[MlMt] Inline CSS Error
Hi all In the last few versions of MM I’ve been getting the following error as I compose: Warning: CSS inlining unexpectedly failed A JavaScript exception occurred And I get a bright orange header bar as I’m composing that says External command failed: sanitize-html Any ideas, anyone? (I’m on 5912 now, I think this has been happening since ’09 or ’10) cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inline CSS Error
Hi Henry Thanks for this. My HTML Sigs also seem OK. I get the error while I’m composing from my Office365 account. This one is is coming from a private (fast mail) address and I don’t have the problem. Its like MM does something different or extra for office accounts, and that triggers the problem. And, since sanitize-html is an external program, it might be something configured bad on my Mac. Cheers Simon On 19 Aug 2022, at 10:13, Henry Seiden wrote: Hi Simon, Don’t know about your inlined CSS, but all mine is in my signature and the HTML there has been the same for a long time. In version ’10 at least hasn’t it given me that indication. Will go back and check as soon as my computer using MM is back and reinstalled. It’s getting a battery swelling issue repaired. This is done on Mail. Missing MailMate terribly as well. Regards, Henry Henry Seiden, Founder W: <https://www.techworkspro.com/> https://techworkspro.com C/T: Call/Text E: <mailto:i...@techworkspro.com> <mailto:i...@techworkspro.com> <mailto:i...@techworkspro.com> i...@techworkspro.com On Aug 18, 2022, at 19:42, Simon Kaplan wrote: Hi all In the last few versions of MM I’ve been getting the following error as I compose: Warning: CSS inlining unexpectedly failed A JavaScript exception occurred And I get a bright orange header bar as I’m composing that says External command failed: sanitize-html Any ideas, anyone? (I’m on 5912 now, I think this has been happening since ’09 or ’10) Cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 “Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inline CSS Error
Hi Benny and Henry Yes that was the problem - I rebuilt my signature so there was no stylesheet, and now it’s good. Thanks for sorting this for me. Moral of the story: Don’t use word to create HTML signatures! Cheers Simon On 19 Aug 2022, at 18:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 19 Aug 2022, at 1:42, Simon Kaplan wrote: In the last few versions of MM I’ve been getting the following error as I compose: Warning: CSS inlining unexpectedly failed A JavaScript exception occurred And I get a bright orange header bar as I’m composing that says External command failed: sanitize-html Any ideas, anyone? The change in MailMate causing this is that MailMate now inlines CSS in your HTML signature before embedding it in the HTML of the message itself. This is actually MailMate trying to help you because a signature should not contain a stylesheet. (I've yet to see an example where someone did this on purpose. It's usually the result of using an entire HTML document as a signature.) That said, there might still be a MailMate bug/issue since the inlining failed. You are welcome to send me your signature (off list) and I'll see if I can reproduce it. If I can then I'll look into possible workarounds or a more graceful way of failing. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Toggling between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’
Yep, same. This is on a 2019 Intel MacBook Pro running 12.6, if that is helpful to Benny. On 5 Oct 2022, at 10:18, Eric Sharakan wrote: I'm experiencing the same behavior as Jolin, on version 5920. The reply arrow in the compose window is grayed out and unclickable, and typing ⌘R just elicits an alert beep. -Eric On 3 Oct 2022, at 9:43, i...@techworkspro.com wrote: I get a popup every time I click either the arrow or ⌘ R. I can select either option in that window. FWIW… Would still prefer the old method of single or all direct selection. - - Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhone C/T (954) 253-4125 Henry M. Seiden Techworks Pro On Oct 3, 2022, at 09:38, Jolin Warren wrote: In the current version of MailMate, is there a way to toggle a reply between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’ after I’ve started writing the message? I thought that in previous versions I could hit cmd-R repeatedly to toggle whether I was replying just to the sender or to everyone, but that doesn’t work now. I sometimes start a reply and then realise I meant to reply to everyone (or vice versa) and it’s cumbersome to have to copy, delete the reply, start a new one, and paste. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
Hi all In today’s release (5923) Benny says | New: On macOS 11+, the Mailbox menu includes a “Symbol” menu to make it easy to change the mailbox symbol used. | This is very similar to how colors are handled. Where can I find something that explains how colours are handled? This seems very useful/interesting but I can’t find anything in the manual or mailing list except discussion of the hidden preference (which presumably isn’t it, because if it’s a hidden preference there wouldn’t be a menu option - or so I’m assuming). Any advice/pointers would be much appreciated cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
Hi John Thanks for that. What I want to know is, how do we use the colours menu? Making selections doesn’t seem to do anything. Cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 “Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 27 Oct 2022 at 07:40 +1000, John Cooper , wrote: > Simon Kaplan wrote (at 2:19 PM on Wednesday, October 26, 2022): > > > In today’s release (5923) Benny says > > > > | New: On macOS 11+, the Mailbox menu includes a “Symbol” menu to make it > > easy to change the mailbox symbol used. > > | This is very similar to how colors are handled. > > > > Where can I find something that explains how colours are handled? This > > seems very useful/interesting but I can’t find anything in the manual or > > mailing list except discussion of the hidden preference (which presumably > > isn’t it, because if it’s a hidden preference there wouldn’t be a menu > > option - or so I’m assuming). > > I think Benny simply means that you can select a symbol from the new Mailbox > > Symbol menu the same way that you can select a color from the existing > Mailbox > Color menu. > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
Well, D’oh. I was expecting something to happen to the messages, not the mailbox icon! Didn’t even look there. But now that I do, yes the colours of the icon do change. That’s pretty cool. Thanks John! Cheers Simon On 27 Oct 2022, at 8:01, John Cooper wrote: Simon Kaplan wrote (at 2:47 PM on Wednesday, October 26, 2022): Thanks for that. What I want to know is, how do we use the colours menu? Making selections doesn’t seem to do anything. I'm surprised. Is a mailbox selected? When I select a mailbox, then choose a color from the Mailbox > Color menu, the symbol next to the mailbox changes to that color. John On 27 Oct 2022 at 07:40 +1000, John Cooper , wrote: Simon Kaplan wrote (at 2:19 PM on Wednesday, October 26, 2022): In today’s release (5923) Benny says | New: On macOS 11+, the Mailbox menu includes a “Symbol” menu to make it easy to change the mailbox symbol used. | This is very similar to how colors are handled. Where can I find something that explains how colours are handled? This seems very useful/interesting but I can’t find anything in the manual or mailing list except discussion of the hidden preference (which presumably isn’t it, because if it’s a hidden preference there wouldn’t be a menu option - or so I’m assuming). I think Benny simply means that you can select a symbol from the new Mailbox > Symbol menu the same way that you can select a color from the existing Mailbox > Color menu. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Suddenly, all my emails are going to junk
Hi there I've been using MM for a couple weeks now, and really loving it. But just today, after I updated to the most recent version of SpamSieve, all my emails started going to junk and a look at SpamSieve's blacklist showed that all email addresses are being added to my blacklist. I tried downgrading to the last non-beta release of SpamSieve and deleting the entries from my blacklist but that didn't help -- the addresses just get added as new messages come in... Can anyone help/any suggestions for why this is happening? (Curiously when I switched to Apple Mail and had it load the past 2 weeks email, none of the 'good' messages went to Spam (which is what you'd expect, given all the spam had already been filtered). So it looks like its a MM problem rather than a SpamSieve problem) cheers Simon -- Professor Simon Kaplan Director, Skills & Industry Transformation Director, Queensland Research Laboratory NICTA PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS (From 5 August 2014) Office: 70-72 Bowen Street, Spring Hill, QLD 4000 Postal: PO Box 10522, Brisbane Adelaide St, QLD 4000 M +61 411 511 122 | skype: simonmkaplan www.nicta.com.au | simon.kap...@nicta.com.au Twitter: @simonkaplan | LinkedIn: au.linkedin.com/in/simonmkaplan ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Suddenly, all my emails are going to junk
Hi Benny
So I had a mailbox rule to move messages to a certain mailing list...
when I switched versions of spam sieve, that started moving all messages
(apparently). I've deleted the rule and all is now good.
Thanks for the help and keep up the great work!
cheers
Simon
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On 24 Jul 2014, at 0:20, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 23 Jul 2014, at 10:16, Simon Kaplan wrote:
I've been using MM for a couple weeks now, and really loving it. But
just today, after I updated to the most recent version of SpamSieve,
all my emails started going to junk and a look at SpamSieve's
blacklist showed that all email addresses are being added to my
blacklist. I tried downgrading to the last non-beta release of
SpamSieve and deleting the entries from my blacklist but that didn't
help -- the addresses just get added as new messages come in... Can
anyone help/any suggestions for why this is happening?
I can tell you how it works in MailMate (and essentially also in Apple
Mail). The settings in the Security preferences pane determine which
messages are given to SpamSieve for analysis. Anything scoring above
50 (0-100) is marked as junk and moved to the “Junk” mailbox of
the account.
If you explicitly (or using a rule) move a message to “Junk” (or
mark it as junk) then MailMate also tells SpamSieve about this.
(Curiously when I switched to Apple Mail and had it load the past 2
weeks email, none of the 'good' messages went to Spam (which is what
you'd expect, given all the spam had already been filtered). So it
looks like its a MM problem rather than a SpamSieve problem)
Since Apple Mail behaves differently then it sounds like you have some
kind of rule triggering MailMate to mark your messages as junk. Do you
have any rules defined in MailMate?
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Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
Hi Luca This is great and exactly what I've been wishing for, except: how does one set it up so that, on the right hand side, the list of messages is on top and the message 'preview' on the bottom (rather than the other way around as they appear to be now). Thanks for any help! cheers Simon -- Professor Simon Kaplan Director, Skills & Industry Transformation Director, Queensland Research Laboratory NICTA PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS Office: 70-72 Bowen Street, Spring Hill, QLD 4000 Postal: PO Box 10522, Brisbane Adelaide St, QLD 4000 M +61 411 511 122 | skype: simonmkaplan www.nicta.com.au | simon.kap...@nicta.com.au Twitter: @simonkaplan | LinkedIn: au.linkedin.com/in/simonmkaplan On 13 Aug 2014, at 3:27, Luca Allodi wrote: Hi, Today I spent some time flipping around my favourite MailMate layout, Correspondence. I am not sure anybody would really be interested in this re-organisation but I thought to share just in case. So, you might be interested in this if you have similar thoughts as mine: - I like using MM through my keyboard shortcuts (e.g. to navigate mailboxes). - I like saving up space on the monitor - I also like having the email I am interested right in front of me, rather than next to one of the screen edges (right edge for the Widescreen layout, or bottom for the others). Because of this I don't need: - the full list of mailboxes to be always available for me to mouse-click - all the horizontal space dedicated to the mail listing - the actual mail body shifted to the bottom right because of all the space occupied by the Mailboxes vertical bar and by the Correspondence bit. Here's how I edited Correspondence (link on imgur.com):  One idea was also to include an additional panel showing only the attachments in the mail, for rapid access (they are always listed at the very bottom of the mail body and sometimes that's a bit annoying when I am looking through emails to find a particular attachment). The panel could be: - horizontal: for the classic "quick look"-"save" interface - vertical: for a full preview (but this would require plugins e.g. for PDFs etc). Anyway I have no idea how to query MM to return an email attachment. Benny, would something like attachments = $mainOutline.attachments work? I did not try. If there's a way to implement this I would happily give it a shot. Anyway, I attach the layout, which I named "Correspondence Shifted" because as a poet I fall quite short. The attachment is a zip file with the directory structure and the layout to place in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ If you have other custom layouts already defined, make sure to merge the dirs rather than substituting yours with mine. If you like Correspondence Shifted but are uncomfortable with some changes ask and I'll deliver (if I know how to do it :-)) or you are welcome to modify it yourself and share it back. Cheers, -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist) [Layouts.zip] ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
Hi Luca Perfect! Thanks so much. cheers Simon -- Professor Simon Kaplan Director, Skills & Industry Transformation Director, Queensland Research Laboratory NICTA PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS Office: 70-72 Bowen Street, Spring Hill, QLD 4000 Postal: PO Box 10522, Brisbane Adelaide St, QLD 4000 M +61 411 511 122 | skype: simonmkaplan www.nicta.com.au | simon.kap...@nicta.com.au Twitter: @simonkaplan | LinkedIn: au.linkedin.com/in/simonmkaplan On 13 Aug 2014, at 19:38, Luca Allodi wrote: On 12 Aug 2014, at 22:32, Simon Kaplan wrote: how does one set it up so that, on the right hand side, the list of messages is on top and the message 'preview' on the bottom Hello, I attach a zip with two layouts: - Correspondence Minimal: as the standard Correspondence but with the correspondence box underneath the mailboxes - Correspondence Minimal (Shifted): as the former but with the mail listing and the message preview shifted in position. I am not sure the default sizes work for everybody but these should be easy to adjust manually. Cheers, -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist) [Layouts.zip] ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Resetting URL Handlers (Yosemite)
Hi all I wonder if you could please help me. On Yosemite I’ve set MailMate to be my default mail client. This loads the 4 URL scheme handler (message:, mailto:, mid:, etc) into com.apple.launchservices.secure.plist in ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices. If I change back to Mail.app as my default mail handler, these don’t seem to get changed back/deleted from the plist file. This is a particular problem as OmniFocus uses message: URL schemes to link actions back to their ‘parent’ email messages, so this keeps opening MailMate. (Obviously many MailMate users will not see this as a bug!) How can I force the message: URL scheme to go back to mail.app? I’ve tried editing the com.apple.launchservices.secure.plist file using Xcode, but the changes won’t save. Thanks for any help the list can provide! cheers Simon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Resetting URL Handlers (Yosemite)
Hi Benny That fixed it!! All good now, thanks. ---Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com On 22 September 2014 20:42:50 AEST, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 21 Sep 2014, at 23:33, Simon Kaplan wrote: I wonder if you could please help me. On Yosemite I’ve set MailMate to be my default mail client. This loads the 4 URL scheme handler (message:, mailto:, mid:, etc) into com.apple.launchservices.secure.plist in ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices. If I change back to Mail.app as my default mail handler, these don’t seem to get changed back/deleted from the plist file. Did you change back using Mail or MailMate? This is a particular problem as OmniFocus uses message: URL schemes to link actions back to their ‘parent’ email messages, so this keeps opening MailMate. (Obviously many MailMate users will not see this as a bug!) Yes, that's not good. The whole point of MailMate using the message: URL scheme was to be compatible with Apple Mail. How can I force the message: URL scheme to go back to mail.app? I’ve tried editing the com.apple.launchservices.secure.plist file using Xcode, but the changes won’t save. I cannot remember how to do this manually, but I think it should work if you use MailMate to switch back to Apple Mail (in the General preferences pane). If not then I should treat it as a bug. (In the past I had the problem that Apple Mail would silently “steal back” the message: URL scheme. I had to add an automatic check in MailMate for this where the user is asked whether or not MailMate should steal it back without asking whenever this happens. This only happens if MailMate is already the default for mailto: .) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Bug that's tough to replicate: ddoouubbllee..
I've seen this in the main text field also -- just this morning in fact, on one word, and it didn't recur again. But it does happen very intermittently (of course my keyboard may just have an occasionally-stuck key... that is what I thought it was until I saw this) cheers Simon -- Professor Simon Kaplan Director, Skills & Industry Transformation Director, NICTA Queensland NICTA Office: 70-72 Bowen Street, Spring Hill, QLD 4000 Postal: PO Box 10522, Brisbane Adelaide St, QLD 4000 M +61 411 511 122 | skype: simonmkaplan www.nicta.com.au | simon.kap...@nicta.com.au Twitter: @simonkaplan | LinkedIn: au.linkedin.com/in/simonmkaplan On 23 Jan 2015, at 10:37, Steve Mayer wrote: I've seen this at times as well as in the search field. Not sure what causes it, but as Scott has stated, simply closing the field and reopening it will more than likely solve the issue. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 22 Jan 2015, at 16:25, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: Hi, Tough bug for me to replicate, but, it's happened three times this morning with v5035. When a message is selected I bring up the "Move To" panel and start typing the name of a folder. Sometimes, but not always, every letter I press is duplicated for input in MailMate's search box. Instead of "wife" being typed, it will be wwiiffee, for which there is no match.. The only way to fix it is to close the Move To panel and re-open it, which typically makes it all work again. Not sure if there's an easy way for you to look at this Benny, or if anyone else is seeing it... Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Timeout when setting up SSL/TLS.
Hi there Recently I started intermittently having the problem that when I send email from my office365 account using MailMate, I get this error: Timeout when setting up SSL/TLS. Retrying tends to send the message without any problems. I don’t recall having this problem with any of my google accounts. If anyone has any suggestions for overcoming this, I’d be most grateful. I’m running the latest beta (6068) thanks! cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Timeout when setting up SSL/TLS.
Hi Benny Turns out I was using port 587 for office365 smtp (per their documentation). I changed to port 25 (with SSL) and the problem went away. If it occurs again then I’ll send the logs, but so far so good. OTOH if you want logs of the problem, I’ll switch back to 587 and make them for you…. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan, co-founder & CEO North Shore Labs Pty Ltd ph: +61 411 511 122 On 1 Dec 2016, at 23:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 30 Nov 2016, at 8:59, Simon Kaplan wrote: Recently I started intermittently having the problem that when I send email from my office365 account using MailMate, I get this error: Timeout when setting up SSL/TLS. Retrying tends to send the message without any problems. I don’t recall having this problem with any of my google accounts. If anyone has any suggestions for overcoming this, I’d be most grateful. I'll need some logs to analyze the issue in more detail. Keep the Activity Viewer open (⌥⌘0) and when you have seen the issue once or twice then use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs”. Then I'll review them. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Timeout when setting up SSL/TLS.
Hi Benny Shifted to 587p as well; everything seems to be working well for me now. Will send logs if I get a problem. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 On 5 Dec 2016, at 19:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Dec 2016, at 3:44, Han Trinh wrote: I moved to 587p, but still having intermittent issues sending on smtp.office365.com. It might then be a different issue than what I initially thought. I sent you some more server logs. Thanks! Enjoy your weekend, hopefully we’ll be able to find a workaround or fix next week. I'll certainly do what I can. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Conditional or context-sensitive keybindings
Hi all Is it possible to set up a keybinding so its behaviour changes depending on the folder you’re in? For example, I’d like to define ‘a’ to archive: if I’m in the Inbox, but move the messages to a different folder if I’m in the SaneNews, SaneLater or SaneBulk folders. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Slow since HIgh Sierra upgrade?
Hi all I’m getting a lot of spinning wheel behaviour from MailMate since I upgraded to High Sierra - particularly noticeable when searching or opening a new tab (eg, replying to a new message). Is anyone else seeing this behaviour and/or have any suggestions to fix? Thanks! cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] discussion topic: IMAP or smart mailbox?
Hi Peter Assuming you have (or can articulate) consistent rules about what goes into which folder, smart mailboxes are (in my view) much better, because I don’t much care for spending time filing. I only have these actual mailboxes: - inbox - sent items - junk (via spamsieve) - archive - sanelater (filter non-junk crud that I skim weekly using sanebox; I have a keystroke programmed to train messages from my inbox to sanebox when needed). Everything else I find I can do by search and/or smart mailboxes (essentially your ‘consistent rules’ from above become the smart mailbox criteria). I have about a dozen smart mailboxes permanently set up, and use the advanced search functionality continuously. Search has a nifty ‘save’ feature, so you can set up the searches you want and save them as smart mailboxes. Once emails are older than a year or so I shift them to eaglefiler, to keep down the volume that MM has to handle. Searching the mail list archive will turn up multiple discussions on this topic, but I think the consensus leans towards smart mailboxes and searching. cheers Simon On 15 Jun 2018, at 6:25, Peter Borsella wrote: Hello, All, I currently have hundreds of IMAP folders. Now that I have MailMate I’m wondering, is it better to create IMAP folders, or, better to create smart mailboxes every time I need a new collection of emails? If this has already been debated I’d appreciate pointing me to the discussion thread. Thanks! ...Peter Peter Borsella, President **Winnow Management** PO Box 1046 Pompano Beach, FL 33061 Office: 954-784-3674 Mobile: 954-253-3761 Fax:954-301-5829 @pborsella Now available, Certified ScrumMaster for Industry! Head to our website for our full class schedule and early registration pricing! http://www.winnowmanagement.com CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any associated files contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 'mark as not junk'
Hi Jo Spamsieve does need some training and configuration. See https://c-command.com/spamsieve/help/setting-up-mailmate for instructions. Cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 “Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 8 Jul 2020, at 5:49, Jo wrote: On 7 Jul 2020, at 10:46, Charlie Clark wrote: On 7 Jul 2020, at 19:43, Jo wrote: How many times do I have to 'mark as not junk' an email from a specific party in order for the next one to not ask me if I want to mark it as junk again? MailMate doesn't do any classification of e-mails based on user interaction, it will be down to whichever spam filter software you have running, though generally I've found that unclassifying a single e-mail should generally suffice (ie. the model is rebuilt). Charlie I'm using SpamSieve - it doesn't seem to be paying attention. Perhaps I haven't set it up correctly? I haven't actually set up ANYTHING with it, I just kept it in my system after switching over from PowerMail. Did I miss something? Because I have unclassified a bunch of emails from the same sender(s) with no change. Jo ,€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸ Bad command or file name. You have 2 wishes left. ,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Show images in new message view?
Hi all Silly question here - I’ve switched the latest version w/new message view. Pictures/images are now not downloaded at all, and the ‘show pictures’ button on emails seems to have vanished. What am I doing wrong/what do I need to set so that I get my show pictures button back? Thanks for your help, Cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 “Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Show images in new message view?
Thanks Benny. The security setting was what I was looking for. (I’ve used Mailmate for years now, and have never noticed this was there… oops!) Thanks as ever for an amazing mail client, and I’m happy to wait for the button to come when you’re ready! Cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan +61 411 511 122 “Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 27 Aug 2020, at 18:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 27 Aug 2020, at 2:14, Simon Kaplan wrote: In general, current test releases really are *test* releases. The new message view might seem like a small change, but it's a huge change and indirectly involves many parts of MailMate. It includes numerous fixes for old issues, quite a few new features, but also some new bugs and some missing features (compared to the old message view). I no longer recommend using the old message view in the most recent test releases because it has become unstable for some users. (I don't intend spending time on fixing it.) Silly question here - I’ve switched the latest version w/new message view. Pictures/images are now not downloaded at all, and the ‘show pictures’ button on emails seems to have vanished. The “Load Once” button has not been implemented yet, but it's a fairly high priority. I've already got several requests about it missing :) What am I doing wrong/what do I need to set so that I get my show pictures button back? You can enable “Unless messages are explicitly marked as Not Junk” in the Security preferences pane. Then use “Message ▸ Junk State ▸ Not Junk” to load images or bind a key to `markAsNotJunk:`. Or downgrade to the public release by clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane and use the “Downgrade” button. Or wait for me to re-implement it :) -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Are any of my posts getting through?
Hi Henry I saw this one, and will reply to the other I can see. On 7 Feb 2022, at 0:29, Henry Seiden wrote: > I’ve sent in several posts that don’t seem to get published. Why? > > > Respectfully, > > Henry > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Smart folder for Messages awaiting reply?
I use SaneBox to auto-manage my emails. One of its many features is a NoReplies folder - things in there have not been replied to. Once this is in place, a simple smart folder with ‘in the last week’ condition would give me what Ben’s after. SaneBox also auto-filters my emails in a bunch of different ways, worth a look Cheers Simon On 15 Feb 2022, at 3:19, Bill Cole wrote: On 2022-02-14 at 09:22:36 UTC-0500 (Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:22:36 -0500) Ben Lee-Cohen is rumored to have said: Hi, hopefully this is a simple question. I’m trying to create a smart folder to surface messages I’ve sent in the last week that do not have a reply. Is there a way to achieve this with Smart Folders? Maybe... The logic would be to include sent messages less than a week old whose Message-ID doesn't appear in any Reply-To or References headers in recent messages. I'm not sure if it is possible to express that in a MM mailbox, but you might be able to work out a way. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] What version of MailMate are you running?
Yep, 6065 user here - very stable for me also. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 19 Nov 2024, at 9:26, Devyn Osborne wrote: Hi Marc, Thanks! I didn’t have that link. Much appreciated! Devyn On 18 Nov 2024, at 13:39, ARC MM via mailmate wrote: Hello Devyn, On https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ you’ll find all the versions I’m under Sonoma running Version 1.14 (6065) which is imho very stable. Regards, Marc On 18 Nov 2024, at 21:43, Devyn Osborne wrote: Hello, I seem to recall a recent mention of this, but now can’t find it. What version of MM is everyone using? I finally started using MM end of last year and love it. I followed the recommendation on the site to install the latest beta release, version 1.14 (5937). Are there worthwhile fixes or new features past 1.14 (5937)? Is there a particularly stable version that people are using? I see mention of Benny working on newer versions. I think others have suggested updating to one version or another. For my preferences, I’m usually fine with beta versions and some minor bugs, though less so with email. That said, happy to update if there are compelling reasons to do so. I’ve just updated my laptop, so I’m reassessing everything about my setup, including software updates. If it matters, I’m now on an M4 MacBook Pro running macOS 15.1 Sequoia. Thanks for any tips! Devyn ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] All mailboxes formatted as "Sent Items" (unable to disable "To" column)
Hi Christian Can report that I don’t have this problem in 5933 (the latest ‘pre-beta’) and that this version seems perfectly stable to me (at least, for my setup - 5 mail sources, on Ventura, M2 Mac). To upgrade go to preferences -> software update and hold down the option key when pressing ‘check now’ If this doesn’t work then my suggestion is delete mailmate (taking care to save things like keystroke customisations, signature plist files etc) and reinstall. The archive email list has lots of advice on how to do this safely. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 23 Dec 2022, at 6:14, Christian Bailey via mailmate wrote: All my mailboxes, including Inboxes are now permanently treated as "Sent Items”. They all show a “To” column, which I’m unable to disable. “Revert to default columns” is greyed out. I already tried quitting and running in Terminal: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates I tried deleting the Test release and rolling back to the Beta (r5918). I had been seeing more and more problems with default columns not being honored (e.g., always reset in Smart Folders, always reset in search views). But now this latest issue has made MailMate totally unusable. Since rolling back to the Beta, I’m also experiencing MailMate hanging for ~10seconds every time I compose a new message or reply to one. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Thank you! Christian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] URL no longer displays when hovering over a link
Same! cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 6 Feb 2023, at 0:51, Shoshanna Green wrote: On 4 Feb 2023, at 10:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Orange: The URL of a blocked image Red: It's either a link to an `http:` URL (which is *always* unsafe) or MailMate detected that the displayed text of a link looks like a URL, but the actual link does not match it. Normal: https://freron.com Red: http://freron.com Normal: [https://example.com/good_url](https://example.com/good_url) Red: [https://example.com/good_url](https://example.com/bad_url) I *love* this helpful bit of design. Thanks, Benny! Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]
Yep, same. Shifted to Fastmail (from using Google services) about 18 months ago, its worked perfectly. Highly recommend it. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 13 Apr 2023, at 5:37, John Doherty wrote: I switched to fastmail after 15 or 16 years of hosting my own mail server. I've been really happy with them. Migrating all my old mail was a snap and happened much more quickly than I expected. They also have MailMate-specific setup instructions, so they are MailMate-friendly at least to that extent: <https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/150280001-How-to-set-up-MailMate> I don't remember whether I had to use their instructions or not, the whole thing was pretty simple and straightforward. I'm using their "standard" 30 GB plan. Paying up front for a couple of years brought the price down to a little less than $4/month. Honestly, I should have done something like this years ago. Hosting my own mail server cost a lot more and although it was sort of fun and educational in its time, that hadn't actually been the case for a long time. So FWIW, happy fastmail customer here. I expect to stick with them for a long time. On Wed 2023-04-12 11:55 AM MDT -0600, wrote: *Thanks* for the continued stream of great info. My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I discovered that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver what I needed. Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) will accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will allow me to import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient storage (e.g., StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 10G storage for all plans). The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research. I’d appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other provider you recommend or warn against. MailFence Proton Fastmail Thexyz Scala Hosting mailbox.org Thanks as always for your help. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Protonmail sync problem
Hi there Most recent release I can see is 6003, available from https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ There was a deletion problem for some users which Benny has fixed in this version, so this might help you. (Note these are development versions and so can be unstable, although I am finding it works just fine so far). cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan si...@kaplan.id.au +61 411 511 122 “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) On 24 Nov 2023, at 5:01, Tóth András wrote: Anyone can help me please? Thanks, Andras 2023. 11. 23. 12:30 keltezéssel, Tóth András írta: Dear MailMate Community! I have a synchronisation problem between MailMate v1.14 (6113) and Protonmail bridge (using the taltest build): when i’m deleting an e-mail in MailMate the messaage moved to trash (in MM), but in my Protonmail mobile app i still see the deleted e-mail. Fun fact: if i delete a message in Thunderbird, this mail already disappear from the official Protonmail. This is a MailMate bug? Best, Andras ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
