Re: Premail with Mutt

[David DeSimone]

Stefan `Sec` Zehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think "./configure --enable-exact-address" does what you want :)

Is there some reason that this needs to be a compile-time option, rather
than a configurable setting?

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Does MUTT support command line interface

[Kevin Arnold]

All,

  I have a program that currently uses sendmail. I want to be able to send 
attachments so I was thinking about switching to MUTT. The program, 
however, sends the mail using a perl scriptso it is done through a CLI. 
Can I do the same thing with MUTT but with the attachment feature?

Thanks,
Kevin

Re: Does MUTT support command line interface

[Martin Keseg - Sun Slovakia - SE]

Kevin Arnold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :

> All,
> 
>   I have a program that currently uses sendmail. I want to be able to send 
> attachments so I was thinking about switching to MUTT. The program, 
> however, sends the mail using a perl scriptso it is done through a CLI. 
> Can I do the same thing with MUTT but with the attachment feature?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin

Hi,

I don't know if I'm understand correctly, but my answer is echo "body of mail"
| mutt -a attachment -s subject recipient.
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Re: Does MUTT support command line interface

[Gero Treuner]

On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 06:34:06PM -0500, Kevin Arnold wrote:
>   I have a program that currently uses sendmail. I want to be able to send 
> attachments so I was thinking about switching to MUTT. The program, 
> however, sends the mail using a perl scriptso it is done through a CLI. 
> Can I do the same thing with MUTT but with the attachment feature?

Quoting the manual page:

SYNOPSIS
   mutt  [-hnpRvxyzZ] [-a file] [-b address] [-c address] [-e
   command] [-f  mailbox]  [-F  muttrc]  [-H  draftfile]  [-i
   include] [-m type] [-s subject]

OPTIONS
 ...
   -a file
  Attach a file to your message using MIME.
 ...


Gero

Re: Columns in folder list

[Chris Green]

On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 07:49:44PM +0200, Jimmy Mäkelä wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 11:31:19AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > I think this would be an excellent improvement!  The current 'folders'
> > display is just a directory listing in a unix'ish format by default
> > (is it customisable?), this provides lots of information which is
> 
> Yes.  See the section about folder_format in the manual. If you only
> wanted the folders number and name you would use 'set folder_format="%2C
> %f"'
> 
Aha, thanks, a great improvement!

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Re: IMAP folder listing

[Chris Green]

On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 06:11:28PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> This came up a little bit ago here or on mutt-dev. I'm working on doing
> a nicer version of IMAP browsing. What's happening is you're using a
> server that allows folders to contain both messages and subfolders
> (Cyrus?) - so the folders appear twice. The one with a trailing
> delimiter is there so you can browse subfolders, and the one without is
> there so you can see its messages. What we'll probably do is have
> folders appear once with markers for whether they can contain subfolders
> and/or messages, and add a second key for selecting mailboxes instead of
> browsing subfolders if you can do both for a single mailbox...

OK, thanks for the explanation, I must admit I hadn't noticed the
trailing . on every other folder when I first looked.  It's news to me
that the IMAP4 server I'm using allows a hierarchy of folders, I must
try it out!  :-)

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Re: IMAP4 facilities in latest development versions of mutt

[Chris Green]

On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 06:19:45PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> > 2 - When it asked for my password it was for
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mailandnews.co.uk which is not my user name
> > at mailandnews.co.uk! :-)
> 
> Are you doing
> set [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
> Mutt just sticks the hostname at the end as a way to tell you where
> you're logging in. Everything from the last @ on isn't actually sent
> out. I guess mutt could detect if there was an @ in the username and not
> display the rest, but that's hackish and not robust. Maybe it just needs
> different formatting.
> 
The server is odd in that my user name is '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
not just 'cgreen', I can live with it anyway as I don't have to enter
my password now.

> > 3 - Why does it re-read the IMAP folder *every* time I do something?
> > This makes it nearly unusable except when the internet is at its very
> > best and fastest.  It also reports that the folder has been externally
> > modified every time I do something.
> 
> There are a large number of speed enhancements that arrived after 96.6,
> unfortunately. But you may find setting imap_checkinterval to some
> non-zero number (say 90) helps tremendously. In the next dev release,
> this will be the default.
> 
OK, yes it does, thanks.

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Re: Best 'unstable' version for IMAP and how to build it

[Chris Green]

On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 05:38:30PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
> Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > That's what I expected to be able to do but if you download the
> > unstable snapshot there isn't a ./configure with it so you're stuffed!
> 
> I don't download the snapshot.  At least, I don't think it's a snapshot.
> 
> > Where can I get a mutt 0.96.xx with a ./configure with it?
> 
> ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/devel/mutt-0.96.6i.tar.gz  ?
> 
Yes, that's where I have got to in the end!  Phew!  The snapshots
don't have ./configure with them but the devel tarballs do, how
confusing (well, to me anyway!).

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Re: Best 'unstable' version for IMAP and how to build it

[Lars Hecking]

> > > Where can I get a mutt 0.96.xx with a ./configure with it?
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/devel/mutt-0.96.6i.tar.gz  ?
> > 
> Yes, that's where I have got to in the end!  Phew!  The snapshots
> don't have ./configure with them but the devel tarballs do, how
> confusing (well, to me anyway!).

 The instructions in doc/devel-notes.txt are quite clear.

How to move IMAP folders?

[Chris Green]

Is it possible to move IMAP4 folders using mutt?  This is a
fundamental need with any MUA using IMAP4 as the MUA may be the only
way one has of interacting with the server.

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Re: Columns in folder list

[Chris Green]

On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 12:00:10PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 07:49:44PM +0200, Jimmy Mäkelä wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 11:31:19AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > > I think this would be an excellent improvement!  The current 'folders'
> > > display is just a directory listing in a unix'ish format by default
> > > (is it customisable?), this provides lots of information which is
> > 
> > Yes.  See the section about folder_format in the manual. If you only
> > wanted the folders number and name you would use 'set folder_format="%2C
> > %f"'
> > 
> Aha, thanks, a great improvement!
> 
But it's still only a single column so doesn't really help all that
much, I still can't see more than 20 or so folder names on a screen.

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POP and outgoing SMTP

[Carl Johan Madestrand]

Hi

I think i didnt explain myself pretty well in my last mail.
What i  really meant, is there any way to specify my ISP's mail server
in mutt as an outgoing SMTP server, as i can do in other mail clients
like Netscape for example?

Thanks :)

Re: POP and outgoing SMTP

[Mikko Hänninen]

Carl Johan Madestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 1999:
> What i  really meant, is there any way to specify my ISP's mail server
> in mutt as an outgoing SMTP server, as i can do in other mail clients
> like Netscape for example?

The short answer is "no".

The longer answer is still no, Mutt uses a local program to act as
MTA.  Usually this is sendmail, but you can in theory use any program.
Normally sendmail is already installed on any system, by the sysadmin
or maybe commonly with the initial OS installation.  If there is no
MTA of any kind on your system (or it's not properly configured), you
can get a simple one called sSMTP from
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/mail/mta/

See http://www.mutt.org/links.html#other for more information.


Mikko
(borrowing heavily from a recent email by Jeremy Blosser)
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Re: POP and outgoing SMTP

[Fairlight]

On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 02:03:30PM +0200, Carl Johan Madestrand thus spoke:
> Hi
> 
> I think i didnt explain myself pretty well in my last mail.
> What i  really meant, is there any way to specify my ISP's mail server
> in mutt as an outgoing SMTP server, as i can do in other mail clients
> like Netscape for example?
> 
> Thanks :)

Hullo again...

Actually, you explained yourself quite well, and as Jeremy, I, and one
other person mentioned, no, it cannot be done.  You require an MTA.  Either
a regular one configured to forward to a "smart-host" (your ISP's mail
server), or something like what Jeremy mentioned...which is listed under
the "other utilities" somewhere on www.mutt.org (I don't have that message
in front of me), which would be a tiny MTA...basically a forwarder.

Mutt does not perform MTA actions as the result of a design decision
they've stated...basically letting Mutt be an MUA, not an MTA.

(Personally, I think POP support should just be nuked entirely considering
how many people assume that "because Netscape et al do POP, and they can
send mail out, Mutt should be able to!".)

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Re: german letters in iso-8859-1 Code

[Joshua Weage]

Maybe your currently selected font doesn't have those 
characters?  I see this in netscape every once and awhile,
but I've since switched to a truetype font server.
However, I still used the 'fixed' font in my terminals
and I can see the umlaut and esset characters just fine.

Josh


> > But there´s one problem I couldn´t find a solution for till now.
> > 
> > My charset is set to iso-8859-1. But if I receive a mail with
> > german letters like äöüß in it, this letters always just shown as
> > ? in the pager.


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reply-to-all?

[Thomas Schoepf]

Hi,


often, I receive emails with several recipients CC'd and I need to reply
to both the sender and all others on the CC: list.

How can I do this with mutt? 'reply' only takes the sender and
'group-reply' ignores the sender.

Thank you in advance!


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Re: POP and outgoing SMTP

[Lars Hecking]

> I think i didnt explain myself pretty well in my last mail.
> What i  really meant, is there any way to specify my ISP's mail server
> in mutt as an outgoing SMTP server,

 No there isn't. mutt does not speak SMTP, and it shouldn't. You local
 MTA is responsible for that.

> as i can do in other mail clients
> like Netscape for example?

 As long as netscape doesn't make coffee, I won't use it for email.

Re: reply-to-all?

[Mikko Hänninen]

Thomas Schoepf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 1999:
> How can I do this with mutt? 'reply' only takes the sender and
> 'group-reply' ignores the sender.

It doesn't for me.

Maybe your $alternatives setting is incorrect?  That might make mutt to
not send to the sender of the email, if it thought it was from you
yourself.   Mutt tries to avoid sending the mail to yourself with group
reply, and it uses the $alternates setting for this.


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yes/no nls

[Alex Kapranoff]

  Good day!

I just wanted to ask if $subject annoys someone else. I'm a recent user
of 1.0pre2 and it has a bug fixed with a side-effect: I can't use 'y' and
'n' answering yes-or-no questions - only russian chars work. Previous
version let me use both cyrillic and latin chars.
I explored both 0.95 and 1.0 sources and came to the list to suggest giving
up nlsing yes-or-no questions. If we use english chars throughout the mutt's
interface ('c' to open mbox, 'm' to mail etc.) why should we change this
convention for a single piece of user-to-mutt dialog?

I have some ideas ready... But maybe you have some reasonable
arguments against it? If not I'll go to mutt-dev.

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Re: POP and outgoing SMTP

[David DeSimone]

Carl Johan Madestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What i really meant, is there any way to specify my ISP's mail server
> in mutt as an outgoing SMTP server, as i can do in other mail clients
> like Netscape for example?

Netscape tries to do everything itself, because they probably got tired
of people asking them how to set up their MTA's on their workstations...

Mutt, on the other hand, embraces the "Unix philosophy" of having a tool
that does one job very well, and making use of the other tools on your
system to do other jobs very well.  Mutt does do its job of reading mail
very well, but there is probably a fine program such as sendmail,
already installed on your system, and ready to do its fine job of
sending mail, if only you would take a moment to configure it.

Getting your machine's local MTA to work correctly will also probably
help you in other ways that you probably can't think of right now.  :)

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Re: reply-to-all?

[Jeremy Blosser]

Mikko Hänninen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Thomas Schoepf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 1999:
> > How can I do this with mutt? 'reply' only takes the sender and
> 
> Maybe your $alternatives setting is incorrect?  That might make mutt to
> not send to the sender of the email, if it thought it was from you
> yourself.   Mutt tries to avoid sending the mail to yourself with group
> reply, and it uses the $alternates setting for this.

Also check and see if the mail has a Mail-Followup-To set, as if it does
Mutt will use this for a group-reply.

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Re: reply-to-all?

[Mikko Hänninen]

Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 1999:
> Also check and see if the mail has a Mail-Followup-To set, as if it does
> Mutt will use this for a group-reply.

Not for list-reply?  I thought Mail-Followup-To was for list emails.


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Re: reply-to-all?

[Jeremy Blosser]

Mikko Hänninen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 1999:
> > Also check and see if the mail has a Mail-Followup-To set, as if it does
> > Mutt will use this for a group-reply.
> 
> Not for list-reply?  I thought Mail-Followup-To was for list emails.

No, for list-reply, Mutt uses the To: or Cc: header it found that made it
tag the mail as from a list.

Mutt's $followup_to var is *useful* when dealing with lists, but only in
the context of most mailer's group reply function.  Since most mailers
don't have a list reply function, people get in the habit of using group
reply to reply to list mail so they get the list and not the sender.  This
means the sender often gets two copies.  If the mailer respects
Mail-Followup-To and you set it (eg using Mutt's $followup_to var) you can
avoid this problem.

Mutt's built-in list support and list-reply makes the above not as likely,
but it can still matter if it's a list you don't have set in 'lists' (and
therefore can't use list-reply for) or for more complex cases such as mails
sent to a list and cc'ed to other users/lists/etc.  In those cases you can
use group-reply and Mutt will obey Mail-Followup-To if it's present.

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Re: reply-to-all?

[David DeSimone]

Mikko Hänninen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not for list-reply?  I thought Mail-Followup-To was for list emails.

Mail-Followup-To *is* for list emails, but perhaps not in the way you
think.

There is often an annoyance factor to being on a mailing list.  If you
make a post to the list, some people might reply directly to you; others
might reply only to the list.  And it seems that most will reply to both
you AND the list.

Now, since you're already on the list, the extra carbon-copy is not
needed.  But, what if you were *not* subscribed to the list?  Those who
respond only to the list may miss your message entirely.  How can you
know if the author of the message is a member of the list, unless she
remembers to tell you?

Well, Mail-Followup-To is an attempt to fix that.  When you send mail to
a list to which you are subscribed, Mutt knows this because you have
told it so, using the "lists" directive.  So, it will insert a
Mail-Followup-To header, so that other list members can know that there
is no need to CC the message to you; you will see it on the list.

Basically what it comes down to is that, in Mutt (and hopefully any
other MUA that understands Mail-Followup-To):  If you (R)eply to a
message, it goes to the original sender.  If you (L)ist-Reply, it goes
to the list.  But if you (G)roup-Reply, the message will be sent to all
the recipients and sender (except you), but only if there is no
Mail-Followup-To header.  If there is such a header, the group-reply
goes to wherever the Mail-Followup-To points.

Since I've discovered this behavior, I find myself rarely using
list-reply, because a lot of the lists to which I'm subscribed get posts
from non-list-members.  My attempted helpful messages were not getting
seen by the senders, and I had no idea.  Now I use group-reply, and so
users who are concerned about double-replies can insert the header, and
I can be assured that my message will reach the intended people.

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Re: reply-to-all?

[Jeremy Blosser]

David DeSimone [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Well, Mail-Followup-To is an attempt to fix that.  When you send mail to
> a list to which you are subscribed, Mutt knows this because you have
> told it so, using the "lists" directive.  So, it will insert a
> Mail-Followup-To header, so that other list members can know that there
> is no need to CC the message to you; you will see it on the list.

Just a nit, but Mutt only inserts the header if $followup_to is set.

And your mail had no Mail-Followup-To header, so if you find it so useful
you may want to set it so other people can make use of it for replies to
your mails ;)

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Re: POP and outgoing SMTP

[Jeremy Blosser]

Carl Johan Madestrand [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I think i didnt explain myself pretty well in my last mail.
> What i  really meant, is there any way to specify my ISP's mail server
> in mutt as an outgoing SMTP server, as i can do in other mail clients
> like Netscape for example?

I think you're just not putting 2 and 2 together to understand our answers
in light of your question.  When you set an SMTP server in Netscape Mail,
what do you think that does?  The mail can't just magically move from your
machine to the other.  Netscape mail has to make a connection with that
server and transfer the mail to it, with the instruction to send it on.
That is, it has to act as an MTA.  Mutt leaves this responsibility to
another application of your choosing, which is a much better way of doing
things.  It means the Mutt developers can worry about writing a mail user
agent, not a mail transfer agent -- they can ignore the details of
transferring mail and let the people who want to write an MTA worry about
them.  You can choose the MTA you like and keep it even if you change MUAs,
and vice versa.  There isn't extra MTA code in Mutt that users who still
had a local sendmail would just find bloat.  Etc, etc, etc.

If you *only* want to send mail through your ISP's SMTP server, get sSMTP.
It does exactly that, and nothing else.

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Re: reply-to-all?

[David DeSimone]

Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just a nit, but Mutt only inserts the header if $followup_to is set.

Yes, and mine is set.

> And your mail had no Mail-Followup-To header, so if you find it so
> useful you may want to set it so other people can make use of it for
> replies to your mails ;)

Err...  I *do* have followup_to set, and mutt-users *is* one of my
"lists" settings.  I don't know what else I can do to have Mutt insert
the header.  I had always assumed that it *was* being inserted.

Is it a bug in my Mutt version?

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Re: reply-to-all?

[Jeremy Blosser]

David DeSimone [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And your mail had no Mail-Followup-To header, so if you find it so
> > useful you may want to set it so other people can make use of it for
> > replies to your mails ;)
> 
> Err...  I *do* have followup_to set, and mutt-users *is* one of my
> "lists" settings.  I don't know what else I can do to have Mutt insert
> the header.  I had always assumed that it *was* being inserted.
> 
> Is it a bug in my Mutt version?

Hrm... didn't TLR introduce the concept of subscribed and unsubscribed
lists in unstable?  If so, I would *guess* that followup_to would only
matter for subscribed lists... so I would check that. -shrug-

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gpg wrapper for pgp 2 cooperation

[Gero Treuner]

Hi!

Tired of switching configuration to generate signed or encrypted
messages processable by PGP 2.x using folks (a lot here in Germany)
I wrote a wrapper for use with mutt which selects the proper options automatically 
based on the chosen keys, which must be all of RSA
type. (The main reason why I prefer GnuPG is the better keyring
management interface). Still I don't know a way to make GnuPG both
sign and encrypt a message at the same time, but I can live with that.

The three files (README, gpg options file, perl script) are available
as tar archive (~3 kB) at

   http://muppet.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de/~gero/gpg-2comp.tar.gz

If someone wants to put this package in the contribution area of the
mutt ftp site I would be glad to transmit it.


Gero

Re: gpg wrapper for pgp 2 cooperation

[Allan K. Neal]

On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 04:07:52AM +0200, Gero Treuner wrote:
> management interface). Still I don't know a way to make GnuPG both
> sign and encrypt a message at the same time, but I can live with that.
> Gero

To get GnuPG to sign and encrypt at the same time is in the gpg --help page
and the man page.  It is simply gpg -es [-a (for ascii armored)]
.  And in mutt just select both sign and encrypt the message.  It
does do it.  I've done it before.

Allan

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Re: gpg wrapper for pgp 2 cooperation

[Brendan Cully]

On Wednesday, 22 September 1999 at 21:12, Allan K. Neal wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 04:07:52AM +0200, Gero Treuner wrote:
> > management interface). Still I don't know a way to make GnuPG both
> > sign and encrypt a message at the same time, but I can live with that.
> > Gero
> 
> To get GnuPG to sign and encrypt at the same time is in the gpg --help page
> and the man page.  It is simply gpg -es [-a (for ascii armored)]
> .  And in mutt just select both sign and encrypt the message.  It
> does do it.  I've done it before.

Does it make messages that PGP 2.6 can read? I think that is the issue.
As I think I may have posted before, there is a patch somewhere on the
gpg-dev list archive to make this possible, but it isn't trivial due to
the fact that PGP 2.6 relies on tempfiles whereas GPG uses pipes, so GPG
can't put a signature at the head of a file very easily. PGP 2.6 doesn't
expect signatures at the end.

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Re: gpg wrapper for pgp 2 cooperation

[Allan K. Neal]

> Does it make messages that PGP 2.6 can read? I think that is the issue.
> As I think I may have posted before, there is a patch somewhere on the
> gpg-dev list archive to make this possible, but it isn't trivial due to
> the fact that PGP 2.6 relies on tempfiles whereas GPG uses pipes, so GPG
> can't put a signature at the head of a file very easily. PGP 2.6 doesn't
> expect signatures at the end.
> 
I think if you do the gpg part externally you can sign and encrypt to an
ascii format, but I would think you would have to run gpg independantly and
then send that file.

I'm not really sure

that's my $0.02 on the issue

Allan

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