[MlMt] Search entire message, not just a part
I don't see a way to do a search across all messages for a string that can occur in any message part (From, To, Body, etc.). Is there a way to do this? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Search entire message, not just a part
Never mind. I found the condition I wanted: Common Headers and Body. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Disjunctive Searches
Please correct me if I'm wrong about the following. If I want a disjunctive search (Any) instead of an adjunctive search (All), I must use a Custom Mailbox for this. I see way to do a disjunctive search in the Custom Search bar I see above my message list. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Search entire message, not just a part
Thanks. Very useful. Been using MM for only a few days. Registered it pretty quickly. On 2 Sep 2013, at 20:11, Daniel Mann wrote: On 2 Sep 2013, at 22:59, Daniel Mann wrote: On 2 Sep 2013, at 22:16, Ralph Alvy wrote: I found the condition I wanted: Common Headers and Body. Nice find. I wonder if it is possible to make this the default search selection? Or, to set this search option via a keybinding? Turns out this is not necessary. Looks like changing the default is built in as a menu option. While searching the way you want, select Edit > Find > Use as default search. Found [here](http://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2013-February/000582.html) and [here](http://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2012-February/000194.html). Thanks! =] -Daniel Mann ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Disjunctive Searches
I see that now. Thanks. Maybe a future version will allow us to save that as the default search (where I have the Any/All selector displayed). On 2 Sep 2013, at 23:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Sep 2013, at 4:24, Ralph Alvy wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong about the following. If I want a disjunctive search (Any) instead of an adjunctive search (All), I must use a Custom Mailbox for this. I see way to do a disjunctive search in the Custom Search bar I see above my message list. In both smart mailboxes and in a custom search you can hold down ⌥ and the “plus”-symbols change into “…” symbols. Clicking on one of them creates a new group of conditions for which you can toggle “Any/All”. Although not easy to discover this is actually a general OS X feature. It works in a Finder search as well. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Red Dot and Trash folder
I know that the Red Dot means a message was deleted by another application. In this case, the messages I see with a Red Dot in my MailMate smart MAILBOX were all deleted in the office under Postbox. That said, why don't I see them in my Trash folder under SOURCES? They were certainly put there by Postbox when in the office today. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Alternative Search problem: crash report
I notice that if I use the alternative search method (holding down the Opt key so I can get Any/All as a parameter), it defaults to "string" as the search type. Such a search type doesn't exist, and if you fail to change it and then start entering a string to be found, MM will crash. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] collpaseAll fails
I find that "collapseAll:" fails to work until I leave that mailbox and then come back to it. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Tags and Expanded Headers View
I just read about tags and see I'm supposed to be able see them in Expanded Headers View. I don't see where I can access that view. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags and Expanded Headers View
Ok. Now I see it. Forget it. Might be nice to have a column header for Tagged when viewing a list of messages. On 4 Sep 2013, at 14:23, Ralph Alvy wrote: I just read about tags and see I'm supposed to be able see them in Expanded Headers View. I don't see where I can access that view. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Personal Inbox
I keep looking at the Personal Inbox in [MAILBOXES] and just can't wrap my head around it. I have examined the Edit Mailbox conditions and then look at the results, and I still don't get it. Can someone tell me what it's really accomplishing? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Personal Inbox
How would it be different than just looking at Inbox, since all those messages are addressed to me? The only difference I can see is if there's a message in my Inbox that is addressed to, say, undisclosed recipients. On 4 Sep 2013, at 17:53, Ralph Alvy wrote: I keep looking at the Personal Inbox in [MAILBOXES] and just can't wrap my head around it. I have examined the Edit Mailbox conditions and then look at the results, and I still don't get it. Can someone tell me what it's really accomplishing? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Personal Inbox
Nicely spelled out, Bill. Thanks. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Personal Inbox
Actually, Ryan, the way I read that configuration screen is that it will show me all emails specifically addressed to me, whether or not I have ever sent a message to any of the senders. As long as the Recipient is an email address I have used to send from, the message will be there. The Sender of the message need never have received a message from me. This is consistent with the results I see. I see many messages from entities I have never sent a message to, but they are addressed to my personal email address. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Search parameter request: All Message With Tags
I don't see a way to create a Smart Mailbox that sees all and only messages with Tags. Is there a way to do this? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Search parameter request: All Message With Tags
I cannot get that to work. I have tried all the following: #Tags is not "" #Tags is not 0 #Tags is not "0" In all theses cases I see all my messages. I also added a single tag to a new message in my Inbox and then tried the following: #Tags is 1 #Tags is > 0 #Tags is >0 #Tags is "1" These all showed no messages. On 9 Sep 2013, at 4:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Sep 2013, at 13:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Using that you should be able to make a simple search like this: #Tags exists Sorry, that should have been: #Tags is not "" -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Search parameter request: All Message With Tags
That did it. Thanks. On 9 Sep 2013, at 7:57, Steve Mayer wrote: Ralph, I found that if I pick the 'blank' entry from the dropdown list of tags (so my query is #Tags* is not ) then I see only my messages with tags. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 9 Sep 2013, at 7:53, Ralph Alvy wrote: I cannot get that to work. I have tried all the following: #Tags is not "" #Tags is not 0 #Tags is not "0" In all theses cases I see all my messages. I also added a single tag to a new message in my Inbox and then tried the following: #Tags is 1 #Tags is > 0 #Tags is >0 #Tags is "1" These all showed no messages. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Hide/Show Preview Pane and keyboard
I notice that when I first start a reply to a message, unless I use the keyboard first (do some typing), I cannot hide or show the Preview Pane via the keyboard shortcut. I must first type some text. This behavior is not present when composing a new message. Only when replying. Not a major problem once you understand how to workaround it (just type something first). ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Thread View that honors reverse date
Not sure if this is even possible or makes sense, but I'd love to be able to see Threaded View honor my reverse date sort, even within each thread. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Thread View that honors reverse date
Now that I see how this is done in Postbox on my office machine where I run Windows, I really miss it. Postbox will sort Threads in reverse date order of that's the order of dates chosen by the user otherwise. So the more recent messages appear higher up the list in the thread. On 10 Sep 2013, at 15:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: Not sure if this is even possible or makes sense, but I'd love to be able to see Threaded View honor my reverse date sort, even within each thread. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Thread View that honors reverse date
Ah, yes. Conversation mode. That's what Postbox is using. Understood. On 13 Sep 2013, at 7:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 13 Sep 2013, at 16:13, Ralph Alvy wrote: Not sure if this is even possible or makes sense, but I'd love to be able to see Threaded View honor my reverse date sort, even within each thread. Now that I see how this is done in Postbox on my office machine where I run Windows, I really miss it. Postbox will sort Threads in reverse date order of that's the order of dates chosen by the user otherwise. So the more recent messages appear higher up the list in the thread. Sorry for not replying earlier on. The problem in MailMate is that threads are fully threaded (showing all message<->reply relationships). It is not a simple matter of reversing the date sort to get what you want. What you need is a different flat threading mode in which the newest message is shown first. This is also closely related to a so-called conversation view where all messages are shown in the message view. The latter is something I would like to work on, but I cannot make any promises (and it is already a long standing issue/request). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Changing font size of message viewer
I don't see a way to change the font size of the message viewer. I have successfully changed the font and its size for the message tree pane, but that doesn't seem to affect the message view pane. I also increased the Minimum Font Size in Preferences|Viewer to 12, but that has no effect on the message view pane. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Changing font size of message viewer
My my. That was easy. MailMate awfully granular in configuration. Just wonderful. Thanks. On 15 Sep 2013, at 9:47, Bill Cole wrote: On 15 Sep 2013, at 11:57, Ralph Alvy wrote: I don't see a way to change the font size of the message viewer. I have successfully changed the font and its size for the message tree pane, but that doesn't seem to affect the message view pane. I also increased the Minimum Font Size in Preferences|Viewer to 12, but that has no effect on the message view pane. It is perhaps too simple to be obvious... With focus in the message viewer pane or the body area an open message window, you can use the options in the Format menu to change the font & size of text. Those changes stick. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Thread View that honors reverse date
Now that I think of it, double-clicking on a message Subject essentially gives me what I'm looking for for that particular subject, within a given folder. On 13 Sep 2013, at 7:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 13 Sep 2013, at 16:13, Ralph Alvy wrote: Not sure if this is even possible or makes sense, but I'd love to be able to see Threaded View honor my reverse date sort, even within each thread. Now that I see how this is done in Postbox on my office machine where I run Windows, I really miss it. Postbox will sort Threads in reverse date order of that's the order of dates chosen by the user otherwise. So the more recent messages appear higher up the list in the thread. Sorry for not replying earlier on. The problem in MailMate is that threads are fully threaded (showing all message<->reply relationships). It is not a simple matter of reversing the date sort to get what you want. What you need is a different flat threading mode in which the newest message is shown first. This is also closely related to a so-called conversation view where all messages are shown in the message view. The latter is something I would like to work on, but I cannot make any promises (and it is already a long standing issue/request). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Copy Message To Mailbox
I don't see a way to Copy a message to a Mailbox. I know how to Move it. How do I Copy it? The reason I need this is that I have Spam and Ham folders on my server that are set up so that when I copy a message to the Spam folder, the server learns that this is spam (using Bayes methods); and when I copy it to the Ham folder, it learns it isn't spam. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Copy Message To Mailbox
Ah, I see that. How about a copyToMailbox command so we can do this with the keyboard? On 18 Sep 2013, at 0:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 18 Sep 2013, at 2:59, Ralph Alvy wrote: I don't see a way to Copy a message to a Mailbox. I know how to Move it. How do I Copy it? The reason I need this is that I have Spam and Ham folders on my server that are set up so that when I copy a message to the Spam folder, the server learns that this is spam (using Bayes methods); and when I copy it to the Ham folder, it learns it isn't spam. You can do like in the Finder: Hold down ⌥ when using drag'n'drop to copy instead of moving. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Copy Message To Mailbox
Exacly what I was hoping for. On 18 Sep 2013, at 7:20, Thomas Eckhold wrote: Maybe it could be an additional modifier key to change the "Move to mailbox…" (Alt-Cmd-t) to a "Copy to mailbox…" (like Ctrl-Alt-Cmd-t) command and use the same UI? Regards, Thomas On 18 Sep 2013, at 16:10, Ralph Alvy wrote: Ah, I see that. How about a copyToMailbox command so we can do this with the keyboard? On 18 Sep 2013, at 0:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 18 Sep 2013, at 2:59, Ralph Alvy wrote: I don't see a way to Copy a message to a Mailbox. I know how to Move it. How do I Copy it? The reason I need this is that I have Spam and Ham folders on my server that are set up so that when I copy a message to the Spam folder, the server learns that this is spam (using Bayes methods); and when I copy it to the Ham folder, it learns it isn't spam. You can do like in the Finder: Hold down ⌥ when using drag'n'drop to copy instead of moving. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Copy Message To Mailbox
I need to be able to have a real copy of a message land in a particular folder for spam controls, as I noted here in my original post: "The reason I need this is that I have Spam and Ham folders on my server that are set up so that when I copy a message to the Spam folder, the server learns that this is spam (using Bayes methods); and when I copy it to the Ham folder, it learns it isn't spam." On 18 Sep 2013, at 7:52, Nitin Goyal wrote: Why you need to copy messages to another folder? Isn't tagging a better option? -- Nitin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Paste as Quotation
I would love to see Edit > Paste As Quotation. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Paste as Quotation
Got it. Thanks. On 19 Sep 2013, at 3:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 18 Sep 2013, at 17:36, Ralph Alvy wrote: I would love to see Edit > Paste As Quotation. You have ⌘' and ⌥⌘' to increase/decrease the quotation level. This is a more general solution and I would like to reserve Paste variations for a pasteboard history (with shortcuts for Paste Next/Previous). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Version 1.7 keybindings file
I notice that after allowing MailMate to upgrade to 1.7 this morning, my custom key bindings file is gone. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.7 keybindings file
Got it. I have a backup. Will move that file to the proper location. Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 Android phone On October 17, 2013 8:49:12 AM Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 17 Oct 2013, at 17:41, Ralph Alvy wrote: > I notice that after allowing MailMate to upgrade to 1.7 this morning, my custom key bindings file is gone. Gustavo already gave the correct answer. I hope you had a backup. I can see that I could be more specific in the manual and clearly state that files in the application bundle should not be edited. -- Benny http://freron.com/crowdfunding2014 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] copyToMailbox: usage question
I notice that, unlike moveToMailbox, copyToMailbox doesn't produce a list box UI. In fact, it seems to do nothing at all when invoked. Does it require a mailbox argument, unlike moveToMailbox? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] copyToMailbox: usage question
As I expected. No problem. Thanks. On 17 Oct 2013, at 14:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 17 Oct 2013, at 22:53, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that, unlike moveToMailbox, copyToMailbox doesn't produce a list box UI. In fact, it seems to do nothing at all when invoked. Does it require a mailbox argument, unlike moveToMailbox? Yes, you can only copy with the GUI if you hold down ⌥ when selecting the destination mailbox (with the Move to Mailbox GUI). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailbox stops updating
I too have been noticing it, before 1.7. I would typically see an email arrive on my handheld Android device many minutes before MailMate would get it. And my INBOX is Connected on MailMate. On 21 Oct 2013, at 14:50, Alberto Caporro wrote: Just as a side note, I also noticed a similar behaviour, but it was definitely there BEFORE 1.7; I always thought it had something to do with slow or unstable network connection in one of the places I work at, but I've never been able to reach a firm conclusion. It's not so frequent, so I never cared much and never looked at the log, but I'll do that in the coming days. Alberto On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Ben Beuchler wrote: Do you have any idea when they stop updating? Maybe after a wake/sleep cycle? So far I haven't been able to identify a precipitating event; my laptop hasn't gone to sleep all day and this has happened two or three times. I have made changes to how this works in 1.7. It is likely to be a new problem. Do you have more than the INBOX in the “Connected” state? I have two accounts, the INBOX for both is in Connected state. No other folders are Connected. Keep the Activity Viewer open. When messages do not arrive then see if there is anything suspicious in the log for the connection to the INBOX (it should be in IDLE state -- bold font in the mailboxes outline). I'll try that tomorrow, thanks. -Ben ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailbox stops updating
Hmmm … I actually don't think I have seen this problem with 1.7, not that I think of it. On 21 Oct 2013, at 15:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Oct 2013, at 0:21, Ralph Alvy wrote: I too have been noticing it, before 1.7. I would typically see an email arrive on my handheld Android device many minutes before MailMate would get it. And my INBOX is Connected on MailMate. Note that 1.7 fixed a bug related to the “Connected” state (IDLE). From the release notes: * Fixed: Bug with IMAP IDLE which could result in MailMate not detecting a broken connection. Therefore, it is primarily of interest to get details about synchronization issues with 1.7. -- Benny http://freron.com/crowdfund2014/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MailMate won't stop checking inbox
Lately I'm noticing that MM just keeps checking the INBOX. I see the spinner constantly running. Running v1.7 build 3790. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate won't stop checking inbox
Hmmm…finally stopped. Please ignore. On 8 Nov 2013, at 8:57, Ralph Alvy wrote: Lately I'm noticing that MM just keeps checking the INBOX. I see the spinner constantly running. Running v1.7 build 3790. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Deleting, moving, marking as read, and threads (new user questions)
On 9 Nov 2013, at 6:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: First, hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane to get r3832 of MailMate. Then go to the General preferences pane and enable *experimental* 2.0 features. Finally, double click the “Deleted Messages” mailbox and add a rule with no conditions, but simply an action to enable “Seen”. I think that should work (and you can do the same for Junk). Works for me. Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Mavericks compatibilty
Can I safely assume MailMate will not be broken if I upgrade to Mavericks? I currently use it on Mountain Lion. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mavericks compatibilty
All good to hear. Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 Android phone ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] NNTP support.
I use Thunderbird for NNTP and MailMate for IMAP. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Search and the Junk folder
I have a folder called Junk. Not sure if it was there before Mailmate was installed, but it's there. Somehow I accidentally moved a message into that folder. I never use that folder, so it's always empty. I did a search to see where I accidentally moved that message an couldn't find it. I ended up having to go to my browser and browse messages on the email server to finally find it in the Junk folder. When I loaded up Mailmate, of course, I found that message in the Junk folder. Why doesn't the Search bar search that folder? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attachements not shown in latest build ?
Sometimes I see this happening. I think it's always when the attachment is a password-protected PDF file. In such cases, the only indication I have that there's an attachment is the paper clip icon in the attachment column. I see no attachment at the bottom of the message. On 12 Jul 2014, at 5:54, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 11 Jul 2014, at 17:54, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: I'm no longer seeing attachments on emails after updating to todays test build. Hmm, anyone else seeing this behavior? I can open them via the menu but I don't see them listed inside the message view anymore ? I've done some changes to the default CSS I think, but other than that I cannot think of any related changes. * Does it persist after restarting MailMate? * Does the Attachments column in the messages outline work? * Does it work if you downgrade to an [earlier release](http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/)? Thanks in advance. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] conversation view
I never noticed that Conversation and Thread buttons looked at more than the current folder. I'm very happy with this. Ralph On 6 Aug 2014, at 6:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 6:58, Ralph Alvy wrote: I guess it would need to also match the Subject for all messages, the way it does when you double click on the Subject field in a message. So, essentially you want to search for thread of the currently selected message? This is what the “Thread” button in the toolbar does. (I'm not saying it couldn't work differently. I just need to understand what you are requesting.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Quota indicator
I remember when I was using Thunderbird, I would see a Quota Indicator that would show me how much of my quota was reached in terms of storage on my email server. Can this be done with MailMate in a future release? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Quota indicator
Got it. Thanks for considering this. On 4 Nov 2014, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Nov 2014, at 18:49, Ralph Alvy wrote: I remember when I was using Thunderbird, I would see a Quota Indicator that would show me how much of my quota was reached in terms of storage on my email server. Can this be done with MailMate in a future release? Yes, but it has been [requested](http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/342) before and I haven't done anything yet. It is, by the way, not [supported](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2087) by all email servers. It appears though that it is now supported by Gmail. I'm not sure that it was last time I checked, but I might be wrong. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Alternative Date Format for message list
I'd love to see a future version allow for an alternative Date format for message lists. Something like this: Thu Mar 5 2015 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Alternative Date Format for message list
That works. Thanks. On 6 Mar 2015, at 3:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 5 Mar 2015, at 21:24, Ralph Alvy wrote: I'd love to see a future version allow for an alternative Date format for message lists. Something like this: Thu Mar 5 2015 Try looking into changing settings in the “Advanced...” part of the “Language & Region” System Preferences pane. MailMate itself cannot be configured to use an explicit date format. It just tries to adapt to the width of the column using the system formats. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Junk folder filling up
Forgot to post my MM version: 1.9.1 (5084) On 14 May 2015, at 12:37, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that all of a sudden, MailMate is filling up my Junk folder. Maybe I never noticed all those messages in there before. Is there a way for me to turn off MailMate’s Junk folder filter? I have my email server handling that in a different folder. SpamSieve is not enabled in my MailMate settings. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Junk folder filling up
I notice that all of a sudden, MailMate is filling up my Junk folder. Maybe I never noticed all those messages in there before. Is there a way for me to turn off MailMate’s Junk folder filter? I have my email server handling that in a different folder. SpamSieve is not enabled in my MailMate settings. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Junk folder filling up
And even if I mass select all of them and change their Junk Status to Not Junk, and then choose Move From Junk, they eventually all come back to the Junk folder. It might take some time, but they end up back there again. And when they return to the Junk folder, they’re all marked as Not Junk. On 14 May 2015, at 12:38, Ralph Alvy wrote: Forgot to post my MM version: 1.9.1 (5084) On 14 May 2015, at 12:37, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that all of a sudden, MailMate is filling up my Junk folder. Maybe I never noticed all those messages in there before. Is there a way for me to turn off MailMate’s Junk folder filter? I have my email server handling that in a different folder. SpamSieve is not enabled in my MailMate settings. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Junk folder filling up
Thanks for the informative reply. I have followed up with a support query to my email server people (Tuffmail). On 14 May 2015, at 14:27, Bill Cole wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 15:37, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that all of a sudden, MailMate is filling up my Junk folder. That seems unlikely. The "Junk" mailbox under the top-level "Mailboxes" section of the folder list is a simple merge of each of the IMAP mailboxes that MailMate has labeled as "Junk" type, one for each IMAP account. Unless you have SpamSieve enabled or have set up your own rules associated with mailboxes, MailMate only moves messages from an account's Inbox (or other folder) into what it sees as the "Junk" folder for that account when you tell it to do so. Maybe I never noticed all those messages in there before. Is there a way for me to turn off MailMate’s Junk folder filter? No, because there is *NO SUCH THING!* I have my email server handling that in a different folder. SpamSieve is not enabled in my MailMate settings. If messages are being moved from your Inbox (or anywhere else) to Junk, it is due to one of 4 things: 1. SpamSieve (which you'd need to install and enable in MM, so that's not it.) 2. A rule in MailMate associated with the mailbox that's losing messages to "Junk" 3. MailMate has the wrong "type" assigned to some IMAP "source" mailbox. 4. Some other IMAP client or server-side gadget moving messages entirely apart from MailMate. My bet is on (4), maybe mixed with (3). MM allows you to set the type of exactly one mailbox in each IMAP account to "Junk". MM moves messages in the same account to that mailbox and tags them as junk whenever you use the "Move to Junk" function. The actual IMAP mailbox may not be named Junk and you may have an IMAP mailbox named Junk that is not the one MM has labeled as THE Junk-type mailbox for that account. MM merges all Junk-type mailboxes into its own virtual "Junk" mailbox. It also does this with Archives, Drafts, Deleted Messages, and Sent Messages. If you have a server-side mechanism of some sort delivering message to a "Junk" IMAP mailbox, you should make sure that MM has that IMAP mailbox typed as Junk and not some other mailbox. You should also make sure the server gadget isn't eagerly sweeping every IMAP mailbox looking for messages to analyze and move into whatever mailbox it uses for Junk. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Junk folder filling up
Following up ... it was the email client on my Android device. Thanks again. On 14 May 2015, at 16:02, Ralph Alvy wrote: Thanks for the informative reply. I have followed up with a support query to my email server people (Tuffmail). On 14 May 2015, at 14:27, Bill Cole wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 15:37, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that all of a sudden, MailMate is filling up my Junk folder. That seems unlikely. The "Junk" mailbox under the top-level "Mailboxes" section of the folder list is a simple merge of each of the IMAP mailboxes that MailMate has labeled as "Junk" type, one for each IMAP account. Unless you have SpamSieve enabled or have set up your own rules associated with mailboxes, MailMate only moves messages from an account's Inbox (or other folder) into what it sees as the "Junk" folder for that account when you tell it to do so. Maybe I never noticed all those messages in there before. Is there a way for me to turn off MailMate’s Junk folder filter? No, because there is *NO SUCH THING!* I have my email server handling that in a different folder. SpamSieve is not enabled in my MailMate settings. If messages are being moved from your Inbox (or anywhere else) to Junk, it is due to one of 4 things: 1. SpamSieve (which you'd need to install and enable in MM, so that's not it.) 2. A rule in MailMate associated with the mailbox that's losing messages to "Junk" 3. MailMate has the wrong "type" assigned to some IMAP "source" mailbox. 4. Some other IMAP client or server-side gadget moving messages entirely apart from MailMate. My bet is on (4), maybe mixed with (3). MM allows you to set the type of exactly one mailbox in each IMAP account to "Junk". MM moves messages in the same account to that mailbox and tags them as junk whenever you use the "Move to Junk" function. The actual IMAP mailbox may not be named Junk and you may have an IMAP mailbox named Junk that is not the one MM has labeled as THE Junk-type mailbox for that account. MM merges all Junk-type mailboxes into its own virtual "Junk" mailbox. It also does this with Archives, Drafts, Deleted Messages, and Sent Messages. If you have a server-side mechanism of some sort delivering message to a "Junk" IMAP mailbox, you should make sure that MM has that IMAP mailbox typed as Junk and not some other mailbox. You should also make sure the server gadget isn't eagerly sweeping every IMAP mailbox looking for messages to analyze and move into whatever mailbox it uses for Junk. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Local Search Default
Is there a way to tell MM to use Common Headers or Body as my preferred Local Search type (in the Message List of one mailbox)? I seem to remember that this was the default for me before, but don’t remember where that was set? Ralph ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Local Search Default
On 23 Oct 2015, at 2:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: If you mean “Edit ▸ Find ▸ Mailbox Search” (advanced search of current mailbox) then you should use “Edit ▸ Find ▸ Use as Default Search”). That was it, Benny. I had that setup on my Desktop Mac but couldn’t remember how to do it for my new Macbook Pro. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] IMAP errors
Today I keep getting this error: MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 messages.”. Mailbox: “Sent”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “16600”. I'm not sure what to do about it. It happens on my desktop Mac Mini but not my Macbook Pro. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] IMAP errors
I ended up telling MailMate to permanently ignore such errors. Other mail clients see that message, including MailMate on my other computer. It doesn't see it on this one. And other email clients see that message on this computer, like Mac Mail. I even moved that message with another email client to a different folder to see if that would cause MailMate to see it. No luck. I later forced a MailMate index rebuild, and that didn't resolve it. Except, now MailMail takes a lot of time with its spinner, which used to result in that error message, but now it doesn't because I told it to stop issuing that message. Should I just uninstall MailMail and completely delete all its mail, and then reinstall? On 20 Feb 2016, at 12:39, Ralph Alvy wrote: Today I keep getting this error: MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 messages.”. Mailbox: “Sent”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “16600”. I'm not sure what to do about it. It happens on my desktop Mac Mini but not my Macbook Pro. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] IMAP errors
The message of concern here was rejected by the recipient's server for large attachment, should that make a difference. --- Sent from my Android phone. On February 20, 2016 4:48:12 PM "Ralph Alvy" wrote: I ended up telling MailMate to permanently ignore such errors. Other mail clients see that message, including MailMate on my other computer. It doesn't see it on this one. And other email clients see that message on this computer, like Mac Mail. I even moved that message with another email client to a different folder to see if that would cause MailMate to see it. No luck. I later forced a MailMate index rebuild, and that didn't resolve it. Except, now MailMail takes a lot of time with its spinner, which used to result in that error message, but now it doesn't because I told it to stop issuing that message. Should I just uninstall MailMail and completely delete all its mail, and then reinstall? On 20 Feb 2016, at 12:39, Ralph Alvy wrote: Today I keep getting this error: MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 messages.”. Mailbox: “Sent”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “16600”. I'm not sure what to do about it. It happens on my desktop Mac Mini but not my Macbook Pro. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] IMAP errors
I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling MailMate, making sure to delete all its messages by deleting the MailMate folder in the Application Support folder. Still have this problem, of course. See inline comments. On 21 Feb 2016, at 3:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 21 Feb 2016, at 1:48, Ralph Alvy wrote: Today I keep getting this error: MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 messages.”. Mailbox: “Sent”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “16600”. This type of error is handled differently in the latest beta of MailMate. It won't really fix it, but you shouldn't get the error message. Instead MailMate replaces the email with a dummy message. Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences to try this. Just downloaded the beta after the new MailMate install ran all night downloading messages. This time I got the same sort of warning but pointing to a different message UUID. And the problem message from before is sitting in my folder without being a dummy message. It's the real message. When I got the warning this time, I hit Temporarily Ignore and then exited MailMate and loaded MailMate again, hoping to generate the warning again so I can do what you suggested later in this reply. I ended up telling MailMate to permanently ignore such errors. Other mail clients see that message, including MailMate on my other computer. It doesn't see it on this one. And other email clients see that message on this computer, like Mac Mail. Apple Mail might work because it asks for the message in a different way, but it's strange if it works in MailMate on another machine (if it's the same revision). Both Apple Mail and PostBox downloaded the problem message. MailMate didn't. I even moved that message with another email client to a different folder to see if that would cause MailMate to see it. No luck. If you hold down ⇧ when clicking “Retry” then a log file should be generated on your Desktop. I'd like to see that to see exactly what the server reply is. I have seen a message here and there on my Desktop that MailMate put there, but never knew why it was there and deleted it. The next time I see that MailMate warning, I'll click Shift-Retry and send you what is dropped on my Desktop. I later forced a MailMate index rebuild, and that didn't resolve it. My general advice is never to do this unless I've explicitly suggested it. For most types of problems it won't make a difference and it'll be a waste of time/resources. Except, now MailMail takes a lot of time with its spinner, which used to result in that error message, but now it doesn't because I told it to stop issuing that message. Should I just uninstall MailMail and completely delete all its mail, and then reinstall? No, you can change the “always ignore” setting by removing the line with `ignoreFailedUIDs` from this file (when MailMate is not running): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP//State.plist If the problem then returns then we can debug it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] IMAP errors
Benny, How can I locate the dummy message you refer to below? How will I even know one was generated? Ralph On 21 Feb 2016, at 7:45, Ralph Alvy wrote: I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling MailMate, making sure to delete all its messages by deleting the MailMate folder in the Application Support folder. Still have this problem, of course. See inline comments. On 21 Feb 2016, at 3:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 21 Feb 2016, at 1:48, Ralph Alvy wrote: Today I keep getting this error: MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 messages.”. Mailbox: “Sent”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “16600”. This type of error is handled differently in the latest beta of MailMate. It won't really fix it, but you shouldn't get the error message. Instead MailMate replaces the email with a dummy message. Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences to try this. Just downloaded the beta after the new MailMate install ran all night downloading messages. This time I got the same sort of warning but pointing to a different message UUID. And the problem message from before is sitting in my folder without being a dummy message. It's the real message. When I got the warning this time, I hit Temporarily Ignore and then exited MailMate and loaded MailMate again, hoping to generate the warning again so I can do what you suggested later in this reply. I ended up telling MailMate to permanently ignore such errors. Other mail clients see that message, including MailMate on my other computer. It doesn't see it on this one. And other email clients see that message on this computer, like Mac Mail. Apple Mail might work because it asks for the message in a different way, but it's strange if it works in MailMate on another machine (if it's the same revision). Both Apple Mail and PostBox downloaded the problem message. MailMate didn't. I even moved that message with another email client to a different folder to see if that would cause MailMate to see it. No luck. If you hold down ⇧ when clicking “Retry” then a log file should be generated on your Desktop. I'd like to see that to see exactly what the server reply is. I have seen a message here and there on my Desktop that MailMate put there, but never knew why it was there and deleted it. The next time I see that MailMate warning, I'll click Shift-Retry and send you what is dropped on my Desktop. I later forced a MailMate index rebuild, and that didn't resolve it. My general advice is never to do this unless I've explicitly suggested it. For most types of problems it won't make a difference and it'll be a waste of time/resources. Except, now MailMail takes a lot of time with its spinner, which used to result in that error message, but now it doesn't because I told it to stop issuing that message. Should I just uninstall MailMail and completely delete all its mail, and then reinstall? No, you can change the “always ignore” setting by removing the line with `ignoreFailedUIDs` from this file (when MailMate is not running): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP//State.plist If the problem then returns then we can debug it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails
I notice that if I have a Send (with an attachment) running, and decide to Cancel or Delete it while it’s in Drafts because it’s taking too long, this cannot be done. Cancel has no obvious effect, and Delete deletes the entry in Drafts but it continues to Send to completion. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails
Here’s where it becomes an issue. I’m in a location where SMTP is too slow for the attachment I want to email, but I didn’t realize it. Too late. I just hit Send. I’d like to be able stop it when I see it taking forever in Drafts, and just send them a Dropbox link instead. On 24 Jul 2016, at 8:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 21 Jul 2016, at 21:02, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that if I have a Send (with an attachment) running, and decide to Cancel or Delete it while it’s in Drafts because it’s taking too long, this cannot be done. Cancel has no obvious effect, and Delete deletes the entry in Drafts but it continues to Send to completion. That is correct. Ideally, I guess MailMate should signal the SMTP connection to abort. My own connection is too fast to ever make this relevant :) -- Benny (On vacation, please be patient.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails
Thanks, Benny. On 24 Jul 2016, at 14:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Jul 2016, at 18:09, Ralph Alvy wrote: On 24 Jul 2016, at 8:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: That is correct. Ideally, I guess MailMate should signal the SMTP connection to abort. My own connection is too fast to ever make this relevant :) Here’s where it becomes an issue. I’m in a location where SMTP is too slow for the attachment I want to email, but I didn’t realize it. Too late. I just hit Send. I’d like to be able stop it when I see it taking forever in Drafts, and just send them a Dropbox link instead. I did not mean to imply that the problem wasn't real. I just don't (or very rarely) experience it myself. This is true for many issues/features/bugs. I did note the problem (and some notes about how to best handle it). -- Benny (On vacation, please be patient.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails
This wouldn’t handle this situation, where I don’t realize the connection is slow until I see the long period the mail is sitting in Drafts during the Send process. On 25 Jul 2016, at 6:28, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 24 Jul 2016, at 12:09, Ralph Alvy wrote: Here’s where it becomes an issue. I’m in a location where SMTP is too slow for the attachment I want to email, but I didn’t realize it. Too late. I just hit Send. I’d like to be able stop it when I see it taking forever in Drafts, and just send them a Dropbox link instead. A possible solution to such problems is having a default delay on sending. (Some other app does this, I think, but I forget which). So your messages would go out after X seconds, instead of right away. Then you could cancel the send within that time period. Note that this is different from a scheduled send (which would also be nice). John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Changing default app to open mail messages
Have you tried RightClicking on the a message on your hard drive and choosing Get Info, and setting the default there? On 1 Apr 2017, at 15:48, Dave C wrote: I want to change the email app that opens messages when I click on them (as when Spotlight gives one in the results of a search) so MailMate opens. Currently Apple Mail opens when I double-click on a message. I searched the net and see to open Apple Mail (even though that’s not the app I want as a default), open preferences, and change the default in there. Problem is that the default in the field in Mail preferences says “MailMate”. I tried changing it to Mail and back to MM but no joy. Has anyone had to deal with this before? Thanks Dave MailMate 1.9.6 Mail 10.3 MacOS 10.12.4 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
Before typing your search string, hit ‘/‘. You’ll then be given a search box for the current mailbox. On 16 Apr 2017, at 22:07, Dave C wrote: When I type terms in the search field (top right corner of the viewer window) and press Return, MM always defaults to All Messages. Most of the time I am in a mailbox and I’m interested in finding my term in that mailbox. I now have to click the mailbox to limit the search. It’s 99 percent of the time I want to limit the search to the current mailbox. Benny, could you make this a choice (maybe a checkbox next to the search field for “All Messages”, or in preferences give a choice for defaulting search to the current mailbox or All Messages)? Or just change the default to the current mailbox. How about everyone else? What’s your vote? Thanks, Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
Then try Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:57, John Cooper wrote: Ralph Alvy wrote (at 22:30 on 16 Apr 2017): Before typing your search string, hit ‘/‘. You’ll then be given a search box for the current mailbox. This doesn't work for me. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
You don’t use the ‘/‘ in the Search Bar. You hit it when not in the Search Bar, to call the MailBox Search Bar. On 17 Apr 2017, at 7:50, John Cooper wrote: Ralph Alvy wrote (at 7:18 on 17 Apr 2017): Then try Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F Yes, I know. Just reporting that the cool super-secret slash shortcut in the search bar doesn't return the indicated response. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
Doing it this way is very quick and you never need to use your mouse. On 17 Apr 2017, at 8:19, John Cooper wrote: Ralph Alvy wrote (at 8:07 on 17 Apr 2017): You don’t use the ‘/‘ in the Search Bar. You hit it when not in the Search Bar, to call the MailBox Search Bar. Aha! Thank you for clarifying. You had written "before typing the search string," which I took to mean immediately before, i.e. while the search box is activated for input. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote: On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote: Let me see if I’m doing this right: 1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not click in the Search field. 2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with blinking cursor? Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“. Sane here. Is someone using Gmail shortcuts? I don't have these enabled... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
I guess you can always just use the built-in shortcuts: MailBox Search: Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F All Files Search: Opt-Cmd-F On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote: Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote: On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote: Let me see if I’m doing this right: 1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not click in the Search field. 2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with blinking cursor? Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“. Sane here. Is someone using Gmail shortcuts? I don't have these enabled... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote: Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know what keybindings are…) Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM? Dave -=-=-=- On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote: Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote: On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote: Let me see if I’m doing this right: 1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not click in the Search field. 2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with blinking cursor? Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“. Sane here. Is someone using Gmail shortcuts? I don't have these enabled... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
Regarding that document I referenced, I created my own Custom Keybindings file for MailMate and placed it here: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/ On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:15, Ralph Alvy wrote: https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote: Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know what keybindings are…) Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM? Dave -=-=-=- On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote: Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote: On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote: Let me see if I’m doing this right: 1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not click in the Search field. 2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with blinking cursor? Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“. Sane here. Is someone using Gmail shortcuts? I don't have these enabled... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
The Default Mailbox is a setting for the Main Search Bar you can click on. It’s also the Search Bar called by Opt-Cmd-F You can set its Default Mailbox by clicking on the drop down widget in the left portion of that bar. None of this has anything to do with the Mailbox Search Bar, which is an entirely different Search Bar, called by Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F The latter works on the Current MailBox, whatever that is at the moment, not necessarily the Default Mailbox. I just happen to have a special single key that calls that box: \ On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:36, Dave C wrote: I’ll delve into the manual later, if need be. Just to clarify: you created a keybinding that uses “/“ to activate the search field? Does your keybinding also determine the default mailbox to search? Dave -=-=-=- https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote: Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know what keybindings are…) Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM? Dave -=-=-=- On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote: Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote: On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote: Let me see if I’m doing this right: 1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not click in the Search field. 2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with blinking cursor? Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“. Sane here. Is someone using Gmail shortcuts? I don't have these enabled... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching
Correction: that special key is forward slash, not back slash. --- Sent from my Android phone On April 17, 2017 12:12:43 PM "Ralph Alvy" wrote: The Default Mailbox is a setting for the Main Search Bar you can click on. It’s also the Search Bar called by Opt-Cmd-F You can set its Default Mailbox by clicking on the drop down widget in the left portion of that bar. None of this has anything to do with the Mailbox Search Bar, which is an entirely different Search Bar, called by Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F The latter works on the Current MailBox, whatever that is at the moment, not necessarily the Default Mailbox. I just happen to have a special single key that calls that box: \ On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:36, Dave C wrote: I’ll delve into the manual later, if need be. Just to clarify: you created a keybinding that uses “/“ to activate the search field? Does your keybinding also determine the default mailbox to search? Dave -=-=-=- https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote: Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know what keybindings are…) Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM? Dave -=-=-=- On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote: Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file: "/" = "mailboxSearch:"; On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote: On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote: Let me see if I’m doing this right: 1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not click in the Search field. 2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with blinking cursor? Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“. Sane here. Is someone using Gmail shortcuts? I don't have these enabled... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Drag and Drop Attachment oddity
Lately I have noticed that dragging and dropping an image file to the message I have composed results in a textual reference to that file inserted wherever I placed the mouse in the current message during the drag operation. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Drag and Drop Attachment oddity
Thanks, Sherif. I just noticed that I can keep Markup selected if I uncheck Attachment Check in the Preferences for Composer. On 24 Apr 2017, at 8:36, Sherif Soliman wrote: On 22 Apr 2017, at 17:03, Ralph Alvy wrote: Lately I have noticed that dragging and dropping an image file to the message I have composed results in a textual reference to that file inserted wherever I placed the mouse in the current message during the drag operation. If I understand what you're describing correctly, it's something like ``. This happens if you have the Markdown markup syntax chosen in the toolbar that contains the Signature and other options - MailMate will add a reference to the image in Markdown syntax. You can turn that off by choosing Plain Text markup syntax in the composer window before dragging your image file into the message, or -- I think -- in Preferences > Composer pane > Markup Syntax = None. Sherif ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags not stored with IMAP?
I'm told my server supports IMAP Keywords. Until this morning, I didn't use any MailMate Tags. This morning, on one machine, I tagged a number of messages with various tags in MailMate. On that machine I notice that all those tags are mapped with IMAP keywords in the Tags Preferences window. Now I go to my second machine and notice no tags at all in the Tags Preferences window. Do I have to manually enter each tag in that window? I thought if my server supports IMAP Keywords, I would see that list in the Tags Preferences window populated, and all my tagged messages showing up as tagged. On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:17, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 2 Feb 2017, at 18:30, John Cooper wrote: I'm surprised to find that the tags I apply on my main computer aren't attached to the same messages on my secondary computer; they appear to be machine-specific. I take it that tags aren't supported by the IMAP standard? They are stored on the server, at least on the servers I'm using. But remember that you have to "connect" the "Display Name"/Icon with the IMAP Keyword on each computer (the "Tags" preference pane). - jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags not stored with IMAP?
I just copied the Tags.plist from one machine to the other and now it's fine. Is that only way to do this? Sounds like Tags are not synchronized. Perhaps one day MailMate will allow for Dropbox sync with certain settings, like Tag Preferences. On 30 May 2017, at 11:11, Ralph Alvy wrote: I'm told my server supports IMAP Keywords. Until this morning, I didn't use any MailMate Tags. This morning, on one machine, I tagged a number of messages with various tags in MailMate. On that machine I notice that all those tags are mapped with IMAP keywords in the Tags Preferences window. Now I go to my second machine and notice no tags at all in the Tags Preferences window. Do I have to manually enter each tag in that window? I thought if my server supports IMAP Keywords, I would see that list in the Tags Preferences window populated, and all my tagged messages showing up as tagged. On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:17, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 2 Feb 2017, at 18:30, John Cooper wrote: I'm surprised to find that the tags I apply on my main computer aren't attached to the same messages on my secondary computer; they appear to be machine-specific. I take it that tags aren't supported by the IMAP standard? They are stored on the server, at least on the servers I'm using. But remember that you have to "connect" the "Display Name"/Icon with the IMAP Keyword on each computer (the "Tags" preference pane). - jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags not stored with IMAP?
Well, now that I have my tags list in both devices, adding one or two here and there manually as needed, is not a rough thing to do. On 31 May 2017, at 10:08, Robert Brenstein wrote: Some users use iCloud, some don’t. Some use Dropbox, some don’t. Some use NextCloud, some don’t. The list goes on…The point is that using cloud space for syncing is not that trivial since different users will want their favorite cloud space supported as it was already discussed on this list. Personally, I think that we would be better of using server-based approach, either controlled centrally by Benny or using our own service providers (using IMAP technology as the base, for example). On 31 May 2017, at 17:56, Jody Klymak wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 22:32, Jody Klymak wrote: Perhaps one day MailMate will allow for Dropbox sync with certain settings, like Tag Preferences. Isn’t that what iCloud is supposed to do for mac apps? I’m not a mac developer, and I’m not an expert on all the data that an app like MailMate has to store, but I thought one of the cool things about iCloud is that it gives developers ways to share application settings and document seamlessly between machines? as in https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/General/Conceptual/iCloudDesignGuide/Chapters/DesigningForKey-ValueDataIniCloud.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012094-CH7-SW1 … of course the developer still has to do something sensible (and presumably hard) if someone was offline and made changes. Cheers, Jody ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Tags and Other
I notice that occasionally I look in my Tabs Smart MailBox and see Other. When I look inside Other, I find a message or two that are clearly tagged properly, but they appear in Other. Am I doing something wrong? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Tags and Organize By Thread
I notice that when I choose a particular Tag in the Tabs Smart MailBox, that View is unaffected by the Organize By Thread setting. If it’s already organized by thread, it remains that way no matter what I with the View dropdown menu. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags and Organize By Thread
Never mind. I see that I have to select at least one message to get Organized By Thread to work. On 9 Jul 2017, at 10:01, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that when I choose a particular Tag in the Tabs Smart MailBox, that View is unaffected by the Organize By Thread setting. If it’s already organized by thread, it remains that way no matter what I with the View dropdown menu. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags and Other
I did notice yesterday, when I had a single item in Other, if I replied to that person using that email, that email moved out of Other and into the appropriate Tags subfolder. On 10 Jul 2017, at 2:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Jul 2017, at 18:51, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that occasionally I look in my Tabs Smart MailBox and see Other. When I look inside Other, I find a message or two that are clearly tagged properly, but they appear in Other. Am I doing something wrong? Probably not. There have been and may still be some bugs in the Submailboxes feature, in particular, when dealing with multi-value headers. This includes tags which is based on IMAP keywords which is saved in a virtual header named `#flags` (low level stuff). First try the latest test release: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. If you still see the issue then contact me directly in order to debug -- especially if you can reliably reproduce the issue. Thanks in advance. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags and Other
On my MacBook Pro, I updated MailMate to the latest beta and no longer see the problem. This afternoon I loaded up MM on my Mac Mini and noticed tons of Other items in the Tags Smart MailBox, but forgot that I didn't update that MM. After updating to the latest beta, the problem disappeared. So, how stable is the Beta branch? Is it suitable for a production environment? I may must change my preferences to include the Beta branch. On 10 Jul 2017, at 2:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Jul 2017, at 18:51, Ralph Alvy wrote: I notice that occasionally I look in my Tabs Smart MailBox and see Other. When I look inside Other, I find a message or two that are clearly tagged properly, but they appear in Other. Am I doing something wrong? Probably not. There have been and may still be some bugs in the Submailboxes feature, in particular, when dealing with multi-value headers. This includes tags which is based on IMAP keywords which is saved in a virtual header named `#flags` (low level stuff). First try the latest test release: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. If you still see the issue then contact me directly in order to debug -- especially if you can reliably reproduce the issue. Thanks in advance. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] What is a Red message?
What does it mean when a message is red and can’t be deleted? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] What is a Red message?
I also cannot move that message to a different folder either. On 2 Aug 2017, at 8:24, Ralph Alvy wrote: > What does it mean when a message is red and can’t be deleted? > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] What is a Red message?
Never mind. Now it’s gone, after restarting MM. On 2 Aug 2017, at 12:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: > I also cannot move that message to a different folder either. > > On 2 Aug 2017, at 8:24, Ralph Alvy wrote: > >> What does it mean when a message is red and can’t be deleted? >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] What is a Red message?
Got it. Thanks. On 2 Aug 2017, at 16:30, Bill Cole wrote: On 2 Aug 2017, at 15:28, Ralph Alvy wrote: Never mind. Now it’s gone, after restarting MM. On 2 Aug 2017, at 12:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: I also cannot move that message to a different folder either. On 2 Aug 2017, at 8:24, Ralph Alvy wrote: What does it mean when a message is red and can’t be deleted? A red message is one for which MM has a pending server-side action (move, delete, tag change, etc.) that is not yet complete. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Sending to an email list
Is there a way to store a list of email addresses and easily insert that list in the To or BCC field? I used to be able to do that in some previous email client (I think Thunderbird). Right now, I’m saving such a list in a text file and pasting its contents into the To or BCC field. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Sending to an email list
Good idea about using my text expander. That’s what I’ll do for now. I use Alfred. On 17 Oct 2018, at 12:13, Robert Goldman wrote: On 17 Oct 2018, at 14:09, Ralph Alvy wrote: Is there a way to store a list of email addresses and easily insert that list in the To or BCC field? I used to be able to do that in some previous email client (I think Thunderbird). Right now, I’m saving such a list in a text file and pasting its contents into the To or BCC field. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate The only way I know of to do this is to add a group to my Mac's contacts, and use the group name. I suppose you could also use one of those text expanders for the Mac. Someone else will probably come up with a better mechanism ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do I do this? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: > I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate > download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do I do > this? > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
Can't do that. MM never stops refreshing the message list. Looks like I have to delete and recreate the account. > On 5 Nov 2018, at 13:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: > >> Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? > > That would work. You could also select the top-level node for the > account in the Sources list, select all of the messages, and use > Message->Reset to make MM forget them all and re-fetch them. > > > >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: >> >>> I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate >>> download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do >>> I do >>> this? >>> >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
To delete my mail account in MM, do I do Remove Source on the highest node in the Sources List? > Can't do that. MM never stops refreshing the message list. Looks like I > have to delete and recreate the account. > >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 13:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: >> >>> Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? >> >> That would work. You could also select the top-level node for the >> account in the Sources list, select all of the messages, and use >> Message->Reset to make MM forget them all and re-fetch them. >> >> >> >>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>> >>>> I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate >>>> download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do >>>> I do >>>> this? >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> mailmate mailing list >>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
I removed my mail account from MM successfully and re-created it. MM is not getting message from the IMAP server. I notice that Sent and Trash folders in my Smart Mailboxes list no longer see messages in my Sent and Trash folders in my Sources. The MailBox Type for Sent is Sent Messages and the MailBox Type for Trash is Deleted Messages. I don't see a menu item that allows me to change this. I'd like Sent to point to Sent, and Trash to point to Trash. > To delete my mail account in MM, do I do Remove Source on the highest node > in the Sources List? > >> Can't do that. MM never stops refreshing the message list. Looks like I >> have to delete and recreate the account. >> >>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 13:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>> >>>> Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? >>> >>> That would work. You could also select the top-level node for the >>> account in the Sources list, select all of the messages, and use >>> Message->Reset to make MM forget them all and re-fetch them. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate >>>>> download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do >>>>> I do >>>>> this? >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>> ___ >>>> mailmate mailing list >>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> >> >> >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
Bad typo. I meant to say "MM is NOW getting messages from the IMAP server." > I removed my mail account from MM successfully and re-created it. MM is > not getting message from the IMAP server. I notice that Sent and Trash > folders in my Smart Mailboxes list no longer see messages in my Sent and > Trash folders in my Sources. The MailBox Type for Sent is Sent Messages > and the MailBox Type for Trash is Deleted Messages. I don't see a menu > item that allows me to change this. I'd like Sent to point to Sent, and > Trash to point to Trash. > >> To delete my mail account in MM, do I do Remove Source on the highest >> node >> in the Sources List? >> >>> Can't do that. MM never stops refreshing the message list. Looks like I >>> have to delete and recreate the account. >>> >>>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 13:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? >>>> >>>> That would work. You could also select the top-level node for the >>>> account in the Sources list, select all of the messages, and use >>>> Message->Reset to make MM forget them all and re-fetch them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate >>>>>> download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do >>>>>> I do >>>>>> this? >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>>> ___ >>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>> ___ >>>> mailmate mailing list >>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> >> >> >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
MM was never able to get all my messages. Kept getting stuck on certain folders. I have, for now, switched to Apple Mail, until I can figure out what to do to get MM running okay again. This all happened after Tuffmail.com upgraded my IMAP server. Here's what the owner said about this: > During the upgrade some mailboxes did not have the bits set that denote that > the mailbox uses the alternate namespace rather than the standard namespace. > > https://manage.tuffmail.net/index.php?help=alt-namespace > > Some Mac/Iphone clients saw the namespace change and lost their minds. When > the namespace error was fixed the Mac/Iphone clients could not deal with it. > Winblows clients that I have tested, Outlook and Thunderbird, see a namespace > change and resync. RA > On Nov 5, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Ralph Alvy wrote: > > Bad typo. I meant to say > > "MM is NOW getting messages from the IMAP server." > >> I removed my mail account from MM successfully and re-created it. MM is >> not getting message from the IMAP server. I notice that Sent and Trash >> folders in my Smart Mailboxes list no longer see messages in my Sent and >> Trash folders in my Sources. The MailBox Type for Sent is Sent Messages >> and the MailBox Type for Trash is Deleted Messages. I don't see a menu >> item that allows me to change this. I'd like Sent to point to Sent, and >> Trash to point to Trash. >> >>> To delete my mail account in MM, do I do Remove Source on the highest >>> node >>> in the Sources List? >>> >>>> Can't do that. MM never stops refreshing the message list. Looks like I >>>> have to delete and recreate the account. >>>> >>>>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 13:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? >>>>> >>>>> That would work. You could also select the top-level node for the >>>>> account in the Sources list, select all of the messages, and use >>>>> Message->Reset to make MM forget them all and re-fetch them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate >>>>>>> download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do >>>>>>> I do >>>>>>> this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>>> ___ >>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> mailmate mailing list >>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> >> >> >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I re-download all messages?
Uninstalled MM (completely) and reinstalled MM and now all is working fine again. All messages came in. On 5 Nov 2018, at 16:35, Ralph Alvy wrote: MM was never able to get all my messages. Kept getting stuck on certain folders. I have, for now, switched to Apple Mail, until I can figure out what to do to get MM running okay again. This all happened after Tuffmail.com upgraded my IMAP server. Here's what the owner said about this: During the upgrade some mailboxes did not have the bits set that denote that the mailbox uses the alternate namespace rather than the standard namespace. https://manage.tuffmail.net/index.php?help=alt-namespace Some Mac/Iphone clients saw the namespace change and lost their minds. When the namespace error was fixed the Mac/Iphone clients could not deal with it. Winblows clients that I have tested, Outlook and Thunderbird, see a namespace change and resync. RA On Nov 5, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Ralph Alvy wrote: Bad typo. I meant to say "MM is NOW getting messages from the IMAP server." I removed my mail account from MM successfully and re-created it. MM is not getting message from the IMAP server. I notice that Sent and Trash folders in my Smart Mailboxes list no longer see messages in my Sent and Trash folders in my Sources. The MailBox Type for Sent is Sent Messages and the MailBox Type for Trash is Deleted Messages. I don't see a menu item that allows me to change this. I'd like Sent to point to Sent, and Trash to point to Trash. To delete my mail account in MM, do I do Remove Source on the highest node in the Sources List? Can't do that. MM never stops refreshing the message list. Looks like I have to delete and recreate the account. On 5 Nov 2018, at 13:27, Ralph Alvy wrote: Do I just delete my mail account in MailMate and recreate it? That would work. You could also select the top-level node for the account in the Sources list, select all of the messages, and use Message->Reset to make MM forget them all and re-fetch them. On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:55, Ralph Alvy wrote: I am having problems that look like I need to simply have MailMate download all my message from scratch. Rebuilding didn't help. How do I do this? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
