Google Chrome on Mac

[Dezman Jackson]

Good morning,

Hope all are doing well. 
Was just curious if anyone out here uses Chrome on the Mac with VoiceOver on a 
regular bbasis?Personally, I don't find it to be all that er-friendly and tend 
to use Safari. I am also interested in hearing from anyone who is involved in 
web development and if you use the dev tools in Chrome.

Regards,
Dezman 

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Re: Wi-Fi Extenders

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Try reading this article:
https://www.howtogeek.com/290418/what-are-mesh-wi-fi-systems-and-how-do-they-work/


On 3/16/20, 17:59, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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A friend asked about that but the layout of my apartment would make 
running a cable difficult. He will see if he can get his hands on an 
extender so we can test that.

Could you briefly define what a mesh system is? Thanks.

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On 3/16/2020 2:46 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I suppose you could install a mesh system. A Web search would provide 
reviews.
> 
> Alternatively, could you run a cable between the two floors?
> 
> On 3/16/20, 11:40, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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> 
>  My Apple TV is downstairs. The Mac and router are upstairs. I 
cannot
>  relocate any of it. Sometimes when watching content on the ATV, the
>  video will pause.
> 
>  So am looking into extenders. What should I look for when 
shopping?
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RE: A VoiceOver friendly SFTP program

[Tom Moore]

I was not aware that there were problems with Voice Over reading the terminal 
in the most recent release.
I use Vmware on the mac that runs a Linux machine and then I run all my server 
management tasks through this machine so that I can run anything I want in the 
environment that I have the most knowledge on.
In addition all the servers I have are Linux based with different distributions 
so I use my local machine for development with any script or programs I run so 
I am not doing any testing on production hardware.

Tom

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Behalf Of Donald Goosens
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:50 PM
To: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A VoiceOver friendly SFTP program

Can you please give me some instructions as to how this works? I tried it prior 
to Catalina and had no issues. I am having plenty of issues now in Catalina. I 
thought that it was because the ZSH shell so I reinstalled bash. Nothing is 
working@  Perhaps I need to know the right syntax to use!

Thanks,

Donald

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:43 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
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> There is also good old sftp from the terminal that you can use that can be 
> scripted as well.
> 
> Tom
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> If I’m not mistaken, Transmit  does SFTP.
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Re: Braille Display and Bluetooth

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi There.

Press VO 8 and find the braille table.  There there is an option to connect the 
braille display via bluetooth as well as USB.  So when you go to the braille 
option, choose option three  which is the display tab and there you can connect 
your braille display via bluetooth rather than USB.

Kawal.



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>  I have the Focus Blue 5rh generation. It has been paired to the Mac. Now it 
> shows as disconnected in Voiceover Utilities. It connects fine via USB. What 
> do I need to do to reconnect it?
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Re: messages in IOS 13

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Yep Donna, I hate it and I have an I phone 10.  It’s annoying.

Kawal.

> On 16 Mar 2020, at 21:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> So if you tap to open a message thread, that is the only thread you see on 
> the screen?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
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>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have the XR and it hasn’t got the homey.
>> I never have this issue.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I thought you were asking about the iPad as well, as I’ve never met 
>>> this problem on my iPhone before either. But then I have the 8+ so the 
>>> screen layout might be different without the home key. 
>>> 
 On 17/03/2020, at 05:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 No, it's on my iPhone 11.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> 
> Hi!
> Is this on the Ipad?
> If so the messages that’s not in focus  are more to the left of the 
> screen.
> Once a  message is opened its on the right of the screen.
> Hope this makes sense.
> /A
>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 16:30 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> One thing I really hate about Messages in IOS 13 is that even after 
>> selecting and opening a message thread, all your other message threads 
>> are still displayed on the screen. That makes the screen so cluttered 
>> that often I'm unable to find the text field for the thread to which I'm 
>> trying to respond. Does anyone know if there's a setting that can be 
>> adjusted so that when you open a thread, that's the only thread on the 
>> screen? I've looked, but haven't found one.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: messages in IOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Simon and Kawal,

Paul's suggestion to turn off Speak Screen fixed the problem for me. Here is 
the text from his message again:
> Can you see if you have Speak Screen enabled?
> This can be found under Settings, Accessibility, spoken content, Speak screen.
> If it is enabled, disable it and let us know if that helps any. 
Best,
Donna

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:09 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Yep Donna, I hate it and I have an I phone 10.  It’s annoying.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 16 Mar 2020, at 21:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So if you tap to open a message thread, that is the only thread you see on 
>> the screen?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I have the XR and it hasn’t got the homey.
>>> I never have this issue.
>>> /A
>>> 
 16 mars 2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Yeah, I thought you were asking about the iPad as well, as I’ve never met 
 this problem on my iPhone before either. But then I have the 8+ so the 
 screen layout might be different without the home key. 
 
> On 17/03/2020, at 05:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> No, it's on my iPhone 11.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is this on the Ipad?
>> If so the messages that’s not in focus  are more to the left of the 
>> screen.
>> Once a  message is opened its on the right of the screen.
>> Hope this makes sense.
>> /A
>>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 16:30 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> One thing I really hate about Messages in IOS 13 is that even after 
>>> selecting and opening a message thread, all your other message threads 
>>> are still displayed on the screen. That makes the screen so cluttered 
>>> that often I'm unable to find the text field for the thread to which 
>>> I'm trying to respond. Does anyone know if there's a setting that can 
>>> be adjusted so that when you open a thread, that's the only thread on 
>>> the screen? I've looked, but haven't found one.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: silencing or muting Mac VoiceOver when a specific app is running

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Use an Activity to accomplish this.  Go into VO Utility, press cmd-0 to bring 
focus to the Activities panel, press Add Activity and give it a name like 
Silence.  You'll need to expand the Additional Settings to Include item, check 
the box for Voice, then press Set Voice Options.  You can check the box to mute 
VO in there.  Press the close button and navigate to the Apps pop-up menu and 
select the app you wish this activity applied to.

That should do it.

Later...


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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 16, 2020, at 17:02, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hello all, how do I have VoiceOver automatically mute while a specific app is 
loaded and in focus?

Thanks.

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Battery status on the Ipad mini.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
How does sighted see when the battery is charging on the Ipad?
FOr us  VoiceOver announces charging after the battery status.
And when its finished charging it sais on ac power.
My iPad mini shows charging all the time  even though its on 100%.
So i am not sure what that means?
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Re: Wi-Fi Extenders

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thanks, that should be interesting reading.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/17/2020 4:41 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try reading this article:
https://www.howtogeek.com/290418/what-are-mesh-wi-fi-systems-and-how-do-they-work/


On 3/16/20, 17:59, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

 A friend asked about that but the layout of my apartment would make
 running a cable difficult. He will see if he can get his hands on an
 extender so we can test that.

 Could you briefly define what a mesh system is? Thanks.

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 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
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 >  So am looking into extenders. What should I look for when 
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Re: Braille Display and Bluetooth

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   Ended u removing then adding again.

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On 3/17/2020 7:08 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi There.

Press VO 8 and find the braille table.  There there is an option to connect the 
braille display via bluetooth as well as USB.  So when you go to the braille 
option, choose option three  which is the display tab and there you can connect 
your braille display via bluetooth rather than USB.

Kawal.




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  I have the Focus Blue 5rh generation. It has been paired to the Mac. Now it 
shows as disconnected in Voiceover Utilities. It connects fine via USB. What do 
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RE: Wi-Fi Extenders

[pdevasto0219]

I'm a little late to the thread, sorry. However, I wanted to share that I got a 
Netgear Wi-Fi extender just about two years ago now, and it's performed 
flawlessly  in my single-level 2,150 square foot home, even outside in my back 
yard. It sells for around $20 US currently. It's very easy to set up: You first 
plug it in to an outlet close to your router so you can pair it, then you can 
move it to somewhere else where you currently have connectivity issues. It uses 
your router's network name and adds ext to it, but you can call it anything you 
like. Here's the info:

NETGEAR WiFi Range Extender EX2700 - Coverage up to 600 sq.ft. and 10 devices 
with N300 Wireless Signal Booster & Repeater
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L0YLRUW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I assume this is available outside the US, if anyone would want it. Hope this 
helps.

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> Try reading this article:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/290418/what-are-mesh-wi-fi-systems-and-how-do-they-work/
> 
> 
> On 3/16/20, 17:59, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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>  A friend asked about that but the layout of my apartment would make
>  running a cable difficult. He will see if he can get his hands on an
>  extender so we can test that.
> 
>  Could you briefly define what a mesh system is? Thanks.
> 
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Re: backblaze and voiceover

[Eric Caron]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the explanation and your directions on how you dragged the 
fish icon into the table. 

I’ll remember to try that going forward.  In a past operating system on 
my Mac I could not get the steps to work, but I was lazy this time and didn’t 
even try.  I need to remember that things do change and usually improve with 
time.  

Generally CCC, Carbon Copy cloner has worked well for me and I find it easy to 
navigate.  It has also saved me big time at least once when  I needed to 
restore my laptop disk from the clone.

Nice to know that at lease two good options are out there.  But, Hopefully 
Super Duper doesn’t also require the security table challenge. 

Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:11 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Eric,
> 
> The problem with CCC is not theirs but Apple’s requirement to grant full 
> access to the disk.  I’ve managed to overcome it by actually using drag and 
> drop of the image with Voiceover.  It worked although I can’t remember 
> whether it worked immediately.  once Vo was focused on the image to drag, I 
> routed mouse to voiceover cursor, performed mouse down with 
> vo+command+shift+spacebar, then moved to the system preferences security  
> interacted with the table of apps allowed full access, then routed the mouse 
> to voiceover again and then released the Mouse with the same shortcut key 
> combo as above.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Mar 2020, at 02:44, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert and others. 
>> 
>>  I just found I still had this thread in my messages so I wanted to add 
>> that I don’t have experience with Super Duper but if I were starting over 
>> I’d use that app over Carbon Copy Cloner.  The reason is the VO support 
>> Robert mentions.
>> 
>>  I’ve had good luck with CCC but the developer doesn’t seem to go out of 
>> his way to make sure the app is fully accessible.  Recent experience after 
>> upgrading my Mac was that I had to set up CCC again to have full access to 
>> my hard drive.  This required dragging a fish icon to the table in the 
>> security settings.
>> 
>>  I remember years ago writing to the developer asking for another 
>> solution.  He sent me a reply but it was not workable.  So, in the end I 
>> used sighted help.
>> 
>> It sounds like Super Duper would not have this issue and likely be easier to 
>> use.
>> 
>> I will say the CCC clone worked perfectly when I needed it, so having a 
>> bootable clone in your back up solution is something I’d recommend.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jean,
>>> 
>>> I have been using Back Blaze for the last several years.
>>> 
>>> I have found it to be accessible enough for my needs. I should say that it 
>>> is the third part of my backup approach. I also use Apple’s time machine 
>>> and each week I make a clone of my computer using SuperDuper. BackBlaze is 
>>> the off sight backup portion just in case something happens to both my 
>>> SuperDuper and time machine backups.
>>> 
>>> I have never tried to restore from Back Blaze other than to login and grab 
>>> a file or two that I needed. I was able to navigate around in my backup 
>>> with VoiceOver well enough to locate the files that I wanted. Also, for a 
>>> reasonable price, Back Blaze will send you a copy of your backup on a hard 
>>> drive. I have found them to be very reliable and reasonably priced. Again, 
>>> I choose not to use them as my only backup but as a part of the whole 
>>> backup strategy. If you want to start cloning your Mac, I recommend 
>>> SuperDuper. It is totally accessible and the developer is very committed to 
>>> VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:25 PM, jean parker  wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 
 I am considering purchasing Backblaze and have some questions. I am a bit 
 hesitant because they do not publish a customer support phone number and 
 they don't say anything about accessibility on their web site. Thus, I 
 would like to hear from the group about your experiences as follows:
 
 1. I did the preliminary backup as part of the 15 day free trial. I found 
 the interface to select drives tricky to use so I am not sure exactly what 
 is selected for backup and what is excluded.
 
 2. Naturally, the ultimate objective of having such a service is to be 
 able to restore files in case of a problem. I went to the view and restore 
 files interface but was also not able to find things like documents, 
 desktop, downloads etc. How does this work and is the restore process 
 accessible? If so, how is it done with voiceover?
 
 3. What is people's experience with their customer support? Are they 
 responsive? Do they have enough knowledge to be conversant about how to 
 perform functions using voiceover?
 
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Re: messages in IOS 13

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes on my Phone that’s what i’ve seen.
/A

> 16 mars 2020 kl. 22:39 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> So if you tap to open a message thread, that is the only thread you see on 
> the screen?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have the XR and it hasn’t got the homey.
>> I never have this issue.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I thought you were asking about the iPad as well, as I’ve never met 
>>> this problem on my iPhone before either. But then I have the 8+ so the 
>>> screen layout might be different without the home key. 
>>> 
 On 17/03/2020, at 05:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 No, it's on my iPhone 11.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> 
> Hi!
> Is this on the Ipad?
> If so the messages that’s not in focus  are more to the left of the 
> screen.
> Once a  message is opened its on the right of the screen.
> Hope this makes sense.
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>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 16:30 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> One thing I really hate about Messages in IOS 13 is that even after 
>> selecting and opening a message thread, all your other message threads 
>> are still displayed on the screen. That makes the screen so cluttered 
>> that often I'm unable to find the text field for the thread to which I'm 
>> trying to respond. Does anyone know if there's a setting that can be 
>> adjusted so that when you open a thread, that's the only thread on the 
>> screen? I've looked, but haven't found one.
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Re: Wi-Fi Extenders

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   Thanks for this, good price. Does the extender need to match the 
router? I browsed some on Amazon and one was AC1900 which is my router 
but it was $100.


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I'm a little late to the thread, sorry. However, I wanted to share that I got a 
Netgear Wi-Fi extender just about two years ago now, and it's performed 
flawlessly  in my single-level 2,150 square foot home, even outside in my back 
yard. It sells for around $20 US currently. It's very easy to set up: You first 
plug it in to an outlet close to your router so you can pair it, then you can 
move it to somewhere else where you currently have connectivity issues. It uses 
your router's network name and adds ext to it, but you can call it anything you 
like. Here's the info:

NETGEAR WiFi Range Extender EX2700 - Coverage up to 600 sq.ft. and 10 devices with 
N300 Wireless Signal Booster & Repeater
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L0YLRUW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I assume this is available outside the US, if anyone would want it. Hope this 
helps.

Pete De Vasto

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Subject: Re: Wi-Fi Extenders

 Thanks, that should be interesting reading.

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On 3/17/2020 4:41 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try reading this article:
https://www.howtogeek.com/290418/what-are-mesh-wi-fi-systems-and-how-do-they-work/


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  A friend asked about that but the layout of my apartment would make
  running a cable difficult. He will see if he can get his hands on an
  extender so we can test that.

  Could you briefly define what a mesh system is? Thanks.

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  > I suppose you could install a mesh system. A Web search would provide 
reviews.
  >
  > Alternatively, could you run a cable between the two floors?
  >
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  >  video will pause.
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  >  So am looking into extenders. What should I look for when 
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Re: Wi-Fi Extenders

[Pete De Vasto]

My router is from Xfinity, has nothing to do with NetGear at all. I wouldn’t 
think it matters.

Pete

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 11:45 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Thanks for this, good price. Does the extender need to match the router? I 
> browsed some on Amazon and one was AC1900 which is my router but it was $100.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/17/2020 8:27 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I'm a little late to the thread, sorry. However, I wanted to share that I 
>> got a Netgear Wi-Fi extender just about two years ago now, and it's 
>> performed flawlessly  in my single-level 2,150 square foot home, even 
>> outside in my back yard. It sells for around $20 US currently. It's very 
>> easy to set up: You first plug it in to an outlet close to your router so 
>> you can pair it, then you can move it to somewhere else where you currently 
>> have connectivity issues. It uses your router's network name and adds ext to 
>> it, but you can call it anything you like. Here's the info:
>> NETGEAR WiFi Range Extender EX2700 - Coverage up to 600 sq.ft. and 10 
>> devices with N300 Wireless Signal Booster & Repeater
>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L0YLRUW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> I assume this is available outside the US, if anyone would want it. Hope 
>> this helps.
>> Pete De Vasto
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:03 AM
>> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Wi-Fi Extenders
>> Thanks, that should be interesting reading.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 3/17/2020 4:41 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Try reading this article:
>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/290418/what-are-mesh-wi-fi-systems-and-how-do-they-work/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/16/20, 17:59, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  A friend asked about that but the layout of my apartment would make
>>>  running a cable difficult. He will see if he can get his hands on an
>>>  extender so we can test that.
>>> 
>>>  Could you briefly define what a mesh system is? Thanks.
>>> 
>>>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>  Many believe that we have been visited
>>>  in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>  On 3/16/2020 2:46 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>  > I suppose you could install a mesh system. A Web search would 
>>> provide reviews.
>>>  >
>>>  > Alternatively, could you run a cable between the two floors?
>>>  >
>>>  > On 3/16/20, 11:40, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  >  My Apple TV is downstairs. The Mac and router are upstairs. 
>>> I cannot
>>>  >  relocate any of it. Sometimes when watching content on the ATV, 
>>> the
>>>  >  video will pause.
>>>  >
>>>  >  So am looking into extenders. What should I look for when 
>>> shopping?
>>>  >
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Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as it 
would be very helpful to current blind college students.  

I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
learning fast how to run on line teaching. 

Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls be 
sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.

Here is the part of the post for college students.

Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
blind person with tasks. 

I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
blind college students for the rest of the semester. 

If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
teachers as well! 

One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.

They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.

Eric Caron 

Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira

We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
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inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a student 
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Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
COUNTRIES AS WELL?

> On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as 
> it would be very helpful to current blind college students.  
> 
>   I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
> learning fast how to run on line teaching. 
> 
> Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls 
> be sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.
> 
> Here is the part of the post for college students.
> 
> Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
> blind person with tasks. 
> 
>   I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
> blind college students for the rest of the semester. 
> 
> If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
> new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
> teachers as well! 
> 
> One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
> blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.
> 
> They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
> 
> We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
> learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
> inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
> remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a 
> student who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
> supp...@aira.io  for more information 
> 
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Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Brad Snyder]

Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
account and you are good to go.
You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.

Brad
wb...@swbell.net 


On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
COUNTRIES AS WELL?

> On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as 
> it would be very helpful to current blind college students.  
> 
>   I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
> learning fast how to run on line teaching. 
> 
> Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls 
> be sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.
> 
> Here is the part of the post for college students.
> 
> Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
> blind person with tasks. 
> 
>   I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
> blind college students for the rest of the semester. 
> 
> If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
> new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
> teachers as well! 
> 
> One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
> blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.
> 
> They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
> 
> We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
> learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
> inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
> remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a 
> student who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
> supp...@aira.io  for more information 
> 
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Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thank you, but I don’t think I would use it. I was just curious.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

> On 18/03/2020, at 14:40, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 

Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
account and you are good to go.
You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.

Brad
wb...@swbell.net


On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
COUNTRIES AS WELL?

> On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as 
> it would be very helpful to current blind college students.  
> 
>   I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
> learning fast how to run on line teaching. 
> 
> Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls 
> be sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.
> 
> Here is the part of the post for college students.
> 
> Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
> blind person with tasks. 
> 
>   I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
> blind college students for the rest of the semester. 
> 
> If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
> new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
> teachers as well! 
> 
> One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
> blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.
> 
> They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
> 
> We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
> learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
> inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
> remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a 
> student who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
> supp...@aira.io for more information 
> 
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Corona Virus Alerts: How to get news updates on your phone right now, cNet

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am posting the following article only because Apple products are
discussed.

Be Well,

Mark

Corona virus  alerts: How to get news updates on your phone right now

Don't miss another important update about how COVID-19 is affecting your
country and where you live.
March 17, 2020 

Sites like Twitter can help keep you updated on the latest corona virus
news.
It's all over the news, social media and nearly everywhere you look -- the
novel corona virus , now a pandemic, has been changing the way employees
work and emptying store shelves. And if you don't have time to follow the
news, you're in luck because you can have news alerts sent to your phone.
You can use sources such as Twitter, Google Alerts and your favorite news
sites to receive updates and notifications about where the corona virus  is
and what you can do to help keep yourself and your community safe. You can
also sign up for text alerts to receive information about how many cases are
in your area and what's closing down, like schools and churches.
Read on to learn how to set up for alerts about corona virus developments.

Twitter can send you notifications from corona virus  sources
Twitter is a good source for learning what's going on with the corona virus
-- and it has an option to let you turn on crisis and emergency alerts. To
enable this, go to your notifications settings and select Notifications >
SMS Notifications > Crisis and emergency alerts.
You can also get notifications about corona virus  from Twitter accounts,
but you'll want to make sure you trust the news source -- for example, The
Associated Press, Reuters, BNO Newsroom, CNN and other domestic news
organizations. To do so, follow the account, then tap the bell icon (located
beside the Following button) and select All Tweets. Now you'll be notified
when the account tweets something new.

Google Alerts
When something new about the corona virus  shows up in Google Search, you
can be among the first to know about it. To get started, go to Google Alerts
and enter the topic you want to follow into the search box at the top.
Change the settings to your preferences, like how often you want to see
notifications, and then click Create Alert. You can always go back and
adjust your settings later.

Apple Alerts
If you've got an iPhone or Apple Watch, you can receive emergency, public
safety and government alerts on your device. Some information you may
receive could be alerts issued by your country or region's government, or
alerts involving imminent threats to safety or life.
To turn on the notifications, go to Settings > Notifications, then scroll
all the way to the bottom and toggle on Emergency Alerts and Public Safety
Alerts.

News apps
Most, if not all, news apps will have a newsletter you can sign up for
(in-app and online) that sends the most pressing information to your inbox.
For example, the CNET Now newsletter sends one email daily that includes the
most important news of the day -- much of which is corona virus -related
right now. The CNET app (iPhone, Android) and CNET on Apple News also send
regular news alerts, including stories about the corona virus .
Most news apps will also send you notifications (with your permission) about
breaking news alerts. After you download the apps, they will ask for your
permission to send notifications and you can choose to receive alerts about
breaking news only. You can update at any time in the app's settings.

Get alerts for the city you live in
Depending on where you live, you may be able to sign up for text alerts from
the city. For example, San Francisco lets its residents sign up for alerts
by texting COVID19SF to 888-777. If your city doesn't have a program like
this set up yet, you may be able to sign up for statewide alerts. You can
usually find these by going to [state].gov -- for example, Kentucky.gov.

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Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Brad Snyder]

OK, its your loss if you choose not to check it out.

- Brad -


On Mar 17, 2020, at 21:00, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Thank you, but I don’t think I would use it. I was just curious.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

> On 18/03/2020, at 14:40, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 

Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
account and you are good to go.
You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.

Brad
wb...@swbell.net 


On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
COUNTRIES AS WELL?

> On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as 
> it would be very helpful to current blind college students.  
> 
>   I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
> learning fast how to run on line teaching. 
> 
> Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls 
> be sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.
> 
> Here is the part of the post for college students.
> 
> Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
> blind person with tasks. 
> 
>   I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
> blind college students for the rest of the semester. 
> 
> If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
> new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
> teachers as well! 
> 
> One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
> blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.
> 
> They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
> 
> We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
> learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
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Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

[Eric Caron]

Hi Petrus, and others,

I was skeptical when it first came out.  I used Bemyeyes and 
bespectacle, I think it was called that.  And, those apps were free. But, I got 
a free offer to try 30 minutes and I was hooked.  I kept it like a emergency 
helper.  But, now with the free 5 minute calls I rarely use the 30 minutes a 
month.  And, When I’m stuck needing a pair of eyes it is great to have a 
trained  person with skills and tools available to help. 

I’d recommend to try it out and keep the app on the phone.  If you are lucky 
enough to be in a country where it works it could help out in a pinch. 

Example, I was building a garden shed and my talking tape measure fell 
out of my pocket.  I needed it to keep working.  I used Aira and in a moment I 
had it back.  It had bounced under the leaves but the agent still spotted it.  
Another time I got disoriented in my yard.  I called and they got me turned 
back around so I could find my way back.  

They now help more with crossing streets.  In the beginning they didn’t 
do that. 

And in the US more and more locations have free service, air ports, busses, sub 
ways, college campuses, drug stores, department stores and so on.

I once used free access at a drug store to get a tour.  I had no idea 
they had such a variety of things there!  

They can now even share your Mac computer screen and fill in captures.  I had 
difficulty getting text to enter in a form field last week and they just put 
the focus in the spot and then it worked.


So, even if you just use the free 5 minute calls now and then it is nice to 
have in your tool box.

In other countries bemyeyes can do some of the functionality.  But, Aira has 
agents waiting.  They are trained and have a dashboard ready to use to assist.  
It has things like maps of the airports you might be at. The ability to take a 
picture and magnify it to help you know what is around you.  They can even 
google things or help on a shopping quest.  Some of the agents are not only 
well trained but have background in Orientation and mobility and other useful 
areas.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> OK, its your loss if you choose not to check it out.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 21:00, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Thank you, but I don’t think I would use it. I was just curious.
> 
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>> On 18/03/2020, at 14:40, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
> 
> Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
> account and you are good to go.
> You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.
> 
> Brad
> wb...@swbell.net 
> 
> 
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
> COUNTRIES AS WELL?
> 
>> On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as 
>> it would be very helpful to current blind college students.  
>> 
>>  I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
>> learning fast how to run on line teaching. 
>> 
>> Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls 
>> be sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.
>> 
>> Here is the part of the post for college students.
>> 
>> Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
>> blind person with tasks. 
>> 
>>  I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
>> blind college students for the rest of the semester. 
>> 
>> If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
>> new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to 
>> blind teachers as well! 
>> 
>> One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
>> blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.
>> 
>> They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
>> 
>> We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
>> learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
>> inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for 
>> the remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a 
>> student who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please 
>> email supp...@aira.io  for more information 
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Re: Broadcasting apps for the Mac

[gerrycook]

Hi once again if you want to go the IOS route backpack studio is quite 
accessible which could be another option. 

> On 17 Mar 2020, at 2:16 pm, gerrycook  wrote:
> 
> Hi i’ve heard that dj pro 2 has voiceover improvements in the latest update 
> so that may be worth a look! 
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2020, at 8:49 am, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I do my broadcasts I switch over to windows and use SPL. It's honestly 
>> the best broadcasting package.
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 17:17, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd like to know the answer to this too please.
>>> 
 On Mar 16, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Joe Quinn >>> > wrote:
 
 Again subject states it all, are there any accessible broadcasting apps 
 similar to station playlist for windows for Mac? I know radiologic is 
 available, but the developer himself said that it’s not as accessible with 
 voiceover as it could be, through no fault of his own because he uses 
 custom list boxes which aren’t accessible because of the app framework 
 that he is using to develop the app.
 
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