Re: Testing New Email, Someone Please Reply

2014-02-24 Thread Chris H

Got it.

Regards Chris

On 24/02/2014 03:12, Alex Hall wrote:

Hi all,
I'm switching everything over to iCloud mail, and am just testing this 
subscription to be sure it is all working. Can someone reply, just so I'm sure 
I am getting messages and that my filter is working? Thanks.

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Re: Safari Interaction Issue in Mavericks

2014-02-24 Thread Justin Mann
What is the difference in using groups or the dom?  I'm pretty comfortable 
using VO, but I've not figured out what the advantage is with either mode?
On Feb 23, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> This appears to be more of a problem if your VO settings for web are set to 
> grouping rather then DOM>
> 
> 1. VO-F8 to get VO Utility.
> Control-5 to bring up web preferences.
> 3. in the navigation tab see if changing from group to dom helps.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Ibreheem,
>> 
>> Yeah I think those are two different issues, and I am getting the same issue 
>> that you are of opening a page but being kept on the same page. I reviewed 
>> my settings in VO Utility and safari last night, and am pretty sure it is a 
>> bug as I couldn't find anything that was set incorrectly. Just hoping this 
>> OS update that should be coming soon fixes some of these issues. Thanks, 
>> Brian
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Brian, 
>>> 
>>> I've noticed the same issue, accept my VO remains on the previous page. It 
>>> doesn't jump to the tool bar. I have the setting set to have it jump into 
>>> the new loaded page as well. I for some reason cannot open up hyperlinks in 
>>> Apple mail either. If I right click on them, I get three options I believe. 
>>> Copy link, open behind mail and open I think.
>>> 
>>> The only one which seems to work is the copy feature which I then paste the 
>>> link into an address field. Sometimes however, I don't even have the option 
>>> of handling the link when I right click a hyper link. This extreme case 
>>> where there's a lack of opening and copying options  occurs  in all my NY 
>>> Times articles.
>>> 
>>> Maybe these are two issues separate from each other. Just thought I'd chime 
>>> in with you.
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> 
>>> Ibraheem
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 1:25 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey all,
 
 I have noticed in safari that a lot of the time whenever I open a new 
 window in safari by clicking on a link in page instead of VO being focused 
 in to the page I get brought in to the toolbar. I have my preferences set 
 to interact with the content of a new page or waterer it is called, but I 
 still land in the toolbar. I also end up in the tool bar or the previous 
 page I was viewing in safari most of the time when I click on a link in an 
 email instead of being brought to the new page. Is there a setting I am 
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Re: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-24 Thread Aimee Harwood
Hi Justin. Does this display have a braille keyboard? 

Thanks

Aimee 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
> 
> Hi Amy,
> 
> Another braille display that I would consider is the alva BC640.  It has all 
> the features that you've been looking for, but will also work with two 
> devices.  I use an alva with my iPhone, and it also works with the Mac as 
> well.  
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going 
>> to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, 
>> those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 
>> 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80?
>> 
>> Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple 
>> products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a 
>> chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which 
>> display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time 
>> going back and forth between display and keyboard? 
>> 
>> If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly 
>> with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? 
>> 
>> Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with 
>> my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to 
>> use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I 
>> can use it with the other.
>> 
>> Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is 
>> Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing 
>> a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement?
>> 
>> Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a 
>> Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like 
>> the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, 
>> which display would be a better fit for me?
>> 
>> Brailliant BI
>> VarioConnect
>> Braille edge
>> Focus
>> Active Braille
>> 
>> Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you 
>> think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but 
>> may not be able to get my hands on all of them.
>> 
>> I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where 
>> they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. 
>> Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't 
>> found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions 
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Aimee 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-24 Thread Justin Mann
Yes it does absolutely.  You will need to get the feature pack with it however 
in order to get the braille keyboard.  However, it is well worth the investment.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:

> Hi Justin. Does this display have a braille keyboard? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Aimee 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amy,
>> 
>> Another braille display that I would consider is the alva BC640.  It has all 
>> the features that you've been looking for, but will also work with two 
>> devices.  I use an alva with my iPhone, and it also works with the Mac as 
>> well.  
>>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am 
>>> going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to 
>>> you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can 
>>> I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80?
>>> 
>>> Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple 
>>> products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a 
>>> chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which 
>>> display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of 
>>> time going back and forth between display and keyboard? 
>>> 
>>> If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly 
>>> with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? 
>>> 
>>> Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with 
>>> my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to 
>>> use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I 
>>> can use it with the other.
>>> 
>>> Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is 
>>> Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth 
>>> choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement?
>>> 
>>> Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a 
>>> Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like 
>>> the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, 
>>> which display would be a better fit for me?
>>> 
>>> Brailliant BI
>>> VarioConnect
>>> Braille edge
>>> Focus
>>> Active Braille
>>> 
>>> Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that 
>>> you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these 
>>> but may not be able to get my hands on all of them.
>>> 
>>> I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where 
>>> they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. 
>>> Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't 
>>> found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or 
>>> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Aimee 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Amy 
Since you are not yet sure about the job you might get, you might also want to 
consider the weight of a braille display you get and the features that come 
with it. I know that my situation is different than most because I have a 
business doing braille proofreading. In my case I need 40 cells on at least one 
braille display and preferably two in case one goes to the braille display 
hospital. 

Recently, my old PacMate finally crashed, and I had to make a dcision about 
whether to spend more money on it or get something new. Its braille display was 
in good shape, so I had to decide whether to keep it or sell it. 

I bring all this up because I started out wanting to get another 40 cell 
display by buying a Focus 40 Blue. That is, until I discovered that those 
babies cost as much as my Braille Edge 40, which has more features, such as the 
ability to have stand alone note taking features. I paid about $3, and my 
Braille Edge 40, and they wanted $2,895 for the Focus 40 Blue, and it is only a 
computer braille display; it also is heavier than my Braille Edge 40. So, I 
ended up keeping the PacMate Braille display which has 40 cells, keeping my 
Braille Edge 40 which I won't give up unless I have to, and buying a focus 14 
so that I could have another keyboard for my computer and iPhone. That only 
costed me about $1295. 

If you can find somewhere to go where they have some of these things in one 
place, it might save you from some disappointment on a Braille display. 

Before you ask, in my business it benefits me at times and increases efficiency 
to have two braille keyboards, which is something almost nobody else will need 
or find beneficial. I wouldn't find it needful either if programs were set up 
better for braille proofreaders so that I didn't have to count lines and find 
page numbers. 

Oh, and you never know about what might happen with regards to what you might 
get at work. I just talked to someone whose employer bought them a Mac Book 
Pro. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:

> Yes it does absolutely.  You will need to get the feature pack with it 
> however in order to get the braille keyboard.  However, it is well worth the 
> investment.
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Justin. Does this display have a braille keyboard? 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Aimee 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Amy,
>>> 
>>> Another braille display that I would consider is the alva BC640.  It has 
>>> all the features that you've been looking for, but will also work with two 
>>> devices.  I use an alva with my iPhone, and it also works with the Mac as 
>>> well.  
 On Feb 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
 
 Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am 
 going to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to 
 you is, those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can 
 I use a 40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80?
 
 Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple 
 products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me 
 a chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. 
 Which display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount 
 of time going back and forth between display and keyboard? 
 
 If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly 
 with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? 
 
 Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with 
 my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to 
 use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I 
 can use it with the other.
 
 Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is 
 Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth 
 choosing a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement?
 
 Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a 
 Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like 
 the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, 
 which display would be a better fit for me?
 
 Brailliant BI
 VarioConnect
 Braille edge
 Focus
 Active Braille
 
 Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that 
 you think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of 
 these but may not be able to get my hands on all of them.
 
 I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where 
 they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. 
 Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't 
 found a lot of re

Re: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-24 Thread alia robinson
I have always wanted a braille display, but imo it is nearly impossible to 
afford one. I can't see paying *that* much for something, I just can't. I keep 
reading about cheaper options soon, but cheaper has simply seemed to mean less 
useable, imo. 

Alia
On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:

> Yes it does absolutely.  You will need to get the feature pack with it 
> however in order to get the braille keyboard.  However, it is well worth the 
> investment.

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problems auto-selecting iCloud alias when replying to this list

2014-02-24 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
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iCloud alias. When I reply, however, the address selected is my main iCloud 
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Re: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there 
I don't think it's realistic for us to expect braille displays to go down that 
much in the foreseeable future. There's just not that many of us, relatively 
speaking, who need or want them. Even if braille once again became the hottest 
thing for us the way it should be, we're a highly specialized crowd and there's 
a lot of braille displays out there. In my case, I actually make more money by 
spending the money on the braille displays. This is because one of my customers 
can use email for sending me work instead of brailling it all up. So, I get the 
work faster from them. This means I can turn in more work as well. 

The fewer cells the braille displays have the less they are going to cost. The 
smallest I ever heard of lately is 12 cells, and I don't think it'd want one 
that was less than that. 

You might be able to get some used displays. I did once when I needed one but 
didn't have much money. When I bought the used one, I ended up getting several 
hundred dollars off the price. Not only that, but the display has lasted and is 
still going for several years. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:13 AM, alia robinson  wrote:

> I have always wanted a braille display, but imo it is nearly impossible to 
> afford one. I can't see paying *that* much for something, I just can't. I 
> keep reading about cheaper options soon, but cheaper has simply seemed to 
> mean less useable, imo. 
> 
> Alia
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
> 
>> Yes it does absolutely.  You will need to get the feature pack with it 
>> however in order to get the braille keyboard.  However, it is well worth the 
>> investment.
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Re: problems auto-selecting iCloud alias when replying to this list

2014-02-24 Thread isaac
Did you try going to the from menu and choose you're iCloud email address?  
On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

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> one, not the alias I'm using. Is there a fix for this? I have Mail set to 
> reply from the selected mailbox account, if that matters. Thanks.
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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

No need to re-install any more times.  I would usually guess that if it didn't 
work after the first re-install, that wasn't going to be the fix.  As a matter 
of interest though, does the Help Centre appear for you when accessing it from 
other apps like Mail, Preview or iTunes?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> ok, i reinstall my garage band now for 5 time now and i haven't got any good 
> result yet. i did even restart my computer after deleting the garage band, so 
> what i am doing wrong? any more suggestions?
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Re: problems auto-selecting iCloud alias when replying to this list

2014-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Try going to the Accounts pane in your Mail Prefs, selecting your iCloud 
account and the Account Details tab within this.  There should be a pop-up that 
allows you to choose from your aliases.  Whichever one you pick there should 
show up as who messages came from.

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Re: problems auto-selecting iCloud alias when replying to this list

2014-02-24 Thread Alex Hall
Good thought, that seems to have done it. Thanks!
On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Try going to the Accounts pane in your Mail Prefs, selecting your iCloud 
> account and the Account Details tab within this.  There should be a pop-up 
> that allows you to choose from your aliases.  Whichever one you pick there 
> should show up as who messages came from.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I've noticed something very odd. I receive email from this list at my new 
>> iCloud alias. When I reply, however, the address selected is my main iCloud 
>> one, not the alias I'm using. Is there a fix for this? I have Mail set to 
>> reply from the selected mailbox account, if that matters. Thanks.
>> 
>> --
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Re: Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down & Home/End Keys

2014-02-24 Thread Kayaker
Hi,

Do not waste a gray hair on worrying if the keyboard will wear out. Your SSD 
will die before that happens.

In regards to the logitech K750, that is NOT a bluetooth keyboard. It uses a 
proprietary USB dongle and requires a free USB port. Not to mention, the 
reviews of that model are horrid on Amazon.

I find there is a huge void of full sized bluetooth keyboards and stand alone 
bluetooth number pads out there. I have tried the belkin number pad sold at the 
Apple store and it is a piece of junk. Has major pairing issues and poor 
bluetooth connectivity in general. I've tested it across five different Macs.

I've simply gone to a wired USB full sized keyboard when I need it.

--k

  

On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:58 AM, wayne17a  wrote:

>   Hi look at the Logitech k750 it is sola powered and has all the keys
> you named and a number pad so hopes this helps 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down &
> Home/End Keys
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I am seeking recommendations for a BT keyboard for my Mac Air that has a
> page up/down and home/end keys. I am concerned with the amount of use of the
> VO keys, command key, and FN key combinations with the arrow keys that in
> the future they will wear out. It would be nice to have full navigation with
> Page Up/Down and navigation with the Home/End keys, as one has on a full
> keyboard on the PC side. I do a tremendous amount of word processing and I
> need to edit my work before sending in the final copy to my job site.
> Recently, the Logitech 760 information has been posted to this list, but I
> could not ascertain if there were the keys listed above on this keyboard.
> Any assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Eileen Î
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RE: Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down & Home/End Keys

2014-02-24 Thread wayne17a
Hello regarding the k750 you are right about using it with a ipad
but I am using it with a mac book pro and running win 7 and have had no
trouble with it so I don't know what the adverse comments are but I find it
does all I need and the number pad makes life easy when I have to use it 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kayaker
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down &
Home/End Keys

Hi,

Do not waste a gray hair on worrying if the keyboard will wear out. Your SSD
will die before that happens.

In regards to the logitech K750, that is NOT a bluetooth keyboard. It uses a
proprietary USB dongle and requires a free USB port. Not to mention, the
reviews of that model are horrid on Amazon.

I find there is a huge void of full sized bluetooth keyboards and stand
alone bluetooth number pads out there. I have tried the belkin number pad
sold at the Apple store and it is a piece of junk. Has major pairing issues
and poor bluetooth connectivity in general. I've tested it across five
different Macs.

I've simply gone to a wired USB full sized keyboard when I need it.

--k

  

On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:58 AM, wayne17a  wrote:

>   Hi look at the Logitech k750 it is sola powered and has all the keys

> you named and a number pad so hopes this helps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down 
> & Home/End Keys
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am seeking recommendations for a BT keyboard for my Mac Air that has 
> a page up/down and home/end keys. I am concerned with the amount of 
> use of the VO keys, command key, and FN key combinations with the 
> arrow keys that in the future they will wear out. It would be nice to 
> have full navigation with Page Up/Down and navigation with the 
> Home/End keys, as one has on a full keyboard on the PC side. I do a 
> tremendous amount of word processing and I need to edit my work before
sending in the final copy to my job site.
> Recently, the Logitech 760 information has been posted to this list, 
> but I could not ascertain if there were the keys listed above on this
keyboard.
> Any assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Eileen Î
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PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.

2014-02-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.

Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in 
forms.

However, in the Preview I can read the form but can't fill in the form.  Pages 
is dimmed.  Have not opened it in I books as I books wasn't that good and I 
don't know if I can fill in documents.

Is there any way I can fill in a PDF form?

Thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.

2014-02-24 Thread isaac
I am not sure if you can use preview to feel out the forms.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.
> 
> Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in 
> forms.
> 
> However, in the Preview I can read the form but can't fill in the form.  
> Pages is dimmed.  Have not opened it in I books as I books wasn't that good 
> and I don't know if I can fill in documents.
> 
> Is there any way I can fill in a PDF form?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
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Disappearing Finder

2014-02-24 Thread Antonio Guimaraes
Hi all,

I force quit finder the otter day since it was not responding.

Now I can't bring up a finder window, and so can't get to my files, which makes 
my computer nearly useless.

Any thoughts?

Antonio

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Re: Disappearing Finder

2014-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Have you restarted your Mac?  Force Quitting the Finder often causes lots of 
issues from a VO prospective prior to a restart.  The restart should fix those 
sorts of things.  Also sometimes, when the Finder seems to be working but VO 
won't display any windows, press cmd-shift-h to open your Home directory then 
cmd-w to close it and all Finder windows will work again.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I force quit finder the otter day since it was not responding.
> 
> Now I can't bring up a finder window, and so can't get to my files, which 
> makes my computer nearly useless.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Antonio
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Which Braille display to get

2014-02-24 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Aimee,

I know this wasn't on your list, and it's smaller, but I love the Handytech 
products. I have a 20-cell display called a Braillino. They have 40-cell ones 
as well that also function as notetakers. I have had no problems pairing with 
my Iphone 5 and the Macbook, and Mac Mini. I usually keep the bluetooth on my 
iphone off, so I have to enter the bluetooth pairing code sometimes when I want 
to pair my Braillino with it. Handytech's display, at least the Braillino comes 
with four rechargable double A batteries. I like it because the batteries 
aren't proprietary  and you can charge them with the charger provided. I don't 
work for Hadytech, just a satisified customer. Their website is:

http://www.handytech.de/produkte.php?kategorie=1


They have a website for the states, but I can't remember it at the moment. I 
hope I've helped.

Allison
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RE: Configuring Spanish Braille on a Mac

2014-02-24 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi all,

I have a Braillino. I just figured out I can configure each voice to have a 
different Braille setting in VoiceOver. How neat! The Monica voice works well 
with the Braillino, and the Braille is displayed in grade 1 which is correct 
for Spain. Thanks to everyone for all your help.

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Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.

2014-02-24 Thread Chris H

Have you opened it in TextEdit under Mavericks?

Regards Chris

On 24/02/2014 16:44, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello.

I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.

Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in 
forms.

However, in the Preview I can read the form but can't fill in the form.  Pages 
is dimmed.  Have not opened it in I books as I books wasn't that good and I 
don't know if I can fill in documents.

Is there any way I can fill in a PDF form?

Thanks.

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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
yes, i can open up the help menu on other apps, i cant even open up the 
preference of the garage band now, how can i report this? there's a menu on the 
garage band and i cant click it either.
On 24 Feb 2014, at 04:43 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No need to re-install any more times.  I would usually guess that if it 
> didn't work after the first re-install, that wasn't going to be the fix.  As 
> a matter of interest though, does the Help Centre appear for you when 
> accessing it from other apps like Mail, Preview or iTunes?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> ok, i reinstall my garage band now for 5 time now and i haven't got any good 
>> result yet. i did even restart my computer after deleting the garage band, 
>> so what i am doing wrong? any more suggestions?
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Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.

2014-02-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Yes I did open it in text edit but it would not read it.  It read it perfectly 
in Preview but found I could not fill in the form.  I'll try it again in Text 
edit but I only have Mavericks.

Kawal.

> On 24 Feb 2014, at 07:15 pm, Chris H  wrote:
> 
> Have you opened it in TextEdit under Mavericks?
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
>> On 24/02/2014 16:44, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.
>> 
>> Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in 
>> forms.
>> 
>> However, in the Preview I can read the form but can't fill in the form.  
>> Pages is dimmed.  Have not opened it in I books as I books wasn't that good 
>> and I don't know if I can fill in documents.
>> 
>> Is there any way I can fill in a PDF form?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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trying to install some apps mentioned from a podcast

2014-02-24 Thread Shannon Gerdts
Hello everyone,
So my wife and I are looking at this one podcast which I will provide the 
link to which is reguarding remapping the voiceover keys to the caps lock key 
as well as creating a numpad around the I key etc.  We’re wanting to see if we 
can do this so that her vm fusion experience is possibly a little better being 
that she doesn’t have a full keyboard to use therefore not being able to use 
things like the jaws cursor or mouse clicks with jaws.The podcast we’re looking 
at is the following:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
On here it mentions to go to pqrs.org’s website and download two apps 
called keyRemap4MacBook and PcKeyboardHack.  However the link it provides to do 
this doesn’t seem to exist and when we go just to pqrs.org we can only 
seemingly find the first app.  Also, when we go to that link the installation 
instructions are pretty confusing so hoping someone can give us some advice on 
how to better understand what we need to do.
Thanks again for any help on this matter as usual.  Also, if anyone has 
experience running vm fusion on their mac and has success please feel free and 
send me some e-mails directly maybe offlist as it seems as if we have some 
random issues that we’re not quite sure how to resolve at the moment.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts

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opening links within a keynote presentation?

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica
Hi Everyone,
I am trying to open a link in a slide of a keynote presentation I made. I am 
just testing it out so I know how to open them in the future. I did vO space on 
the text I had written which represents the link. It entered the text field. 
what am I doing wrong?
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Re: opening links within a keynote presentation?

2014-02-24 Thread isaac
Did you try interacting with the link then pressing vo space.
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> I am trying to open a link in a slide of a keynote presentation I made. I am 
> just testing it out so I know how to open them in the future. I did vO space 
> on the text I had written which represents the link. It entered the text 
> field. what am I doing wrong?
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: opening links within a keynote presentation?

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica
Yes, it did the same as earlier. I am currently in the associated text field 
instead. The option is not available in the context menu.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:08 PM, isaac  wrote:
> 
> Did you try interacting with the link then pressing vo space.
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I am trying to open a link in a slide of a keynote presentation I made. I am 
>> just testing it out so I know how to open them in the future. I did vO space 
>> on the text I had written which represents the link. It entered the text 
>> field. what am I doing wrong?
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: trying to install some apps mentioned from a podcast

2014-02-24 Thread Deb Lewis
I did this last week. The KeyRing app is at the link you visited. I
believe there's a link called Other apps or something to that effect
and you'll find the PC Keyboard hack there. It's not on the same page
as it was when the podcast was developed and I had to look around for
it. After you have them, the podcast is very descriptive about what to
do. The hardest part was finding that second app but after that the
instructions will all work as advertised.
Oh, there was one other difference. If you're running Mavricks, you
are instructed to go to apple preferences and make some changes. The
newly installed apps didn't appear in my apple preferences, but
opening each of them revealed the same options he was describing and
everything worked as advertised.
I don't want to go through the tutorial again, he did a great job, but
after you find them, if there's something specific, I'm sure we can
help.
As I said, finding that second app isn't quite where he said now, but
it's still up there and you need them both for this to work.

On 2/24/14, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> So my wife and I are looking at this one podcast which I will provide
> the link to which is reguarding remapping the voiceover keys to the caps
> lock key as well as creating a numpad around the I key etc.  We're wanting
> to see if we can do this so that her vm fusion experience is possibly a
> little better being that she doesn't have a full keyboard to use therefore
> not being able to use things like the jaws cursor or mouse clicks with
> jaws.The podcast we're looking at is the following:
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
> On here it mentions to go to pqrs.org's website and download two apps
> called keyRemap4MacBook and PcKeyboardHack.  However the link it provides to
> do this doesn't seem to exist and when we go just to pqrs.org we can only
> seemingly find the first app.  Also, when we go to that link the
> installation instructions are pretty confusing so hoping someone can give us
> some advice on how to better understand what we need to do.
> Thanks again for any help on this matter as usual.  Also, if anyone has
> experience running vm fusion on their mac and has success please feel free
> and send me some e-mails directly maybe offlist as it seems as if we have
> some random issues that we're not quite sure how to resolve at the moment.
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
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A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Fischler
After removing gmail and having it off my computer for a week, mac mail is 
working a lot better, but I am still experiencing quite a few annoying 
problems, and wanted to see if anyone had any work arounds or suggestions.

1. In Mac mail hitting return doesn't open the message no matter how many times 
I hit return. To see the message I have to either use the window chooser menu 
to pull it up or toggle between another open program and back to mail and the 
message I hit return on is front and center.

2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO shift 
M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of my 
computer which usually fixes this did not.

3. Bluetooth issues really annoying as my track pad constantly loses 
connectivity but I am able to reconnect it in the bluetooth menu after 
disconnecting and reconnecting. My Logictech K760 keyboard works for five 
minutes and then will not reconnect to the computer but if I restart my 
computer it will reconnect. The keyboard worked absolutely fine in Mountain 
Lion and this started as soon as I installed Mavericks.

4. Programs are still very slow to launch and I am still getting what seems 
like way to many busy busy messages in many programs.

Any advice?

Thanks,

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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica
I have a bluetooth speaker. I have the disconnecting issue as well. I will 
email apple accessibility about it right now.

Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com



On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> After removing gmail and having it off my computer for a week, mac mail is 
> working a lot better, but I am still experiencing quite a few annoying 
> problems, and wanted to see if anyone had any work arounds or suggestions.
> 
> 1. In Mac mail hitting return doesn't open the message no matter how many 
> times I hit return. To see the message I have to either use the window 
> chooser menu to pull it up or toggle between another open program and back to 
> mail and the message I hit return on is front and center.
> 
> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of 
> my computer which usually fixes this did not.
> 
> 3. Bluetooth issues really annoying as my track pad constantly loses 
> connectivity but I am able to reconnect it in the bluetooth menu after 
> disconnecting and reconnecting. My Logitech K760 keyboard works for five 
> minutes and then will not reconnect to the computer but if I restart my 
> computer it will reconnect. The keyboard worked absolutely fine in Mountain 
> Lion and this started as soon as I installed Mavericks.
> 
> 4. Programs are still very slow to launch and I am still getting what seems 
> like way to many busy busy messages in many programs.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread isaac
First have you tried interacting with the text of the email with vo j? Try 
interacting with the email with vo j to open it to see if that works.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> After removing gmail and having it off my computer for a week, mac mail is 
> working a lot better, but I am still experiencing quite a few annoying 
> problems, and wanted to see if anyone had any work arounds or suggestions.
> 
> 1. In Mac mail hitting return doesn't open the message no matter how many 
> times I hit return. To see the message I have to either use the window 
> chooser menu to pull it up or toggle between another open program and back to 
> mail and the message I hit return on is front and center.
> 
> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of 
> my computer which usually fixes this did not.
> 
> 3. Bluetooth issues really annoying as my track pad constantly loses 
> connectivity but I am able to reconnect it in the bluetooth menu after 
> disconnecting and reconnecting. My Logictech K760 keyboard works for five 
> minutes and then will not reconnect to the computer but if I restart my 
> computer it will reconnect. The keyboard worked absolutely fine in Mountain 
> Lion and this started as soon as I installed Mavericks.
> 
> 4. Programs are still very slow to launch and I am still getting what seems 
> like way to many busy busy messages in many programs.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread Alex Hall
Is this after a clean install? My app launching problems disappeared, so long 
as I don't have a resource hog like Xcode open, after I did that. I've not seen 
the mail problem you describe, and I rarely use iTunes or bluetooth. Sorry I 
can't help more, but my first thought is a clean install if you haven't done 
one.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> After removing gmail and having it off my computer for a week, mac mail is 
> working a lot better, but I am still experiencing quite a few annoying 
> problems, and wanted to see if anyone had any work arounds or suggestions.
> 
> 1. In Mac mail hitting return doesn't open the message no matter how many 
> times I hit return. To see the message I have to either use the window 
> chooser menu to pull it up or toggle between another open program and back to 
> mail and the message I hit return on is front and center.
> 
> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of 
> my computer which usually fixes this did not.
> 
> 3. Bluetooth issues really annoying as my track pad constantly loses 
> connectivity but I am able to reconnect it in the bluetooth menu after 
> disconnecting and reconnecting. My Logictech K760 keyboard works for five 
> minutes and then will not reconnect to the computer but if I restart my 
> computer it will reconnect. The keyboard worked absolutely fine in Mountain 
> Lion and this started as soon as I installed Mavericks.
> 
> 4. Programs are still very slow to launch and I am still getting what seems 
> like way to many busy busy messages in many programs.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread gkearney
Hello;

Could I get a few more details on item number 2 on this list? Just where 
within iTunes does this problem exhibit itself? Are you on a particular 
control that you expect a contexual menu to appear? What would that item be?

Any help would be welcome.

On Monday, 24 February 2014 12:54:16 UTC-8, Brian Fischler wrote:
>
>
> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart 
> of my computer which usually fixes this did not. 
>
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Chris,

You may have brought up something. I have been seeing something about EFI, but 
did not know what that means. Now the million dollar question, where can I find 
a EFI Vinux? lol. I may just have Vinux boot up on my Windows machine and use 
the Startup program to make a bootable USB.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> The link pasted below to a discussion thread might help you track down some 
> answers. Apparently Windows boxes use BIOS and Macs use EFI firmware for 
> bootstrapping the machine. So while the Linux bases are nearly identical, the 
> bootup process is different and you'll need to have an EFI-based booter to 
> make things go. Most distributions assume a BIOS-based box.
> 
> http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/why-wont-my-macbook-pro-boot-from-a-linux-live-cd
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/22/14 10:43 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my 
>> flash drive to be bootable too. More research!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac 
>>> though.  If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your 
>>> Mac won't boot from it no matter which method you try.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the 
 bootable cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd 
 is bootable. I have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, but 
 I am not sure the program that you are to use on the Mac is accessable, 
 and it involves command line use. That is over my head lol.
 
 But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there issomething 
 on the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. Vinux should 
 start talking when it starts up, so now I think the bootable cd is now 
 working, I just need to find a sighted person.
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
 iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 NVDA installed
 
 Phonak Compilot
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than you're 
> doing, or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending that you do. 
>  Disk Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of your CD.  Your 
> absolute best method is to go into the System Preferences, press on 
> Startup Disks and see if the CD that you hope to boot from is listed 
> there.  If it is, VO-space on it then navigate over to the Restart 
> button.  If it's not there, then your CD is not bootable by your Mac.  
> Holding down the Option key at startup will only give you the list of 
> possible Startup Disks that this pane gives you while in System 
> Preferences, with the added issue that it is not accessible.  For the 
> most part, the Option key method is only useful to you once you know that 
> something is bootable.  There are a number of reasons why it may not boot 
> with your Mac including disk format, external vs internal device etc.  
> Here's an article on creating a bootable USB drive that may assist you in 
> this endeavour.
> 
> http://www.techusers.net/6/how-create-linux-bootable-usb-drive-mac-osx-using-dd-command
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that 
>> have CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility 
>> there is nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp.
>> 
>> So, I am stumped here, I was th

+ ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Karen Lewellen

All,
This is not a trifling matter.
Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
otherwise.

I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
Karen


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Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
iPads and iPod Touch devices.

If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
be hacked in the very near future.

http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/


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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Do you know which version of GarageBand you're running.  Version 6.0.5 or 
version 10.0.1?  You can figure this out by either going into your Applications 
folder and doing a cmd-i (Get Info) on your GarageBand app or by going under 
the GarageBand menu while in GarageBand and choosing About GarageBand.  In 
version 10.*.*, you need to make sure that you've chose the type of project you 
wish to work on, either new or existing, otherwise, the Help and Preferences 
stuff will be dimmed and thus, unavailable.  Also, make sure that Quick Help is 
turned off, that is, if it is checked in the Help menu, then uncheck it by 
going to it again and pressing return on it.

Later...



Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> yes, i can open up the help menu on other apps, i cant even open up the 
> preference of the garage band now, how can i report this? there's a menu on 
> the garage band and i cant click it either.
> On 24 Feb 2014, at 04:43 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> No need to re-install any more times.  I would usually guess that if it 
>> didn't work after the first re-install, that wasn't going to be the fix.  As 
>> a matter of interest though, does the Help Centre appear for you when 
>> accessing it from other apps like Mail, Preview or iTunes?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> ok, i reinstall my garage band now for 5 time now and i haven't got any 
>>> good result yet. i did even restart my computer after deleting the garage 
>>> band, so what i am doing wrong? any more suggestions?
>>> 
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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Fischler
No I have my preview pane closed so VO J wouldn't take me anywhere, the 
messages are opening but being hidden underneath my inbox and not opening 
properly.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:06 PM, isaac  wrote:

> First have you tried interacting with the text of the email with vo j? Try 
> interacting with the email with vo j to open it to see if that works.
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> After removing gmail and having it off my computer for a week, mac mail is 
>> working a lot better, but I am still experiencing quite a few annoying 
>> problems, and wanted to see if anyone had any work arounds or suggestions.
>> 
>> 1. In Mac mail hitting return doesn't open the message no matter how many 
>> times I hit return. To see the message I have to either use the window 
>> chooser menu to pull it up or toggle between another open program and back 
>> to mail and the message I hit return on is front and center.
>> 
>> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
>> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of 
>> my computer which usually fixes this did not.
>> 
>> 3. Bluetooth issues really annoying as my track pad constantly loses 
>> connectivity but I am able to reconnect it in the bluetooth menu after 
>> disconnecting and reconnecting. My Logictech K760 keyboard works for five 
>> minutes and then will not reconnect to the computer but if I restart my 
>> computer it will reconnect. The keyboard worked absolutely fine in Mountain 
>> Lion and this started as soon as I installed Mavericks.
>> 
>> 4. Programs are still very slow to launch and I am still getting what seems 
>> like way to many busy busy messages in many programs.
>> 
>> Any advice?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-24 Thread Chris H
Well on Windows it's actually called Uefi if I'm correct. It works like 
Efi with some differences obviously but wouldn't know what they are. My 
nearly dying laptop uses the good old inaccessible bios.


Regards Chris

On 24/02/2014 22:12, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Chris,

You may have brought up something. I have been seeing something about EFI, but 
did not know what that means. Now the million dollar question, where can I find 
a EFI Vinux? lol. I may just have Vinux boot up on my Windows machine and use 
the Startup program to make a bootable USB.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


The link pasted below to a discussion thread might help you track down some 
answers. Apparently Windows boxes use BIOS and Macs use EFI firmware for 
bootstrapping the machine. So while the Linux bases are nearly identical, the 
bootup process is different and you'll need to have an EFI-based booter to make 
things go. Most distributions assume a BIOS-based box.

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/why-wont-my-macbook-pro-boot-from-a-linux-live-cd

CB

On 2/22/14 10:43 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my flash 
drive to be bootable too. More research!

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac though.  
If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your Mac won't boot 
from it no matter which method you try.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:


Hello,

I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the bootable 
cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd is bootable. I 
have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, but I am not sure the 
program that you are to use on the Mac is accessable, and it involves command 
line use. That is over my head lol.

But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there issomething on 
the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. Vinux should start 
talking when it starts up, so now I think the bootable cd is now working, I 
just need to find a sighted person.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than you're doing, or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending that you do.  Disk Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of your CD.  Your absolute best method is to go into the System Preferences, press on Startup Disks and see if the CD that you hope to boot from is listed there.  If it is, VO-space on it then navigate over to the Restart button.  If it's not there, then your CD is not bootable by your Mac.  Holding down the Option key at startup will only give you the list of possible Startup Disks that this pane gives you while in System Preferences, with the added issue that it is not accessible.  For the most part, the Option key method is only useful to you once you know that something is bootable.  There are a number of reasons why it may not boot with your Mac including disk format, external vs internal device etc.  Here's an article on creating a bootable USB drive that may assist you 

in this endeavour.


http://www.techusers.net/6/how-create-linux-bootable-usb-drive-mac-osx-using-dd-command

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:


Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that have 
CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there is 
nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp.

So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at startup, 
but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there are three 
options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is which option is 
the CD drive?

Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
Daniel Hawk

mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Josh

Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and 
games work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?


Josh

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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> 
> I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
> have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
> outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?
> 
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Chris,

Ok, I did some research, I could not find a compatiable Vinux with EFI support. 
But I did find the Mac-Linux usb loader, it is here 
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-boot-a-linux-live-usb-stick-on-your-mac/

that’s how you use it. So far I just tried the app, and it looks completely 
accessable. Hooray!, now off to finding a supported Vinux.

Btw, is there another way to boot from a usb instead of hitting Options at 
startup?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Well on Windows it's actually called Uefi if I'm correct. It works like Efi 
> with some differences obviously but wouldn't know what they are. My nearly 
> dying laptop uses the good old inaccessible bios.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> On 24/02/2014 22:12, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> You may have brought up something. I have been seeing something about EFI, 
>> but did not know what that means. Now the million dollar question, where can 
>> I find a EFI Vinux? lol. I may just have Vinux boot up on my Windows machine 
>> and use the Startup program to make a bootable USB.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> The link pasted below to a discussion thread might help you track down some 
>>> answers. Apparently Windows boxes use BIOS and Macs use EFI firmware for 
>>> bootstrapping the machine. So while the Linux bases are nearly identical, 
>>> the bootup process is different and you'll need to have an EFI-based booter 
>>> to make things go. Most distributions assume a BIOS-based box.
>>> 
>>> http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/why-wont-my-macbook-pro-boot-from-a-linux-live-cd
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/22/14 10:43 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my 
 flash drive to be bootable too. More research!
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
 iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 NVDA installed
 
 Phonak Compilot
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac 
> though.  If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your 
> Mac won't boot from it no matter which method you try.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the 
>> bootable cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd 
>> is bootable. I have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, 
>> but I am not sure the program that you are to use on the Mac is 
>> accessable, and it involves command line use. That is over my head lol.
>> 
>> But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there 
>> issomething on the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. 
>> Vinux should start talking when it starts up, so now I think the 
>> bootable cd is now working, I just need to find a sighted person.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than 
>>> you're doing, or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending 
>>> that you do.  Disk Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of 
>>> your CD.  Your absolute best method is to go into the System 
>>> Preference

Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Jim Gatteys
is this message for real?  has anyone checked it out yet?
Jim

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> All,
> This is not a trifling matter.
> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
> otherwise.
> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
> Karen
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:55:57 -0800
> Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
>iPads and iPod Touch devices.
> 
> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
> be hacked in the very near future.
> 
> http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/
> 
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Karen Lewellen

Same information is in the christian science monitor newspaper too.


On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jim Gatteys wrote:


is this message for real?  has anyone checked it out yet?
Jim

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:


All,
This is not a trifling matter.
Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than otherwise.
I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
Karen


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:55:57 -0800
Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
   iPads and iPod Touch devices.

If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
be hacked in the very near future.

http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/


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TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I want an app, preferably free, VO friendly, which I can use with my Braille 
Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American novel. Thanks! 
 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Jim,

I'm affraid yes. I just tested both my Mac Air running ML and it's not 
infected, but my iPhone is. The phone is running 6.1.2. Right now, I am 
debating to jailbreak or just do the update to iOS 7 to be secure. HTH.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> is this message for real?  has anyone checked it out yet?
> Jim
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> This is not a trifling matter.
>> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
>> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
>> otherwise.
>> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
>> Karen
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:55:57 -0800
>> Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
>>   iPads and iPod Touch devices.
>> 
>> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
>> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
>> be hacked in the very near future.
>> 
>> http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/
>> 
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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there 
I guess you know, and I didn't at first, that you can write text files with 
your Braille Edge 40 in grade 2 braille and they get translated. I thought you 
had to write the text files in computer braille, but no. 

I do this all the time these days, then copy the text files to my Mac and edit 
in TextEdit if I feel like it. Then I can use, if I want, command shift t to 
make it into a rtf file. What I really want these days is the ability to write 
rtf file on my Braille Edge 40. You can read them these days, but if you make 
the mistake like I did once of trying to save an rtf file, you lock up the 
Braille Edge 40. 

Regards,
Gigi


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> Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American novel. 
> Thanks!  
> 
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, this message is for real. It is why Apple released iOS 7.0.6 shortly 
before the upcoming release of iOS 7.1. The flaw in the SSL was found quite 
recently. Consider the iOS 7.0.6 update to be a critical update.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Feb 2014, at 12:38, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Same information is in the christian science monitor newspaper too.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> 
>> is this message for real?  has anyone checked it out yet?
>> Jim
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> This is not a trifling matter.
>>> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
>>> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
>>> otherwise.
>>> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:55:57 -0800
>>> Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
>>>   iPads and iPod Touch devices.
>>> 
>>> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
>>> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
>>> be hacked in the very near future.
>>> 
>>> http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/
>>> 
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
If I understand correctly, it's not a matter of being infected. It's a 
programming mistake that leaves your device vunerable and needs to be patched 
but it isn't an infection per se unless somebody has capitalized on it and 
hacked your device.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> I'm affraid yes. I just tested both my Mac Air running ML and it's not 
> infected, but my iPhone is. The phone is running 6.1.2. Right now, I am 
> debating to jailbreak or just do the update to iOS 7 to be secure. HTH.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
>> is this message for real?  has anyone checked it out yet?
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>>> All,
>>> This is not a trifling matter.
>>> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
>>> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
>>> otherwise.
>>> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
>>> Karen
>>> 
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>>> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
>>> be hacked in the very near future.
>>> 
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
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> 
> Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
>> anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games 
>> work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?
>> 
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Josh
outspoken was the first graphical screen reader made for mac and windows 
back in the late 1980s and through the mid 1990s.

made by alva.

using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
It is a screen-reader used in early Mac operating systems. It's not used in Mac 
Os X. 

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
>>> anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games 
>>> work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?
>>> 
>>> Josh
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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Hi Gigi.
Not sure how to back translate to text once I save a document in grade 2 on the 
Edge. Also? The only way to get a file from the Edge to the Mac is to remove 
the SD card from the edge. So, tell me what I'm missing? Thanks! 

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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there 
> I guess you know, and I didn't at first, that you can write text files with 
> your Braille Edge 40 in grade 2 braille and they get translated. I thought 
> you had to write the text files in computer braille, but no. 
> 
> I do this all the time these days, then copy the text files to my Mac and 
> edit in TextEdit if I feel like it. Then I can use, if I want, command shift 
> t to make it into a rtf file. What I really want these days is the ability to 
> write rtf file on my Braille Edge 40. You can read them these days, but if 
> you make the mistake like I did once of trying to save an rtf file, you lock 
> up the Braille Edge 40. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I want an app, preferably free, VO friendly, which I can use with my Braille 
>> Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American novel. 
>> Thanks!  
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
Was that the same as Intelitalk, or was that a completely different program?  
One of my classmates and I used to use it on occasion along with prowords, and 
I liked its speach as opposed to the echo, but the program itself was extremely 
slow.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Josh wrote:

> outspoken was the first graphical screen reader made for mac and windows back 
> in the late 1980s and through the mid 1990s.
> made by alva.
> 
> using windows7 laptop
> 
> On 2/24/2014 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 
 I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
 anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games 
 work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?
 
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
How does that differ from voiceover?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> It is a screen-reader used in early Mac operating systems. It's not used in 
> Mac Os X. 
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>> Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
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>>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 
 I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
 anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games 
 work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?
 
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Karen Lewellen

The screen reader for apple products prior to voiceover and os x


On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jessica Moss wrote:


Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:


Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

VoiceOver is built-in to MacOS X whereas OutSpoken was an add-on to the 
pre-MacOS X operating systems.  Similar to the various screen-readers available 
for Windows, you had to install it after the fact.  It was a great little 
screen-reader for it's time but Apple decided to try to make it's accessibility 
features even better by having them be available to everyone always.  Things 
like the NumPad controller kind of take their feel from the original OutSpoken 
interface.

No, it was much different than the IntelliTalk system.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> How does that differ from voiceover?
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> It is a screen-reader used in early Mac operating systems. It's not used in 
>> Mac Os X. 
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
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> Hi
> 
> I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
> anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and 
> games work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?
> 
> Josh
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Amazon Kendle App versuses Audiblee App

2014-02-24 Thread Angus MacKinnon
I was thiking of downloading the Amazon Kendle App and/or Audible App on my 
iPhone 5 S. What is the point. Same owner and books. The Kendle Books can be 
read by Siri. Which should I download? The Kendle App or Audible App.

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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there 
That's just it. You don't have to back translate anything. That's the beauty of 
it. the Edge does the back translating as you go. I was real surprised when I 
found out about this. You set your new file to be a text file, and you set your 
translator to be the kind of braille you want like English or UEB or whatever. 
Then you just braille in it, copy your file to your Mac, and presto, translated 
braille file. 

I also found out you can paste from a brf file into your text file, and presto, 
it's translated. 

Regards,
Gigi

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> Hi Gigi.
> Not sure how to back translate to text once I save a document in grade 2 on 
> the Edge. Also? The only way to get a file from the Edge to the Mac is to 
> remove the SD card from the edge. So, tell me what I'm missing? Thanks! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone



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> 
>> Hi there 
>> I guess you know, and I didn't at first, that you can write text files with 
>> your Braille Edge 40 in grade 2 braille and they get translated. I thought 
>> you had to write the text files in computer braille, but no. 
>> 
>> I do this all the time these days, then copy the text files to my Mac and 
>> edit in TextEdit if I feel like it. Then I can use, if I want, command shift 
>> t to make it into a rtf file. What I really want these days is the ability 
>> to write rtf file on my Braille Edge 40. You can read them these days, but 
>> if you make the mistake like I did once of trying to save an rtf file, you 
>> lock up the Braille Edge 40. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I want an app, preferably free, VO friendly, which I can use with my 
>>> Braille Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American 
>>> novel. Thanks!  
>>> 
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
I remember our creative writing/English3 teacher at FSDB had some program of 
some sort on the mac she used that was audible but didn't seem to be a 
full-fledged sceen reader, unless she didn't use it as one, sense that computer 
was pretty much for her use only, but it would ask the usual "are you sure you 
want to shut down your computer now?" and if you wanted to, you could click on 
stuff from the internet and have the program read it, but not sure what it did 
aside from that, so have no idea what the program was called.
  I remember it having all those wild robotic-sounding voices that voiceover 
stilll comes with, that would be fun to use as sound affects, but would never 
use as reading voices.
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> Hi,
> 
> VoiceOver is built-in to MacOS X whereas OutSpoken was an add-on to the 
> pre-MacOS X operating systems.  Similar to the various screen-readers 
> available for Windows, you had to install it after the fact.  It was a great 
> little screen-reader for it's time but Apple decided to try to make it's 
> accessibility features even better by having them be available to everyone 
> always.  Things like the NumPad controller kind of take their feel from the 
> original OutSpoken interface.
> 
> No, it was much different than the IntelliTalk system.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> How does that differ from voiceover?
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> It is a screen-reader used in early Mac operating systems. It's not used in 
>>> Mac Os X. 
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
 Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
 On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does 
>> anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and 
>> games work with outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 
>> emulator?
>> 
>> Josh
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Josh
I never heard of intelitalk. outspoken is for windows 3.1 windows95 and 
mac os7 and os8.


using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:53 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Was that the same as Intelitalk, or was that a completely different program?  
One of my classmates and I used to use it on occasion along with prowords, and 
I liked its speach as opposed to the echo, but the program itself was extremely 
slow.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Josh wrote:


outspoken was the first graphical screen reader made for mac and windows back 
in the late 1980s and through the mid 1990s.
made by alva.

using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:


Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Josh
it is very different. there is no interacting with objects and stop 
interacting. and you use the numPad for everything almost.



using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:54 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

How does that differ from voiceover?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:


It is a screen-reader used in early Mac operating systems. It's not used in Mac 
Os X.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:


Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you something.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:


Hi

I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. does anyone 
have a list of outspoken commands? also what applications and games work with 
outspoken and how do I install them into mac os7 emulator?

Josh

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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
I forgot to say when I replied last time that yes the only way to get your 
files out of your braille  display is to take the card out. I just make sure 
that I take the card out after I have done the space Z command to get out of 
the notepad program. I don't know if I have to do that, but I am chicken not 
too. Ever since a long time ago my husband fried my Apple II by putting in a 
card without turning it off, I have been very leery about taking things in and 
out without getting out of my program or turning off my device  off.  However, 
I have not found this to be a problem at all.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gigi.
> Not sure how to back translate to text once I save a document in grade 2 on 
> the Edge. Also? The only way to get a file from the Edge to the Mac is to 
> remove the SD card from the edge. So, tell me what I'm missing? Thanks! 
> 
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> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there 
>> I guess you know, and I didn't at first, that you can write text files with 
>> your Braille Edge 40 in grade 2 braille and they get translated. I thought 
>> you had to write the text files in computer braille, but no. 
>> 
>> I do this all the time these days, then copy the text files to my Mac and 
>> edit in TextEdit if I feel like it. Then I can use, if I want, command shift 
>> t to make it into a rtf file. What I really want these days is the ability 
>> to write rtf file on my Braille Edge 40. You can read them these days, but 
>> if you make the mistake like I did once of trying to save an rtf file, you 
>> lock up the Braille Edge 40. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I want an app, preferably free, VO friendly, which I can use with my 
>>> Braille Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American 
>>> novel. Thanks!  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Okay, and how is the translation from grade 2 to plain text accomplished?  This 
is OT for the list so 

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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> I forgot to say when I replied last time that yes the only way to get your 
> files out of your braille  display is to take the card out. I just make sure 
> that I take the card out after I have done the space Z command to get out of 
> the notepad program. I don't know if I have to do that, but I am chicken not 
> too. Ever since a long time ago my husband fried my Apple II by putting in a 
> card without turning it off, I have been very leery about taking things in 
> and out without getting out of my program or turning off my device  off.  
> However, I have not found this to be a problem at all.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gigi.
>> Not sure how to back translate to text once I save a document in grade 2 on 
>> the Edge. Also? The only way to get a file from the Edge to the Mac is to 
>> remove the SD card from the edge. So, tell me what I'm missing? Thanks! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969
>> My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net
>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there 
>>> I guess you know, and I didn't at first, that you can write text files with 
>>> your Braille Edge 40 in grade 2 braille and they get translated. I thought 
>>> you had to write the text files in computer braille, but no. 
>>> 
>>> I do this all the time these days, then copy the text files to my Mac and 
>>> edit in TextEdit if I feel like it. Then I can use, if I want, command 
>>> shift t to make it into a rtf file. What I really want these days is the 
>>> ability to write rtf file on my Braille Edge 40. You can read them these 
>>> days, but if you make the mistake like I did once of trying to save an rtf 
>>> file, you lock up the Braille Edge 40. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
  wrote:
 
 I want an app, preferably free, VO friendly, which I can use with my 
 Braille Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American 
 novel. Thanks!  
 
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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2014-02-24 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Oh, the simplicity of it! :) thanks. I shall play with this sons more. 

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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there 
> That's just it. You don't have to back translate anything. That's the beauty 
> of it. the Edge does the back translating as you go. I was real surprised 
> when I found out about this. You set your new file to be a text file, and you 
> set your translator to be the kind of braille you want like English or UEB or 
> whatever. Then you just braille in it, copy your file to your Mac, and 
> presto, translated braille file. 
> 
> I also found out you can paste from a brf file into your text file, and 
> presto, it's translated. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gigi.
>> Not sure how to back translate to text once I save a document in grade 2 on 
>> the Edge. Also? The only way to get a file from the Edge to the Mac is to 
>> remove the SD card from the edge. So, tell me what I'm missing? Thanks! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969
>> My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net
>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there 
>>> I guess you know, and I didn't at first, that you can write text files with 
>>> your Braille Edge 40 in grade 2 braille and they get translated. I thought 
>>> you had to write the text files in computer braille, but no. 
>>> 
>>> I do this all the time these days, then copy the text files to my Mac and 
>>> edit in TextEdit if I feel like it. Then I can use, if I want, command 
>>> shift t to make it into a rtf file. What I really want these days is the 
>>> ability to write rtf file on my Braille Edge 40. You can read them these 
>>> days, but if you make the mistake like I did once of trying to save an rtf 
>>> file, you lock up the Braille Edge 40. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
  wrote:
 
 I want an app, preferably free, VO friendly, which I can use with my 
 Braille Edge 40 to do simple text  documents, such as the great American 
 novel. Thanks!  
 
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Re: mac os7 with outspoken

2014-02-24 Thread Karen Lewellen

and os 9 as well.


On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Josh wrote:

I never heard of intelitalk. outspoken is for windows 3.1 windows95 and mac 
os7 and os8.


using windows7 laptop

On 2/24/2014 7:53 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

 Was that the same as Intelitalk, or was that a completely different
 program?  One of my classmates and I used to use it on occasion along with
 prowords, and I liked its speach as opposed to the echo, but the program
 itself was extremely slow.
 On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Josh wrote:

>  outspoken was the first graphical screen reader made for mac and windows 
>  back in the late 1980s and through the mid 1990s.

>  made by alva.
> 
>  using windows7 laptop
> 
>  On 2/24/2014 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

> >  Ok, looks like I'm out of the loop here, what's outspoken?
> >  On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> > 
> > >  Hi,
> > > 
> > >  Wow, this goes way back.  eMail me off-list and I'll get you 
> > >  something.
> > > 
> > >  Later...
> > > 
> > >  Tim Kilburn

> > >  Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> > > 
> > >  On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Josh  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  Hi
> > > > 
> > > >  I am running mac os7 with outspoken in an emulator under windows. 
> > > >  does anyone have a list of outspoken commands? also what 
> > > >  applications and games work with outspoken and how do I install 
> > > >  them into mac os7 emulator?
> > > > 
> > > >  Josh
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Chris Blouch
Not sure about how serious the issue is but the IT folks where I work 
have asked everyone to upgrade their iOS devices.


CB

On 2/24/14 6:35 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:

is this message for real?  has anyone checked it out yet?
Jim

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:


All,
This is not a trifling matter.
Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than otherwise.
I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
Karen


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If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
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Re: Disappearing Finder

2014-02-24 Thread Antonio Guimaraes
Thanks Tim,

I've rebooted the Mac, and got finder back.

Antonio

On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Have you restarted your Mac?  Force Quitting the Finder often causes lots of 
> issues from a VO prospective prior to a restart.  The restart should fix 
> those sorts of things.  Also sometimes, when the Finder seems to be working 
> but VO won't display any windows, press cmd-shift-h to open your Home 
> directory then cmd-w to close it and all Finder windows will work again.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I force quit finder the otter day since it was not responding.
>> 
>> Now I can't bring up a finder window, and so can't get to my files, which 
>> makes my computer nearly useless.
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Antonio
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Jim Gatteys
so what about upgrades for macs running mavericks?
jg

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> This is not a trifling matter.
> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
> otherwise.
> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
> Karen
> 
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>iPads and iPod Touch devices.
> 
> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
> be hacked in the very near future.
> 
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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Alex, No haven't done a clean install yet, as I have a mail folder that I 
had to recover and really want to finish going through it before doing a clean 
install as I can't access this folder on my other devices, not sure if I can 
move it all as it is so large, got it down from 97,000 messages to 59,000 but 
still have a long way to go, and want to pull the important messages I need to 
save from it before doing a clean install.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Is this after a clean install? My app launching problems disappeared, so long 
> as I don't have a resource hog like Xcode open, after I did that. I've not 
> seen the mail problem you describe, and I rarely use iTunes or bluetooth. 
> Sorry I can't help more, but my first thought is a clean install if you 
> haven't done one.
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> After removing gmail and having it off my computer for a week, mac mail is 
>> working a lot better, but I am still experiencing quite a few annoying 
>> problems, and wanted to see if anyone had any work arounds or suggestions.
>> 
>> 1. In Mac mail hitting return doesn't open the message no matter how many 
>> times I hit return. To see the message I have to either use the window 
>> chooser menu to pull it up or toggle between another open program and back 
>> to mail and the message I hit return on is front and center.
>> 
>> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
>> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of 
>> my computer which usually fixes this did not.
>> 
>> 3. Bluetooth issues really annoying as my track pad constantly loses 
>> connectivity but I am able to reconnect it in the bluetooth menu after 
>> disconnecting and reconnecting. My Logictech K760 keyboard works for five 
>> minutes and then will not reconnect to the computer but if I restart my 
>> computer it will reconnect. The keyboard worked absolutely fine in Mountain 
>> Lion and this started as soon as I installed Mavericks.
>> 
>> 4. Programs are still very slow to launch and I am still getting what seems 
>> like way to many busy busy messages in many programs.
>> 
>> Any advice?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: A Few Annoying Problems Still in Mavericks Any Work Arounds

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Fischler
I am in my main library of songs in list view trying to get the contextual menu 
to drop down to add a song to a playlist also in my recently added list as I am 
trying to label a movie that wasn't properly labeled from blind mice.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:44 PM, gkearney  wrote:

> Hello;
> 
> Could I get a few more details on item number 2 on this list? Just where 
> within iTunes does this problem exhibit itself? Are you on a particular 
> control that you expect a contexual menu to appear? What would that item be?
> 
> Any help would be welcome.
> 
> On Monday, 24 February 2014 12:54:16 UTC-8, Brian Fischler wrote:
> 
> 2. In iTunes the contextual menu just stops working meaning when I hit VO 
> shift M nothing happens, this only happens in iTunes and a recent restart of 
> my computer which usually fixes this did not. 
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Chris Blouch

According to the article you can just go to the website

gotofail.com

to test if your browser is susceptible to the bug. I went with my Safari 
6.1.1 on OSX 10.8.5 and it said my browser was fine. So maybe some other 
update fixed it on OSX.


CB

On 2/24/14 10:41 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:

so what about upgrades for macs running mavericks?
jg

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All,
This is not a trifling matter.
Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than otherwise.
I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
Karen


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about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
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facebook question

2014-02-24 Thread don bishop
I've tried  to do this on the mac and the iphone, but can't figure out how to 
do it. 
I want to hide the posts from a particular person and still be a friend.  I'm 
sure there's a way to do this.  Can I do it from the m.facebook site or the 
standard facebook site, and how do I do it? 
Thanks,
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
I’ve read that Mac updates are coming ASAP.

Teresa

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dark to read.”—Groucho Marx

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> According to the article you can just go to the website
> 
> gotofail.com
> 
> to test if your browser is susceptible to the bug. I went with my Safari 
> 6.1.1 on OSX 10.8.5 and it said my browser was fine. So maybe some other 
> update fixed it on OSX.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/24/14 10:41 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> so what about upgrades for macs running mavericks?
>> jg
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> This is not a trifling matter.
>>> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
>>> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
>>> otherwise.
>>> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
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>>> Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
>>>iPads and iPod Touch devices.
>>> 
>>> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
>>> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
>>> be hacked in the very near future.
>>> 
>>> http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/
>>> 
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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
thanks tim, i get it, i need to go first on some project to click the help tab, 
and to open up the preferences, thanks for the help.
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> Hi,
> 
> Do you know which version of GarageBand you're running.  Version 6.0.5 or 
> version 10.0.1?  You can figure this out by either going into your 
> Applications folder and doing a cmd-i (Get Info) on your GarageBand app or by 
> going under the GarageBand menu while in GarageBand and choosing About 
> GarageBand.  In version 10.*.*, you need to make sure that you've chose the 
> type of project you wish to work on, either new or existing, otherwise, the 
> Help and Preferences stuff will be dimmed and thus, unavailable.  Also, make 
> sure that Quick Help is turned off, that is, if it is checked in the Help 
> menu, then uncheck it by going to it again and pressing return on it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> yes, i can open up the help menu on other apps, i cant even open up the 
>> preference of the garage band now, how can i report this? there's a menu on 
>> the garage band and i cant click it either.
>> On 24 Feb 2014, at 04:43 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> No need to re-install any more times.  I would usually guess that if it 
>>> didn't work after the first re-install, that wasn't going to be the fix.  
>>> As a matter of interest though, does the Help Centre appear for you when 
>>> accessing it from other apps like Mail, Preview or iTunes?
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 ok, i reinstall my garage band now for 5 time now and i haven't got any 
 good result yet. i did even restart my computer after deleting the garage 
 band, so what i am doing wrong? any more suggestions?
 
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
how to patch mine, it said my browser was receptable to virus
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> According to the article you can just go to the website
> 
> gotofail.com
> 
> to test if your browser is susceptible to the bug. I went with my Safari 
> 6.1.1 on OSX 10.8.5 and it said my browser was fine. So maybe some other 
> update fixed it on OSX.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/24/14 10:41 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> so what about upgrades for macs running mavericks?
>> jg
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> This is not a trifling matter.
>>> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
>>> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
>>> otherwise.
>>> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:55:57 -0800
>>> Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
>>>iPads and iPod Touch devices.
>>> 
>>> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
>>> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
>>> be hacked in the very near future.
>>> 
>>> http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/
>>> 
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Re: + ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch devices. )

2014-02-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
>From what I read, the problem with a fix for Mac OS is that the browser isn't 
>the only app made vulnerable by the programming problem. So the fix would have 
>to involve maybe the whole OS or at least a particular component across apps 
>if I understood it rightly.

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On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> According to the article you can just go to the website
> 
> gotofail.com
> 
> to test if your browser is susceptible to the bug. I went with my Safari 
> 6.1.1 on OSX 10.8.5 and it said my browser was fine. So maybe some other 
> update fixed it on OSX.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/24/14 10:41 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> so what about upgrades for macs running mavericks?
>> jg
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> This is not a trifling matter.
>>> Perhaps? discussed here already, but sharing just in case.
>>> My source is a very reliable technical reporter, so better safe than 
>>> otherwise.
>>> I might add there is wisdom for os x users too.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:55:57 -0800
>>> Subject: +[SurvPC] ATTENTION: Immediately install patch for iPhones,
>>>iPads and iPod Touch devices.
>>> 
>>> If you use an Apple mobile product. You had best fix it now - that is
>>> about 100 million units worldwide. IF you do not fix it now, expect to
>>> be hacked in the very near future.
>>> 
>>> http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/02/24/apples-massive-goto-fail-fixed-in-ios-but-not-in-os-x/
>>> 
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Re: Amazon Kendle App versuses Audiblee App

2014-02-24 Thread Danny Noonan
The only way to read kindle books on an iOS device is with the kindle app. Yes 
it uses the VoiceOver voice but the app has to be installed to access the 
books. 

Although amazon own audible and kindle this doesn't make them the same. Kindle 
books are ebooks so digital print/text books. Audible books as the name implies 
are audio books or talking books if you rather. They play in either the audible 
app or in the music app but in the music app have to be loaded from a computer. 

There are many more kindle titles and their usually cheaper but can only be 
listened to via your voice overs peach so you don't get human narration which 
can be a negative or a posative depending on several issues such as navigatio 
of material, quality of narration and personal preference. 


Danny. 
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> On 25 Feb 2014, at 12:16 pm, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:
> 
> I was thiking of downloading the Amazon Kendle App and/or Audible App on my 
> iPhone 5 S. What is the point. Same owner and books. The Kendle Books can be 
> read by Siri. Which should I download? The Kendle App or Audible App.
> 
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Re: opening links within a keynote presentation?

2014-02-24 Thread Daniela Rubio
Did you try VO+CMD+space and then show menu?

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El 24/02/2014, a las 21:20, Jessica  escribió:

> Yes, it did the same as earlier. I am currently in the associated text field 
> instead. The option is not available in the context menu.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:08 PM, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you try interacting with the link then pressing vo space.
>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I am trying to open a link in a slide of a keynote presentation I made. I 
>>> am just testing it out so I know how to open them in the future. I did vO 
>>> space on the text I had written which represents the link. It entered the 
>>> text field. what am I doing wrong?
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Playing DVD's on the Mac

2014-02-24 Thread Andrew Head
Hi Tim,
That's great information, I'll remember that, but is there another dvd player 
for the mac that displays titles and chapters in a nice accessible format, like 
how dvd audio extractor does under windows? 
Kind regards,
Andrew 
On 22 Feb 2014, at 3:29 am, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A couple things to try in DVD player.
> 
> * Once the DVD has loaded, go up to the menubar with VO-m and over to the Go 
> menu, down to Title and choose one of the Title options to see what plays.
> * Normally, if the DVD has just one Title, with a number of Chapters, then it 
> should play all Chapters once it starts playing.  If the DVD is set up like a 
> bunch of episodes of a TV Show where the different episodes are actually 
> different titles, then each one has to be accessed separately.
> * On occasion, you can press return after the DVD has loaded, press the down 
> or right arrow key a number of times and get one of the other titles to play.
> 
> The problem here is that the DVD menu on any given DVD is simply a graphical 
> representation, and there usually isn't anything for VO to grab ahold of so 
> it can be read.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> to us.
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> I have a DVD I would like to play. It has five parts. 
>> When I loaded it into my Mac I found the Play button but nothing happens. I 
>> actually got the first part to play once, but that's about it and never any 
>> of the second part etc. 
>> So I loaded it into VLC. I turned off the DVD menu because I read that 
>> somewhere and I could see the play again, but only the first chapter plays 
>> once again. And the audio was very choppy like the dVD was damaged which it 
>> is not.
>> So I downloaded dVD Extractor. I've used that on windows and it's accessible 
>> there to both play and rip the audio. On the mac none of the buttons were 
>> labeled but the hints gave me clues if those clues are to be believed. I can 
>> play the first chapter, and of course can't play any of the subsequent ones. 
>> Same when i go to extract the audio, it doesn't extract any other than the 
>> first chapter or give me the option to do so. 
>> So is this about copyright or something or is there something i'm doing 
>> wrong? I can see or rip all the chapters in windows, but can't play or rip 
>> any on the Mac no matter what I do so far. 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> deb
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Vo Command space?

2014-02-24 Thread Chris H

Hi all
What exactly does vo command space do? Thanks.

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