Iphone slow on wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
I hope someone can clear things out for me.
I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
Now to the strange issue.
When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal service 
which decides how operators should work and so on.
I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
and 11mbps upload.
Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
their site.
Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does not 
give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
Any ideas?
/A

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Re: Suggestions for anti-virus

[Gerry Cook]

Hi avera is rated well when i googled not so long ago, and it supposed to be 
accessible to, I tried avast but didn’t like it at all a crappy interface and 
voiceover lost focus when you wanted, to set preferences you wanted, i’m using 
clamxav at the moment and its doing Its good to know there’s a few options out 
their.. Take care. the job, 
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> On 2 Feb 2016, at 6:32 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> www.sophos.com 
>  
> will get you to their main page I believe.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 4:08 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Suggestions for anti-virus
>  
> Do you have a link to Sophos, if it’s good at what it’s supposed to do i’m 
> interested.
> /Krister
>  
> 1 feb. 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev jeff `greene  >:
>  
> Hi, I've been using Sophos Free Antivirus for the last year and really
> like it. Its very accessible with VO. I used to use virus barrior
> express from the app store but it froze and crashed a lot.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 2/1/16, Ray Foret Jr  > wrote:
> 
> First, yes, you really need one.
> Second, I'm using ClamXAV and have had no issues at all.  It 
> costs
> nowadays, but, it's quite nice in the accessibility department and I'd
> recommend it.  Without knowing which one caused you the trouble, however,
> it's a little hard to make recommendations though.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:45 AM, N2KPV  > wrote:
> 
> Hello, I will try to make a long story short. I have been a mac user since
> 2011 and have been using a well known anti-virus with no problems . In
> October I updated to El Capitan and my hardrive failed . After hours on
> the phone and repeated trips to the Apple store they were able to get me
> running again by removing the anti-virus program . I am a little hesitant
> about putting the same program back into my mac.  I was wondering if
> anyone on the list has any anti-virus suggestions and do I really need one
> ?
> 
> Thanks in advance ,,Ben C
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hello,
I’ve seen this before. If you’re not using it, try turning off Bluetooth 
whenever you’re not using it, and try testing again. As strange as it sounds, 
it works. At least, it did for me. So, hopefully, if you do this on all your 
devices you are having problems with, this will fix it for you. :) If not, try 
resetting network settings in Settings/General/Reset/Reset Network Settings, I 
think it is.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
> two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
> Now to the strange issue.
> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
> and 11mbps upload.
> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
> their site.
> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
> Any ideas?
> /A
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a hard 
wired device to be more efficient.

Gena

> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
> two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
> Now to the strange issue.
> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
> and 11mbps upload.
> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
> their site.
> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
> Any ideas?
> /A
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Re: Suggestions for anti-virus

[Gerry Cook]

sorry about those typos at the end. 
cheers gerry have a nice day
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> On 2 Feb 2016, at 10:09 PM, Gerry Cook  wrote:
> 
> Hi avera is rated well when i googled not so long ago, and it supposed to be 
> accessible to, I tried avast but didn’t like it at all a crappy interface and 
> voiceover lost focus when you wanted, to set preferences you wanted, i’m 
> using clamxav at the moment and its doing Its good to know there’s a few 
> options out their.. Take care. the job, 
> cheers gerry have a nice day
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> 
>> On 2 Feb 2016, at 6:32 PM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> www.sophos.com 
>>  
>> will get you to their main page I believe.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 4:08 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Suggestions for anti-virus
>>  
>> Do you have a link to Sophos, if it’s good at what it’s supposed to do i’m 
>> interested.
>> /Krister
>>  
>> 1 feb. 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev jeff `greene > >:
>>  
>> Hi, I've been using Sophos Free Antivirus for the last year and really
>> like it. Its very accessible with VO. I used to use virus barrior
>> express from the app store but it froze and crashed a lot.
>> Hope this helps! Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/1/16, Ray Foret Jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> First, yes, you really need one.
>> Second, I'm using ClamXAV and have had no issues at all.  It 
>> costs
>> nowadays, but, it's quite nice in the accessibility department and I'd
>> recommend it.  Without knowing which one caused you the trouble, however,
>> it's a little hard to make recommendations though.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:45 AM, N2KPV > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, I will try to make a long story short. I have been a mac user since
>> 2011 and have been using a well known anti-virus with no problems . In
>> October I updated to El Capitan and my hardrive failed . After hours on
>> the phone and repeated trips to the Apple store they were able to get me
>> running again by removing the anti-virus program . I am a little hesitant
>> about putting the same program back into my mac.  I was wondering if
>> anyone on the list has any anti-virus suggestions and do I really need one
>> ?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance ,,Ben C
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iPhoto is open at startup

[Kristeen Hughes]

I have a friend who has this problem. She doesn’t know how it happened and 
asked me how she could fix it. I help her with her Mac a lot. I don’t know 
where to look for what is loading at startup. I did at one time, but have 
forgotten, apparently. Can someone help?

Kristeen

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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Scott Granados]

What type of iPhone is this?  What band are you using 2.4 or ughz and is this 
802.11N or AC or B/G?  Would like to know a bit more about the setup.  The 
airports you’re using are very capable across bands so it depends on the 
specific iPhone you have.

Since it’s apple all the way though I would have expected more performance.


> On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a hard 
> wired device to be more efficient.
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
>> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
>> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
>> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
>> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
>> two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
>> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
>> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
>> Now to the strange issue.
>> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
>> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
>> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
>> and 11mbps upload.
>> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
>> their site.
>> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
>> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
>> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
>> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
>> Any ideas?
>> /A
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Re: iPhoto is open at startup

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I'd start with System Preferences then Users & Groups then check the 
Login Items tab which lists all the apps set to launch when you log in.


CB

On 2/2/16 8:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:

I have a friend who has this problem. She doesn’t know how it happened and 
asked me how she could fix it. I help her with her Mac a lot. I don’t know 
where to look for what is loading at startup. I did at one time, but have 
forgotten, apparently. Can someone help?

Kristeen



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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Then i have to reset network settings.
I turned off bluetooth on my ipod with no luck.
/A
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 12:35, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I’ve seen this before. If you’re not using it, try turning off Bluetooth 
> whenever you’re not using it, and try testing again. As strange as it sounds, 
> it works. At least, it did for me. So, hopefully, if you do this on all your 
> devices you are having problems with, this will fix it for you. :) If not, 
> try resetting network settings in Settings/General/Reset/Reset Network 
> Settings, I think it is.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
>> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
>> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
>> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
>> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
>> two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
>> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
>> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
>> Now to the strange issue.
>> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
>> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
>> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
>> and 11mbps upload.
>> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
>> their site.
>> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
>> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
>> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
>> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
>> Any ideas?
>> /A
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The mac is wifi connected.
/A
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 12:37, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a hard 
> wired device to be more efficient.
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
>> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
>> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
>> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
>> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and the 
>> two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
>> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
>> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out well.
>> Now to the strange issue.
>> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
>> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
>> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download speed 
>> and 11mbps upload.
>> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
>> their site.
>> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
>> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
>> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
>> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
>> Any ideas?
>> /A
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have an Iphone 6 S so its the latest.
Regarding the bands i am not sure  as i have set my airports to use automatic 
radio channels.
But maybe this wasn’t that good?
/A
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 14:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> What type of iPhone is this?  What band are you using 2.4 or ughz and is this 
> 802.11N or AC or B/G?  Would like to know a bit more about the setup.  The 
> airports you’re using are very capable across bands so it depends on the 
> specific iPhone you have.
> 
> Since it’s apple all the way though I would have expected more performance.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a hard 
>> wired device to be more efficient.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
>>> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
>>> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
>>> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
>>> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and 
>>> the two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express is 
>>> connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
>>> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out 
>>> well.
>>> Now to the strange issue.
>>> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
>>> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
>>> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download 
>>> speed and 11mbps upload.
>>> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test on 
>>> their site.
>>> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the apartment.
>>> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
>>> not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
>>> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> /A
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Scott Granados]

Could be interference but you’d think your Mac would be impacted also depending 
if they are in similar places in the house.

I’m leaning towards interference but the Mac is making me question that.

> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have an Iphone 6 S so its the latest.
> Regarding the bands i am not sure  as i have set my airports to use automatic 
> radio channels.
> But maybe this wasn’t that good?
> /A
>> On 02 Feb 2016, at 14:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> What type of iPhone is this?  What band are you using 2.4 or ughz and is 
>> this 802.11N or AC or B/G?  Would like to know a bit more about the setup.  
>> The airports you’re using are very capable across bands so it depends on the 
>> specific iPhone you have.
>> 
>> Since it’s apple all the way though I would have expected more performance.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a 
>>> hard wired device to be more efficient.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
 I hope someone can clear things out for me.
 I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
 The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
 I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and 
 the two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express 
 is connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
 SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out 
 well.
 Now to the strange issue.
 When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
 service which decides how operators should work and so on.
 I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download 
 speed and 11mbps upload.
 Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test 
 on their site.
 Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the 
 apartment.
 I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it does 
 not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
 The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
 Any ideas?
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Is Java safe to install in Windows VM's?

[Phil Halton]

I am using a website that relies on Adobe flash player and Java applets. I 
remember from the days of windows before I went completely over to mac that 
Java was replete with security holes. I remember it was recommended to 
uninstall  java for a while there. Has it been fixed to the point where it's OK 
to install Java in your Internet explorer browser without exposure to a lot of 
security risks?


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Re: Is Java safe to install in Windows VM's?

[Scott Granados]

You can’t use internet explorer with out security risks.:)

One of the benefits of using a VM is you can contain the damage so it’s a 
little less critical.  Now if this is your VM you do all your banking from and 
such I wouldn’t recommend it but the advantage of VMs is you can spin up all 
you need with out the expense of physical hardware and resources.  So are there 
security issues yes, are they a problem for you, probably not since you’re 
limiting the blast radius by being with a VM.  Maybe someone more development 
minded would respond with greater clue but if it were me I’d say this is the 
reason or a reason we use VMs to help keep isolated environments.

How’s that?

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> I am using a website that relies on Adobe flash player and Java applets. I 
> remember from the days of windows before I went completely over to mac that 
> Java was replete with security holes. I remember it was recommended to 
> uninstall  java for a while there. Has it been fixed to the point where it's 
> OK to install Java in your Internet explorer browser without exposure to a 
> lot of security risks?
> 
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Activity Monitor

[Daniel Chavez]

Hello list,
I'm wondering why does activity monitor show processes that are no longer 
opened?
For instance, calculator was once opened, I closed it, but activity monitor 
still shows it.
I try and reload VO, just in case, but it doesn't help.
Any workaround for this?
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Re: Activity Monitor

[Scott Granados]

Did you close the calculator by quitting or minimizing or how?

In unix operating systems the process ID will still appear if it’s running in 
the background or running gathering connections etc.

> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
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> Hello list,
> I'm wondering why does activity monitor show processes that are no longer 
> opened?
> For instance, calculator was once opened, I closed it, but activity monitor 
> still shows it.
> I try and reload VO, just in case, but it doesn't help.
> Any workaround for this?
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Re: Activity Monitor

[Daniel Chavez]

I quit calculator with CMD+Q.
To double-check, I went to the application chooser and window chooser and 
calculator wasn't there, yet activity monitor shows it still.

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Re: dragging an dropping with voiceover

[gkearney]

Here is how it can be done:

1. Navigate to the object to be dropped.
2. Press VO-comma on the object   
3. Navigate to the location to drop the object.
4. Press VO-period.

At this point the system will move the mouse cursor to the object and then 
move and drop the object at the location choosen in step 3. You need to 
wait for this to take place when finished when done you will hear a notice 
telling you what happened.

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:21:51 UTC-8, walter wrote:
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> Hello all, 
> How do you drag a drop with voiceover?  I know sighted people do it 
> different. 
> Is this possible with voiceover? 
> Walter 

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Re: Suggestions for anti-virus

[Ben Constantini]

Hi All , thanks for all the great input .  Last night I tried installing  
Sophos . It seemed very simple to install and easy to use . I will report back 
after using it for a while .

Thanks again ,  Ben C 


> On Feb 2, 2016, at 2:32 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> www.sophos.com 
>  
> will get you to their main page I believe.
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
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> Subject: Re: Suggestions for anti-virus
>  
> Do you have a link to Sophos, if it’s good at what it’s supposed to do i’m 
> interested.
> /Krister
>  
> 1 feb. 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev jeff `greene  >:
>  
> Hi, I've been using Sophos Free Antivirus for the last year and really
> like it. Its very accessible with VO. I used to use virus barrior
> express from the app store but it froze and crashed a lot.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 2/1/16, Ray Foret Jr  > wrote:
> 
> First, yes, you really need one.
> Second, I'm using ClamXAV and have had no issues at all.  It 
> costs
> nowadays, but, it's quite nice in the accessibility department and I'd
> recommend it.  Without knowing which one caused you the trouble, however,
> it's a little hard to make recommendations though.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:45 AM, N2KPV  > wrote:
> 
> Hello, I will try to make a long story short. I have been a mac user since
> 2011 and have been using a well known anti-virus with no problems . In
> October I updated to El Capitan and my hardrive failed . After hours on
> the phone and repeated trips to the Apple store they were able to get me
> running again by removing the anti-virus program . I am a little hesitant
> about putting the same program back into my mac.  I was wondering if
> anyone on the list has any anti-virus suggestions and do I really need one
> ?
> 
> Thanks in advance ,,Ben C
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts broken after VMware's remote support

[Chris Moore]

Karabiner and Seoul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Chris Meredith  wrote:
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> A little late to the party on this one, but I can reproduce the issue of 
> being stuck in the VMware chrome pretty much EVERY! TIME! on my Windows VM 
> (my job uses Slack for team communications, and Slack on anything other than 
> Windows apparently may cause pain, nausea or death).
> On only a partially related note, how the deuce does anyone get their ORCA 
> key to map to anything?  I use SharpKeys to emulate the caps lock key in 
> Windows, but am curious what folks use for Orca under Linux.
>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:30 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi, Sabahattin:
>> 
>> You're correct, and I'll follow through on this. I know I did some
>> mappings via the VMware settings menus. But I can no longer say whether
>> that was all the mapping I did. In other words, I did have Karabiner
>> installed, and it's very likely some mappings came via that app. It's
>> temporarily off my Mac because it wasn't successfully auto updating.
>> I'll put it back and see whether that helps.
>> 
>> My biggest problem with the apparent difference is that I can't reliably
>> access the vm. It used to be that I could release the mouse with
>> Option+Command and tab into the vm. I could even right arrow past Unity
>> and end up in the vm. None of that is working.
>> 
>> So, back to the drawing board and the debug process of walking all the
>> configuration steps. In truth I don't know whether VMware support broke
>> things, or whether the upgrade broke them. All I really know is that it
>> isn't behaving as before. 
>> 
>> Thanks again for the suggestion.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Sabahattin Gucukoglu writes:
>>> Hi Janina,
>>> 
>>> How did you set up your keyboard shortcuts to start with.  System 
>>> Preferences?  Have you tried looking in there again?
>>> 
>>> I actually can’t imagine any situation in which a remote support tool would 
>>> reset the keyboard shortcuts you manually set, but I’m curious to know how 
>>> you think they were set originally.  Unless your remote support person 
>>> helpfully reset them all for you, which I imagine is entirely possible—in 
>>> that case, of course, your mappings would be lost and you would need to 
>>> reset them all to your preferences again.
>>> 
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Re: iphone 6s fingerprint reader

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I used the finger I setup, if that is what you mean.
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:29 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I know this will seem like a crazy question but have you used the correct 
> finger?
> 
> Have you tried your pin code and then relock your phone and attempt with your 
> finger to unlock it again?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 3:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 6s fingerprint reader
> 
> Hi:
> I don’t have a case that covers the reader. Just a speck case that covers the 
> back and a screen protector. I did scan with case off.
>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> It probably is your case actually.  Make sure when you do your original 
>> scans of your finger you do it with the case off.  This tends to work better.
>> 
>> Other than that though, no I havenever had fingerprints stop working on me 
>> over time.
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Has anyone had issues with the iphone 6s’s fingerprint reader? I’ll set it, 
>>> the reader works for a while,then will stop. I’m sure it isn’t the case.
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and iOS Twitter App Bug Be Resolved

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

A couple of months ago, a new feature was added to Twitter, called Moments.
Essentially, Twitter Moments is a birds-eye view of current events happening
around the world.  It's really quite an exciting way to easily follow
trending issues of the day on a variety of subject including news, sports,
entertainment, etc.

If you log into your Twitter account using your preferred web browser, you
will discover the Moments tab located near the top of the browser window.  

However, should you open the native iOS Twitter app, the Moments tab is
nowhere to be found.  This has been perplexing me for a while now until I
discovered the problem, said problem being a bug between VoiceOver and the
Native Twitter app.  

I will paste in the bug report I posted to the iTunes App Store, following
my signature and I invite everyone to please submit a review to the App
Store describing this bug.  Feel free to use any or all of my report in your
review.  

Also, I encourage all of you Twitter users to send a tweet to both @support
and @twitter from within your preferred Twitter client, addressing this
issue.  

With so many important world events taking place at this time, I feel that
it is most urgent that we, as blind and low vision citizens, be part of the
conversation.

Thank you, 

Mark
[BEGIN BUG REPORT]
A Bug With Twitter Moments and VoiceOver in iOS

Twitter moments is one of the most exciting new features now being enjoyed
by thousands of iOS Twitter app users.  

However, when VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the
blind and low vision, is enabled, the Moments Tab, does not appear.  In
order to get the Moments Tab to be displayed, VoiceOver must first be
disabled, then the Twitter app must be launched, then, VoiceOver re-enabled
at which time a Twitter warning message appears prompting the blind or low
vision person to close and restart Twitter with VoiceOver enabled.  Of
course, doing this will cause the Moments Tab to, once again, disappear.  

I urge Twitter to address this accessibility bug as soon as possible.
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text messages on the mac

[Marie Lyons]

How do you send? I only find a button for send audio. I tried the same keyboard 
command for sending an email but it doesn’t work.  I looked in the menu and 
found no send option.  I’m puzzled.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Marie Lyons

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Re: text messages on the mac

[Alex Hall]

Pressing enter from the iMessage or text message input field should do the 
trick. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2016, at 16:49, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> How do you send? I only find a button for send audio. I tried the same 
> keyboard command for sending an email but it doesn’t work.  I looked in the 
> menu and found no send option.  I’m puzzled.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Marie Lyons
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Re: text messages on the mac

[Shaf]

What if you have two phones connect through continuity/Text Message
Forwarding? How do you specify which phone to send the message from?

On 2/2/2016 10:03 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Pressing enter from the iMessage or text message input field should do the 
> trick. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 16:49, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>
>> How do you send? I only find a button for send audio. I tried the same 
>> keyboard command for sending an email but it doesn’t work.  I looked in the 
>> menu and found no send option.  I’m puzzled.  Any help is greatly 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Marie Lyons
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Re: text messages on the mac

[Marie Lyons]

I did do that intuitively but didn’t notice any action, so to speak. When I 
went back into Messages it said delivered.

Thanks so much!
Marie Lyons
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Pressing enter from the iMessage or text message input field should do the 
> trick. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 16:49, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you send? I only find a button for send audio. I tried the same 
>> keyboard command for sending an email but it doesn’t work.  I looked in the 
>> menu and found no send option.  I’m puzzled.  Any help is greatly 
>> appreciated.
>> 
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Re: Iphone slow on wifi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
What could cause the mac to be a problem here?
Thanks.
/A
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 16:22, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Could be interference but you’d think your Mac would be impacted also 
> depending if they are in similar places in the house.
> 
> I’m leaning towards interference but the Mac is making me question that.
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have an Iphone 6 S so its the latest.
>> Regarding the bands i am not sure  as i have set my airports to use 
>> automatic radio channels.
>> But maybe this wasn’t that good?
>> /A
>>> On 02 Feb 2016, at 14:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What type of iPhone is this?  What band are you using 2.4 or ughz and is 
>>> this 802.11N or AC or B/G?  Would like to know a bit more about the setup.  
>>> The airports you’re using are very capable across bands so it depends on 
>>> the specific iPhone you have.
>>> 
>>> Since it’s apple all the way though I would have expected more performance.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Is the Mac hard wired or is that too wirelessly connected. I’d expect a 
 hard wired device to be more efficient.
 
 Gena
 
> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> This is so strange i have to ask about it here.
> I hope someone can clear things out for me.
> I have a 100mbps cable internet connection.
> The cable modem is configured just to be a modem and not a router.
> I have connected one of my airport express via ethernet to the modem and 
> the two other airport devices, one airport extreme and one other express 
> is connected wirelessly to the airport express connected to the modem.
> SO far so good and the airport is set to be a nat and it just works out 
> well.
> Now to the strange issue.
> When i check the speed with a app from the swedish telephone and postal 
> service which decides how operators should work and so on.
> I do the test with their app on my Iphone and only get 17mbps download 
> speed and 11mbps upload.
> Going to their site with my mac gives me 65mbps with their built-in test 
> on their site.
> Note that my mac and iphone did the test at the same place in the 
> apartment.
> I have tried moving around with my Iphone and do  more testing but it 
> does not give me more than 17 or maybe 20Mbps.
> The same with my ipod touch 5th gen and my ipad mini 2.
> Any ideas?
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Re: Activity Monitor

[Phil Halton]

I believe activity monitor will show process is active in the last eight hours 
or so. At least that's what happens on my MBA. That may be a selectable item 
you know, show process is active in the last day or only active now etc.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 2, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
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> I quit calculator with CMD+Q.
> To double-check, I went to the application chooser and window chooser and 
> calculator wasn't there, yet activity monitor shows it still.
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Re: Is Java safe to install in Windows VM's?

[Phil Halton]

I don't do any critical work in this VM. I'm just using it now to access 
websites that use Adobe flash player etc.
, Stuff that can't be done on either the Mac or the iPhone.
Thanks, I guess I'll install Java so I can do my stupid little vocabulary 
drills on study Spanish.com. Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> You can’t use internet explorer with out security risks.:)
> 
> One of the benefits of using a VM is you can contain the damage so it’s a 
> little less critical.  Now if this is your VM you do all your banking from 
> and such I wouldn’t recommend it but the advantage of VMs is you can spin up 
> all you need with out the expense of physical hardware and resources.  So are 
> there security issues yes, are they a problem for you, probably not since 
> you’re limiting the blast radius by being with a VM.  Maybe someone more 
> development minded would respond with greater clue but if it were me I’d say 
> this is the reason or a reason we use VMs to help keep isolated environments.
> 
> How’s that?
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using a website that relies on Adobe flash player and Java applets. I 
>> remember from the days of windows before I went completely over to mac that 
>> Java was replete with security holes. I remember it was recommended to 
>> uninstall  java for a while there. Has it been fixed to the point where it's 
>> OK to install Java in your Internet explorer browser without exposure to a 
>> lot of security risks?
>> 
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Re: text messages on the mac

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

If you have a hearing loss, you may not hear it. But, iMessage does give an 
ascending sort of buzz tone, kind of sounding like a child's toy. If you 
receive a message while you're in iMessage, you'll get the reverse, which is 
the descending buzzing tone.


Ben
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From: "Marie Lyons" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 15:08
Subject: Re: text messages on the mac


I did do that intuitively but didn’t notice any action, so to speak. When I 
went back into Messages it said delivered.


Thanks so much!
Marie Lyons

On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Pressing enter from the iMessage or text message input field should do the 
trick.


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 2, 2016, at 16:49, Marie Lyons  wrote:

How do you send? I only find a button for send audio. I tried the same 
keyboard command for sending an email but it doesn’t work.  I looked in 
the menu and found no send option.  I’m puzzled.  Any help is greatly 
appreciated.


Marie Lyons

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Re: Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and iOS Twitter App Bug Be Resolved

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Being that it's a bird's eye view, is it something that's visual/graphical? 
If that be the case, then Voiceover would probably not be able to handle it, 
making the need of that message clear.


Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 13:47
Subject: Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and iOS 
Twitter App Bug Be Resolved




Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

A couple of months ago, a new feature was added to Twitter, called 
Moments.
Essentially, Twitter Moments is a birds-eye view of current events 
happening

around the world.  It's really quite an exciting way to easily follow
trending issues of the day on a variety of subject including news, sports,
entertainment, etc.

If you log into your Twitter account using your preferred web browser, you
will discover the Moments tab located near the top of the browser window.

However, should you open the native iOS Twitter app, the Moments tab is
nowhere to be found.  This has been perplexing me for a while now until I
discovered the problem, said problem being a bug between VoiceOver and the
Native Twitter app.

I will paste in the bug report I posted to the iTunes App Store, following
my signature and I invite everyone to please submit a review to the App
Store describing this bug.  Feel free to use any or all of my report in 
your

review.

Also, I encourage all of you Twitter users to send a tweet to both 
@support

and @twitter from within your preferred Twitter client, addressing this
issue.

With so many important world events taking place at this time, I feel that
it is most urgent that we, as blind and low vision citizens, be part of 
the

conversation.

Thank you,

Mark
[BEGIN BUG REPORT]
A Bug With Twitter Moments and VoiceOver in iOS

Twitter moments is one of the most exciting new features now being enjoyed
by thousands of iOS Twitter app users.

However, when VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the
blind and low vision, is enabled, the Moments Tab, does not appear.  In
order to get the Moments Tab to be displayed, VoiceOver must first be
disabled, then the Twitter app must be launched, then, VoiceOver 
re-enabled

at which time a Twitter warning message appears prompting the blind or low
vision person to close and restart Twitter with VoiceOver enabled.  Of
course, doing this will cause the Moments Tab to, once again, disappear.

I urge Twitter to address this accessibility bug as soon as possible.
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Re: text messages on the mac

[Christohper-Mark Gilland]

OK, a few things.

I've not admittedly been following this thread too closely, but as for the 
send voice button, if you hit vo+space on it, then speak.  When done, 
VO+Space again to stop recording.  Then, navigate to the send button, and 
hit vo+Space.


If you're sending just a normal text based SMS or IMessage, then just hit 
return to send off your message.


As for what Ben told you with the asending and descending tone, that can be 
changed within the preferences of the Messages app simply by openning up the 
app on the mac, then hitting command+Comma.  I'm not totally sure where the 
setting is in there, so it may take a small bit of pecking around, but I 
assure you, it's there and will be incredibly obvious when you see it.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben J. Bloomgren" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: text messages on the mac


If you have a hearing loss, you may not hear it. But, iMessage does give an
ascending sort of buzz tone, kind of sounding like a child's toy. If you
receive a message while you're in iMessage, you'll get the reverse, which is
the descending buzzing tone.

Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "Marie Lyons" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 15:08
Subject: Re: text messages on the mac


I did do that intuitively but didn’t notice any action, so to speak. When I
went back into Messages it said delivered.

Thanks so much!
Marie Lyons

On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Pressing enter from the iMessage or text message input field should do the 
trick.


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 2, 2016, at 16:49, Marie Lyons  wrote:

How do you send? I only find a button for send audio. I tried the same 
keyboard command for sending an email but it doesn’t work.  I looked in 
the menu and found no send option.  I’m puzzled.  Any help is greatly 
appreciated.


Marie Lyons

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Re: Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and iOS Twitter App Bug Be Resolved

[Christohper-Mark Gilland]

No Ben.  Mark is on to something here.  This is definitely a very valid bug. 
Visually, the tab is there, but when he says quote: bird eye's view, he 
doesn't mean like a map view.  He's using the term more loosely to mean you 
can quickly home in on different parts of the world having events.  Don't 
over-annalyze it.  LOL!  Smile.


It's all good.  I agree though.  This does need to be 
fixed/addressed/reported.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben J. Bloomgren" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and 
iOS Twitter App Bug Be Resolved



Being that it's a bird's eye view, is it something that's 
visual/graphical? If that be the case, then Voiceover would probably not 
be able to handle it, making the need of that message clear.


Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 13:47
Subject: Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and iOS 
Twitter App Bug Be Resolved




Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

A couple of months ago, a new feature was added to Twitter, called 
Moments.
Essentially, Twitter Moments is a birds-eye view of current events 
happening

around the world.  It's really quite an exciting way to easily follow
trending issues of the day on a variety of subject including news, 
sports,

entertainment, etc.

If you log into your Twitter account using your preferred web browser, 
you

will discover the Moments tab located near the top of the browser window.

However, should you open the native iOS Twitter app, the Moments tab is
nowhere to be found.  This has been perplexing me for a while now until I
discovered the problem, said problem being a bug between VoiceOver and 
the

Native Twitter app.

I will paste in the bug report I posted to the iTunes App Store, 
following

my signature and I invite everyone to please submit a review to the App
Store describing this bug.  Feel free to use any or all of my report in 
your

review.

Also, I encourage all of you Twitter users to send a tweet to both 
@support

and @twitter from within your preferred Twitter client, addressing this
issue.

With so many important world events taking place at this time, I feel 
that
it is most urgent that we, as blind and low vision citizens, be part of 
the

conversation.

Thank you,

Mark
[BEGIN BUG REPORT]
A Bug With Twitter Moments and VoiceOver in iOS

Twitter moments is one of the most exciting new features now being 
enjoyed

by thousands of iOS Twitter app users.

However, when VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the
blind and low vision, is enabled, the Moments Tab, does not appear.  In
order to get the Moments Tab to be displayed, VoiceOver must first be
disabled, then the Twitter app must be launched, then, VoiceOver 
re-enabled
at which time a Twitter warning message appears prompting the blind or 
low

vision person to close and restart Twitter with VoiceOver enabled.  Of
course, doing this will cause the Moments Tab to, once again, disappear.

I urge Twitter to address this accessibility bug as soon as possible.
[END BUG REPORT]


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