paralells

2012-07-17 Thread deedra waters
Does anyone know if this works with voiceover? i've heard conflicting 
things.


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ocr/scanning and mac?

2012-07-21 Thread deedra waters
Does anyone know of scanning/ocr software for mac similar to openbook? 
Trying to find something so i can scan mail etc


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spotify

2015-03-23 Thread deedra waters
I’m curious as to what folks use here for spotify? I’ve looked at a couple 
things here most of which are  linux based clients i’ve played with in my vm. I 
also looked at the spotify web player, but dont really like that either as the 
buttons or rather a lot of buttons aren’t labeled properly in the flash player. 
Any thoughts?


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Re: spotify

2015-03-23 Thread deedra waters
>From t looks of blindspot it runs on windows. that  means it’s unuseable to me 
>as i dont run windows. Any other ideas?


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> On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Blake Sinnett  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Actually, there's another Spotify client called Blindspot. 
> http://blindspot.codeplex.com
> 
> Thanks,
> Blake
> 
> 
> --
> From: "Tim Emmons" 
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:20 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: spotify
> 
>> The only way so far guys, for Spotify to run on the desktop is if you have 
>> the premium subscription and can use the connect menu. You choose your 
>> computer from the list and it sends all control to the Mac or Pc app. 
>> However, if you perform searches or playlist stuff, you have to interface it 
>> through the app but you can stream it through the computer independently 
>> through their connect menu. Hope this helps and possibly clears some things 
>> up. Take care and talk to you soon. PS, I used it for a while but ended up 
>> going back to iTunes Radio because I don’t have to work at it so hard to get 
>> what I want out of it, just a little tweaking here and there and I can get 
>> all I want and more, plus I can interface it from anything I use from the 
>> apple Tv, to my mac, iPhone and iPad. Thanks and take care. Talk to you soon.
>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Greg Aikens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would also be interested to know if others have had success with desktop 
>>> clients. I have used the web player but I can’t get VO to consistently read 
>>> the different parts of the page when I want to search for new music etc.
>>> 
>>> I currently use the IOS app.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Amber Wallenstein  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried a few desk top players for Spotify, but didn't have any luck. The 
>>>> only way I can use it is through the iOS app.
>>>> Wish I had better news.
>>>> Amber
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:24 AM, deedra waters  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m curious as to what folks use here for spotify? I’ve looked at a 
>>>>> couple things here most of which are  linux based clients i’ve played 
>>>>> with in my vm. I also looked at the spotify web player, but dont really 
>>>>> like that either as the buttons or rather a lot of buttons aren’t labeled 
>>>>> properly in the flash player. Any thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: spotify

2015-03-23 Thread deedra waters
no i-device asside from the mac and an ancient iphone 3gs that serves as our 
alarm clock. Most of the apps in the app store today i dout will run on it 
since it’s running ios6


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> On Mar 23, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
> If you have an iPhone or other iOS device, you might try using Spotify on 
> that device. It’s been a while since I used it on my iPhone, but it was quite 
> accessible although with a few quirks.
> 
> Take care and have a great day.
> Jamie Pauls
> jamiepa...@gmail.com <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:36 PM, deedra waters > <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> From t looks of blindspot it runs on windows. that  means it’s unuseable to 
>> me as i dont run windows. Any other ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Blake Sinnett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Actually, there's another Spotify client called Blindspot. 
>>> http://blindspot.codeplex.com
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Blake
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> From: "Tim Emmons" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:20 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: spotify
>>> 
>>>> The only way so far guys, for Spotify to run on the desktop is if you have 
>>>> the premium subscription and can use the connect menu. You choose your 
>>>> computer from the list and it sends all control to the Mac or Pc app. 
>>>> However, if you perform searches or playlist stuff, you have to interface 
>>>> it through the app but you can stream it through the computer 
>>>> independently through their connect menu. Hope this helps and possibly 
>>>> clears some things up. Take care and talk to you soon. PS, I used it for a 
>>>> while but ended up going back to iTunes Radio because I don’t have to work 
>>>> at it so hard to get what I want out of it, just a little tweaking here 
>>>> and there and I can get all I want and more, plus I can interface it from 
>>>> anything I use from the apple Tv, to my mac, iPhone and iPad. Thanks and 
>>>> take care. Talk to you soon.
>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Greg Aikens  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would also be interested to know if others have had success with 
>>>>> desktop clients. I have used the web player but I can’t get VO to 
>>>>> consistently read the different parts of the page when I want to search 
>>>>> for new music etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I currently use the IOS app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Greg
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Amber Wallenstein  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried a few desk top players for Spotify, but didn't have any luck. 
>>>>>> The only way I can use it is through the iOS app.
>>>>>> Wish I had better news.
>>>>>> Amber
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:24 AM, deedra waters  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m curious as to what folks use here for spotify? I’ve looked at a 
>>>>>>> couple things here most of which are  linux based clients i’ve played 
>>>>>>> with in my vm. I also looked at the spotify web player, but dont really 
>>>>>>> like that either as the buttons or rather a lot of buttons aren’t 
>>>>>>> labeled properly in the flash player. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: spotify

2015-03-23 Thread deedra waters
well you could do what i did in the end, i run a vm of arch linux. ended up 
running spotifyd in the arch vm along with a script my husband is working on to 
control it. Nice service but currently can’t use the radio portion of it. End 
result i create giant playlists and works well enough:)


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> On Mar 23, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> I think you can get Deezer if you use sonos connect also, Its a streamer box 
> you connect to the router and your amplifier you already have. Pretty 
> expensive box. Looks like it is only accesible with Voice Over running an IOS 
> device, wich is very good, but should be able to run on a mac too. The manual 
> states that the mac/pc version is compatible with Jaws screen reader. 
> 
> The web playter from TIDAL on tidal.com should work fine on google chrome. 
> Last time i heard you don’t get cd quality on Safari. Only Chrome. Don’t know 
> how well TIDAL works with IOS 8 or Yosemeti osx.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 23. mars 2015 kl. 17:47 skrev Brent Harding :
> 
> I'd like to use that, but I think in the states, you can only sign up either 
> if you have Sonos speakers or with Metro PCS, and I don't have either of 
> those.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: spotify
> 
> 
> Hi!
> I don’t use Spotify at all anymore.
> There’s a new service called Deezer music which at least for the iphone works 
> great.
> /A
>> 23 mar 2015 kl. 11:24 skrev deedra waters :
>> 
>> I’m curious as to what folks use here for spotify? I’ve looked at a couple 
>> things here most of which are  linux based clients i’ve played with in my 
>> vm. I also looked at the spotify web player, but dont really like that 
>> either as the buttons or rather a lot of buttons aren’t labeled properly in 
>> the flash player. Any thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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the reminders app

2015-04-15 Thread deedra waters
I need to learn how to use this app for a couple of different reasons. Is there 
someone who might be willing to write up a howto or so on how to use the 
reminders app? I can’t figure out how to do more then hit command n for new and 
then i get lost because i can’t figure out what to do after that. Some hints 
and tips would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: the reminders app

2015-04-16 Thread deedra waters
I’m sending it to the mac list…… so on the mac.:)


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> On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:50 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hey Deedra. Are you wanting to learn how to use reminders on an iPhone or 
> Mac? If on an iPhone, you could just have Siri set the reminder.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:34 AM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I need to learn how to use this app for a couple of different reasons. Is 
>> there someone who might be willing to write up a howto or so on how to use 
>> the reminders app? I can’t figure out how to do more then hit command n for 
>> new and then i get lost because i can’t figure out what to do after that. 
>> Some hints and tips would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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reminder type thing?

2015-04-21 Thread deedra waters
Before anyone asks, no i dont think reminder app will do this.:)

I need an app or similar that i can set to remind me every x number of hours to 
do something. I tried looking at the reminders app but  it seems to only remind 
 by day week or year or month. does anyone have ideas here?
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Re: reminder type thing?

2015-04-22 Thread deedra waters
Sorry telling me to use an iphone on a mac list is not acceptable. I dont have 
an iphone and i refuse to buy one. that’s not the point here however. telling 
someone to use another device for something i should be able to do on my mac 
isn’t acceptable. If you dont know of an app for this then simpley dont speak 
up. people, this isn’t an iphone list stop pointing people to iphones and 
asking iphone questions here. again this isn’t an iphone list it’s a mac list 
if i ask a question here i dont want an iphone answer.


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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Charlie Doremus  wrote:
> 
> If you have an iPhone tell Siri to do it
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> Charlie 
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 7:02 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> Before anyone asks, no i dont think reminder app will do this.:)
>> 
>> I need an app or similar that i can set to remind me every x number of hours 
>> to do something. I tried looking at the reminders app but  it seems to only 
>> remind  by day week or year or month. does anyone have ideas here?
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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mac accessibility and amazon music/video stuff

2015-05-28 Thread deedra waters
Does anyone know if or how well  the amazon prime music/video stuff works with 
the mac? Husband and i are debating signing back up for prime but we wanted to 
know how well prime video/music works on the mac

I dont have an ios device, so, Instructions for that wont help me.


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amazon prime type question about accessibility

2015-05-29 Thread deedra waters
I’m wondering if the amazon prime music/video stuff is accessible. they have a 
show i’d like to watch but i’m wondering if the amazon video/music stuff is 
accessible to us.


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Re: amazon prime type question about accessibility

2015-05-29 Thread deedra waters
That’s exactly what i meant. do you know if the amazon music stuff is 
accessible as well? seems you can get music stuff as part of prime.


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> On May 29, 2015, at 1:43 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
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> Do you mean Amazon Instant Video? If so yes the iOS app is accessible and it 
> appears the website is accessible as well. You need either Silverlight or 
> Flash to watch any videos you purchase, rent or stream from a web browser.
>> On 29 May 2015, at 21:34, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m wondering if the amazon prime music/video stuff is accessible. they have 
>> a show i’d like to watch but i’m wondering if the amazon video/music stuff 
>> is accessible to us.
>> 
>> 
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Re: amazon prime type question about accessibility

2015-05-30 Thread deedra waters
Thanks for looking into it i’ll try and figure it out and see what i come up 
with.


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> On May 30, 2015, at 3:32 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> It appears we do not have their music service here in the UK. Quite typical 
> actually . Seriously, I cannot help because of this seemingly absent 
> feature of my prime account at least.
>> On 29 May 2015, at 23:47, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s exactly what i meant. do you know if the amazon music stuff is 
>> accessible as well? seems you can get music stuff as part of prime.
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 1:43 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you mean Amazon Instant Video? If so yes the iOS app is accessible and 
>>> it appears the website is accessible as well. You need either Silverlight 
>>> or Flash to watch any videos you purchase, rent or stream from a web 
>>> browser.
>>>> On 29 May 2015, at 21:34, deedra waters  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering if the amazon prime music/video stuff is accessible. they 
>>>> have a show i’d like to watch but i’m wondering if the amazon video/music 
>>>> stuff is accessible to us.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
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Re: amazon prime type question about accessibility

2015-05-31 Thread deedra waters
I heard something on the applevis website where you can control the video 
controls using something called intermission? I didn’t see this app anywhere 
however unless it’s not in the app store?


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> On May 30, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Grant  wrote:
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> I don't think either Flash or Silverlight content is accessible with VO, is 
> it? Given that, I would have doubts about the player controls being usable 
> with VO.
> 
> Grant
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On May 29, 2015, at 1:43 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
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>> Do you mean Amazon Instant Video? If so yes the iOS app is accessible and it 
>> appears the website is accessible as well. You need either Silverlight or 
>> Flash to watch any videos you purchase, rent or stream from a web browser.
>>> On 29 May 2015, at 21:34, deedra waters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering if the amazon prime music/video stuff is accessible. they 
>>> have a show i’d like to watch but i’m wondering if the amazon video/music 
>>> stuff is accessible to us.
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windows and vmware

2015-06-11 Thread deedra waters
so wondering if someone can help here. i can copy/paste to my mac/vm but when i 
try to copy from note pad to note pad it doesn’t do what it’s supposed to. 
control c/a/x/v all dont work and no idea why help if possible?


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Re: windows and vmware

2015-06-11 Thread deedra waters
Hmm i didn’t see anything about cmd g and when i type that it says cmd g or 
something to that effect i’ll try it again though.

as for not getting keyboards to pare i dont know both of my keyboards can work 
with vmware though i’m trying to get the mac keyboard so that it will do all 
the work so to speak i’m not carrying around 2 keyboards lol.


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> On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> How do you get the keyboard into VMWare? I thought it was cmd g.
> 
> Also do you know how you can  permanently assign a bluetooth keyboard to the 
> VMWare? I managed to get it paired. But cannot work out how to tell the Mac 
> not to use it. It is not a Mac keyboard, it is a logitech keyboard.
>> On 11 Jun 2015, at 7:06 pm, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> so wondering if someone can help here. i can copy/paste to my mac/vm but 
>> when i try to copy from note pad to note pad it doesn’t do what it’s 
>> supposed to. control c/a/x/v all dont work and no idea why help if possible?
>> 
>> 
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apple music

2015-07-13 Thread deedra waters
I’ve signed up for apple music and i’m still trying to figure out how it all 
works. if someone has any tips or a demo/podcast with some tips/instructions 
i’d appreciate it.


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Re: apple music

2015-07-13 Thread deedra waters
I should note here that i’m using it on a mac with itunes, not ios.:P


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> On Jul 13, 2015, at 11:07 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
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> I’ve signed up for apple music and i’m still trying to figure out how it all 
> works. if someone has any tips or a demo/podcast with some tips/instructions 
> i’d appreciate it.
> 
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apple music question

2015-07-13 Thread deedra waters
I dont know when apple music came in or anything like that what i do want to 
and need to know is how do you add new radio stations. i dont see an option for 
that or am i missing something? NOTE this is a mac not ios


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playlists and artists in apple music

2015-07-14 Thread deedra waters
Say i have an artist with 12 albums and i want to dump the whole thing (all the 
artists content) into a playlist is this possible or do i have to do it album 
by album?


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more apple music playlist issues.

2015-07-15 Thread deedra waters
I seem to only be able to add one  album per playlist does anyone know why this 
is and how to fix it? I’d ideally like to pull several albums into a playlist.


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my apple music/itunes/mac playlist problems

2015-07-17 Thread deedra waters
I’ve finally figured out my playlist problems. Seems that when i create a new 
playlist then go to edit it the thing renames my playlist to playlist### where 
### is the number such as playlist2 playlist3 and so on. I dont know why 
editing the playlist changes it’s name but it does and it’s annoying.:P Either 
way i thought i’d let you all know that a i’ve solved the problem but b god 
this is annoying snicker…..

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apple music and radio stations

2015-07-18 Thread deedra waters
Does anyone know if there’s a way to add artists to a current station? I know 
how to create new stations but i can’t figure out how to get the thing to let 
me add artists like pandora does. Any help would be greatly appreciated


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weird audio behavior

2015-07-18 Thread deedra waters
I’ve noticed this since  about jan or so or maybe that’s just when i noticed it 
the most but….

sometimes my audio will completely drop or it will try to say something with 
voiceover and the first part of the word will come out and it will not say the 
entire word. So i switch windows then go back or do something to essentially 
make voiceover keep talking and trying to talk till the audio recovers.

This didn’t and fortunately doesn’t crash the machine, but it’s starting to be 
really annoying.:P Does anyone have ideas here?


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Re: Possible bug with certain albums

2015-07-19 Thread deedra waters
I’m  not much help here but i can confirm this what album though i’m not sure 
it happened in one of my playlists and i was too tired to figure it out at the 
time.


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> On Jul 19, 2015, at 9:55 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
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> Hi all
> We have discovered a possible bug when trying to play certain albums. In one 
> particular album, the track list was there but they all say "dimmed", meaning 
> it is not possible to play that track. However, if we double tap shuffle the 
> album will play, in a somewhat random order of course. If you have it, see if 
> you can duplicate this with "90 Hits Of The 90s". Any other albums with 
> similar behaviour please share. We're not sure how to report this to Apple.
> Thank you, any responses greatly appreciated.
> 
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Re: Apple Music

2015-07-20 Thread deedra waters
I can’t help accept to agree with you about apple music compared to the others
 you can’t add artists to anything as far as i can tell it’s got to be added 
album by album

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> On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> One good thing about Apple Music compare to the competition is that it plays 
> more albums from each artist. For example, Boz Scaggs song - Thanks To You 
> from the album - The Essential Boz Scaggs. A beautiful song. Can not play 
> this song in Deezer. Neither Tidal. There are more artists like Metallica. 
> This is a hugh advantage. Probably because of the drm in Apple Music.
> 
> Apple Music is more difficult to use than the competition. Go figure. Its 
> faster with Deezer to add artists in library for example.
> 
> Is there a favorite button hidden somewhere in iTunes and IOS music, that 
> adds artists in library after hitting the artist name after serch result for 
> the first time? So many commands before adding artist it looks like. Maybe 
> this will be fixed later. I am sure i saw some options settings somewhere in 
> iTunes Apple Music on mac, but it is gone, can’t find it again.
> 
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mac help with reminders

2015-07-23 Thread deedra waters
I need some help with this. i’m trying to set it to go off every 6h for a 
reminder for my meds. Problem here is a i can’t find any option like that and b 
the reminder sound isn’t loud enough  does anyone have any ideas here?


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Re: mac help with reminders

2015-07-24 Thread deedra waters
What clock app? this isn’t a phone I have no idea how this would work on the 
mac but i have no clock app so there for no alarms. ideas?


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> On Jul 23, 2015, at 2:31 PM, george b  wrote:
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> Go into the clock app and alarms and then make a alarm for each 6 hours and 
> tell each to repeate daily
> 
> -Original Message-
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> I need some help with this. i’m trying to set it to go off every 6h for a 
> reminder for my meds. Problem here is a i can’t find any option like that and 
> b the reminder sound isn’t loud enough  does anyone have any ideas here?
> 
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google hangouts

2015-08-20 Thread deedra waters
I didn’t see anything about this on applevis but it’s also been a very very 
long day. I need an app that supports hangouts well and handles the group chat 
stuff well.I am not using an iphone so please  if anyone knows of an app for 
hangouts that is an a mac app not an iphone app i’d appreciate any suggestions
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talking dashboard?

2015-09-22 Thread deedra waters
Does anyone know where i can download this from and have instructions on making 
it work? I’m either losing my mind or i just can’t find it if someone could 
give me this info i’d appreciate it. I’ve never used it with apple script so if 
someone could suggest things for me here i’d appreciate it.

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Re: talking dashboard?

2015-09-27 Thread deedra waters
hi,

Is there a script anywhere for talking dashboard that causes it to read all the 
info? Kind of like: if i want to hear all of the info then i could do something 
like assign it a keystroke and it just reads all of that info? I’d ideally like 
to be able to hear the time and date along with maybe the battery and some 
other things
> On Sep 27, 2015, at 1:03 PM, E.T.

Sorry if i’m a bit unclear, not enough coffee yet!


>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
>   Had forgotten about this when I upgraded to Yosemite a few months ago so 
> had to start over.
> 
>   When I edit scripts, I get an error regarding auto save and the options are 
> to revert or save anyway. How can I resolve this.
> 
>   Then when I execute one of these scripts, the speech is much slower. Where 
> do I need to go to change this? Thanks much.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/24/2015 8:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> The download link is below. It includes a Readme file that should explain 
>> everything, but let me know if you can't work something out.
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip
>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 02:09, deedra waters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know where i can download this from and have instructions on 
>>> making it work? I’m either losing my mind or i just can’t find it if 
>>> someone could give me this info i’d appreciate it. I’ve never used it with 
>>> apple script so if someone could suggest things for me here i’d appreciate 
>>> it.
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Re: talking dashboard?

2015-09-27 Thread deedra waters
Alex, the biggest thing for me currently is the wifi battery and time/date.  
Reminders is also an issue but it’s not  critical but it would be useful.

Reason why i need something like that is because The macbook and i move around 
a lot combine with needing to check that info  often. I  was mostly curious 
however if that info was combine somewhere. into 1. If you are willing, I would 
love to get this info because it is important to me.
> Ohowever i dont want to make work for you .

> n Sep 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> They aren't really designed that way, because the more information a script 
> has to grab, the longer it takes. If you assign each one you want to a 
> keystroke, it's easy to just hit the first keystroke, listen, then hit the 
> second. I suppose I could combine a couple or three, if you really want me to.
>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 17:24, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> Is there a script anywhere for talking dashboard that causes it to read all 
>> the info? Kind of like: if i want to hear all of the info then i could do 
>> something like assign it a keystroke and it just reads all of that info? I’d 
>> ideally like to be able to hear the time and date along with maybe the 
>> battery and some other things
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 1:03 PM, E.T.
>> 
>> Sorry if i’m a bit unclear, not enough coffee yet!
>> 
>> 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> Had forgotten about this when I upgraded to Yosemite a few months ago so 
>>> had to start over.
>>> 
>>> When I edit scripts, I get an error regarding auto save and the options are 
>>> to revert or save anyway. How can I resolve this.
>>> 
>>> Then when I execute one of these scripts, the speech is much slower. Where 
>>> do I need to go to change this? Thanks much.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
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>>>> The download link is below. It includes a Readme file that should explain 
>>>> everything, but let me know if you can't work something out.
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 02:09, deedra waters  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know where i can download this from and have instructions on 
>>>>> making it work? I’m either losing my mind or i just can’t find it if 
>>>>> someone could give me this info i’d appreciate it. I’ve never used it 
>>>>> with apple script so if someone could suggest things for me here i’d 
>>>>> appreciate it.
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Re: talking dashboard?

2015-09-27 Thread deedra waters
Honestly i dont trust myself to  work on scripts i’m too new to the mac and i 
can’t code my way out of a wet paper bag with a huge opening in it….


> On Sep 27, 2015, at 2:44 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   You want to combine scripts into one? The zipped file that Alex provided 
> has several scripts that do these things bot separately. Have you worked on 
> any of it yet?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/27/2015 2:24 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>> hi,
>> 
>> Is there a script anywhere for talking dashboard that causes it to read all 
>> the info? Kind of like: if i want to hear all of the info then i could do 
>> something like assign it a keystroke and it just reads all of that info? I’d 
>> ideally like to be able to hear the time and date along with maybe the 
>> battery and some other things
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 1:03 PM, E.T.
>> 
>> Sorry if i’m a bit unclear, not enough coffee yet!
>> 
>> 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>   Had forgotten about this when I upgraded to Yosemite a few months ago so 
>>> had to start over.
>>> 
>>>   When I edit scripts, I get an error regarding auto save and the options 
>>> are to revert or save anyway. How can I resolve this.
>>> 
>>>   Then when I execute one of these scripts, the speech is much slower. 
>>> Where do I need to go to change this? Thanks much.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/24/2015 8:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> The download link is below. It includes a Readme file that should explain 
>>>> everything, but let me know if you can't work something out.
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 02:09, deedra waters  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know where i can download this from and have instructions on 
>>>>> making it work? I’m either losing my mind or i just can’t find it if 
>>>>> someone could give me this info i’d appreciate it. I’ve never used it 
>>>>> with apple script so if someone could suggest things for me here i’d 
>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>> 
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Re: talking dashboard?

2015-09-27 Thread deedra waters
so if i understand things right  I can just assign 
>  say option 1 2 3 4 to those scripts and just run through them, that would 
> work fine actually. though i still think a script like i suggested would be 
> nice, however this will work for me. I’ll make sure to back up the scripts 
> before i go playing with script editing though I’m still paranoid about 
> messing things up.

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Just an idea. Assign numbers to the scripts you want to use the most then 
> hold the option key and press each number one at t time to hear the info. 
> Would that work for you?
> 
>   I have only edited the date and time script so far. Its only necessary to 
> edit the line that starts with set template. I played with this until I got 
> what I wanted. Just be mindful of the keywords used and the syntax. I broke 
> the script once or twice but no damage resulted.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/27/2015 3:14 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>> Honestly i dont trust myself to  work on scripts i’m too new to the mac and 
>> i can’t code my way out of a wet paper bag with a huge opening in it….
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 2:44 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   You want to combine scripts into one? The zipped file that Alex provided 
>>> has several scripts that do these things bot separately. Have you worked on 
>>> any of it yet?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/27/2015 2:24 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a script anywhere for talking dashboard that causes it to read 
>>>> all the info? Kind of like: if i want to hear all of the info then i could 
>>>> do something like assign it a keystroke and it just reads all of that 
>>>> info? I’d ideally like to be able to hear the time and date along with 
>>>> maybe the battery and some other things
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 1:03 PM, E.T.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry if i’m a bit unclear, not enough coffee yet!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>   Had forgotten about this when I upgraded to Yosemite a few months ago 
>>>>> so had to start over.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   When I edit scripts, I get an error regarding auto save and the options 
>>>>> are to revert or save anyway. How can I resolve this.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Then when I execute one of these scripts, the speech is much slower. 
>>>>> Where do I need to go to change this? Thanks much.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/24/2015 8:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>> The download link is below. It includes a Readme file that should 
>>>>>> explain everything, but let me know if you can't work something out.
>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip
>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 02:09, deedra waters  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does anyone know where i can download this from and have instructions 
>>>>>>> on making it work? I’m either losing my mind or i just can’t find it if 
>>>>>>> someone could give me this info i’d appreciate it. I’ve never used it 
>>>>>>> with apple script so if someone could suggest things for me here i’d 
>>>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>>>> 
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other mac accessibility mailing list?

2015-09-27 Thread deedra waters
Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list has degenerated 
into an ios mailing list andand i would like one that provides mac support only.

BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve deleted some 
1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios related so if anyone 
knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml for macs not ios.


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talking dashboard: the say ram script

2015-09-27 Thread deedra waters
This script seems to not work i gave it a key in the keyboard commander but it 
says nothing when i  use that keystroke any thoughts?


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spotify accessibility and some questions.

2015-09-28 Thread deedra waters
so i saw on applevis when i went looking for spotify advice/answers that a 
developer of some sort had given a very very very brief summary of how to get 
spotify working with accessibility. i’m going to write up here what i did to 
get it to work right for me and some of what i noticed. I’m hoping someone more 
talented then me can help me figure out some answers to things i can’t figure 
out. note that some of my problems here are lack of the more finer points of 
voiceover combine with the evilness of not being able to figure out all of the 
keystrokes the spotify app has.

The article on applevis has a little script that they say will make spotify 
launch. I would and hope that there is a way to set this to launch with 
accessibility on startup. Maybe someone knows how to get this to happen? also 
maybe someone knows of keystrokes with this app i’d appreciate the info. below 
is my  little 1-liner since i’m largely a command line user, i kind of….well 
it’s probably ugly but it works…

—begin script——

#!/bin/bash
/Applications/Spotify.app//Contents/MacOS/Spotify —args 
—force-renderer-accessibility  > /dev/null2&1

—end—code—

The above script causes spotify to start with the accessibility stuff but it’s 
very very ugly. However with some keyboard commands it could be much easier to 
handle. I know that the author of the article on applevis gave some basic 
keystrokes to handle search stuff but here’s what i’d like to see. for one i’d 
like to see the roter (vo+u) work with this I dont know what it would take to 
make this happen or even who i’d need to contact to make it work. It does 
however seem that with the latest spotify release things are working a bit 
smoother. for 2 i’d like a way to jump from frame to frame so that i could see 
what is in what frame actually thinking on this that seems to be the biggest 
problem for me. 

I would be very very happy if someone knows a way to add things to playlists i 
can’t figure this one out. I also dont know how to add things to the queue play 
the queue or get spotify to add certain things so that  i can have stuff that’s 
stored locally such as the local files section of the monster of an html 
document.:)

If anyone can help with these things i’d be greatful. It’s a rough thing for 
someone to get used to, but it’s liveable and with some keystrokes and info it 
would go easier.


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Re: other mac accessibility mailing list?

2015-09-28 Thread deedra waters
If there is no response to this question/there is no alternative ml  I will 
happily find a place to host one. Moderators this topic really does not sit 
well with me because of the fact that this appears to no longer be a mac list. 
after all this isn’t viphone.:P


> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is the home of 
> the blind Mac user community, so that it has degenerated into a list with so 
> many topics regarding iOS is strange to me, especially since we have 
> moderators. The description doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and if both 
> are allowed now the description should probably be changed. The name is 
> rather misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is OK here.
> 
> Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is Macvisionaries 
> after all.
> 
> Nicolai
> 
> On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote:
>> Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list has 
>> degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one that provides 
>> mac support only.
>> 
>> BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve deleted some 
>> 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios related so if anyone 
>> knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml for macs not ios.
>> 
>> 
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Re: other mac accessibility mailing list?

2015-09-28 Thread deedra waters
wow , well that makes this list even harder to try and track since it’s already 
overly high traffic. well if there’s no alternative I’ll still see about 
hosting something mac specific or finding a place to host one. i just dont have 
the time or the patience to wade through  all of the iphone topics just for the 
mac ones. perhapse people should change the name of this list while they’re at 
it. I know i’m being on the harsh side and i’m sorry but  this does make this 
list even harder to follow.


> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:02 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> A few weeks back, people were asking about posting anything related to Apple 
> accessibility since so many products are so linked nowadays. The reasoning 
> was that--with iTunes syncing, Handoff, keyboard commands on iOS, iCloud 
> Drive documents, and so on--all Apple products are so linked that it was too 
> restrictive to refuse messages about iOS/Apple TV/watchOS. The mods agreed, 
> and thus the list's topics expanded. I'm not saying this is good or bad, just 
> telling you why it happened.
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 07:56, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> If there is no response to this question/there is no alternative ml  I will 
>> happily find a place to host one. Moderators this topic really does not sit 
>> well with me because of the fact that this appears to no longer be a mac 
>> list. after all this isn’t viphone.:P
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is the home 
>>> of the blind Mac user community, so that it has degenerated into a list 
>>> with so many topics regarding iOS is strange to me, especially since we 
>>> have moderators. The description doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and 
>>> if both are allowed now the description should probably be changed. The 
>>> name is rather misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is 
>>> OK here.
>>> 
>>> Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is 
>>> Macvisionaries after all.
>>> 
>>> Nicolai
>>> 
>>> On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list has 
>>>> degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one that provides 
>>>> mac support only.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve deleted 
>>>> some 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios related so if 
>>>> anyone knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml for macs not ios.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: talking dashboard: the say ram script

2015-09-28 Thread deedra waters
is there another way to see this info then? i could go the top route but  unix 
and top and memory flat out confuse me.
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:59 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> That one has been broken since Yosemite. I meant to fix it, but other 
> projects kept coming up. Plus, from what I've read, ram is handled so 
> differently in Yosemite and onward that monitoring it isn't as important as 
> it used to be.
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 02:57, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> This script seems to not work i gave it a key in the keyboard commander but 
>> it says nothing when i  use that keystroke any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: other mac accessibility mailing list?

2015-09-28 Thread deedra waters
i’m not going to debate staying current with you accept to say that i have  
life on top of a mailing list with this kind of traffic you’re crazy but 
seriously i wish there was a better way of relaying a message like that on a ml 
with this much traffic. Maybe put something in the footer of the message or get 
it to mail out a mail that doesn’t get cought by mailing programs so they dont 
see the announcement and then have so much mail from said list that they 
litterally dont notice the important things till they complain about  the huge 
spike in ios traffic or something similar.


> On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:40 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Just recently, within the last few weeks, this question was answered by the 
> moderator Mark Taylor. This list is now and pretty much always has been and 
> "all things Apple" list. That includes the watch iOS operating system OS X 
> etc. it makes a good deal of sense as the entire Apple line of products are 
> all integrated and work seamlessly with each other. That is their intent, and 
> so this list takes questions regarding all things Apple. There was a list 
> devoted solely to the Mac OSx operating system, but that has gone the way of 
> the dinosaur. That's what happens when you don't stay current.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is the home 
>> of the blind Mac user community, so that it has degenerated into a list with 
>> so many topics regarding iOS is strange to me, especially since we have 
>> moderators. The description doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and if 
>> both are allowed now the description should probably be changed. The name is 
>> rather misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is OK here.
>> 
>> Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is Macvisionaries 
>> after all.
>> 
>> Nicolai
>> 
>>> On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote:
>>> Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list has 
>>> degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one that provides 
>>> mac support only.
>>> 
>>> BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve deleted 
>>> some 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios related so if 
>>> anyone knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml for macs not ios.
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the mac osx terminal and tinyfugue

2011-07-14 Thread Deedra Waters
My husband and i are looking at the possibilities of getting a mac
mainly do to it's accessibility.

I'm curious to know how well the shell/terminal works with voiceover.
I'd heard that at one time it did not work well. 

I'm also curious to find out if anyone has used tinyfugue with a mac. I
already use this under linux and ideally i'd like to use it under a mac
as well though i suspect i'll have to use the terminal to make it run.

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Re: Accessible mudding client for the mac

2011-07-14 Thread Deedra Waters
Tried tinyfugue?
Goldfinga Productions wrote
| it doesn't auto read, that's not a good thing for mudding...
| 
| On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:02 AM, anouk radix wrote:
| 
| > Hi, I thought atlantis works under rosetta and not cocoa? It might have 
been updated though...
| > Greetings, Anouk,
| > Op 11-7-2011 20:00, Ben J Bloomgren schreef:
| >> Missie and all,
| >> 
| >> I just googled mudding client for the mac, and Atlantis was the first 
thing that I saw. It works pretty well, but I know not what I do, at least 
quite yet. Just google around.
| >> 
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upgrading from leopard to snowleopard

2011-07-17 Thread Deedra Waters
Does anyoneknow how easy this would be? I've got an intel mac running
leopard butneed to upgrade the os. How dificult is this?

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Re: upgrading from leopard to snowleopard

2011-07-17 Thread Deedra Waters
I'm not sure on this since i've not even turned the thing on yet, but
does anyone know if the mac store works with leophard? If so would i be
better waiting till lion is released then doing the upgrade?
Kaare Dehard wrote
| Hi, I didn't have any difficulty. Of course if you are using time machine, 
don't forget to back up first...
| 
| When I did the leopard to snowy upgrade, I first backed up system with time 
machine, just in case...
| Then inserted the dvd and restarted... when I restarted, holding down the (c) 
key will boot from dvd.
| 
| It does take quite a bit more time to boot up with dvd, so patients is the 
key here. I then pressed command-f5 expressed more patients while voiceover 
loaded up, then after it came on it is just a matter of working through the 
prompts.
| 
| If this is your first time, feel free to take your time, and all should go 
well.
| On 2011-07-17, at 9:44 AM, Deedra Waters wrote:
| 
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Re: upgrading from leopard to snowleopard

2011-07-17 Thread Deedra Waters
By the way, what does holding down the C key do on restart?
Kaare Dehard wrote
| Hi, I didn't have any difficulty. Of course if you are using time machine, 
don't forget to back up first...
| 
| When I did the leopard to snowy upgrade, I first backed up system with time 
machine, just in case...
| Then inserted the dvd and restarted... when I restarted, holding down the (c) 
key will boot from dvd.
| 
| It does take quite a bit more time to boot up with dvd, so patients is the 
key here. I then pressed command-f5 expressed more patients while voiceover 
loaded up, then after it came on it is just a matter of working through the 
prompts.
| 
| If this is your first time, feel free to take your time, and all should go 
well.
| On 2011-07-17, at 9:44 AM, Deedra Waters wrote:
| 
| > Does anyoneknow how easy this would be? I've got an intel mac running
| > leopard butneed to upgrade the os. How dificult is this?
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very very new mac user

2014-11-04 Thread Deedra Waters
For the majority of my life i've been a linux user. I've wanted a mac
for quite a while now and i'm going to get a macbook air soon. I've got
a couple of questions though:

There are certain things that i want to do in particular. 
1. does i-chat work with irc or is it a mac specific thing? I
particularly need an irc client because of some of the things i need to
do.

I'm also curious as to how android phones and macs get along. Only thing
i need to do is be able to dump content onto the tablet and copy content
from the tablet.

I'm also looking for any tips or advice someone might have to offer to
someone completely new to macs. I've got iphone experience but that died
around ios 6 and i've not really followed any of that since..

Is there a website out there that offers suggestions for programs that
are and aren't accessible on macs? That would probably answer the rest
of my questions.:)

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Re: very very new mac user

2014-11-05 Thread Deedra Waters
Michael Malver  writes:
How well does the terminal work with voiceover? My understanding as of 3
years ago is that accessibility from the terminal is kind of a pita
meaning pain in the behind heh.


> I don't use android devices, but my understanding is that when you
> plug them into a USB port, they look like hard drives. If that's the
> case, your Mac will see it like a drive, and it will be very easy for
> you to copy data to and from the unit.
> Also, don't forget that underneath it's glittery surface, the Mac has
> UNIX. You can always go to a shell, and do things that way, if you
> feel you would be faster.
>
>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Deedra Waters  wrote:
>> 
>> For the majority of my life i've been a linux user. I've wanted a mac
>> for quite a while now and i'm going to get a macbook air soon. I've got
>> a couple of questions though:
>> 
>> There are certain things that i want to do in particular. 
>> 1. does i-chat work with irc or is it a mac specific thing? I
>> particularly need an irc client because of some of the things i need to
>> do.
>> 
>> I'm also curious as to how android phones and macs get along. Only thing
>> i need to do is be able to dump content onto the tablet and copy content
>> from the tablet.
>> 
>> I'm also looking for any tips or advice someone might have to offer to
>> someone completely new to macs. I've got iphone experience but that died
>> around ios 6 and i've not really followed any of that since..
>> 
>> Is there a website out there that offers suggestions for programs that
>> are and aren't accessible on macs? That would probably answer the rest
>> of my questions.:)
>> 
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>> 
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Re: very very new mac user

2014-11-05 Thread Deedra Waters
Georgina Joyce  writes:
Yes definitly a name from the past.:)

I've heard though, that yasr works well with the terminal anyone tried
using that with the terminal?


> Hello Deedra,
>
> Well, there’s a name from the past. Welcome to the world of the Mac.
>
> You should feel quite at home with a Mac. Devices will mounted as on a
> Linux system. Although, this will be on /Volumes. The terminal will
> feel very familiar to you. Although, VoiceOver is not as good as
> speakup in the terminal. There are 2 package management systems that
> you can add to install packages within the terminal. One is called
> home brew, or something like that and the other is Mac Ports. Many of
> the familiar programs used on Linux appear to be available in Mac
> Ports.
>
> I’m guessing that an IRC might be a bit clunky on the terminal with VO
> but I’m only guessing.
>
> I have just installed the latest OS X Yosemite here and not
> reinstalled Mac Ports, so not in a position to test for you.
>
> Here’s the Mac Ports page:
>
> https://www.macports.org
>
> Gena
>
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
>
>> On 5 Nov 2014, at 05:34, Deedra Waters  wrote:
>> 
>> For the majority of my life i've been a linux user. I've wanted a mac
>> for quite a while now and i'm going to get a macbook air soon. I've got
>> a couple of questions though:
>> 
>> There are certain things that i want to do in particular. 
>> 1. does i-chat work with irc or is it a mac specific thing? I
>> particularly need an irc client because of some of the things i need to
>> do.
>> 
>> I'm also curious as to how android phones and macs get along. Only thing
>> i need to do is be able to dump content onto the tablet and copy content
>> from the tablet.
>> 
>> I'm also looking for any tips or advice someone might have to offer to
>> someone completely new to macs. I've got iphone experience but that died
>> around ios 6 and i've not really followed any of that since..
>> 
>> Is there a website out there that offers suggestions for programs that
>> are and aren't accessible on macs? That would probably answer the rest
>> of my questions.:)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: very very new mac user

2014-11-05 Thread Deedra Waters
Thanks. I actually went and read the voiceover manual that was on the
apple website not sure how current that is, but it did provide some
initial help so i could look at my friend's mac and make the decision
from there.

Phil Halton  writes:

> As far as getting acquainted with the workings of VoiceOver on the
> Mac, three things will be of invaluable help.
> 1) Keyboard help (Command Option + K)
> entering keyboard help will let you press any key combo and hear what
> its function is - a great memory aid for learning the VO
> keystrokes. Exit keyboard help by pressing escape.
>
> 2) the quick start tutorial for VO, selected from within the VO help
> system (Command Option + H. If you’re completely unfamiliar with VO on
> the Mac, it’s a good jumping off point that will get your feet wet.
>
> 3) the Getting started guide - a complete user manual for VoiceOver.
> Also accessed from within the VO help system command option + H, It
> covers every aspect of VoiceOver and it will serve you well to spend
> the time to read it thoroughly. and refer to it as often as needed in
> the early days.
>  
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Deedra Waters  wrote:
>
>> For the majority of my life i've been a linux user. I've wanted a mac
>> for quite a while now and i'm going to get a macbook air soon. I've got
>> a couple of questions though:
>> 
>> There are certain things that i want to do in particular. 
>> 1. does i-chat work with irc or is it a mac specific thing? I
>> particularly need an irc client because of some of the things i need to
>> do.
>> 
>> I'm also curious as to how android phones and macs get along. Only thing
>> i need to do is be able to dump content onto the tablet and copy content
>> from the tablet.
>> 
>> I'm also looking for any tips or advice someone might have to offer to
>> someone completely new to macs. I've got iphone experience but that died
>> around ios 6 and i've not really followed any of that since..
>> 
>> Is there a website out there that offers suggestions for programs that
>> are and aren't accessible on macs? That would probably answer the rest
>> of my questions.:)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: very very new mac user

2014-11-05 Thread Deedra Waters
Janina, that sounds like a plus there. how much of the terminal actually
works with voiceover and how well? I'd still be using a lot of terminal
apps accept for certain things that i want the gui for. so i'd like a
good idea as to what to expect from the terminal  and ways to make it
work the best.


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Re: very very new mac user

2014-11-06 Thread Deedra Waters
Chris, 

thank you very much, my concern was the scrolling issue but also
announcing what it speak as things go line by line down the screen.


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latest osx upgrade

2014-11-08 Thread Deedra Waters
I saw some that had problems with the latest osx upgrade What i want
to know is how much trouble am i going to have upgrading as a new mac
user? My macbook air didn't come with the latest version so i
apparrently have to upgrade and i dont want to break things!!! Any
suggestions would be appreciated
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a few questions

2014-11-10 Thread deedra waters
I’ve been looking on applevis for an answer to this and i’m probably missing 
it. Are there accessible chat cliejnts to handle things like jabber and 
googletalk?

Also does anyone know of an installer for mac ports for OS X 10.10? I’m only 
seeing installers for the older versions.

I’ve not had a whole lot of luck getting the terminal to play nice. yet are 
there any options i need to set up  to make it act better?

Thanks for all the help i’m loving this macbook air.

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mac terminal

2014-11-20 Thread deedra waters
I need as much advice here as possible. I do a lot of things in the terminal 
and what i’m discovering is that yeast is almost worse then voiceover in the 
err y a s r…. so since voiceover seems to work better for me with the terminal 
what i want to know is this. is there a way to stop voiceover from  dropping 
large chunks of text in the terminal  or in some cases, not even speaking them 
at all. If i could get this part fixed it would be greatly appreciated. what i 
mean is this for those who don’t understand. voiceover seems to try to keep up 
with the moving text on the terminal screen that’s appreciated, however it’s 
annoying for certain things and i need to get it to speak everything that comes 
in and not skip text.


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vmware fusion

2014-11-23 Thread deedra waters
I assumed that this could be bought from the app store but i was wrong. I’m 
curious as to where i can actually buy/get this particular piece of software. 
Thanks!

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vmware fusion an oops

2014-11-23 Thread deedra waters
I should have asked this question in my previous email. I’m assuming that 
vmware fusion is what i would want to run with any tipe of os meaning  i could 
install a vm with linux or windows? i noticed their page said something about 
windows but did not mention linux at all.


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terminal info

2014-11-23 Thread deedra waters
Here are some thoughts along with about 2.5 weeks of using the mac and terminal.

I found things to work best if i set my terminal to t100 turn curser tracking 
on and i seem to have the most success this way. I’m trying to mud from the 
terminal as well, and while it’s still not perfect it does “semi-work” and 
doesn’t make me want to toss the macbook in the nearest river.:) It would be 
nice to try and make it a bit better but, i can live with the way it is now 
though those urges to toss the thing in the river still resurface now and then:)


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some more questions

2014-12-01 Thread deedra waters
I have a really major question of sorts, well 2. How do i uninstall apps from 
the mac store that i do not want? I’m not seeing uninstall buttons from it 
anywhere that i can find. 

Also i’ve got apps that have downloaded to my downloads folder. I’m assuming i 
need to actually move them to the applications folder, but how do i accomplish 
this?

BTW I seem to be getting along nicely with my mac. I’ve found a couple insanely 
useful apps some of which i found on applevis
.:)


I’ve found macjournal useful the most though. I’ve got a few things I need to 
track journal wise and i like the fact that i can just create multiple journals 
as needed. The app was expensive but worth the price.

I also found an app called my medical. it’s fully accessible as far as i can 
tell. If someone wants to check it out and report it’s accessibility on apples 
they should do so. I don’t have an account to report it/fill out info on it and 
no time till after new years.

The hi lights of my medical is that i’m on over 15 different medications, i’m 
in the hospital at least once every couple months and i go by ambulance. Once 
i’m done entering all of the data i should just be able to hand my macbook to 
the proper people so they can pull the info out of the app. We’ll see just how 
useful it is in time.

My final question is this. I’m looking for good and free bible study apps so if 
anyone has ideas out there i’d appreciate it


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hermes

2014-12-01 Thread deedra waters
I’m wondering if anyone knows how to stop it’s notifications every time it 
starts a new song. Normally i wouldn’t care but when working it’s rather 
annoying.


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Re: some more questions

2014-12-01 Thread deedra waters
David,

Thanks for this. I suspected that that was how adding/removing apps worked but 
when i was googling, i saw some post that said something like you needed to get 
an uninstall link or something

Either way thanks!


> On Dec 1, 2014, at 11:03 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> 1. To uninstall an app you generally just have to delete it from our 
> application folder. There are utilities like clean my Mac or App Delete which 
> offer a more system wide delete service if you require but in general 
> deleting most apps will be fine.
> 2. Similarly to install a downloaded app simply copy the app file into the 
> application folder. Often these apps will appear in a dmg file which you need 
> to open to access the app file.
> 
> The exception to the above is those  app which tend to be ported across from 
> Windows which have names like Flash install.app. Any app name with install in 
> its name will need to be run like a Windows style program. These tend also to 
> be best deleted with a utility like app delete or clean my mac.
> 
> David Griffith
>> On 2 Dec 2014, at 06:25, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a really major question of sorts, well 2. How do i uninstall apps 
>> from the mac store that i do not want? I’m not seeing uninstall buttons from 
>> it anywhere that i can find. 
>> 
>> Also i’ve got apps that have downloaded to my downloads folder. I’m assuming 
>> i need to actually move them to the applications folder, but how do i 
>> accomplish this?
>> 
>> BTW I seem to be getting along nicely with my mac. I’ve found a couple 
>> insanely useful apps some of which i found on applevis
>> .:)
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve found macjournal useful the most though. I’ve got a few things I need 
>> to track journal wise and i like the fact that i can just create multiple 
>> journals as needed. The app was expensive but worth the price.
>> 
>> I also found an app called my medical. it’s fully accessible as far as i can 
>> tell. If someone wants to check it out and report it’s accessibility on 
>> apples they should do so. I don’t have an account to report it/fill out info 
>> on it and no time till after new years.
>> 
>> The hi lights of my medical is that i’m on over 15 different medications, 
>> i’m in the hospital at least once every couple months and i go by ambulance. 
>> Once i’m done entering all of the data i should just be able to hand my 
>> macbook to the proper people so they can pull the info out of the app. We’ll 
>> see just how useful it is in time.
>> 
>> My final question is this. I’m looking for good and free bible study apps so 
>> if anyone has ideas out there i’d appreciate it
>> 
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deleting wireless networks

2014-12-02 Thread deedra waters
I was out of town to visit some friends and by accident i clicked on a 
neighbor’s wireless network. Now when i have no wifi it claims this network and 
says it has 4 bars when in reality it’s connected to nothing. So how do i get 
rid of this wireless network plus any potential networks i may accidentally do 
that to?


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permanently turning off the macbook air's trackpad

2014-12-02 Thread deedra waters
I have a trackpad that’s wireless/portable that i bought with my mac. What I’m 
wondering is how can i turn off the air’s trackpad permanently? When my 
portable trackpad is connected the air uses that trackpad and it’s built in one 
is off like i like. but when the portable trackpad is off, the air reverts to 
using it’s trackpad.

I need this thing permanently off because when i type on it’s keyboard i 
constantly hit the trackpad. You don’t even want to see the email that had 
random letters and words dumped all over it:P At least my friend found it 
amusing.


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terminal suggestions

2014-12-02 Thread deedra waters
Well, learning to play muds in the mac terminal is a challenge. However, i 
think i can safely do it now.:) If you change the terminal type to t100 in the 
terminal it will speak a bit better. Speech interrupts are still an issue but 
not so much with vt100

for those who don’t know how to change the terminal type ‘export TERM=“vt100” 
Not sure how it gets added to the shell’s   

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Re: deleting wireless networks

2014-12-02 Thread deedra waters
Mark, thanks. I kept trying to fix it through the wireless thing in hmm what 
would be called the system tray on windows……Sorry can’t 
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 12:30 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Deedra,  
> 
> To see your list of Preferred (previously connected to) or what is sometimes 
> referred to as "known networks", do the following.  
> 
> 1.
> From the Apple Menu, select System Preferences.
> 
> 2.
> Select Networks.
> 
> 3.
> Select the Advanced Button located near the bottom of the dialog box.  From 
> here you will see a table containing a list of your Preferred networks.  You 
> may remove any network from this table.  
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of deedra waters
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: deleting wireless networks
> 
> I was out of town to visit some friends and by accident i clicked on a 
> neighbor’s wireless network. Now when i have no wifi it claims this network 
> and says it has 4 bars when in reality it’s connected to nothing. So how do i 
> get rid of this wireless network plus any potential networks i may 
> accidentally do that to?
> 
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kind of a stupid question but...

2014-12-02 Thread deedra waters
Well with using hermes i went ahead and signed up for pandora one again since 
it’s easier then carrying around content on the macbook.

My question is this. WTF am i still getting commercials? did they change 
pandora one so you get adds now?

I thought i’d ask here since i’ve found the pandora folks  aren’t always 
responsive to things. The other thing i noticed is why am i streaming at a 
lower bitrate with hermes? I noticed the quality to be poor.

BTW, How do you install flash on safari? I can’t even access the pandora site 
to check my account, go figure.

Thanks!


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spotify

2014-12-08 Thread deedra waters
I’ve been looking at trying to use this since i got my mac. What i’m learning 
so far is the spotify app from the app store doesn’t seem to be accessible 
period. Does anyone have suggestions as to a useable spotify client?


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terminal, one last question...

2014-12-09 Thread deedra waters
I’m trying to run 2 terminal windows at the same time. The reason I want to do 
this is because i run a screen inside a screen now and then and this seems to 
be causing some conflicts i can’t resolve. Does anyone know if there’s a way to 
run 2 terminal windows instead of 1?


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oops

2014-12-09 Thread deedra waters
Ok, i messed up and i’m unsure how to fix this… I was in the terminal playing 
with it’s settings and now when i hit a ctrl+c to switch between screens and it 
says “key?” this happens every time i hit ctrl+c regardless of what i’m in in 
the terminal. I already checked stay  and the ctrl+c listed there is supposed 
to be the interrupt key. i checked the keyboard preferences in  the keyboard 
section of the terminal preferences and there’s no ctrl+c there. What am i 
missing on how to track down this problem? it’s getting quite frustrating, lol.

 
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Re: terminal, one last question...

2014-12-09 Thread deedra waters
Thanks, I just found that option after the fact. Now if only to find the last 
problem fixed i hope.:)

Of course i’ll say last problem and i’ll break something lol!


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> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> Well sure. If I understand you correctly, just do a cmd-n and you'll have a 
> second window and you can cmd-accent between them. But if you are running 
> screen within trminal you should be able to access all the windows you set up 
> within screen and still do a cmd-n any time you want just a regular terminal 
> window. I run screen all the time in terminal all the time to use brltty. My 
> only problem is that terminal then crashes somewhat frequently. It seems to 
> me to be voice-over related because terminal doesn't crash if I run brltty 
> and turn voiceover off.
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 11:34 AM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m trying to run 2 terminal windows at the same time. The reason I want to 
>> do this is because i run a screen inside a screen now and then and this 
>> seems to be causing some conflicts i can’t resolve. Does anyone know if 
>> there’s a way to run 2 terminal windows instead of 1?
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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itunes help

2014-12-10 Thread deedra waters
let’s hope i can type this with out hitting the trackpad by accident since you 
can’t turn it off…thanks apple…

anyway i want to play simple folders on iTunes essentially they have mp3 files 
in them so i put the folder in my home directory, and tried to add it to the 
library. the end result was that i could never find the folders using the 
iTunes add to library feature and no way to just “open folder” like i want. 
Please, i need all the iTunes help i can get.

BTW are there accessible and much simpler players to use? I desperately want 
something simpler.


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Re: itunes help

2014-12-10 Thread deedra waters
I’ll try this, thanks tim.

I’ve come to the conclusion that i’d much rather learn the beast that is 
iTunes. why? because  if iTunes radio actually costs something to get it’s full 
use, i’d rather pay for that then pandora:P

this way tv shows, “some” music and other things including iTunes radio are all 
right there….

BTW does anyone know if there’s a plugin for ogg files for iTunes?


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> On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How about, instead of copying the folder into your Home directory, you copy 
> it into the "Automatically Add to iTunes” folder.  Items placed in this 
> folder will be instantly moved into the appropriate locations within iTunes.  
> To locate this folder, go into your Home directory, Music, iTunes,  and 
> iTunes Media.  The “Automatically Add to iTunes” is right there.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:19, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> let’s hope i can type this with out hitting the trackpad by accident since 
>> you can’t turn it off…thanks apple…
>> 
>> anyway i want to play simple folders on iTunes essentially they have mp3 
>> files in them so i put the folder in my home directory, and tried to add it 
>> to the library. the end result was that i could never find the folders using 
>> the iTunes add to library feature and no way to just “open folder” like i 
>> want. Please, i need all the iTunes help i can get.
>> 
>> BTW are there accessible and much simpler players to use? I desperately want 
>> something simpler.
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of the 
macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to sit in the er 
for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  and was actually not 
bored there for once.

I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. This 
time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at least!

Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. I was 
really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought to play for 
the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our lives from the 
iTunes store *snicker*

>From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for example tail 
>-n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac and linux with the mac 
>you have to type something like tail -50 to get what  you want. Little things 
>like that ended up requiring the linux/unix skills of my fiancé to get certain 
>of my scripts and some other python tools to work properly.

I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple mac type 
things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy vmware fusion or 
unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up and running for those 
tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal

The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for a way 
to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that just make 
things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as sick as i am, that app 
is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to get  as much of my medical 
records as possible put into the app so that way if worse comes to worse all i 
have to do is turn voiceover off, they should be able to access and read the 
info then give the thing back to me. In theory at least it sounds like a great 
idea. I’m probably going to have to find a way of getting the data to export to 
a readable format such as pdf for them.

Mac journal i also found useful for several things.

Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think that that 
will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes podcasts.:)


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Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
I thought about something like that or qemu would be useful, but the problem is 
i need to use speak or yeast inside the vm. The terminal has too many speech 
interupts for me to try and use tintin effectively rather then getting my char 
on one of the muds i play killed repeatedly because i can’t keep up with the 
constant speech interupts.

Kind of sad that i want a vm just to play a couple muds but there you go heh.

I tried to get yeast running from the command line already for some reason 
either it, the emacspeak server for mac or the tts are eating large chunks of 
text so that yeast is much worse then voiceover about missing things. I could 
try the mud client for mac, mudder i think it’s called, but i need something 
that can accept python or lua scripting.

Sorry that’s probably more then you wanted to know, but didn’t have a quicker 
way of explaining it. Essentially i need to interact with the vm itself the 
same way others would use a windows vm on a mac.


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> On Dec 11, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Deedra,
> 
> Remember virtual box that some speakup users talked about?
> 
> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
>> On 11 Dec 2014, at 19:43, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of the 
>> macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to sit in the 
>> er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  and was actually 
>> not bored there for once.
>> 
>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
>> hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. This 
>> time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at least!
>> 
>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. I was 
>> really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought to play for 
>> the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our lives from the 
>> iTunes store *snicker*
>> 
>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for example 
>> tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac and linux with 
>> the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get what  you want. 
>> Little things like that ended up requiring the linux/unix skills of my 
>> fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some other python tools to work 
>> properly.
>> 
>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple mac 
>> type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy vmware 
>> fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up and running 
>> for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>> 
>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for a 
>> way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that just 
>> make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as sick as i am, 
>> that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to get  as much of my 
>> medical records as possible put into the app so that way if worse comes to 
>> worse all i have to do is turn voiceover off, they should be able to access 
>> and read the info then give the thing back to me. In theory at least it 
>> sounds like a great idea. I’m probably going to have to find a way of 
>> getting the data to export to a readable format such as pdf for them.
>> 
>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>> 
>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think that 
>> that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes podcasts.:)
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
Yeah, seems autocorrect still isn’t disabled in my mail client, that should be 
virtual box and  y a s r.


deedra waters
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> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:03 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
> 
> I thought about something like that or qemu would be useful, but the problem 
> is i need to use speak or yeast inside the vm. The terminal has too many 
> speech interupts for me to try and use tintin effectively rather then getting 
> my char on one of the muds i play killed repeatedly because i can’t keep up 
> with the constant speech interupts.
> 
> Kind of sad that i want a vm just to play a couple muds but there you go heh.
> 
> I tried to get yeast running from the command line already for some reason 
> either it, the emacspeak server for mac or the tts are eating large chunks of 
> text so that yeast is much worse then voiceover about missing things. I could 
> try the mud client for mac, mudder i think it’s called, but i need something 
> that can accept python or lua scripting.
> 
> Sorry that’s probably more then you wanted to know, but didn’t have a quicker 
> way of explaining it. Essentially i need to interact with the vm itself the 
> same way others would use a windows vm on a mac.
> 
> 
> deedra waters
> dee...@the-brannons.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Deedra,
>> 
>> Remember virtual box that some speakup users talked about?
>> 
>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>>> On 11 Dec 2014, at 19:43, deedra waters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of the 
>>> macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to sit in 
>>> the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  and was 
>>> actually not bored there for once.
>>> 
>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
>>> hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. 
>>> This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at least!
>>> 
>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. I 
>>> was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought to 
>>> play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our lives 
>>> from the iTunes store *snicker*
>>> 
>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for example 
>>> tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac and linux with 
>>> the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get what  you want. 
>>> Little things like that ended up requiring the linux/unix skills of my 
>>> fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some other python tools to work 
>>> properly.
>>> 
>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple mac 
>>> type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy vmware 
>>> fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up and running 
>>> for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>>> 
>>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for a 
>>> way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that just 
>>> make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as sick as i am, 
>>> that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to get  as much of my 
>>> medical records as possible put into the app so that way if worse comes to 
>>> worse all i have to do is turn voiceover off, they should be able to access 
>>> and read the info then give the thing back to me. In theory at least it 
>>> sounds like a great idea. I’m probably going to have to find a way of 
>>> getting the data to export to a readable format such as pdf for them.
>>> 
>>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>>> 
>>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think that 
>>> that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes podcasts.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> deedra waters
>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and not 
fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. I just 
don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 linux vm 
that’s useable.


deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, for 
> which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been able to find 
> time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do plan to eventually. 
> But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal isn't much fun though it can 
> be used for entering commands without too much trouble. With brltty, I just 
> turn voiceover off if using the terminal for any length of time because I've 
> had issues with terminal crashing and it doesn't seem to happen if voiceover 
> isn't on.
> 
> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up an 
> old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux needs.
> 
> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in terminal 
> also.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of the 
>> macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to sit in the 
>> er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  and was actually 
>> not bored there for once.
>> 
>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
>> hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. This 
>> time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at least!
>> 
>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. I was 
>> really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought to play for 
>> the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our lives from the 
>> iTunes store *snicker*
>> 
>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for example 
>> tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac and linux with 
>> the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get what  you want. 
>> Little things like that ended up requiring the linux/unix skills of my 
>> fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some other python tools to work 
>> properly.
>> 
>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple mac 
>> type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy vmware 
>> fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up and running 
>> for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>> 
>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for a 
>> way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that just 
>> make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as sick as i am, 
>> that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to get  as much of my 
>> medical records as possible put into the app so that way if worse comes to 
>> worse all i have to do is turn voiceover off, they should be able to access 
>> and read the info then give the thing back to me. In theory at least it 
>> sounds like a great idea. I’m probably going to have to find a way of 
>> getting the data to export to a readable format such as pdf for them.
>> 
>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>> 
>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think that 
>> that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes podcasts.:)
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. as 
well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does running the vm 
in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to talk?


deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same thing 
> as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very accessible, 
> but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable from terminal. In 
> other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up and running with your 
> unix of choice and then you could do what you want inside that virtual 
> machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not Linux. It's based on 
> BSD, which also is not Linux.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and not 
>> fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. I just 
>> don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 linux vm 
>> that’s useable.
>> 
>>  
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, for 
>>> which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been able to 
>>> find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do plan to 
>>> eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal isn't much fun 
>>> though it can be used for entering commands without too much trouble. With 
>>> brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the terminal for any length of 
>>> time because I've had issues with terminal crashing and it doesn't seem to 
>>> happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>> 
>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up an 
>>> old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux needs.
>>> 
>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in terminal 
>>> also.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of the 
>>>> macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to sit in 
>>>> the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  and was 
>>>> actually not bored there for once.
>>>> 
>>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
>>>> hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. 
>>>> This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at least!
>>>> 
>>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. I 
>>>> was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought to 
>>>> play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our lives 
>>>> from the iTunes store *snicker*
>>>> 
>>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for example 
>>>> tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac and linux 
>>>> with the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get what  you 
>>>> want. Little things like that ended up requiring the linux/unix skills of 
>>>> my fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some other python tools to work 
>>>> properly.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple mac 
>>>> type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy vmware 
>>>> fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up and 
>>>> running for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>>>> 
>>>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for a 
>>>> way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that just 
>>>> make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. Wit

Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
Yes i want to create the vm but i need to use it with speak the way some of you 
use windows vas for gaming or what ever. Basically I need linux for 1 task and 
that’s it, but it requires interacting with the vm not using ssh to log into 
it. If i understand things right, in order to use virtual box  I’d have to 
generate the vm and run it and could only use it with ssh. Am i wrong here? I 
was lead to believe i’d need vmware fusion to both set up and run the vm.


deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> Yes Ray. It works through voiceover and it's fine if all you need to do is 
> enter a command or two; you can hear what you are typing. But in my opinion 
> it's more of a pain if you want to know the output that is being presented 
> and need to review that output and continue to make entries based on that.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr > <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Terminal works through voiceover. You just going to terminal from the 
>> finder, and from there, you can use terminal in voiceover.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone,
>> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 4:08 PM, deedra waters > <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. 
>>> as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does running 
>>> the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to talk?
>>> 
>>>
>>> deedra waters
>>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable 
>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up 
>>>> and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you want 
>>>> inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not 
>>>> Linux. It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and 
>>>>> not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. I 
>>>>> just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 
>>>>> linux vm that’s useable.
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak >>>>> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, 
>>>>>> for which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been 
>>>>>> able to find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do 
>>>>>> plan to eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal 
>>>>>> isn't much fun though it can be used for entering commands without too 
>>>>>> much trouble. With brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the 
>>>>>> terminal for any length of time because I've had issues with terminal 
>>>>>> crashing and it doesn't seem to happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up 
>>>>>> an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux 
>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ha

Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
If i’m understanding you right, you can both setup and use the vm with virtual 
box and the command line. I’ll give it a try and see what happens. Any 
tutorials out there on how to set up and run the vm?


deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:32 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most folks who don't want to deal with the CLI use VMWare but you pay for 
> that convenience. I haven't used it with Linux but generally you just do 
> VBoxManage startvm vmname. The VirtualBox installer is the standard Mac one 
> so you won't have much trouble getting the app itself installed. As far as 
> what happens inside the virtual machine, that depends on what you install 
> there. The virtual machine software is just an emulation of a plain old intel 
> PC. So what you install there is only as accessible as a real box would be. 
> So if you like speak on linux on a hardware PC then you'll need to get it 
> that installed on linux on your virtual PC. That won't change any whether you 
> run virtualbox or vmware. Once you're in the guest OS the virtualization 
> system is not involved.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/11/14, 5:08 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. 
>> as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does running 
>> the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to talk?
>> 
>>  
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable from 
>>> terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up and 
>>> running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you want inside 
>>> that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not Linux. 
>>> It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and 
>>>> not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. I 
>>>> just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 
>>>> linux vm that’s useable.
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, for 
>>>>> which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been able to 
>>>>> find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do plan to 
>>>>> eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal isn't much 
>>>>> fun though it can be used for entering commands without too much trouble. 
>>>>> With brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the terminal for any 
>>>>> length of time because I've had issues with terminal crashing and it 
>>>>> doesn't seem to happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up 
>>>>> an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux 
>>>>> needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in 
>>>>> terminal also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of 
>>>>>> the macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to 
>>>>>&g

virtualbox and osx 10.10

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
Seems apple-gcc can’t build on  this version of OS X  So for now i guess for 
now i’m either going to have to wait till it is supported to install virtual 
box or hmm not sure yet. Any one know of another vm program  that’s not vmware 
that would work for installing a simple small linux vm?


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Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-12 Thread deedra waters
Yeah i figured that out after the fact can’t go the virtual box route because 
it requires apple-gcc which isn’t available on my version of OS X

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> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you Google "virtualbox command line" you'll find lots of stuff. This one 
> for installing Ubuntu seemed good:
> 
> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/06/how-to-use-virtualbox-in-terminal-commandline/
> 
> Once you have virtualbox installed you can always do a man VBoxManage to get 
> all the possible commands.
> 
> Here is a more recipe style setup:
> 
> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
> 
> Nice thing is this is all free so if you don't like it or it doesn't work for 
> you the way you want you're not out any cash.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/11/14, 8:18 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>> If i’m understanding you right, you can both setup and use the vm with 
>> virtual box and the command line. I’ll give it a try and see what happens. 
>> Any tutorials out there on how to set up and run the vm?
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:32 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Most folks who don't want to deal with the CLI use VMWare but you pay for 
>>> that convenience. I haven't used it with Linux but generally you just do 
>>> VBoxManage startvm vmname. The VirtualBox installer is the standard Mac one 
>>> so you won't have much trouble getting the app itself installed. As far as 
>>> what happens inside the virtual machine, that depends on what you install 
>>> there. The virtual machine software is just an emulation of a plain old 
>>> intel PC. So what you install there is only as accessible as a real box 
>>> would be. So if you like speak on linux on a hardware PC then you'll need 
>>> to get it that installed on linux on your virtual PC. That won't change any 
>>> whether you run virtualbox or vmware. Once you're in the guest OS the 
>>> virtualization system is not involved.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/14, 5:08 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. 
>>>> as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does 
>>>> running the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to 
>>>> talk?
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable 
>>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up 
>>>>> and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you want 
>>>>> inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not 
>>>>> Linux. It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and 
>>>>>> not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. 
>>>>>> I just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 
>>>>>> linux vm that’s useable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, 
>>>>>>> for which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been 
>>>>>>> able to find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do 
>>>>>>> plan to eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal 
>>>

Re: virtualbox and osx 10.10

2014-12-12 Thread deedra waters
I can set it up under emu i think but unsure going to try it now though since 
i’m running out of options fast lol… 


deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:30 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> From what I've read, Clang is slowly replacing GCC so Apple is just jumping 
> in with both feet (as is BSD). An interesting discussion of that is here:
> 
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49906/why-is-freebsd-deprecating-gcc-in-favor-of-clang-llvm
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/12/14, 2:28 AM, deedra waters wrote:
>> Seems apple-gcc can’t build on  this version of OS X  So for now i guess for 
>> now i’m either going to have to wait till it is supported to install virtual 
>> box or hmm not sure yet. Any one know of another vm program  that’s not 
>> vmware that would work for installing a simple small linux vm?
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: first impression experiences from a former linux user

2014-12-12 Thread deedra waters
Err, i didn’t even know there was a mac installer. I went under the assumption 
that it required macports since that’s what most linux type things need to be 
built 

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> On Dec 12, 2014, at 7:31 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ummm, why does it require apple-gcc? You just download the Mac installer and 
> you're good to go. Nothing to compile, brew, yum or whatever. I have it 
> running just fine on a generic OSX 10.10 box.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/12/14, 10:09 AM, deedra waters wrote:
>> Yeah i figured that out after the fact can’t go the virtual box route 
>> because it requires apple-gcc which isn’t available on my version of OS X
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you Google "virtualbox command line" you'll find lots of stuff. This one 
>>> for installing Ubuntu seemed good:
>>> 
>>> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/06/how-to-use-virtualbox-in-terminal-commandline/
>>> 
>>> Once you have virtualbox installed you can always do a man VBoxManage to 
>>> get all the possible commands.
>>> 
>>> Here is a more recipe style setup:
>>> 
>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
>>> 
>>> Nice thing is this is all free so if you don't like it or it doesn't work 
>>> for you the way you want you're not out any cash.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/14, 8:18 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> If i’m understanding you right, you can both setup and use the vm with 
>>>> virtual box and the command line. I’ll give it a try and see what happens. 
>>>> Any tutorials out there on how to set up and run the vm?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:32 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most folks who don't want to deal with the CLI use VMWare but you pay for 
>>>>> that convenience. I haven't used it with Linux but generally you just do 
>>>>> VBoxManage startvm vmname. The VirtualBox installer is the standard Mac 
>>>>> one so you won't have much trouble getting the app itself installed. As 
>>>>> far as what happens inside the virtual machine, that depends on what you 
>>>>> install there. The virtual machine software is just an emulation of a 
>>>>> plain old intel PC. So what you install there is only as accessible as a 
>>>>> real box would be. So if you like speak on linux on a hardware PC then 
>>>>> you'll need to get it that installed on linux on your virtual PC. That 
>>>>> won't change any whether you run virtualbox or vmware. Once you're in the 
>>>>> guest OS the virtualization system is not involved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/11/14, 5:08 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command 
>>>>>> line…. as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how 
>>>>>> does running the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command 
>>>>>> line to talk?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>>>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>>>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable 
>>>>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox 
>>>>>>> up and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you 
>>>>>>> want inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX 
>>>>>>> is not Linux. It's based on BSD, which also

a horrible frustrating evening in vmware land

2014-12-12 Thread deedra waters
Well, after realizing /remembering that vmware had a 30 day free trial, i 
decided to take it and just build a vm with that. I’ll call it the evening from 
hell, but on the other hand i learned a lot more about how complicated and 
annoying vmware fusion was but on the other hand i have my linux vm and a sane 
terminal again:P

Thanks to those who were helping me i greatly appreciate the help. I think 
before it’s all said and done i’m likely to end up with using the mac guy for 
those things that are easier to use there and probably running ssh into my 
macbook to do any command line things from there. It seems like the sanest 
solution there. I don’t look forward to paying for vmware fusion but on the 
other hand, once you get past it’s strange layout  it’s a better choice then 
probably any of the other solutions i was debating. There’s not really lag 
between the vm and the sound of speak coming through the speakers like i 
expected there to be. There’s a slight delay but i’ve seen worse with ssh so i 
can live with the slight delay.


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vmware fusion eating the caps lock key

2014-12-12 Thread deedra waters
I need to free up the caps lock key os that i can use the apple keyboard in the 
vm rather then juggling 2 keyboards…. Does anyone know why and how to free up 
the caps lock key so that vmware fusion will stop  interrupting the keypress


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Re: a horrible frustrating evening in vmware land

2014-12-13 Thread deedra waters
I installed arch because it was quickest and easier then anything else.

Yes it is easier to get used to once you get used to it. I think my problem 
last night was i was tired and annoyed to begin with. I still need to know why 
my capslock doesn’t work in the vm though

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> On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> I'm not running vmware right now but I have in the past. It really isn't that 
> annoying once you get used to it. All new things can be a pain, some more so 
> than others. What did you install for your linux vm?
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 1:07 AM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, after realizing /remembering that vmware had a 30 day free trial, i 
>> decided to take it and just build a vm with that. I’ll call it the evening 
>> from hell, but on the other hand i learned a lot more about how complicated 
>> and annoying vmware fusion was but on the other hand i have my linux vm and 
>> a sane terminal again:P
>> 
>> Thanks to those who were helping me i greatly appreciate the help. I think 
>> before it’s all said and done i’m likely to end up with using the mac guy 
>> for those things that are easier to use there and probably running ssh into 
>> my macbook to do any command line things from there. It seems like the 
>> sanest solution there. I don’t look forward to paying for vmware fusion but 
>> on the other hand, once you get past it’s strange layout  it’s a better 
>> choice then probably any of the other solutions i was debating. There’s not 
>> really lag between the vm and the sound of speak coming through the speakers 
>> like i expected there to be. There’s a slight delay but i’ve seen worse with 
>> ssh so i can live with the slight delay.
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: a horrible frustrating evening in vmware land

2014-12-13 Thread deedra waters
I was going to use the mac keyboard for both. I dont reqlly want to carry 2 
keyboards to portland but i might have to at this point.

I didn’t see anything in the vmware settings  about anything pertaining to the 
capslock key so no idea what i’m missing.

Speakup has a nice laptop layout perfect for what i was going to do but doesn’t 
work with out the capslock key.


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> On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
> You may want to tweak some of the vmware setting for keyboard and mouse.  
> If you’re running arch with speakup, you may want to consider plugging in an 
> external usb keyboard with a num pad.  This would allow you to interact with 
> speakup as you would on a conventional desktop PC.  
> 
> Chris
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:31 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I installed arch because it was quickest and easier then anything else.
>> 
>> Yes it is easier to get used to once you get used to it. I think my problem 
>> last night was i was tired and annoyed to begin with. I still need to know 
>> why my capslock doesn’t work in the vm though
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not running vmware right now but I have in the past. It really isn't 
>>> that annoying once you get used to it. All new things can be a pain, some 
>>> more so than others. What did you install for your linux vm?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 1:07 AM, deedra waters  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, after realizing /remembering that vmware had a 30 day free trial, i 
>>>> decided to take it and just build a vm with that. I’ll call it the evening 
>>>> from hell, but on the other hand i learned a lot more about how 
>>>> complicated and annoying vmware fusion was but on the other hand i have my 
>>>> linux vm and a sane terminal again:P
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to those who were helping me i greatly appreciate the help. I think 
>>>> before it’s all said and done i’m likely to end up with using the mac guy 
>>>> for those things that are easier to use there and probably running ssh 
>>>> into my macbook to do any command line things from there. It seems like 
>>>> the sanest solution there. I don’t look forward to paying for vmware 
>>>> fusion but on the other hand, once you get past it’s strange layout  it’s 
>>>> a better choice then probably any of the other solutions i was debating. 
>>>> There’s not really lag between the vm and the sound of speak coming 
>>>> through the speakers like i expected there to be. There’s a slight delay 
>>>> but i’ve seen worse with ssh so i can live with the slight delay.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: a horrible frustrating evening in vmware land

2014-12-13 Thread deedra waters
I’ve been using the external keyboard in the vm i just hate carting 2 of the 
things across oregon.:P


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> On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
> I think it
>> is a problem with spekup not recognizing the caps lock key.  Try the 
>> external keyboard with a numpad and let us know how it goes.
> 
> Chris
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:22 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>> 
>> I was going to use the mac keyboard for both. I dont reqlly want to carry 2 
>> keyboards to portland but i might have to at this point.
>> 
>> I didn’t see anything in the vmware settings  about anything pertaining to 
>> the capslock key so no idea what i’m missing.
>> 
>> Speakup has a nice laptop layout perfect for what i was going to do but 
>> doesn’t work with out the capslock key.
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You may want to tweak some of the vmware setting for keyboard and mouse.  
>>> If you’re running arch with speakup, you may want to consider plugging in 
>>> an external usb keyboard with a num pad.  This would allow you to interact 
>>> with speakup as you would on a conventional desktop PC.  
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:31 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I installed arch because it was quickest and easier then anything else.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes it is easier to get used to once you get used to it. I think my 
>>>> problem last night was i was tired and annoyed to begin with. I still need 
>>>> to know why my capslock doesn’t work in the vm though
>>>> 
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not running vmware right now but I have in the past. It really isn't 
>>>>> that annoying once you get used to it. All new things can be a pain, some 
>>>>> more so than others. What did you install for your linux vm?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 1:07 AM, deedra waters  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, after realizing /remembering that vmware had a 30 day free trial, 
>>>>>> i decided to take it and just build a vm with that. I’ll call it the 
>>>>>> evening from hell, but on the other hand i learned a lot more about how 
>>>>>> complicated and annoying vmware fusion was but on the other hand i have 
>>>>>> my linux vm and a sane terminal again:P
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks to those who were helping me i greatly appreciate the help. I 
>>>>>> think before it’s all said and done i’m likely to end up with using the 
>>>>>> mac guy for those things that are easier to use there and probably 
>>>>>> running ssh into my macbook to do any command line things from there. It 
>>>>>> seems like the sanest solution there. I don’t look forward to paying for 
>>>>>> vmware fusion but on the other hand, once you get past it’s strange 
>>>>>> layout  it’s a better choice then probably any of the other solutions i 
>>>>>> was debating. There’s not really lag between the vm and the sound of 
>>>>>> speak coming through the speakers like i expected there to be. There’s a 
>>>>>> slight delay but i’ve seen worse with ssh so i can live with the slight 
>>>>>> delay.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>>> 
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problem with voiceover and email

2014-12-19 Thread deedra waters
Well my mac seems to be speaking  the color of the stuff on the screen the size 
of font and so on. I have no idea how i enabled this but how do i turn it off? 
It’s driving me absolutely insane hearing the fact that my mom wrote something 
in 3 different colors:P


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Re: problem with voiceover and email

2014-12-19 Thread deedra waters
Thanks.  I’m still at a loss how i pulled that off but fixed now thanks a bunch!


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> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Press vo-v to open the verbosity settings. Pre left or right arrow until you 
> find "text attributes", then up or down arrow to "do nothing". You might also 
> set this to beeps if formatting is something you care about, or even speak 
> when proofing a document you need to look right, but most of the time, just 
> leave it off.
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:30 PM, deedra waters > <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well my mac seems to be speaking  the color of the stuff on the screen the 
>> size of font and so on. I have no idea how i enabled this but how do i turn 
>> it off? It’s driving me absolutely insane hearing the fact that my mom wrote 
>> something in 3 different colors:P
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>> 
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itunes radio

2015-01-02 Thread deedra waters
I could use a bit of help and suggestions on the best way to use itunes radio. 
I’ve gotten it mostly figured out but what i want to know is how i can add an 
artist to a station if this is doable. I can create them but  i dont know how 
to add things to stations.

General tips might also be helpful. Thanks!


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Re: itunes radio

2015-01-04 Thread deedra waters
This helped a great deal thank you.

I guess after a month of using voiceover i’m still not used to having to 
interact with everything  in order to manipulate it. 

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> On Jan 3, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Interact with the station in question and find the play more like this table. 
>  Then, interact with the table and vo-space on Add Artist, Song, or Genre.  
> In the popover, inter something in the edit field.
> If you can't interact with the station, you need to vo-space on it to select 
> it.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> On Friday, January 2, 2015 2:39:45 PM UTC-6, waters...@gmail.com wrote:
> I could use a bit of help and suggestions on the best way to use itunes 
> radio. I’ve gotten it mostly figured out but what i want to know is how i can 
> add an artist to a station if this is doable. I can create them but  i dont 
> know how to add things to stations. 
> 
> General tips might also be helpful. Thanks! 
> 
> 
> deedra waters 
> dee...@the-brannons.com  
> 
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I get the stupid award:/

2015-01-05 Thread deedra waters
Over the holidays i lost the emails that were sent reguarding the capslock 
remapped for linux. 

I used the applevis article that claims to remap a key to the insert key, but 
it was meant for a windows vm i think because it didn’t remap my ` to the 
insert key as it claims to do. Someone who deals with applevis should note that 
to this article that it does not work for linux.

Either way If someone could resend the emails talking about remapping my 
capslock key i’d appreciate it. Please send to me so we dont spam the list.


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remapping the capslock for linux

2015-01-05 Thread deedra waters
So i managed to unearth 2 emails which suggests remapping the capslock to an ` 
key however doing this in vmware still does not pass the  capslock to the vm, 
it says ` when i type `. does anyone have any info on how to do this for linux? 
All i see on applevis is stuff for windows something called sharpkeys never 
heard of it.


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Re: remapping the capslock for linux

2015-01-06 Thread deedra waters
Chris, that’s easier said then done i dont need a second keyboard to carry 
around:P and since i got this one with the macbook i’d rather not use 2 
keyboards.

I’ll look into those programs the link i read didn’t say anything about those.

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> On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Have you looked into installing karabiner and seil?
> 
> If you want to use speakup, try plugging in a standard usb keyboard with a 
> numpad.
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Re: remapping the capslock for linux

2015-01-07 Thread deedra waters
Ok so seil and karabiner are installed. I changed the capslock keycode to 50 
since i want it to be the  accent key. I have the capslock mapped to the accent 
key in the vm. I’m running in circles here people, I have no way still to get 
the capslock to pass to the vm wtf is going on here? you guys say this is 
doable but right now i see no way to get it to pass to the vm as a capslock key 
and i “have” to get this thing working, suggestions please?

Again, i changed the capslock to 50 in seil, then mapped the accent key back to 
the capslock key in carabiner though this seems a bit screwed up in the mapping 
department. Then i went to vmware and mapped the accent to the capslock but 
it’s still not passing through. So what the heck am i doing wrong. Is this even 
doable or do i need to toss the apple keyboard in favor of a windows one. If i 
have to do that I’m going to be extremely upset.


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> On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Have you looked into installing karabiner and seil?
> 
> If you want to use speakup, try plugging in a standard usb keyboard with a 
> numpad.
> 
> Chris
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Re: remapping the capslock for linux

2015-01-07 Thread deedra waters
Chris,

So the number pad is what i want ok I’ll look into
deedra waters that tomorrow i’m about btrain dead from beating my head on the 
walls with this stupid thing.:P I havre decided that once it’s backed up i flat 
out refuse to do something like setting this up again Then again i suppose the 
doing this once thing means i should know how to do it the next time.:P


dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Jan 7, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
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> Hi Deedra,
> The purpose of these two programs is to remap the caps lock to an insert key 
> in your vm.  As I recall, the correct code is 110 (not 50).  Of course, you 
> need to disable the caps lock behavior in mac keyboard preferences.  You also 
> don’t need to do any key mappings in vmware preferences.  
> The whole point of remapping capslock is to give you an insert key to use in 
> windows screen readers like nvda and jaws.  This insert key is also 
> recognized by orce in linux but sadly not by speakup.  However,  Karabiner 
> gives you a numpad which speakup does in fact recognize.  
> 
> I wish there were better documentation on all of this, but I think you’re 
> almost there!
> 
> Chris
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 1:26 PM, deedra waters > <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so seil and karabiner are installed. I changed the capslock keycode to 50 
>> since i want it to be the   accent key. I have the capslock mapped to 
>> the accent key in the vm. I’m running in circles here people, I have no way 
>> still to get the capslock to pass to the vm wtf is going on here? you guys 
>> say this is doable but right now i see no way to get it to pass to the vm as 
>> a capslock key and i “have” to get this thing working, suggestions please?
>> Do you want a capslock key or an insert key?
>> Again, i changed the capslock to 50 in seil, then mapped the accent key back 
>> to the capslock key in carabiner though this seems a bit screwed up in the 
>> mapping department. Then i went to vmware and mapped the accent to the 
>> capslock but it’s still not passing through. So what the heck am i doing 
>> wrong. Is this even doable or do i need to toss the apple keyboard in favor 
>> of a windows one. If i have to do that I’m going to be extremely upset.
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Have you looked into installing karabiner and seil?
>>> 
>>> If you want to use speakup, try plugging in a standard usb keyboard with a 
>>> numpad.
>>> 
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disabling voiceover in vmware fusion

2015-01-08 Thread deedra waters
Is there a way to disable voiceover when i’m in my vm? i’ve tried setting up an 
activity to mute it but that doesn’t seem to be working. When voiceover is on, 
when i try to use the arrrows it doesn’t let me so i have to use command+f5 to 
turn it completely off which is just a pita. Any suggestions?


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Re: disabling voiceover in vmware fusion

2015-01-08 Thread deedra waters
as a thought it might be worth a way to put voiceover to sleep some how when 
you cycle through so if you command tab to vmware it goes to sleep/stops and if 
you cycle back to say mail then it wakes up and resumes working. Not 
complaining here just suggesting since i know of other screen readers that go 
to sleep if they’re needed to rather then staying awake if muted and 
interupting keystrokes.


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>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:28 PM, deedra waters > <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
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>> Is there a way to disable voiceover when i’m in my vm? i’ve tried setting up 
>> an activity to mute it but that doesn’t seem to be working. When voiceover 
>> is on, when i try to use the arrrows it doesn’t let me so i have to use 
>> command+f5 to turn it completely off which is just a pita. Any suggestions?
>> 
>> 
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