RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hi folks My husband and I got our macs only recently and I have just joined this list. My skype starts in the home screen, but my husband's starts in the contacts table. The only difference between us is that he has skype credits and voicemail activated, and I don't. Could this be the reason? We have compared our mac settings and can't see why our skype would start in different places. Neither of us have it connected to facebook. I don't think he has premium though - just a skype number and voicemail. Unless that is what they call premium. It's not a problem getting to the contacts table though, and I actually find skype quite easy to use on the Mac, no more difficult than under windows. Just one question: how do you read messages people send you? I really can't figure out how to do this. Thanks. Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 3:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > I use Express Talk Pro. It is so ridiculously accessible I had it figured > out in less than 5 minutes literally. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Emrah" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: Sip Phone for Mac (was RE: Skype on the Mac made accessible?) > > >> Blink Pro is a more sophisticated alternative with fabulous support for >> conferencing and extremely accessible. >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: >> >>> Yep. It's simply called Telephone. >>> >>> >>> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:03:15 -0700 >>> > Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible? >>> > From: steve.holme...@gmail.com >>> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> > >>> > In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac >>> > which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command >>> > line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype >>> > may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more >>> > universal. SIP is probably one of the best VOIP protocols out there. >>> > >>> > On 4/30/12, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> > > Ok. >>> > > >>> > > I have found that I can dial numbers again using the keyboard on my > > >>> > > Mac but >>> > > there is no edit field as there use to be when I first acquired the > > >>> > > mac. >>> > > Can this be brought back? >>> > > >>> > > Kawal. >>> > > >>> > > On 30 Apr 2012, at 10:16 PM, Missy Hoppe > > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> Hi there! Thank you so much for starting this topic thread. > >> >>> > >> Hopefully, >>> > >> this is the appropriate place to bring up my number 1 >>> > >> complaint with skype on the mac. >>> > >> When I first got my mac and installed Skype; I believe this was > >> >>> > >> version >>> > >> 5.1 or so, the program always started in the contacts >>> > >> list. Ever sinve 5.3 or so, when I run the program, it starts me on >>> > >> something that Voiceover tells me is called Skype Home. >>> > >> It basicly looks like a facebook clone. Granted, it's not > >> >>> > >> prohibatively >>> > >> difficult to navigate to a table, interract and find >>> > >> my contacts list and stop interracting, but I personally feel that > >>> > >> >> this is >>> > >> something I shouldn't have to do, and it's just >>> > >> aggravating enough that I avoid using skype as often as possible, > >> >>> > >> and only >>> > >> run it periodically to check for updates in hopes >>> > >> that this issue will some day be fixed. I've checked preferences > >> >>> > >> time and >>> > >> again, and there simply isn't a way to configure >>> > >> how the program starts. >>> > >> To make this even more frustrating, when I ask people about id, they > >>> > >> >> claim >>> > >> that they don't have this problem. I'd be more >>> > >> than happy to disconnect skype from facebook if it would fix the > >> >>> > >> problem, >>> > >> but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't >>> > >> really understand the point of the favorites thing either, and miss > >>> > >> >> the >>> > >> simplicity of the first mac version of skype I ever >>> > >> used. Sorry for the aimless rambling, but I hope it makes sense to >>> > >> someone. >>> > >> Missy >>> > >> >>> > >> -Original Message- >>> > >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> > >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal > >> >>> > >> Gucukoglu >>> > >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:07 PM >>> > >> To: macvisionaries >>> > >> Subject: Skype on the Mac made accessible? >>> > >> >>> > >> This message is for Kevin Chow if he is working with Skype on the > >> >>> > >> Mac with >>> > >> Skype Team. >>> > >> >>> > >> Hi Kevin. >>> > >> >>> > >> I have been using Skype on the Mac for a long time and when Google > >>> > >> >> had the >>> > >> program, it worked beautifully with the Mac. >>> > >> However since Microsoft have bought it, it has not been very good on > >>> > >> >> the >>> > >> Mac. >>> > >> >>> > >> The dial pad is inaccessible. Is there any way of getting Skype for > >>> > >> >> Mac >>> > >> fixed? >>> > >> >>> > >> If ther
Re: Skype on the Mac made accessible?)
Hi Mark Thanks for this answer. But how do you even know someone, or who, has sent you a message? Lisette On 2/05/2012, at 6:36 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Lisette: > > Please permit me to answer your question. Once you have selected the contact > who sent you the message in the table under the toolbar, VO right until you > find the HTML content. Interact with this and VO Right until you hear the > relevant message. > > Just FTR, mine seems to come up in the contacts table at the bottom of the > screen. Vo Function Shift Left arrow on my MBP brings me to the tool bar at > the top, and one VO Right from there gets me to the table, which I interact > with and down to "recent," or whatever. Seriously, people, what is the big > deal here?1 > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Lost my mailboxes table in mac mail
Hi all Please can somebody tell me how to get my mailboxes table back. I can only see my inbox and tabbing doesn't get me to my mailboxes table. It just takes me to message content group. I've probably just pressed something I shouldn't have. Thanks so much. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lost my mailboxes table in mac mail
Oh I knew there was an easy answer. Thank you very much. In my gmail account I can't see the spam, starred, all mail, travel folders anymore. There's just an mailbox called blank under trash with nothing in it. I don't think I've changed any of my gmail settings. Should I be in full screen mode? Thanks for helping a new user. On 2/05/2012, at 11:21 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > THere should be an option in the View menu, but the shortcut is > command-shift-M. > > > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On May 1, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Lisette wesseling wrote: > >> Hi all >> Please can somebody tell me how to get my mailboxes table back. I can only >> see my inbox and tabbing doesn't get me to my mailboxes table. It just takes >> me to message content group. I've probably just pressed something I >> shouldn't have. >> Thanks so much. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Deleting voices
Hi Is it possible to delete the many compact voices one doesn't use? Do these compact voices slow the Mac computers down at all? I have downloaded a few of the premium ones but really can't see a use for most of the pre installed voices. I suspect the answer will be no but thought it worth asking. Thanks to all for help on mailbox issues. All sorted now. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: deleting reminders from the I phone 4S
Jenny It's really easy. Go into the reminders app. Find the reminder you want to delete. Just double tap on the reminder where it says "double tap to edit details. ". Then there's a delete button pretty much in the middle of the screen. On 5/05/2012, at 2:00 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: > Hi, > > I just got my 4S, and serie says she can't delete reminders, so how do I do > it manually. > > I never could figure out reminders when I had 5.1 on the 3GS. Now I've got > the 4S, and I still can't figure out how to delete reminders. the only > difference is, that I can make them and make them work now. > > Also, does it do me any good to make location reminders, or are they more for > those who can see. I don't think I can do it via serie can I? If so, will > she tell me when they are checked off. > > I don't think she has told me yet about anything reminder related unless it's > the reminder itself popping up. > > Any help would be appreciated. Just keep in mind I need step by baby step > help with this as I have no clud what I'm doing. > > Jenny > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sound studio questions
Hi I just recently got this programme and understand it's accessible. Sometimes I can get the space bar to work as the play button, and sometimes not. The command p does work consistently. The manual says 3 is supposed to work as the record button but it doesn't. And sometimes the 1 and 2 buttons don't work as rewind and fast forward. Clearly there's something I'm not doing right as people report great success with it. Do you have to interact with any of the tables in order to make editing easier. I have turned cursor tracking off, but the editing functionality is by no means consistent. How do you purchase/download the Lame mp3 encoder so you can save as mp3 files? The manual doesn't tell you where to get it. I already have an app called mp3 converter which uses the lame encoder, so do I need to get anything else? I don't understand how to link Sound Studio with the lame encoder. Has anybody else successfully done this? I found Robert's podcast on basic editing with Sound Studio really helpful, but if anybody had the time to write a more detailed tutorial, or do a podcast on how to set it up to work best with VO I would be very grateful. Like do you zoom to selection, or to window, or doesn't it matter? What table do you have to be in for the editing to work best? Cheers Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: free m4a to mp3?
Hi Stacy I have recently purchased a very accessible mp3 converter called "mp3 converter" from the app store. It was about $5 NZ so not expensive. You have to go into the app, add the files you want to convert and it does it. Very easy to use and not expensive. It takes all sorts of formats and converts them to MP3. You can't just point at a file and do the convert from there - you have to go into the app itself to do it but it does a nice job with lots of sample rate choices. And you can do multiple files at once. Lisette On 6/05/2012, at 7:49 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi, > Is there a program or utility out there that is accessible that will allow me > to highlight a file then go into the context menu to convert it to mp3. > Example, If I have something in dropbox that needs to be converted, I don't > want to go into itunes. > I'd like to be able to highlight it and convert. > If there's something out there, where do I get it and how do I install it? > Thanks, > When I was using windows, I used a program called switch. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ColorVisor, color identifier for iPhone
Hi This Question is to the developer of this app. Will it be made available on other iTunes stores worldwide? It appears not to be available in the New Zealand iTunes store. Lisette On 8/05/2012, at 7:17 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote: > Cheree Heppe here: > > If somebody designed and published an accessible website creator, this would > be a significant empowerment tool for blind consumers. > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > - Original Message - > From: Jan Blüher > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:00 > Subject: ColorVisor, color identifier for iPhone > > Hallo MacVisionaries, > > my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My > app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their > needs. VoiceOver is fully supported. > > You will find the app on the App Store at > http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor > > More information about the app can be found on my web site at > http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/ > > and there is an AppleVis app test at > http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor > > Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in > general are very much appreciated. > > Greetings from Dresden (Germany) > > Jan Blueher > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Now available on the iTunes App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sound studio questions
Hi I'll try to keep these questions brief. 1. Once you've set two marks, how do you delete what's in between them? Pressing command shift g and selecting set start selection to mark 1, and set end selection to mark 2, then pressing delete key results in everything outside the two marks being deleted, not what's in between the marks. In his podcast, Robert doesn't even go to that "go to" menu at all, and I don't understand how he does this. 2. If you've somehow managed to delete the correct sound, , how do you delete the marks? They still appear to be there in the table. If you then set new marks to delete something else, you can lose track of which marks you've used. If you have to use the go to menu to set your selection to whichever your two latest marks are, you could easily forget whether it was marks 1-2, 12-13 or whatever. The marks don't seem to get deleted when you delete what's inside them. 3. Does anybody know how to download or install the lame mp3 so you can save sound studio files as mp3? The Sound Studio manual doesn't tell you how to do this. Thanks Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Understanding Finder
Hi Folks I'm having real trouble understanding how to use the finder. What is the difference between the side bar table and the list view table? Mine both seem to show the same thing. Does finder show all your files in some kind of random order? I'm used to Windows XP with everything being in separate folders. I know this is no longer the Windows way either, but any hints on using finder most effectively would be appreciated, especially about how the two tables are different, and why they are even both there. I think it's a conceptual thing. Thanks Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Understanding Finder
Hi Jonathan Yes thanks that really does help. Lisette - Original Message - From: "Jonathan C. Cohn" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Understanding Finder THe Side bar is a set of shortcuts. Generallly your most common folders and several automatic icons appear there. It is an attempt by Apple to reduce the complexity of a modern computers disk directory. So if you select the Music icon in the sidebar then only the folders contained in the Music folder of your home directory will be visible in the Main viewing pane of the finder window. THere are 4 basic views for the primary window: 1 Icon view (accessed by command-1) 2: List view (accessed by command-2) 3: Browser Mode (Accessed by Command-3) 4: Cover Flow Mode (Accessed by command-4) Most blind users prefer either List mode or browser mode. Icom mode will generally have icons arranged in fairly random order around the window where they can be draged as a person prefers. Cover flow is supposed to be like looking at a stack of Albums one or two at a time.. You get a scrolling set of pictures of all the documents in a folder) THe list mode is fairly to details view on a Windows computer though I don't remember if Windows allows one to open a folder in place in a tree view style mode. Browser mode takes a bit more to understand, but I prefer it 90% of the time. With browser mode the left and right arrows traverse into and out of folders and up and down gives you a sorted list. One issue with browser mode is it is difficult to get filesize or dates. Hope this helps you along the way. Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com +1 *(703) 573-6956 http://www.linkedin.com/in/JCCohn On May 29, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Lisette wesseling wrote: Hi Folks I'm having real trouble understanding how to use the finder. What is the difference between the side bar table and the list view table? Mine both seem to show the same thing. Does finder show all your files in some kind of random order? I'm used to Windows XP with everything being in separate folders. I know this is no longer the Windows way either, but any hints on using finder most effectively would be appreciated, especially about how the two tables are different, and why they are even both there. I think it's a conceptual thing. Thanks Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7179 (20120529) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7179 (20120529) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mac Mail behaving oddly
Hi Folks I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's going on. In Mac Mail, I used to be able to tab and shift tab between the mailboxes table and the message list. I have tab set to automatically interact. For the last few days, tabbing between the two doesn't work anymore. If I'm in the messages list, shift tab takes me to the message content. Tabbing then takes me back into the message list. I can get to the mailboxes table by doing vo-j, but I kind of liked it the other way better. I'm sure I've pressed something without meaning to. Any suggestions? It's only minor in the scheme of things but thanks for any help. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail behaving oddly
Hi Mark Any hints on what the vertical splitter should be set at? When I interact with it, sometimes it says 100 per cent. Vo up arrowing changes it to 97 and then 93 per cent. It never goes any lower than that. If I down arrow with vo it just says "mail busy" forever and I have to close the window and reopen the inbox again. Any hints on interacting with this thing? I've also looked for the preview pane setting but can't find it in the preferences menu or in the main mail menu under view. I'm sure I have seen it before though but if anybody can remind me where it is I would be grateful. Thanks Lisette On 2/06/2012, at 3:14 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > This apparently has to do with the size of the vertical splitter between the > mailboxes and messages table. Interact with the vertical splitter and adjust > it with VO up or down arrows; this apparently fixes it. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
turning view pane on in mac mail
Hi Where do you change the view pane setting for Mac Mail please? Lisette __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7188 (20120601) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail behaving oddly
Ronald How did you manage to change the size of the vertical splitter? When I try to go below 93 per cent, mail just says "busy" and I have to close and restart mail for anything to work. I've let it say "busy" for half an hour in case it really was busy doing something, but eventually I closed it. Did you vo down arrow. Then did you uninteract with the splitter, or do something else to save the new size? I'm glad this worked for you. This gives me hope that I should keep re trying here. Lisette On 3/06/2012, at 12:21 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: > Hi Mark, > Thanks very much for the info. I had the same issue as Lisette and couldn't > figure it out either. Was beginning to think my Mac was haunted or something > like that;) > Adjusting the vertical splitter to 59% did the trick for me and I can > thankfully now jump with tab and shift tab back and forth again :) > the percentage may indeed differ for each person how the rest of the screen > is set. > thanks again. > regards, > Ronald > > Op 1 jun. 2012, om 17:14 heeft Mark BurningHawk Baxter het volgende > geschreven: > >> This apparently has to do with the size of the vertical splitter between the >> mailboxes and messages table. Interact with the vertical splitter and >> adjust it with VO up or down arrows; this apparently fixes it. >> >> >> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> • My home page: >> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items
Hi Chris I agree with Veronica here. I'm a new Mac user and don't really get interacting either. But I'm learning by trial and error, and not stressing if I don't understand the concept. Your ring binder analogy and the zoom camera one actually really helped me, so thanks for those. I do know that, because I have my tab key set to automatically interact, I'm possibly interacting with things more than I realise. Some purists might say I shouldn't have my tab key set that way, because I should know what I'm interacting with, but it makes it feel a little more like Windows sometimes and it helps me get the job done. I don't probably care enough to always know when I am, and am not interacting. I suggest a "trial and error" approach with the student. Get her to accomplish some simple tasks like opening and saving a file, writing and sending an email. If she can do that, or whatever else she wants to do, the conceptual stuff may follow later. I never really got many of the Jaws concepts either re mouse, invisible and pc cursor. But I knew when I needed to try the pc cursor, and how to tether the two, to achieve what I needed. Good luck. Lisette On 4/06/2012, at 4:31 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Hi there! > Well, I am not a trainer, but I thought I'd describe my difficulties > understanding the interactive concept and see if it helps at all. I do > understand your bookshelf analogy except for one thing. If I'm in the finder > and come upon a folder name, I just issue an open command to go into it. If I > don't want to open the folder, I just hit the arrow key to move to the next > folder title. So, I didn't have to do anything there with VoiceOver. I'm > really baffled by things like sometimes having to interact with a table and > sometimes just arrowing down, as I do in the messages table in mail. So, what > did I finally do for me? Gave up on trying to get the concept. > I did better with rote learning. Interact here. Don't interact here. Try > something and if it doesn't work, try interacting. I can't think of anything > in the Windows screen-reader world that is like this. So the best phrase I > was able to offer myself was this, some things just don't happen > automatically in VoiceOver and you have to tell VoiceOver what you want it to > look at. That's the only thing that allowed me to deal with what seems like > inconsistencies in when one does or does not need to interact with something. > It is kind of a goofy thing and I can see why some people would struggle. > And you're right. The only real answer is practice, trial and error. See if > it helps to tell your student that other people have trouble figuring this > out too and we all just try things together. Maybe if your student can then > relax a bit about it, not getting to that brain ache place trying to > understand something, he or she may start practicing again. I know I've given > myself breaks, just to let my own frustration wind down. > And good for you for continuing to try to reach this person. Keep it up. > Hope this helps. > > Veronica > > At 09:10 PM 6/3/2012, you wrote: >> The way I explain VoiceOver's interacting with an object or region is to >> think of what a sighted person does with their eyes when they want to focus >> in on a small region of the screen. They squint their eyes a bit and narrow >> their gaze and focus in on a region of the screen that might have small >> details. It's also akin (sort of) to the zoom feature of a camera; when in >> zoom mode, you can only see certain elements at a time, but you can see >> great detail. >> >> HTH. >> >> >> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> • My home page: >> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI > Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com > Veronica Elsea, Owner > Laurel Creek Music Designs > Santa Cruz, California > 831-429-6407 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
getting mailboxes to show up[
HI I seem to have lost my "on my mac" mailboxes. I can see they must be there when I go to the menu and look for "move to mailbox". But I can't see them when I down arrow through the list of mailboxes. Any ideas welcome and thanks in advance. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting mailboxes to show up[
HI Mark Thanks for your suggestions. I can expand them fine - I just can't even see the on my mac inbox, collapsed or otherwise. I've looked in the account settings in preferences, but can't see anything there. Should I have the favourites bar on or off? Lisette On 10/06/2012, at 10:23 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Try hitting the right arrow if you hear "collapsed." this should expand them. > The other thing to try on a "collapsed," item is Vo Shift Backslash (VO > Vertical bar?) which is a toggle to expand/contract a sublevel or group. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting mailboxes to show up[
Hi Mark Yes, that's right. No on my mac mailbox shows up, not even collapsed. The vertical splitter seems fine at present, so don't really want to mess with it again ()grins). But nice idea though. Lisette On 10/06/2012, at 12:32 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > So, when you're in the Mailboxes table and you arrow down, you don't hear "on > my mac, level one collapsed," or something like this? Hmmm. Maybe it's time > to try playing with the vertical splitter again? *grin* That's not an actual > suggestion this time. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
"on my mac" inbox not showing up in mail
Hi again Mark, Matt et al So just to be clear, I can see an "on my mac" mailbox under trash, which is empty. There is no other "on my mac" mailbox anywhere. Yet when I go to create a new mailbox, I can see the names of the two mailboxes I've created under "on my mac". I can't get into them from there of course, but I can see they are supposed to be there. I've combed the menus and preferences, but can't find anything relevant to how I might unhide this mailbox. I will try googling this myself also. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has experienced this problem. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad
My understanding is that Prismo is not worth bothering with unless you have an iPhone 4s. On anything lower the camera isn't good enough. That's why I haven't bought it. I hear it's quite good on the 4s though Lisette - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:09 AM Subject: Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad Hello Mary, On 18 Jun 2012, at 21:54, Mary Scott wrote: So does this maake it possible to take a picture of printed material and it will read it back on the iPhone? Not exactly. Once Prizmo is set up correctly, you select Text, take the picture of the page, tap Use and wait for the OCR to be completed. It takes some practice to get the knack. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7230 (20120618) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7230 (20120618) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moving to top of message table
Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called "select by date menu button". I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key > as well! > So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my > Right! > Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press > right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! > That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I > stay in Subject! > hth Colin > PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! > > On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? >> When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called "select by date >> menu button". I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously >> arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. >> Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. >> >> Lisette >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hi Thanks to you for trying to help us figure this out. When I follow the steps to set a short cut key to move to top of email list, it still takes me to the "sort by date" button. vo down arrow takes me to the top of the message list, even though I've set it to go to the visible end. Could my inbox be set to really small size? I've pressed the zoom button but don't actually know how big it is or should be. Is there a way to set mail to go back to defaults, preferably without losing my accounts and messages? Lisette On 21/06/2012, at 5:58 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > OK When you open the menu to select which command you wish to use instead of > going to the navigation sub menu at or near the bottom should be the Jump > sub menu! > If it is not there maybe Apple have removed or renamed it! > It should also turn up if you call up VO commands with VO+H+H > hth Colin > > On 21 Jun 2012, at 05:17, Les Kriegler wrote: > >> I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option >> for Jump Submenu. >> >> Les >> On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >>> Sorry this could be my fault! >>> Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump >>> sub menu instead and see if that works! >>> Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! >>> Colin >>> >>> On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional >>>> info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not >>>> work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not >>>> work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they >>>> notice. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in >>>>> the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! >>>>> Just check which one you have! >>>>> And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not >>>>> working for you! >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in >>>>>> other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top >>>>>> of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option >>>>>> 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I >>>>>> missed? >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! >>>>>>> But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! >>>>>>> I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 >>>>>>> You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be >>>>>>> controlled by applescripts ] check box and check it! >>>>>>> 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and >>>>>>> select the Keyboard commander tab! >>>>>>> 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which >>>>>>> option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] >>>>>>> 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some >>>>>>> already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! >>>>>>> Next to the table is the add button select it! >>>>>>> 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key >>>>>>> in mind]because it must be put in 1st! >>>>>>> 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! >>>>>>> So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go >>>>>>> to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top >>>>>>> or for the end most visible end! >>>>>>> hth colin >>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I as well use control-option-shift
Re: right or left mouse button
Hi Jerry I don't know the full answer to this either, but you can get an applications type of menu by doing vo shift m a lot of the time. On 23/06/2012, at 3:01 PM, Gerry Cook wrote: > Hi everyone I hope your having a nice day where ever you are, and whatever > your doing. on the mac i wonder if you can do left or right mouse button like > you do in windows for contextual menu and activating a programme thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Copying a disk
Hi I want to make an identical copy of a disk. I understand I need to use the disk utility app in order tocreate a disk image on my hard drive, and then burn that onto a blank disk. In Disk Utility, do I just go into new/image? Or do I use open/image? Any steps gratefully received? I assume the app is accessible. It certainly looked pretty standard when I opened it up just now. Many thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MBP battery
Hi Johny Press vo m twice and right arrow along that menu. On 25/06/2012, at 7:46 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: > Hi all, > > Good morning. > > Is there a quick and easy way to review the battery level on my MBP? > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > > Not of this world, > I am born of The forty-second generation > A new, powerful race, never seen before. > > Wish to join? > > Initiation is completely FREE! > > NOTE: Limited time sensitive offer. > > Johnny "Angel" Chilelli > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
skype answer dialog, was Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?
Really??? When somebody calls me on skype, I can just vo right arrow to the accept button and it's there. I'm runing the latest skype and Lion. On 26/06/2012, at 3:14 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > that key assignment was not set as default and in Skype 2.8 (which I use on > OS X 10.6) it doesn't even show as an assignment at all. I had to use a mute > Skype script. also, I have to set Skype to auto-answer as there doesn't > appear to be any way I can access the answer dialog (I know, I have tried > every method available here and no joy). > > -eric > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> Hi. >> What's wrong with pressing command shift M to mute Skype? >> On 2012-06-25, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> applescript is as (if not more) powerful than the scripting interface for >>> jaws. since it is built-on to OS X, you can do a lot more with it than you >>> could in windows with jaws scripts. Apple scripts can be set up as system >>> services, application interfaces or even assigned to shortcuts. I use one >>> such to allow me to mute the mic in Skype. I am not sure you can do this >>> with jaws. anyway, that is my take on applescripts and OS X. at least, OS X >>> is designed with accessibility in mind (of which windows is not). >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: >>> VoiceOver has grown very fast in the last 3 years. Wait until Next OS is released, there are going to be nice surprises on accessibility. I have being working with tables in pages lastly and there is always a work around things. Why don't somebody, instead of creating a separated screen reader, makes Apple scripts to solve some issues? I think that VoiceOver y very powerful in combination with Applescript. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 25/06/2012, a las 20:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió: > Whole heartedly! agree. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - > From: Ray Foret Jr > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:42 AM > Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option? > > Couldn't be more wrong. Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky > crashy windows? It's not up to the screen reader to make things more > accessible with more and more scripts which you have to keep up with; > rather, that's up to the app developers. That's how it is in the Mac > world. FS make a Mac screen reader? Are you seriously kidding me? No > way it ain't gonna happen. > > GWMicro neither. They already have enough on their plate worying about > windows type stuff. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote: > >> Hello, >> After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal >> opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the >> mac platform. >> >> I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of >> the screenreader voiceover with the osx. >> The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and >> the function-keys with the spoken values. >> And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with >> voiceover support everywhere. >> >> However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is >> possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also >> iWork's aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there >> are several usability issues with the browsers on the mac, some >> ellements of the os , like >> Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to >> navigate e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they >> are in a table and in pages, you can't work with tables on a comfortable >> way. >> the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with >> voiceover... >> >> My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's >> accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be >> very welcome I think. >> With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to >> use all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites. Perhaps >> it should push apple to make their screenreader better on a faster >> speed. >> >> Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet? >> I see 2 reasons for this: >> 1. Apple should not be happy
Re: NFB Convention -- who is coming
Sorry but what does this have to do with the Mac? On 28/06/2012, at 9:48 AM, Hank Smith wrote: > I am coming to the nfb convention. > I will be with the saavi grou. > southern arizona asocian of the visually impaired. > On 6/27/2012 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> Hi Nancy. >> First, we have AC. We need it. I live in Dallas, I know. >> >> Here's my question. Are you bringing the Macs as well? If I get a braille >> display, I want one that works not only on i devices, but also on the Mac as >> well. >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Nancy M wrote: >> >>> Are you planning to come to the NFB convention this weekend + next week >>> (yes, the one in Dallas where it was 108 degrees Farenheit yesterday!) >>> >>> If so, we'd love to get together! >>> >>> We'll be in booth B-31. We'll have some of our trainers on hand and we >>> are bringing samples of all the i-devices and all our products for you to >>> try. Plus we'll have some goodies to give away to our friends. >>> >>> If you'll be here, please drop us a line support(at)digit-eyes(dot)com or >>> just stop by and introduce yourself. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/vFlub0487RUJ. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Strange mail issue: "this message cannot be sent by the server" etc.
Hi I have this too with my pop account sometimes. Usually, they send eventually. I haven't found a work around, except to just wait, or use another email address. I would be interested in anybody else's experiences. Lisette On 1/07/2012, at 2:17 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > Why are some of my messages being sent out with no problem, while others are > getting a "cannot send message using this server" message? There is seemingly > no rhyme or reason to what is being "rejected" and kept in my Outbox. > Thanks for any ideas. > Christine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
safari question re heading navigation
Hi I wonder if anybody can explain why, very often, safari reports there are no next headings to be found, but when I continue to arrow right using quick nav, I hear all sorts of headings listed. I thought that by pressing h, or the number, it would jump to the next heading. Sometimes, it works fine, and other times it doesn't. I presume it is something to do with the way a website is coded, but I don't understand why Safari does report them as you arrow along the page, but not when trying to jump to them. As I say, in some sites it works fine, and in others it doesn't. I don't know what mode I am in, or how to change this. Would this make a difference? I still have so much to learn. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Page up? Page down?
Hi Johny Page up is fn shift up arrow, page down is fn shift down arrow. With the vo keys. A bit of a fist full in my view but that's what it is. The keyboard helper announces them if you want to practice getting it right. Lisette On 10/07/2012, at 7:02 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: > Hi all, > > Just a short, little question: > > In the VO help keyboard commands for navigating around documents, I seethe > command for Page up is VO Page up, and for page down, the command is VO Page > Down. My problem is that there are no Page up or Page down keys on my MBP > like on a regular or full-sized keyboard. What keys or keyboard commands do I > use for page up and page down on my MBP? > > Thanks, > > Johnny > > > Not of this world, > I am born of The forty-second generation > A new, powerful race, never seen before. > > Wish to join? > > Initiation is completely FREE! > > NOTE: Limited time sensitive offer. > > Johnny "Angel" Chilelli > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Keystroke for moving between windows within same application
Hi folks Can someone please remind me what this is? I should have written it down when posted earlier. I know about command tab, but there's another one somebody mentioned earlier this week. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mountain Lion Mail
> Hi folks > I'm afraid I got a bit confused with the flurry of emails on this subject. > Has anybody found a way to get rid of those buttons between the mailboxes > table and message table? I like to be able to tab from one table to the > other, and not have to hop over "sort by date" , "hide mail activity button", > "mail action button" and "New mailbox action button". > Is there a way to get rid of these. I have put the sliders up to 100 per > cent. I'm not using classic view. > Any ideas? > I love the calendar in ML. The install was easy peasy and so far I am think > VO is snappier. I'm using Karen whose chip monk bug is still not fixed. > > Lisette > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Making notification short cut
Hi, How are people making the notification short cut? I tried to do this using the voice over keyboard commander but notifications wasn't one of the apps you can choose there. Please can someone describe how they made a short cut to take you straight to the notification centre? Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty
Hi I had this problem too and fixed it by 1. turning on quick nav briefly. I heard blank, blank, blank, as I arrowed down underneath my trash folder. 2. I turned quick nav off again. Then I did vo backslash on where the first blank was and everything got expanded again. Sometimes vo backslash doesn't work and right arrow does. It's a bit hit and miss. Lisette On 27/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > You might have a collapsed group of mailboxes on your hands. Inbox is often > collapsed, and if it is, you can press right-arrow to expand it. This goes > for Gmail, too. > > HTH, > Teresa > On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi guys. >> I got Mountain Kitty installed just fine, even though it took forever. I'm >> really pleased that I could do the installation process myself, but I'm glad >> also that Les warned us about turning VoiceOver back on after a minute. I >> almost had heart failure when I pressed command 5 and nothing happened for a >> second or two. I did have to call that great 877 number last night because a >> program I thought I had uninstalled insisted on raising up its ugly head, >> even though I had—I thought—erased all of its files. That took us a while, >> and the man was very nice and knowledgeable about things. I discovered ast >> night that I had this weird mail problem, but we couldn't get to that last >> night. >> >> I can't get to all my mailboxes. The one where I have messages sent for this >> list is one of them. I will need to use iPhone to read anything from this >> list right now. I can get to my inbox and some others like archives. >> However, some of the ones I created I can't find. I don't think they're >> gone—I onepe—because I keep hearing the messages coming in, but I can't >> reach them unless they're in my inbox. Anybody got any ideas on this one? >> >> >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: where are my contacts?
Hi Alex My contacts is in my doc somewhere near the left. Hope you find yours. Lisette On 27/07/2012, at 9:55 AM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > It’s in applications, trust me. Or are you talking about your actual contacts. > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:55 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: where are my contacts? > > Hi all, We talked about how iOS and Lion automagically sync contacts. So, a > stupid question: where is my mac's contacts app? I don't see it in spotlight > or in applications, not even under utilities. What am I missing? Thanks, as > always, for your help. > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com;http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: where are my contacts?
Alex, If you update to Mountain Lion contacts will be more like on the iPod. Same goes for the calendar which is a joy in ML. Lisette On 27/07/2012, at 10:15 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > The only thing now is that, in Lion at least, information is annoying to get > to. I search for a name, then have to vo-right, interact, vo-right again, and > interact again before I can see information like a phone number. Is there a > better way, or do i just have to get used to it? I love that what I do on my > iPod is reflected in my mac's address book, but the interface on the mac > isn't great for vo users... unless I'm missing something. > On 26 Jul 2012, at 18:09, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > >> Yep, I see it now. It's in Applications; an interesting change to make note >> of. >> >> >> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> • My home page: >> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: notification question:
Hi Chenelle Just press the actual keys you want to use for the short cut. I held down command option and then added the n. You may even be able to press them all at once but I held down the first two and then added the third, then let them all go. It really is easy. You won't hear any feedback, but if you vo left and then right again you will hear the keystroke you just entered spoken. Good luck. Lisette On 27/07/2012, at 11:06 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote: > Hi all, > > I will be purchasing mountain lion next wednesday. I wanted to know! when > you get to the field w where you have to inter your short cut key stroke, > do you just spell out every word or do you have to put the plus or minus > sign insde of the field? This will be the first time that i actually create > a short cut key stroke for any of my applications etc. > any help that i could get in walking me through this process i would most > greatly appreciate it. > sincerely, chenelle > thanis again everyone for your help. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over voices inside mountain lion:
Hi Ricardo Karen premium and Serena still change pitch randomly. The pronunciation is better though. Cheers Lisette On 27/07/2012, at 6:37 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > There the same voices but, they have been improoved a bit. There is really > no more instance of the premium voices pitch changing randomly. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Are these new to Mountain Lion, or are they the Nuance voices Lion >> introduced? >> >> On 7/26/12, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: >>> Yes, there are different voices with Mountain Lion that you can download. >>> Yes, you can switch to British, Australian or even SOuth African or Indian >>> English. >>> >>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> • My home page: >>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Busy, busy everywhere
Hi Alex I would actually say the opposite. There is less busy busy on my 2011 MacBook pro with 4 gb ram than in Lion. Start up is definitely faster and I think VO is a bit snappier. Lisette On 28/07/2012, at 4:17 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Has anyone else noticed this? I went through enough of that constant > busy stuff before I got a working monitor. If 10.8 causes those > problems, I don't think I'll be upgrading until they're fixed. > > On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman >> wrote: >> >>> Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" messages in >>> Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, >>> toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. >>> Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it >>> almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? >>> Work-arounds? TIA. >>> Christine >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > mehg...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Removing mailboxes from your favourites group
Hi folks Thanks to all for answering the questions' we've all had. I've learned so much over the last few days thanks to all the keystrokes and detailed instructions. I learned how to drag and drop things into my favourites bar, but how do you remove things from there. I've got 7 mailboxes there now and need to remove some. I think Ricardo did a podcast on this but the steps there don't work for me. Maybe this has changed in ML. If anybody has some ideas I'd be grateful. Cheers Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Removing mailboxes from your favourites group
> Hi Teresa > Thanks for this. I wanted to remove drafts from the favourites bar but > apparently it's not removable. Do you know how many things you can have in > there? I've got 6 and want to add one more but when I try to drag it there vo > says "failed to insert mailbox". It makes the dragging noises and then fails. > I suspect I've got too many, or I need to resize something. > > Lisette > > On 29/07/2012, at 3:48 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Hi, Lisette, >> >> You can drag the mailboxes back to the list.. I use whatever method I can, >> whether it's the VO-command-space method or the VO-comma, period, less and >> greater methods, or the trackpad. These are simply shortcuts to the actual >> mailboxes. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >>> Hi folks >>> Thanks to all for answering the questions' we've all had. I've learned so >>> much over the last few days thanks to all the keystrokes and detailed >>> instructions. I learned how to drag and drop things into my favourites bar, >>> but how do you remove things from there. I've got 7 mailboxes there now and >>> need to remove some. >>> I think Ricardo did a podcast on this but the steps there don't work for >>> me. Maybe this has changed in ML. >>> If anybody has some ideas I'd be grateful. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Lisette >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Deleting tone
Hi Can this be changed from the very high pitched tone to something else? I like to have a tone when I'm deleting something, but the only option available is a very high pitched one which hurts my ears. The one for mis spelled words is better, and I seem to recall choosing that somewhere once but can't find it anywhere. So I'm asking about choosing the tone you hear when deleting text. I know you can have it as pitch change, or nothing, or speak, but I want a different tone. It may not be possible, but thought it worth asking. Thanks Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Removing mailboxes from your favourites group
Hi Ricardo Thanks for these detailed instructions. . Ihad already listened to your podcast and tried it then and again now. The mouse down works fine. When I go to do the mouse up with command vo shift spacebar, I again hear mouse down on wherever I am in the mailbox. And then that mailbox has gone into the favourites bar. Am I supposed to interact with the mailboxes table? I've also somehow managed to put one mailbox inside another. It's all turning into a bit of a mess. Is this the same as drag and drop or something else? Where should I be in the mailboxes table when I do the up mouse? It seems to want to be a down mouse for me. I'm using normal view and have pressed the zoom button. Cursor tracking is on and everything is following everything. Thanks. Lisette On 29/07/2012, at 9:12 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > yes it is. All items in the favorites bar are removable. Try going to the > favorites bar, navigate to the drafts folder, then interact. Press VO > command F5 just to make sure the mouse cursor is on the drafts folder. Now, > press VO command shift spacebar. This will perform a mouse down. Stop > interacting with favorites now, and navigate to the mailbox table. finally, > press VO command shift spacebar again. You should hear a woosh sound, and > the drafts folder should be removed from the favorites bar. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >>> Hi Teresa >>> Thanks for this. I wanted to remove drafts from the favourites bar but >>> apparently it's not removable. Do you know how many things you can have in >>> there? I've got 6 and want to add one more but when I try to drag it there >>> vo says "failed to insert mailbox". It makes the dragging noises and then >>> fails. I suspect I've got too many, or I need to resize something. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> On 29/07/2012, at 3:48 AM, Teresa Cochran >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Lisette, >>>> >>>> You can drag the mailboxes back to the list.. I use whatever method I can, >>>> whether it's the VO-command-space method or the VO-comma, period, less and >>>> greater methods, or the trackpad. These are simply shortcuts to the actual >>>> mailboxes. >>>> >>>> HtH, >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks >>>>> Thanks to all for answering the questions' we've all had. I've learned so >>>>> much over the last few days thanks to all the keystrokes and detailed >>>>> instructions. I learned how to drag and drop things into my favourites >>>>> bar, but how do you remove things from there. I've got 7 mailboxes there >>>>> now and need to remove some. >>>>> I think Ricardo did a podcast on this but the steps there don't work for >>>>> me. Maybe this has changed in ML. >>>>> If anybody has some ideas I'd be grateful. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Lisette >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Ttrackpad gesture to open notification center in ML
> Hi > Slight correction. If you leave track pad commander on, you need to use ctrl > with the two finger left swipe. Without the track pad commander on, you don't > need to use the control key. > This may be standard practice, but I just tried it and that's what I found. > > > Lisette > On 30/07/2012, at 7:46 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is incorrect. >> >> The gesture works with trackpad commander on or off. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jul 29, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: >> >>> I was told that this was only with trackpad commander disabled though. I >>> suppose perhaps we could assign a shortcut with it enabled? >>> Allison >>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Blinkin wrote: >>> All, Just so you all know. If you have a trackpad on your Mac you can do a two finger swipe from the right edge or your trackpad to the left to open your notification center. Have a good day! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain Lion- missing mailboxes on my Mac
Hi Sharon This appears to be a problem for many people. I had some success by Pressing the zoom button at the left of the screen. I get to it bu uninteracting with everything and vo left arrowing past the tool bar. 2. Then I right vo arrowed to the mailboxes list and went down to where I knew the new inboxes should be. With quick nav on I heard blank which is how I knew there was something there. With quick nav off nothing was spoken or heard. 3. IN that place I did get vo backslash to work. I might have interacted there too, can't remember. But vo backslash did work. Now I can left and right arrow to expand and collapse things. I don't know if that helped any. I've managed to put one mailbox inside another and despite the mouse down and up instructions helpfully given by Ricardo, I can't get this to work. I'm following everything to the letter but it's not working for me. Clearly the mail programme is a bit temperamental. I sometimes can't interact with the text of an email, and have to tab and shift tab a few times for the focus to come right again. Try zooming like I said. Lisette On 30/07/2012, at 2:10 PM, Sharon Ballantyne wrote: > Hi all, > > Using Mountain Lion on my Mac, I just went to move a message to a new mailbox > that I created and except for the basic six standard mailboxes, none of my > mailboxes are visible. > > I know there was a thread about expanding with right arrow but I am not > getting success. > > I have also noted my move command under menu and messages is not there as a > short cut using first letter navigation for m. I get a move again dimmed > option showing. If I go to menu and message and then manually arrow down I > have a move to submenu that exists but I am guessing the lack of command is > linked to the mailboxes not being visible. > > Any help appreciated. > > Sharon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problems with macbook air and/or mountain Lion, help needed pls!
Hi William I'm not trying to be funny, but have you tried turning up the volume on your speakers? I know Apple devices can sometimes turn the volume down. It happened on my iPhone a few times. Have you tried plugging in a head set to see if the sound works there? You can all shoot me now, but it's worth asking. If you hear other Mac sounds, then that's not your problem and higher minds than mine will need to step in. Lisette On 30/07/2012, at 6:41 PM, William Windels wrote: > Hello all, > Yesterday afternoon, I had a strange situation on my macbook air with 10.8 > installed. > Voiceover was doing strange and I decided to restart voiceover but this > wouldn't work. > I have done a normal reboot but voiceover wouldn't work also. > Then, I decided to do a permission and disc repair from inside the recovery > partition and all (normal) errors where repaired. > Then, after rebooting back in mountain lion, I had still no sound and no > braille (connected with usb) > My girlfriend sqaw that the voiceover-utility program was opened so, > voiceover was active or not? > > After some tries, without succes, I decided to restore my system with > time-machine. > This seems a long work in progress since the restore should take about 35 > hours, (seems not normal I think). > Now, I was thinking to do a hardwaretest with (command)+d at startup but this > should be without voiceover? > > My questions are: > 1. Has it happend with others that voiceover wasn't reacting at all in 10.8 > with the latest macbook air (11 inch) and if so, what you have done? > 2. Could I have done or could I do more tests myself then : disc and > permission repair? > 3. Could it be normal that a time-machine restore takes about 35 hours and if > not, what could be possible problem(s)? > 4. A hardwaretest with command+d at startup could be a good option bu I > supose I can't do it myself as blind macuser? are perhaps there are some > workarounds? > > I really hope someone can give some hints / ideas? > > Thank you for the reactions and have a nice day! > > Kind regards > William Windels > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
speakable items
How are you guys calibrating your mic? I see the phrases you're supposed to say and the slider is at 100 % but I don't get how to actually calibrate things. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speakable items
Hi Donna But how do you know they have been recognised if you can't see the green light or whatever it says you are supposed to see? Does it repeat them back at you? Thanks Lisette On 31/07/2012, at 3:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > You just kind of have to move the slider till the phrases you are saying get > recognized. Mine worked best around 60%. > Best, > Donna > On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> How are you guys calibrating your mic? I see the phrases you're supposed to >> say and the slider is at 100 % but I don't get how to actually calibrate >> things. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: making appointments in 10.8
Hi William I use command plus n exclusively for entering appointments. In english I write something like "dinner with x on Friday 3 August at 7 PM." I write it exactly like that. It puts everything perfectly into the right places in the calendar. I don't know how it would be in Dutch, but you could try something similar. Actually, I am Dutch myself but grew up speaking English. I would be interested if something like "eten met x op Frijdag 3 Augustus om 1900 uur" would work. Let me know. Lisette - Original Message - From: "William Windels" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: making appointments in 10.8 Hello, When I make a new appointment in 10.8, I am trying to type in the title field something like appointment 6/08/12 13:00 ON this way, the appointment should start the 6th of august at 13:00. Unfortunately, this seems only to work if I use the button to add a new appointment not when I press command+n. This was also in 10.7. I was wondering If someone is doing it on another way of knows a way that it should also work with command+n? Kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7342 (20120731) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7342 (20120731) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speakable items
Hi Donna and Virginia I don't even get any sound when I press and hold my speak key. I get nothing. I know I'm not alone in this but can't figure it out at all. It's not a show stopper for me if this can't work on my machine, but it would be nice. On 1/08/2012, at 12:44 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > I for some reason didn't have to do the calibration. Although I have a like > trouble getting things going, once I did, things went fine. Maybe you only > have to do the calibration thing if the computer is not understanding > consistently. > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> You just kind of have to move the slider till the phrases you are saying get >> recognized. Mine worked best around 60%. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >>> How are you guys calibrating your mic? I see the phrases you're supposed to >>> say and the slider is at 100 % but I don't get how to actually calibrate >>> things. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion
Have you tried pressing the zoom button? On 1/08/2012, at 2:12 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > as I stated in my initial message, yes. I have tried this as well. I have > tried VO\, right arrow, VO right arrow, the oh space I have literally tried > everything. Nothing seems to be doing the trick. Even closing and reopening > mail, restarting voiceover, and even going as far as to restart my entire > MacBook nothing is working. > > thanks, Chris. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I, too, use ML in standard view. I interact with the table, but I close mail >> so rarely that this is not a hastle. You mentioned disclosure triangles. >> Have you tried vo-backslash yet? It seems unnecessary since the right arrow >> should work, but it may help in the meantime. >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: >> >>> yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow >>> leopard here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also, >>> remember, I first am not interacting with the message list table. I simply >>> VO right arrow over to it, and then use my up and down arrow keys to move >>> through the list of messages. I do not first interact. I do not look at >>> each column of the message list table individually like some people do. I >>> did try interacting however, just to see if it would work. It did not. >>> there has got to be someway to expand that disclosure triangle, but I just >>> cannot figure it out. restarting voiceover, did no good, neither did >>> restarting mail. Furthermore, restarting my entire Mac did absolutely no >>> good. I am quite sure that there should be a fairly easy solution to this >>> problem, I just am drawing a mental blank on what that solution would be. >>> Normally, I am extremely good with this type of stuff, however I must say, >>> this time, I am completely baffled. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail? On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly > embarrassed! > > the very email thread that may have answered this question, I deleted > thinking was completely irrelevant to me at the current time. I am > currently using the Standard view of mail. I am 100% certain that I am > not set to the classic view. I know exactly how to switch it however if I > need to. I furthermore have disabled the option to Group related > messages. usually, I do not interact with the message list table. I > simply VO right Aero over to it, and then just use my up and down arrow > keys to move through the list of messages. If I want to read an email, I > didn't press VO J to jump to the message body and begin reading. excuse > me. Siri totally messed that last sentence up. I was trying to say I then > press VO J to jump to the body of the message and begin reading. got a > love dictating on an iPhone! LOL! frankly, I'm lazy, and do not feel like > going back and editing. Sorry. Anyway… I have conversation thread view > enabled. whenever I see a thread that has multiple conversations with in > it, say, two conversations, or more, I cannot for the life of me figure > out how to expand the conversations. I have tried hitting just the right > arrow key, VO right Aravind, pressing VO\, and more, to absolutely no > avail. I haven't even gone so far as to press VO space on the email > thinking that that would expand, however that also did absolutely no > good. what is the best method for doing this. I love my conversation > thread view! I used it on a very regular basis and lion. I never thought > that I would see the day I would like using mail that way, but I actually > swear by it! if there is a conversation thread that I do not wish to > read, I can simply hit the delete key on the topmost node of the thread, > and just like that: Bam! The whole thread is now gone. absolutely > brilliant! As of now, I have disabled thread view until I can get a more > concrete answer on the best method for doing this. I hope that this > feature has not been broken in Mountain lion from a voiceover > perspective. That would royally suck, if so. > > again I am quite positive that this question has already been > answered/addressed, however I was a stupid idiot and deleted the thread > without first thinking that later it might be relevant to me. I feel like > a total fool. > > anyway, thank you for your help. I promise I will try to be more careful > with my email in the future going forward. > > Chris. > > > Sent from my iPhone
speakable items - system dialogs menu
Hi Folks Ever since playing with the speakable items I've got this system window on my screen called "system dialogs menu". When I do command o to open it (the only thing which seems to do anything) it says "speech feedback survey". I can't close this or do anything with it. How do I get rid of it please? Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion
Hi Chris Yeah that's the one I meant. I have noticed that sometimes when I press the zoom button, things work a bit better in mail for a while. Sometimes, it fixes an inability to interact for instance. It was just a wild guess. I have no sight so have no idea what the zoom button actually did. Have you played with the sliders. Mine are at 100 % and vo backslash worked for me initially to open disclosure triangles. Now right and left arrows do the trick. Like you, I don't interact with the messages table either and have it in standard view, not classic. I wonder if the ability to customise Mac Mail to such a great extent is actually its downfall for VO users? I mean, lots of people seem to be having lots of issues, and not all of us can find a consistent fix? I still can't take things out of the favourites bar despite Ricardo's excellent instructions.They go inside other mail boxes so I've stopped trying for now. And those buttons in between the mailboxes and messages tables are annoying if you like to tab between them. VO j only works if you don't have a preview pane, which I like to have open so I can hear the beginning of a message without having to interact with the text or press enter on it to open it. I wonder if mail a bit too customisable for its own good. Lisette On 1/08/2012, at 7:13 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" wrote: > OK, when you say the zoom button, are you referring to the one up by the > title bar and the close button, etc? > > Right now, the mail window is taking up the entire screen without having to > be in full screen view. I know this, as I have a little bit of vision, > though definitely not enough actually to physically read the screen. If I > hit the zoom button it scales down to about maybe half the screen. Either > way though, it's not having any baring. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:49 AM > Subject: Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain > lion > > > Have you tried pressing the zoom button? > On 1/08/2012, at 2:12 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > >> as I stated in my initial message, yes. I have tried this as well. I have >> tried VO\, right arrow, VO right arrow, the oh space I have literally tried >> everything. Nothing seems to be doing the trick. Even closing and reopening >> mail, restarting voiceover, and even going as far as to restart my entire >> MacBook nothing is working. >> >> thanks, Chris. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> I, too, use ML in standard view. I interact with the table, but I close >>> mail so rarely that this is not a hastle. You mentioned disclosure >>> triangles. Have you tried vo-backslash yet? It seems unnecessary since the >>> right arrow should work, but it may help in the meantime. >>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: >>> >>>> yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow >>>> leopard here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also, >>>> remember, I first am not interacting with the message list table. I simply >>>> VO right arrow over to it, and then use my up and down arrow keys to move >>>> through the list of messages. I do not first interact. I do not look at >>>> each column of the message list table individually like some people do. I >>>> did try interacting however, just to see if it would work. It did not. >>>> there has got to be someway to expand that disclosure triangle, but I just >>>> cannot figure it out. restarting voiceover, did no good, neither did >>>> restarting mail. Furthermore, restarting my entire Mac did absolutely no >>>> good. I am quite sure that there should be a fairly easy solution to this >>>> problem, I just am drawing a mental blank on what that solution would be. >>>> Normally, I am extremely good with this type of stuff, however I must say, >>>> this time, I am completely baffled. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> >>>>> I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a >>>>> restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail? >>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly >>>>>>
Dowloading VLC
Hi folks, I've got the link for the VLC page, but don't know which version to download. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 4 GB ram. Should I download the 32 bit or 64 bit version? I just don't want to mess things up by trying to install the wrong one. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Making VLC the default player
Hi, How do I do this. The Readme file says something about checking the box in the VLC app but I can't find one. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making VLC the default player
Hi Tim, Yes this worked thanks. The Readme file said something to this effect, but your instructions made a lot more sense than their's did. I assume this "get info" thing is common to other apps, so it's something I'll be exploring more. I didn't know about it, so thanks. Lisette On 5/08/2012, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I don't use VLC for a lot but I'm guessing that this dialog may have come up > when you opened VLC for the first time. I did look around a bit in the > Preferences and didn't find it either. Therefore, I'd do this for now: > > • Try locating an audio file that you wish VLC to open. > • Press cmd-i to Get Info on the item. > • Navigate to the Open With area. > • Set it to VLC in the pop-up. > • Press the Change All button. > > There may be a way whereby you remove the plist file for VLC thus when you > start VLC again, it may just ask the question again. The above method should > suffice though. > > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2012-08-04, at 5:55 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi, >> How do I do this. The Readme file says something about checking the box in >> the VLC app but I can't find one. >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Setting activities
Hi folks, I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is that when Safari starts, quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I leave Safari. I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8. I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table. I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked the "additional settings to include" checkbox. I've checked quick nav. And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no difference. Any other suggestions? Thanks for your help. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting activities
Hi Ricardo I thought turning on quick nav was picking the activity. I wondered if I was missing a step but don't understand how to pick the activity I'm sure it's easy if you know how (smile). Lisette On 8/08/2012, at 6:43 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari? You didn't > mention that step in your message. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is >> that when Safari starts, quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I >> leave Safari. >> I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8. >> I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table. >> I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked >> the "additional settings to include" checkbox. >> I've checked quick nav. >> >> And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the >> other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no >> difference. >> Any other suggestions? >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari question please shortcut
Command left arrow. On 10/08/2012, at 6:51 PM, Egbert wrote: > Hi, > in lion i could give a backspace to go a page back in safari. > but that key seems not to work anymore. > i can backspace what i like, but no page back at all smiley. > its kind of frustrating. > Can you tell me what i do wrong and what to do to go a page back in mountain > lion in safari? > thanx Egbert > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
turning on attachments viewing in ML Mail
Hi folks Sorry, I can't find the attachments setting in the view menu in Mail so that I can tell whether a message has an attachment. I'm pressing vo m, right arrowing to view, and looking for columns in that menu. It's not there. I'm doing this from within ML mail. Is there somewhere else I should be looking? Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: turning on attachments viewing in ML Mail
Hi Mark Are you talking about the view menu in ML mail? My first item is message attributes. There is no column item anywhere. How weird is that? Lisette On 12/08/2012, at 3:36 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Actually, I just did it, and thanks for that. In my View menu, Columns > submenu is the first choice after you down-arrow to drop the menu down. > Attachments is the first choice once right-arrowing to enter the submenu. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Technically speaking, How Does Screen Curtain Actually Work?
Hi If the brightness is set to zero, will the camera still work on a skype call? I realise I wouldn't be able to see the other person, but I can't see anyway so that doesn't matter. But I want them to be able to see mee, so wonder if the camera still works when the brightness is set to zero. Lisette On 16/08/2012, at 1:30 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > This is the same on IOS devices. The backlight is still on. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> Not sure on devices but for laptops it just sets the pixels to black, so the >> backlight is still running. If you want to save battery you need to use F1 >> and turn the screen all the way down. All the way down turns the backlight >> off. Likewise using F5 to turn the keyboard backlight all the way down will >> also shut those lights off. >> >> CB >> >> On 8/15/12 11:18 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> Ok, one of my notorious "just wondering" questions. >>> >>> I've heard many discussions about whether screen curtain saves battery life >>> in laptops and the smaller devices. I'm wondering if screen curtain works >>> by modifying information that's already been passed to the display, or >>> whether it bypasses the display altogether. If it's used on an Ipod, for >>> example, does it still use a lot of resources? Does anyone know how it >>> works, technically speaking? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Teresa >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Fleksy
I bought Fleksy at the full price and think it is worth every cent. I can type as fast as a sighted person on my phone. On my iPad, I can have my fingers spread out like qwerty fashion and go really fast. I wish some smaller words would be ordered differently in the suggestions list (like but) but it's always there. I actually now choose to type on the screen instead of using my bluetooth keyboard. If people are having trouble with it, I suggest just trying to relax and not try to find the letters. Just tap away very roughly in the place you think the letter is, and enjoy it. Lisette On 19/08/2012, at 4:36 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I completely agree. This app is fantastic for being able to type in to > the IPhone. I truely don't think the people that see the copy and > paste into something as a deal breaker truely have not given it a > chance. It really does not take more than a few seconds to do that. It > takes longer to complain about the idea than it does to do it! I do > hope Apple does allow it to be built in, but even if they never do I > love this app and it is absolutely worth it. Besides, the copy part > takes less than 2 seconds because you bring up the menu and double tap > copy. It coppies the entire text. Then you go paste wherever. If you > are doing a text message or a new email then you don't even have to do > that much. You just double tap that choice from the menu and then > address your message and send. > > On 8/18/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Yup. >> >> Like I've said to some before, I think $15 is a tough price point regardless >> of how great a keyboard is. And trust me, this is great. But, price aside, >> This is one of the most useful 3rd party apps on my iPhone. There are times >> when dictation just isn't practical. Like when typing confidential >> information or, in a loud or subdued environment. I've found that the time >> it take to copy and paste my text from fleksy is negated because I'm typing >> up to 50% faster with fleksy than the regular IOS virtual keyboard. >> >> JMO. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Aug 18, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Taylor Scott wrote: >> >>> I thought the same things. >>> Actually, having to copy and paste is in my opinion it's only down >>> side, but it isn't the app developers fault, its a limitation of >>> apple's. >>> >>> I don't have dictation, but even if I did, I'd still have this app. >>> It really is fast enough to coppy and paste, and still be faster than >>> trying to write out something on the normal keyboard. >>> I look at it as another option to dictation if you have it. >>> Just leave Fleksy open, and if you need to type something, use the app >>> switcher, write out your message, coppy, switch to the app, and paste. >>> >>> I'm glad I gave it a chance. >>> >>> >>> On 8/18/12, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Tracy, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree, having dictation and Siri, along with the fact that you have to copy the text where you want it make the app less interesting. (And I like the emoticons, too.) :) I hadn't even looked at it when it was $15, but am thinking about it at the lower price. Maybe I'll spend more time practicing before I make a decision. Cheers, Donna On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Traci wrote: > The free version just lets you practice, you can't do anything with the > text. The paid version allows you to copy the text into any app, > tweet, > email, or message. > > I'm looking forward to using the app mostly on my touch, because I have > no > dictation on that device. > > Have you tried the free version? I say give it a whirl. When I first > heard about this app, I thought, nah, it won't speed me up. Turns out, > I > think it really does, besides it is fun to finally be able to type with > my > 2 thumbs flying around the screen. :) > > I will say 2 things. For me personally, I would not have bought the > app > at full price. I have Siri and dictation on my phone, and the app > isn't > built-in yet. I understand why it isn't built-in, but it makes a > difference. Secondly, I miss all my smilies. ;) > > > Traci > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hmm, interesting. What's the difference between the free and paid >> versions? I realize that there may be a learning curve, bus so far it >> doesn't seem to me that this app saves any time at all. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Ricardo Walker >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> you download the free version and the sale price is an in app >>> purchase. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >
Re: Text Detective
Hi Anyone got any hints on using this app? I have an iPhone 4 and just got rubbish results when I scanned something. I know the lighting was ok but obviously the camera on the iPhone 4 is not the best. How close do you hold the camera? I was holding it still and, I think square on. Does it mind if things are upside down? Any hints on using this app greatly appreciated. Lisette On 21/08/2012, at 11:16 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: > Hi Eugenia, > > The tips do say to unlock the orientation, however, since the app goes into > landscape mode, automatically, I think not unlocking it shouldn't set you > back at all. If, for some reason, it does, then you can try to unlock the > orientation and try again. If your scanning experiences are the same, then > you can choose what method to use. > Good luck, and enjoy scanning! > rachel > On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> HiRachel >> I have a question about text detective? It says to use unlock mode when >> doing the scan. What if you forget? I just did that and it sounded like it >> went in to unlock mode automatically. However, when I checked it, it was >> still locked. So, I unlocked it and start over. Do you have to do that? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Bookle question
Hi How do you skip between books in the bookle library sidebar table? I can move through each chapter within the books, but not very easily from book to book. I have two books in there at present, so this is not too arduous. But I imagine if I had ten, it might be a little trying to arrow between chapters of each of those ten books. Also, are you meant to use quick nav for navigating this app? Thanks if anybody has any good tips on using bookle. I really like it for reading Epub. It works extremely well. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Track Pad and iTunes Gesture
I have my track pad set to automatically interact with things. Maybe that would help. On 23/01/2014, at 7:28 am, Brian Fischler wrote: > Seriously. You have to do all that just to get a song to play? If that is the > case, I guess I will just stick with the keyboard. Would have thought it was > as simple as double tapping with one finger, as track pad claims doing so > performs the default action, so not sure why in the world that wouldn’t be > playing the track, as single finger double tapping does absolutely nothing, > not sure if there is a setting I need to change. > On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins > wrote: > >> You will have to doubletap, then interact, then flick right untill you see >> play, then doubletap >> Daniel Hawkins >> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >> >> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >> 4GB DDR3 >> 500GB HDD >> >> Dual Boot: >> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >> >> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Hey Jessica, That is what I would have thought, but with the Magic Track >>> Pad for the iMac tapping twice on the track pad does not play a song, does >>> nothing. >>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Jessica D wrote: >>> with trackpad commander on, it's as simple as a single finger double tap. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Hey all, > > I am trying to use the track pad more, and amazingly I can’t seem to find > any documents on the web for using the track pad and iTunes specifically. > I am using VoiceOver and have played around with the trackpad, and know > there has got to be more, as I can’t figure out how to use the track pad > to play a song. On the keyboard in iTunes you just hit enter and the song > plays. Would have thought there was a simple track pad command to play a > song, but haven’t figured it out. Does anyone have a list of trackpad > commands with iTunes? Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Magic Track Pad and iTunes Gesture
Sorry Brian, , made a mistake. I should have set that I automatically have track pad select items I touch. My mistake. Lisette On 23/01/2014, at 8:01 am, Brian Fischler wrote: > Where is that setting, as I just checked Trackpad commander settings and went > to Track Pad settings and don’t see anything unchecked that should be > checked. Thanks > On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> I have my track pad set to automatically interact with things. Maybe that >> would help. >> On 23/01/2014, at 7:28 am, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Seriously. You have to do all that just to get a song to play? If that is >>> the case, I guess I will just stick with the keyboard. Would have thought >>> it was as simple as double tapping with one finger, as track pad claims >>> doing so performs the default action, so not sure why in the world that >>> wouldn’t be playing the track, as single finger double tapping does >>> absolutely nothing, not sure if there is a setting I need to change. >>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You will have to doubletap, then interact, then flick right untill you see >>>> play, then doubletap >>>> Daniel Hawkins >>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>>> >>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>>> 4GB DDR3 >>>> 500GB HDD >>>> >>>> Dual Boot: >>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Jessica, That is what I would have thought, but with the Magic Track >>>>> Pad for the iMac tapping twice on the track pad does not play a song, >>>>> does nothing. >>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Jessica D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> with trackpad commander on, it's as simple as a single finger double tap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Brian Fischler >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am trying to use the track pad more, and amazingly I can’t seem to >>>>>>> find any documents on the web for using the track pad and iTunes >>>>>>> specifically. I am using VoiceOver and have played around with the >>>>>>> trackpad, and know there has got to be more, as I can’t figure out how >>>>>>> to use the track pad to play a song. On the keyboard in iTunes you just >>>>>>> hit enter and the song plays. Would have thought there was a simple >>>>>>> track pad command to play a song, but haven’t figured it out. Does >>>>>>> anyone have a list of trackpad commands with iTunes? Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubs
Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?
The subject says it all? Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?
No sorr, it's not there for me. Lisette On 18/02/2014, at 9:18 am, Isaac Hebert wrote: > Go to the sources table and then you will find the playlist. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >> The subject says it all? >> Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?
Hi Phil, Thanks for the suggestion. I must be stupid but there's no playlists button once I select music. I see songs, albums, artists, composers, genres and match. There's a "my lists" button but that's not the one either. Any further suggestions? I know it's there somewhere because people talk about it, so it must be me. Thanks and sorry to be so dumb. Lisette , On 18/02/2014, at 11:45 am, Phil Halton wrote: > select "music", then select the playlists radio button. it is located in the > table of playlists. > > On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> The subject says it all? >> Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful. >> Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?
Hi Phil, I did have iTunes set to look like the old iTunes, so I changed it to have the pop up buttons. Still no luck though, but thanks for trying to help. I see the playlists button and the table of playlists, but there's nothing there which says "recently added". It must be a pref I have set somehow so will try to figure it out. Weird though. I've never seen it in my iTunes ever. Very odd, Thanks again. Lisette On 19/02/2014, at 1:16 pm, Phil Halton wrote: > I don't know what to tell you. I'm using the latest iTunes, and I don't have > it set to look like the old iTunes showing the sources table. instead, , I > have the popup button set to "music". then, when I right arrow, I come to a > series of radio buttons labeled radio, songs, artists, albums, genres, and > finally playlists and a few others. > if you have iTunes set to "show sidebar", then the playlists will be in the > sources table, and will not show up as a radio button under music. > Check in the view menu for either "show sidebar" or "hide sidebar". If you > see "hide sidebar", then you have iTunes set to look like the old iTunes, and > you need to go further down in the sources table to playlists. a little > further down and you'll find the recently added list. > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi Phil, >> Thanks for the suggestion. I must be stupid but there's no playlists button >> once I select music. I see songs, albums, artists, composers, genres and >> match. There's a "my lists" button but that's not the one either. >> Any further suggestions? I know it's there somewhere because people talk >> about it, so it must be me. >> Thanks and sorry to be so dumb. >> >> Lisette >> , >> On 18/02/2014, at 11:45 am, Phil Halton wrote: >> >>> select "music", then select the playlists radio button. it is located in >>> the table of playlists. >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The subject says it all? >>>> Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful. >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Lisette >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Recently Added playlist sorted
Thanks phil for your help. Looks like I'd deleted the smart playlist but a bit of googling told me I how to recreate it. I thought it was an accessibility thing but often these things are just normal user errors. All sorted now. Thanks for your patience. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Changing from Gmail to iCloud
Hi , You can also keep the old Apple ID but change the primary email associated with it. This is what I have done. I've kept my old Apple ID but changed the email address. A bit less hassle to change an Apple ID on all devices, and the emails still come through to your new active email address. Lisette On 21/02/2014, at 11:32 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > According to Apple, you are totally able to change the eMail address > associated with your Apple ID. To see details, visit: > > http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5621 > > The main thing to note in here is the conditions up front. One of them being > that it can't be an iCloud account as the iCloud account is actually already > an Apple ID. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > >> I have a couple of questions about this. >> >> 1. I could leave my gmail account open if I do this and use forwarding >> through icloud and keep my gmail address as my Apple ID. If I really wanted >> to eventually get rid of gmail, is there a way to change Apple ID that then >> would put all of my purchases under the icloud apple id or would I always be >> having to sign in with the old gmail id to get those purchases? >> >> 2. I found an article that talks about copying your email to cloud folders >> (probably talks about copying instead of moving so you don't make a mistake >> and then find your mail is gone forever!), then getting what is left in All >> Mail, and it talks about going into gmail and making sure your emails only >> have one label so you don't get duplicates. Is that still relevant advice >> and if so, how do you go about checking on the labels or should one just >> leave it alone and let there be duplicates though it would be better not to >> have them. Here is the article I found at Lifehacker; it is from 2011. >> >> Article from Lifehacker >> You can start fresh with your new iCloud account, but maybe you want access >> to your email archives all in one place. In that case, you'll have to >> migrate your current Gmail inbox over. It isn't the quickest process, but >> we've found that plugging both accounts into an IMAP program--like Apple's >> Mail--makes it fairly straightforward. Just make sure you follow the >> instructions below to the letter. Read through them first, so you understand >> what you're doing, and then go through each step, one by one. If you make a >> mistake, you could severely confuse your iCloud inbox and have to start >> over. Here's what you'll want to do:P >> >> * First, set up both Gmail and iCloud in Mail.app. Setting up Gmail is >> easy, and creating a new iCloud email address is as simple as going into >> System Preferences > iCloud, signing in with your Apple ID, and creating a >> new Mail account. It should show up in Mail when you're done. >> * Let Mail download all your messages. You'll see all your Gmail labels >> set up as folders. Note that iCloud doesn't use labels like Gmail does, so >> you'll need to go into Gmail and make sure all of your messages are assigned >> only one label--otherwise, you'll get duplicate messages in your iCloud >> account. >> * When you're ready to migrate, head into Mail.app and click on Gmail's >> "Sent Messages" folder. Go to Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For > Sent. Repeat >> this process with the Deleted Messages folder as well. >> * Now, you're ready to start moving messages over. Start with the >> inbox. Go to Gmail's inbox in Mail.app and select all the messages within. >> Right-click on them and hit Copy To > Inbox > iCloud. This should copy all >> those messages over to iCloud's inbox. Do not drag and drop the messages; >> that will remove them from Gmail, which we do not want yet. >> * Repeat this process for each of your user-created folders--that is, >> all your Gmail "labels" except All Mail, Important, Starred, and Spam. >> Create a new folder on the iCloud account (by right-clicking on the iCloud >> inbox and hitting "New Mailbox), click on the corresponding folder from your >> Gmail account, select all the messages, and copy them to the new iCloud >> folder. Be sure to copy over all your sent messages, too, even though >> they're a Gmail-created folder! Note that if one of your folders is >> particularly big, you may run into some errors when copying messages. If you >> get an error, delete all the messages in the iCloud folder you're trying to >> fill and try the copy again. After another try or two, it should work. >> * When you're done, you should have a good portion of your messages >> migrated to the iCloud account. The only messages missing will be the ones >> that didn't have a label, and weren't in your inbox or sent messages folder. >> To migrate these, we'll need to delete everything we've migrated so far, and >> move them from the "All Mail" folder into a new "Archive" folder in iCloud. >> So, g
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
Hi Donna, When you import CDS, you can choose to increase the bit rate to a higher quality. I always import at 192 kbps as I can hear the degradation and it bothers me. You can choose all these settings in iTunes prefs under the general tab. You'll have to re import your CDs again but maybe it's worth it for you. I am not a great expert on all this sample and bit rate stuff, but I do know I can hear it when it's too low. By default it's set at 128 kbps I think. Check it out. Lisette On 26/02/2014, at 2:13 pm, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs juxtaposed > with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same speakers, but > played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable degradation in sound > quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just wondering if others have > noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to compensate? > TIA, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: quality of music output when played from an iPod
Hi Donna, Sorry I don't use iTunes match so have no idea on that one. I'm sure others will chime in. Lisette On 26/02/2014, at 2:30 pm, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hey Lisette, > > thanks. You know, I didn't look at the bit rate, and I should have. Much as > I would dislike importing my CDs again, the poor sound quality does bother me > quite a bit. One thing I wonder, though, I have iTunes match, so wouldn't I > be playing a higher quality recording, even if my CD was imported at a lower > bit rate? > thanks so much for the help. > Cheers, > Donna > On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi Donna, >> When you import CDS, you can choose to increase the bit rate to a higher >> quality. I always import at 192 kbps as I can hear the degradation and it >> bothers me. >> You can choose all these settings in iTunes prefs under the general tab. >> You'll have to re import your CDs again but maybe it's worth it for you. >> I am not a great expert on all this sample and bit rate stuff, but I do know >> I can hear it when it's too low. By default it's set at 128 kbps I think. >> Check it out. >> >> Lisette >> >> On 26/02/2014, at 2:13 pm, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Recently I have had occasion to compare the sound of my actual CDs >>> juxtaposed with the imported versions of those same CDs played on the same >>> speakers, but played from my 4th gen touch. There's a noticeable >>> degradation in sound quality when the music is played from my ipod. Just >>> wondering if others have noticed this, and what, if anything you've done to >>> compensate? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Conversation threading with Mavericks 10.9.2 I think has broken
When this occasionally happens to me, restarting Voice Over always fixes it. Lisette On 1/03/2014, at 6:17 am, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all, after updating to Mavericks 10.9.2 and continuing to try out > conversation threading in mail. The next day after and which is still > happening now. No matter hard I try to pen a closed thread I am getting the > bong sound and the thread remains closed. I've even tried using the back > slash key because I've heard that is suppose to be more reliable after > failing with the arrow keys but even this keystroke with the VO keys doesn't > open the thread. > > Can anyone confirm this. Am I the only one? > Mail version is 7.2 > > Daniel > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Hi Teresa, I want to thank you so much for telling us about this built in script. I had no idea having your downloads folder alert you was possible, or had been possible but was broken until now. I now get a dialog saying something has downloaded. I also seem to get one when it initiates the download. Is this normal - to get a dialog notification at the start and end? It's quite nice to know the file has started downloading actually, but I wondered if you are meant to get it twice? It is nice not to have to physically go check the downloads folder anymore. Very cool and easy to set up . When setting it up, I could only get to the folder actions menu with vo-shift-m when pointing to the downloads folder, , not through vo-m. But it worked and that's all I'm bothered about. . Many thanks. Lisette On 1/03/2014, at 7:10 am, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Services preferences are mostly involved with keyboard commands and don't > have anything to do with setting up folder actions. they are just another > choice in the same menu that sometimes got mistakenly invoked. What you want > is Folder actions setup. It doesn't play a sound; it just presents a dialog > when an item is downloaded. The script you want is New folder action alert. > Test it by downloading something and find out if a dialog pops up asking you > if you want to view the newly downloaded item. > > I'd imagine there could be a way to use a sound with this, but I don't know > how to do so. > > HtH, > teresa > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Catherine Turner > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm thoroughly confused. To get a sound to play do we need to do >> something in "folder actions setup" or "services preferences"? Does >> this apply only to the latest osx or earlier versions too? >> >> I have 10.8.4. I was able to find folder actions setup (from the >> shortcut menu VO Shift M, not the main menu VO m). I think I added an >> action or a script or something to the downloads folder. I chose >> "edit script" to see if I could figure if I had chosen the right >> script; and the comments in the script said it would make a >> notification appear when an item was added to the folder. It didn't >> mention anything about sounds. >> >> How can I check I've done what I wanted? I'll find out next time I >> download anything but just wondering if anyone can explain what's the >> role of "service preferences" as opposed to "folder actions" and do I >> need to add a script or an action to a folder? The discussion seems >> to use these phrases interchangeably and I don't know whether they >> really are all the same thing. >> >> Catherine >> >> On 2/27/14, David Taylor wrote: >>> Yes, thanks. That method fixed it and it works beautifully. So, in the >>> normal menu, services is dimmed, but from the context menu it works, weird, >>> but solved and so useful. >>> >>> thanks >>> Dave >>> >>> On 27 Feb 2014, at 22:28, John Panarese wrote: >>> I'm coming in late, but did you try pressing VO-shift-m on the downloads folder? Under services, you should find it there. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:14 PM, David Taylor wrote: > Nope. Done disk repair, set the same thing up in another folder, but when > I go in my downloads folder, it says no services apply! > > On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:39, Apple Boy wrote: > >> TIme for a disk repair me thinks. All is working well here. >> On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:13, David Taylor >> wrote: >> >>> But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this >>> is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same >>> place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! >>> >>> On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor wrote: > So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, > but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can > get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even > restarted finder > > Cheers > Dave > > On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the >> services
Re: Quick way to get the time
Yes option t. On 1/03/2014, at 12:51 pm, Jenine Stanley wrote: > When I do use Windows, I use Window-Eyes and there is a quick command, > insert-t which will give you the current time and date. It just speaks the > time and date and goes away. > > Right now I use the dashboard to get this info plus the current local weather > but am I missing something? Is there a quick command or sequence to just get > the time? > Jenine Stanley > dragonwalke...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using FaceTime Audio
Hi, I have the usual all, recents buttons, and then the table of all my recent face time calls. So whatever this problem is, it's not universal. I'm running 10.92 by the way. Lisette On 3/03/2014, at 7:14 am, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I have this problem too. No, Jim, it's a weirdness with Facetime interface > that causes it only to display a window with just the window controls and no > scroll area or list of contacts. I'm kind of wondering if it has anything to > do with not having a camera, which I don't, and the system is looking for > one? It's a strange issue, though. And the preferences being dimmed doesn't > really help, or I would find a way to tell it not to look for a camera. > > teresa > > Teresa Cochran > batsfly...@me.com > Facebook > > On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > >> Hey Alex! >> In my face tie window I have the contacts button selected and then it gives >> me a scroll area with a table of all my contacts. From there I can make an >> audio of video facetime call. >> Maybe I didn't understand your question. >> Jim >> >> On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> How are you all doing this? My FaceTime app has absolutely nothing in the >>> main window except for the usual three buttons, and the menus only let me >>> select my microphone. Even the Preferences item is dimmed. FaceTime works, >>> though, because I can start calls from my Contacts app. What am i missing? >>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Scott Rumery wrote: >>> I just made the edit to reflect the fact that you can place the call from the FaceTime app. Thanks for the heads up. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > No prob, tell you what though, you were right about deleting the > /Library/System Configuration/Facetime.plist file. Works like a charm > now. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Scott Rumery wrote: > >> Well I guess that I goofed then didn't I? I will have to go and fix my >> post now. Thank you for letting me know about my error. >> >> >> Scott Rumery >> >> Whatever happens keep your sense of humor >> >> On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Jessica wrote: >> >>> it is in the contact info scrol area. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Scott Rumery >>> wrote: >>> Can you enlighten the list as to how to do this? I looked all through the FaceTime interface yesterday and I didn't see anything about making a FaceTime audio call from there. Scott Rumery Whatever happens keep your sense of humor On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > The poster is wrong about one thing. You can too make Facetime audio > only calls inside Facetime. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the > blind built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 > user! > > On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery > wrote: > >> After updating to OS 10.9.2 yesterday the first thing that I wanted >> to try was making an audio only call from my Mac. It took me some >> digging around to figure out how to place the call and then when I >> did figure this out my call kept failing. >> >> After doing several searches on Google I stumbled across an Apple >> Support thread on the failure of FaceTime calls and I was able to >> follow some instructions that someone had posted to get it working >> on my Mac. >> >> Here is a blog post that I wrote about this. I hope that if anyone >> else is having this issue that this will help them to fix it. >> >> http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/facetime-audio-calls-finally-come-mac/ >> Scott Rumery >> >> Whatever happens keep your sense of humor >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.co
Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.
What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know about it but to say it's "unacceptable" is a little strong methinks. On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > A point I myself have made several times here already. Yesterday, Bill > Holton and I verified this issue. My only suggestion is that we flood Apple > with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms that > this is positively unacceptable. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your >> contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you >> touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way of >> getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the message? >> >> Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't >> been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't write >> true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which jonathan >> explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is better than >> writing on the Apex! >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.
I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the edit field. I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. Lisette On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > What do you mean just touching the phone? That bug is unacceptible and Apple > needs to know about it. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in >> the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know >> about it but to say it's "unacceptable" is a little strong methinks. >> >> >> On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> A point I myself have made several times here already. Yesterday, Bill >>> Holton and I verified this issue. My only suggestion is that we flood >>> Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms >>> that this is positively unacceptable. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> >>>> Hello. >>>> >>>> The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your >>>> contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you >>>> touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way >>>> of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the >>>> message? >>>> >>>> Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't >>>> been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't >>>> write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which >>>> jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is >>>> better than writing on the Apex! >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: an annoying little problem
Hi Ray, It does work. I've had somebody on skype listen to me and the Mac through external speaker using the built in mic. By far the easiest way. Hope it works for you. Lisette On 19/03/2014, at 11:25 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > I am very much afraid that approatch just will not work. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: > >> If you aren't trying to record it, couldn't you just use your built in >> microphone as input and your external speakers? It's not recording quality >> obviously, but depending on what you are doing, this set up will allow >> someone to hear voiceover and any other sounds coming from your mac. You >> could probably use whatever microphone you want as long as you are using the >> external speakers for all of your sound. >> >> >> On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Well, yes, in fact, I want the person to be able to hear everything >>> including Voice OVer and the app I'm using. Come to think of it, I just >>> thought of a way. Plug my microphone directly in to a mixer, plug my Mac's >>> output in to another channel on that mixer, and then, make sure Skype's >>> output is redirected to my griphin iMic and I think that should do it but >>> I'd like a neater solution that doesn't involve doing that. Otherwise, >>> there's the chance that Skype could ffeedback on itself. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Matt Dierckens >>> wrote: >>> Hmm, in terms of hearing both you and VO? I haven't found a way to do both, but I can just use system audio with audio hijack and do it that way. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Okay, > > Is there any way to allow a person to whom I am talking on Skype to hear > directly what my Mac is doing? I tried using Sound Flower, Line in, and > system audio but no joy. Any ideas? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You r
deleting addresses from autofill in mail
Hi, Hopefully somebody understands what I mean here. How can I delete recently sent-to email addresses from mail? I don' mean in the contacts, but somewhere in mail there's a place you can see a table of all email addresses the Mac knows about and you can delete them. This stops mail auto filling that particular email address. I can't find it for the life of me now. Any help appreciated. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: deleting addresses from autofill in mail
Ah yes, thanks Alex. So easy to forget if you don't use it every day. Cheers Lisette On 25/03/2014, at 4:58 am, Alex Hall wrote: > It's in the Window menu. Go there and choose the Address Panel. > On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi, >> Hopefully somebody understands what I mean here. >> How can I delete recently sent-to email addresses from mail? I don' mean in >> the contacts, but somewhere in mail there's a place you can see a table of >> all email addresses the Mac knows about and you can delete them. This stops >> mail auto filling that particular email address. I can't find it for the >> life of me now. >> Any help appreciated. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How do you follow someone in Night Owl?
Subject line says it all? I can't find a keyboard shortcut to do this. Surely there's a way to follow someone!! Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time
Hi, I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have speakable items on. I'm on a 2011 macbook pro. Lisette s very quick if I stay within the same app. On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I don't believe it to be a bug. It's within a second for me. I will check > tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently. I do > recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this sort of > lag occurred. May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> hi, all, >> >> I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a >> resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 >> seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the >> same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed >> this ever since Lion first came out and I updated. >> >> thanks, >> Teresa >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Experience Switching to Mac
Another deficit on the Mac is braille translation and music braille translation. I have to continue to use Windows for this. I have also not found a way of importing my old Outlook Express emails into Mac Mail. Supposedly some expensive apps do this, but it's not guaranteed to work so haven't spent the money. Wy Apple doesn't make this work I don't know. That said, I love the Mac and use it exclusively for my personal needs. It's just some professional tasks I still need Windows for. This includes word processing which I, too find clunky on the Mac. But, maybe I need to take a course and learn it properly. Lisette On 7/04/2014, at 2:06 pm, Phil Halton wrote: > Personally, I'm still having a tough time with word processing on the Mac. I > want to like and use pages, but I can't figure out styles and formatting > using pages. I still haven't found anything that compares with MS office and > JAWS for writing and formatting documents. JAWS really does work well with > Word and there's no getting around that. Pages seems clunky by comparison, > but I probably haven't given it a fair chance. Spreadsheeting with numbers is > great, but word processing is still a major deficit on the Mac in my opinion. > > On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> I've been using a Mac here since February of 2008, and have not had any >> reason to switch back to Windows. Like a lot of people on this thread, , I >> got tired of having to pay to keep a JAWS SMA updated, and I also had it >> with their system of ILM authorizations. I too, had to have my activations >> reset a number of times as well. And what got me really interested, and >> wanting to go to the Mac, is the fact that we can do complete reformats, and >> OS installs with VoiceOver. Even with the unattended install scripts that >> are out there for Windows, and that Winstaller app, which has become >> popular now, we still have nothing close to being able to get the OS, and >> do an install with full speech, or even Braille. >> On Apr 6, 2014, at 6:59 PM, BBS wrote: >> >>> Well April, my offr is still on the table. If you like, I can teach you how >>> to use Voiceover. That goes for anyone that wants my help. Email me off >>> list and we'll set something up. >>> >>> >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of April >>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 4:52 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Experience Switching to Mac >>> >>> Hello. About ten months ago, I was declared legally blind. I have been on >>> the search for a full diagnosis and prognosis since. No luck. >>> >>> In December, when my Windows 7 machine became totally unstable, and had >>> been reformatted three times in less than a month, I bought a Mac. I >>> figured, if I had to learn a screen reader, it was best to do so on one >>> where the screen reader came built in. >>> >>> So far, no luck learning how to use the screen reader though. I can turn >>> on and off. That's about it. I have a 40 page list of random commands, >>> and can't figure out what any of the are supposed to do. A dictionary >>> would help. Perhaps the lines above or below that don't make sense are >>> supposed to tell me what they do? >>> >>> I used to be a web designer, and I thought a screen reader should be easy >>> to learn to use. After all, I'm good with with computers. >>> >>> I'm also horrible with foreign languages, and figured braille would be >>> impossible to learn. I started the first contracted braille book I'm >>> reading last night. I started learning braille last November. >>> >>> I still use a Windows 7 computer at night. It takes about 15 minutes to >>> turn on, and every scroll of the screen takes forever. I don't count on it >>> for anything. >>> >>> On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Duck wrote: >>> Hi, >>> As I have said, I am thinking about switching to the Mac and have been >>> trying to gather more information about it. To that end, I have been >>> asking specific questions. I will continue to do that but I would like >>> some general feedback from people who have made the switch from Windows to >>> the Mac. Why did you switch In the first place? Having switched, do you >>> feel that it was the right choice for you? Do any of you regret having >>> switched or have you even gone back to the PC? >>> Thanks, >>> Scott Duck >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op
Re: iSee - eBook on how to use Apple products from a blind perspective
Hi, Coming late to this, but I absolutely agree. It's the worst example of iBook accessibility I've ever seen. Pity, because it's a great book but really very difficult to read with VO. Personally, I would not have released it in this state. Sorry if that sounds blunt, but it's how I feel. Lisette On 6/04/2014, at 6:52 am, Christine Grassman wrote: > It is really frustrating, as well as ironic, that it is not readable on the > iPhone, or on the Mac if you have not upgraded to Mavericks . . . > Christine > > On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> Just stumbled upon this. Apparently it came out from Vision Australia in >> January. >> >> http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-independently/using-technology-and-computers/blog---accessibility-and-assistive-technology-blog/blog/accessibility-blog/2014/01/17/isee-all-you-need-to-know-on-getting-started-with-apple-products-from-a-blind-perspective >> >> CB >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Selecting non-contiguous items
Hi, Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo enter. In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with or without vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear "no row selected". Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing. I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks for any help. Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down with or without vo keys? Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Selecting non-contiguous items
Many thanks. I didn't realise you needed to add the command key to the enter and lift it when arrowing down.Oh Kevin, in Mavericks it's command enter, not command space I believe. But it works now. Thanks to this awesome list. Lisette On 19/04/2014, at 12:12 pm, alia robinson wrote: > do v/o and command and enter. that will work. > On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi, >> Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo >> enter. >> In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I >> press vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one >> (with or without vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear "no >> row selected". Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing. >> I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks >> for any help. >> Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down >> with or without vo keys? >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: window
If your braille display has no keys, you won't be able to do anything but read. You will have to use the Mac keyboard to quit apps. Lisette On 28/04/2014, at 5:54 pm, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: > is it normal to have to have the voice over to say safari has no window, or > skype has no window? because in my display braille i only see the close > botton. i just want to quit the program on my display braille, if i can. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 7.1.1 and some problems
Hi William, Yes I have found the same as you. Sometimes, touching different parts of the screen and trying to find the start date etc manually helps sort things out. But I agree it is a bug and will report it to apple myself. Lisette On 5/05/2014, at 9:50 pm, William Windels wrote: > Hello, > > I thinks since iOS 7.1.1 on my iphone 5, I have some strange problems. > > 1.In the calendar: > I can't always changing starting/ending time (date, hours, minutes). When I > do a swipe right, I go e.g. from starting hours to ending date. > And sometimes, When I do a swipe back , I see the fields that where missing > but sometimes not. > This seems the case in all time/date fields in the native calendar app. > > 2.And a second problem that occur in different native iOS apps: > I swipe to a button, the button is spoken and when I do a double tab on the > screen, I hear the sound like there is no element selected for activation. > > I hope that this problems are clearly explained and perhaps someone can give > suggestions or confirmations of this problems. > > Kind regards, > William > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: expanding andfolders in list view
Hi Dave, So what's the difference between opening and expanding. I mean, if you open something, why does one need to expand it as well? I find some folders in Finder need expanding, and others don't. Folders deeper in the file structure seem to need expanding, whereas ones closer to the surface don't. Do you know why this is? Just curious as I'm still learning so much about the Mac two years on. Lisette On 8/05/2014, at 3:23 am, David Taylor wrote: > Hi, well, command down arrow not only opens a folder, it puts you in a list > of the contents of just that folder. Right arrow expands the folder, so you > can see its contents, but doesn't hide everything else, IE expands the folder. > > Cheers > Dave > > On 7 May 2014, at 16:14, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Command-down arrow in list view will open a folder, command-up arrow will >> close it. >> On May 7, 2014, at 11:08 AM, isaac wrote: >> >>> Hi how do you expand the favorites folder in a new finder window. >>> isaac >>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com >>> Skype gold_wildcat >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
Hi, I've been wondering about this too, so am asking another question. So if my photos are on my Mac in photo stream, do I have to import them into iPhoto in order for them not to be deleted when I delete a photo from my phone's camera roll? I've been copying them to another pictures folder I made just to be safe, but don't want duplicates if I absolutely know they will remain in iPhoto even if I delete them from my phone. Syncing is still something I struggle to fully understand the finer details of. On 15/05/2014, at 3:22 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Videos are not a part of the PhotoStream. Videos need to be transferred over > via the USB connection. When you physically connect the iPhone to your Mac, > those videos should automatically be transferred over to your Mac. You > should not get duplicates either, things are normally checked prior to the > transfer so that iPhoto will note those items already within the iPhoto > Library and not transfer them over to your Mac a second time. After the > transfer is complete, you can find the videos in the Last Import section of > your iPhoto Library. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 14, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera > wrote: > >> thanks >> Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 01:17 AM, Tim Kilburn ha >> scritto: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> No, not really. What happens is that pictures taken on an iPhone are >>> automatically uploaded to the PhotoStream if you have that enabled on the >>> iPhone. Now, thanks, how about those videos, i cant seem to see it,if your >>> Mac uses the same Apple ID and you have photos turned on within the iCloud >>> pane of System Preferences, then you're both accessing the same >>> PhotoStream. So, when you set the iCloud Pref in iPhoto as I suggested in >>> my last post, those pictures that were automatically uploaded to the iCloud >>> PhotoStream will also be automatically downloaded to your Mac when you open >>> iPhoto. They will actually appear in two places. They will be both in the >>> PhotoStream area, which is up in the Cloud, and they will be placed into >>> your Events area and named May 2014 PhotoStream or whatever month it >>> happens to be. Therefore, if your Mom deletes them from her iPhone, they >>> are actually only deleted from her iPhone, they will remain within the >>> PhotoStream. If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be >>> removed from the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too, but, since they are >>> already moved over into the Events area of iPhoto on your Mac, then you >>> will still have a copy of them on your Mac. Think of the PhotoStream as >>> just a Cloud-based area for temporary storage of your photos. >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On May 13, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>> wrote: >>> if my mom would delete it on her iphone would it be deleted on my mac? Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 12:35 AM, Tim Kilburn ha scritto: > Hi, > > If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your > Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac. > To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto > Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar. The "My > PhotoStream" should be checked and the "Automatic Import" should be > checked as well. I don't check the "Automatic Upload" as it fills up my > iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into my > PhotoStream. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 13, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera > wrote: > >> is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod going to my mac, i >> see all my photos on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is >> it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.
Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
Hi Tim, Thanks for this. I did see some of those earlier posts but still don't understand what you mean by the following: >>>> If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be removed from >>>> the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too. How do you delete something from your photo stream on an iPhone. I thought you could only delete them from your camera roll, but does this still leave them in the cloud somewhere? Still slightly confused but hopefully this helps somebody else too. Lisette >>>> On 15/05/2014, at 10:43 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > If you look way down this post, you should see the answers to your questions, > but I'll paste them into here anyway. > >>>>>>> If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your >>>>>>> Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac. >>>>>>> To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto >>>>>>> Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar. The "My >>>>>>> PhotoStream" should be checked and the "Automatic Import" should be >>>>>>> checked as well. I don't check the "Automatic Upload" as it fills up >>>>>>> my iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into >>>>>>> my PhotoStream. > > To answer your question about whether deleting photos from your iPhone > deletes them from your Mac, read on... > >>>>> No, not really. What happens is that pictures taken on an iPhone are >>>>> automatically uploaded to the PhotoStream if you have that enabled on the >>>>> iPhone. Now, if your Mac uses the same Apple ID and you have photos >>>>> turned on within the iCloud pane of System Preferences, then you're both >>>>> accessing the same PhotoStream. So, when you set the iCloud Pref in >>>>> iPhoto as I suggested in my last post, those pictures that were >>>>> automatically uploaded to the iCloud PhotoStream will also be >>>>> automatically downloaded to your Mac when you open iPhoto. They will >>>>> actually appear in two places. They will be both in the PhotoStream >>>>> area, which is up in the Cloud, and they will be placed into your Events >>>>> area and named May 2014 PhotoStream or whatever month it happens to be. >>>>> Therefore, if your Mom deletes them from her iPhone, they are actually >>>>> only deleted from her iPhone, they will remain within the PhotoStream. >>>>> If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be removed from >>>>> the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too, but, since they are already >>>>> moved over into the Events area of iPhoto on your Mac, then you will >>>>> still have a copy of them on your Mac. Think of the PhotoStream as just >>>>> a Cloud-based area for temporary storage of your photos. > > HTH. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 14, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi, >> I've been wondering about this too, so am asking another question. >> So if my photos are on my Mac in photo stream, do I have to import them into >> iPhoto in order for them not to be deleted when I delete a photo from my >> phone's camera roll? I've been copying them to another pictures folder I >> made just to be safe, but don't want duplicates if I absolutely know they >> will remain in iPhoto even if I delete them from my phone. >> Syncing is still something I struggle to fully understand the finer details >> of. >> On 15/05/2014, at 3:22 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Videos are not a part of the PhotoStream. Videos need to be transferred >>> over via the USB connection. When you physically connect the iPhone to >>> your Mac, those videos should automatically be transferred over to your >>> Mac. You should not get duplicates either, things are normally checked >>> prior to the transfer so that iPhoto will note those items already within >>> the iPhoto Library and not transfer them over to your Mac a second time. >>> After the transfer is complete, you can find the videos in the Last Import >>> section of your iPhoto Library. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>
Reminders have gone a bit weird
Hi folks, Has anybody else experienced their reminders being an hour out over the last few days? I have a regular one which is showing correctly to go off at 8 AM, but it actually goes off at 9 AM now. Our clocks haven't changed recently or anything like that. Just curious if anybody else has noticed this. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: notification center
Jean, I think somebody answered your question about the image reports of no faces earlier. It's in the VO Utility / speech / help tags. By setting it to "do nothing", help tags, which is what those image descriptions are, will not be announced. You won't get any other help tags announced either though. I think there is a keystroke to have the help tag spoken on the fly which I can't find right now. I can't answer your question about the notification centre, sorry. Lisette On 25/05/2014, at 6:43 pm, Jean wrote: > Hello All: > > Ever since the last update of Mavericks, the notification center has been > driving me mad. No matter how many times I check do not disturb it keeps > disturbing me with this and that alert that I don't care about. Also, I am > getting these messages that say "bright, crisp, no faces." Is this something > to do with the camera? How can I make this nonsens stop? > Jean > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
