RE: swift playgroupnd

[Simon Fogarty]

Actually it appears to be an item on the menu of the iPad
 It’s called playground I hadn’t spotted it when looking  through my apps.

But it’s already there in the IOS 10 beta install.

Guess that’s why I couldn’t find it in the app store

Which makes sense really as it’s not a full production app yet so would have to 
in a beta app store rather than the production app store.



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On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 7:26 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: swift playgroupnd

As I recall, it's a download you can find in the App Store.
On Jul 24, 2016, at 04:25, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi,

As I’m  running the IOS 10 Beta  on my iPad where would I find the Swift 
Playground beta?

Or is it because my iPad is a mini 4 I’m not actually running a ful iPad 
therefore don’t have the ability to run the swift playground software.


Cheer.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2016 5:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swift playgroupnd

Playground  is iPad iOS 10-only and is 100% VoiceoVer accessible.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:48 AM Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Avid,

Thanks for that, Might hve to install the beta to my iPad.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:03 PM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swift playgroupnd

According to a blind programmer who is on the Swift Playground team, Swift 
Playground is fully accessible.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jul 2016, at 20:59, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi Donna,

I didn’t know it was available yet.

I’m keen to know how accessible it is before I go getting it.

But very interested.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2016 1:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swift playgroupnd

I was actually hoping to buy it.  So I hope it does work on the iPhone, because 
I don't have an iPad.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 20, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Donna I was just wondering that myself.

My iPhone 6s+ is not much smaller than my iPad mini 4.

Go figure.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2016 11:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swift playgroupnd

Hi Alex,

Does that mean that it cannot be run on an iPhone?
thanks,
Donna

On Jul 19, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Alex Hall 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

The app will be available for everyone, for free, but it can only run on an 
iPad running iOS10. Right now, it's available for those running iOS10 betas as 
part of their testing.
On Jul 19, 2016, at 06:46, Ben J. Bloomgren 
mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Simon,

As far as I can tell, it'll be available for everybody, being that it's 
supposed to be a helper for people who want to learn to program for Apple's 
apps.

Ben

On 7/19/2016 2:28, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Hi List,

I was just wondering about the swift Playground  dev app that is to be released 
some time this year.

Is that to be available for everyone or only available for Developers?

Does anyone know if its available yet or is it only currently in a dev or beta 
state

Thanks for any information re this.
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RE: El Capitan

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Marie,

 The downloaded installer should be called 
" install os x el capitan.app" 
However if it's in a DMG then you may have to open it to find the .app 
installer file.
 Try a command o on it and see what happens.

 Otherwise I'd delete the file you have and then try downloading it again  and 
see what happens.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 9:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Capitan

No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app store 
down load” When I click to open it nothing happens.

Marie Lyons
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> 
> Have  a look in your applications folder for an install OS X el capitan appp 
> and if it's there click on it to run then hopefully it will start the install.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
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> Subject: El Capitan
> 
> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick to 
> this? 
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RE: El Capitan

[Simon Fogarty]

Marie,

 For the app installer file to run correctly it really needs to be in your 
applications folder so if anything it will be there.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 9:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Capitan

Where would I look beside the app folder for such an app? It isn’t in the app 
folder.

Marie Lyons
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   That will happen if there is an Install OS X anywhere on your system. 
> Disconnect all external drives and delete that file from Applications and 
> dump the trash. Then try again.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 7/22/2016 3:25 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
>> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
>> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
>> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
>> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
>> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick to 
>> this?
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>> 
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RE: El Capitan

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Marie,

 If you had an installer file in your trash it wouldn't effect the content of 
your applications folder.

 As I stated in an earlier email, check to se what type of file the one in your 
applications is and if it's a DMG then command key and O will open it and with 
any luck you will find an application installer file in there called:
 "install os x el capitan.app" 
This is what you click on or command key o on to open and start the 
installation 
 The update process from apple for an OS not just el capitan this is for any OS 
X install or update will be put into the applications folder and then run from 
there.

Good luck and don't give in without a fight.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 11:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Capitan

I am in the process of emptying the trash. I only have a CD player plugged into 
my computer. I don’t have an external hard drive.

Marie Lyons
> On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:40 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Install OS X El Capitan.app  is the file name and should be 6.22gigs. If 
> its not in the Applications folder but you cannot download it, there is 
> either a copy in trash or on a connected external drive. Empty trash and/or 
> disconnect all external drives.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 7/24/2016 2:05 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
>> Where would I look beside the app folder for such an app? It isn’t in the 
>> app folder.
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  That will happen if there is an Install OS X anywhere on your system. 
>>> Disconnect all external drives and delete that file from Applications and 
>>> dump the trash. Then try again.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 7/22/2016 3:25 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
 I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
 download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
 minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
 Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
 Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick 
 to this?
 
 Marie Lyons
 
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RE: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi mary,

 I think this depends on where you get it from on the planet,

  You do have to put a sim card in an iPhone to get it up and running otherwise 
it tells you that there is no sim card and spits the dummy.

 However once you have it up and running you can take the sim out and use the 
phone for other things but it will still tell you that the sim is missing 

Unlike android devices which don't really care so long as they havea wifi  
connection they can get data on.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 1:56 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, and 
you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is that 
true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it has 
worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone se  as 
an iPod.  Is that possible?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Simon Fogarty]

Google aren't as retentive as apple are.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 3:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

  Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running. 
> 
> Danny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
>> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
>> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
>> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
>> se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
>> 
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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Scott Granados]

Mary, this is not a big deals, your carrier will give you a sim for free if you 
ask nicely or just reuse one if you have one handy.  It’s not needed to have 
valid service on the sim just that something’s in the slot.

> On Jul 24, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
> se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: El Capitan

[Scott Granados]

That means it’s still trying to or needs to have the download resumed.

> On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app store 
> down load” When I click to open it nothing happens.
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marie,
>> 
>> Have  a look in your applications folder for an install OS X el capitan appp 
>> and if it's there click on it to run then hopefully it will start the 
>> install.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>> Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:26 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: El Capitan
>> 
>> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
>> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
>> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
>> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
>> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick to 
>> this? 
>> 
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Re: Very warm Mac Air and its recharger

[Scott Granados]

There’s warm and then there’s warm.:)


So what I’d say is if you can hold your hand on the adapter for example and not 
pull away you’re probably fine.  Apple adapters, at least the one’s I’ve owned 
tend to be warm.  Same with the laptop it should warm but not get to a point 
that I’d call very hot.  The adapter definitely gets hotter than the laptop 
itself.  Make sure your laptop is well ventilated and on a surface like a table 
where heat can be disbursed when charging.  Also make sure your adapter is 
ventilated and not say covered by a blanket or otherwise blocked from venting 
heat.  You should be fine.

 


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> Hi,
> 
> I have a used Mac Air that seems to be working well.  I know that a Windows 
> laptop with drives has a fan and it may need to be cleaned out when it's 
> over-heated.But what about my Mac, and even its recharger?  Is this 
> normal, or should I take it in for repair?  It sort of scares me.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
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Re: OT: custom sound works for Mail, not Messages

[Alex Hall]

Oddly, I don't seem to have a Private Frameworks under either /library or 
~/library. But then, I'm on the Sierra beta, so maybe these files have moved.
> On Jul 24, 2016, at 22:45, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> It looks like the file type should be core audio file 
> 
> I found the Bamboo sound in the Modern directory under:
> 
> Library/PrivateFrameworks/ToneLibrary.framework/Resources/AlertTones
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
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> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I just saved an AIFF file for use with audio alerts on my Mac. I've assigned 
>> it to Mail with no problem, but I really wanted it for messages. However, it 
>> doesn't appear in Messages > Preferences > sound. Is there more I need to do 
>> than just adding it to ~/library/sounds, or can I not make custom message 
>> arrival sounds? Thanks.
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Re: El Capitan

[Kimber Gardner]

That's what happened to me. For some reason my download had paused, so
no matter how many times I tried to download the installer (because I
didn't realized I had one that was suspended), I wasn't able to get it
done. Finally, I had some sighted help who told me the download had
paused and once it was restarted all went fine. But I still don't know
how I would ever have known that without sighted assistance.

On 7/25/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> That means it’s still trying to or needs to have the download resumed.
>
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>
>> No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app
>> store down load” When I click to open it nothing happens.
>>
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Marie,
>>>
>>> Have  a look in your applications folder for an install OS X el capitan
>>> appp and if it's there click on it to run then hopefully it will start
>>> the install.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>>> Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:26 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: El Capitan
>>>
>>> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to
>>> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a
>>> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have
>>> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again.
>>> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick
>>> to this?
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OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Scott Granados]

I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the blind 
and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with the federal 
agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even though I know they 
are part of the process.
I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and 
started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the position 
because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work was right 
with in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive references 
and track record to back up that position.  There are no accessibility issues, 
no parts of the job that require vision specifically and the new engineer who 
started the day I did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with 
me.  One of the engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island 
Libertarian party and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle 
and the other fellow seemed equally on board.
I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled on 
how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new engineer who 
joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t have bothered to 
have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but make sure your own 
staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if 
they did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in the 
team and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in there, 
especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the 
equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s a 
rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an attorney 
that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  I have deep 
pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to start with the state or federal agency 
I’d like to have someone advising me who knows the right moves to make.  Again, 
I have deep pockets so I don’t think I should have any issue motivating someone 
sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s name at this point but may in the 
future if we don’t get anywhere.  For now anyone who has any ideas of someone 
who could give me good advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

 

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Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

M. Taylor  wrote:
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> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on either 
> the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  


I am not aware of any screen reader that supports this feature. They should
all support it, and not just with UEB.

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Re: Very warm Mac Air and its recharger

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

It's gonna get warm, no doubt, but when you say very warm, what're we 
talking.  I mean is it painful to touch?  If you do so, does it hurt?  If 
so, then yeah, you definitely probably would want to have it looked at.

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To: "Mac Visionaries" 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 7:31 PM
Subject: Very warm Mac Air and its recharger


Hi,

I have a used Mac Air that seems to be working well.  I know that a Windows 
laptop with drives has a fan and it may need to be cleaned out when it's 
over-heated.But what about my Mac, and even its recharger?  Is this 
normal, or should I take it in for repair?  It sort of scares me.


Thanks,


Sharon H.

Sharon H.

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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Not true.  I've used an IPhone without a sim, and it worked just fine.  The 
biggest thing is just make sure that it's on wifi.  Even if it is isn't, 
it'll work, but it'll just be extremely limited.

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To: ; 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:56 PM
Subject: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Good point.  When I had my -phone with no sim in it, it did initially have a 
sim with activated service.

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You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running.

Danny

Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an 
iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Scott Granados]

This only works if you don’t need to do the first time setup.  If it’s a blank 
iPhone it needs a sim to setup the first time and then it can be used with out 
the SIM until it’s reset again.


> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> 
> Not true.  I've used an IPhone without a sim, and it worked just fine.  The 
> biggest thing is just make sure that it's on wifi.  Even if it is isn't, 
> it'll work, but it'll just be extremely limited.
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> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:56 PM
> Subject: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
> 
> 
> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
> se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
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Re: OT: custom sound works for Mail, not Messages

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

My primary idea was to let you know to try core audio instead of an AIFF for 
the file type.

ghe location. 
I used the find commad in termibal.  To get

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Oddly, I don't seem to have a Private Frameworks under either /library or 
> ~/library. But then, I'm on the Sierra beta, so maybe these files have moved.
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 22:45, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> It looks like the file type should be core audio file 
>> 
>> I found the Bamboo sound in the Modern directory under:
>> 
>> Library/PrivateFrameworks/ToneLibrary.framework/Resources/AlertTones
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just saved an AIFF file for use with audio alerts on my Mac. I've 
>>> assigned it to Mail with no problem, but I really wanted it for messages. 
>>> However, it doesn't appear in Messages > Preferences > sound. Is there more 
>>> I need to do than just adding it to ~/library/sounds, or can I not make 
>>> custom message arrival sounds? Thanks.
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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  Not 
just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two 
fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the 
weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that 
was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like 
on IPhones.


Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
that a bit interesting.

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


 Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  
wrote:


You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and 
running.


Danny

Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
for, and it has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like 
to use an iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Uh, news for you.  I have an IPhone 6+ over here with no sim, and it's not 
prompting me that there is no sim installed.  And yes, this is a sim based 
network phone which initially was through AT&T.  It's not jailbroken, no sim 
unlock, nothing.  It's jsut as it was from the AT&T store... no beta build 
installed of iOS, nothing.


I wonder why for you, it would tell you that.

Maybe I'm confused.

Are you saying it pops up and nags you of this, or are you saying it says 
this on the main lock sfcreen only.  If the ladder, then yes.  You're right. 
I guess I'm thinking you're meaning it's constantly popping up a 
notification telling you this.

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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:31 AM
Subject: RE: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Hi mary,

I think this depends on where you get it from on the planet,

 You do have to put a sim card in an iPhone to get it up and running 
otherwise it tells you that there is no sim card and spits the dummy.


However once you have it up and running you can take the sim out and use 
the phone for other things but it will still tell you that the sim is 
missing


Unlike android devices which don't really care so long as they havea wifi 
connection they can get data on.

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Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 1:56 PM
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Subject: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Mary Otten]

Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not sure 
if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy enough to 
check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into the Nexus six 
however, I'm not so sure.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's weird 
> about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  Not just a 
> dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both KitKat, and 
> with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two fingers to turn 
> on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, not, happen.  As 
> soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two fingers spread, 
> accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the weirdest thing I'd 
> ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that was a glitch, or if 
> you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like on IPhones.
> 
> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
> that a bit interesting.
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> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
> 
> 
> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
> Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running.
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
>>> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
>>> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
>>> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an 
>>> iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

 it only supports got 7 and8. For Jaws there an attributes area of settings 
center, but i believe

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:04 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Quite Correct, E.T.
>> 
>> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on either 
>> the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  
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> I am not aware of any screen reader that supports this feature. They should
> all support it, and not just with UEB.
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apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

[Scott Berry]

I don’t remember who did the scripts for all the cool things for Apple 
script for Vo.  But does anyone have a zipped copy they could send to me I need 
some of those scripts.


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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Cheree Heppe]

You're not alone by any means.
Try the two blindness Orgs for referrals.  ACLU might work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 04:54, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the 
> blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with the 
> federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even though I 
> know they are part of the process.
>I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and 
> started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the 
> position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work 
> was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive 
> references and track record to back up that position.  There are no 
> accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require vision specifically 
> and the new engineer who started the day I did as well as our manager all 
> seemed fine with working with me.  One of the engineers was also highly 
> placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party and strongly against 
> discrimination as a matter of principle and the other fellow seemed equally 
> on board.
>I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the most 
> mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled on 
> how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new engineer 
> who joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t have 
> bothered to have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but make 
> sure your own staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
>I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if they 
> did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in the 
> team and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in there, 
> especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the 
> equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s a 
> rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an attorney 
> that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  I have 
> deep pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to start with the state or federal 
> agency I’d like to have someone advising me who knows the right moves to 
> make.  Again, I have deep pockets so I don’t think I should have any issue 
> motivating someone sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s name at this 
> point but may in the future if we don’t get anywhere.  For now anyone who has 
> any ideas of someone who could give me good advice on how to proceed would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> 
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Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK guys,

Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
audio CD.

Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.

Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up to 
80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc writing 
errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd CD.

I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it out, 
take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it to the 
second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and annoying.

One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  It 
is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have Amadeus 
Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm a 
little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, as 
to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for the 
faint of heart.

Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, that 
would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  I 
just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.

Is there not something that would make it that easy?

Chris.

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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Mary,

Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and I'd 
imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however it 
will fit the 5S, as I've done it.


Chris.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into 
the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  Not 
just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two 
fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the 
weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that 
was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just 
like on IPhones.


Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
that a bit interesting.

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  
wrote:


You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and 
running.


Danny

Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
for, and it has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like 
to use an iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Scott,
write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. 
It really depends on your goals of course.

Kare


On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:


I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the blind 
and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with the federal 
agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even though I know they 
are part of the process.
I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and 
started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the position 
because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work was right 
with in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive references 
and track record to back up that position.  There are no accessibility issues, 
no parts of the job that require vision specifically and the new engineer who 
started the day I did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with 
me.  One of the engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island 
Libertarian party and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle 
and the other fellow seemed equally on board.
I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled on 
how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new engineer who 
joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t have bothered to 
have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but make sure your own 
staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if 
they did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in the 
team and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in there, 
especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the 
equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s a 
rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an attorney 
that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  I have deep 
pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to start with the state or federal agency 
I’d like to have someone advising me who knows the right moves to make.  Again, 
I have deep pockets so I don’t think I should have any issue motivating someone 
sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s name at this point but may in the 
future if we don’t get anywhere.  For now anyone who has any ideas of someone 
who could give me good advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.

Thanks
Scott



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Re: apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm thinking it was Alex Hall, but don't quote me on that.
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I don’t remember who did the scripts for all the cool things for Apple 
script for Vo.  But does anyone have a zipped copy they could send to me I 
need some of those scripts.



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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Ann Smith]

Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I was 
more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew it, but 
after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to get 
here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm not sure 
who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an offer you more 
support and best of luck.
I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some guidance 
with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to get back to 
you as soon as possible.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. It 
> really depends on your goals of course.
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the 
>> blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with 
>> the federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even 
>> though I know they are part of the process.
>>I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
>> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and 
>> started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the 
>> position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work 
>> was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, 
>> positive references and track record to back up that position.  There are no 
>> accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require vision specifically 
>> and the new engineer who started the day I did as well as our manager all 
>> seemed fine with working with me.  One of the engineers was also highly 
>> placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party and strongly against 
>> discrimination as a matter of principle and the other fellow seemed equally 
>> on board.
>>I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
>> most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled 
>> on how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new 
>> engineer who joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t 
>> have bothered to have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but 
>> make sure your own staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
>>I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if 
>> they did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in 
>> the team and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in 
>> there, especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the 
>> equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s 
>> a rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an 
>> attorney that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  
>> I have deep pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to start with the state or 
>> federal agency I’d like to have someone advising me who knows the right 
>> moves to make.  Again, I have deep pockets so I don’t think I should have 
>> any issue motivating someone sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s 
>> name at this point but may in the future if we don’t get anywhere.  For now 
>> anyone who has any ideas of someone who could give me good advice on how to 
>> proceed would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Tim Kilburn]

Chris,

Did you try QuickTime?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 25, 2016, at 09:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

OK guys,
 
Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
 
So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
audio CD.
 
Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
 
The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.
 
Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up to 
80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc writing 
errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd CD.
 
I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it out, 
take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it to the 
second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and annoying.
 
One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  It 
is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have Amadeus 
Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm a 
little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.
 
I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, as 
to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for the 
faint of heart.
 
Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, that 
would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  I 
just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.
 
Is there not something that would make it that easy?
 
Chris.

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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Ray Foret jr]

Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where you are 
on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK guys,
>  
> Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
>  
> So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
> audio CD.
>  
> Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
> Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
>  
> The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
> Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
> concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, 
> I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went 
> that idea out the window.
>  
> Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
> split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
> Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up 
> to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc 
> writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 
> 2nd CD.
>  
> I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
> session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it 
> out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it 
> to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and 
> annoying.
>  
> One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  It 
> is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
> split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have 
> Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  
> I'm a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.
>  
> I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, 
> as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for 
> the faint of heart.
>  
> Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, that 
> would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  I 
> just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
> there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
> name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
> beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
> half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.
>  
> Is there not something that would make it that easy?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we 
couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having to 
cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would wreck it. 
And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. But if I do end 
up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally consider getting 
another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is starting to act 
strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same as the iPhone SE. So 
I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate really. And the newer 
iPhone has a better chip than the current version of the iPad mini.
Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and I'd 
> imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however it 
> will fit the 5S, as I've done it.
> 
> Chris.
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> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
> 
> 
> Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
> excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
> sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
> enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into the 
> Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
>> weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  Not 
>> just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
>> KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
>> fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
>> not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two 
>> fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the 
>> weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that 
>> was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like 
>> on IPhones.
>> 
>> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
>> that a bit interesting.
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>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
>> Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running.
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
 and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
 that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
 has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an 
 iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
 
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[michael babcock]

And or get Amadeus light if you want to save some money, use command+G to jump 
to the point, command+Y, to move your insert insertion  point to play head, 
command+right arrow to select to end of file, command+X to cut, command+N to 
make a new document,Command+V to paste into that new document.
HTH

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where you 
> are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK guys,
>>  
>> Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
>>  
>> So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
>> audio CD.
>>  
>> Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
>> Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
>>  
>> The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
>> Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
>> concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even 
>> then, I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there 
>> went that idea out the window.
>>  
>> Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
>> split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
>> Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up 
>> to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc 
>> writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 
>> 2nd CD.
>>  
>> I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
>> session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it 
>> out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it 
>> to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and 
>> annoying.
>>  
>> One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  It 
>> is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
>> split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have 
>> Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  
>> I'm a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.
>>  
>> I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, 
>> as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for 
>> the faint of heart.
>>  
>> Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, that 
>> would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  I 
>> just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select 
>> from there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a 
>> different name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from 
>> there to the beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name 
>> for the second half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.
>>  
>> Is there not something that would make it that easy?
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I thought about Quicktime, but I'm not exactly sure how to do it in there.  Can 
you give me some specific steps?  I confess, as many years as I've used the 
mac, I've not really done much at all with Quicktime; guilty as charged.  I 
figured it would probably do it, but I just wasn't totally sure how.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  Chris,


  Did you try QuickTime?


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Jul 25, 2016, at 09:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


  OK guys,

  Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

  So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
audio CD.

  Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

  The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.

  Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up to 
80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc writing 
errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd CD.

  I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it out, 
take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it to the 
second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and annoying.

  One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  It 
is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have Amadeus 
Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm a 
little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

  I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, 
as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for 
the faint of heart.

  Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, that 
would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  I 
just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.

  Is there not something that would make it that easy?

  Chris.


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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Scott Granados]

So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t want to 
push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are pretty 
tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is appreciated.  I 
don’t want to ware out my welcome.

I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve 
received on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I 
wanted to thank everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list 
traffic.  I’ve gotten universally supportive messages here and on the eyes free 
android list where I asked the same question and that really does help.

We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone has 
any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic in general 
or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.

I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic traffic.

Scott


> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I was 
> more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew it, but 
> after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
> I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to get 
> here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm not 
> sure who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an offer you 
> more support and best of luck.
> I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some 
> guidance with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to 
> get back to you as soon as possible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. 
>> It really depends on your goals of course.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the 
>>> blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with 
>>> the federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even 
>>> though I know they are part of the process.
>>>   I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
>>> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and 
>>> started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the 
>>> position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This 
>>> work was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, 
>>> positive references and track record to back up that position.  There are 
>>> no accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require vision 
>>> specifically and the new engineer who started the day I did as well as our 
>>> manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One of the engineers was 
>>> also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party and strongly 
>>> against discrimination as a matter of principle and the other fellow seemed 
>>> equally on board.
>>>   I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
>>> most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being 
>>> grilled on how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the 
>>> new engineer who joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager 
>>> couldn’t have bothered to have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me 
>>> questions but make sure your own staff live up to the same standards or am 
>>> I crazy here?
>>>   I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if 
>>> they did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in 
>>> the team and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in 
>>> there, especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire 
>>> the equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure 
>>> that’s a rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an 
>>> attorney that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this subject matter? 
>>>  I have deep pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to start with the state 
>>> or federal agency I’d like to have someone advising me who knows the right 
>>> moves to make.  Again, I have deep pockets so I don’t think I should have 
>>> any issue motivating someone sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s 
>>> name at this point but may in the future if we don’t get anywhere.  For now 
>>> anyone who has any ideas of someone who could give me good advice on how to 
>>> proceed would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Can you give some specific steps, Ray?  I've never used Amadeus before.

I've always wanted to try it though.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where you 
are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK guys,

Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
audio CD.

Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.

Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up to 
80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc writing 
errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd CD.

I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it out, 
take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it to the 
second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and annoying.

One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  
It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have Amadeus 
Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm a 
little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, 
as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for 
the faint of heart.

Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, 
that would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  
I just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.

Is there not something that would make it that easy?

Chris.


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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Wow, cutting the sim card?  That was pretty stupid!  Why couldn't they just 
replace the sim, for God sake!  Maybe I don't know the whole situation, but 
you'd think that if you went to a local store, they'd just say, whoops?  You 
have the wrong size sim.  Hold on, we'll get you one that'll fit.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we 
couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having 
to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would 
wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. 
But if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally 
consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is 
starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same 
as the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate 
really. And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current version of 
the iPad mini.

Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Mary,

Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and 
I'd imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however 
it will fit the 5S, as I've done it.


Chris.
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- Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into 
the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all. 
Not just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held 
two fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was 
the weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if 
that was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, 
just like on IPhones.


Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
that a bit interesting.

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Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need 
a Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  
wrote:


You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and 
running.


Danny

Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
for, and it has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like 
to use an iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?


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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Thank you, Mike!  This was incredibly incredibly helpful!  I assume that when 
you said command+right arrow to select to the end of the file, are you sure you 
don't mean shift+command+right arrow?

Also, would left arrow go from the selection after hitting command+Y to the 
beginning of the audio, for when I want to do the second half?
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  - Original Message - 
  From: michael babcock 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  And or get Amadeus light if you want to save some money, use command+G to 
jump to the point, command+Y, to move your insert insertion  point to play 
head, command+right arrow to select to end of file, command+X to cut, command+N 
to make a new document,Command+V to paste into that new document.
  HTH


On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:


Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where you 
are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.




Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


  On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  OK guys,

  Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

  So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to 
an audio CD.

  Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use 
like Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

  The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.

  Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, 
and split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up to 
80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc writing 
errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd CD.

  I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it out, 
take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it to the 
second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and annoying.

  One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  
It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have Amadeus 
Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm a 
little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

  I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that 
route, as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not 
for the faint of heart.

  Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, 
that would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  
I just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.

  Is there not something that would make it that easy?

  Chris.


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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Michael Babcock]

No, I ment command+right arrow, the command does a “extend to next marker” 
command, not “select” and this may be why your thinking about including the 
shift key.
Command+Left will extend to previous marker, so yes this would extend to the 
start assuming you don’t insert any markers.


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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Mike!  This was incredibly incredibly helpful!  I assume that when 
> you said command+right arrow to select to the end of the file, are you sure 
> you don't mean shift+command+right arrow?
>  
> Also, would left arrow go from the selection after hitting command+Y to the 
> beginning of the audio, for when I want to do the second half?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com 
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: michael babcock 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma
>> 
>> And or get Amadeus light if you want to save some money, use command+G to 
>> jump to the point, command+Y, to move your insert insertion  point to play 
>> head, command+right arrow to select to end of file, command+X to cut, 
>> command+N to make a new document,Command+V to paste into that new document.
>> HTH
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where you 
>>> are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 OK guys,
  
 Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
  
 So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to 
 an audio CD.
  
 Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use 
 like Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
  
 The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
 Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
 concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even 
 then, I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there 
 went that idea out the window.
  
 Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, 
 and split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes. 
  Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have 
 up to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc 
 writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on 
 the 2nd CD.
  
 I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
 session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it 
 out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit 
 it to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, 
 and annoying.
  
 One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  
 It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that 
 could split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't 
 have Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would 
 help.  I'm a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do 
 it.
  
 I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that 
 route, as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's 
 definitely not for the faint of heart.
  
 Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, 
 that would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, 
 etc.  I just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, 
 select from there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with 
 a different name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select 
 from there to the beginning of the file, delete, save the file with 
 another name for the second half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.
  
 Is there not something that would make it th

Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Michael Babcock]

FYI, this page may be useful, the commands are mostly the same in the pro 
vs,lite.
http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/amadeus_pro_quick_guide.shtml
 


***
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Your Own Pay 
Lets Connect On Twitter
@payown 
Or facebook
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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
> 
> No, I ment command+right arrow, the command does a “extend to next marker” 
> command, not “select” and this may be why your thinking about including the 
> shift key.
> Command+Left will extend to previous marker, so yes this would extend to the 
> start assuming you don’t insert any markers.
> 
> 
> ***
> Michael Babcock
> Consulting Blind entrepreneurs on digital marketing
> Your Own Pay 
> Lets Connect On Twitter
> @payown 
> Or facebook
> Consulting with Michael Babcock 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, Mike!  This was incredibly incredibly helpful!  I assume that 
>> when you said command+right arrow to select to the end of the file, are you 
>> sure you don't mean shift+command+right arrow?
>>  
>> Also, would left arrow go from the selection after hitting command+Y to the 
>> beginning of the audio, for when I want to do the second half?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: michael babcock 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma
>>> 
>>> And or get Amadeus light if you want to save some money, use command+G to 
>>> jump to the point, command+Y, to move your insert insertion  point to play 
>>> head, command+right arrow to select to end of file, command+X to cut, 
>>> command+N to make a new document,Command+V to paste into that new document.
>>> HTH
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret jr >>> > wrote:
 
 Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where 
 you are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the 
 file.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 
 
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> OK guys,
>  
> Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
>  
> So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to 
> an audio CD.
>  
> Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use 
> like Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
>  
> The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
> Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
> concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even 
> then, I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so 
> there went that idea out the window.
>  
> Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, 
> and split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 
> minutes.  Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I 
> know I have up to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to 
> insure no disc writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left 
> over could go on the 2nd CD.
>  
> I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
> session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce 
> it out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, 
> edit it to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's 
> tedious, and annoying.
>  
> One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  
> It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that 
> could split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't 
> have Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would 
> help.  I'm a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta 
> do it.
>  
> I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather no

Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Scott Granados]

Chris, cutting SIM cards is standard practice.  They make specific cutters and 
tools that stores use to do this although you can do it yourself with a good 
cutting tool.  Many times you’re directed to do so by the carrier, in other 
cases they give them away for free.  T-Mobile is one that if you have a good 
relationship with your local store they give them away and AT&t is one known 
for cutting and reusing SIM cards, I suspect many stores will but I know in 
some cases you’re specifically told to resize the sim.  You can also get 
adapters to fit the nano sim in a larger form factor so it can be reused in 
both directions.

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, cutting the sim card?  That was pretty stupid!  Why couldn't they just 
> replace the sim, for God sake!  Maybe I don't know the whole situation, but 
> you'd think that if you went to a local store, they'd just say, whoops?  You 
> have the wrong size sim.  Hold on, we'll get you one that'll fit.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
> 
> 
> Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we 
> couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having 
> to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would 
> wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. But 
> if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally 
> consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is 
> starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same as 
> the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate really. 
> And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current version of the iPad 
> mini.
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and I'd 
>> imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however it 
>> will fit the 5S, as I've done it.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
>> 
>> 
>> Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
>> excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
>> sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
>> enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into 
>> the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
>>> weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all. Not 
>>> just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
>>> KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
>>> fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
>>> not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two 
>>> fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the 
>>> weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that 
>>> was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like 
>>> on IPhones.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
>>> that a bit interesting.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
>>> Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
 
 You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running.
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
> SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
> it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
> for, and it 

Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Scott Granados]

Hi Mary,

All the modern apple products use the nano SIM so once you have a right sized 
SIM you can use it between devices.
T-Mobile will give you a nano SIM for free if you ask nicely you can go 
that route.  Also I meant to ping you off list, they are offering a bunch of 
unlimited plans again you may want to give them another call.

If all this is to much of a headache I have a pile of nano SIMs, I could drop 
one in the mail.

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we 
> couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having 
> to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would 
> wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. But 
> if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally 
> consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is 
> starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same as 
> the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate really. 
> And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current version of the iPad 
> mini.
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and I'd 
>> imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however it 
>> will fit the 5S, as I've done it.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
>> 
>> 
>> Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
>> excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
>> sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
>> enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into 
>> the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
>>> weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  Not 
>>> just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
>>> KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
>>> fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
>>> not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two 
>>> fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the 
>>> weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that 
>>> was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like 
>>> on IPhones.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
>>> that a bit interesting.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
>>> Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
 
 You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running.
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
> SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
> it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
> for, and it has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like 
> to use an iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Scott. I hope these new unlimited plans are not for new customers only. 
I will have to give their page a look. I assume I should find in there. Right?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> All the modern apple products use the nano SIM so once you have a right sized 
> SIM you can use it between devices.
>T-Mobile will give you a nano SIM for free if you ask nicely you can go 
> that route.  Also I meant to ping you off list, they are offering a bunch of 
> unlimited plans again you may want to give them another call.
> 
> If all this is to much of a headache I have a pile of nano SIMs, I could drop 
> one in the mail.
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we 
>> couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having 
>> to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would 
>> wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. 
>> But if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally 
>> consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is 
>> starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same 
>> as the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate 
>> really. And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current version of 
>> the iPad mini.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and 
>>> I'd imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however 
>>> it will fit the 5S, as I've done it.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
>>> excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
>>> sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
>>> enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into 
>>> the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
 weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  Not 
 just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
 KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
 fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
 not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two 
 fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was the 
 weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that 
 was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just 
 like on IPhones.
 
 Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
 that a bit interesting.
 ---
 Christopher Gilland
 JAWS Certified, 2016.
 Training Instructor.
 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
 Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
 
 
 Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a 
 Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  
> wrote:
> 
> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and 
> running.
> 
> Danny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
>> SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
>> it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
>> for, and it has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like 
>> to use an iPhone se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please co

Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Scott Granados]

Yes, I read something I believe it was on Mac Rumors about certain T-Mobile 
plans being converted to unlimited so I think it’s worth you giving them a call.
I’ll look back through my notifications buffer and see if I still have the 
screen pop.

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Scott. I hope these new unlimited plans are not for new customers 
> only. I will have to give their page a look. I assume I should find in there. 
> Right?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> All the modern apple products use the nano SIM so once you have a right 
>> sized SIM you can use it between devices.
>>   T-Mobile will give you a nano SIM for free if you ask nicely you can go 
>> that route.  Also I meant to ping you off list, they are offering a bunch of 
>> unlimited plans again you may want to give them another call.
>> 
>> If all this is to much of a headache I have a pile of nano SIMs, I could 
>> drop one in the mail.
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we 
>>> couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up 
>>> having to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he 
>>> would wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it 
>>> in. But if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't 
>>> normally consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad 
>>> mini is starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost 
>>> the same as the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real 
>>> estate really. And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current 
>>> version of the iPad mini.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 Yes.  The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and 
 I'd imagine a 6S+.  I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5.  I know however 
 it will fit the 5S, as I've done it.
 
 Chris.
 ---
 Christopher Gilland
 JAWS Certified, 2016.
 Training Instructor.
 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
 
 
 Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But 
 excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not 
 sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy 
 enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into 
 the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's 
> weird about that?  With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all.  
> Not just a dead sim.  I literally had, *no!* sim.  When I tried with both 
> KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two 
> fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it.  Try as I may, it would, 
> not, happen.  As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held 
> two fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt.  It was 
> the weirdest thing I'd ever seen!  So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if 
> that was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, 
> just like on IPhones.
> 
> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found 
> that a bit interesting.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
> 
> 
> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need 
> a Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and 
>> running.
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone 
>>> SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use 
>>> it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card 
>>> for, an

Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Never mind.  You just answered my question.  LOL!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Babcock 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  FYI, this page may be useful, the commands are mostly the same in the pro 
vs,lite.
  
http://icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/amadeus_pro_quick_guide.shtml


  ***
  Michael Babcock
  Consulting Blind entrepreneurs on digital marketing
  Your Own Pay
  Lets Connect On Twitter
  @payown
  Or facebook
  Consulting with Michael Babcock







On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:


No, I ment command+right arrow, the command does a “extend to next marker” 
command, not “select” and this may be why your thinking about including the 
shift key.
Command+Left will extend to previous marker, so yes this would extend to 
the start assuming you don’t insert any markers.




***
Michael Babcock
Consulting Blind entrepreneurs on digital marketing
Your Own Pay
Lets Connect On Twitter
@payown
Or facebook
Consulting with Michael Babcock







  On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Thank you, Mike!  This was incredibly incredibly helpful!  I assume that 
when you said command+right arrow to select to the end of the file, are you 
sure you don't mean shift+command+right arrow?

  Also, would left arrow go from the selection after hitting command+Y to 
the beginning of the audio, for when I want to do the second half?
  ---
  Christopher Gilland
  JAWS Certified, 2016.
  Training Instructor.

  clgillan...@gmail.com
  Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: michael babcock
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


And or get Amadeus light if you want to save some money, use command+G 
to jump to the point, command+Y, to move your insert insertion  point to play 
head, command+right arrow to select to end of file, command+X to cut, command+N 
to make a new document,Command+V to paste into that new document.
HTH


  On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret jr  
wrote:


  Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge 
where you are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the 
file.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV 
user! 


On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK guys,

Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn 
on to an audio CD.

Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can 
use like Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in 
length.  Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is 
the concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even 
then, I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went 
that idea out the window.

Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this 
file, and split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 
minutes.  Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I 
have up to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc 
writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd 
CD.

I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a 
whole session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce 
it out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it 
to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and 
annoying.

One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're 
right.  It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that 
could split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have 
Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm 
a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go 
that route, as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's 
definitely not for the faint of heart.

Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but 
a

Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Is there a place to look up all these keyboard shortcuts?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Babcock 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  No, I ment command+right arrow, the command does a “extend to next marker” 
command, not “select” and this may be why your thinking about including the 
shift key.
  Command+Left will extend to previous marker, so yes this would extend to the 
start assuming you don’t insert any markers.




  ***
  Michael Babcock
  Consulting Blind entrepreneurs on digital marketing
  Your Own Pay
  Lets Connect On Twitter
  @payown
  Or facebook
  Consulting with Michael Babcock







On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Thank you, Mike!  This was incredibly incredibly helpful!  I assume that 
when you said command+right arrow to select to the end of the file, are you 
sure you don't mean shift+command+right arrow?

Also, would left arrow go from the selection after hitting command+Y to the 
beginning of the audio, for when I want to do the second half?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: michael babcock
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  And or get Amadeus light if you want to save some money, use command+G to 
jump to the point, command+Y, to move your insert insertion  point to play 
head, command+right arrow to select to end of file, command+X to cut, command+N 
to make a new document,Command+V to paste into that new document.
  HTH


On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret jr  
wrote:


Easy to solve.  Use Amadeus Pro to split the file.  You can judge where 
you are on the tool bar and that will show you exactly where to split the file.




Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV 
user! 


  On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  OK guys,

  Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

  So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on 
to an audio CD.

  Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can 
use like Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

  The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length. 
 Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.

  Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this 
file, and split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 
minutes.  Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I 
have up to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc 
writing errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd 
CD.

  I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a 
whole session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce 
it out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it 
to the second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and 
annoying.

  One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're 
right.  It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that 
could split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have 
Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm 
a little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

  I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that 
route, as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not 
for the faint of heart.

  Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but 
again, that would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, 
rebouncing, etc.  I just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins 
even, select from there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file 
with a different name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select 
from there to the beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another 
name for the second half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.

  Is there not something that would make it that ea

Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

[Caitlyn Furness]

Do you have status cells turned on?  I am thinking that you have to set this up 
in the braille options of the vo utility on the mac.  Not sure about windows…

Cait

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:38 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Quite Correct, E.T.
> 
> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on either 
> the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  The U, E, B, contractions and so forth 
> appear correctly but I want to see the bold, italic, etc indicators, also.
> 
> I'm going to put in a call to Freedom Scientific, tomorrow.  Hopefully, they 
> can clue me in on how to accomplish this.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 7:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers
> 
>If a braille display is connected to the Mac to be used as a display, it 
> will rely on the Mac for translation. In other words, it matters not how the 
> Focus is set up.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 7/24/2016 7:49 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Mark,
>> 
>> Did you change a setting on the Focus or on the VoiceOVer braille settings?
>> 
>> I did find the binary that does braille translation for the Macintosh 
>> appears to be based on Duxberry if that makes any difference. FS appears to 
>> have moved to LibLouis for their Braille translation in UEB.
>> 
>> 
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Re: using caliber

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Caitlyn,

Oh yes, that will convert to .rtf. However, I got some strange chars and never 
looked into how to express the character set my mac uses or the conversion used 
but there was on a few books a minor problem. They may have been end of line 
chars used in the original. You could also find a while loop to do multiple 
conversions.

Regards,

Gena


> On 24 Jul 2016, at 20:35, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi gina,
> 
> So, if I do it this way, can I specify .rtf instead of pdf?
> 
> the command line might actually be easier then the very roundabout way I’ve 
> been doing this!!
> 
> I really want an rtf file in the end, you see, and I couldn’t choose that for 
> the life of me!  So, what I eventually did was to import the books into 
> caliber so the drm could go away, then I used an online file converter to 
> change them into pdf, then the file went through docuscan to become rtf!  
> what a zoo, eh??
> 
> thanks for the command line way!
> Cait
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Caitlyn,
>> 
>> I’d like to be able to do this too. I thought the only way was to install 
>> the command line tools. Preferences, Advanced. then from the command line:
>> 
>> ebook-convert myBook.awz .pdf
>> 
>> There are many formats and command structures. The above is the most basic 
>> and good for most cases from the command line.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 17:49, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Does anybody have suggestions about how to use the latest version of 
>>> caliber?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to convert some books with it.  I’ve managed to import the 
>>> books, but can’t seem to choose the output type I want-it’s stuck on pub 
>>> and I want pdf..  also, doing a bulk conversion of all the books in my 
>>> library doesn’t seem to work.
>>> 
>>> any help would be great!
>>> 
>>> Cait
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Re: apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

[Caitlyn Furness]

If that somebody could also post that file here, it’d be great!

thanks!
Caitlyn

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
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>   I don’t remember who did the scripts for all the cool things for Apple 
> script for Vo.  But does anyone have a zipped copy they could send to me I 
> need some of those scripts.
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Re: using caliber

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Gina,
I’m running the latest version of caliber.  I can’t find the command line tools 
under the advanced settings-or anywhere in the app, for that matter!  Are you 
using an older version?   If so, which one?

thanks a lot!

Cait

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Caitlyn,
> 
> Oh yes, that will convert to .rtf. However, I got some strange chars and 
> never looked into how to express the character set my mac uses or the 
> conversion used but there was on a few books a minor problem. They may have 
> been end of line chars used in the original. You could also find a while loop 
> to do multiple conversions.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 20:35, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi gina,
>> 
>> So, if I do it this way, can I specify .rtf instead of pdf?
>> 
>> the command line might actually be easier then the very roundabout way I’ve 
>> been doing this!!
>> 
>> I really want an rtf file in the end, you see, and I couldn’t choose that 
>> for the life of me!  So, what I eventually did was to import the books into 
>> caliber so the drm could go away, then I used an online file converter to 
>> change them into pdf, then the file went through docuscan to become rtf!  
>> what a zoo, eh??
>> 
>> thanks for the command line way!
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Caitlyn,
>>> 
>>> I’d like to be able to do this too. I thought the only way was to install 
>>> the command line tools. Preferences, Advanced. then from the command line:
>>> 
>>> ebook-convert myBook.awz .pdf
>>> 
>>> There are many formats and command structures. The above is the most basic 
>>> and good for most cases from the command line.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
 On 23 Jul 2016, at 17:49, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Does anybody have suggestions about how to use the latest version of 
 caliber?
 
 I am trying to convert some books with it.  I’ve managed to import the 
 books, but can’t seem to choose the output type I want-it’s stuck on pub 
 and I want pdf..  also, doing a bulk conversion of all the books in my 
 library doesn’t seem to work.
 
 any help would be great!
 
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Maybe this is a bad answer, but won't ProTools do this?


Ben


On 7/25/2016 8:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK guys,
Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.
So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on 
to an audio CD.
Burning the CD isn't the issue. I have several applications I can use 
like Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.
The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is 
the concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  
Even then, I couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, 
so there went that idea out the window.
Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this 
file, and split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 
80 minutes. Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  
I know I have up to 80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room 
to insure no disc writing errors along the way. Then, what ever is 
left over could go on the 2nd CD.
I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a 
whole session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, 
bounce it out, take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 
again, edit it to the second half, bounce it out... you get the 
idea... it's tedious, and annoying.
One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're 
right.  It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a 
program that could split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and 
easily?  I don't have Amadeus Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if 
you all think it would help.  I'm a little low this month, but if I've 
gotta do it, I've gotta do it.
I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that 
route, as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's 
definitely not for the faint of heart.
Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but 
again, that would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, 
rebouncing, etc.  I just want something open the original file, jump 
to 78 mins even, select from there to the end of the file, and delete, 
savbe that file with a different name, reopen the original file, go to 
78 mins even, select from there to the beginning of the file, delete, 
save the file with another name for the second half, and boom.  
Mission accomplished.

Is there not something that would make it that easy?
Chris.
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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[E.T.]

Scott,
   I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and 
Jane Q. Public do not get this low.


   It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder 
turned on.


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On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t want to 
push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are pretty 
tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is appreciated.  I 
don’t want to ware out my welcome.

I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve 
received on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I 
wanted to thank everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list 
traffic.  I’ve gotten universally supportive messages here and on the eyes free 
android list where I asked the same question and that really does help.

We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone has 
any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic in general 
or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.

I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic traffic.

Scott



On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:

Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I was 
more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew it, but 
after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to get 
here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm not sure 
who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an offer you more 
support and best of luck.
I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some guidance 
with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to get back to 
you as soon as possible.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Scott,
write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. It 
really depends on your goals of course.
Kare



On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the blind 
and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with the federal 
agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even though I know they 
are part of the process.
  I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview rating 
(according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and started on 
site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the position because of 
my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work was right with in my 
experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive references and track 
record to back up that position.  There are no accessibility issues, no parts 
of the job that require vision specifically and the new engineer who started 
the day I did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One 
of the engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party 
and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle and the other 
fellow seemed equally on board.
  I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the most 
mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled on how 
I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new engineer who 
joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t have bothered to 
have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but make sure your own 
staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
  I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if they 
did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in the team 
and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in there, 
especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the 
equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s a 
rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an attorney 
that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  I have deep 
pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to start with the state or federal agency 
I’d like to have someone advising me who knows the right moves to make.  Again, 
I have deep pockets so I don’t think I should have any issue motivating someone 
sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s name at this point but may in the 
future if we don’t get anywhere.  For now anyone who has any ideas of someone 
who could give me good advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.

Thanks
Scott



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Re: El Capitan

[Marie Lyons]

I called disability support and learned it didn’t finish downloading. It’s 
taking it’s own sweet time. The key combination for the application chooser is 
the function key +vo + F1 F1.  Right now it’s at about 77%. That is why nothing 
happened when I clicked on it in the apps folder.

Marie Lyons
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> 
> The downloaded installer should be called 
> " install os x el capitan.app" 
> However if it's in a DMG then you may have to open it to find the .app 
> installer file.
> Try a command o on it and see what happens.
> 
> Otherwise I'd delete the file you have and then try downloading it again  and 
> see what happens.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app store 
> down load” When I click to open it nothing happens.
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marie,
>> 
>> Have  a look in your applications folder for an install OS X el capitan appp 
>> and if it's there click on it to run then hopefully it will start the 
>> install.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>> Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:26 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: El Capitan
>> 
>> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
>> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
>> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
>> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
>> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick to 
>> this? 
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
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Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

That's what I just said, earlier, Ben.  Yeah, it definitely will, but it's kind 
of a pain in the kneck.  PT is a bit overkill for this task.
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  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Burning an Audio CD, but I have a slight delemma


  Maybe this is a bad answer, but won't ProTools do this?




  Ben




  On 7/25/2016 8:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK guys,

Hopefully one of you can help me with getting around this.

So, here's the situation.  I have an mp3 file which I want to burn on to an 
audio CD.

Burning the CD isn't the issue.  I have several applications I can use like 
Anyburn, Simplyburns, etc. for doing that task.

The problem however is, this mp3 file is over 2 hours long in length.  
Obviusly, an audio CD is only going to hold 80 minutes.  OK, there is the 
concept of overburning, but I'm not even touching that one.  LOL!  Even then, I 
couldn't do it to the extreme this would have to be done, so there went that 
idea out the window.

Basically, what I'm therefore seeking is an easy way to take this file, and 
split it into 2 mp3 files both of which would be less than 80 minutes.  
Ideally, I'd like the first disc to be around 78 minutes.  I know I have up to 
80, but I'd rather leave just a bit of wiggle room to insure no disc writing 
errors along the way.  Then, what ever is left over could go on the 2nd CD.

I know I could do this with ProTools, but then I have to create a whole 
session, take that mp3 import it into the session, edit it down, bounce it out, 
take the same mp3, make another session, import the mp3 again, edit it to the 
second half, bounce it out... you get the idea... it's tedious, and annoying.

One may say, that's just part of audio engineering.  Yeah, you're right.  
It is.  I'll give that one to ya, but is there not maybe a program that could 
split it at a marker point a bit more quickly and easily?  I don't have Amadeus 
Pro, but I suppose I could buy it, if you all think it would help.  I'm a 
little low this month, but if I've gotta do it, I've gotta do it.

I also do have Logic Pro X, but I'd really really rather not go that route, 
as to me, Logic is very confusing.  It's doable, but it's definitely not for 
the faint of heart.

Before anyone asks, why not use Garageband, I guess I could, but again, 
that would involve a lot of importing, bouncing, reimporting, rebouncing, etc.  
I just want something open the original file, jump to 78 mins even, select from 
there to the end of the file, and delete, savbe that file with a different 
name, reopen the original file, go to 78 mins even, select from there to the 
beginning of the file, delete, save the file with another name for the second 
half, and boom.  Mission accomplished.

Is there not something that would make it that easy?

Chris.
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Re: El Capitan

[Marie Lyons]

El Capitan is successfully installed on my system! Man it took a long time!

Marie Lyons
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:26 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> 
> If you had an installer file in your trash it wouldn't effect the content of 
> your applications folder.
> 
> As I stated in an earlier email, check to se what type of file the one in 
> your applications is and if it's a DMG then command key and O will open it 
> and with any luck you will find an application installer file in there called:
> "install os x el capitan.app" 
> This is what you click on or command key o on to open and start the 
> installation 
> The update process from apple for an OS not just el capitan this is for any 
> OS X install or update will be put into the applications folder and then run 
> from there.
> 
> Good luck and don't give in without a fight.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
> Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 11:25 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: El Capitan
> 
> I am in the process of emptying the trash. I only have a CD player plugged 
> into my computer. I don’t have an external hard drive.
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:40 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Install OS X El Capitan.app  is the file name and should be 6.22gigs. If 
>> its not in the Applications folder but you cannot download it, there is 
>> either a copy in trash or on a connected external drive. Empty trash and/or 
>> disconnect all external drives.
>> 
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>> 
>> On 7/24/2016 2:05 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
>>> Where would I look beside the app folder for such an app? It isn’t in the 
>>> app folder.
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons
 On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 That will happen if there is an Install OS X anywhere on your system. 
 Disconnect all external drives and delete that file from Applications and 
 dump the trash. Then try again.
 
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 On 7/22/2016 3:25 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick 
> to this?
> 
> Marie Lyons
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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Cheree Heppe]

Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and Jane Q. 
> Public do not get this low.
> 
>   It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder turned 
> on.
> 
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t want 
>> to push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are pretty 
>> tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is appreciated.  
>> I don’t want to ware out my welcome.
>> 
>>I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve received 
>> on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I wanted to 
>> thank everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list traffic.  
>> I’ve gotten universally supportive messages here and on the eyes free 
>> android list where I asked the same question and that really does help.
>> 
>> We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone has 
>> any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic in 
>> general or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.
>> 
>> I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic 
>> traffic.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I was 
>>> more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew it, 
>>> but after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
>>> I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to get 
>>> here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm not 
>>> sure who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an offer you 
>>> more support and best of luck.
>>> I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some 
>>> guidance with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to 
>>> get back to you as soon as possible.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
 write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. 
 It really depends on your goals of course.
 Kare
 
 
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the 
> blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with 
> the federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even 
> though I know they are part of the process.
>  I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and 
> started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the 
> position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This 
> work was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, 
> positive references and track record to back up that position.  There are 
> no accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require vision 
> specifically and the new engineer who started the day I did as well as 
> our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One of the engineers 
> was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party and strongly 
> against discrimination as a matter of principle and the other fellow 
> seemed equally on board.
>  I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
> most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being 
> grilled on how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the 
> new engineer who joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager 
> couldn’t have bothered to have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me 
> questions but make sure your own staff live up to the same standards or 
> am I crazy here?
>  I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if 
> they did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust 
> in the team and work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back 
> in there, especially now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to 
> hire the equivalent of F. Lee Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not 
> sure that’s a rational response either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can 
> refer an attorney that can practice in Mass who is an expert on this 
> subject matter?  I have deep pockets and can pay.  Even if I have to 
> start with the state or federal agency I’d like to have someone advising 
> me who knows the right moves to make

Strange changes Voice Over announces unread messages In Mail OS X

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hello, 

After having some weird changes in the way Voice Over announces unread messages 
in the Mac OS X Mail program, I am wondering if there is some setting or 
condition which explains the behaviour i experienced.

Let me try to explain what changed, without me doing something I think ;)
Until recently Voice Over announced unread for a message in Mail in the 
messagelist, when it was unread. I could navigate through the list and the 
unread messages kept their unread status. This only changed when I opened it to 
read.
Since a few days it has suddenly changed to not announcing unread anymore, 
although the new ones obviously are.
The multiple conversation threads still get unread or not aanounced.
I desperately want the old situation beck, which worked perfect for me.
Anybody know if this can be aacomplished in any way?
I am running El Capitan 10.11.5, the new Mail layout and speechdetail Voice 
Over on medium.

Come to think of it, with my previous Mac running Yosemite and Mavericks the 
unread messages was even different. There Voice Over would announce unread when 
navigating the messagelist, but when going from top down, the unread status 
would disappear. This without opening.

Would like to hear how the situation is on your Macs.

Thanks,
Ronald

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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[E.T.]

   Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We 
are not legal experts.


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On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and Jane Q. 
Public do not get this low.

  It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder turned on.

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On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t want to 
push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are pretty 
tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is appreciated.  I 
don’t want to ware out my welcome.

   I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve received on 
and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I wanted to thank 
everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list traffic.  I’ve gotten 
universally supportive messages here and on the eyes free android list where I 
asked the same question and that really does help.

We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone has 
any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic in general 
or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.

I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic traffic.

Scott



On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:

Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I was 
more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew it, but 
after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to get 
here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm not sure 
who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an offer you more 
support and best of luck.
I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some guidance 
with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to get back to 
you as soon as possible.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Scott,
write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. It 
really depends on your goals of course.
Kare



On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the blind 
and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with the federal 
agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even though I know they 
are part of the process.
 I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview rating 
(according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and started on 
site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the position because of 
my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work was right with in my 
experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive references and track 
record to back up that position.  There are no accessibility issues, no parts 
of the job that require vision specifically and the new engineer who started 
the day I did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One 
of the engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party 
and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle and the other 
fellow seemed equally on board.
 I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the most 
mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled on how 
I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new engineer who 
joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t have bothered to 
have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but make sure your own 
staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
 I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if they did 
come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in the team and 
work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in there, especially 
now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the equivalent of F. Lee 
Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s a rational response 
either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an attorney that can practice in 
Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  I have deep pockets and can pay. 
 Even if I have to start with the state or federal agency I’d like to have 
someone advising me who knows the right moves to make.  Again, I have deep 
pockets so I don’t think I should have any issue motivating someone 
sufficiently.  I won’t mention the company’s name at this point but may in the 
future if we do

Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Cheree Heppe]

Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 13:22, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We are not 
> legal experts.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>> Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and Jane Q. 
>>> Public do not get this low.
>>> 
>>>  It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder turned 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t 
 want to push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are 
 pretty tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is 
 appreciated.  I don’t want to ware out my welcome.
 
   I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve 
 received on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I 
 wanted to thank everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list 
 traffic.  I’ve gotten universally supportive messages here and on the eyes 
 free android list where I asked the same question and that really does 
 help.
 
 We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone 
 has any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic 
 in general or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.
 
 I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic 
 traffic.
 
 Scott
 
 
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I 
> was more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew 
> it, but after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly 
> enough.
> I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to 
> get here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm 
> not sure who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an 
> offer you more support and best of luck.
> I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some 
> guidance with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try 
> to get back to you as soon as possible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some 
>> options. It really depends on your goals of course.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for 
>>> the blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also 
>>> familiar with the federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m 
>>> looking for even though I know they are part of the process.
>>> I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
>>> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract 
>>> and started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for 
>>> the position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  
>>> This work was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work 
>>> history, positive references and track record to back up that position. 
>>>  There are no accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require 
>>> vision specifically and the new engineer who started the day I did as 
>>> well as our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One of the 
>>> engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party 
>>> and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle and the 
>>> other fellow seemed equally on board.
>>> I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
>>> most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being 
>>> grilled on how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with 
>>> the new engineer who joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our 
>>> manager couldn’t have bothered to have been on time.  So go ahead and 
>>> ask me questions but make sure your own staff live up to the same 
>>> standards or am I crazy here?
>>> I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if 
>>> they did come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust 
>>> in the team and work envi

Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Karen Lewellen]

Well that cannot be claimed we have a rather diverse bunch here.  Even 
still  the questions scott shared are illegal  from an employment 
standpoint   have been such for a grand while.
Hidden recordings might be questionable, asking about travel for a job 
that does not require such is  likely not going to be questionable at all.

Kare


On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, E.T. wrote:

  Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We are not 
legal experts.


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On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

 Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.


 Sent from my iPhone

>  On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Scott,
>I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and 
>Jane Q. Public do not get this low.
> 
>It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder 
>turned on.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...

>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> >  On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> >  So I don???t want to respond to this to much, it???s off topic and I 
> >  don???t want to push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark 
> >  and Kara are pretty tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times 
> >  and that is appreciated.  I don???t want to ware out my welcome.
> > 
> > I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I???ve 
> > received on and off list, off list ones I???ll respond to 
> > individually but I wanted to thank everyone here once and hopefully 
> > not take up to much list traffic.  I???ve gotten universally 
> > supportive messages here and on the eyes free android list where I 
> > asked the same question and that really does help.
> > 
> >  We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if 
> >  anyone has any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about 
> >  the topic in general or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.
> > 
> >  I appreciate everyone???s flexibility and understanding for the off 
> >  topic traffic.
> > 
> >  Scott
> > 
> > 
> > >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this 
> > >  time. I was more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to 
> > >  do. They knew it, but after three days they said I was not doing the 
> > >  work quickly enough.
> > >  I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going 
> > >  to get here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. 
> > >  Anyway I'm not sure who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted 
> > >  to write an offer you more support and best of luck.
> > >  I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you 
> > >  some guidance with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, 
> > >  and try to get back to you as soon as possible.
> > > 
> > >  Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen 
> > > >   wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  Hi Scott,
> > > >  write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some 
> > > >  options. It really depends on your goals of course.

> > > >  Kare
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >  On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  I???ll make this quick.  I???m aware of the Massachusetts 
> > > > >  commission for the blind and the commission for equal 
> > > > >  opportunity and I???m also familiar with the federal agency but 
> > > > >  that???s not specifically what I???m looking for even though I 
> > > > >  know they are part of the process.
> > > > >   I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest 
> > > > >   interview rating (according to them), and even though I had 
> > > > >   executed a contract and started on site, come back on day 2 and 
> > > > >   say I ???was unqualified for the position because of my vision 
> > > > >   problem???.  Literally that directly.  This work was right with 
> > > > >   in my experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive 
> > > > >   references and track record to back up that position.  There 
> > > > >   are no accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require 
> > > > >   vision specifically and the new engineer who started the day I 
> > > > >   did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with 
> > > > >   me.  One of the engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode 
> > > > >   Island Libertarian party and strongly against discrimination as 
> > > > >   a matter of principle and the other fellow seemed equally on 
> > > > >   board.
> > > > >   I???m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me 
> > > > >   describe the most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For 
> > > > >   example, I???m being grilled on how I would get to the job site 
> > > > >   when in fact I along with the new engineer who joined me showed 
> > > > 

Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[E.T.]

   Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We 
are not legal experts.


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On 7/25/2016 1:32 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2016, at 13:22, E.T.  wrote:

  Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We are not 
legal experts.

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On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and Jane Q. 
Public do not get this low.

 It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder turned on.

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On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t want to 
push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are pretty 
tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is appreciated.  I 
don’t want to ware out my welcome.

  I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve received on 
and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I wanted to thank 
everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list traffic.  I’ve gotten 
universally supportive messages here and on the eyes free android list where I 
asked the same question and that really does help.

We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone has 
any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic in general 
or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.

I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic traffic.

Scott



On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:

Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I was 
more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew it, but 
after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to get 
here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm not sure 
who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an offer you more 
support and best of luck.
I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some guidance 
with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to get back to 
you as soon as possible.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Scott,
write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some options. It 
really depends on your goals of course.
Kare



On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:

I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the blind 
and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar with the federal 
agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for even though I know they 
are part of the process.
I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview rating 
(according to them), and even though I had executed a contract and started on 
site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for the position because of 
my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  This work was right with in my 
experience and I have 25 years of work history, positive references and track 
record to back up that position.  There are no accessibility issues, no parts 
of the job that require vision specifically and the new engineer who started 
the day I did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One 
of the engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party 
and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle and the other 
fellow seemed equally on board.
I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the most 
mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being grilled on how 
I would get to the job site when in fact I along with the new engineer who 
joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our manager couldn’t have bothered to 
have been on time.  So go ahead and ask me questions but make sure your own 
staff live up to the same standards or am I crazy here?
I’m struggling whether to just let HR do their thing although even if they did 
come back and offer me the position back I have lost all trust in the team and 
work environment. I don’t know that I’d want to walk back in there, especially 
now.  On the other hand a big part of me wants to hire the equivalent of F. Lee 
Bailey and bleed the company dry.  I’m not sure that’s a rational response 
either.  So I’m wondering if anyone can refer an attorney that can practice in 
Mass who is an expert on this subject matter?  I have deep

Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi ET,
In most cases that I know about all you half to do is to "transcribe" the audio.
in other words what I've done in the past is to type the whole conversation 
into a text document.
A transcript of the conversation not audio which has different laws pertaining 
to whether you notified the other party or not.
Before you all get to excited remember!
YMMV
talk soon
Chuck

On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T. wrote:

>   Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We are not 
> legal experts.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>> Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and Jane Q. 
>>> Public do not get this low.
>>> 
>>>  It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder turned 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t 
 want to push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are 
 pretty tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is 
 appreciated.  I don’t want to ware out my welcome.
 
   I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve 
 received on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I 
 wanted to thank everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list 
 traffic.  I’ve gotten universally supportive messages here and on the eyes 
 free android list where I asked the same question and that really does 
 help.
 
 We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone 
 has any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic 
 in general or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.
 
 I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic 
 traffic.
 
 Scott
 
 
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I 
> was more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew 
> it, but after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly 
> enough.
> I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to 
> get here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm 
> not sure who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an 
> offer you more support and best of luck.
> I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some 
> guidance with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try 
> to get back to you as soon as possible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some 
>> options. It really depends on your goals of course.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for 
>>> the blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also 
>>> familiar with the federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m 
>>> looking for even though I know they are part of the process.
>>> I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
>>> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract 
>>> and started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for 
>>> the position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  
>>> This work was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work 
>>> history, positive references and track record to back up that position. 
>>>  There are no accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require 
>>> vision specifically and the new engineer who started the day I did as 
>>> well as our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One of the 
>>> engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party 
>>> and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle and the 
>>> other fellow seemed equally on board.
>>> I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
>>> most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being 
>>> grilled on how I would get to the job site when in fact I along with 
>>> the new engineer who joined me showed up 15 minutes early and our 
>>> manager couldn’t have bothered to have been on time.  So go ahead and 
>>> ask me quest

Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[E.T.]

   We may be a diverse bunch but when it comes to serious issues such 
as this, wanna be legal experts do not fly too well.


   Even if this sort of thing is not admissible, it can still provide a 
backdrop should there be a case brought forward.


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On 7/25/2016 1:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Well that cannot be claimed we have a rather diverse bunch here.  Even
still  the questions scott shared are illegal  from an employment
standpoint   have been such for a grand while.
Hidden recordings might be questionable, asking about travel for a job
that does not require such is  likely not going to be questionable at all.
Kare


On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, E.T. wrote:


  Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We
are not legal experts.

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On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

 Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.


 Sent from my iPhone

>  On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
> >  Scott,
>I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John
and >Jane Q. Public do not get this low.
> >It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice
recorder >turned on.
> >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > >  On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> >  So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I
> >  don’t want to push the envelope any more than I already do.
Mark > >  and Kara are pretty tolerant of my special brand of
insanity at times > >  and that is appreciated.  I don’t want to ware
out my welcome.
> > > > I did however want to say thank you for the many kind
words I’ve > > received on and off list, off list ones I’ll
respond to > > individually but I wanted to thank everyone here
once and hopefully > > not take up to much list traffic.  I’ve
gotten universally > > supportive messages here and on the eyes
free android list where I > > asked the same question and that
really does help.
> > > >  We should go back to our usually apple based conversations
but if > >  anyone has any other specific suggestions or just wants
to talk about > >  the topic in general or has other ideas feel free
to ping me off list.
> > > >  I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for
the off > >  topic traffic.
> > > >  Scott
> > > > > > >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith
 > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >  Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago
at this > > >  time. I was more than qualified to do the work that I
was hired to > > >  do. They knew it, but after three days they said
I was not doing the > > >  work quickly enough.
> > >  I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you
going > > >  to get here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know
the drill. > > >  Anyway I'm not sure who to refer you to for any
legal help. I wanted > > >  to write an offer you more support and
best of luck.
> > >  I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give
you > > >  some guidance with the situation. I will contact her this
afternoon, > > >  and try to get back to you as soon as possible.
> > > > > >  Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen > > > >
 wrote:
> > > > > > > >  Hi Scott,
> > > >  write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to
some > > > >  options. It really depends on your goals of course.
> > > >  Kare
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >  I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the
Massachusetts > > > > >  commission for the blind and the commission
for equal > > > > >  opportunity and I’m also familiar with the
federal agency but > > > > >  that’s not specifically what I’m
looking for even though I > > > > >  know they are part of the process.
> > > > >   I recently had an employer, after I had received the
highest > > > > >   interview rating (according to them), and even
though I had > > > > >   executed a contract and started on site,
come back on day 2 and > > > > >   say I “was unqualified for the
position because of my vision > > > > >   problem”.  Literally that
directly.  This work was right with > > > > >   in my experience and
I have 25 years of work history, positive > > > > >   references and
track record to back up that position.  There > > > > >   are no
accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require > > > > >
vision specifically and the new engineer who started the day I > > >
> >   did as well as our manager all seemed fine with working with >
> > > >   me.  One of the engineers was also highly placed in the
Rhode > > > > >   Island Libertarian party and strongly against
discrimination as > > > > >   a matter of principle and the other
fellow seemed equally on > > > > >   board.
> > > > >   I’m being jerked ar

Re: Strange changes Voice Over announces unread messages In Mail OS X

[sonar mate]

Hi,


Do yo0u by chance have the preview pain shown?  If so, then what is 
happening is that the messages are getting marked as read as you arrow 
through there message list.  You can turn this off by interacting with 
the spliter between the message list and the message viewer.  Make sure 
it is set to 100% and then stop interacting with it and now you should 
be all set.



Matthew




On 07/25/2016 04:16 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hello,

After having some weird changes in the way Voice Over announces unread messages 
in the Mac OS X Mail program, I am wondering if there is some setting or 
condition which explains the behaviour i experienced.

Let me try to explain what changed, without me doing something I think ;)
Until recently Voice Over announced unread for a message in Mail in the 
messagelist, when it was unread. I could navigate through the list and the 
unread messages kept their unread status. This only changed when I opened it to 
read.
Since a few days it has suddenly changed to not announcing unread anymore, 
although the new ones obviously are.
The multiple conversation threads still get unread or not aanounced.
I desperately want the old situation beck, which worked perfect for me.
Anybody know if this can be aacomplished in any way?
I am running El Capitan 10.11.5, the new Mail layout and speechdetail Voice 
Over on medium.

Come to think of it, with my previous Mac running Yosemite and Mavericks the 
unread messages was even different. There Voice Over would announce unread when 
navigating the messagelist, but when going from top down, the unread status 
would disappear. This without opening.

Would like to hear how the situation is on your Macs.

Thanks,
Ronald



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RE: To Unified English Braille Readers

[M. Taylor]

Jason,

If you are correct, then I am completely appalled, as the primary argument for 
adopting the U, E, B, in the first place, was so that, among other things, 
fonts could be accurately identified and proofed, in Braille.

Moreover, even though we here in the United States have only recently adopted 
the U, E, B code, it has been in effect in many English speaking countries 
around the world for quite some time and I cannot believe such an issue has not 
been resolved.

Mark

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

M. Taylor  wrote:
> Quite Correct, E.T.
> 
> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on either 
> the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  


I am not aware of any screen reader that supports this feature. They should all 
support it, and not just with UEB.

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RE: To Unified English Braille Readers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jonathan,

U, E, B type form indicators do not require the use of any additional dots.  In 
fact, they are based on a 6-dot Braille cell.  

For example, In the sentence, "I am the cheese," where "cheese" is bolded, the 
U, E, B display would be as follows:
"I am the [dots 45, 5] cheese," where dots 45, 5 would appear in the two cells 
immediately preceding the word in question.

I spoke to a Freedom Scientific representative today, who, like me, could not 
get the indicator to appear.  All he could do was to get the word in question, 
marked with dots 36 via the Braille Markings settings in Jaws.  

I have escalated this matter to those higher on the proverbial food chain at 
Freedom Scientific.  

As Jonathan Mosen is a member of this community, perhaps he will shed some 
light on this subject, for us.

Mark 

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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

 it only supports got 7 and8. For Jaws there an attributes area of settings 
center, but i believe

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:04 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Quite Correct, E.T.
>> 
>> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on either 
>> the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  
> 
> 
> I am not aware of any screen reader that supports this feature. They 
> should all support it, and not just with UEB.
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RE: To Unified English Braille Readers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Caitlyn,

Yes, I have tried almost every configuration I can think of, including enabling 
Status cells in the VoiceOver Utility.  

Mark

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On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

Do you have status cells turned on?  I am thinking that you have to set this up 
in the braille options of the vo utility on the mac.  Not sure about windows…

Cait

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:38 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Quite Correct, E.T.
> 
> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on either 
> the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  The U, E, B, contractions and so forth 
> appear correctly but I want to see the bold, italic, etc indicators, also.
> 
> I'm going to put in a call to Freedom Scientific, tomorrow.  Hopefully, they 
> can clue me in on how to accomplish this.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 7:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers
> 
>If a braille display is connected to the Mac to be used as a display, it 
> will rely on the Mac for translation. In other words, it matters not how the 
> Focus is set up.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 7/24/2016 7:49 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Mark,
>> 
>> Did you change a setting on the Focus or on the VoiceOVer braille settings?
>> 
>> I did find the binary that does braille translation for the Macintosh 
>> appears to be based on Duxberry if that makes any difference. FS appears to 
>> have moved to LibLouis for their Braille translation in UEB.
>> 
>> 
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Re: apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

[Alex Hall]

Here's the link. Remember that, for reasons I've never discovered, the 
time/date script fails, as does the ram script. Ram I'm not worried about, as 
changes in the way 10.9 and newer manage it render the numbers not very useful. 
Time/date is oddly broken and I don't yet know why. The rest *should* work.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip
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> If that somebody could also post that file here, it’d be great!
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
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>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
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>>  I don’t remember who did the scripts for all the cool things for Apple 
>> script for Vo.  But does anyone have a zipped copy they could send to me I 
>> need some of those scripts.
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Re: apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

[Scott Berry]

Alex,

Thank you very much.


> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Here's the link. Remember that, for reasons I've never discovered, the 
> time/date script fails, as does the ram script. Ram I'm not worried about, as 
> changes in the way 10.9 and newer manage it render the numbers not very 
> useful. Time/date is oddly broken and I don't yet know why. The rest *should* 
> work.
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> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 13:27, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
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>> If that somebody could also post that file here, it’d be great!
>> 
>> thanks!
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t remember who did the scripts for all the cool things for Apple 
>>> script for Vo.  But does anyone have a zipped copy they could send to me I 
>>> need some of those scripts.
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Re: apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

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how can i use the skripps

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Re: apple scripts for battery percentage and other things

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   All you need to know is supplied in that archive.

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On 7/25/2016 8:19 PM, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries wrote:

how can i use the skripps



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Re: El Capitan

[Scott Granados]

It’s a big file, if you have a slow internet connection some of these updates 
take a long time.

Glad it installed for you.

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> El Capitan is successfully installed on my system! Man it took a long time!
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:26 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marie,
>> 
>> If you had an installer file in your trash it wouldn't effect the content of 
>> your applications folder.
>> 
>> As I stated in an earlier email, check to se what type of file the one in 
>> your applications is and if it's a DMG then command key and O will open it 
>> and with any luck you will find an application installer file in there 
>> called:
>> "install os x el capitan.app" 
>> This is what you click on or command key o on to open and start the 
>> installation 
>> The update process from apple for an OS not just el capitan this is for any 
>> OS X install or update will be put into the applications folder and then run 
>> from there.
>> 
>> Good luck and don't give in without a fight.
>> 
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>> Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 11:25 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: El Capitan
>> 
>> I am in the process of emptying the trash. I only have a CD player plugged 
>> into my computer. I don’t have an external hard drive.
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:40 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Install OS X El Capitan.app  is the file name and should be 6.22gigs. If 
>>> its not in the Applications folder but you cannot download it, there is 
>>> either a copy in trash or on a connected external drive. Empty trash and/or 
>>> disconnect all external drives.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 7/24/2016 2:05 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
 Where would I look beside the app folder for such an app? It isn’t in the 
 app folder.
 
 Marie Lyons
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> That will happen if there is an Install OS X anywhere on your system. 
> Disconnect all external drives and delete that file from Applications and 
> dump the trash. Then try again.
> 
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> On 7/22/2016 3:25 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:
>> I had some time today where I didn’t need to use my mac so I decided to 
>> download and install the upgrade. It kept pausing and when it only had a 
>> minute to go I went and did something else. As it turns out I still have 
>> Yosemite. I went back to the app store and attempted the download again. 
>> Nothing happened. Then the download link was dimmed. Is there some trick 
>> to this?
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
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Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Scott Granados]

So as I understand it, it depends on the state.  You’re basically right though. 
 It’s the whole Linda Trip thing right?  She recorded Monica detailing how she 
Luinskyed bubba Clinton and got the stain on her dress.  As I recall Linda Trip 
got in legal trouble for making the recordings.  There has to be a beep in some 
states or not at all in others and then there’s the whole assumption of privacy 
thing where if I record someone on a phone call that’s a problem but if I 
record them in the public square that’s quite another.  A lot of issues around 
the idea of recording from notification of third parties to recording of public 
officials like law enforcement while in the public view and so on and so forth. 
 If you’re in public you should assume you’re always being recorded and in full 
view, if you’re on your phone that’s a whole different matter.

I think that’s what it boils down to.


> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
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> Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>>  I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and Jane Q. 
>> Public do not get this low.
>> 
>>  It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder turned 
>> on.
>> 
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>>> On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I don’t want 
>>> to push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark and Kara are pretty 
>>> tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times and that is appreciated.  
>>> I don’t want to ware out my welcome.
>>> 
>>>   I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words I’ve received 
>>> on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond to individually but I wanted to 
>>> thank everyone here once and hopefully not take up to much list traffic.  
>>> I’ve gotten universally supportive messages here and on the eyes free 
>>> android list where I asked the same question and that really does help.
>>> 
>>> We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if anyone 
>>> has any other specific suggestions or just wants to talk about the topic in 
>>> general or has other ideas feel free to ping me off list.
>>> 
>>> I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off topic 
>>> traffic.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith  wrote:
 
 Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at this time. I 
 was more than qualified to do the work that I was hired to do. They knew 
 it, but after three days they said I was not doing the work quickly enough.
 I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going to 
 get here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the drill. Anyway I'm 
 not sure who to refer you to for any legal help. I wanted to write an 
 offer you more support and best of luck.
 I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you some 
 guidance with the situation. I will contact her this afternoon, and try to 
 get back to you as soon as possible.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen  
> wrote:
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> Hi Scott,
> write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some 
> options. It really depends on your goals of course.
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts commission for the 
>> blind and the commission for equal opportunity and I’m also familiar 
>> with the federal agency but that’s not specifically what I’m looking for 
>> even though I know they are part of the process.
>> I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest interview 
>> rating (according to them), and even though I had executed a contract 
>> and started on site, come back on day 2 and say I “was unqualified for 
>> the position because of my vision problem”.  Literally that directly.  
>> This work was right with in my experience and I have 25 years of work 
>> history, positive references and track record to back up that position.  
>> There are no accessibility issues, no parts of the job that require 
>> vision specifically and the new engineer who started the day I did as 
>> well as our manager all seemed fine with working with me.  One of the 
>> engineers was also highly placed in the Rhode Island Libertarian party 
>> and strongly against discrimination as a matter of principle and the 
>> other fellow seemed equally on board.
>> I’m being jerked around by an HR person who is making me describe the 
>> most mundane things that I would accomplish.  For example, I’m being 
>> grilled on how I would get to the

Re: OT: need referral for a top shelf labor law attorney in the Boston area

[Scott Granados]

I played it very carefully because if you start recording and doing crazy 
things that can have negative ramifications.  The advice I got before I met 
with my attorney was play it by ear, listen to what they have to say, offer 
nothing and we’ll review during our meeting.  That sounded reasonable to me.

I think the fact it’s a contract for services and there’s a specific EEOC rider 
will also work in my favor but we’ll see.

No matter what, I really do appreciate everyone’s support.
 

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:32 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Well that cannot be claimed we have a rather diverse bunch here.  Even still  
> the questions scott shared are illegal  from an employment standpoint   have 
> been such for a grand while.
> Hidden recordings might be questionable, asking about travel for a job that 
> does not require such is  likely not going to be questionable at all.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, E.T. wrote:
> 
>>  Maybe, maybe not. That would be for a legal team to determine. We are not 
>> legal experts.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 7/25/2016 1:12 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>>> Recorded messages of that nature are inadmissible as evidence.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:12, E.T.  wrote:
>>> > >  Scott,
>>> >I am floored by the type of questions HR was asking. Even John and >   
>>> >  Jane Q. Public do not get this low.
>>> > >It's too bad you did not see this coming and have a voice recorder > 
>>> > >turned on.
>>> > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> >  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> >  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> > > >  On 7/25/2016 8:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> > >  So I don’t want to respond to this to much, it’s off topic and I > >  
>>> > > don’t want to push the envelope any more than I already do.  Mark > >  
>>> > > and Kara are pretty tolerant of my special brand of insanity at times > 
>>> > > >  and that is appreciated.  I don’t want to ware out my welcome.
>>> > > > > I did however want to say thank you for the many kind words 
>>> > > > > I’ve > > received on and off list, off list ones I’ll respond 
>>> > > > > to > > individually but I wanted to thank everyone here once 
>>> > > > > and hopefully > > not take up to much list traffic.  I’ve 
>>> > > > > gotten universally > > supportive messages here and on the eyes 
>>> > > > > free android list where I > > asked the same question and that 
>>> > > > > really does help.
>>> > > > >  We should go back to our usually apple based conversations but if 
>>> > > > > > >  anyone has any other specific suggestions or just wants to 
>>> > > > > talk about > >  the topic in general or has other ideas feel free 
>>> > > > > to ping me off list.
>>> > > > >  I appreciate everyone’s flexibility and understanding for the off 
>>> > > > > > >  topic traffic.
>>> > > > >  Scott
>>> > > > > > > >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Ann Smith 
>>> > > > > > > >  > > >  wrote:
>>> > > > > > >  Good morning, I could've written your post 22 years ago at 
>>> > > > > > > this > > >  time. I was more than qualified to do the work that 
>>> > > > > > > I was hired to > > >  do. They knew it, but after three days 
>>> > > > > > > they said I was not doing the > > >  work quickly enough.
>>> > > >  I have been through the same thing. They would ask how are you going 
>>> > > > > > >  to get here if you're blind, who dresses you, you know the 
>>> > > > drill. > > >  Anyway I'm not sure who to refer you to for any legal 
>>> > > > help. I wanted > > >  to write an offer you more support and best of 
>>> > > > luck.
>>> > > >  I might know of someone that my direct me to someone to give you > > 
>>> > > > >  some guidance with the situation. I will contact her this 
>>> > > > afternoon, > > >  and try to get back to you as soon as possible.
>>> > > > > > >  Sent from my iPhone
>>> > > > > > > >  On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Karen Lewellen > > > >  
>>> > > > > > > >  wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > >  Hi Scott,
>>> > > > >  write me off list about this and perhaps I can direct you to some 
>>> > > > > > > > >  options. It really depends on your goals of course.
>>> > > > >  Kare
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >  I’ll make this quick.  I’m aware of the Massachusetts 
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  commission for the blind and the commission 
>>> > > > > > > > > > > for equal > > > > >  opportunity and I’m also familiar 
>>> > > > > > > > > > > with the federal agency but > > > > >  that’s not 
>>> > > > > > > > > > > specifically what I’m looking for even though I > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >  know they are part of the process.
>>> > > > > >   I recently had an employer, after I had received the highest > 
>>> > > > > > > > > >   interview rating (according to them), and even though I 
>>> > > > > > had > > > > >   executed a contract and starte

if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please right to me off list?

[Michael Marshall]

hey,
since we can not talk or ask questions about the betas of IOS or mac OS because 
of the ridiculous MDA i'm asking if any testers could contact me off list?
I wish to compare notes on some things that i have found.

thanks for any help

Michael

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RE: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah Chris,

 When I started up my phones, it prompted for a sim but once up and running it 
works if you take the sim card out but does say that the sim has been removed 
which I for one just ignore.

  

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2016 12:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

Uh, news for you.  I have an IPhone 6+ over here with no sim, and it's not 
prompting me that there is no sim installed.  And yes, this is a sim based 
network phone which initially was through AT&T.  It's not jailbroken, no sim 
unlock, nothing.  It's jsut as it was from the AT&T store... no beta build 
installed of iOS, nothing.

I wonder why for you, it would tell you that.

Maybe I'm confused.

Are you saying it pops up and nags you of this, or are you saying it says this 
on the main lock sfcreen only.  If the ladder, then yes.  You're right. 
I guess I'm thinking you're meaning it's constantly popping up a notification 
telling you this.
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From: "Simon Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:31 AM
Subject: RE: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card


Hi mary,

 I think this depends on where you get it from on the planet,

  You do have to put a sim card in an iPhone to get it up and running 
otherwise it tells you that there is no sim card and spits the dummy.

 However once you have it up and running you can take the sim out and use 
the phone for other things but it will still tell you that the sim is 
missing

Unlike android devices which don't really care so long as they havea wifi 
connection they can get data on.
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Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 1:56 PM
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Subject: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card

I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, 
and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is 
that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it 
has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone 
se  as an iPod.  Is that possible?

Sent from my iPhone

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