement of a person who can 
work on a
project based on Linux. I think following is my need. Further after talking 
to the
concerned / interested person this can be confirmed.
 About the person:
1 : The person should be thorough in Linux & should know how to  write 
drivers and
work on Serial protocol. Additional knowledge of different protocols will help.
2:  Knowledge of working on MS access database or equivalent.
4 : Knowledge of TCL/TK
5 : Additionally if  he has a knowledge of Visual basic will be an added 
advantage.
6  Should be ready to work at my place -part time or full time.
7 : Mutually Agreed amount  will be paid after completion of the targeted 
achievement .

 About the project: I want to develop a SCADA type of application on an 
embedded
hardware or a PDA.

 Please let me know if some one is available or known to you or is a 
member of your
group.

Pl send me a mail or  My contact no is 9822026001
Regards,
-dilip vaze
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[PLUG] January 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 8th January 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Wish you all a Very Happy New Year!!!
*
WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
THAT THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AGAIN TO OTHERS.
*

Hi,
PLUG meeting for January 2005 is scheduled on "Saturday 8th January 2005, 
at 4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704.(7th floor). Not yet finalised. Please check out 
there.
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda:
A. Talk by Devendra Laulkar on ddd.
B. Demo of Knoppix Games CD
C. Demo of our own CD for Engineering Students. This is currently in the 
testing phase. Your comments/suggestions will be appreciated.

D. Discussions of participation in the forthcoming events.
We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Apart from the list of CDs given on the website, we have other CDs too. 
Debain Sarge (14 CDs), UBUNTU (1 CD ), Gentoo (2 CDs- live CD + other), 
Morphix Gamer etc.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

MDK10.1 CDs are ready with us now (4 CD set)
CDs available: MDK9.X, MDK10, SLACK 9.X, 10 , Knoppix, FreeDUC etc. Check 
out plug website for details.

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WHOEVER IS HAVING PLUG OWNED BOOKS, CDs PLEASE GET THEM AT THE MEETING SO 
THAT THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AGAIN TO OTHERS.
*

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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Re: [PLUG] Debian Sarge 15 ISOs available

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Karunakar,
Got your mail about debian. have you seen Pranav's mail about the 2nd cd 
bad? What you want me to do? copy a set for you or not?

-Sudhanwa

At 07:31 PM 1/5/05 -0500, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:26:32 +0530
Kaustubh Gadkari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "sarge".
> >
> It's a slightly old snapshot of sarge. I guess it has the first 8-9
> cd's. I have the 25th December snapshot. The packages are newer. For
> eg, the PCQ dvd has Firefox 0.9, Thunderbird 0.8 and Evolution
> 1.4.3. The set I have has Firefox 1.0, Thunderbird 0.9 and Evolution
> 2.0.3. Btw, the sarge base + standard has now been frozen.
> > > Hello ,
> > >
> > > Pranav.
> Are you sure you have sarge? Because my set has 15 binary cd's.
Hmm,
 So who has the bleeding edge one ? Since I want the latest one (
which also have gnome 2.8.x )
 Pranav has agreed to burn his set for me. If ur one is more latest
maybe I can ask him to not to burn , if u can burn me the latest. ( I
typically wanted the ISO's themselves, to try making a local
repository & also burn CDs later if needed ).
Sorry for the cc's but realized my plug mosts are getting delayed due
to moderation!.
Regards,
Karunakar
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[PLUG] New Batch of Awareness Course

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
New batch of Linux Awareness Course will be starting on 10th January 2005.
Those who are interested in the course and also those who were late for the 
last batch should register for this batch.

For registration, please contact SICSR. ph. no. 25675601-02
For course contents, check out PLUG website.
-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] ( JOB )Linux Testing professionals required.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Interested people, please communicate with the original sender directly.
-Sudhanwa
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:35:05 + (GMT)

From: Abhijeet Joshi 
Subject: Linux Testing professionals required.
Hello Mr.Joglekar,
 I am working in a company which is developing a n/w security
product for US customer. We urgently need atleast two people who
have good knowledge of Linux. The skillset required is as
follows:-
1) Good understanding of networking protocols
2)Testing experience
3)Shell scripting & Perl knowledge would be an added advantage.
  Please let me know if you come across such candidates. They
can mail me there resumes on asj_752000 at yahoo.co.in with
subject: Linux  Testing. Should you require any more information
please feel free to mail me or call me on 9822440065.
Regards,
Abhijeet Joshi
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[PLUG] Who will sign-up for BSNL's new DataOne broadband service?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 12:00 PM 1/15/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Vishal Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Who will sign-up for BSNL's new DataOne broadband service?
Hi,
Anyone here interested or planning to sign-up for BSNL's new home
plans for DataOne ADSL 2+ broadband?
Any info on how to connect Linux? Will it be a DHCP IP or some
problematic dialup procedure?
Just curious, since Im also thinking about getting the 512k (5gb) or
1mbps (10gb) connection ASAP or as soon as its available to me!
Cheers,
Vishal
Hi,
this is my story about my enquiry regarding the BSNL broadband service. You 
may consider these facts to take your decision.

To start off, I visited the URL mentioned in some mail earlier on the list. 
It does not contain any info regarding Linux support or any othe rtechnical 
info I wanted to know.

So, I called up 1500 (thats the BSNL call centre number) and started 
enquiring about some technical things. The first shock I got was "the 
person saying your normal 33.6k dialup modem should be fine for the 
broadband connection. I dont have to get any other modem." Obviously it was 
wrong, and I told him to give the call to any other senior, technical 
person. Somebody else talked to me but was even more confused after getting 
my simple technical questions( do you require a dialer, is it available on 
linuxetc...) So he directed me to another call centre no specifically 
for internet support.

I called up there and got a reply that they dont know anything about 
broadband and gave another no of Karve Road exchange. Finally, instead of 
calling up, I went to fill up the form and getthe technical queries 
answered. Well, the answeres I got were absolutely crazy ( eg: you will get 
everything in the internet we provide). The person doesnt seem to know 
anything other than M$window$. Neither they have any info about any dialer 
required and/or if it is supported on linux.

Finally, I was fade up, just filled up the form and went off.
Well, this obviously means that they dony have the slightest knowledge on 
technical things and we can  expect the same troublesome sancharnet or DIAS 
service.

Anyway, Rs. 500/- per month for the package they are offering could be 
worth considering just for the cost benefits.

-Sudhanwa
ps: I got a call today and they actually checked something on the line for 
broadband connection. thats to fast...for BSNL to respond...

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[PLUG] volunteers required

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
As mentioned in the Jan meeting, we are likely to participate in the CMDA 
exhibition.(20-23 Jan)

We need volunteers for the same.
Interested people, please send me your names , ph nos, email ids OFFLIST.
We will need PCs also for the demos. Any volunteers for them?
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Sun Announces Open Source License for Solaris Operating System

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Finally, Sun is rising on the Open Source skies
The Solaris operating system is being released under the terms of the 
OSI-approved, CDDL 
(Common Development 
and Distribution License). Millions of development hours worth of code and 
over 1,600 patents are being contributed to the open source community.

Read more here:
http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2005-01/sunflash.20050125.1.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] online tutorials

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Some good online tutorials on Linux/Open Source. Read here:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/views/linux/tutorials.jsp
-sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Tech talk in PLUG meeting

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
If anybody is interested in giving a technical talk in the next PLUG 
meeting, please let me know. I have to send meeting confirmation accordingly.

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] New to linux

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 07:10 PM 2/1/05 +0530, you wrote:
To: plug-mail@plug.org.in
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:10:14 +0530
Subject: [PLUG] New to linux
Hi ,
Thanks for the help.Actually i have got this books and magazines ready
and i want to install linux right away.
But strangely Plug doesnt have feudora linux cds with them.I am keen
to ihave an popular and standard linux dist. coz u tend to get books
and other help about it from net easily.
Is Mandrake as nice as Red Hat.(no books of it available as yet )
Plz also state some good sites about linux on net.
Does Plug have any member residing in PCMC area?
Thanks in advance,
Rajev

It is surprising to read your comments. Looks like you have not checked the 
PLUG website. Please check the CDs page which contains a list of CDs we have.

We do have people in PCMC area.
You can check the following websites to read some good articles for 
installation help and/or general distro info on Fedora/Mandrake

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=169466&seqNum=3
http://www.bitbenderforums.com/vb22/showthread.php?postid=356909
http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/review101.html
http://www.mandrakeusers.org/
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar
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[PLUG] February 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 5th February 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
PLUG meeting for February 2005 is scheduled on "Saturday 5th February 2005, 
at 4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704.(7th floor). Not yet finalised. Please check out 
there.
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda:
A. Sumit Moghe will demonstrate a localization initiative by ilug-cal and 
bd-lug.
He is involved in PLUG as well as ILUG - CAL ( Kolkata LUG ) activities.

B. We have many CD bookings during the CMDA exhibition. May newbie users 
are expected to attend the meeting. For their benefit, we will have a 
installation demo. Fedora and Mandrake installation will be demonstrated. 
Usage of other Live CDs will also be shown.

C. Updates on GNUNIFY event.
D. Any other topics raised at the meeting.
Those people who have booked their CDs during the CMDA exhibition can 
collect their sets at the meeting.

We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] Project Eklavya

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Last year sometime, we talked about engineering students projects and how 
to help/guide them through PLUG.

Somehow, that could not get materialised due to various reasons.
Here is a new project from IIT Mumbai regarding the same activities.
The Affordable Solutions Laboratory(ASL) is guiding students in Mumbai 
region and now the same idea is being extended to become project Eklavya.
All the work done by ASL is primarily targeted for release to Open Source.

You can get the project outline here and you can read More here on their 
website:

http://ekalavya.iitb.ac.in/index.jsp
People can take advantage of this project.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Project Eklavya.... corrected mail

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Last year sometime, we talked about engineering students projects and how 
to help/guide them through PLUG.

Somehow, that could not get materialised due to various reasons.
Here is a new project from IIT Mumbai regarding the same activities.
The Affordable Solutions Laboratory(ASL) is guiding students in Mumbai 
region and now the same idea is being extended to become project Eklavya.
All the work done by ASL is primarily targeted for release to Open Source.

You can get the project outline here 
http://iitbaapune.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=21

and you can read More here on their website:
http://ekalavya.iitb.ac.in/index.jsp
People can take advantage of this project.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Linux Hosting

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At 09:50 AM 2/11/05 +0530, you wrote:
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i suggest
http://hostguru.biz
the cheapest I know in India with servers in Dallas TX
If anybody know more cheaper do let me know also ;)

I can offer even cheaper hosting with the same facilities. (to startoff, it 
can be as low as Rs. 600/- for domain registration + hosting for a year for 
10 MB (for personal/not-for-profit websites)

Please send OFF-LIST message to me.
-SudhanwaTo
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[PLUG] Pune having the highest Linux awareness in India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Pune opens source code to Red Hat
And when it comes from Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Mathew Szulik, 
there is hardly any doubt as to where India centre stands in Red Hat's 
global plans. ''Pune centre will do strategic engineering work (for further 
evolution of Linux). The centre will develop new products in storage, 
systems and network management,'' Szulik said, adding the present headcount 
of 30 will be ramped up to 150 soon.

Sure, said Szulik, who divulged that Pune has the highest Linux awareness 
in India and a big pool of professionals trained in the open source 
technology. ''It's the vibrant workforce, well-versed with Linux 
applications, that made us select Pune to innovate,'' he said.

Read the article here:
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=116833
I am sure that we (I mean PLUG) do have some respectable contribution/share 
in "having the highest Linux awareness in India"

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] The idea is about sharing and freedom

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Coverage on PLUG in Indian Express, Newsline Special on Sunday 13, Feb 2005.
At Pune Linux Users Group the idea is about sharing and freedom from the 
'slavery of proprietary software

Read more here:
http://cities.expressindia.com/archivefullstory.php?newsid=117504&creation_date=2005-02-13
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] (OT) Dictionary of Algorithms and Data Structures

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

This can be useful to you.
http://www.nist.gov/dads/
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[PLUG] PLUG's Live CD

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi Pluggies,
You are probably aware that PLUG is preparing a live CD for 
electrical/electronic applications.

Some alfa, beta test CDs are already ready and we have given some demos in 
PLUG meetings and some colleges.

Manas is in the process of finalising the CD. He wants us to comb the net 
for applications which he might have missed. If you are familiar with 
AND/OR used any such good FOSS ( Strictly FOSS ) applications, please send 
a link to him on " manas_alekar AT sify DOT com ".

Please send the applications list by this Sunday (28th Feb.). The 
applications list will be freezed on that day.

We also need lots of volunteers to test the CD.
Please let us know about your willingness for contributing in suggesting 
good FOSS applications and testing the CD.

Our website will be updated with this project info in due course of time. 
We will keep you posted.

Thanks and regards,
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar
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[PLUG] PLUG's Live CD

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi Pluggies,
You are probably aware that PLUG is preparing a live CD for 
electrical/electronic applications.

Some alfa, beta test CDs are already ready and we have given some demos in 
PLUG meetings and some colleges.

Manas is in the process of finalising the CD. He wants us to comb the net 
for applications which he might have missed. If you are familiar with 
AND/OR used any such good FOSS ( Strictly FOSS ) applications, please send 
a link to him on " manas_alekar AT sify DOT com ".

Please send the applications list by this Sunday (28th Feb.). The 
applications list will be freezed on that day.

We also need lots of volunteers to test the CD.
Please let us know about your willingness for contributing in suggesting 
good FOSS applications and testing the CD.

Our website will be updated with this project info in due course of time. 
We will keep you posted.

Thanks and regards,
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar
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[PLUG] (OT) Linux companies Mandrakesoft and Conectiva Announce Definitive Merger Agreement

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Linux companies Mandrakesoft and Conectiva Announce Definitive Merger 
Agreement

Read more here:
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2539
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] meeting

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
For the upcoming PLUG meeting, ifanyone wants to talk on any technical 
and/or non-technical topic, please let me know off-list. We will announce 
the confirmation accordingly.

If anyone wants to suggest any specific topics, those topics can also be 
considered for the talks.

Thanks and regards
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[PLUG] The Apache Project Turns 10

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
The Apache Project Turns 10.  40 million sites now running on the apache 
server, which powers nearly 70 percent of web sites.

Read more here:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/02/28/the_apache_project_turns_10.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] March 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 5th March 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
PLUG meeting for March 2005 is scheduled on "Saturday 5th March 2005, at 
4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704.(7th floor). Not yet finalised. Please check out 
there.
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda:
A. demonstration of debugging with ddd by Ashish Karpe.
B. Demo of final beta of our Live CD.
C. Updates/experiences of GNUNIFY 2005.
D. Any other topics raised at the meeting.
Those people who have booked their CDs during the CMDA exhibition can 
collect their sets at the meeting. This is the final distribution of those 
CDS. We dont have the logistics and the time to keep track of all the 
people and hold the CD stock. We will not be responsible for keeping those 
CDs after this.

We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] (OT) Torvalds switches to a Mac

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Interesting report here:
Torvalds switches to a Mac
http://news.com.com/Torvalds+switches+to+a+Mac/2100-1003_3-5606030.html?tag=st_lh
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] (OT) Firefox Is Heading Towards Trouble??!!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
read the article here.
Firefox Is Heading Towards Trouble
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&e=19&u=/zd/147282
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Learning Linux Operating System

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 12:00 PM 3/13/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: "Jagdish Chandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Learning Linux Operating System
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:27:33 +0530
Friends,
At present I am using WindowsXP OS with my 1.7GB/256MB/40GB computer.
Knowing my interest in Linux My brother in law presented me a set of 4 CD's
of Mandrake 10, which he brought from the recently held Exhibition in Pune.
In the leaflet provided along with the CD's, it is mentioned that
" Even it is possible to install the distribution to your hard disk, it is
not necessary to install. You can run a complete Linux System directly from
the CD."
I have run all four CD's and was unable to find how to run Linux System from
CD, without installing.
I don't want to install Linux System right now in my hard disc.
It will be of great help to me, if you let me know how to run Linux without
installing.
I have visited your site www.plug.org and also subscribed to your mailing
list.
As I am living in Mumbai, it is not possible for me to attend the course
conducted at Symbiosis in Pune.
I will be highly obliged, if you let me know, of any similar activities
carried out in Mumbai.
Dear Jagdish Chandra,
Being a newbie to the linux world, I can understand your difficulties.
The CDs you received are not Live CDs. Please visit the plug website 
(http://plug.org.in/software.php) again and see the list of CDs we have. 
Mandrake 10.x is not live CD. Probably you dont know this as you have not 
interacted with the people while booking the CDs. Otherwise, they would 
have suggested you as per your needs.

The leaflet provided with the CDs was given with all types of CDs we gave 
that time. That was given to facilitate the users to install the 
distributions OR run the LIVE CDs. The statement you mentioned is 
specifically meant for Live CDs eg. Knoppix. If you want any live CDs, you 
can book them again or you can get it from Mumbai Linux users group people.

For the benefit  of others, here is the copy-paste of the leaflet contents..
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You may read the articles on the following websites before installing your 
GNU/Linux distribution on your system.

For Mandrake distributions :
http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/review101.html
http://www.mandrakeusers.org/
For Fedora distributions :
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=169466&seqNum=3
http://www.bitbenderforums.com/vb22/showthread.php?postid=356909
You can also refer to the official websites of those projects.
Live CDs are bootable CDs. Even if it is possible to install the 
distribution on your hard disk, it is not necessary to install. You can run 
a complete Linux system directly from the CD.

For any more queries, post them on the PLUG mailing list to get answers 
from other people on the list. Visit PLUG website 
www.plug.org.in and subscribe to the mailing list. 
You will not be able to send your mail without subscribing.
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[PLUG] (OT) software patents threat

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Please read this. Its a matter of concern to all of us.
http://linux-india.org/index.pl?id=3651&isa=Newsitem&op=show
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] (OT) FOO

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

We have been using/hearing FOO or FOOBAR so many times.
Here is some explanation about the same.
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/F/foo.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Companies accused of violating the GPL

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Companies accused of violating the GPL
Thirteen companies, including Motorola and Acer, have been handed letters 
claiming they have failed to comply with the GNU General Public License

Read more here:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39191532,00.htm
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] (JOBS)should be extremely strong in core Linux systems

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
I have received this from one of my friends.
If anybody is interested, please send CV urgently.
We need a senior test engineer (5+ years of experience in software testing 
on
Windows and Linux platform and possessing good communication skills).
He should be extremely strong in core Linux systems.
The person should be very conversant with file and print services, storage, 
data
backup, anti-virus solutions, disk management and recovery, user 
authentication,
network security and other basic services for BOTH Linux and Windows.

In addition, the person must be familiar with standard Linux enterprise 
software
such as Samba, Perl/PHP, MySQL, etc. It is extremely important that we find the
right mix of skills for this position.

This is a very URGENT requirement.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] GCC ready for overhaul

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

The entire realm of open-source software could get a performance boost if 
all goes well with a plan to overhaul a crucial programming tool called GCC.

Read more here:
http://news.com.com/Key+open-source+programming+tool+due+for+overhaul/2100-7344_3-5615886.html?tag=st.rc.targ_mb
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[PLUG] OO 2.0 beta

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

OO 2.0 beta is now ready.
Looks like these people really want to get the Office market share.
Read the features page here:
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/2.0/index.html
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] plug meeting April 05

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
We have April 05 PLUG meeting coming up.
If you are interested to talk on any technical or non-technical topics in 
the upcoming PLUG meeting, please let me know. We can decide the agenda 
accordingly.

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] [OT] intel / AMD?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 12:00 PM 3/30/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Pranav Peshwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] [OT] intel / AMD?
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
Reply-to: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
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> Hi friends,
> I want to purchase new assembled computer.
> I want to know yours views of different hardwares and their
specifications:
>
> 1. Processor : intel / amd 64
> 2. as per processor recommended mother boards
> 3. Graphics card
>

For newbies in hardware purchase, probably you can checkout here following URL:
http://in.rediff.com/getahead/2005/mar/30comp.htm
-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] April 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 2nd April 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
PLUG meeting for April 2005 is scheduled on "Saturday 2nd April 2005, at 
4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704.(7th floor). Not yet finalised. Please check out 
there.
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda:
A. Talk/demo on KGDB by Mithlesh Thukral. He is a co-maintainer of KGDB 
along with Amit Kale. (www.linsyssoft.com)

B. Talk on Kontact by Devendra Laulkar
C. Open discussion on Software patents, IPR and related issues.
D. Any other topics raised at the meeting.

We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] April 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 2nd April 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
PLUG meeting for April 2005 is scheduled on "Saturday 2nd April 2005, at 
4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)

These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: Most likely 704.(7th floor). Not yet finalised. Please check out 
there.
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda:
A. Talk/demo on KGDB by Mithlesh Thukral. He is a co-maintainer of KGDB 
along with Amit Kale. (www.linsyssoft.com)

B. Talk on Kontact by Devendra Laulkar
C. Open discussion on Software patents, IPR and related issues.
D. Any other topics raised at the meeting.

We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at the 
meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at the 
meeting.

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.
Thank you.
-Sudhanwa 

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[PLUG] April 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 2nd April 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 10:01 PM 4/1/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Shantanoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:14:42 +0530
Reply-To: Shantanoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] April 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 2nd April 2005
4:00 pm @ SICSR
Hope its not april fool. ;)
Shantanoo

Dear Shantanoo,
I expected some such kind of mail on the list. (well, not from you buddy :-( )
Because of your mail, some people are already confused and sent mails again 
for confirmation.

Please avoid such FUN which confuses people.
Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
This is the profile of Mithlesh Thukral who will be giving talk/demo of 
kgdb :
Mithlesh is a Computer engineer from Pune University, who completed his 
graduation in 2004 from Pune Institute of Computer Technology.
Mithlesh started working on Linux since 2002. His initial work included 
playing around with his linux box. His interest in OSS was increased after 
meeting Dr Moshe Bar and Richard Stallman . After that he started writing 
small modules. This interest in Linux systems guided him to do his project 
in systems during which he played with the linux kernel memory manager and 
scheduler.
After graduation, Mithlesh has been working with LinSysSoft Technologies, 
Pvt, Ltd as System Software Engineer. he started working on KGDB with Amit 
Kale and now is a Coo-Maintainer alongwith Amit Kale.

-sudhanwa
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[PLUG] This is not a joke. April 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 2nd April 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 10:01 PM 4/1/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Shantanoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:14:42 +0530
Reply-To: Shantanoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] April 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 2nd April 2005
4:00 pm @ SICSR
Hope its not april fool. ;)
Shantanoo

Dear Shantanoo,
I expected some such kind of mail on the list. (well, not from you buddy :-( )
Because of your mail, some people are already confused and sent mails again 
for confirmation.

Please avoid such FUN which confuses people.
Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
-sudhanwa


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[PLUG] This is not a joke. April 2005 Meeting Confirmation:

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 12:00 PM 4/3/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Vishal Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] This is not a joke. April 2005 Meeting Confirmation:
Saturday 2nd April 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:29:11 +0530
On Apr 1, 2005 11:47 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Shantanoo,
> I expected some such kind of mail on the list. (well, not from you 
buddy :-( )

Is that you, Shantamo?
> Because of your mail, some people are already confused and sent mails again
> for confirmation.
These people are either new to PLUG, or just plain stupid, eh?
> Please avoid such FUN which confuses people.
>
> Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
> Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
> Yes, the meeting is confirmed.
You could have mentioned this in the first place, that it is not a
joke, seeing that it's so close to April 1 and since you "expected
some such kind of mail on the list"...
( I'm in Bangalore now anyways, avoiding the Bangalore LUG meetings 8-P )

Well, I also expected this kind of mail from some other fool (refer fool's 
definition by Aditya).
Probably you are not a fool by that definition.

Anything you write on 1st April would have the same consequences..
Its sad to know how people can not differentiate between serious matter and 
fun stuff.

/me closing this topic.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Linux LPI certification

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At 12:00 PM 4/7/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Yogesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Precedence: list
Subject: [PLUG] Linux LPI certification
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:02:59 +0530
To: plug-mail@plug.org.in
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Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Message: 4
Hi,
Does anybody on this list hold LPI certification?
I was thinking of going for it.
I am working with linux for a year or so but only as a user and not 
administrator.
I want a certification which is suitable for a newbie to start off as a 
junior system administrator.

RHCE seems a bit advanced and also has a lab test.
I have no idea about how much these certifications hold value in the job 
market.
Your suggestions/opinions are most welcomed.

Thanks,
Yogesh
I dont think anybody is LPI certified here. As such, LPI is new to India 
and there is hardly any awareness of LPI.

If you think RHCE is tough, LPI will be even harder
Well, if we have enough people who are willing to appear for the LPI exams, 
we can possibly arrange  the LPI tests locally in Pune.

-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] s/Mandrake/Mandriva/g

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At 12:00 PM 4/8/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: "Himanshu K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] s/Mandrake/Mandriva/g
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:24:03 +0530

No, it's NOT Apr 1.
Mandrake has changed its name to Mandriva. (???)
This is after they acquired Conectiva.
I wonder who came up with a name like this. I suppose it must have been 
some Emacs junkie trying out an M-x dissociated-press on the merger legalese.

The press release is here:
http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551
The new Mandrakesoft webpage:
http://www.mandriva.com/
I'd prefer remaining an innocent bystander :)
hk:)
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The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The 
distinction is yours to draw...
H..
Its a clear summation of Mandrake and Connectiva.
I found this comment from their website very interesting:
..By adopting a new name, we eliminate the liability attached to the 
Mandrakesoft name .

No idea what they mean by it...
-Sudhanwa
/me still continues with Mandr*.*.*.*.*.*  :-)
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Remembering Mr. Vijay (Dada) Deval

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Pluggies,
On 13th April 2003, Vijay Deval (fondly called as Dada Deval) passed away.
We will always remember him for his contribution to PLUG and to the 
Free/Open source software community.

He was actively involved in PLUG activities. He attended almost all the 
PLUG meetings, volunteered in exhibition, even got his own PCs for the 
exhibition and talked to people regarding their enquiries. All this at the 
age of around 60.

He was a mentor to many pluggies and he remains our inspiration even today.
May God bless his soul with peace.
~~~
The Live CD which we are creating (its almost done.) for 
electrical-electronics people and which is being circulated for 
testing/trials will be dedicated to Vijay Deval.

Webpages for the CD and other related matter are being worked out.
Dada Deval was an Electrical,mechanical engineer himself and was involved 
in electroplating and other similar business activities.
~~~

-Sudhanwa Jogalekar
ps: For information of new people on the list: Vijay Deval (Fondly known as 
Dada) was the first Chairman of PLUG Trust.

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[PLUG] cyrus mail server

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
Do we have any expertise on cyrus mail server. (Ref: 
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/)

If yes, please contact me offline.
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Linux Developers Moving Towards Non-Commercial Linux Distributions

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Linux Developers Moving Towards Non-Commercial Linux Distributions, New 
Evans Data Survey

Survey Shows Factors Leading to Increase in Non-Commercial Linux Use
Please check out here:
http://www.evansdata.com/n2/pr/releases/EDCLinux05_01.shtml
-Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Setting up Mandrake 10.1 as a Firewall

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Very good reading
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/printarticle.php?id=87
-sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Unrestricted access to websites on Dataone

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

At 12:00 PM 4/22/05 +0530, you wrote:
From: Sumeet Madhukar Moghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] Unrestricted access to websites on Dataone
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:09:22 +0530
Hi,
Of late I have seen that certain websites are inaccessible with BSNL's 
Dataone
Broadband connection. I havent been able to access blogger.com,
geocities.com, yahoogroups and many others, on my connection. No, I am not
behind a firewall. Has someone else experienced the same problems? Also, does
anyone have the url where we can change our passwords for the connection?
--
/Sumeet

Hi,
I think Dataone gives you dynamic ip in the range of 59.something. It seems 
this is a new IP range alloted and many of the websites are probably 
blocking it.

Another problem is the DNS server. It does not reflect the entries properly 
and it timeouts many times.

Somehow, I am not impressed with Dataone service. Try pinging your own IP 
address and see how slow the response is. From your IP address, it takes 
some 8-10 hops to reach to backbone in Mumbai :-(

-sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Shopping Free software in CD with other name's

[sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Interesting reading regarding selling of GPL softwares with other names.
Comments,discussions expected.

http://blender.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=208&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] May 2005 Meeting Confirmation: Saturday 7th May 2005 4:00 pm @ SICSR

[sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

PLUG meeting for May 2005 is scheduled on "Saturday 7th May 2005, at
4:00 pm" at Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research
(SICSR)


These are the details:
Location: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
Atur Centre, Model Colony.
Room no: 704.(7th floor). 
Time 4:00 pm

Agenda: 

A. Talk/discussion on some software development done by Anand Kulkarni
and his team. This is related to educational softwares for school
children. Evrything is being developed in FOSS.

B. Introduction to Latex- documentation system for mathematics and
related topics. Talk/demo by Manjusha Joshi.


We will be accepting formal membership and/or renewal of membership at
the meeting.

Please book your CDs (Rs. 25/- per CD) so that you can collect them at
the meeting.

You are all invited for the meeting. Please make yourself available.

Thank you.

-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] Can You Really Get Sued for Using Open Source?

[sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Good reading.

http://www.cioupdate.com/trends/article.php/3503221

-Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] Y2K-like bug to hit Linux computers

[sudhanwa Jogalekar]

hi,

Please go through this 

http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/may/06linux.htm

kernel experts,  please comment.


-Sudhanwa

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