actually the newer sigmatel cards do have the stereo mix feature in them
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that feature
> so you willl need a program like total recorder.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
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>
>> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
>> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix 
>> options,
>>
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your
>>> sound card.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can 
>>>> play
>>>> the
>>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
>>>> in
>>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>>> winamp,
>>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>>> Sorry about this,
>>>> Billy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
>>>>> since
>>>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>>>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
>>>>> as
>>>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
>>>>> with
>>>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
>>>>> music
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -0000, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>>>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>>>>> goldwave
>>>>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>>>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>>>>> project?.
>>>>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>> Billy,
>>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>>>>> >track
>>>>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>>>>>> > There
>>>>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bruce
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -- 
>>>>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>>>>> > gave
>>>>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bruce Toews
>>>>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>> > http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>>>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>>>>>> >> but
>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>>>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound 
>>>>>> >> on
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> mother board.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>>>>> >> Billy
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my
>>>>>> >>> radio
>>>>>> >>> shows
>>>>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Bruce
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, 
>>>>>> >>> he
>>>>>> >>> gave
>>>>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>>>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just
>>>>>> >>>> started
>>>>>> >>>> donig
>>>>>> >>>> this sometime last year.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>> >>>> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> >>>> skype: marrie1
>>>>>> >>>> Website;
>>>>>> >>>> www.marrie.org
>>>>>> >>>> To check out my podcast go to
>>>>>> >>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>>>> >>>> For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast
>>>>>> >>>> check
>>>>>> >>>> out
>>>>>> >>>> http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>>>>>> >>>> "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah
>>>>>> >>>> well
>>>>>> >>>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". The
>>>>>> >>>> Sound
>>>>>> >>>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it
>>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>>> >>>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of
>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>> >>>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a while
>>>>>> >>>> since
>>>>>> >>>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced either.
>>>>>> >>>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features
>>>>>> >>>> available
>>>>>> >>>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors onboard.
>>>>>> >>>>> There's
>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking
>>>>>> >>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>>> simple
>>>>>> >>>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to
>>>>>> >>>>> understand
>>>>>> >>>>> and set
>>>>>> >>>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins
>>>>>> >>>>> hands
>>>>>> >>>>> down.
>>>>>> >>>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any 
>>>>>> >>>>> piece
>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>> >>>>> software
>>>>>> >>>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss
>>>>>> >>>>> reduction
>>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its manual
>>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>> >>>>> difficult
>>>>>> >>>>> to use with speech.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I
>>>>>> >>>>> probably
>>>>>> >>>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance,
>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>> >>>>> Forge
>>>>>> >>>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited from
>>>>>> >>>>> what
>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure,
>>>>>> >>>>> nor
>>>>>> >>>>> am I
>>>>>> >>>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with
>>>>>> >>>>> keyboard
>>>>>> >>>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none 
>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>> >>>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is
>>>>>> >>>>> worth
>>>>>> >>>>> its hefty
>>>>>> >>>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded
>>>>>> >>>>> file,
>>>>>> >>>>> such as
>>>>>> >>>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and
>>>>>> >>>>> extraneous
>>>>>> >>>>> noise,
>>>>>> >>>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this
>>>>>> >>>>> group
>>>>>> >>>>> can do
>>>>>> >>>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I can
>>>>>> >>>>> edit a
>>>>>> >>>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly 
>>>>>> >>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>>> using Sound
>>>>>> >>>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio 
>>>>>> >>>>> restoration
>>>>>> >>>>> feature
>>>>>> >>>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to an
>>>>>> >>>>> entire file.
>>>>>> >>>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not
>>>>>> >>>>> getting
>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>> most from the program.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a
>>>>>> >>>>> copy,
>>>>>> >>>>> but to
>>>>>> >>>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my first
>>>>>> >>>>> audio editor
>>>>>> >>>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would
>>>>>> >>>>> choose
>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps you in some small way.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Larry
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:02 AM
>>>>>> >>>>> Subject: sound editing?
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>> >>>>>> what is the best sound editing software on the market today?.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> What is the basic differences between Gold Wave & SoundForge?,
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and
>>>>>> >>>>>> which
>>>>>> >>>>>> is more
>>>>>> >>>>>> speech friendly?,
>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
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