Clock Radio

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,
does anyone of know of a clock radio for the iPhone? I know there are a lot in 
the App Store but which is accessible with VO? 
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

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Re: it's official, I am an idiot!

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Settings general.

On 26 Sep 2013, at 01:52 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> You can still mute the voice over sounds, just not with the mute switch. I 
> read about that in Jonathan's book, but right now I can't remember where you 
> go to do it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> This is true.
>> I wish they would mute the VO sounds so that, in axe of times like that when 
>> you mute your phone, you know.
>> Matt Dierckens
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> 
>> IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
>> Sight Substitution Centre
>> 
>> On 2013-09-25, at 8:32 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> This pertains to my complaints about missing ringtones.  Indeed, the mute 
>>> had been accidentally turned on.  But here is a warning for all.  The 
>>> reason I didn't figure it out is because I could still hear the voiceover 
>>> sounds and assumed that because the phone was still making sounds the mute 
>>> was not on.  I could also hear the ringtone on my timer and alarm.  
>>> Apparently these are not effected when the mute is on?  Can anyone clarify 
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> Thank you Ray, I owe you one!
>>> Jean
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Re: has anyone been able to return audible books successfully with voice over?

[Nicholas Parsons]

I'm not sure about this particular issue as I've never tried returning audible 
books, but for some links on the new audible site I've noticed that VO-SPACE 
doesn't work, but just hitting space bar works. Hopefully that might help.

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Re: Chapters in audio books in iOS 7

[Nicholas Parsons]

In the music player (that is, the view with the actual play/pause button 
etcetera), there is a button near the top which says track list. Does this give 
you what you want?

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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Nicholas Parsons]

My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. GPS 
and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once getting 
turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match music over 
3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's battery down to 
about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch the directions for 
the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm connected to wifi, however, I 
seem to get a day or so from one charge. That is, the battery isn't fully dead 
when I go to bed and charge it up again. If I'm off wifi for the day but don't 
do anything crazy (like heavy use of GPS or 3G) my battery will probably die in 
the evening once I'm home again, but before going to bed.
I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.

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Re: gmail help?

[Nicholas Parsons]

I'd also recommend Googling MacWorld and TidBits articles on making gmail work 
with Apple Mail. Take Control of Mail is also a great book in this regard. 
Gmail IMAP works differently to regular IMAP, and so takes some tweaking to 
work properly with Apple Mail. I'd love to help you but there are so many 
variables it's a bit hard to check them all via email.

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Re: Strange thing with my iPhone just now

[Nicholas Parsons]

Yes, I completely lost VoiceOver for a while. Funnily enough, it happened just 
as I went to demonstrate Twitter with VoiceOver for a friend who is thinking of 
buying an iPHone for the first time and wanted to know how accessible it was. 
Wasn't a great demonstration. :)
Triple Click Home wasn't working for me and it just seemed completely silent. I 
think I may have eventually got it to work again with Siri, but I can't 
remember now. I'm just glad it did eventually fix itself.

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Re: Chapters in audio books in iOS 7

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Nik,
thanks for your reply. In iOS 6 there was this button but it has changed in iOS 
7. It's still there but the function is different now. If I press on it all the 
audio files apear the audiobook contains but not the chapters of a book. In iOS 
6 the chapters apeared after pressing this button. 
Could you please try this button out and see if it's the same for you? Can you 
see just the audio files of this particular book or can you see the chapters?
An audio book from the iTunes Store  for example comes in one file but contains 
several chapters. After pressing Tracklist I just can see the name of this 
single audio file but not a list of chapters.
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

Am 26.09.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Nicholas Parsons :

> In the music player (that is, the view with the actual play/pause button 
> etcetera), there is a button near the top which says track list. Does this 
> give you what you want?
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I messaging.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Can someone tell me if you write to someone who has an I phone 4 if you are 
using a later model, can you still do I messaging?

,thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: Strange thing with my iPhone just now

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
Oh well, maybe you can just tell your friend this computers were talking about 
anyway! Every time they update anything, something happens.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I completely lost VoiceOver for a while. Funnily enough, it happened 
> just as I went to demonstrate Twitter with VoiceOver for a friend who is 
> thinking of buying an iPHone for the first time and wanted to know how 
> accessible it was. Wasn't a great demonstration. :)
> Triple Click Home wasn't working for me and it just seemed completely silent. 
> I think I may have eventually got it to work again with Siri, but I can't 
> remember now. I'm just glad it did eventually fix itself.
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Eugenia Firth]

it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they don't 
just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started giving me 
less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it might be 
beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
Regards,
Gigi Hi there
I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up getting 
my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I suspected I 
might have a problem.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. GPS 
> and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once getting 
> turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match music over 
> 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's battery down to 
> about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch the directions for 
> the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm connected to wifi, however, 
> I seem to get a day or so from one charge. That is, the battery isn't fully 
> dead when I go to bed and charge it up again. If I'm off wifi for the day but 
> don't do anything crazy (like heavy use of GPS or 3G) my battery will 
> probably die in the evening once I'm home again, but before going to bed.
> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
> 
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pages question

[Cait and Maggie]

Hi,
I am wondering how to go about getting pages back on my mac.

When I first got my mac, I also purchased an I work cd from apple.  My mac came 
with pages already installed.  We also put pages on Mark's mac, which was 
allowed.

somewhere along the way of upgrading OS's, pages isn't on my mac anymore.  I 
can't find the original CD, either.

I copied the i work folder from Mark's applications folder and pasted it on 
mine.  I got the message that I needed to be running the latest version, but 
there was no button to update, etc, just that error message.

there is no record of my purchasing I work in the mac app store, of course.

Will I have to buy each element of I work again just to get the latest versions?

thanks,
Cait

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RE: I messaging.

[Kliphton]

Yes you can.  Even to iPod and iPad also.

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To: macvisionaries
Subject: I messaging.

Can someone tell me if you write to someone who has an I phone 4 if you are
using a later model, can you still do I messaging?

,thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Massimo Vettoretti,

I tried it all out and some I can confirm. I'll comment sequentially.

1. I did not know you could use the rotor to select a field on a contact card 
that you want to edit. I tried it this way: I open contacts, open a random 
card, hit edit, and then I turn the rotor. No contact specific information is 
in the rotor. Is there supposed to be any contact related stuff in the rotor 
that you know of, once you are editing a card? I can no longer try it out on 
IOS 6, because I only have one IOS device and I'm on 7 now.
Also, I did try to edit a name and a family name, both with no luck. That 
surprised me. But what happens here, is that even when having the rotor on 
characters, it is impossible to move the text entry cursor across a family name 
or first name field, character by character. Flicking up or down with the rotor 
set to characters, just bonks at me. In IOS 6, it used to move the cursor one 
character at a time with each flick. That no longer happens, making it 
impossible to edit a contact's first or family name.

2. Regarding the cursor to start and cursor to end issue: it only says cursor 
to start of edit field, but as I said above, there is no way to move the 
cursor, so I cannot check at all whether or not the text cursor is at the start 
or at the end of the field. But that it's now broken, that is a fact.

3. On a contact card that did not have an address yet, while flicking across 
the card from top to bottom, I did indeed find an address field that was blank. 
This is what one would expect. I double tapped the address field, and bang, I 
was thrown out of the contacts app, back to my home screen. If that is what you 
meant when you said the phone app crashed, then yes, it happens here as well. 
Only difference on my side is, that I was editing my contact card off of the 
contacts list inside the contacts app, and I was not doing it using the 
contacts tab inside the phone app.

Did you report the issues to Apple accessibility yet?

Best,
Paul.
On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Massimo Vettoretti  wrote:

> Hello  folks..
> 
> 
> Here I am  to report some accessibility issues under IOS 7 and contact 
> manager.
> 
> 1. It is impossible to use the VO rotor to edit some contact information, 
> such as name,  family name, salutation etc... Notes, phone number, e-mail 
> address, web site fields are not affected.  using a bluetooth keyboard with 
> quicknav off doesn't solve the problem.
> 
> 2. In the edit  field affected by the bug reported above, when performing a 
> single finger double tap to move VO cursor to the beginning or to the end of 
> the field's content,  causes Voice Over to announce  "Insertion pointed 
> start" even if the cursor is at the end of the text. The cursor position 
> changes, but this is not reported by Voice Over.
> 
> 3. It's impossible to add an address field to an existing contact. Trying to 
> do that causes the Phone application to crash. The only way to do that is 
> tapping the button with Voice Over turned off.
> 
> Can you confirm?
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Re: ITunes and sequencial track number tagging

[Paul Erkens]

Hi,

What I use is fusion, and a little windows utility called mp3tag. It allows you 
to select a bunch of tracks, who's filenames have been nicely numbered. It 
looks at each file in turn, numbering it in sequence. Of course, your filename 
numbering must be correct, in order for mp3tag to match your track numbers 
accordingly. But that is very effective. You select your files, and then you 
tab across the mp3tag windows dialog, filling in general information that you 
want applied to each track. For example,you can fill in the artist and album 
name from within the mp3tag program window, and apply that to all selected 
files. You then select renumber as a second operation, and mp3tag fills in the 
track number field inside each mp3 file's meta data.
If you then import those mp3 files into itunes, your metadata, i.e. the mp3 
tags, will be just fine, so that itunes knows how to handle each mp3 file and 
move it into your itunes library.

Hth,
Paul. 
On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

> Ah, I had thought perhaps that if I checked the Keep Library organized or 
> something like that, you know the one?  Maybe then if I used a wild card like 
> 1* or 1+ that might work, but, no go.  You can't enter special stuff like * 
> or + in to the track number edit box because they are not allowed.  So much 
> for the wild card character idea.  Okay.  Looks like I'll have to go to a 
> third party renaming app.  I'd prefer one that I can set up to start putting 
> track numbers in to the proper locations in the meta data taging info and 
> then just let it go.  Only one I found so far is File Renamer.  Costs $19.95 
> though.  
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That would be an interesting and advantageous function.  I don't believe 
>> that iTunes has that ability at all. No auto tagging features that I'm aware 
>> of.  But, if you learn of something, I'd like to learn about it as well.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-09-24, at 5:31 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay.
>>> 
>>> Now that I've finally made peace with the ITunes library system and 
>>> actually come to love it, I am faced with a slight delima.  Is there any 
>>> way I can cause ITunes to write tags for track numbers sequencially?  Say, 
>>> for example, I've got an album consisting of 63 tracks (I'm not kidding).  
>>> Now, instead of having to go in to the info for each track individually and 
>>> do track number 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 ETC all the way to 63, is there a way 
>>> of making ITunes assign track numbers through the entire album?  I know I 
>>> can select all the tracks in an album and write info for multiple items:  
>>> however, how do I deal with numbering each track?  Do I write it like this 
>>> 1: 63 and specify in the track count that there are 63 tracks in the album? 
>>>  I really do not want to sit up all blessed night doing each number by 
>>> hand.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
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Audiobooks

[Krysti]

I bought an audiobook on iTunes on my Mac last night today I went to sync it to 
my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 

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mac numbers and basic operations

[Paul Erkens]

Hi all,

If I would buy numbers, does any of you know if basic operations are possible 
in it with voiceover? I know that numbers does have accessibility issues, 
therefore I'm asking.

What I want is create a spreadsheet with a few columns, each column having a 
text header, and then being able to sum up each column vertically, and also sum 
up the column sums horizontally. In other words: each column contains numbers 
that need to be added up. Is that doable with voiceover, creating a formula at 
the bottom of a column? And secondly, if you have those results, they will show 
up from left to right. In a column called total, on the right, I'd like to add 
up all column sums to a toal, using a formula in numbers. This is very basic 
stuff. Can VoiceOver handle numbers thus far?

Paul.

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Some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists who 
would be interested.

In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that some 
Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it than what 
you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.

8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the CNIB:
http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-

Best,
Donna

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Re: ITunes and sequencial track number tagging

[Ray Foret jr]

Uh, thanks, however, I REFUSE, TO, INSTALL, WINDOWS, ON, THIS, MAC!!!  It just 
ain't gonna happen EVER, EVER, EVER!!!


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> What I use is fusion, and a little windows utility called mp3tag. It allows 
> you to select a bunch of tracks, who's filenames have been nicely numbered. 
> It looks at each file in turn, numbering it in sequence. Of course, your 
> filename numbering must be correct, in order for mp3tag to match your track 
> numbers accordingly. But that is very effective. You select your files, and 
> then you tab across the mp3tag windows dialog, filling in general information 
> that you want applied to each track. For example,you can fill in the artist 
> and album name from within the mp3tag program window, and apply that to all 
> selected files. You then select renumber as a second operation, and mp3tag 
> fills in the track number field inside each mp3 file's meta data.
> If you then import those mp3 files into itunes, your metadata, i.e. the mp3 
> tags, will be just fine, so that itunes knows how to handle each mp3 file and 
> move it into your itunes library.
> 
> Hth,
> Paul. 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
>> Ah, I had thought perhaps that if I checked the Keep Library organized or 
>> something like that, you know the one?  Maybe then if I used a wild card 
>> like 1* or 1+ that might work, but, no go.  You can't enter special stuff 
>> like * or + in to the track number edit box because they are not allowed.  
>> So much for the wild card character idea.  Okay.  Looks like I'll have to go 
>> to a third party renaming app.  I'd prefer one that I can set up to start 
>> putting track numbers in to the proper locations in the meta data taging 
>> info and then just let it go.  Only one I found so far is File Renamer.  
>> Costs $19.95 though.  
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That would be an interesting and advantageous function.  I don't believe 
>>> that iTunes has that ability at all. No auto tagging features that I'm 
>>> aware of.  But, if you learn of something, I'd like to learn about it as 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-09-24, at 5:31 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
 Okay.
 
 Now that I've finally made peace with the ITunes library system and 
 actually come to love it, I am faced with a slight delima.  Is there any 
 way I can cause ITunes to write tags for track numbers sequencially?  Say, 
 for example, I've got an album consisting of 63 tracks (I'm not kidding).  
 Now, instead of having to go in to the info for each track individually 
 and do track number 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 ETC all the way to 63, is there a 
 way of making ITunes assign track numbers through the entire album?  I 
 know I can select all the tracks in an album and write info for multiple 
 items:  however, how do I deal with numbering each track?  Do I write it 
 like this 1: 63 and specify in the track count that there are 63 tracks in 
 the album?  I really do not want to sit up all blessed night doing each 
 number by hand.  Thanks.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
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Re: mac numbers and basic operations

[Eugenia Firth]

I will say, however, that I am waiting to see how numbers behaves when we have 
Mavericks. I've been told, and admittedly this was by a sided guy, that numbers 
will run under Mavericks. If you're not in a big hurry, you can wait for 
Mavericks and some of us like myself, will let you know how it works out with 
numbers under Mavericks. The only problem I have with numbers is with very 
large files, and I just have to take a little more time. I am hoping this will 
be better under Mavericks, and will see. Hi there
The simple answer to your question is yes. I use numbers all the time for what 
you were talking about. It is true that Numbers for the Internet that is being 
done for Mavericks was not accessible with voiceover, the last time I tried it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> If I would buy numbers, does any of you know if basic operations are possible 
> in it with voiceover? I know that numbers does have accessibility issues, 
> therefore I'm asking.
> 
> What I want is create a spreadsheet with a few columns, each column having a 
> text header, and then being able to sum up each column vertically, and also 
> sum up the column sums horizontally. In other words: each column contains 
> numbers that need to be added up. Is that doable with voiceover, creating a 
> formula at the bottom of a column? And secondly, if you have those results, 
> they will show up from left to right. In a column called total, on the right, 
> I'd like to add up all column sums to a toal, using a formula in numbers. 
> This is very basic stuff. Can VoiceOver handle numbers thus far?
> 
> Paul.
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> to turn in for the invoices. I do that also with numbers.
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Using super duper

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey all.
I was just wondering how to use super duper? I want to use something other than 
time machine for backing up.
Thank you.

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Re: Using super duper

[Robert Hill]

Hi Matt,

Super Duper is easy to use.
You run the program, set up your source and destination drives using pop-ups.
You can choose whether to do a "smart" backup wihch bcks up only newer files.
It's set it and forget it and use it.

Bob Hill

On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hey all.
> I was just wondering how to use super duper? I want to use something other 
> than time machine for backing up.
> Thank you.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
> 
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more calculator problems

[Alex Hall]

Hi all
A while back I emailed the list with calculator questions. I thought I'd sorted 
everything out, until today. I have to calculate milages, and all I have are 
the start and end numbers, so I have to subtract. Each number is six digits, so 
I was copying and pasting them into the calculator. That worked the first time, 
but then the odd things began. I could type numbers, but both paste and clear 
were dimmed. Closing and re-opening the program only helped for a minute, then 
the problems started up again. Does anyone know what might be going on? Thanks.


Have a great day,
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Re: vo after awaking from sleep

[Phil Halton]

This happens quite a lot to me. According to Ricardo Walker, who first told me 
about this fix, pressing command F5 four times quickly works consistently to 
bring VO back up and talking. I use that command keystroke combo all the time 
and it works fine.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> when I awake my iMack from sleep and enter my password VO does not always 
> come up talking. I must unload and load it several times with  CMD + F5.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Eugenia Firth]

Hey there
If Bex is on there, is there a braille translator on there? That would be real 
interesting. The translator should be as good as it ever was if there is one on 
there.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:29 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Well, it took me longer than 45 seconds, try 10 minutes, but it was time well 
> spent.  I got to play typing game and space invaders and great escape…  Ah, 
> the memories.  Theres even a copy of bex, what you'll use that for I'll never 
> know since I doubt this emulater has driver support for any sort of embosser 
> connectivity.  Still, I wonder how easy it would be to add speech to the old 
> eamon series.
> 
> Good times,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
>> On 2013-09-25, at 6:52 PM, Michael Babcock  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I got it up and running within about 45 seconds after downloading 
>> it. It's really not that difficult, and I'm in the process of recording a 
>> video to post on empowering the blind, using voice over walking through the 
>> process of it. Again, it's really not that difficult and, very fun.
>> Michael Babcock
>> Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
>> Lets get social on Facebook:
>> http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
>> ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
>> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and free!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are, from what I read from it, it sounds like a pain in the kneck to 
>>> get it up and running, but I'm used to just being able to open a file and 
>>> having it load, so go figure, so I haven't tried it yet.
 On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
 
 I am downloading it right now, but what it looks like is it is a 
 virtualized emulator of the old Apple to eat computer environment with 
 some of the talking games that some of us used to play. I am hopeful that 
 it actually successfully works at least on OS X, my primary operating 
 system, as it would be very exciting to play some of the old Apple games 
 that I used to play. Apparently, according to the website, there is 
 several games included in this download. Here is a direct link to the 
 README file, that will tell you everything about what is included in this 
 file, hopefully this clarifies some of the information for people who are 
 a little hesitant to downloading files such as us.
 http://www.bluegrasspals.com/messapple/readme.html
 My friend used to play on Windows, super Nintendo games and on emulated 
 environment somewhat similar to this, except for it was a super Nintendo 
 emulator the environment, and not an Apple emulated environment obviously. 
 This technology has always excited me.
 Also, those of you who haven't visited the above-mentioned website, there 
 is information for a mailing list that you can join, in order to have 
 questions answered and generally discuss this project.
 Looking forward to some hours, and hours of gameplay. Here's to hoping the 
 old Oregon Trail game is included oh yes, and Darcy, from screen the 
 switchers, was quoted in the README file of doing some work on making the 
 Macintosh version of the software work
 Michael Babcock
 Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
 Lets get social on Facebook:
 http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
 ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
 personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and 
 free!
 
 
 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
> They're the older apple games we all, or at least some of us used to play 
> back in the day when the Apple computers first came out, so thought I'd 
> share that.
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>> 
>> Uh, just what is this supposed to do?  I don't download stuff I don't 
>> know what it is.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   This sounds cool as ever, haven't had a chance to download/try it, 
>>> but stumbled across it when it popped up as one of the ads in rsgames, 
>>> and am about to try it out.
>>>   I was adicted to most of those games when I was a kid, and missed 
>>> them after I upgraded to a 

Re: Using super duper

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey Bob.
So which popup is which? Thank you.
Matt Dierckens
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On 2013-09-26, at 9:48 AM, Robert Hill  wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> 
> Super Duper is easy to use.
> You run the program, set up your source and destination drives using pop-ups.
> You can choose whether to do a "smart" backup wihch bcks up only newer files.
> It's set it and forget it and use it.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all.
>> I was just wondering how to use super duper? I want to use something other 
>> than time machine for backing up.
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Matt Dierckens
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> 
>> IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
>> Sight Substitution Centre
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:

• down to 73% this morning.
• Background updating is On.
• a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in the 
background according to the App Switcher.
• iCloud Syncing is On.
• Mail notifications is on Manual.
• Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
• FaceBook notifications are On.
• Reduced Motion is On.
• WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.

Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute call 
from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder block 
walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.  Lots of 
Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in the 
CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.

So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, and 
battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, I'm not 
sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're having these 
problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due to a bug in the 
iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that may help including 
letting your battery totally drain then charging it up fully to reset any 
confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak battery issue, or specific 
app or background app problem.  We all use our iPhones for such varied tasks 
that its difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" for everyone.

Have a good one.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they don't 
> just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started giving me 
> less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it might be 
> beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
> Regards,
> Gigi Hi there
> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up getting 
> my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I suspected 
> I might have a problem.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. 
>> GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once 
>> getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match 
>> music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's 
>> battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch 
>> the directions for the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm 
>> connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so from one charge. That 
>> is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed and charge it up again. If 
>> I'm off wifi for the day but don't do anything crazy (like heavy use of GPS 
>> or 3G) my battery will probably die in the evening once I'm home again, but 
>> before going to bed.
>> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
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Prismo

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
I don't know if this has anything to do with iOS 7 or not, but I have noticed 
that Prismo is a lot better than the last time I tried to use it. Maybe some of 
you guys already knew about this, but I discovered that I was doing something 
wrong when it came to page detection. Now I wait for the vibrator my hand and I 
am so glad they put those music tones in there.'I did discover that I had to 
tell it to scan again to get it to work properly. Have any of you guys 
discovered that you have to use it on the table instead of trying to get sloppy 
and put it on your lap? I was able to find out how much my check was and a 
letter from my health insurance company instead of the other check I wanted.
Regards,
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Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or
last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last
name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends
for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple
Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to
edit contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit
product feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering
team to see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this
feedback and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as
well.

1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback
  page.

2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.

3.   I wrote my comments.

4.   I submitted the feedback.

 

When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I
know that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you
catch this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be
sure that apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any
of you elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the
first things you check since it's of interest to everyone. Finally, if any
of you were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during
BETA, tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Paul

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Re: Prismo

[Alex Hall]

The vibration feature is new in their most recent update. I'll have to try it 
again; I never got good results in the past, so let's see how it works now. Are 
you using this on a 5S? If so, your better results may be due to the camera's 
improvement as well.
On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I don't know if this has anything to do with iOS 7 or not, but I have noticed 
> that Prismo is a lot better than the last time I tried to use it. Maybe some 
> of you guys already knew about this, but I discovered that I was doing 
> something wrong when it came to page detection. Now I wait for the vibrator 
> my hand and I am so glad they put those music tones in there.'I did discover 
> that I had to tell it to scan again to get it to work properly. Have any of 
> you guys discovered that you have to use it on the table instead of trying to 
> get sloppy and put it on your lap? I was able to find out how much my check 
> was and a letter from my health insurance company instead of the other check 
> I wanted.
> Regards,
> Gigi
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RE: Prismo

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Gigi. I have never been good at scanning anything with my IPhone. I've
tried everything and haven't had any success. I guess I don't have the
scanning gift. The only app I've been able to use successfully is the
Looktel Money reader.
I'll try Prismo with IOS 7 and see what happens. I'm glad it works for you.


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Subject: Prismo

Hi guys
I don't know if this has anything to do with iOS 7 or not, but I have
noticed that Prismo is a lot better than the last time I tried to use it.
Maybe some of you guys already knew about this, but I discovered that I was
doing something wrong when it came to page detection. Now I wait for the
vibrator my hand and I am so glad they put those music tones in there.'I did
discover that I had to tell it to scan again to get it to work properly.
Have any of you guys discovered that you have to use it on the table instead
of trying to get sloppy and put it on your lap? I was able to find out how
much my check was and a letter from my health insurance company instead of
the other check I wanted.
Regards,
Gigi

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Re: Using super duper

[Daniel C]

Hi,
The first one should be the source drive, and the second, the destination.

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Re: Prismo

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

You probably need something to help you keep the iPhone flat and steady. Have 
you thought of using either a StandScan Pro or a ScanBox? Both devices provide 
ideal lighting and positioning for getting a good clear picture. Both devices 
are considerably cheaper than a cheap flatbed scanner.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Sep 2013, at 19:01, Paul Hunt  wrote:

> Hello Gigi. I have never been good at scanning anything with my IPhone. I've
> tried everything and haven't had any success. I guess I don't have the
> scanning gift. The only app I've been able to use successfully is the
> Looktel Money reader.
> I'll try Prismo with IOS 7 and see what happens. I'm glad it works for you.
> 

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Re: Prismo

[Eugenia Firth]

No, I still have a 4 s. Notice I said still have. I am planning to get a 5 s 
with as much memory as possible as soon as I get around to it. 

Like you, I had poor results until I discovered that when it vibrated in my 
hand I needed to tell it again to scan the page. It didn't work on all my 
pages, and I put that down to the kind of stuff I got in the mail, since it 
read the check and the letter well enough for me to know what was in it. When I 
get the 5 S, then maybe it will do better. That's one of the reasons I want to 
get a 5 s. 

Regards, 
Gigi 
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> The vibration feature is new in their most recent update. I'll have to try it 
> again; I never got good results in the past, so let's see how it works now. 
> Are you using this on a 5S? If so, your better results may be due to the 
> camera's improvement as well.
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> I don't know if this has anything to do with iOS 7 or not, but I have 
>> noticed that Prismo is a lot better than the last time I tried to use it. 
>> Maybe some of you guys already knew about this, but I discovered that I was 
>> doing something wrong when it came to page detection. Now I wait for the 
>> vibrator my hand and I am so glad they put those music tones in there.'I did 
>> discover that I had to tell it to scan again to get it to work properly. 
>> Have any of you guys discovered that you have to use it on the table instead 
>> of trying to get sloppy and put it on your lap? I was able to find out how 
>> much my check was and a letter from my health insurance company instead of 
>> the other check I wanted.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[erik burggraaf]

Well, the translater wouldn't be at issue.  That was a function of bex, not the 
computer.  So, presumably that still works.

The issue would be embossing because you would need support for serial 
embossers in the emulator.  I'm just trying to imagine connecting up an 
embosser in such a way that the emulator could see it and failing.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2013-09-26, at 10:40 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hey there
> If Bex is on there, is there a braille translator on there? That would be 
> real interesting. The translator should be as good as it ever was if there is 
> one on there.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:29 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
>> Well, it took me longer than 45 seconds, try 10 minutes, but it was time 
>> well spent.  I got to play typing game and space invaders and great escape…  
>> Ah, the memories.  Theres even a copy of bex, what you'll use that for I'll 
>> never know since I doubt this emulater has driver support for any sort of 
>> embosser connectivity.  Still, I wonder how easy it would be to add speech 
>> to the old eamon series.
>> 
>> Good times,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2013-09-25, at 6:52 PM, Michael Babcock  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, I got it up and running within about 45 seconds after downloading 
>>> it. It's really not that difficult, and I'm in the process of recording a 
>>> video to post on empowering the blind, using voice over walking through the 
>>> process of it. Again, it's really not that difficult and, very fun.
>>> Michael Babcock
>>> Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
>>> Lets get social on Facebook:
>>> http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
>>> ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
>>> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and free!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
 There are, from what I read from it, it sounds like a pain in the kneck to 
 get it up and running, but I'm used to just being able to open a file and 
 having it load, so go figure, so I haven't tried it yet.
 On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
 
> I am downloading it right now, but what it looks like is it is a 
> virtualized emulator of the old Apple to eat computer environment with 
> some of the talking games that some of us used to play. I am hopeful that 
> it actually successfully works at least on OS X, my primary operating 
> system, as it would be very exciting to play some of the old Apple games 
> that I used to play. Apparently, according to the website, there is 
> several games included in this download. Here is a direct link to the 
> README file, that will tell you everything about what is included in this 
> file, hopefully this clarifies some of the information for people who are 
> a little hesitant to downloading files such as us.
> http://www.bluegrasspals.com/messapple/readme.html
> My friend used to play on Windows, super Nintendo games and on emulated 
> environment somewhat similar to this, except for it was a super Nintendo 
> emulator the environment, and not an Apple emulated environment 
> obviously. This technology has always excited me.
> Also, those of you who haven't visited the above-mentioned website, there 
> is information for a mailing list that you can join, in order to have 
> questions answered and generally discuss this project.
> Looking forward to some hours, and hours of gameplay. Here's to hoping 
> the old Oregon Trail game is included oh yes, and Darcy, from screen the 
> switchers, was quoted in the README file of doing some work on making the 
> Macintosh version of the software work
> Michael Babcock
> Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
> Lets get social on Facebook:
> http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
> ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and 
> free!
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
>> They're the older apple games we all, or at least some of us used to 
>> play back in the day when the Apple computers first came out, so thought 
>> I'd share that.
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
Actually, since I don't have an embosser, what occurred to me is whether one 
could select all the text once translation had gotten done and put the braille 
text into a brf file by using TextEdit. I don't know if it would work or not, 
but the thought did occur to me. It's probably too much trouble anyway since 
BEX used to write those files without carriage returns until you put them in. 
so you would probably have to do a lot of formatting by hand even if you got it 
to work.

Regards,
Gigi


On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:30 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> Well, the translater wouldn't be at issue.  That was a function of bex, not 
> the computer.  So, presumably that still works.
> 
> The issue would be embossing because you would need support for serial 
> embossers in the emulator.  I'm just trying to imagine connecting up an 
> embosser in such a way that the emulator could see it and failing.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-09-26, at 10:40 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hey there
>> If Bex is on there, is there a braille translator on there? That would be 
>> real interesting. The translator should be as good as it ever was if there 
>> is one on there.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:29 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it took me longer than 45 seconds, try 10 minutes, but it was time 
>>> well spent.  I got to play typing game and space invaders and great escape… 
>>>  Ah, the memories.  Theres even a copy of bex, what you'll use that for 
>>> I'll never know since I doubt this emulater has driver support for any sort 
>>> of embosser connectivity.  Still, I wonder how easy it would be to add 
>>> speech to the old eamon series.
>>> 
>>> Good times,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2013-09-25, at 6:52 PM, Michael Babcock  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, I got it up and running within about 45 seconds after 
 downloading it. It's really not that difficult, and I'm in the process of 
 recording a video to post on empowering the blind, using voice over 
 walking through the process of it. Again, it's really not that difficult 
 and, very fun.
 Michael Babcock
 Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
 Lets get social on Facebook:
 http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
 ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
 personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and 
 free!
 
 
 
 On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
> There are, from what I read from it, it sounds like a pain in the kneck 
> to get it up and running, but I'm used to just being able to open a file 
> and having it load, so go figure, so I haven't tried it yet.
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
> 
>> I am downloading it right now, but what it looks like is it is a 
>> virtualized emulator of the old Apple to eat computer environment with 
>> some of the talking games that some of us used to play. I am hopeful 
>> that it actually successfully works at least on OS X, my primary 
>> operating system, as it would be very exciting to play some of the old 
>> Apple games that I used to play. Apparently, according to the website, 
>> there is several games included in this download. Here is a direct link 
>> to the README file, that will tell you everything about what is included 
>> in this file, hopefully this clarifies some of the information for 
>> people who are a little hesitant to downloading files such as us.
>> http://www.bluegrasspals.com/messapple/readme.html
>> My friend used to play on Windows, super Nintendo games and on emulated 
>> environment somewhat similar to this, except for it was a super Nintendo 
>> emulator the environment, and not an Apple emulated environment 
>> obviously. This technology has always excited me.
>> Also, those of you who haven't visited the above-mentioned website, 
>> there is information for a mailing list that you can join, in order to 
>> have questions answered and generally discuss this project.
>> Looking forward to some hours, and hours of gameplay. Here's to hoping 
>> the old Oregon Trail game is included oh yes, and Darcy, from screen the 
>> switchers, was quoted in the README file of doing some work on making 
>> the Macintosh version of the 

Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Tim,

Thanks for this detailed posting. I guess I am going to let my battery fully 
die, and then charge it and go from there. Thanks again for the post.
On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
> 
> • down to 73% this morning.
> • Background updating is On.
> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in the 
> background according to the App Switcher.
> • iCloud Syncing is On.
> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
> • FaceBook notifications are On.
> • Reduced Motion is On.
> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
> 
> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute call 
> from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder block 
> walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.  Lots of 
> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in 
> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.
> 
> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, and 
> battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, I'm not 
> sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're having 
> these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due to a bug 
> in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that may help 
> including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up fully to 
> reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak battery issue, or 
> specific app or background app problem.  We all use our iPhones for such 
> varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" for everyone.
> 
> Have a good one.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they don't 
>> just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started giving 
>> me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it might 
>> be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Hi there
>> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
>> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I 
>> suspected I might have a problem.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. 
>>> GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once 
>>> getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match 
>>> music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's 
>>> battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch 
>>> the directions for the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm 
>>> connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so from one charge. That 
>>> is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed and charge it up again. 
>>> If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do anything crazy (like heavy use of 
>>> GPS or 3G) my battery will probably die in the evening once I'm home again, 
>>> but before going to bed.
>>> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
>>> 
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
> 
> • down to 73% this morning.
> • Background updating is On.
> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in the 
> background according to the App Switcher.
> • iCloud Syncing is On.
> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
> • FaceBook notifications are On.
> • Reduced Motion is On.
> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
> 
> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute call 
> from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder block 
> walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.  Lots of 
> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in 
> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.
> 
> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, and 
> battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, I'm not 
> sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're having 
> these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due to a bug 
> in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that may help 
> including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up fully to 
> reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak battery issue, or 
> specific app or background app problem.  We all use our iPhones for such 
> varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" for everyone.
> 
> Have a good one.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they don't 
>> just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started giving 
>> me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it might 
>> be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Hi there
>> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
>> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I 
>> suspected I might have a problem.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. 
>>> GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once 
>>> getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match 
>>> music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's 
>>> battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch 
>>> the directions for the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm 
>>> connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so from one charge. That 
>>> is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed and charge it up again. 
>>> If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do anything crazy (like heavy use of 
>>> GPS or 3G) my battery will probably die in the evening once I'm home again, 
>>> but before going to bed.
>>> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
>>> 
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It says 3 hours 2 minutes now although it's been a few hours with some more 
usage since I posted my original stats.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-09-26, at 1:16 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?
> 
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> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
>> 
>> • down to 73% this morning.
>> • Background updating is On.
>> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in the 
>> background according to the App Switcher.
>> • iCloud Syncing is On.
>> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
>> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
>> • FaceBook notifications are On.
>> • Reduced Motion is On.
>> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
>> 
>> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute call 
>> from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder block 
>> walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.  Lots of 
>> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in 
>> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.
>> 
>> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, 
>> and battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, I'm 
>> not sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're having 
>> these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due to a bug 
>> in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that may help 
>> including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up fully to 
>> reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak battery issue, 
>> or specific app or background app problem.  We all use our iPhones for such 
>> varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" for 
>> everyone.
>> 
>> Have a good one.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they don't 
>>> just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started giving 
>>> me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it 
>>> might be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Hi there
>>> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
>>> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I 
>>> suspected I might have a problem.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. 
 GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once 
 getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match 
 music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's 
 battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch 
 the directions for the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm 
 connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so from one charge. 
 That is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed and charge it up 
 again. If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do anything crazy (like heavy 
 use of GPS or 3G) my battery will probably die in the evening once I'm 
 home again, but before going to bed.
 I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
 
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Re: Audiobooks

[Danny Noonan]

You don't sync audible books from computer to iOS. You download to the phone 
seperetly   

In the audible app make sure clowd is selected and then go to settings. Tap 
refresh entire library and then the book should show up in the list. Double tap 
on the book and you will find a download all option. 

Hope this helps. If you still have trouble I'll write a better description when 
I'm not so rushed. 



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Sep 2013, at 10:12 pm, Krysti  wrote:
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> I bought an audiobook on iTunes on my Mac last night today I went to sync it 
> to my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 
> 
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contacts

[jean parker]

Hello:
For what it is worth, here is my experience with the contacts app in iOS 7.  I 
am using an i phone 5.
I was able to enter a new contact with no problem.  The only difficulty was 
that vo took a few seconds to come back after I finished adding the contact. 
Don't know if that helps identify the problem.
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

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Hmmm, it strikes me as ironic that this seems to only work in Windows at the 
moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?

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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[erik burggraaf]

No, It's windows and mac.

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> moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

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It definitely works on the Mac. Be aware that you have to run it from the 
terminal though. There are complete instruction on the web site.
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> 
> Bets,
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>> moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
>> 
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

What is this motion thing?  I haven't got my I phone yet.
On 26 Sep 2013, at 20:36, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It says 3 hours 2 minutes now although it's been a few hours with some more 
> usage since I posted my original stats.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-09-26, at 1:16 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
>>> 
>>> • down to 73% this morning.
>>> • Background updating is On.
>>> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in 
>>> the background according to the App Switcher.
>>> • iCloud Syncing is On.
>>> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
>>> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
>>> • FaceBook notifications are On.
>>> • Reduced Motion is On.
>>> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
>>> 
>>> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute call 
>>> from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder 
>>> block walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.  
>>> Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked 
>>> news in the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't 
>>> recall.
>>> 
>>> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, 
>>> and battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, I'm 
>>> not sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're 
>>> having these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due 
>>> to a bug in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that may 
>>> help including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up fully 
>>> to reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak battery 
>>> issue, or specific app or background app problem.  We all use our iPhones 
>>> for such varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" 
>>> for everyone.
>>> 
>>> Have a good one.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they 
 don't just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started 
 giving me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, 
 it might be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
 Regards,
 Gigi Hi there
 I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
 getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I 
 suspected I might have a problem.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. 
> GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once 
> getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes 
> Match music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the 
> iPHone's battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we 
> had to ditch the directions for the rest of the trip and the way home. :) 
> If I'm connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so from one 
> charge. That is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed and charge 
> it up again. If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do anything crazy 
> (like heavy use of GPS or 3G) my battery will probably die in the evening 
> once I'm home again, but before going to bed.
> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
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Re: mac numbers and basic operations

[Barry Hadder]

Hey Paul,

You can do all of that using vo with Numbers with no problems.  Numbers is a 
little buggy, but there are very few accessibility issues.  It's actually the 
best of the three in that regard.
Good luck.

On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:

Hi all,

If I would buy numbers, does any of you know if basic operations are possible 
in it with voiceover? I know that numbers does have accessibility issues, 
therefore I'm asking.

What I want is create a spreadsheet with a few columns, each column having a 
text header, and then being able to sum up each column vertically, and also sum 
up the column sums horizontally. In other words: each column contains numbers 
that need to be added up. Is that doable with voiceover, creating a formula at 
the bottom of a column? And secondly, if you have those results, they will show 
up from left to right. In a column called total, on the right, I'd like to add 
up all column sums to a toal, using a formula in numbers. This is very basic 
stuff. Can VoiceOver handle numbers thus far?

Paul.

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Re: Audiobooks

[Danny Noonan]

Sorry, 5 am brain fart. How I herd audible I don't know. Blush. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

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> to my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 
> 
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Re: vo after awaking from sleep

[Agent086b]

Thanks for this. Will this restore the trackpad also? I do find the Tracckpad 
some times won't awake.
Thanks again.
Max.

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> This happens quite a lot to me. According to Ricardo Walker, who first told 
> me about this fix, pressing command F5 four times quickly works consistently 
> to bring VO back up and talking. I use that command keystroke combo all the 
> time and it works fine.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> when I awake my iMack from sleep and enter my password VO does not always 
>> come up talking. I must unload and load it several times with  CMD + F5.
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Max.
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Re: Some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare

[Kerri]

Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a big help.
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> 
> Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists who 
> would be interested.
> 
> In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that some 
> Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it than what 
> you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
> 
> 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the CNIB:
> http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
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Re: Some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare

[Donna Goodin]

Glad to hear it.  And both the Read2Go and Voice Dream Reader apps work really 
well with Bookshare books.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a big 
> help.
> On 2013-09-26, at 5:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists who 
>> would be interested.
>> 
>> In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that some 
>> Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it than 
>> what you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
>> 
>> 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the CNIB:
>> http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
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Re: Fastest Way to Scan Books?

[James Lee]

Thanks Anne for explaining the process.
I'll let you know if I go into Vuescan+Abby route.

JL

On 9/25/2013 5:25 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello James,

I use a flatbed scanner and scan a double page at a time. I use VueScan to 
capture the images and ABBYY FineReader Express to do the OCR. This is faster 
than just using FineReader and the images are better so the OCR is more 
accurate.

This does however mean buying two applications to get the job done. If you 
don't buy a license for VueScan, it leaves a watermark on each scan which can 
really mess up the OCR. The License for VueScan costs $39 for one year or $79 
for life.

If you choose to use VueScan plus ABBYY FineReader Express, let me know and 
I'll send you my little set up guide for VueScan.

Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:44, James Lee  wrote:


Hi Anne,

Thanks for the suggestion.
This is true, scanners with automatic document feeder are much faster than flat 
bed. I haven't used one of those, so I haven't thought of it.
What if you can't take books apart. What would be the best solution?
Thanks for help,

JL

On 9/24/2013 1:55 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello James,

If you can take the books apart, you'd be fastest with the kind of scanner that 
will scan both sides of a sheet and also has an automatic feed. The application 
VueScan can probably handle one of these and it produces very good images.

However, VueScan is not good for OCR. It will do it, but not very well. You 
can, however, feed the file of images to ABBYY FineReader Express for Mac which 
does an excellent job on OCR.

Here is a link to the page showing which scanners are supported by VueScan:


Cheers,

Anne


On 24 Sep 2013, at 15:41, James Lee  wrote:


Hi All,

I'm wondering what would be the fastest way for a college student to scan books 
with accurate OCR?
I know there are cameras out there for scanning documents like hover cam and 
pearl, but I haven't actually used them.
I could be wrong, but pearl is only works with Open Book, right?
Can someone share their experience, and recommend what to buy?
Especially comparison would be very helpful.
Thanks so much,

JL

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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The Reduced Motion is a visual thing.  From a visual prospective, it's the 
fancy animations that the iOS displays when starting up apps and other iOS 
activities.  It is said that apps will start a little faster if the device is 
set to Reduced Motion.  Simply because it's doing these fancy graphics, it may 
slightly affect battery life and since I can't see them, they may as well be 
set to not happen.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-09-26, at 2:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> What is this motion thing?  I haven't got my I phone yet.
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 20:36, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It says 3 hours 2 minutes now although it's been a few hours with some more 
>> usage since I posted my original stats.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 1:16 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
 
 • down to 73% this morning.
 • Background updating is On.
 • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in 
 the background according to the App Switcher.
 • iCloud Syncing is On.
 • Mail notifications is on Manual.
 • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
 • FaceBook notifications are On.
 • Reduced Motion is On.
 • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
 
 Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute 
 call from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think 
 cinder block walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way 
 through.  Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in 
 Twitter, checked news in the CBC News app a few times and probably some 
 things I can't recall.
 
 So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, 
 and battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, 
 I'm not sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're 
 having these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due 
 to a bug in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that 
 may help including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up 
 fully to reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak 
 battery issue, or specific app or background app problem.  We all use our 
 iPhones for such varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, 
 "fix-all" for everyone.
 
 Have a good one.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they 
> don't just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started 
> giving me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a 
> while, it might be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was 
> for me.
> Regards,
> Gigi Hi there
> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and 
> I suspected I might have a problem.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the 
>> phone. GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I 
>> was once getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my 
>> iTunes Match music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained 
>> the iPHone's battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant 
>> we had to ditch the directions for the rest of the trip and the way 
>> home. :) If I'm connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so 
>> from one charge. That is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed 
>> and charge it up again. If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do 
>> anything crazy (like heavy use of GPS or 3G) my battery will probably 
>> die in the evening once I'm home again, but before going to bed.
>> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
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Re: Some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare

[Kerri]

I do have read 2 go but not voice dream reader … yet.
On 2013-09-26, at 2:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Glad to hear it.  And both the Read2Go and Voice Dream Reader apps work 
> really well with Bookshare books.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a big 
>> help.
>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists who 
>>> would be interested.
>>> 
>>> In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that 
>>> some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it 
>>> than what you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
>>> 
>>> 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the 
>>> CNIB:
>>> http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
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Re: Audiobooks

[Krysti]

Thank you I figured out It was in audiobooks in my iTunes since that's where I 
bought it thanks for the info 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, 5 am brain fart. How I herd audible I don't know. Blush. 
> 
> 
> Danny. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 26 Sep 2013, at 10:12 pm, Krysti  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought an audiobook on iTunes on my Mac last night today I went to sync it 
>> to my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 
>> 
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[sb356607]

Three hey Tim how do you turn off the reduced motion I

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 16:00, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Reduced Motion is a visual thing.  From a visual prospective, it's the 
> fancy animations that the iOS displays when starting up apps and other iOS 
> activities.  It is said that apps will start a little faster if the device is 
> set to Reduced Motion.  Simply because it's doing these fancy graphics, it 
> may slightly affect battery life and since I can't see them, they may as well 
> be set to not happen.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 2:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> What is this motion thing?  I haven't got my I phone yet.
>>> On 26 Sep 2013, at 20:36, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It says 3 hours 2 minutes now although it's been a few hours with some more 
>>> usage since I posted my original stats.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On 2013-09-26, at 1:16 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
> 
> • down to 73% this morning.
> • Background updating is On.
> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in 
> the background according to the App Switcher.
> • iCloud Syncing is On.
> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
> • FaceBook notifications are On.
> • Reduced Motion is On.
> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
> 
> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute 
> call from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think 
> cinder block walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way 
> through.  Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in 
> Twitter, checked news in the CBC News app a few times and probably some 
> things I can't recall.
> 
> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, 
> and battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, 
> I'm not sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're 
> having these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due 
> to a bug in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that 
> may help including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up 
> fully to reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak 
> battery issue, or specific app or background app problem.  We all use our 
> iPhones for such varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, 
> "fix-all" for everyone.
> 
> Have a good one.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they 
>> don't just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it 
>> started giving me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone 
>> for a while, it might be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least 
>> it was for me.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Hi there
>> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
>> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and 
>> I suspected I might have a problem.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the 
>>> phone. GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I 
>>> was once getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my 
>>> iTunes Match music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained 
>>> the iPHone's battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant 
>>> we had to ditch the directions for the rest of the trip and the way 
>>> home. :) If I'm connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so 
>>> from one charge. That is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed 
>>> and charge it up again. If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do 
>>> anything crazy (like heavy use of GPS or 3G) my battery will probably 
>>> die in the evening once I'm home again, but before going to bed.
>>> I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
>>> 
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

go to settings/general/accessibility/reduce motion.

hth

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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:22 PM, sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

> Three hey Tim how do you turn off the reduced motion I
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 16:00, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Reduced Motion is a visual thing.  From a visual prospective, it's the 
>> fancy animations that the iOS displays when starting up apps and other iOS 
>> activities.  It is said that apps will start a little faster if the device 
>> is set to Reduced Motion.  Simply because it's doing these fancy graphics, 
>> it may slightly affect battery life and since I can't see them, they may as 
>> well be set to not happen.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 2:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> What is this motion thing?  I haven't got my I phone yet.
>>> On 26 Sep 2013, at 20:36, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 It says 3 hours 2 minutes now although it's been a few hours with some 
 more usage since I posted my original stats.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-09-26, at 1:16 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
>> 
>> • down to 73% this morning.
>> • Background updating is On.
>> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in 
>> the background according to the App Switcher.
>> • iCloud Syncing is On.
>> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
>> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
>> • FaceBook notifications are On.
>> • Reduced Motion is On.
>> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
>> 
>> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute 
>> call from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think 
>> cinder block walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way 
>> through.  Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in 
>> Twitter, checked news in the CBC News app a few times and probably some 
>> things I can't recall.
>> 
>> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going 
>> on, and battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned 
>> before, I'm not sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing 
>> that you're having these problems, I'm just not convinced that these 
>> problems are due to a bug in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in 
>> this thread that may help including letting your battery totally drain 
>> then charging it up fully to reset any confusions with battery level, or 
>> possibly a weak battery issue, or specific app or background app 
>> problem.  We all use our iPhones for such varied tasks that its 
>> difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" for everyone.
>> 
>> Have a good one.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they 
>>> don't just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it 
>>> started giving me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone 
>>> for a while, it might be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least 
>>> it was for me.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Hi there
>>> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
>>> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, 
>>> and I suspected I might have a problem.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the 
 phone. GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I 
 was once getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my 
 iTunes Match music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and 
 drained the iPHone's battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, 
 which meant we had to ditch the directions for the rest of the trip 
 and the way home. :) If I'm connected to wifi, however, I seem to get 
 a day or so from one charge. That is, the battery isn't fully dead 
 when I go to bed and charge it up again. If I'm off wifi for the day 
 but don't do anything crazy (like heavy use of GPS or 3G) m

Re: mac numbers and basic operations

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Generally speaking, a Mac OS update has little or no effect on the 
accessibility of iWorks.  At least, I haven’t seen much of a difference going 
from snow leopard, to Lion, to Mountain Lion using the applications found in 
iWork 2009.  So I wouldn’t put to much hope in Mavericks fixing iWork 
accessibility issues.  I would cross my fingers for whenever Apple puts out a 
successor to iWork 09.

JMO.



Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> I will say, however, that I am waiting to see how numbers behaves when we 
> have Mavericks. I've been told, and admittedly this was by a sided guy, that 
> numbers will run under Mavericks. If you're not in a big hurry, you can wait 
> for Mavericks and some of us like myself, will let you know how it works out 
> with numbers under Mavericks. The only problem I have with numbers is with 
> very large files, and I just have to take a little more time. I am hoping 
> this will be better under Mavericks, and will see. Hi there
> The simple answer to your question is yes. I use numbers all the time for 
> what you were talking about. It is true that Numbers for the Internet that is 
> being done for Mavericks was not accessible with voiceover, the last time I 
> tried it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> If I would buy numbers, does any of you know if basic operations are 
>> possible in it with voiceover? I know that numbers does have accessibility 
>> issues, therefore I'm asking.
>> 
>> What I want is create a spreadsheet with a few columns, each column having a 
>> text header, and then being able to sum up each column vertically, and also 
>> sum up the column sums horizontally. In other words: each column contains 
>> numbers that need to be added up. Is that doable with voiceover, creating a 
>> formula at the bottom of a column? And secondly, if you have those results, 
>> they will show up from left to right. In a column called total, on the 
>> right, I'd like to add up all column sums to a toal, using a formula in 
>> numbers. This is very basic stuff. Can VoiceOver handle numbers thus far?
>> 
>> Paul.
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>> to turn in for the invoices. I do that also with numbers.
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Teresa Cochran]

Oh, ok. I was confused, because it said on the site: "works with Windows. 
Instructions for Mac coming soon". Or something to that effect. I'll give it a 
whirl, then.

Teresa
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

> It definitely works on the Mac. Be aware that you have to run it from the 
> terminal though. There are complete instruction on the web site.
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> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:30 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
>> No, It's windows and mac.
>> 
>> Bets,
>> 
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>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
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>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 4:25 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm, it strikes me as ironic that this seems to only work in Windows at 
>>> the moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
>>> 
>>> Teresa
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Re: Audiobooks

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

sure you do if you bought the audiobook from iTunes. 

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> You don't sync audible books from computer to iOS. You download to the phone 
> seperetly   
> 
> In the audible app make sure clowd is selected and then go to settings. Tap 
> refresh entire library and then the book should show up in the list. Double 
> tap on the book and you will find a download all option. 
> 
> Hope this helps. If you still have trouble I'll write a better description 
> when I'm not so rushed. 
> 
> 
> 
> Danny. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 26 Sep 2013, at 10:12 pm, Krysti  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought an audiobook on iTunes on my Mac last night today I went to sync it 
>> to my phone but it's not showing up under books or anywhere so I can sync it 
>> 
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Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Paul
I think I have figured out a workaround until Apple fixes it. It's not true 
that you can't edit the thing although it does appear that way. When I went 
into the name field voice over didn't tell me that I was moving between 
insertion point at start or insertion point at the end. I tried this twice, and 
here is what I think I have figured out.

Voice over is just not telling you what is what. It appears that if you double 
tap on the name field, that you end up automatically at insertion point at end. 
When I did it, voice over said insertion point at start every time, but that 
was not true all the time, I think. So for now, you can just assume that you're 
at the end and delete character by character. I could not get into the edit 
field where you could take out the whole thing if you wanted to without doing a 
character by character deletion. However, I was successful at editing the field 
although not normY like we're used to.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or 
> last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last 
> name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends 
> for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple 
> Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to edit 
> contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit product 
> feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering team to 
> see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this feedback 
> and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as well.
> 1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback page.
> 2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.
> 3.   I wrote my comments.
> 4.   I submitted the feedback.
>  
> When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I know 
> that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you catch 
> this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be sure that 
> apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any of you 
> elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the first 
> things you check since it’s of interest to everyone. Finally, if any of you 
> were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during BETA, 
> tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
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Update

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys 
Did you guys know there is already an update for IOS 7? It's 7.0.2. 

,reg>ds1 
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Reading Text Documents

[Helena Fehr]

Hi all!
I've got a text document I'm supposed to read for class at my Bible college, 
but VoiceOver won't read it, and just says return and bottom of document 
because the professor who put the text online for me do download made a photo 
copy of the book he wanted us to read, so now the text looks like a picture of 
the text, rather than the normal text itself, like when you scan it into the 
computer or type it out. The document is there on teh scren, and it looks clear 
enough, but VoiceOver won't read it. Does anyone have ideas what I can do so 
VoiceOver will read the text to me/ Is there an app I can get that'll read it? 
Thanks!
God Bless!!!
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Re: Reading Text Documents

[Ray Foret jr]

Sure.  Sounds to me like you've got a picture of a docment instead of the thing 
itself.  IF that's the case, you'll need something like Abby Fine Reader to run 
OcR on it.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Helena Fehr  wrote:

> Hi all!
> I've got a text document I'm supposed to read for class at my Bible college, 
> but VoiceOver won't read it, and just says return and bottom of document 
> because the professor who put the text online for me do download made a photo 
> copy of the book he wanted us to read, so now the text looks like a picture 
> of the text, rather than the normal text itself, like when you scan it into 
> the computer or type it out. The document is there on teh scren, and it looks 
> clear enough, but VoiceOver won't read it. Does anyone have ideas what I can 
> do so VoiceOver will read the text to me/ Is there an app I can get that'll 
> read it? Thanks!
> God Bless!!!
> Helena
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Reduced motion

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
Maybe I missed something here, but can somebody explain to me what the reduced 
motion is supposed to do? I changed it one time, and I couldn't figure out what 
it changed. 

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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Jessica Moss]

So was I, they should update their info.
On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Oh, ok. I was confused, because it said on the site: "works with Windows. 
> Instructions for Mac coming soon". Or something to that effect. I'll give it 
> a whirl, then.
> 
> Teresa
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> 
>> It definitely works on the Mac. Be aware that you have to run it from the 
>> terminal though. There are complete instruction on the web site.
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:30 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, It's windows and mac.
>>> 
>>> Bets,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
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>>> 
>>> On 2013-09-26, at 4:25 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hmmm, it strikes me as ironic that this seems to only work in Windows at 
 the moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
 
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An apple IIE Emulator video demo

[Michael Babcock]

I want to thank Jessica for posting this to an email list that I am currently 
involved on. To be honest, like her, I thought it might was going to be a 
little bit more difficult than what it actually was to get this up and running. 
My suggestion for you is to actually read the README file found when you 
download the file. Here’s a video that I recorded, showing you how I am able to 
actually load this file up and make it start running. Pretty exciting, and, I 
hope it will at least bring back some memories for you.
note: download linked can be found at the blog posting linked below:

http://empoweringtheblind.com/blog/an-apple-iie-emulator-video-demo/?id=empoweringtheblind
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Re: Update

[Jessica Moss]

Interesting, I haven't seen it, but haven't looked yet either.  What's 
different about it?
On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi guys 
> Did you guys know there is already an update for IOS 7? It's 7.0.2. 
> 
> ,reg>ds1 
> ,gigi 
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Re: Reduced motion

[Teresa Cochran]

For folks who have at least some sight, it's supposed to reduce the motion of 
elements on the screen to make them easier to read.

Hth,
Teresa
On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> Maybe I missed something here, but can somebody explain to me what the 
> reduced motion is supposed to do? I changed it one time, and I couldn't 
> figure out what it changed. 
> 
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Michael Babcock]

check out the link i linked to at empowering the blind; it links directly to 
the mac package; it's the second link down.
Michael Babcock
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> So was I, they should update their info.
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Oh, ok. I was confused, because it said on the site: "works with Windows. 
>> Instructions for Mac coming soon". Or something to that effect. I'll give it 
>> a whirl, then.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
>> 
>>> It definitely works on the Mac. Be aware that you have to run it from the 
>>> terminal though. There are complete instruction on the web site.
>>> --
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>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:30 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
 No, It's windows and mac.
 
 Bets,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-09-26, at 4:25 PM, Teresa Cochran  
 wrote:
 
> Hmmm, it strikes me as ironic that this seems to only work in Windows at 
> the moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
> 
> Teresa
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RE: Reading Text Documents

[David Tanner]

You will need to get the picture file run through an optical character
recognition software and turned into a text file before any screen reader
will be able to read this document. 

If you can not get help with this at the disabilities office at your college
then you really need to contact the state agency inyr state to get their
assistanc to help you get the instructor and your college to understand what
it takes to make a print document accessible to you. 



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helena Fehr
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading Text Documents

Hi all!
I've got a text document I'm supposed to read for class at my Bible college,
but VoiceOver won't read it, and just says return and bottom of document
because the professor who put the text online for me do download made a
photo copy of the book he wanted us to read, so now the text looks like a
picture of the text, rather than the normal text itself, like when you scan
it into the computer or type it out. The document is there on teh scren, and
it looks clear enough, but VoiceOver won't read it. Does anyone have ideas
what I can do so VoiceOver will read the text to me/ Is there an app I can
get that'll read it? Thanks!
God Bless!!!
Helena

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RE: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Kliphton]

This must be a iPhone4 and 4s issue.  Because I had my iPhone5 using IOS7
for 2 days, and now my 5s for almost a week, and I am able to edit contacts
on my 5s now, and on my 5 before I got my new device.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

 

Hi Paul
I think I have figured out a workaround until Apple fixes it. It's not true
that you can't edit the thing although it does appear that way. When I went
into the name field voice over didn't tell me that I was moving between
insertion point at start or insertion point at the end. I tried this twice,
and here is what I think I have figured out.

Voice over is just not telling you what is what. It appears that if you
double tap on the name field, that you end up automatically at insertion
point at end. When I did it, voice over said insertion point at start every
time, but that was not true all the time, I think. So for now, you can just
assume that you're at the end and delete character by character. I could not
get into the edit field where you could take out the whole thing if you
wanted to without doing a character by character deletion. However, I was
successful at editing the field although not normY like we're used to.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Paul Hunt mailto:prhu...@att.net> > wrote:

Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or
last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last
name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends
for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple
Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to
edit contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit
product feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering
team to see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this
feedback and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as
well.

1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback
  page.

2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.

3.   I wrote my comments.

4.   I submitted the feedback.

 

When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I
know that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you
catch this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be
sure that apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any
of you elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the
first things you check since it's of interest to everyone. Finally, if any
of you were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during
BETA, tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.

 

Thanks so much.

 

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Re: Some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare

[Matt Dierckens]

I personally like voice dream better than read2go.
Also, I wish we had access to Bookshare ion the US because they get more books 
than we do in Canada.
Still going to check it out though.
Matt Dierckens
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IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
Sight Substitution Centre

On 2013-09-26, at 6:07 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> I do have read 2 go but not voice dream reader … yet.
> On 2013-09-26, at 2:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Glad to hear it.  And both the Read2Go and Voice Dream Reader apps work 
>> really well with Bookshare books.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a big 
>>> help.
>>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists 
 who would be interested.
 
 In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that 
 some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it 
 than what you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
 
 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the 
 CNIB:
 http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
 
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Stacey Robinson]

Michael,
Could you send your blog link again?
I accidentally deleted the message.
Thanks,

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Gemini
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:

> check out the link i linked to at empowering the blind; it links directly to 
> the mac package; it's the second link down.
> Michael Babcock
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> Lets get social on Facebook:
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> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> So was I, they should update their info.
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh, ok. I was confused, because it said on the site: "works with Windows. 
>>> Instructions for Mac coming soon". Or something to that effect. I'll give 
>>> it a whirl, then.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
>>> 
 It definitely works on the Mac. Be aware that you have to run it from the 
 terminal though. There are complete instruction on the web site.
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 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:30 PM, erik burggraaf  
 wrote:
 
> No, It's windows and mac.
> 
> Bets,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through 
> the ontario disability support program at 
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-09-26, at 4:25 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, it strikes me as ironic that this seems to only work in Windows at 
>> the moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Paul Hunt]

Good job discovering this work around. It will work until Apple fixes contacts.

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
> 
> This must be a iPhone4 and 4s issue.  Because I had my iPhone5 using IOS7 for 
> 2 days, and now my 5s for almost a week, and I am able to edit contacts on my 
> 5s now, and on my 5 before I got my new device.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:43 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager
>  
> Hi Paul
> I think I have figured out a workaround until Apple fixes it. It's not true 
> that you can't edit the thing although it does appear that way. When I went 
> into the name field voice over didn't tell me that I was moving between 
> insertion point at start or insertion point at the end. I tried this twice, 
> and here is what I think I have figured out.
> 
> Voice over is just not telling you what is what. It appears that if you 
> double tap on the name field, that you end up automatically at insertion 
> point at end. When I did it, voice over said insertion point at start every 
> time, but that was not true all the time, I think. So for now, you can just 
> assume that you're at the end and delete character by character. I could not 
> get into the edit field where you could take out the whole thing if you 
> wanted to without doing a character by character deletion. However, I was 
> successful at editing the field although not normY like we're used to.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or 
> last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last 
> name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends 
> for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple 
> Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to edit 
> contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit product 
> feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering team to 
> see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this feedback 
> and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as well.
> 1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback page.
> 2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.
> 3.   I wrote my comments.
> 4.   I submitted the feedback.
>  
> When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I know 
> that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you catch 
> this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be sure that 
> apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any of you 
> elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the first 
> things you check since it’s of interest to everyone. Finally, if any of you 
> were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during BETA, 
> tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
> Paul
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Re: An apple IIE Emulator video demo

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, sorry for the off-topic post, but I'd like to know more about your 
signature at the bottom of your e-mail's but there's no contact link.  Can you 
tell me more about it off list?
On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:

> I want to thank Jessica for posting this to an email list that I am currently 
> involved on. To be honest, like her, I thought it might was going to be a 
> little bit more difficult than what it actually was to get this up and 
> running. My suggestion for you is to actually read the README file found when 
> you download the file. Here’s a video that I recorded, showing you how I am 
> able to actually load this file up and make it start running. Pretty 
> exciting, and, I hope it will at least bring back some memories for you.
> note: download linked can be found at the blog posting linked below:
> 
> http://empoweringtheblind.com/blog/an-apple-iie-emulator-video-demo/?id=empoweringtheblind
> Michael Babcock
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Re: Battery Life on IOS 7

[Brian Fischler]

I am down to 17% battery without a lot of usage and on wifi the entire day and 
the usage says 8 hours 54 minutes. Not sure what this really means but 
considering how little I used my phone today that seems pretty bad
On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> in settings/general/usage, how long does it say your phone was in use?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My iPhone was fully charged yesterday morning:
>> 
>> • down to 73% this morning.
>> • Background updating is On.
>> • a number of Apps including Weather, Messages and Safari are running in the 
>> background according to the App Switcher.
>> • iCloud Syncing is On.
>> • Mail notifications is on Manual.
>> • Calendar runs always and notifications are on.
>> • FaceBook notifications are On.
>> • Reduced Motion is On.
>> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
>> 
>> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute call 
>> from my son.  All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder block 
>> walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.  Lots of 
>> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in 
>> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.
>> 
>> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background things going on, 
>> and battery life is quite normal in my opinion.  As I mentioned before, I'm 
>> not sure why others are having issues, nor am I disputing that you're having 
>> these problems, I'm just not convinced that these problems are due to a bug 
>> in the iOS.  I've read lots of suggestions in this thread that may help 
>> including letting your battery totally drain then charging it up fully to 
>> reset any confusions with battery level, or possibly a weak battery issue, 
>> or specific app or background app problem.  We all use our iPhones for such 
>> varied tasks that its difficult to pin-point an exact, "fix-all" for 
>> everyone.
>> 
>> Have a good one.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> it seems that when these battery start to go bad, a lot of times they don't 
>>> just crash all it wants. At least, that's what mine did, it started giving 
>>> me less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it 
>>> might be beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Hi there
>>> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up 
>>> getting my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I 
>>> suspected I might have a problem.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. 
 GPS and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once 
 getting turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match 
 music over 3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's 
 battery down to about 20% in only a few hours, which meant we had to ditch 
 the directions for the rest of the trip and the way home. :) If I'm 
 connected to wifi, however, I seem to get a day or so from one charge. 
 That is, the battery isn't fully dead when I go to bed and charge it up 
 again. If I'm off wifi for the day but don't do anything crazy (like heavy 
 use of GPS or 3G) my battery will probably die in the evening once I'm 
 home again, but before going to bed.
 I haven't noticed any differences since upgrading to iOS 7.
 
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Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Kjsc Radio]

I'm having this VO bug under The contacts manager on my iPhone 4S.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Sep 2013, at 7:48 pm, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Good job discovering this work around. It will work until Apple fixes 
> contacts.
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>> 
>> This must be a iPhone4 and 4s issue.  Because I had my iPhone5 using IOS7 
>> for 2 days, and now my 5s for almost a week, and I am able to edit contacts 
>> on my 5s now, and on my 5 before I got my new device.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:43 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager
>>  
>> Hi Paul
>> I think I have figured out a workaround until Apple fixes it. It's not true 
>> that you can't edit the thing although it does appear that way. When I went 
>> into the name field voice over didn't tell me that I was moving between 
>> insertion point at start or insertion point at the end. I tried this twice, 
>> and here is what I think I have figured out.
>> 
>> Voice over is just not telling you what is what. It appears that if you 
>> double tap on the name field, that you end up automatically at insertion 
>> point at end. When I did it, voice over said insertion point at start every 
>> time, but that was not true all the time, I think. So for now, you can just 
>> assume that you're at the end and delete character by character. I could not 
>> get into the edit field where you could take out the whole thing if you 
>> wanted to without doing a character by character deletion. However, I was 
>> successful at editing the field although not normY like we're used to.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or 
>> last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last 
>> name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends 
>> for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple 
>> Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to 
>> edit contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit 
>> product feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering 
>> team to see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this 
>> feedback and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as 
>> well.
>> 1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback page.
>> 2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.
>> 3.   I wrote my comments.
>> 4.   I submitted the feedback.
>>  
>> When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I 
>> know that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you 
>> catch this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be 
>> sure that apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any 
>> of you elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the 
>> first things you check since it’s of interest to everyone. Finally, if any 
>> of you were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during 
>> BETA, tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.
>>  
>> Thanks so much.
>>  
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Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Did you try to edit first and last names with your IPhone 5? The other 
fields are editable in the normal way but the first and last name fields are 
not.

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Good job discovering this work around. It will work until Apple fixes 
> contacts.
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>> 
>> This must be a iPhone4 and 4s issue.  Because I had my iPhone5 using IOS7 
>> for 2 days, and now my 5s for almost a week, and I am able to edit contacts 
>> on my 5s now, and on my 5 before I got my new device.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:43 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager
>>  
>> Hi Paul
>> I think I have figured out a workaround until Apple fixes it. It's not true 
>> that you can't edit the thing although it does appear that way. When I went 
>> into the name field voice over didn't tell me that I was moving between 
>> insertion point at start or insertion point at the end. I tried this twice, 
>> and here is what I think I have figured out.
>> 
>> Voice over is just not telling you what is what. It appears that if you 
>> double tap on the name field, that you end up automatically at insertion 
>> point at end. When I did it, voice over said insertion point at start every 
>> time, but that was not true all the time, I think. So for now, you can just 
>> assume that you're at the end and delete character by character. I could not 
>> get into the edit field where you could take out the whole thing if you 
>> wanted to without doing a character by character deletion. However, I was 
>> successful at editing the field although not normY like we're used to.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or 
>> last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last 
>> name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends 
>> for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple 
>> Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to 
>> edit contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit 
>> product feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering 
>> team to see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this 
>> feedback and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as 
>> well.
>> 1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback page.
>> 2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.
>> 3.   I wrote my comments.
>> 4.   I submitted the feedback.
>>  
>> When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I 
>> know that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you 
>> catch this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be 
>> sure that apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any 
>> of you elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the 
>> first things you check since it’s of interest to everyone. Finally, if any 
>> of you were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during 
>> BETA, tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.
>>  
>> Thanks so much.
>>  
>> Paul
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Re: vomit comet » There Is An Apple IIe Emulator With Echo Speech. Thank You, Internet

[Michael Babcock]

hey;
yep;
it's 
http://empoweringtheblind.com/
i think your looking for the latest posting…
hth

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On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Michael,
> Could you send your blog link again?
> I accidentally deleted the message.
> Thanks,
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Gemini
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
> 
>> check out the link i linked to at empowering the blind; it links directly to 
>> the mac package; it's the second link down.
>> Michael Babcock
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>> Lets get social on Facebook:
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>> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and free!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> So was I, they should update their info.
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 Oh, ok. I was confused, because it said on the site: "works with Windows. 
 Instructions for Mac coming soon". Or something to that effect. I'll give 
 it a whirl, then.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
 
> It definitely works on the Mac. Be aware that you have to run it from the 
> terminal though. There are complete instruction on the web site.
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> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:30 PM, erik burggraaf  
> wrote:
> 
>> No, It's windows and mac.
>> 
>> Bets,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through 
>> the ontario disability support program at 
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 4:25 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm, it strikes me as ironic that this seems to only work in Windows 
>>> at the moment. Perhaps because it's a DOS flavor?
>>> 
>>> Teresa
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PORTABLE CHARGERS

[wayne17a]

Hello ,list can somebody please give me some advice on a good portable
charger, for my devices such as a victor stream,a iphone ,and a ipad thanks
in advance 

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how to add background music to videos on youtube

[Michael Babcock]

hey guys;
I was looking at some of the videos that i had up on my youtube… I posted this 
one about 2 months ago; and I wanted to send it on to this list; just incase 
some of you wanted to do this; or incase some of you didn't know this could 
even be done…
I don't explain very well how I do this, but I utilize voiceover in this video 
and explain to the best of my ability is what I am doing in order to get the 
music to play in the background behind this video. Check it out, it's not that 
long, and you might be able to learn something. Experiment with it, I 
personally would like to see what other people come up with.
http://youtu.be/HM5KsUbkb3Q
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Text documents on Mac

[Helena Fehr]

Is this abbey Fine Reader on the Mac app-store? Also, is there a good scanning 
app at a reasonable price that will work to scan documents on the Mac?
This is rather off-topic, but I'm also wondering if it is possible to use the 
Juliet Pro 60 embosser on the Mac. I'm switching more and more to my Mac, since 
my windows computer is driving me insane, and I think it's pretty much junk. 
Right now it sits in my dorm room and gets used as a radio for iTunes music, a 
charger for my iPhone and bluetooth headset because I don't have enough plug-in 
outlets in my room otherwise, to scan and braille because at this time I can't 
do those things on the Mac. If I can save up enough money I want to buy an 
iMac, and then leave this old Windows junk at home, so at least I have back-up 
if something goes screwy or something. Sorry for those of you who still like 
windows; I'm not dissing them; I just think my computer's one of those old 
referbished ones the government bought me, and  tried to put Windows seven on 
it, and now it does screwy things like programs stop responding, and then I 
have to restart the computer completely because the task manager isn't 
accessible with screenreaders, and it drives me nuts. Thanks, guys!
God Bless!!!
Helena

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Re: how to add background music to videos on youtube

[Ray Foret jr]

Mike, I am glad you put this up.  I  started you know just sort of playing 
around with Imovie and found that if I position the playback head exactly where 
I wanted it to be and then pressed the slash key to play the selection, I could 
then move the ending point by just using the shift+right and left keys, and, I 
can hear the playback change with the movement of the ending head.  this means 
that, I can playce the start head by interacting with it, then, move the ending 
head close to it, then play the selection and move the ending point right or 
left until it's frame perfect!  What you think?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Michael Babcock  
wrote:

> hey guys;
> I was looking at some of the videos that i had up on my youtube… I posted 
> this one about 2 months ago; and I wanted to send it on to this list; just 
> incase some of you wanted to do this; or incase some of you didn't know this 
> could even be done…
> I don't explain very well how I do this, but I utilize voiceover in this 
> video and explain to the best of my ability is what I am doing in order to 
> get the music to play in the background behind this video. Check it out, it's 
> not that long, and you might be able to learn something. Experiment with it, 
> I personally would like to see what other people come up with.
> http://youtu.be/HM5KsUbkb3Q
> Michael Babcock
> Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
> Lets get social on Facebook:
> http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
> ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and free!
> 
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Re: Update

[Chris Blouch]

Supposed to fix some bugs related to security of the passcode and put 
the Greek keyboard back in.


http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1685?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

CB

On 9/26/13 9:18 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Interesting, I haven't seen it, but haven't looked yet either.  What's 
different about it?
On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:



Hi guys
Did you guys know there is already an update for IOS 7? It's 7.0.2.

,reg>ds1
,gigi
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Re: how to add background music to videos on youtube

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. Just as a side note to music for youtube videos, or any other sort
of video for that matter, I compose and produce original music for
various types of media, including videos. If anybody would be
interested in original music for any sort of project, please drop me a
note off list to discuss your specific needs.

Thanks and have a great day,

Cameron.




On 9/26/13, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> Mike, I am glad you put this up.  I  started you know just sort of playing
> around with Imovie and found that if I position the playback head exactly
> where I wanted it to be and then pressed the slash key to play the
> selection, I could then move the ending point by just using the shift+right
> and left keys, and, I can hear the playback change with the movement of the
> ending head.  this means that, I can playce the start head by interacting
> with it, then, move the ending head close to it, then play the selection and
> move the ending point right or left until it's frame perfect!  What you
> think?
>
>
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Michael Babcock 
> wrote:
>
>> hey guys;
>> I was looking at some of the videos that i had up on my youtube… I posted
>> this one about 2 months ago; and I wanted to send it on to this list; just
>> incase some of you wanted to do this; or incase some of you didn't know
>> this could even be done…
>> I don't explain very well how I do this, but I utilize voiceover in this
>> video and explain to the best of my ability is what I am doing in order to
>> get the music to play in the background behind this video. Check it out,
>> it's not that long, and you might be able to learn something. Experiment
>> with it, I personally would like to see what other people come up with.
>> http://youtu.be/HM5KsUbkb3Q
>> Michael Babcock
>> Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
>> Lets get social on Facebook:
>> http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
>> ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me
>> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and
>> free!
>>
>> empoweringthebl...@icloud.com
>>
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Re: how to add background music to videos on youtube

[Michael Babcock]

thanks; i'm going to have to play with iMovie more when i have a few moments… 
my fiancé is going to do some work over the next few days; so i should be able 
to play with iMovie a bit… Thanks for this tidbit;; i've got iMovie; just 
haven't looked at it really… 
Michael Babcock
Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
Lets get social on Facebook:
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

> Mike, I am glad you put this up.  I  started you know just sort of playing 
> around with Imovie and found that if I position the playback head exactly 
> where I wanted it to be and then pressed the slash key to play the selection, 
> I could then move the ending point by just using the shift+right and left 
> keys, and, I can hear the playback change with the movement of the ending 
> head.  this means that, I can playce the start head by interacting with it, 
> then, move the ending head close to it, then play the selection and move the 
> ending point right or left until it's frame perfect!  What you think?
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Michael Babcock  
> wrote:
> 
>> hey guys;
>> I was looking at some of the videos that i had up on my youtube… I posted 
>> this one about 2 months ago; and I wanted to send it on to this list; just 
>> incase some of you wanted to do this; or incase some of you didn't know this 
>> could even be done…
>> I don't explain very well how I do this, but I utilize voiceover in this 
>> video and explain to the best of my ability is what I am doing in order to 
>> get the music to play in the background behind this video. Check it out, 
>> it's not that long, and you might be able to learn something. Experiment 
>> with it, I personally would like to see what other people come up with.
>> http://youtu.be/HM5KsUbkb3Q
>> Michael Babcock
>> Blogger for the site, empowering the blind… google me, i'm real!
>> Lets get social on Facebook:
>> http://facebook.com/empoweringtheblind/
>> ~~~-If your looking for a real way to make daily money online, contact me 
>> personally, i've got something you should see… oh yeah, it's real, and free!
>> 
>> empoweringthebl...@icloud.com
>> 
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voice dram

[Kerri]

can you please tell me some about voice dream?
On 2013-09-26, at 6:43 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> I personally like voice dream better than read2go.
> Also, I wish we had access to Bookshare ion the US because they get more 
> books than we do in Canada.
> Still going to check it out though.
> Matt Dierckens
> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
> 
> IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
> Sight Substitution Centre
> 
> On 2013-09-26, at 6:07 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> I do have read 2 go but not voice dream reader … yet.
>> On 2013-09-26, at 2:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Glad to hear it.  And both the Read2Go and Voice Dream Reader apps work 
>>> really well with Bookshare books.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a big 
 help.
 On 2013-09-26, at 5:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists 
> who would be interested.
> 
> In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that 
> some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it 
> than what you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
> 
> 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the 
> CNIB:
> http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
> 
> Best,
> Donna
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Re: Fastest Way to Scan Books?

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

hi, when i decided too become a nurse i had too find out how too get
my information, obviously it meant i had too scan the books, i could
see what was around me , but obviously not read any single letter, and
well seen from my perspective, if an dyslexic can go through live with
out being able too connect letters and live happily so can i.
okies, so well a scanner was obviously what i needed, too me i knew it
was about getting the right tool for the right job, never mind if it
meant getting windows in a vmware image. As Eric i believe it was
said, study books and i tell you especially medical books can fast run
up in over $ 1. So i had too find a way i could get some of my
money back once i was done with the books.



How i did it.



I don't know how long time others have had too prepare for classes
etc, but it is not a unknown fact that nurses read massive amounts of
books, so for me it had to work the first time. and which solution
could give me that?
I started googling as a mad girl, 1 month to go, it was a tight fit. I
was actually unlike me not far from giving up when  i found a store in
Copenhagen, called scan data or some such.
I told the owner what i needed and 50 minutes after i received a huge
package,. one scanner, a cd and the different connectors.
, it was a optic plus 2500 or so i believe, but i can find that out
more precisely later, the reason i got that scanner is as follows.
I knew my time table would be tight so i needed something both complex
and simple at the same time, i had been working with computers for
over 10 years, so i was relatively confident i could make it work one
way or the other.
The special thing about this scanner is not that it scans the books,
obviously, which it does relatively fast or slow, it is 23 seconds
before the scanning head is ready to go round the bush again. And
since it was the best solution i could get at that time all in all, it
was what i got. For medical books it works, if you do not scan the
whole book at one time. if you do your arms will be tired at the end.

The scanning process.
Okay so now we come too the most complex part of it all, or maybe not,
the scanning process, and how too do it.
Press contact, flip book over too the other half of its open page,
press contact again, turn page, press contact, do it as many times as
you need, for a book on about 400 pages , that would mean about 800
times.

So now that we got the book done and finish, what do you do? you OCR
it. press tab on your computer a few times, and it goes about doing
its thing as you go do something else, when it is done, it lays in a
notepad document and is ready to be read, as fast as you can manage.
Is it the Fastest way too scan a book on about 400 pages, i doubt it ,
but for OCR and scanning  over all i say that it works pretty well if
you want it simple, also the alinement of the book is quite easy, so
far my only worry have been if it could run under vmware on my mac.
And it does that gorgeously with nvda.



A few words about why i got exactly this scanner.
I am not kidding when i say the following, medical books will in the
long run cost me more than my car, but too me it means that if i use a
scanner solution with out cutting the book up that i can sell it
again, and by that way get some of the money back from the book,
meaning obviously that i can use them for getting the rest of the
needed money for more books.
As i have said before, unless you are a really strong female, scanning
 1000 pages in one go will tire you out.
I do believe i did it one time, and that was only cause i got Sandi
stubborn, and is not too be repeated. The other reason for getting
that scanner is that medical books are huge, page vice, it is not your
normal book sized novel.
The scanner it self was invented too scan old books, at least if i
shall trust the homepage. And i have too admit that it does that
really well, you see there are 2 things we have too remember  when we
scan for studying, accuracy and speed. and i choose too call it
reusability of the scanned book, so at least for me cutting the books
too pieces is not an option, hey i am not rockefella, i am the other
fella smiles.
so realistically, how many pages can you scan on, say 1 hour, i will
say, 200 if you are focused about it. I am a bit of an airhead at
times, so it is most likely you can get it up too about 300.
So all in all, if you want the book scanned ultra fast this option is
most definitely not for you, but i am pretty sure it is the one that
gives the best solution in the long run, but then again, if you are
just needing it for reading a novel, i don't know how much the
accuracy means too you.
I personally have the scanning process running under windows xp
installed under vmware fusion, and i got to  admit i was pretty
surprised too discover that the process worked as well under fusion as
it would under a native windows environment.
Eric, how well is the OCR after you have used the cam, i wonder, if
that process is fast

Re: voice dram

[Alex Hall]

What do you want to know? It reads pdf, doc, epub, daisy, and a few other 
formats in any of the A Capella or, on iOS7, VO's HQ voices. It hooks into 
Dropbox, Bookshare, Project Gutenberg, Instapaper, and Google Drive to get 
content. It has a sleep timer, background playback, text searching, full 
navigation (at least whatever the file supports), folders, saved reading 
positions, bookmarking, and more. It cannot currently read daisy audio books.
On Sep 27, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Kerri  wrote:

> can you please tell me some about voice dream?
> On 2013-09-26, at 6:43 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> I personally like voice dream better than read2go.
>> Also, I wish we had access to Bookshare ion the US because they get more 
>> books than we do in Canada.
>> Still going to check it out though.
>> Matt Dierckens
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> 
>> IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
>> Sight Substitution Centre
>> 
>> On 2013-09-26, at 6:07 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> I do have read 2 go but not voice dream reader … yet.
>>> On 2013-09-26, at 2:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Glad to hear it.  And both the Read2Go and Voice Dream Reader apps work 
 really well with Bookshare books.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:
 
> Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a 
> big help.
> On 2013-09-26, at 5:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists 
>> who would be interested.
>> 
>> In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that 
>> some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about it 
>> than what you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
>> 
>> 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the 
>> CNIB:
>> http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
>> 
>> Best,
>> Donna
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Re: voice dram

[Kerri]

thanks, Alex, that was what I wanted to know.
On 2013-09-26, at 9:48 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> What do you want to know? It reads pdf, doc, epub, daisy, and a few other 
> formats in any of the A Capella or, on iOS7, VO's HQ voices. It hooks into 
> Dropbox, Bookshare, Project Gutenberg, Instapaper, and Google Drive to get 
> content. It has a sleep timer, background playback, text searching, full 
> navigation (at least whatever the file supports), folders, saved reading 
> positions, bookmarking, and more. It cannot currently read daisy audio books.
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> can you please tell me some about voice dream?
>> On 2013-09-26, at 6:43 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>>> I personally like voice dream better than read2go.
>>> Also, I wish we had access to Bookshare ion the US because they get more 
>>> books than we do in Canada.
>>> Still going to check it out though.
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
>>> Sight Substitution Centre
>>> 
>>> On 2013-09-26, at 6:07 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>>> 
 I do have read 2 go but not voice dream reader … yet.
 On 2013-09-26, at 2:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Glad to hear it.  And both the Read2Go and Voice Dream Reader apps work 
> really well with Bookshare books.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Donna, I am Canadian and since I cannot access Bard, this is a 
>> big help.
>> On 2013-09-26, at 5:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Excuse the cross-post, but I thought there might be folks on both lists 
>>> who would be interested.
>>> 
>>> In Top Tech Tidbits this morning, there was an item that mentioned that 
>>> some Canadians can now get access to Bookshare.  I know no more about 
>>> it than what you see below, but post in the event that it is helpful.
>>> 
>>> 8) Some Canadians can now get free memberships to Bookshare through the 
>>> CNIB:
>>> http://www.cniblibrary.ca/iguana/www.main.cls?v=6d0059d6-6493-4520-a5f4-
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
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RE: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

[Kliphton]

Yes I have, even created a couple of new contacts.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

 

Hello. Did you try to edit first and last names with your IPhone 5? The
other fields are editable in the normal way but the first and last name
fields are not.


On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Paul Hunt mailto:prhu...@att.net> > wrote:

Good job discovering this work around. It will work until Apple fixes
contacts.


On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "Kliphton" mailto:kliph...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This must be a iPhone4 and 4s issue.  Because I had my iPhone5 using IOS7
for 2 days, and now my 5s for almost a week, and I am able to edit contacts
on my 5s now, and on my 5 before I got my new device.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: IOS 7: bug in contact manager

 

Hi Paul
I think I have figured out a workaround until Apple fixes it. It's not true
that you can't edit the thing although it does appear that way. When I went
into the name field voice over didn't tell me that I was moving between
insertion point at start or insertion point at the end. I tried this twice,
and here is what I think I have figured out.

Voice over is just not telling you what is what. It appears that if you
double tap on the name field, that you end up automatically at insertion
point at end. When I did it, voice over said insertion point at start every
time, but that was not true all the time, I think. So for now, you can just
assume that you're at the end and delete character by character. I could not
get into the edit field where you could take out the whole thing if you
wanted to without doing a character by character deletion. However, I was
successful at editing the field although not normY like we're used to.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Paul Hunt mailto:prhu...@att.net> > wrote:

Hello everyone. I tested this on my IPhone 4s. I cannot edit the first or
last name but can edit the other fields. If I type into the first or last
name field, characters are appended to the end of the field so Apple intends
for this field to be editable. I reported this issue to the Apple
Accessibility team. The representative confirmed that there is no way to
edit contacts while using Voice Over. First, he told me how to submit
product feedback. Then he told me that he would check with the Engineering
team to see if there is a work around. I followed these steps to submit this
feedback and I would encourage everyone on the list to submit feedback as
well.

1.   I went to the Apple Product Feedback
  page.

2.   Since I have an IPhone 4s, I accessed the IPhone link.

3.   I wrote my comments.

4.   I submitted the feedback.

 

When submitting your feedback please specify that you are using IOS 7. I
know that some of you on this list have been testing IOS 7. Did any of you
catch this issue while testing and if so, did you report it. I want to be
sure that apple responds to these issues during Beta testing. Please, if any
of you elect to beta test IOS in the future, contacts should be one of the
first things you check since it's of interest to everyone. Finally, if any
of you were successful getting your feedback heard and responded to during
BETA, tell us exactly how you did it so that we can help in the future.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Paul

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