I think on a full size keyboard, the fn key is directly above delete. I don't 
know if you need it for this or not though. it would be sort of hard to do all 
those keys at once.

> On May 30, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Raymond Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Try the space bar instead of F5.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl 
>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Tim, me again… dont work here. When I press vo+cmd+F5 Voice Over doesnt say 
>> anything about the mouse being down, only something like Capital I or word 
>> I. 
>> The FN key I dont have to use on my full size keyboard.
>> Is there perhaps some Voice Over setting I should change? Or is the OS X 
>> version of influence? I still run Sierra.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 30 mei 2019, om 16:49 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That version of Drag & Drop does not normally work in the situation you're 
>>> outlining.  Try using the original Drag & Drop method.  Make sure that the 
>>> app window where you wish to drop is open.  Navigate to the Applications 
>>> folder, navigate to the app you wish to drag, press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on 
>>> a laptop) to pick it up.  VO will announce "Mouse down".  Use App Chooser 
>>> to get to the app where you plan to drop, navigate to the drop locations, 
>>> press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if on a laptop) to drop.  VO will announce "Mouse 
>>> up" to let you know that it was released.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, even this method will not work.  Drag &b Drop is an awkward 
>>> method for these sorts of actions, but it appears that many developers like 
>>> to use it for the sighted world.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
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>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>>> 
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 08:38, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl 
>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> What are your experiences with dragging and dropping on the Mac? I probably 
>>> never managed to succesfully do it when I tried it and have tried it it for 
>>> the last two days, without succes again.
>>> 
>>> This is what I am trying to do and how I do it:
>>> 
>>> I want to drag an app onto another app. I open the app on which the other 
>>> app has to be dropped.
>>> Then I open up the Application folder, select the desired app and then 
>>> press vo+comma  to mark it for dragging.
>>> After that I switch with command+tab to the destinated app and press 
>>> vo+period. I hear some moving sound, but get the message that it could not 
>>> be dropped.
>>> I have been thinking that its perhaps only possible when both app and 
>>> Finder windows are visible, but have no idea if this is the case and how to 
>>> get it done if possible.
>>> 
>>> Copying and pasting doesn’t work either.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have some advice or ideas? 
>>> 
>>> Lots of thanks in advance!
>>> 
>>> Ronald
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