Re: Folders don't display "new" status/Signing messages

2000-02-03 Thread Telsa Gwynne

On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 03:04:17PM -0800 or thereabouts, Joshua Haberman wrote:
> For some reason, mutt fails to display the "N" next to folders with new
> messages in them on the folder index. The default folder_format string
> begins with %N and should do the trick, and I additionally tried
> manually setting the folder_format to include a %N but to no avail: no
> N ever appears.

I have intermittent problems with this kind of thing. It's not total:
sometimes some folders in the file browser have N and others don't,
although they both appear to have had new email in them recently
enough that mutt should have picked up on them. I hadn't posted it
because I can't provide much of a clearer explanation than that
and I can't narrow it down: but it's not just you :)

As you say, the N is displayed correctly by messages when I'm looking 
at a particular mailbox. It's the file browser that's odd.

Only thing I have particularly noticed is that it is less common
when I start mutt: it seems to get it right then. It's more noticeable
when I have, as is my habit, left mutt running in a window and new
mail has arrived and procmail has put it in places whilst mutt is
still running.

Dunno on your netiquette question :)

Telsa



Re: Save-hook question

2000-02-03 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin

Hello!
You seem to be using the compressed folders patch?
I'll look into it.

Quoting r. Stewart V. Wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Save-hook question":
> Hi all,
>  ...
> As a second question - how can I convince mutt that there is new mail
> in compressed folders?  I have procmail deliver some mail to
> compressed folders.  Then in my .muttrc I have
> 
> mailboxes ! +'aip.gz' "+majordomo.gz" +mutt.gz
> 
> and none of these seems to allow mutt to determine that there is new
> mail in the compressed file.  Any ideas / suggestions?

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Re: Folders don't display "new" status/Signing messages

2000-02-03 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Jim Breton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 03 Feb 2000:
> Sorry to piggyback on your post, but this brings up a question I have
> about this definition.  Is it possible to specify "all mailboxes in my
> $folder directory?"

Yes, use something like:

  mailboxes `echo ~/mail/*`


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Re: Folders don't display "new" status/Signing messages

2000-02-03 Thread Randall J . Million

> Sorry to piggyback on your post, but this brings up a question I have
> about this definition.  Is it possible to specify "all mailboxes in my
> $folder directory?"
> 
> None of them worked.  Can it be done?

Yes. ie,

mailboxes =Inbox `echo $HOME/Mail/l/*`

randy

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Regular Expressions Question

2000-02-03 Thread Randall J . Million


What is the difference between these two commands?

set quote_regexp="^[ \t]*[A-Z]{,3}[~|>:}#%]"
set quote_regexp="^[ \t]*[A-Z]{0,3}[~|>:}#%]"

According to what I read in the manual, they should be equivalent, the
first being preferred. But, the first command does not give the expected
output. Is it my understanding that is flawed in this?

Section 4.1 (Excerpt)
{,m}   The preceding item is matched at most m times. 
{n,m}  The preceding item is matched at least n times, but no more than m
   times. 

randy

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Highlight search expression in pager.

2000-02-03 Thread Morten Bo Johansen


I don't know if I have missed something but isn't it possible to
have search expressions highlighted in Mutt's own pager when you
search in article bodies from an index, like they are when you
perform a search from within the pager itself? To make myself
clear - if I search like ~b foo all matches of foo will stand out
highlighed once I enter the pager on a matching message making
them easy to single out from the rest of the text.

If it's not currently possible, then there goes a suggestion for
a new feature - though it may not be easy to implement..?




Morten



turning off autoview on Mutt 0.93.2

2000-02-03 Thread Rob Bringman

Hello,

I've searched the archives and I find many people wanting to autoview
their attachments.  I however, would like *not* to autoview
attachments, because when I get an HTML-based spam mail, it makes it
difficult to view the headers.

I would like to know if there is a way to disable this feature with
Mutt 0.93.2.  I am not the admin of the machine it is running on, so I
hope the only answer is not "upgrade".

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Re: Save-hook question

2000-02-03 Thread David DeSimone

Stewart V. Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>fcc-save-hook  ~A  +People/%O.gz
> 
> However, recently one of my correspondents has had their email name
> changed to all capitals, so now rather than being saved in
>People/personx.gz
> mutt wants to create
>People/PERSONX.gz

Someone created a patch that will cause the following expanded text to
be lower-cased if you use the "_" prefix.  Like so:

fcc-save-hook   ~A  +People/%_O.gz

However, I cannot recall if this is standard behavior now, or if it
still requires a patch.  The behavior *is* in the version that I'm using
(or at least, it's in the manual), but I am using the development
version of Mutt, 1.1.

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Fwd: Setting From when replying

2000-02-03 Thread Dav Coleman

I receive mail at many email addresses, but they all get forwarded
to the same address.

For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What I want is for mutt to set the From: field when I reply to a message
to the same address as the To: field in the original message.

As it is now, if you send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I reply, the reply
will be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want the reply field to instead to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have tried using send-hook, but there does not
seem to be a pattern that corresponds to the original To: field for matching.

Shirley someone else has been in a similar situation and already solved this!

Thanks for any advice,
Dav Coleman



Re: Setting From when replying

2000-02-03 Thread David DeSimone

Dav Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What I want is for mutt to set the From: field when I reply to a message
> to the same address as the To: field in the original message.

There is a 'reverse_name' option you can enable to do this.

You will need to make sure that your 'alternates' setting matches all
the different addresses you can receive mail as, so that Mutt can tell
which To: lines refer to you, and which do not.

Something like this should work:

set alternates='^((dav|two)@abc\.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$'

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From and mail editor question

2000-02-03 Thread Jason Helfman

When receiving a msg, I have two From lines, one is tagged, From and the
other is From:

how can i ignore From ?

also is their a way to start writing an email, invoking default m key,
to go right to insert mode on the 2nd body line of my default editor of
vi?



Re: Setting From when replying

2000-02-03 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Dav Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 03 Feb 2000:
> What I want is for mutt to set the From: field when I reply to a message
> to the same address as the To: field in the original message.

You should set the variable $reverse_name in your .muttrc.  Make sure
your alternates settings are correct.  More documentation can be found
in the manual...
 
> Shirley someone else has been in a similar situation and already solved this!

You got that right. :-)


Regards,
Mikko
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Re: From and mail editor question

2000-02-03 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Jason Helfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 03 Feb 2000:
> how can i ignore From ?

  ignore 'from '

... in your .muttrc.

> also is their a way to start writing an email, invoking default m key,
> to go right to insert mode on the 2nd body line of my default editor of
> vi?

That's more of a vi question (which flavour of vi? they have different
scripting setups), but the method to do is to set up your $editor so
that vi will be started with instructions to start on the 2nd line of
the body.  What those instructions are, and how they are told to vi,
depend on the specifics of which vi you're using.

I've seen people post vim macros etc. on this list before, at least,
so others have done it.  (Maybe they can help you more...)


Regards,
Mikko
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Re: Setting From when replying

2000-02-03 Thread John R. Sheets

On Thursday, February 03, 2000, David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Something like this should work:
> 
> set alternates='^((dav|two)@abc\.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$'

I think you missed a couple '\'...

 set alternates='^((dav|two)@abc\.com|dav@foobar\.com|code@xyz\.com)$'

John

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Re: turning off autoview on Mutt 0.93.2

2000-02-03 Thread Jeff Abrahamson

On Thu, Feb 03, 2000 at 11:15:07AM -0500, Rob Bringman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've searched the archives and I find many people wanting to autoview
> their attachments.  I however, would like *not* to autoview
> attachments, because when I get an HTML-based spam mail, it makes it
> difficult to view the headers.
> 
> I would like to know if there is a way to disable this feature with
> Mutt 0.93.2.  I am not the admin of the machine it is running on, so I
> hope the only answer is not "upgrade".

Don't know the answer, but if you decide to upgrade, just do

./configure --prefix=$HOME/local

or some such, then put ~/local/bin in $PATH, ~/local/lib in
$LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc.

Not being admin doesn't mean you can't build stuff. Or maybe I
misunderstand you.

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New reply/signature above the quoted mail

2000-02-03 Thread Subba Rao


When I reply, the orginal mail's content gets quoted followed by
the signature, and the cursor is set on the first line above the
quoted reply. There was some discussion in the past that the old
mail should be followed by the new.

Has anyone implemented automatic solution to include the new
mail+signature at the top followed by the quoted reply?

What is the current recommended approach to reply formats?

Thank you in advance.

Subba Rao
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Re: New reply/signature above the quoted mail

2000-02-03 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 03 Feb 2000:
> Has anyone implemented automatic solution to include the new
> mail+signature at the top followed by the quoted reply?

Mutt (deliberately) doesn't support this, not even as an option.  To
get Mutt behave like that would require patching.  I don't know of
any such patch, though likely it would be simple to do.

> What is the current recommended approach to reply formats?

IMHO, you quote the text you are replying to -- the relevant
portion of it, I mean.  After that you write your own reply.  If you
wish to address a different point from the original email, you quote
that, and then write your reply below.  And so on.  This way, the
reader can follow exactly what you are replying to.

Naturally, any quoted text that is *not* replied to and which is not
relevant for the reply, should be deleted.

That's exactly like I've done in this email. :-)




Unfortunately the Windows (or graphical? to avoid Windows-antibias)
email clients don't quite follow this line of thinking in their editors.
I can understand the logic that "your own text should be placed in front
of the reply, because the person is not interested in seeing the
original text, rather than your text" -- however why include the
original message at all, in that case?  The idea is to give a reference
for your words (eg. if you say "I agree").  And for that, a
point-reply-point-reply order is best.



Regards,
Mikko
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moving mail to other folder after it's read...

2000-02-03 Thread Ben Beuchler

When I first started using mutt, all of 3 days ago, I was using the latest
stable release... 1.01 I believe.  Anyway, I was able to set it up so that when
I closed mutt, it copied all of the mail I had completed reading into a
different folder.  Now I am playing with the 1.1.2 release and it doesn't seem
to be working anymore.

Do I need to do configure it differently under the newer version to accomplish
the same thing?

Incidentally, I'm using IMAP folders if it matters...

Thanks,
Ben



group reply problem

2000-02-03 Thread Jeffery Small


I posted this a week or so ago and got no response, so I thought I would
try again with a different (and hopefully more appropriate) subject line.

I am using mutt 1.0i and am have a problem with group reply.  In my .muttrc
file I have remapped the g and ^G keys as follows:

bind  generic   "g" first-entry
bind  attach"g" first-entry
bind  index "g" first-entry
bind  pager "g" top

bind  index "\cg"   group-reply
bind  pager "\cg"   group-reply

When I am in the index or pager and type ? it reports:

^G  group-replyreply to all recipients

However, when I type ^G nothing happens.  I am running mutt in an xterm
window on a Sun/Solaris7/OpenWindows platform.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to what might be wrong?

Thanks.
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Setting From when replying

2000-02-03 Thread Dav Coleman

I receive mail at many email addresses, but they all get forwarded
to the same address.

For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What I want is for mutt to set the From: field when I reply to a message
to the same address as the To: field in the original message.

As it is now, if you send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I reply, the reply
will be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want the reply field to instead to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have tried using send-hook, but there does not
seem to be a pattern that corresponds to the original To: field for matching.

Shirley someone else has been in a similar situation and already solved this!

Thanks for any advice,
Dav Coleman


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Re: New reply/signature above the quoted mail

2000-02-03 Thread Duncan Watson


On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 02:51:25AM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately the Windows (or graphical? to avoid Windows-antibias)
> email clients don't quite follow this line of thinking in their editors.
> I can understand the logic that "your own text should be placed in front
> of the reply, because the person is not interested in seeing the
> original text, rather than your text" -- however why include the
> original message at all, in that case?  The idea is to give a reference
> for your words (eg. if you say "I agree").  And for that, a
> point-reply-point-reply order is best.
> 
> 

Mikko, 
First let me say I agree with your premise and also believe that it is the
best way BUT there is some justification.

When in a business environment and you are having a discussion with person A
back and forth for some time.  Then at some point you need to ask person B to
take care of something regarding the messages to person A.  You reply to
person A's latest mail and Cc: B with the instructions.

Personally I hate the method because it assumes too much and person B almost
invariably is forced to email you to get more instructions or details.  I
believe that people should be forced to write messages with the correct
details as they are currently.  What I mean is that the email should contain
enough information to act on it.  But Lotus Notes, Groupwise, and
Exchange/Outlook make the lazy way easy.

/Duncan
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 PGP signature


Re: group reply problem - cannot bind CTRL-G

2000-02-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Jeffery Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000204 01:20]:
> In my .muttrc file I have remapped the g and ^G keys as follows:
> When I am in the index or pager and type ? it reports:
>   ^G  group-replyreply to all recipients
> However, when I type ^G nothing happens.

The ^G is used to abort commands.  Feature.

> Does anyone have a suggestion as to what might be wrong?

Your sig has TabDamage.

Sven



Problem verifying gpg signatures with pgp

2000-02-03 Thread Jim Breton

I'm using gpg 1.0.0 with the IDEA and RSA modules loaded.  It was all
compiled from source.

Same goes for PGP 5.01.

With GPG as my "pgp_default_version" I have no problem decrypting
and verifying signatures and messages made by either GPG or PGP.

When I use PGP with mutt however (pgp_default_version = pgp5), I can
decrypt/verify PGP messages fine, and even decrypt GPG messages.  But
verifying signatures gives me a "Bad signature from..." error.

FWIW, I think the problem is caused somewhere in the signing (not in the
verification) stage.  I say this because if I pipe the GPG-signed
message to "pgpv" it still fails.

I wouldn't have posted this to the mutt list, except this only is a
problem for me in Mutt -- when I sign a file with GPG in a shell, I can
verify it fine with PGP.  Only when signing from within Mutt does it
appear broken.

Does anyone have any insight into what may be going on?



Re: New reply/signature above the quoted mail

2000-02-03 Thread Jon Parise

On Thu, Feb 03, 2000 at 06:13:53PM -0500, Subba Rao wrote:

> What is the current recommended approach to reply formats?

I, personally, can't stand it when someone replies above the quoted
text.  It makes it difficult to follow the flow of the discussion.
The only time I really find that acceptable is when the message is
a forward of another discussion.

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Overlapping aliases

2000-02-03 Thread Larry Lipstone

OK, I'm prepared to be ashamed of a FAQ/RTFM, but I made a good-faith
effort to find this one and couldn't.

I am using Mutt 1.0i.  I have about 50 aliases in a file separate from my
.muttrc, which are read in via a source command.

When I define two aliases where the second completely overlaps the
first, something funny happens.  E.g.:

alias joe   Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
alias joe.jones Joe Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This results in mutt knowing just one alias, the shorter one (joe in
this case) but whose value is the value from the longer one (Joe Jones
in this case).

Is this a bug?

TIA,

L



Re: Regular Expressions Question

2000-02-03 Thread Eugene Lee

On Thu, Feb 03, 2000 at 09:20:58AM -0500, Randall J . Million wrote:
:
:What is the difference between these two commands?
:
:set quote_regexp="^[ \t]*[A-Z]{,3}[~|>:}#%]"
:set quote_regexp="^[ \t]*[A-Z]{0,3}[~|>:}#%]"
:
:According to what I read in the manual, they should be equivalent, the
:first being preferred. But, the first command does not give the expected
:output. Is it my understanding that is flawed in this?
:
:Section 4.1 (Excerpt)
:{,m}   The preceding item is matched at most m times. 
:{n,m}  The preceding item is matched at least n times, but no more than m
:   times. 

Does "{,m}" mean "{0,m}" or "{1,m}"?  I don't know; I haven't looked at
the source to tell.


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