Yes i want to create the vm but i need to use it with speak the way some of you 
use windows vas for gaming or what ever. Basically I need linux for 1 task and 
that’s it, but it requires interacting with the vm not using ssh to log into 
it. If i understand things right, in order to use virtual box  I’d have to 
generate the vm and run it and could only use it with ssh. Am i wrong here? I 
was lead to believe i’d need vmware fusion to both set up and run the vm.


deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes Ray. It works through voiceover and it's fine if all you need to do is 
> enter a command or two; you can hear what you are typing. But in my opinion 
> it's more of a pain if you want to know the output that is being presented 
> and need to review that output and continue to make entries based on that.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Terminal works through voiceover. You just going to terminal from the 
>> finder, and from there, you can use terminal in voiceover.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone,
>> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 4:08 PM, deedra waters <dee...@the-brannons.com 
>> <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. 
>>> as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does running 
>>> the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to talk?
>>> 
>>>    
>>> deedra waters
>>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable 
>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up 
>>>> and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you want 
>>>> inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not 
>>>> Linux. It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and 
>>>>> not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. I 
>>>>> just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 
>>>>> linux vm that’s useable.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    
>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, 
>>>>>> for which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been 
>>>>>> able to find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do 
>>>>>> plan to eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal 
>>>>>> isn't much fun though it can be used for entering commands without too 
>>>>>> much trouble. With brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the 
>>>>>> terminal for any length of time because I've had issues with terminal 
>>>>>> crashing and it doesn't seem to happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up 
>>>>>> an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux 
>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in 
>>>>>> terminal also.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters <dee...@the-brannons.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of 
>>>>>>> the macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to 
>>>>>>> sit in the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  
>>>>>>> and was actually not bored there for once.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
>>>>>>> hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. 
>>>>>>> This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at 
>>>>>>> least!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. 
>>>>>>> I was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought 
>>>>>>> to play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our 
>>>>>>> lives from the iTunes store *snicker*
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for 
>>>>>>> example tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac 
>>>>>>> and linux with the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get 
>>>>>>> what  you want. Little things like that ended up requiring the 
>>>>>>> linux/unix skills of my fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some 
>>>>>>> other python tools to work properly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple 
>>>>>>> mac type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy 
>>>>>>> vmware fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up 
>>>>>>> and running for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for 
>>>>>>> a way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that 
>>>>>>> just make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as sick 
>>>>>>> as i am, that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to get  
>>>>>>> as much of my medical records as possible put into the app so that way 
>>>>>>> if worse comes to worse all i have to do is turn voiceover off, they 
>>>>>>> should be able to access and read the info then give the thing back to 
>>>>>>> me. In theory at least it sounds like a great idea. I’m probably going 
>>>>>>> to have to find a way of getting the data to export to a readable 
>>>>>>> format such as pdf for them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think 
>>>>>>> that that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes 
>>>>>>> podcasts.:)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com <mailto:dee...@the-brannons.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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