Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello all list members,
I have 2 questions about this little MP3 player.
Will the 2 gig one play WMA lossless files?
And, are there a nice sounding pare of battery powered stereo speakers that 
can be used with it?
Thanks in advance.
  John.
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Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone


> Hi All, yes, the one gb has a radio in it. You just push the top left bar
> twice down and the ridio goes on. You have to tune in by pressing the
> right or left buttons off the center button and it works well.
> The 2 gb is on sale or sells for $53 at WallMart  right now. The zenstone
> plus 1 gb and the 2 gb do have screens but I just get around by prssing
> buttons.
> I like the smaller zenstone better because it has buttons instead of a
> bar but it does not have the radio or the capacity!
> I like them both and that is it for me.
> MMM
> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:09:23 -0600 Christopher Chaltain
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> There is a model of the Zen Stone with an FM radio, and it does have
>> a
>> 2GB capacity, but it has a screen and a menu system on it that I've
>>
>> heard isn't particularly accessible. I've also heard that there's a
>> 2GB
>> version of the simple and screen less Zen Stone. I have a 1GB
>> version of
>> the simple and screen less Zen Stone, and that's the one I've been
>> talking about and find so accessible.
>>
>> aadorno1 wrote:
>> > hi does this mp3 player have an FM radio and is there a 2 gig
>> model.
>> > thanks.
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:58 AM
>> > Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as
>> I usually
>> >> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the
>> product.
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
>> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>> >>
>> >> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only
>> get the
>> >> firmware updat.  Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you
>> information
>> >>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a
>> check
>> >>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have
>> and
>> >>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate
>> to
>> >>> state there's no need for it.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Original Message-
>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
>> >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> >>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>> >>>
>> >>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the
>> zen
>> >>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this
>> is
>> >>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no
>> need
>> >>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge
>> the
>> >>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the
>> battery
>> >>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and
>> paste
>> >>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste
>> methods just
>> >>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot
>> easier than a
>> >>>
>> >> lot of people might think.
>> >>
>> >>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
>> >>>
>>  I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and
>> Jawas
>>  scripts. Please help.
>>  Ketan Kothari
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Re: Multiquence Question

2008-03-06 Thread Doc
How much do they limit the trial version.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: Multiquence Question


>I was never able to get it to work, but maybe I was not patient enough. 
>lol! Hopfully someone else has a different answer.
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> Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot
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> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:14 AM
> Subject: Multiquence Question
>
>
> High List members,
> I was on the Gold Wave website yesterday evening, I saw a peace of 
> multitrack mixing software that's called Multiquence.
> How user friendly is this software with Jaws and other screen readers?
>  John.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread Gary G Schindler
I suspect that if you had already purchased soundforge or something from 
Tracertech, you wouldn't necessarily even know anything about Goldwave. this is 
one of those programs the blind people brought to the forefront because of it's 
accessibility, and the developer's willingness to make it so. it would be like 
driving around in a Lamberdini and one day finding yourself having to get to 
and 
from with a Hugo. it gets most jobs done if you are willing to tweak it. if you 
are fortunate enough to have available plug-ins, they will most certainly work 
with goldwave.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Eickmeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Hi Caroline,
> if you have other plugins, like ones from  SoundForge for example, you
> could use them, instead of using one that has come  with GW.  For
> example, if you wanted an effect that you could get using SoundForge,
> I'm pretty sure that you could use that same effects plugin with
> GoldWave.  Personally I've used SoundForge for all my major editing
> for any production work I've done for various internet stations.
> Hope that helps you.
> On 4-Mar-08, at 6:08 PM, Caroline wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a
>> question.  I
>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine
>> for me.
>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in
>> or going
>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm
>> just not
>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below
>> it seems
>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was
>> done it
>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but
>> I just
>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>> nothing but
>>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise
>>> filter
>>> so we
>>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job
>>> in
>>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing
>>> works
>>> and
>>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
>>> continue
>>> to tell
>>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>>> demonstrations,
>>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works
>>> otherwise. don't
>>> brag,
>>> just produce fact.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
 conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
 experience
 that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the
 noise
 artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
 methods,
 and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
 efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
 tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds
 filtered,
 you're better off with the noise.

 Bruce
 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at
> least)
> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
> filters.
>
> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>
>> Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>> noises?
>>
>> **
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5
>> times
>> as much
>> as
>> the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>> pretty
>> good, but
>> when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>> buzzes, it
>> could
>> be improved upon.
>> goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you
>> pay for.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 

Re: Foobar 2000

2008-03-06 Thread Brett Boyer
I saw that screen compatibility stuff but never actually found it. I think 
it was for an older version of foobar. Anyway let me see if I can explain 
the keyboard setup.
Basically after you go into preferences on the file menu and open the 
general branch of the tree view, the new section is keyobard shortcuts or 
something. When you tab around you will hear the normal prefernces buttons: 
save all, close, reset, whatever. Then you will se a list view, if you arrow 
down you will hear some keystrokes and there descrpition with a bit of 
giberish betweeen every thing. Once you have highlighted any entry in this 
list by either arrowing down or pressing spacebar or whatever the rest of 
the dialog box will be revealed. If nothing get highlighted in this list you 
will not see the rest of what I am talking about.
Anyway, now that you have something highlighted you can tab to the add then 
remove buttons. Now here comes the fun part the next time you hit tab you 
will see a tree view of all the commands foobar offers; context menu 
commands, menu bar commands, playlist commands, and more. When you find the 
command you want tab once to the edit field and press your desired 
keystroke. Press shift tab till you find the add button. Now to check your 
work shift tab to the first listview and see if your keystroke and command 
have been added to the list.
Well that is the short version. If you have trouble I can go through and 
give an example if you'd like. There might be other ways of doing this but 
this is how I've been d oing it, and remember I've only used this program 
for a few weeks now.
Hope it helps
bb

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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Foobar 2000


> Hi Brett,
>
> I've heard a lot of good things about foobar, so I guess I'll persevere 
> with
> it for a bit.
>
> Could you possibly give me a quick description on how to define a hot key.
>
> Also, while looking around the net, I read something about a screen reader
> compatibility setting.  Do you know if this is correct, and if so, where 
> in
> the Foobar 2000 menu's it can be found.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brett Boyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>
>
>>I haven't found it to be very accessible with WE. This might not be a good
>> program to use for you. I am a Window-eyes user and have been for over 
>> ten
>> years, but I've got to hand it to JFW. Foobar, the first program I have
>> seen
>> that works without scripts! Believe it or not!
>> If I could write set files for WE I'm sure I could make this program 
>> work.
>> But I can't so I don't.
>> The keyboard shortcuts have to be set up by the user. It's a simple
>> process
>> but kind of a tedious one. If you don't have the time I suggest moving 
>> on.
>> Thanks
>> bb
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tim Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've downloaded the latest version, (0.9.5.1)  however it initially
>>> doesn't
>>> appear very accessible, at least with window-eyes.
>>> Are earlier versions more usable?  I've read something regarding a 
>>> screen
>>> reader compatibility setting, but can't locate it in the programs
>>> preferences.
>>>
>>> Also wonder could anyone give me a list of the basic keyboard shortcuts
>>> for
>>> the main player controls.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Tim.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:27 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>>>
>>>
 You can find it at www.foobar2000.org
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:38 AM
 Subject: RE: Foobar 2000


> where is it available for download
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:58 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>
> FOobar2000 is an accessible and rather efficient audio player.  It
> works
> by
> using mainly standard controlls, though there is one querk in the
> latest
> versions, that in order to go between the playlist tabs, you have to
> controll tab while hovering on the tab controll, not from anywhere, 
> and
> you
> can't arrow left and right.  However, it works well, and I like using
> it
> for
> some things.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Monday, February 25,

Re: Multiquence Question

2008-03-06 Thread Gary G Schindler
I have heard that it is not accessible, and I have determined from listening to 
most of your podcasts,you usually get things to work if it's doable.
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From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: Multiquence Question


>I was never able to get it to work, but maybe I was not patient enough. lol! 
>Hopfully someone else has a different answer.
> Sarah Alawami
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> Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:14 AM
> Subject: Multiquence Question
>
>
> High List members,
> I was on the Gold Wave website yesterday evening, I saw a peace of multitrack 
> mixing software that's called Multiquence.
> How user friendly is this software with Jaws and other screen readers?
>  John.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Send it to me, and send me what you were able to achieve with Sound Forge.

bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> now Bruce, that wasn't bad, do you have a copy without the noise reduction?we 
> need
> some before and after samples. describe what you did if anything to change the
> settings. I'll possibly if I can find it, give you a troublesome noise print
> sample to show you what I was trying to work with. my sister was in a nursing
> home, and my Dad used a camcorder one day so I got the audio from it. the heat
> pump in the background was noisy as all heck!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> You don't have to, you just need to know what you are doing. Take the
>> following example:
>>
>> http://bt.shellworld.net/promo.mp3
>>
>> When I recorded this a couple of years ago, I had computer noises and our
>> air conditioning system behind it, and I eliminated them using nothing but
>> the default noiseprint settings with Gold Wave. The only thing I did with
>> the file now as convert the wave file to MP3.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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>>
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>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>
>>> I have stated in a previous message the pop and click filter in goldwafe 
>>> work
>>> quite well. the hiss filter works too, but to me, taking a noise print with
>>> goldwave doesn't work the way I like it to. you shouldn't have to fiddle 
>>> with
>>> the
>>> settings to much to get good results from a noise print.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a
>>> problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for
>>> the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to
>>> work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However,
>>> the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without
>>> worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s,
>>> often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that
>>> recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and
>>> apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different
>>> presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in
>>> between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You
>>> can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much
>>> as you can in GoldWave.
>>>
>>> I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if
>>> you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4
>>> and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the
>>> current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease
>>> alone the app is worth it to me.
>>>
>>> Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl
>>> pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm
>>> not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration
>>> and offers 2 different choices for restoring.
>>>
>>> By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so,
>>> where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have
>>> them?
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>> usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I
>>> think
>>> it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>> My biggest knock on Sound Forge is 

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Caroline,
thanks for the explanation,
Billy,
Dinky Doo
- Original Message - 
From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> It's for maximizing the volume throughout the file.  If you've got a file,
> and maybe you've got slightly different levels throughout, selecting the
> file and running it through this plug-in will, to my understanding, make 
> it
> so everything is much more uniform.  From within Winamp, the file that
> you're listening to often is much improved as well because places that 
> might
> be really loud compared to the rest of the file are brought down to the
> volume of the rest of the file.  I'm probably not doing the best job of
> explaining this, but hopefully this helps a little.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a 
>>> question.
>>> I
>>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for 
>>> me.
>>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or
>>> going
>>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just 
>>> not
>>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it
>>> seems
>>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
>>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I
>>> just
>>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>>
>>> Caroline
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
nothing but
 the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise 
 filter
 so we
 don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
 comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing 
 works
 and
 provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
 continue
 to tell
 people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
 demonstrations,
 because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise.
 don't
 brag,
 just produce fact.
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
> experience
> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
> methods,
> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds 
> filtered,
> you're better off with the noise.
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>> filters.
>>
>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>
>> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>> > noises?
>> >
>> > **
>> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>> >
>> >
>> > robert Doc Wright
>> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>> > msn
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 
>> > times
>> > as much
>> > as
>> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>> > pretty
>> > good, but
>> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>> > buzzes, it
>>>

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
Exactly! this has been mentioned on-list before and if you look  
through the pc-audio archives you'll also see that I (and a couple of  
others) have discussed EAC at length, I went so far as to say (then as  
I do now) that Exact Audio Copy is the best CD ripping solution on the  
planet because of its accuracy, flaxibility and configurability.
I've been using Exact Audio Copy for the past 5 years and I've  
discussed aspects of my time with EAC and how I (along with others)  
have evolved a CD library of Cue and Flac files, these pairs can be  
both produced and used with Exact Audio Copy to produce some  
astonishing feats and these keep getting more numurus as time goes on  
so I'll summaries what cue and Flac file pairing allows me to do with  
EAC at the present.
Firstly, I have over 10,000 CD'S formatted in this way. I have up  
until this point kept them backed up on DVD discs with a simple text  
file to catalogue all of them but as of tomorrow? Well, all this  
content gets dumped on to a NAD (Networked Attached Drive), all my  
computers over the network will have access to them.
Next, using EAC or other compatible software, I can use a pair of  
files and convert the pair to MP3 or whatever tracks. Suppose for  
example you had a pair of files called SuperTramp - Breakfast In  
America.cue and .flac as a pair, you could use Exact Audio Copy to  
have the MP3 tracks of the album produced. further to this, you could  
make an exact CD copy  using the file pair for your CD player.
Now of course, what I'm talking about here can't be done overnight, it  
takes a bit of setting up and a few little extra tools make the job a  
lot easier but if I and other people can do it and you want your music  
at your fingertips then I certainly recommend you having a look at  
this as other list members have done, actually got a note from one a  
few days ago about what a difference this approach had made to both he  
having accurate and error-free rips and music at his convenience.

On 06/03/2008, at 2:47 PM, Caroline wrote:

> I just did a Google search for it and discovered that, A, it can be  
> found at
> http://www.exactaudiocopy.de and B, it's free for personal use.
>
> Caroline

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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Bruce,
I like that, how did you get the 3 dimensional stereo sound?
It is very seldom I hear that in an MP3 file.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>
> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
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> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>
>> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to return 
>> to
>> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your 
>> singing
>> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't worry
>> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just keep
>> singing until you get it like you want.
>>
>> **
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>>
>>
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>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
>>> the
>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are 
>>> in
>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into 
>>> winamp,
>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>> Sorry about this,
>>> Billy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
 Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
 vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, 
 since
 it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
 copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
 mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
 can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
 thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
 you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
 effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin 
 as
 it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice 
 with
 the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background 
 music
 as well.

 Bruce


 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce,
> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
> goldwave
> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
> project?.
> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, 
> which
> is
> possible,
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>> track
>> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>> There
>> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
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>>
>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>>> but

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Caroline,
Thank you a whole bunch for this link!
I truly believe that it was God sent, and he used you to send it to me.
Again, thank you!
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


>I just did a Google search for it and discovered that, A, it can be found 
>at
> http://www.exactaudiocopy.de and B, it's free for personal use.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class
>
>
>> High Steve,
>> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
>> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought CD's
>> sense the late 1990's.
>> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as far 
>> as
>> ripping and burning CD's goes.
>> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
>> My best regards.
>>  John.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC-Audio" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: Exact Audio Copy Class
>>
>>
>>> To join this class you will need to be a supporting member of
>>> www.vipconduit.com.  -Steve.
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Tuesday, March 18
>>> Attention VIPConduit Supporting Members
>>>
>>> Dennis, Startbutton, invites you to join him for a new class beginning
>>> on Tuesday, March 18, at 9:00PM Eastern, in Dennis's Classroom.
>>> Below you will find a description of the Exact Audio Copy Class.
>>> You do not need to register ahead of time.
>>>
>>> Learning Exact Audio Copy.
>>>
>>> Time: 9:00PM Eastern
>>>
>>> Location: Dennis's Classroom
>>>
>>> Number of classes 2 to 4.
>>>
>>> Experience level intermediate.
>>>
>>> Blind friendliness level, 8 points out of a possible 10 points.
>>>
>>> This class is open to supporting members of VIPConduit.
>>>
>>> Exact audio copy may be the most accurate CD ripping and burning package
>>> that I have ever used in the last ten years.
>>>
>>> The latest addition of this program has several improvements over the
>>> earlier version that I reviewed up on the tutorial section of the VIP
>>> conduit web site.
>>>
>>> You no longer have to manually set up the program to get the best
>>> settings for the ripper.
>>> This should significantly shorten the learning curve on an extremely
>>> cool program.
>>>
>>> Here is a list of the subjects we will be covering during this class.
>>>
>>> 1. Installation
>>>
>>> 2. Setup using the setup wizard.
>>>
>>> 3. Ripping are first CD.
>>>
>>> 3,A. Retrieving CD info from the CDDB data base.
>>>
>>> 3,B. Talking about what keys to use to rip your first CD.
>>>
>>> 3,C. Selecting and unselecting tracks to be ripped in the list of
>>> tracks.
>>>
>>> 3,d. Saving your tracks to the hard drive.
>>>
>>> 4. Burning are first CD.
>>>
>>> 4,A. Loading up the CD lay out editor.
>>>
>>> 4,B. Selecting the tracks you want to burn to CD.
>>>
>>> 4,C. Starting the burning process
>>>
>>> 4,d. Closing the CD lay out editor.
>>>
>>> 5. Copying a CD.
>>>
>>> 5,a. Saving a copy of the image and q sheet to be used in burning the
>>> CD.
>>>
>>> 5,b. Once again loading the layout editor.
>>>
>>> 5,c. Loading the image and q sheet in to the layout editor for burning
>>> to CD.
>>>
>>> 5,D. Burning the q sheet and image to the CD.
>>>
>>> Special note:  This program only works with audio CD's.
>>>
>>> It will not burn data CDs or DVD disks.
>>>
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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
That's a fair question. Easy CD DA Extractor comes very close but for  
one thing, you cannot set the drive offsets so therefore you don't get  
exact rips.

On 06/03/2008, at 2:48 PM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> I'm not trying to start an argument, just to be educated. What makes  
> the
> quality of its rips better than, say, Easy CD-DA Extractor?
>
> bruce
>

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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I've never used Creative Media Lite without the scripts, so I don't know 
how usable it is without them, but it doesn't seem like a very 
complicated application. BTW, according to the web page, here are the 
features of the scripts:
• Most of the buttons speak their names as you use Tab, Shift+Tab or 
Insert+Tab. There is still a bit of work to be done in the Settings 
Dialog of the CD ripper as the fields do not speak correctly but this 
will come in time.
• When you Tab into the main drive list or the Zen player contents list, 
the individual list is identified.
• F12 activates the Audio CD rip Button.
• Usefully, you can now check or uncheck the songs to be extracted from 
a CD from the list by pressing Space Bar.
JAWS will announce if the song is checked or unchecked.
• ALT+Control+V will allow you to set the maximum volume of the player 
and access the parental controls.
• ALT+Control+U enables updates to be accessed via the Internet.
• F11 tells you the charge of the player and the amount of free space.
• A small amount of Hotkey Help is available.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
> Yep, and let's take this a step further, I actually did give the 
> creative media lite software a look, i wanted to know what it was all 
> about.  I was able to use it just fine, I was surprised to hear 
> someone had created scripts for it.  That's one of those situations 
> where I think scripts are kind of unnecessary, but at the same time, 
> i'm glad they're out there for folks who want them. I like being able 
> to hook up the zen stone, copy files to it, unplug it and take it 
> with me.  no muss, no fuss, just straight file transfering.  That's 
> how it should be, least to me.
>
> At 01:26 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> Right On, that is what I wanted to say but you beat me to it, great an
>> good for this group!
>> MMM
>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:39 -0600 Chris Skarstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> writes:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is
>>>
>>> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use
>>> it,
>>> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole
>>> lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone,
>>> because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer
>>>
>>> files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because
>>>
>>> you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software
>>>
>>> interfaces for transfering files.
>>>
>>> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>>>   
 You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
 On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 
> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does
>   
>>> have a
>>>   
> fast
> forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation
>   
>>> circle
>>>   
> down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the
>   
>>> current
>>>   
> file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if
>   
>>> you jump
>>>   
> to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
> connected
> to the computer.
>
> albert griffith wrote:
>   
>> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
>> ability to
>> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer
>> 
>>> when
>>>   
>> this
>> function is called for.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>   
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>>
>> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you
>> 
>>> have
>>>   
>> the
>> latest firmware.
>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place
>>>   
>>> in a
>>>   
>>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come
>>>   
>>> back to
>>>   
>>> the
>>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only
>>>   
>>> jump
>>>   
>>> from
>>> file to file.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>> Subject: zenstone question
>>>
>>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is
>>>   
>>> the
>>>   
>>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which
>>>   
>>> has the
>>>   
>>> switch on top instead of th

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread Doc
Where can I find audio stocker?

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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> No. She's using Audio Stocker. For me personally the Thomas Limiter has
> too many options. But you could use that too if you wish.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
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>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>
>> Is this the thomas limiter?
>>
>> **
>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>
>>
>> robert Doc Wright
>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> It's for maximizing the volume throughout the file.  If you've got a 
>>> file,
>>> and maybe you've got slightly different levels throughout, selecting the
>>> file and running it through this plug-in will, to my understanding, make
>>> it
>>> so everything is much more uniform.  From within Winamp, the file that
>>> you're listening to often is much improved as well because places that
>>> might
>>> be really loud compared to the rest of the file are brought down to the
>>> volume of the rest of the file.  I'm probably not doing the best job of
>>> explaining this, but hopefully this helps a little.
>>>
>>> Caroline
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
 Billy,
 Dinky Doo


 - Original Message -
 From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a
> question.
> I
> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for
> me.
> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or
> going
> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just
> not
> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it
> seems
> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done 
> it
> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I
> just
> found the below message to be rather rude.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>> nothing but
>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise
>> filter
>> so we
>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job 
>> in
>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing
>> works
>> and
>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
>> continue
>> to tell
>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>> demonstrations,
>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise.
>> don't
>> brag,
>> just produce fact.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
>>> experience
>>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the 
>>> noise
>>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
>>> methods,
>>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>>> efforts leave you either with a lot of arti

Re: Multiquence Question

2008-03-06 Thread Sarah
I was never able to get it to work, but maybe I was not patient enough. lol! 
Hopfully someone else has a different answer.
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:14 AM
Subject: Multiquence Question


High List members,
I was on the Gold Wave website yesterday evening, I saw a peace of multitrack 
mixing software that's called Multiquence.
How user friendly is this software with Jaws and other screen readers?
  John.

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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread tickpub
Hi All, yes, the one gb has a radio in it. You just push the top left bar
twice down and the ridio goes on. You have to tune in by pressing the
right or left buttons off the center button and it works well.
The 2 gb is on sale or sells for $53 at WallMart  right now. The zenstone
plus 1 gb and the 2 gb do have screens but I just get around by prssing
buttons.
I like the smaller zenstone better because it has buttons instead of a
bar but it does not have the radio or the capacity!
I like them both and that is it for me.  
MMM
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:09:23 -0600 Christopher Chaltain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is a model of the Zen Stone with an FM radio, and it does have 
> a 
> 2GB capacity, but it has a screen and a menu system on it that I've 
> 
> heard isn't particularly accessible. I've also heard that there's a 
> 2GB 
> version of the simple and screen less Zen Stone. I have a 1GB 
> version of 
> the simple and screen less Zen Stone, and that's the one I've been 
> talking about and find so accessible.
> 
> aadorno1 wrote:
> > hi does this mp3 player have an FM radio and is there a 2 gig 
> model.
> > thanks.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
> >
> >
> >   
> >> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as 
> I usually
> >> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the 
> product.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>
> >> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only 
> get the
> >> firmware updat.  Thank you.
> >>
> >> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you 
> information
> >>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a 
> check
> >>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have 
> and
> >>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate 
> to
> >>> state there's no need for it.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
> >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>>
> >>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the 
> zen
> >>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this 
> is
> >>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no 
> need
> >>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge 
> the
> >>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the 
> battery
> >>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and 
> paste
> >>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste 
> methods just
> >>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot 
> easier than a
> >>>   
> >> lot of people might think.
> >> 
> >>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>>   
>  I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and 
> Jawas
>  scripts. Please help.
>  Ketan Kothari
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>  Cell: 9987550614
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

2008-03-06 Thread Bobcat
Hi Gary.  I don't know anything about HAM.  I only noticed they said the EQ 
package was designed for the ameture radio comunity.

Bob

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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:14 PM
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> Bobcat, that is an interesting read. could you use this equalizer with 
> Echolink?
> things are getting quite sophisticated for ham radio these days.
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> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>
>
>> Here is another equalizer to try.
>> RoMac 10 Band Equalizer
>> http://www.romacsoftware.com/EQdefault.asp
>>
>> Don't let the name fool you.  It is Windows not Mac software.
>> This page is worth looking at just for the technical information alone. 
>> The
>> product appears to be developed for the Amateur Radio Community
>>
>> Bob
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

2008-03-06 Thread Gary G Schindler
Okay, bob, I am not a ham either, but heard of Echolink for hams and wondered 
if 
this equalizer would work with it. thanks anyway.
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From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.


> Hi Gary.  I don't know anything about HAM.  I only noticed they said the EQ
> package was designed for the ameture radio comunity.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>
>
>> Bobcat, that is an interesting read. could you use this equalizer with
>> Echolink?
>> things are getting quite sophisticated for ham radio these days.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>
>>
>>> Here is another equalizer to try.
>>> RoMac 10 Band Equalizer
>>> http://www.romacsoftware.com/EQdefault.asp
>>>
>>> Don't let the name fool you.  It is Windows not Mac software.
>>> This page is worth looking at just for the technical information alone.
>>> The
>>> product appears to be developed for the Amateur Radio Community
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi.  Wow, there must be more than one version of the 1 GB model of 
the Zen stone, because I just tried what was suggested, and the bar 
is actually more of a slide switch. It doesn't actually push inwards, 
rather it can be moved over to one position for shuffle play, the 
other position for regular, and if you move it to the left, it will 
switch folders, this is of course assuming you've put more than one 
folder of music or audio on it.
and when you move the bar to the left to change folders, the switch 
doesn't move into another position, it moves and then when you let it 
go it moves back where it was, the best way i can describe it is it 
sort of  springs to the other position and when you let go of the bar 
it moves back in place. I'm probably not  doing it justice.  But I 
most definitely have the 1 GB model, no question about it and mine 
most definitely does not have an fm radio on it.  Maybe some other 
moddels of the 1 GB storage version have been produced including a 
radio, but mine does not have that.


  At 10:48 PM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>Hi All, yes, the one gb has a radio in it. You just push the top left bar
>twice down and the ridio goes on. You have to tune in by pressing the
>right or left buttons off the center button and it works well.
>The 2 gb is on sale or sells for $53 at WallMart  right now. The zenstone
>plus 1 gb and the 2 gb do have screens but I just get around by prssing
>buttons.
>I like the smaller zenstone better because it has buttons instead of a
>bar but it does not have the radio or the capacity!
>I like them both and that is it for me.
>MMM
>On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:09:23 -0600 Christopher Chaltain
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > There is a model of the Zen Stone with an FM radio, and it does have
> > a
> > 2GB capacity, but it has a screen and a menu system on it that I've
> >
> > heard isn't particularly accessible. I've also heard that there's a
> > 2GB
> > version of the simple and screen less Zen Stone. I have a 1GB
> > version of
> > the simple and screen less Zen Stone, and that's the one I've been
> > talking about and find so accessible.
> >
> > aadorno1 wrote:
> > > hi does this mp3 player have an FM radio and is there a 2 gig
> > model.
> > > thanks.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:58 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as
> > I usually
> > >> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the
> > product.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> > >>
> > >> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only
> > get the
> > >> firmware updat.  Thank you.
> > >>
> > >> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you
> > information
> > >>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a
> > check
> > >>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have
> > and
> > >>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate
> > to
> > >>> state there's no need for it.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
> > >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > >>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> > >>>
> > >>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the
> > zen
> > >>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this
> > is
> > >>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no
> > need
> > >>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge
> > the
> > >>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the
> > battery
> > >>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and
> > paste
> > >>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste
> > methods just
> > >>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot
> > easier than a
> > >>>
> > >> lot of people might think.
> > >>
> > >>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
> > >>>
> >  I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and
> > Jawas
> >  scripts. Please help.
> >  Ketan Kothari
> >  Phone: [r] 24223281,
> >  Cell: 9987550614
> >  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Skype ID: Ketan
> > 
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played 
on the Dr. Demento Show:

http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3

Bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:

> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to return to
> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your singing
> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't worry
> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just keep
> singing until you get it like you want.
>
> **
> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
>> the
>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp,
>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>> Sorry about this,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 Bruce,
 can you please explain how you achieved this?.
 Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
 goldwave
 and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
 If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
 project?.
 Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
 is
 possible,
 Billy,
 Dinky Doo

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> track
> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> There
> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
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>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>
>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>> but
>> I
>> just can't get it to work.
>> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>> the
>> mother board.
>>
>> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> I use GW for everyth

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
The Freeverb plugin is a very good plugin for its lack of price, that's 
all I can say.

Bruce

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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Bruce,
> I like that, how did you get the 3 dimensional stereo sound?
> It is very seldom I hear that in an MP3 file.
>  John.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
>> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>>
>> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to return
>>> to
>>> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
>>> singing
>>> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't worry
>>> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just keep
>>> singing until you get it like you want.
>>>
>>> **
>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> msn
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Click to call me
>>> http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
 the
 backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
 in
 goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
 winamp,
 and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
 singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
 Sorry about this,
 Billy



 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
> since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
> as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
> with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
> music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>> which
>> is
>> possible,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>> track
>>> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>>> There
>>> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi Caroline,
if you have other plugins, like ones from  SoundForge for example, you  
could use them, instead of using one that has come  with GW.  For  
example, if you wanted an effect that you could get using SoundForge,  
I'm pretty sure that you could use that same effects plugin with  
GoldWave.  Personally I've used SoundForge for all my major editing  
for any production work I've done for various internet stations. 
Hope that helps you.
On 4-Mar-08, at 6:08 PM, Caroline wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a  
> question.  I
> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine  
> for me.
> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in  
> or going
> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm  
> just not
> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below  
> it seems
> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was  
> done it
> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but  
> I just
> found the below message to be rather rude.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>> nothing but
>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise  
>> filter
>> so we
>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job  
>> in
>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing  
>> works
>> and
>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't  
>> continue
>> to tell
>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>> demonstrations,
>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works  
>> otherwise. don't
>> brag,
>> just produce fact.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my  
>>> experience
>>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the  
>>> noise
>>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional  
>>> methods,
>>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds  
>>> filtered,
>>> you're better off with the noise.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at  
 least)
 to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
 filters.

 On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:

> Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
> noises?
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5  
> times
> as much
> as
> the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
> pretty
> good, but
> when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
> buzzes, it
> could
> be improved upon.
> goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you  
> pay for.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten  
> times the
> price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
> cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
> (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is)  
> then
> it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
> Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>
> On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does,  
>> and
>> a soundforge
>> like editing capability.
>>
>> - Original Me

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well yes, it can be made to do some file conversions, you can for  
example convert from wave to MP3 and this feature is even further  
enhanced if you know the command line structure of the 32-bit console  
versions of say Flac or LAME, you can them set these command lines up  
in EAC and load them on a "profile" basis, one for Flac, one for  
different presets of LAME and so forth.
I probably haven't explained myself properly here so please (if you  
need to) ask questions.

On 06/03/2008, at 2:52 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I have heard nothing but good things to say about exact audio copy.  
> I guess
> ripping is the only thing it does? it doesn't do file conversions?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class
>
>
> I must say that I'm very proud to see Exact Audio Copy at last!
> getting some well overdue recognition and not being laughed at for a
> change by the few idiots around the traps who ought to know better
> .
> yes, the software is even better than it was before with the
> introduction of several improvements including the "accurate rip"
> feature which compares other rips (done by EAC) of the same CD over
> the Internet, from that information EAC can automatically configure
> your CD drive for optimum performance when ripping rather than you
> having to specify the ofset speeds manually etc.
>
> On 06/03/2008, at 1:25 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>
>> High Steve,
>> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
>> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought
>> CD's
>> sense the late 1990's.
>> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as
>> far as
>> ripping and burning CD's goes.
>> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
>> My best regards.
>> John.
>
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Gary G Schindler
this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your sound 
card.

- Original Message - 
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play the
> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp,
> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> Sorry about this,
> Billy
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>> as well.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Bruce,
>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>> goldwave
>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>> project?.
>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>>> is
>>> possible,
>>> Billy,
>>> Dinky Doo
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>> >track
>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>> >
>>> > Bruce
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>> >
>>> > Bruce Toews
>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> > http://www.ogts.net
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>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but
>>> >> I
>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>>> >> the
>>> >> mother board.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>> >> Billy
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>>> >>> shows
>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> >>> gave
>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>  I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started
>>>  donig
>>>  this sometime last year.
>>> 
>>>  Sarah Alawami
>>>  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>  skype: marrie1
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>>>  www.marrie.org
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>>>  http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>  For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast check
>>>  out
>>>  http://tffp.m

Re: zenstone question

2008-03-06 Thread tickpub
No, dont use the menue, just sort of learned the moves with the smaller
zenstone and it works ok. I do have some frustration but that is nothing
new to me.
I'm still lerning, and it would be nice if someone made a Pod cast for
the zenstone plus!
MMM
 
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:37:45 -0700 "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Michael.  Are you able to reliably navigate the menus on the Zen 
> Stone Plus? 
> Can you get to the voice recorder and FM tuner?
> 
> I read the manual but it wasn't clear how the menu structure works, 
> if it 
> wraps, or remembers weather you left off, etcetera.
> 
> Bob
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:08 AM
> Subject: zenstone question
> 
> 
> > Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
> 1gig
> > unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
> switch on
> > top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do 
> not need
> > any software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to 
> plug it
> > into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> > You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site 
> and there
> > you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> > I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
> expensive
> > and more useable one instead.
> > Take care and that is what I know
> > MMM
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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Caroline
I just did a Google search for it and discovered that, A, it can be found at 
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de and B, it's free for personal use.

Caroline

- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


> High Steve,
> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought CD's
> sense the late 1990's.
> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as far as
> ripping and burning CD's goes.
> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
> My best regards.
>  John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC-Audio" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:27 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Exact Audio Copy Class
>
>
>> To join this class you will need to be a supporting member of
>> www.vipconduit.com.  -Steve.
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Tuesday, March 18
>> Attention VIPConduit Supporting Members
>>
>> Dennis, Startbutton, invites you to join him for a new class beginning
>> on Tuesday, March 18, at 9:00PM Eastern, in Dennis's Classroom.
>> Below you will find a description of the Exact Audio Copy Class.
>> You do not need to register ahead of time.
>>
>> Learning Exact Audio Copy.
>>
>> Time: 9:00PM Eastern
>>
>> Location: Dennis's Classroom
>>
>> Number of classes 2 to 4.
>>
>> Experience level intermediate.
>>
>> Blind friendliness level, 8 points out of a possible 10 points.
>>
>> This class is open to supporting members of VIPConduit.
>>
>> Exact audio copy may be the most accurate CD ripping and burning package
>> that I have ever used in the last ten years.
>>
>> The latest addition of this program has several improvements over the
>> earlier version that I reviewed up on the tutorial section of the VIP
>> conduit web site.
>>
>> You no longer have to manually set up the program to get the best
>> settings for the ripper.
>> This should significantly shorten the learning curve on an extremely
>> cool program.
>>
>> Here is a list of the subjects we will be covering during this class.
>>
>> 1. Installation
>>
>> 2. Setup using the setup wizard.
>>
>> 3. Ripping are first CD.
>>
>> 3,A. Retrieving CD info from the CDDB data base.
>>
>> 3,B. Talking about what keys to use to rip your first CD.
>>
>> 3,C. Selecting and unselecting tracks to be ripped in the list of
>> tracks.
>>
>> 3,d. Saving your tracks to the hard drive.
>>
>> 4. Burning are first CD.
>>
>> 4,A. Loading up the CD lay out editor.
>>
>> 4,B. Selecting the tracks you want to burn to CD.
>>
>> 4,C. Starting the burning process
>>
>> 4,d. Closing the CD lay out editor.
>>
>> 5. Copying a CD.
>>
>> 5,a. Saving a copy of the image and q sheet to be used in burning the
>> CD.
>>
>> 5,b. Once again loading the layout editor.
>>
>> 5,c. Loading the image and q sheet in to the layout editor for burning
>> to CD.
>>
>> 5,D. Burning the q sheet and image to the CD.
>>
>> Special note:  This program only works with audio CD's.
>>
>> It will not burn data CDs or DVD disks.
>>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread Doc
What makes an editor professional is determined by the skill of the person 
doing the editing.  If you haven't a clue on what to listen for, remove or 
enhance, I don't care how many bells and whistles a particular editing 
program may have you're going to get poor to mediocre quality.  You are 
going to have to scrape your ears a while to get what you have decided is 
good to excellant quality.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I know I'm going to regret this, but what makes an editor a professional
> one in your personal opinion?
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:19:01 -0500, "Gary G Schindler"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> I wouldn't push goldwave as a professional audio editor, powerful yes,
>> professional no. your example of Amadeus Pro is an excellent example of
>> what can
>> be done at an affordable price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> That's been my point all along, you get what you pay for. Yes ok,
>> Amadeus Pro at $40.00 has some really excellent noise reduction stuff
>> which is comparible to the competition but even supposing Amadeus Pro
>> didn't have these excellent noise removal tools? Well in my view, the
>> software would still be an absolute bargain, GoldWave and Amadeus Pro
>> are advertised as "audio editors" and where does it say anywhere that
>> Noise reduction has to be part of an audio editor?
>> As I and others have said before, the great thing about Goldwave,
>> Amadeus Pro, Sound Forge, Total Recorder, Sonar and others is that you
>> can use other plug-ins with the product so if you don't like what
>> Goldwave has to offer in the form of Noise Reduction, Graphic EQ or
>> whatever then by all means! by a third party plug-in to solve the
>> problem and (strange as it may seem) if you buy Goldwave then you
>> certainly are given a lot of change to purchase other plug-ins .
>> I myself use a lot of Third Party plug-ins, I used them with Sound
>> Gorge but now I'll most likely be using them with Goldwave as I found
>> them to be far more accessible with a screen reader, I detailed them
>> before some time ago on this list, a whole heap of equalisers,
>> filters, flangers, echo units, compressors and the like which (once
>> again) are absolutely compatible with anything which will handle direx
>> plug-ins.
>>
>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:35 PM, constantine (on laptop) wrote:
>>
>> > So seriously, I'm finding this a bit insulting. You expect gold
>> > wave, priced
>> > at 29 bucks, to do what sound forge does huh? Well, sound forge is
>> > about 400
>> > plus, and honestly, only a millionare could afford it. Not to
>> > mention, if
>> > you don't like gw's noise reduction features, use audacity, as
>> > someone on
>> > here already stated, its features in terms of noise reduction are
>> > better
>> > than gw.
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
>> >
>> > contact details:
>> >
>> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > skype: the_conman283
>> >
>> > system details:
>> > Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
>> > AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 2512 mb DDR ram(
>> > hopefully!), Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:10 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
>> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
>> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>> >
>> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >
>> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>> >> a soundforge
>> >> like editing capability.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
>> >> you
>> >> expect, its a steal.
>> >>
>> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> >>> reduction isn't very
>> >>> good at all. Soundforge is 

Re: Zenstone questions here folks!

2008-03-06 Thread tickpub
Thank you, that is nice!
 
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:17:08 -0500 "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hello,
> Yes there is a flash drive that you can get to do what you are 
> asking about.
> It is called the San Disc U-3 4 gig.
> You can get them from RadioShack.
> They had a special on them when I got mine.
> I only paid $29.95 for it when they were running the special.
> But they usually run for about $50.
> My best regards.
>   John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:06 PM
> Subject: Zenstone questions here folks!
> 
> 
> > Hi all, sort of been reading along the discussion of zenstone but 
> so far
> > your not explaining which zentstone your useing. One might be 
> saying the
> > zenstone which is the smaller version while the zenstone plus is 
> 1GB and
> > those two might work different. I own both and I know there is a
> > difference. The zenstone plus or the 1 gb is not as easy to use as 
> the
> > simple zenstone. The switch buttons on top are easier to use, but 
> I do
> > like the larger capacity. But from your discussions, I have 
> learned that
> > you can fast forward now I got to go  chekc this out.
> >
> > Now, hey Wallmart has the zenstone 2 gb for $53 and the regular 
> for 33.
> > That so far is the best -price i have seen.
> >
> > How I use mine is like this: I have friends in Australia and they 
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Bruce, how do i set my record device to mic?,
I have a Dell desktop computer, with on-board sound, and cannot for the life 
of me find this option, or the what you hear option,
Billy
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> You don't have to alt-tab back into Gold Wave. If you have your recording
> device set to mike, then it doesn't matter what's playing over your
> headphones, Gold Wave will be recording from the mike.
>
> bruce
>
> -- 
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>
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> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>
>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play 
>> the
>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into 
>> winamp,
>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>> Sorry about this,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 Bruce,
 can you please explain how you achieved this?.
 Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
 goldwave
 and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
 If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
 project?.
 Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, 
 which
 is
 possible,
 Billy,
 Dinky Doo

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> track
> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. 
> There
> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
> gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
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>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>
>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, 
>> but
>> I
>> just can't get it to work.
>> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>> the
>> mother board.
>>
>> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>>> shows
>>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave
>>> the right to become children o

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Gary G Schindler
say no more, you have explained enough. I certainly didn't mean to imply that 
you 
hadn't. I was curious about the program.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


Well yes, it can be made to do some file conversions, you can for
example convert from wave to MP3 and this feature is even further
enhanced if you know the command line structure of the 32-bit console
versions of say Flac or LAME, you can them set these command lines up
in EAC and load them on a "profile" basis, one for Flac, one for
different presets of LAME and so forth.
I probably haven't explained myself properly here so please (if you
need to) ask questions.

On 06/03/2008, at 2:52 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I have heard nothing but good things to say about exact audio copy.
> I guess
> ripping is the only thing it does? it doesn't do file conversions?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class
>
>
> I must say that I'm very proud to see Exact Audio Copy at last!
> getting some well overdue recognition and not being laughed at for a
> change by the few idiots around the traps who ought to know better
> .
> yes, the software is even better than it was before with the
> introduction of several improvements including the "accurate rip"
> feature which compares other rips (done by EAC) of the same CD over
> the Internet, from that information EAC can automatically configure
> your CD drive for optimum performance when ripping rather than you
> having to specify the ofset speeds manually etc.
>
> On 06/03/2008, at 1:25 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>
>> High Steve,
>> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
>> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought
>> CD's
>> sense the late 1990's.
>> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as
>> far as
>> ripping and burning CD's goes.
>> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
>> My best regards.
>> John.
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Use the Windows volume control.

Bruce
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:13:37 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce, how do i set my record device to mic?,
> I have a Dell desktop computer, with on-board sound, and cannot for the
> life 
> of me find this option, or the what you hear option,
> Billy
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> 
> 
> > You don't have to alt-tab back into Gold Wave. If you have your recording
> > device set to mike, then it doesn't matter what's playing over your
> > headphones, Gold Wave will be recording from the mike.
> >
> > bruce
> >
> > -- 
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
> >
> > Bruce Toews
> > Skype ID: o.canada
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play 
> >> the
> >> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
> >> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into 
> >> winamp,
> >> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> >> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> >> Sorry about this,
> >> Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> >>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> >>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
> >>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> >>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> >>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> >>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> >>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> >>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> >>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
> >>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
> >>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
> >>> as well.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>  Bruce,
>  can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>  Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>  goldwave
>  and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>  If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>  project?.
>  Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, 
>  which
>  is
>  possible,
>  Billy,
>  Dinky Doo
> 
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: sound editing?
> 
> 
> > I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> > track
> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. 
> > There
> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
> > gave
> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
> >
> > Bruce Toews
> > Skype ID: o.canada
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > http://www.ogts.net
> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >
> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, 
> >> but
> >> I
> >> just can't get it to work.
> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
> >> the
> >> mother board.
> >>
> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
> >> Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 

Re: Amadeus Pro: this software just keeps getting better

2008-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
I doubt even such a thing exists but if it did then I can't see why it  
wouldn't, then you'd have to get Leopard and Voiceover working so  
you'd have a lot of fun .

On 06/03/2008, at 3:16 PM, Sunshine wrote:

> wouldnt mac software work on windows using a mac /windows emelator?

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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread Jerry Richer
 The Zenstone and the Zenstone Plus will play WMA and MP3 files.  That's
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powered speaker system for them but I've never seen it.

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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
No it's not, not if you read my instructions previously. Using the what 
you hear option would make it impossible to record the vocals separately. 
It's another way of recording the vocals, yes, but it doesn't give you the 
control over the effects you wish to apply to the vocals.

Bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your sound 
> card.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play the
>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp,
>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>> Sorry about this,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 Bruce,
 can you please explain how you achieved this?.
 Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
 goldwave
 and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
 If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
 project?.
 Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
 is
 possible,
 Billy,
 Dinky Doo

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> track
> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>
>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but
>> I
>> just can't get it to work.
>> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>> the
>> mother board.
>>
>> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>>> shows
>>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave
>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> Sk

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
I honestly can't remember where I found it. If you can't find it in a 
Google search, MSN me when I get home and I'll send it to you.

Bruce

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:

> Where can I find audio stocker?
>
> **
> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> No. She's using Audio Stocker. For me personally the Thomas Limiter has
>> too many options. But you could use that too if you wish.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
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>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> Is this the thomas limiter?
>>>
>>> **
>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
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>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
 It's for maximizing the volume throughout the file.  If you've got a
 file,
 and maybe you've got slightly different levels throughout, selecting the
 file and running it through this plug-in will, to my understanding, make
 it
 so everything is much more uniform.  From within Winamp, the file that
 you're listening to often is much improved as well because places that
 might
 be really loud compared to the rest of the file are brought down to the
 volume of the rest of the file.  I'm probably not doing the best job of
 explaining this, but hopefully this helps a little.

 Caroline

 - Original Message -
 From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Caroline, what do you use the Winamp plugin for?,
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a
>> question.
>> I
>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for
>> me.
>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or
>> going
>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just
>> not
>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it
>> seems
>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done
>> it
>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I
>> just
>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>> nothing but
>>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise
>>> filter
>>> so we
>>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job
>>> in
>>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing
>>> works
>>> and
>>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
>>> continue
>>> to tell
>>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>>> demonstrations,
>>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise.
>>> don't
>>> brag,

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread TrueBlue & Proud
Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix options,

Billy,
Dinky Doo





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From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your 
> sound card.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play 
>> the
>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into 
>> winamp,
>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>> Sorry about this,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 Bruce,
 can you please explain how you achieved this?.
 Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
 goldwave
 and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
 If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
 project?.
 Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, 
 which
 is
 possible,
 Billy,
 Dinky Doo

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


 >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
 >track
 > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. 
 > There
 > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
 >
 > Bruce
 >
 > -- 
 > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
 > gave
 > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
 >
 > Bruce Toews
 > Skype ID: o.canada
 > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
 > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 > http://www.ogts.net
 > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 >
 > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
 >
 >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
 >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, 
 >> but
 >> I
 >> just can't get it to work.
 >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
 >> the
 >> mother board.
 >>
 >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
 >> Billy
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> - Original Message -
 >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
 >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
 >>
 >>
 >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my 
 >>> radio
 >>> shows
 >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
 >>>
 >>> Bruce
 >>>
 >>> --
 >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 >>> gave
 >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
 >>>
 >>> Bruce Toews
 >>> Skype ID: o.canada
 >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
 >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 >>> http://www.ogts.net
 >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.c

Re: Zenstone questions here folks!

2008-03-06 Thread James Scholes
Hi, here in the UK, we have both models, but the ZenStone will go up to 2 
gb, and the ZenStonePlus, as you say, will go up to 4 gb.
James Scholes
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Subject: Re: Zenstone questions here folks!

> hi.  The one everyone is talking about is the Zen Stone, which only
> holds 1 GB of storage.
> The Zen stone plus, has up to 4 GB of storage on its internal flash
> drive, a voice recorder, fm radio and a screen with menus that you'll
> have to memorize. so to get the one everyone is talking about here,
> get the original creative Zen Stone with no screen and only holds one
> GB. That's the one everyone's mentioning here.  The sandisc flash
> drive mentioned before is something completely different.
>
>
>
> At 06:17 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>>Hello,
>>Yes there is a flash drive that you can get to do what you are asking 
>>about.
>>It is called the San Disc U-3 4 gig.
>>You can get them from RadioShack.
>>They had a special on them when I got mine.
>>I only paid $29.95 for it when they were running the special.
>>But they usually run for about $50.
>>My best regards.
>>   John.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:06 PM
>>Subject: Zenstone questions here folks!
>>
>>
>> > Hi all, sort of been reading along the discussion of zenstone but so 
>> > far
>> > your not explaining which zentstone your useing. One might be saying 
>> > the
>> > zenstone which is the smaller version while the zenstone plus is 1GB 
>> > and
>> > those two might work different. I own both and I know there is a
>> > difference. The zenstone plus or the 1 gb is not as easy to use as the
>> > simple zenstone. The switch buttons on top are easier to use, but I do
>> > like the larger capacity. But from your discussions, I have learned 
>> > that
>> > you can fast forward now I got to go  chekc this out.
>> >
>> > Now, hey Wallmart has the zenstone 2 gb for $53 and the regular for 33.
>> > That so far is the best -price i have seen.
>> >
>> > How I use mine is like this: I have friends in Australia and they send 
>> > me
>> > some funds to create for them audio and pod casts, lessons, stories and
>> > so on. Instead of me just creating 20 cd's I just load up the zenstone
>> > and send it off in a small envelope and they downlod everthing, sell 
>> > the
>> > zenstone there and send me back the monies. TThis so far is working ok.
>> > My question is, is there a tiny flash drive that I might load up with
>> > .doc and mp3 files both and send, for less than the cost of a zenstone?
>> > Name, size and where to buy it would b neice.
>> > Is there anything better than the zenstone.
>> >
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Hi, its spelt "unsubscribe", not "unscribe", and even if you had spelt it 
correctly, which you didn't, you wouldn't have been unsubscribed. 
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Re: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Jerry,
You said that they can play WMA files as well as MP3 files.
But what I'm really asking is, can and will they except WMA lossless files 
without any problems?
  John.
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:49 AM
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> The Zenstone and the Zenstone Plus will play WMA and MP3 files. 
> That's
> it, no wave files or any other format.
> Any speakers will work with them.  Creative even makes a small battery
> powered speaker system for them but I've never seen it.
>
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Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello list members,
I went to:
http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing and 
restoring.
They are called DC-6 and DC7.
I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user friendly.
When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I thought to 
myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this software.
He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without any 
problems, but the rest of it had problems.
But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 and DC-7?
Thanks in advance.
  John.
PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your computer.
Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack system later 
on down the road.

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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Doc
Very cute Bruce.  Even better than the sesame street gig.

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- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> High Bruce,
> I like that, how did you get the 3 dimensional stereo sound?
> It is very seldom I hear that in an MP3 file.
>  John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
>> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>>
>> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to 
>>> return
>>> to
>>> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
>>> singing
>>> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't 
>>> worry
>>> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just 
>>> keep
>>> singing until you get it like you want.
>>>
>>> **
>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
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>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can 
 play
 the
 backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
 in
 goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
 winamp,
 and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
 singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
 Sorry about this,
 Billy



 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
> since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
> as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
> with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
> music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>> which
>> is
>> possible,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>> track
>>> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>>> There
>>> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave
>>>

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Doc
if you are using goldwave go into the goldwave control pannal (f11) control 
tab to volume
there should be a dialog box for mic.  You may have to do a few tests to get 
the correct volume.

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- Original Message - 
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Bruce, how do i set my record device to mic?,
> I have a Dell desktop computer, with on-board sound, and cannot for the 
> life
> of me find this option, or the what you hear option,
> Billy
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> You don't have to alt-tab back into Gold Wave. If you have your recording
>> device set to mike, then it doesn't matter what's playing over your
>> headphones, Gold Wave will be recording from the mike.
>>
>> bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
>>> the
>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are 
>>> in
>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>> winamp,
>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>> Sorry about this,
>>> Billy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
 Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
 vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, 
 since
 it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
 copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
 mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
 can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
 thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
 you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
 effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin 
 as
 it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice 
 with
 the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background 
 music
 as well.

 Bruce


 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce,
> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
> goldwave
> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
> project?.
> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
> which
> is
> possible,
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>> track
>> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>> There
>> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>>> but
>>> I
>>> just can't get it to work.
>>> I'm just wonder

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Doc
Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that feature 
so you willl need a program like total recorder.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix options,
>
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your
>> sound card.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
>>> the
>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are 
>>> in
>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>> winamp,
>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>> Sorry about this,
>>> Billy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
 Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
 vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, 
 since
 it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
 copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
 mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
 can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
 thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
 you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
 effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin 
 as
 it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice 
 with
 the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background 
 music
 as well.

 Bruce


 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce,
> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
> goldwave
> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
> project?.
> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
> which
> is
> possible,
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> >track
> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> > There
> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > -- 
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> > gave
> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
> >
> > Bruce Toews
> > Skype ID: o.canada
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > http://www.ogts.net
> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >
> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
> >> but
> >> I
> >> just can't get it to work.
> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
> >> the
> >> mother board.
> >>
> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
> >> Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >>
> >>
> >>> I use GW for everythi

RE: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread albert griffith
I have the one GB and  there's no radio with it and one isn't advertised
either. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:49 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone

Hi All, yes, the one gb has a radio in it. You just push the top left bar
twice down and the ridio goes on. You have to tune in by pressing the right
or left buttons off the center button and it works well.
The 2 gb is on sale or sells for $53 at WallMart  right now. The zenstone
plus 1 gb and the 2 gb do have screens but I just get around by prssing
buttons.
I like the smaller zenstone better because it has buttons instead of a bar
but it does not have the radio or the capacity!
I like them both and that is it for me.  
MMM
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:09:23 -0600 Christopher Chaltain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is a model of the Zen Stone with an FM radio, and it does have a 
> 2GB capacity, but it has a screen and a menu system on it that I've
> 
> heard isn't particularly accessible. I've also heard that there's a 
> 2GB version of the simple and screen less Zen Stone. I have a 1GB 
> version of the simple and screen less Zen Stone, and that's the one 
> I've been talking about and find so accessible.
> 
> aadorno1 wrote:
> > hi does this mp3 player have an FM radio and is there a 2 gig
> model.
> > thanks.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
> >
> >
> >   
> >> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as
> I usually
> >> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the
> product.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>
> >> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only
> get the
> >> firmware updat.  Thank you.
> >>
> >> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you
> information
> >>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a
> check
> >>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have
> and
> >>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate
> to
> >>> state there's no need for it.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
> >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>>
> >>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the
> zen
> >>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this
> is
> >>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no
> need
> >>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge
> the
> >>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the
> battery
> >>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and
> paste
> >>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste
> methods just
> >>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot
> easier than a
> >>>   
> >> lot of people might think.
> >> 
> >>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>>   
>  I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and
> Jawas
>  scripts. Please help.
>  Ketan Kothari
>  Phone: [r] 24223281,
>  Cell: 9987550614
>  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Skype ID: Ketan
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RE: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread albert griffith
No and yes. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of aadorno1
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone

hi does this mp3 player have an FM radio and is there a 2 gig model.
thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone


>I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I usually
> do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the product.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>
> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only get the
> firmware updat.  Thank you.
>
> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you information
>> you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's charged, a check
>> for updates feature, a read out on how much free space you have and
>> the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, it's not accurate to
>> state there's no need for it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
>>
>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen
>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is
>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no need
>> for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to charge the
>> unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge of the battery
>> takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can simply copy and paste
>> any music or audio books using traditional copy and paste methods just
>> like any other drive in windows explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
> lot of people might think.
>>
>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
>> >I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and Jawas
>> >scripts. Please help.
>> >Ketan Kothari
>> >Phone: [r] 24223281,
>> >Cell: 9987550614
>> >MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Skype ID: Ketan
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> --
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Sunshine
actually the newer sigmatel cards do have the stereo mix feature in them
- Original Message - 
From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that feature
> so you willl need a program like total recorder.
>
> **
> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>
>
> robert Doc Wright
> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> msn
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> Click to call me
> http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
>> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix 
>> options,
>>
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your
>>> sound card.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can 
 play
 the
 backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
 in
 goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
 winamp,
 and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
 singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
 Sorry about this,
 Billy



 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
> since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
> as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
> with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
> music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>> which
>> is
>> possible,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>> >track
>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>> > There
>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> > gave
>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>> >
>> > Bruce Toews
>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> > http://www.ogts.net
>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> >
>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>> >> but
>> >> I
>> >> just can't get it to work.
>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound 
>> >> on
>

RE: Creative ZenStone

2008-03-06 Thread albert griffith
It appears you don't need the start up pack unless you want to use it from
your computer to rip files, get automatic updates, ETC. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:40 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone

hi

Just out of curiocity, what's in the startup pack? Cause I'm thinking that
it might not even be necessary, i mean if you just wanna transfer files to
it. but then again maybe there's something I'm completely missing out on.


At 06:43 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>Yes the start up pack is what you're looking for. The file name is 
>ZENStone_PCApp_CLI_L4_1_00_08a.exe, and it's approximately 13.5MB.
>
>Ketan Kothari wrote:
> > how large is the file?  I get a startup pack is that it?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: Creative ZenStone
> >
> >
> >
> >> I no longer have the link.  I didn't store it in my favorites as I 
> >> usually do.  However, it's in the literature which came with the
product.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:51 AM
> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>
> >> Please help me with drrect link for the software as I could only 
> >> get the firmware updat.  Thank you.
> >>
> >> On 3/3/08, albert griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> While use of its software isn't essential it does give you 
> >>> information you wouldn't otherwise have. The degree to which it's 
> >>> charged, a check for updates feature, a read out on how much free 
> >>> space you have and the ability to rip tracks directly to it. so, 
> >>> it's not accurate to state there's no need for it.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:18 PM
> >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >>> Subject: Re: Creative ZenStone
> >>>
> >>> You really don't need any software or JAWS scripts to use the zen 
> >>> stone, in fact I really don't understand why people think this is 
> >>> necessary. If you have the one gig model, there is absolutely no 
> >>> need for any additional software. Simply use the USB cable to 
> >>> charge the unit when plugging it into the USB port, a full charge 
> >>> of the battery takes about 3 to 4 hours. After that, you can 
> >>> simply copy and paste any music or audio books using traditional 
> >>> copy and paste methods just like any other drive in windows 
> >>> explorer. It's a whole lot easier than a
> >>>
> >> lot of people might think.
> >>
> >>> At 09:32 AM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>>
>  I have jujst got Zenstone and am looking for the software and 
>  Jawas scripts. Please help.
>  Ketan Kothari
>  Phone: [r] 24223281,
>  Cell: 9987550614
>  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Skype ID: Ketan
> 
>  Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
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> >> --
> >> Ketan Kothari
> >> Phone: [r] 24223281,
> >> Cell: 9987550614
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> >>
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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.

Bruce
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened to 
> the fixed one? 
> 
> Curtis Delzer
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> 
> 
> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
> on the Dr. Demento Show:
> 
> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
> 
> Bruce
> 
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
> 
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> 
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
> 
> > Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to return 
> > to
> > it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your 
> > singing
> > you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't worry
> > about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just keep
> > singing until you get it like you want.
> >
> > **
> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
> >
> >
> > robert Doc Wright
> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> > msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Click to call me
> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >
> >
> >> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
> >> the
> >> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
> >> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into 
> >> winamp,
> >> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> >> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> >> Sorry about this,
> >> Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> >>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> >>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
> >>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> >>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> >>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> >>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> >>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> >>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> >>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
> >>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
> >>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
> >>> as well.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>  Bruce,
>  can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>  Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>  goldwave
>  and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>  If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>  project?.
>  Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, 
>  which
>  is
>  possible,
>  Billy,
>  Dinky Doo
> 
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: sound editing?
> 
> 
> > I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> > track
> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> > There
> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> > gave
> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
> >
> > Bruce Toews
> > Skype ID: o.canada
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly comme

Re: Foobar 2000

2008-03-06 Thread Tim Crawford
Brett,

Thanks a million for your description for  defining hot keys.  I've given it 
a quick try, and it seems to work for me, so think I'm on the right track. 
Will have to give some thought to the best key combinations to implement.

Cheers,

Tim.


- Original Message - 
From: "Brett Boyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Foobar 2000


>I saw that screen compatibility stuff but never actually found it. I think
> it was for an older version of foobar. Anyway let me see if I can explain
> the keyboard setup.
> Basically after you go into preferences on the file menu and open the
> general branch of the tree view, the new section is keyobard shortcuts or
> something. When you tab around you will hear the normal prefernces 
> buttons:
> save all, close, reset, whatever. Then you will se a list view, if you 
> arrow
> down you will hear some keystrokes and there descrpition with a bit of
> giberish betweeen every thing. Once you have highlighted any entry in this
> list by either arrowing down or pressing spacebar or whatever the rest of
> the dialog box will be revealed. If nothing get highlighted in this list 
> you
> will not see the rest of what I am talking about.
> Anyway, now that you have something highlighted you can tab to the add 
> then
> remove buttons. Now here comes the fun part the next time you hit tab you
> will see a tree view of all the commands foobar offers; context menu
> commands, menu bar commands, playlist commands, and more. When you find 
> the
> command you want tab once to the edit field and press your desired
> keystroke. Press shift tab till you find the add button. Now to check your
> work shift tab to the first listview and see if your keystroke and command
> have been added to the list.
> Well that is the short version. If you have trouble I can go through and
> give an example if you'd like. There might be other ways of doing this but
> this is how I've been d oing it, and remember I've only used this program
> for a few weeks now.
> Hope it helps
> bb
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tim Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>
>
>> Hi Brett,
>>
>> I've heard a lot of good things about foobar, so I guess I'll persevere
>> with
>> it for a bit.
>>
>> Could you possibly give me a quick description on how to define a hot 
>> key.
>>
>> Also, while looking around the net, I read something about a screen 
>> reader
>> compatibility setting.  Do you know if this is correct, and if so, where
>> in
>> the Foobar 2000 menu's it can be found.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brett Boyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>>
>>
>>>I haven't found it to be very accessible with WE. This might not be a 
>>>good
>>> program to use for you. I am a Window-eyes user and have been for over
>>> ten
>>> years, but I've got to hand it to JFW. Foobar, the first program I have
>>> seen
>>> that works without scripts! Believe it or not!
>>> If I could write set files for WE I'm sure I could make this program
>>> work.
>>> But I can't so I don't.
>>> The keyboard shortcuts have to be set up by the user. It's a simple
>>> process
>>> but kind of a tedious one. If you don't have the time I suggest moving
>>> on.
>>> Thanks
>>> bb
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Tim Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>>>
>>>
 Hi,

 I've downloaded the latest version, (0.9.5.1)  however it initially
 doesn't
 appear very accessible, at least with window-eyes.
 Are earlier versions more usable?  I've read something regarding a
 screen
 reader compatibility setting, but can't locate it in the programs
 preferences.

 Also wonder could anyone give me a list of the basic keyboard shortcuts
 for
 the main player controls.

 Many thanks,

 Tim.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:27 AM
 Subject: Re: Foobar 2000


> You can find it at www.foobar2000.org
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Foobar 2000
>
>
>> where is it available for download
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Nick G
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:58 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Foobar 2000
>>
>> FOobar2000 is an accessible and rat

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Curtis Delzer
Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened to 
the fixed one? 

Curtis Delzer
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
on the Dr. Demento Show:

http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3

Bruce

-- 
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV

Bruce Toews
Skype ID: o.canada
E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:

> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to return 
> to
> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your 
> singing
> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't worry
> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just keep
> singing until you get it like you want.
>
> **
> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>
>
> robert Doc Wright
> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> msn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Click to call me
> http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
>> the
>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into 
>> winamp,
>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>> Sorry about this,
>> Billy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 Bruce,
 can you please explain how you achieved this?.
 Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
 goldwave
 and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
 If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
 project?.
 Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, 
 which
 is
 possible,
 Billy,
 Dinky Doo

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> track
> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> There
> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>
>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>> but
>> I
>> just can't get it to work.
>> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>> the
>> mother board.
>>
>> Any h

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Mac Norins
Bruce,

Not to get too off topic here, but, what is Doctor Demento's web address?

Regards,

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.

Bruce
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened to
> the fixed one? 
>
> Curtis Delzer
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>
> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>
> > Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to 
> > return
> > to
> > it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
> > singing
> > you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't 
> > worry
> > about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just 
> > keep
> > singing until you get it like you want.
> >
> > **
> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
> >
> >
> > robert Doc Wright
> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> > msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Click to call me
> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >
> >
> >> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can 
> >> play
> >> the
> >> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are 
> >> in
> >> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
> >> winamp,
> >> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> >> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> >> Sorry about this,
> >> Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> >>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> >>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, 
> >>> since
> >>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> >>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> >>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> >>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> >>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> >>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> >>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin 
> >>> as
> >>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice 
> >>> with
> >>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background 
> >>> music
> >>> as well.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>  Bruce,
>  can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>  Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>  goldwave
>  and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>  If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>  project?.
>  Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>  which
>  is
>  possible,
>  Billy,
>  Dinky Doo
> 
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: sound editing?
> 
> 
> > I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> > track
> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> > There
> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed

RE: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Judy W

Unfortunately, I bought a dell laptop because they said they were still
using realtek audio and when I got it, the sigmatel audio (spelled wrong)
would not work correctly with line in or any of our microphones. I am
selling it. I need to record in the field and I need a good machine with mic
and line in.

Any suggestions for laptops I can use for sound recording and editing would
be appreciated...

Judy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doc
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: sound editing?


Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that feature
so you willl need a program like total recorder.

**
Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !


robert Doc Wright
http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
msn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Click to call me
http://me.vonage.com/robwright


- Original Message -
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix options,
>
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your
>> sound card.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play
>>> the
>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
>>> in
>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>> winamp,
>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>> Sorry about this,
>>> Billy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
 Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
 vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
 since
 it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
 copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
 mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
 can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
 thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
 you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
 effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
 as
 it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
 with
 the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
 music
 as well.

 Bruce


 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce,
> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
> goldwave
> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
> project?.
> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
> which
> is
> possible,
> Billy,
> Dinky Doo
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> >track
> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> > There
> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> > gave
> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
> >
> > Bruce Toews
> > Skype ID: o.canada
> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > http://www.ogts.net
> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >
> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
> >> I want to be able to record

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Do all drives have to have their offsets set?  How common is this?

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


That's a fair question. Easy CD DA Extractor comes very close but for
one thing, you cannot set the drive offsets so therefore you don't get
exact rips.

On 06/03/2008, at 2:48 PM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> I'm not trying to start an argument, just to be educated. What makes
> the
> quality of its rips better than, say, Easy CD-DA Extractor?
>
> bruce
>

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Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

2008-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
Some drives (such as many of the LG drives) have an offset of "0" so  
you don't need to worry.
On 06/03/2008, at 9:47 PM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

> Do all drives have to have their offsets set?  How common is this?

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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Since he's doing mostly online streaming nowadays, it's not too off-topic. 
www.drdemento.com.

bruce

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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Mac Norins wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Not to get too off topic here, but, what is Doctor Demento's web address?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
> LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
> see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.
>
> Bruce
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
>> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened to
>> the fixed one? 
>>
>> Curtis Delzer
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
>> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>>
>> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to
>>> return
>>> to
>>> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
>>> singing
>>> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't
>>> worry
>>> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just
>>> keep
>>> singing until you get it like you want.
>>>
>>> **
>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> msn
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Click to call me
>>> http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
 play
 the
 backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
 in
 goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
 winamp,
 and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
 singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
 Sorry about this,
 Billy



 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
> since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
> as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
> with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
> music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>> which
>> is
>> possib

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Mac Norins
Thanks for this!


- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


Since he's doing mostly online streaming nowadays, it's not too off-topic.
www.drdemento.com.

bruce

-- 
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV

Bruce Toews
Skype ID: o.canada
E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Mac Norins wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Not to get too off topic here, but, what is Doctor Demento's web address?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
> LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
> see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.
>
> Bruce
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
>> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened to
>> the fixed one? 
>>
>> Curtis Delzer
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
>> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>>
>> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to
>>> return
>>> to
>>> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
>>> singing
>>> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't
>>> worry
>>> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just
>>> keep
>>> singing until you get it like you want.
>>>
>>> **
>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> msn
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Click to call me
>>> http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
 Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
 play
 the
 backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
 in
 goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
 winamp,
 and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
 singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
 Sorry about this,
 Billy



 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
> since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
> as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
> with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
> music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they

Assistive Technology Show podcast feed URL

2008-03-06 Thread petrakigianos-giasou
http://feeds.atmaine.com/atshow


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Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Bruce,
I don't mean to get off topic here, but do you or anyone on this list know 
about an audio editor called DC6?
I'm asking because I am wondering how user friendly it mite be with Jaws and 
other screen readers.
There is a newer virgin of it out called DC-7.
I am also wondering about this one too as well.
Thanks in advance.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Since he's doing mostly online streaming nowadays, it's not too off-topic.
> www.drdemento.com.
>
> bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Mac Norins wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Not to get too off topic here, but, what is Doctor Demento's web address?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Mac-
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
>> see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.
>>
>> Bruce
>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
>>> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened 
>>> to
>>> the fixed one? 
>>>
>>> Curtis Delzer
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got 
>>> played
>>> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>>>
>>> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>>
 Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to
 return
 to
 it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
 singing
 you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't
 worry
 about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just
 keep
 singing until you get it like you want.

 **
 Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !


 robert Doc Wright
 http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
 msn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Click to call me
 http://me.vonage.com/robwright


 - Original Message -
 From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
 Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
> play
> the
> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
> in
> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
> winamp,
> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> Sorry about this,
> Billy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
>> since
>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. 
>> I
>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
>> as
>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) be

Re: sound editing?

2008-03-06 Thread Curtis Delzer
Oh hey, I know, and I knew, just want too, give you, a little cage, rattle. 
:)

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.

Bruce
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened to
> the fixed one? 
>
> Curtis Delzer
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got played
> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>
> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>
> > Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to 
> > return
> > to
> > it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
> > singing
> > you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't 
> > worry
> > about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just 
> > keep
> > singing until you get it like you want.
> >
> > **
> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
> >
> >
> > robert Doc Wright
> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
> > msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Click to call me
> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >
> >
> >> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can 
> >> play
> >> the
> >> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are 
> >> in
> >> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
> >> winamp,
> >> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> >> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> >> Sorry about this,
> >> Billy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> >>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> >>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, 
> >>> since
> >>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> >>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> >>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> >>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> >>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> >>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> >>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin 
> >>> as
> >>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice 
> >>> with
> >>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background 
> >>> music
> >>> as well.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>  Bruce,
>  can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>  Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>  goldwave
>  and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>  If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>  project?.
>  Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>  which
>  is
>  possible,
>  Billy,
>  Dinky Doo
> 
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: sound editing?
> 
> 
> > I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
> > track
> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
> > There
> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

2008-03-06 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi
As far as I'm aware DC6 and DC7 have no jaws scripts so far. In general 
however the program is pretty accessible by menus and tab around dialog 
boxes. It is excellent at noise reduction and excitement, giving hundreds of 
presets making it usable for us.
One drawback I found which I brought up with Tracertek was that the file was 
difficult to navigate, to select various portions etc. If you edit the file 
into pieces in for example Adobe Audition, Gold Wave, etc. then filter the 
appropriate parts in DC7 then it's fine. Ingeneral however I find I'm only 
cleaning whole files and therefore drop them into DC7 to filter as a whole.
Regards.
Gordon McFarlane
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From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


> Hello list members,
> I went to:
> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
> and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing and 
> restoring.
> They are called DC-6 and DC7.
> I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user 
> friendly.
> When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I thought to 
> myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this software.
> He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without any 
> problems, but the rest of it had problems.
> But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 and 
> DC-7?
> Thanks in advance.
>  John.
> PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
> Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your 
> computer.
> Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
> That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack system 
> later on down the road.
>
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Unusuall File Extensions

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High List members,
I am trying out DC-7 in demo mode, it's producing some weird file extensions.
I have a tape that's titled, DJ DOCTOR P's radio show.
But I'm seeing .ses and .pkf.
No media player that I have on my computer will play these files.
Can anyone tell me what this is about please?
Thanks in advance.
  John.

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Anyone using Mixpad with Jaws?

2008-03-06 Thread Norma A. Boge
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone is using Mixpad with Jaws.  I'm giving it 
a go and don't want to reinvent the wheel if someone has already 
found some work arounds for some of the stickier access issues.  I'm 
not looking for recommendations for other programs.  Thanks, Norma



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Re: Unusuall File Extensions

2008-03-06 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi
These are just your working files. DC7 makes them for ease of use - you 
should still have your original wav file, and if you save it as something 
else (another name) it will contain your latest alterations. The ses file is 
just the information for the session and the pkf file is info about the 
particular file which saves the program scanning the original file every 
time it is loaded.
Gordon
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From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:26 AM
Subject: Unusuall File Extensions


> High List members,
> I am trying out DC-7 in demo mode, it's producing some weird file 
> extensions.
> I have a tape that's titled, DJ DOCTOR P's radio show.
> But I'm seeing .ses and .pkf.
> No media player that I have on my computer will play these files.
> Can anyone tell me what this is about please?
> Thanks in advance.
>  John.
>
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Re: Unusuall File Extensions

2008-03-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello G,
Thank you for clearing that up for me!
I have never seen those before.
I guess it's something that I have to get use too, but so far, I like the 
software!
Maybe I'll stick with it.
I haven't figured out how to use the filters and noise reducers yet, but 
that will come in good time.
  John.
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Subject: Re: Unusuall File Extensions


> Hi
> These are just your working files. DC7 makes them for ease of use - you
> should still have your original wav file, and if you save it as something
> else (another name) it will contain your latest alterations. The ses file 
> is
> just the information for the session and the pkf file is info about the
> particular file which saves the program scanning the original file every
> time it is loaded.
> Gordon
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> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:26 AM
> Subject: Unusuall File Extensions
>
>
>> High List members,
>> I am trying out DC-7 in demo mode, it's producing some weird file
>> extensions.
>> I have a tape that's titled, DJ DOCTOR P's radio show.
>> But I'm seeing .ses and .pkf.
>> No media player that I have on my computer will play these files.
>> Can anyone tell me what this is about please?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>  John.
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Re: unscribe

2008-03-06 Thread Keith Gillard
Gees James Nothing gets buy you man!

Don't you leave that poison key board now for one minute! eh
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Hi, its spelt "unsubscribe", not "unscribe", and even if you had spelt it 
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Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

2008-03-06 Thread Larry N
Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with Jaws 
very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the DC7 demo? 
It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're required 
to either give it up or open your wallet.

An important note, DC7 offers more funcionality and from an accessibility 
standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it and just 
see what you can do with it.

Larry
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From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


> Hello list members,
> I went to:
> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
> and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing and 
> restoring.
> They are called DC-6 and DC7.
> I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user 
> friendly.
> When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I thought to 
> myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this software.
> He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without any 
> problems, but the rest of it had problems.
> But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 and 
> DC-7?
> Thanks in advance.
>  John.
> PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
> Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your 
> computer.
> Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
> That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack system 
> later on down the road.
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Re: Unusual File Extensions

2008-03-06 Thread Curtis Delzer
Brain fart here, what id dc7?
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Unusuall File Extensions


Hello G,
Thank you for clearing that up for me!
I have never seen those before.
I guess it's something that I have to get use too, but so far, I like the
software!
Maybe I'll stick with it.
I haven't figured out how to use the filters and noise reducers yet, but
that will come in good time.
  John.
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From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: Unusuall File Extensions


> Hi
> These are just your working files. DC7 makes them for ease of use - you
> should still have your original wav file, and if you save it as something
> else (another name) it will contain your latest alterations. The ses file
> is
> just the information for the session and the pkf file is info about the
> particular file which saves the program scanning the original file every
> time it is loaded.
> Gordon
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:26 AM
> Subject: Unusuall File Extensions
>
>
>> High List members,
>> I am trying out DC-7 in demo mode, it's producing some weird file
>> extensions.
>> I have a tape that's titled, DJ DOCTOR P's radio show.
>> But I'm seeing .ses and .pkf.
>> No media player that I have on my computer will play these files.
>> Can anyone tell me what this is about please?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>  John.
>>
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