RE: Airplay confusion.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Ok, so the one I have is a newer one as it does I believe 802.11N but still 
can’t be updated with firmware and is really not much use other than a range 
extender in the back of the house.

It’s ok, it’s only my unused GYM in that area.

The older ones I’ve only seen once and that was in a work colleagues office.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 2:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.

Simon,

I guess that there's old and older then.  The older ones looked like the 
charging brick for an Apple laptop.  You could plug it directly into the wall, 
or put the extension cable on it and place it anywhere.  The newer, or old, 
ones, looked more like an Apple TV 2 or 3 model.  The older ones did not have 
as modern of WiFi connectivity options, slower processors, and could not be 
upgraded as far from a software prospective.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2019, at 00:53, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Just for my own mind,
You say old / newer,
I thought apple stopped producing airport express / extreme devices a couple of 
years ago?

What is the older device,
I have an express  which I believe was the last model produced but would love 
to update if they had a newer version.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2019 2:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.

Hi,

It's possible that it's the fault of the older Airport Express as you've 
suggested.  The processor in the older one is slower, it does not support all 
the same features as the newer models, and usually only updates to a version of 
software that does not support all the newer features.  These, of course, are 
just educated guesses as I don't have an older Express around to confirm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2019, at 05:46, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
I have 2 airport express devices in my Apartment.
One older and one of the newer ones.
When i get for example a call or want to ask siri about something and i am 
connected to the older airport express the music interupts as it used to do 
when connected to bouetooth.
But when i am connected to the newer airport express and do the same the music 
continues to play like nothing has happend.
Also the newer express device is called something like multirout or something 
like that.
Is this because the newer airport express has support for airplay 2?
If so then i have to try to find  a refurbished one for my kitchen.
/A

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RE: Amazon prime video app for iOS

[Simon Fogarty]

Can anyone tell me if there is a version of the amazon prime  app for the apple 
tv as well?

I've been given this as part of a new fiber package for my internet connection,
 Can't say I want it or really need it but oh well,
Unemployed in 3 weeks so I might have some time to kill while getting back into 
exercise.

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 6:30 AM
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Subject: Amazon prime video app for iOS

This app seems to be very accessible on the iPhone, but I’m wondering, does it 
work as well on an iPad? At least with an iPad I might actually be able to see 
something with the larger screen. Just wondering what the best viewing 
experience for Amazon Prime Video might be? Again how is the app on iOS for 
iPad?

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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

And what is the price on an iPhone 7?
Not that I need another phone yet but I do need a iPod to put audio books on 
rather than putting them on my phone.

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 1:50 PM
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Subject: New iPod touch announced

I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the update of 
the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the same one that is in 
an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old going on three, just like my 
iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant changes that I am aware of, except the 
space. The cheapest one has 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. 
Earlier this year, they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That 
is the current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They should have 
given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really disappointed. I was 
looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod touch, but now that I see that it 
has the same processor as my iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.


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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey Donna,

I was just thinking that same thing.

If the 256 gig iPod is at the same price here that the 128's were,
I might just get an older phone to use.

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From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced

I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since I got my 
iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, I'll just start 
using my iPhone X as my iPod.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the update 
> of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the same one that is 
> in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old going on three, just like 
> my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant changes that I am aware of, except the 
> space. The cheapest one has 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. 
> Earlier this year, they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That 
> is the current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
> reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They should 
> have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really disappointed. I 
> was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod touch, but now that I see 
> that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

Does the new iPod have the home button still or have they gotten rid of it.

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 3:02 PM
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Oh yeah they did, if I was going to spend 400, I would be better off just 
buying the IPad.

On 5/28/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Donna,
> I’m in the same position that you are. I have an iPhone 7 Plus which 
> is acting as an iPod, since I now have a 10 R. I won’t be upgrading next year.
> But the following year I suppose, if I do upgrade, myXr will become my 
> new iPod. I really think they missed the boat here.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 28, 2019, at 7:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since I 
>> got my iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, 
>> I'll just start using my iPhone X as my iPod.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>
>>
>>> On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the 
>>> update of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the 
>>> same one that is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old 
>>> going on three, just like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant 
>>> changes that I am aware of, except the space. The cheapest one has 
>>> 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. Earlier this year, 
>>> they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That is the 
>>> current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
>>> reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They 
>>> should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
>>> disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod 
>>> touch, but now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 
>>> Plus, forget it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: selecting files with shift+home on the mac?

[Simon Fogarty]

You should be able to use,
Shift, ctrl hold down the fn key and hit left arrow if your on a mac book this 
should highlight everything from your location to the top of your list or Home.

If your on an iMac with a full sized keyboard,

Hold down shift,ctrl and hit the home key on your keyboard,
This is the key second key up from the Up arrow key in the upside down T of 
arrows.
 The first key or one in the middle is the End key, above this is home.From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Subject: selecting files with shift+home on the mac?

Hi folks.
I’m in a folder of files and I’m about 10 files down.
Is there a way to select from where you are, to the first file?
I’d do this on windows with shift+ home, then do what ever with said files.

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RE: Update on the Mac OS Feature suggestion

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey Ben, that's great to hear,
We'll have to wait and see where it goes.

 It actually makes me think that may be we should start doing this for the iPod 
touch and see where it goes.
And from what I've read on it so far, they really haven't done a thing.

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Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2019 11:20 AM
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Subject: Update on the Mac OS Feature suggestion

Thought I'd let you know that Apple has just been in touch to say thank you 
etc. and that the ideas have been passed on to the boffins.
So, do feel free to email them in if you haven't already. With hope they'll be 
pushed higher up their wish list and implemented in the not too distant.
Ben

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Re: Amazon prime video app for iOS

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,


Yes there is. The last time I used it, it had some accessibility issues, but it 
is usable.

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 2:43 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me if there is a version of the amazon prime  app for the 
> apple tv as well?
> 
> I've been given this as part of a new fiber package for my internet 
> connection,
> Can't say I want it or really need it but oh well,
> Unemployed in 3 weeks so I might have some time to kill while getting back 
> into exercise.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 6:30 AM
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> Subject: Amazon prime video app for iOS
> 
> This app seems to be very accessible on the iPhone, but I’m wondering, does 
> it work as well on an iPad? At least with an iPad I might actually be able to 
> see something with the larger screen. Just wondering what the best viewing 
> experience for Amazon Prime Video might be? Again how is the app on iOS for 
> iPad?
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Re: New iPod touch announced

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Simon,

It works really well.  And if you own your phone outright when you upgrade, you 
have a constant upgrade path for your iPod.  I've been very happy doing it this 
way.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 30, 2019, at 3:50 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hey Donna,
> 
> I was just thinking that same thing.
> 
> If the 256 gig iPod is at the same price here that the 128's were,
> I might just get an older phone to use.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
> 
> I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since I got my 
> iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, I'll just start 
> using my iPhone X as my iPod.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the update 
>> of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the same one that 
>> is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old going on three, just 
>> like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant changes that I am aware of, 
>> except the space. The cheapest one has 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 
>> for 400. Earlier this year, they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 
>> chip. That is the current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, 
>> but my gut reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. 
>> They should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
>> disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod touch, but 
>> now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Airplay confusion.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Simon,

Yeah, I just use mine as extenders and AirPlay devices.  I have a Bose sound 
bar at the back of the house by the garden door.  I can then stream iTunes to 
that sound bar, open the window and have music out in the back yard while 
sitting outside having a cool one.  I can also just pull out my iPhone and use 
the iTunes Remote app to switch songs without even getting out of my recliner.  
Life's rough eh?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)


 Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 30, 2019, at 02:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
Ok, so the one I have is a newer one as it does I believe 802.11N but still 
can’t be updated with firmware and is really not much use other than a range 
extender in the back of the house.
 
It’s ok, it’s only my unused GYM in that area.
 
The older ones I’ve only seen once and that was in a work colleagues office.
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 2:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.
 
Simon,
 
I guess that there's old and older then.  The older ones looked like the 
charging brick for an Apple laptop.  You could plug it directly into the wall, 
or put the extension cable on it and place it anywhere.  The newer, or old, 
ones, looked more like an Apple TV 2 or 3 model.  The older ones did not have 
as modern of WiFi connectivity options, slower processors, and could not be 
upgraded as far from a software prospective.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 28, 2019, at 00:53, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Tim,
 
Just for my own mind,
You say old / newer,
I thought apple stopped producing airport express / extreme devices a couple of 
years ago?
 
What is the older device,
I have an express  which I believe was the last model produced but would love 
to update if they had a newer version.
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2019 2:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.
 
Hi,
 
It's possible that it's the fault of the older Airport Express as you've 
suggested.  The processor in the older one is slower, it does not support all 
the same features as the newer models, and usually only updates to a version of 
software that does not support all the newer features.  These, of course, are 
just educated guesses as I don't have an older Express around to confirm.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 23, 2019, at 05:46, Anders Holmberg mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
 
Hi!
I have 2 airport express devices in my Apartment.
One older and one of the newer ones.
When i get for example a call or want to ask siri about something and i am 
connected to the older airport express the music interupts as it used to do 
when connected to bouetooth.
But when i am connected to the newer airport express and do the same the music 
continues to play like nothing has happend.
Also the newer express device is called something like multirout or something 
like that.
Is this because the newer airport express has support for airplay 2?
If so then i have to try to find  a refurbished one for my kitchen.
/A

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Re: BBC and safari.

[dan d.]

If sports are on it is embargoed for net access.  You need to get the bbc 
player to hear them, this allows tv also.


On Wed, 29 May 2019, Anders Holmberg wrote:

> Hi!
> Are there any listen live links on the bbc website?
> I have now set my vpn to UK so that i can follow there sports but can???t 
> find any listen links.
> Very frustrating.
> /A
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Re: New iPod touch announced

[Mary Otten]

The new iPod has the home button. It does not have touch ID. Just the good old 
home button like all the previous iPods have had. It’s basically the same exact 
design except for the A10 instead of the eight, and more memory. But 32 GB is 
still ridiculous.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Does the new iPod have the home button still or have they gotten rid of it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of lenron brown
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
> 
> Oh yeah they did, if I was going to spend 400, I would be better off just 
> buying the IPad.
> 
>> On 5/28/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Donna,
>> I’m in the same position that you are. I have an iPhone 7 Plus which 
>> is acting as an iPod, since I now have a 10 R. I won’t be upgrading next 
>> year.
>> But the following year I suppose, if I do upgrade, myXr will become my 
>> new iPod. I really think they missed the boat here.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2019, at 7:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since I 
>>> got my iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, 
>>> I'll just start using my iPhone X as my iPod.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the 
 update of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the 
 same one that is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old 
 going on three, just like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant 
 changes that I am aware of, except the space. The cheapest one has 
 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. Earlier this year, 
 they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That is the 
 current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
 reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They 
 should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
 disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod 
 touch, but now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 
 Plus, forget it.
 
 
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Re: New iPod touch announced

[Jürgen Fleger]

I beleive they actually didn't want to update the iPod Touch. They just rescued 
the device from diing when iOS 13 comes out.

JürgenVon meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 30.05.2019 um 16:21 schrieb Mary Otten :
> 
> The new iPod has the home button. It does not have touch ID. Just the good 
> old home button like all the previous iPods have had. It’s basically the same 
> exact design except for the A10 instead of the eight, and more memory. But 32 
> GB is still ridiculous.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Does the new iPod have the home button still or have they gotten rid of it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 3:02 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
>> 
>> Oh yeah they did, if I was going to spend 400, I would be better off just 
>> buying the IPad.
>> 
>>> On 5/28/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> I’m in the same position that you are. I have an iPhone 7 Plus which 
>>> is acting as an iPod, since I now have a 10 R. I won’t be upgrading next 
>>> year.
>>> But the following year I suppose, if I do upgrade, myXr will become my 
>>> new iPod. I really think they missed the boat here.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 28, 2019, at 7:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since I 
 got my iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, 
 I'll just start using my iPhone X as my iPod.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the 
> update of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the 
> same one that is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old 
> going on three, just like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant 
> changes that I am aware of, except the space. The cheapest one has 
> 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. Earlier this year, 
> they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That is the 
> current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
> reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They 
> should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
> disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod 
> touch, but now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 
> Plus, forget it.
> 
> 
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Dragging and dropping on the Mac

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi list,

What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for the 
last two days, without succes again.

This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:

I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other app 
has to be dropped.
Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then press 
vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press vo+period. 
I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not be dropped.
I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and Finder 
windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to get it 
done if possible.

Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.

Anyone have some advice or ideas? 

Lots of thanks in advance!

Ronald

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Re: Dragging and dropping on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the app 
window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications folder, 
navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) 
to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser to get to the 
app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, press VO-cmd-f5 
(add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse up" to let you know 
that it was released.

Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward method 
for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like to use it 
for the sighted world.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)


 Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:

Hi list,

What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for the 
last two days, without succes again.

This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:

I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other app 
has to be dropped.
Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then press 
vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press vo+period. 
I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not be dropped.
I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and Finder 
windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to get it 
done if possible.

Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.

Anyone have some advice or ideas? 

Lots of thanks in advance!

Ronald

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Re: Amazon prime video app for iOS

[Phil Halton]

Come to think of it, yes, there is. I remember looking at it when I was using 
the Apple TV before I boxed it back up and put it away. There isn’t one for the 
earlier generations, but for the latest Jan yes.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 30, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Can anyone tell me if there is a version of the amazon prime  app for the 
> apple tv as well?
> 
> I've been given this as part of a new fiber package for my internet 
> connection,
> Can't say I want it or really need it but oh well,
> Unemployed in 3 weeks so I might have some time to kill while getting back 
> into exercise.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 6:30 AM
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> Subject: Amazon prime video app for iOS
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> This app seems to be very accessible on the iPhone, but I’m wondering, does 
> it work as well on an iPad? At least with an iPad I might actually be able to 
> see something with the larger screen. Just wondering what the best viewing 
> experience for Amazon Prime Video might be? Again how is the app on iOS for 
> iPad?
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Re: Any Greek speakers on this list?

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello. 
I am a Greek native speaker but unfortunately I am not running 10.14 and 
therefore I can’t help you. 
However, If you mean that the Greek voice spells out everything and not 
speaking Greek properly, then, as far as I know, the problem is still there. 

Nektarios.


> 29 Μαΐ 2019, 22:23, ο χρήστης «'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> » έγραψε:
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> If there are any Greek speakers other than myself on this list using Greek 
> voice on the mac in Mojave, could you confirm that the Greek voice hasn’t yet 
> been fixed by Apple although I’ve been reporting this since High Sierra 
> release?  I’m getting desperate as I can’t upgrade to Mojave because of the 
> Greek voice problem.  Apple has been ignoring my bug reports since then.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Dragging and dropping on the Mac

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi Tim,

Thanks a bunch, gonna try it out shortly.

best,
Ronald

> Op 30 mei 2019, om 16:49 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
> outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the 
> app window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications 
> folder, navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a 
> laptop) to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser to 
> get to the app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, press 
> VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse up" to 
> let you know that it was released.
> 
> Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward method 
> for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like to use 
> it for the sighted world.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
>  Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
> never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for 
> the last two days, without succes again.
> 
> This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:
> 
> I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other app 
> has to be dropped.
> Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then press 
> vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
> After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press 
> vo+period. I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not be 
> dropped.
> I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and Finder 
> windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to get it 
> done if possible.
> 
> Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.
> 
> Anyone have some advice or ideas? 
> 
> Lots of thanks in advance!
> 
> Ronald
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Re: Dragging and dropping on the Mac

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Tim, me again… dont work here. When I press vo+cmd+F5 Voice Over doesnt say 
anything about the mouse being down, only something like Capital I or word I. 
The FN key I dont have to use on my full size keyboard.
Is there perhaps some Voice Over setting I should change? Or is the OS X 
version of influence? I still run Sierra.

thanks,
Ronald

> Op 30 mei 2019, om 16:49 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
> outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the 
> app window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications 
> folder, navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a 
> laptop) to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser to 
> get to the app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, press 
> VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse up" to 
> let you know that it was released.
> 
> Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward method 
> for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like to use 
> it for the sighted world.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
>  Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
> never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for 
> the last two days, without succes again.
> 
> This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:
> 
> I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other app 
> has to be dropped.
> Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then press 
> vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
> After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press 
> vo+period. I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not be 
> dropped.
> I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and Finder 
> windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to get it 
> done if possible.
> 
> Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.
> 
> Anyone have some advice or ideas? 
> 
> Lots of thanks in advance!
> 
> Ronald
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Re: Dragging and dropping on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Sorry, I led you astray.  I missed a command in the instructions.  Too much 
going on here, I guess.  Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.  Try 
these instructions instead:

1.  Make sure that the app window where you wish to drop is open.
2.  Navigate to the Applications folder.
3.  Navigate to the app you wish to drag.
4.  press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to make sure that the mouse is 
where VO is announcing.
5.  Press VO-cmd-shift-space to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".
6.  Use App Chooser to get to the app where you plan to drop.
7.  Navigate to the drop location, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to 
bring the mouse to VO.

For #7, make sure that you've interacted with the area where you're supposed to 
drop if it is a table, scroll area or some other special element.

8.  Press VO-cmd-shift-space to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse up" to let you 
know that it was released.

That's what I get for being in a hurry and not checking over my instructions.  
Hope this works better for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)


 Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 30, 2019, at 14:27, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:

Tim, me again… dont work here. When I press vo+cmd+F5 Voice Over doesnt say 
anything about the mouse being down, only something like Capital I or word I. 
The FN key I dont have to use on my full size keyboard.
Is there perhaps some Voice Over setting I should change? Or is the OS X 
version of influence? I still run Sierra.

thanks,
Ronald

> Op 30 mei 2019, om 16:49 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
> outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the 
> app window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications 
> folder, navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a 
> laptop) to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser to 
> get to the app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, press 
> VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse up" to 
> let you know that it was released.
> 
> Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward method 
> for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like to use 
> it for the sighted world.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
>  Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
> never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for 
> the last two days, without succes again.
> 
> This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:
> 
> I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other app 
> has to be dropped.
> Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then press 
> vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
> After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press 
> vo+period. I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not be 
> dropped.
> I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and Finder 
> windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to get it 
> done if possible.
> 
> Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.
> 
> Anyone have some advice or ideas? 
> 
> Lots of thanks in advance!
> 
> Ronald
> 
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Re: Dragging and dropping on the Mac

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Try the space bar instead of F5.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On May 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Tim, me again… dont work here. When I press vo+cmd+F5 Voice Over doesnt say 
> anything about the mouse being down, only something like Capital I or word I. 
> The FN key I dont have to use on my full size keyboard.
> Is there perhaps some Voice Over setting I should change? Or is the OS X 
> version of influence? I still run Sierra.
> 
> thanks,
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 30 mei 2019, om 16:49 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
>> outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the 
>> app window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications 
>> folder, navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on 
>> a laptop) to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser to 
>> get to the app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, press 
>> VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse up" to 
>> let you know that it was released.
>> 
>> Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward 
>> method for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like 
>> to use it for the sighted world.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>>  Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
>> never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for 
>> the last two days, without succes again.
>> 
>> This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:
>> 
>> I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other 
>> app has to be dropped.
>> Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then press 
>> vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
>> After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press 
>> vo+period. I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not 
>> be dropped.
>> I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and Finder 
>> windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to get it 
>> done if possible.
>> 
>> Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.
>> 
>> Anyone have some advice or ideas? 
>> 
>> Lots of thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Ronald
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Re: Dragging and dropping on the Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I think on a full size keyboard, the fn key is directly above delete. I don't 
know if you need it for this or not though. it would be sort of hard to do all 
those keys at once.

> On May 30, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Try the space bar instead of F5.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Ronald van Rhijn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Tim, me again… dont work here. When I press vo+cmd+F5 Voice Over doesnt say 
>> anything about the mouse being down, only something like Capital I or word 
>> I. 
>> The FN key I dont have to use on my full size keyboard.
>> Is there perhaps some Voice Over setting I should change? Or is the OS X 
>> version of influence? I still run Sierra.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 30 mei 2019, om 16:49 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
>>> outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the 
>>> app window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications 
>>> folder, navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on 
>>> a laptop) to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser 
>>> to get to the app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, 
>>> press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse 
>>> up" to let you know that it was released.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward 
>>> method for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like 
>>> to use it for the sighted world.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
>>> never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for 
>>> the last two days, without succes again.
>>> 
>>> This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:
>>> 
>>> I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other 
>>> app has to be dropped.
>>> Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then 
>>> press vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
>>> After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press 
>>> vo+period. I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not 
>>> be dropped.
>>> I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and 
>>> Finder windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to 
>>> get it done if possible.
>>> 
>>> Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have some advice or ideas? 
>>> 
>>> Lots of thanks in advance!
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
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RE: Amazon prime video app for iOS

[Simon Fogarty]

S Tim,

 Oh well gotta make the most of what I'm now paying for.


Simon 

-Original Message-
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2019 11:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon prime video app for iOS

Hi,


Yes there is. The last time I used it, it had some accessibility issues, but it 
is usable.

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 2:43 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me if there is a version of the amazon prime  app for the 
> apple tv as well?
> 
> I've been given this as part of a new fiber package for my internet 
> connection, Can't say I want it or really need it but oh well, 
> Unemployed in 3 weeks so I might have some time to kill while getting back 
> into exercise.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 6:30 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Amazon prime video app for iOS
> 
> This app seems to be very accessible on the iPhone, but I’m wondering, does 
> it work as well on an iPad? At least with an iPad I might actually be able to 
> see something with the larger screen. Just wondering what the best viewing 
> experience for Amazon Prime Video might be? Again how is the app on iOS for 
> iPad?
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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

I've in the passed sold my phones on to either family members or other parties,

 Might be time to keep it for the iPod,

Yes I only have the buy option  either outright from day one or over 1 2 or 3 
years.

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Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2019 11:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced

Hey Simon,

It works really well.  And if you own your phone outright when you upgrade, you 
have a constant upgrade path for your iPod.  I've been very happy doing it this 
way.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 30, 2019, at 3:50 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hey Donna,
> 
> I was just thinking that same thing.
> 
> If the 256 gig iPod is at the same price here that the 128's were, I 
> might just get an older phone to use.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 2:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
> 
> I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since I got my 
> iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, I'll just start 
> using my iPhone X as my iPod.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the update 
>> of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the same one that 
>> is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old going on three, just 
>> like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant changes that I am aware of, 
>> except the space. The cheapest one has 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 
>> for 400. Earlier this year, they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 
>> chip. That is the current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, 
>> but my gut reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. 
>> They should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
>> disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod touch, but 
>> now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.
>> 
>> 
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RE: Airplay confusion.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I’m running a netgear router as the main provider and then the vback end 
of the house needs a bit of a pick up. The express seems to do well in this 
case.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2019 1:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.

Simon,

Yeah, I just use mine as extenders and AirPlay devices.  I have a Bose sound 
bar at the back of the house by the garden door.  I can then stream iTunes to 
that sound bar, open the window and have music out in the back yard while 
sitting outside having a cool one.  I can also just pull out my iPhone and use 
the iTunes Remote app to switch songs without even getting out of my recliner.  
Life's rough eh?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

[cid:image001.jpg@01D517DE.BCFDDCF0]
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 30, 2019, at 02:40, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Ok, so the one I have is a newer one as it does I believe 802.11N but still 
can’t be updated with firmware and is really not much use other than a range 
extender in the back of the house.

It’s ok, it’s only my unused GYM in that area.

The older ones I’ve only seen once and that was in a work colleagues office.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 2:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.

Simon,

I guess that there's old and older then.  The older ones looked like the 
charging brick for an Apple laptop.  You could plug it directly into the wall, 
or put the extension cable on it and place it anywhere.  The newer, or old, 
ones, looked more like an Apple TV 2 or 3 model.  The older ones did not have 
as modern of WiFi connectivity options, slower processors, and could not be 
upgraded as far from a software prospective.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2019, at 00:53, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Just for my own mind,
You say old / newer,
I thought apple stopped producing airport express / extreme devices a couple of 
years ago?

What is the older device,
I have an express  which I believe was the last model produced but would love 
to update if they had a newer version.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2019 2:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay confusion.

Hi,

It's possible that it's the fault of the older Airport Express as you've 
suggested.  The processor in the older one is slower, it does not support all 
the same features as the newer models, and usually only updates to a version of 
software that does not support all the newer features.  These, of course, are 
just educated guesses as I don't have an older Express around to confirm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2019, at 05:46, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
I have 2 airport express devices in my Apartment.
One older and one of the newer ones.
When i get for example a call or want to ask siri about something and i am 
connected to the older airport express the music interupts as it used to do 
when connected to bouetooth.
But when i am connected to the newer airport express and do the same the music 
continues to play like nothing has happend.
Also the newer express device is called something like multirout or something 
like that.
Is this because the newer airport express has support for airplay 2?
If so then i have to try to find  a refurbished one for my kitchen.
/A

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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah just read a mac rumours report on it, it's twice as fast as the previous 
version of the ipod,
 And better graphics.

If the price wasn't so bad it would be ok, but not what they want for them here 
will I be buying one.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2019 2:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced

The new iPod has the home button. It does not have touch ID. Just the good old 
home button like all the previous iPods have had. It’s basically the same exact 
design except for the A10 instead of the eight, and more memory. But 32 GB is 
still ridiculous.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Does the new iPod have the home button still or have they gotten rid of it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of lenron brown
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
> 
> Oh yeah they did, if I was going to spend 400, I would be better off just 
> buying the IPad.
> 
>> On 5/28/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Donna,
>> I’m in the same position that you are. I have an iPhone 7 Plus which 
>> is acting as an iPod, since I now have a 10 R. I won’t be upgrading next 
>> year.
>> But the following year I suppose, if I do upgrade, myXr will become 
>> my new iPod. I really think they missed the boat here.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2019, at 7:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever since 
>>> I got my iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone next year, 
>>> I'll just start using my iPhone X as my iPod.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced 
 the update of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, 
 the same one that is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years 
 old going on three, just like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other 
 significant changes that I am aware of, except the space. The 
 cheapest one has
 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. Earlier this year, 
 they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That is the 
 current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
 reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They 
 should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
 disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod 
 touch, but now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 
 Plus, forget it.
 
 
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