What makes an editor professional is determined by the skill of the person 
doing the editing.  If you haven't a clue on what to listen for, remove or 
enhance, I don't care how many bells and whistles a particular editing 
program may have you're going to get poor to mediocre quality.  You are 
going to have to scrape your ears a while to get what you have decided is 
good to excellant quality.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I know I'm going to regret this, but what makes an editor a professional
> one in your personal opinion?
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:19:01 -0500, "Gary G Schindler"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> I wouldn't push goldwave as a professional audio editor, powerful yes,
>> professional no. your example of Amadeus Pro is an excellent example of
>> what can
>> be done at an affordable price.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> That's been my point all along, you get what you pay for. Yes ok,
>> Amadeus Pro at $40.00 has some really excellent noise reduction stuff
>> which is comparible to the competition but even supposing Amadeus Pro
>> didn't have these excellent noise removal tools? Well in my view, the
>> software would still be an absolute bargain, GoldWave and Amadeus Pro
>> are advertised as "audio editors" and where does it say anywhere that
>> Noise reduction has to be part of an audio editor?
>> As I and others have said before, the great thing about Goldwave,
>> Amadeus Pro, Sound Forge, Total Recorder, Sonar and others is that you
>> can use other plug-ins with the product so if you don't like what
>> Goldwave has to offer in the form of Noise Reduction, Graphic EQ or
>> whatever then by all means! by a third party plug-in to solve the
>> problem and (strange as it may seem) if you buy Goldwave then you
>> certainly are given a lot of change to purchase other plug-ins <smile>.
>> I myself use a lot of Third Party plug-ins, I used them with Sound
>> Gorge but now I'll most likely be using them with Goldwave as I found
>> them to be far more accessible with a screen reader, I detailed them
>> before some time ago on this list, a whole heap of equalisers,
>> filters, flangers, echo units, compressors and the like which (once
>> again) are absolutely compatible with anything which will handle direx
>> plug-ins.
>>
>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:35 PM, constantine (on laptop) wrote:
>>
>> > So seriously, I'm finding this a bit insulting. You expect gold
>> > wave, priced
>> > at 29 bucks, to do what sound forge does huh? Well, sound forge is
>> > about 400
>> > plus, and honestly, only a millionare could afford it. Not to
>> > mention, if
>> > you don't like gw's noise reduction features, use audacity, as
>> > someone on
>> > here already stated, its features in terms of noise reduction are
>> > better
>> > than gw.
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
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>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:10 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
>> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
>> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>> >
>> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >
>> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>> >> a soundforge
>> >> like editing capability.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
>> >> you
>> >> expect, its a steal.
>> >>
>> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> >>> reduction isn't very
>> >>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> >>> like the Diamond
>> >>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> >>> blind person was
>> >>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> >>> some kind of
>> >>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> >>> I am going to
>> >>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> >>> things too, but
>> >>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> >>> thought it could be
>> >>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> >>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot
>> >>> of
>> >>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>> >>> Sound
>> >>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> >>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> >>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> >>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> >>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal <damn!> but if its a fair price then
>> >>> I'll save to purchase this.
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