Re: extracting contents of zipped files on the mac

2013-05-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

have you tried using the unarchiver?

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On May 24, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> I have had some zip files not opening on the mac. No idea why. It's only been 
> one or two out of the many I've tried, but I have seen what the original 
> poster reported. I had to unzip it in Windows. NO idea why some zip files 
> don't open properly.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 24/05/2013, at 9:06 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> I did one yesterday. I put my cursor on top of the file name that had 
>> the.zip extension, impressed commando. When I press down arrow, my unzipped 
>> files were there it took about two seconds. It's a lot easier than 
>> unzippering  them in Windows.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> On May 23, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> It does it automatically, leaving you with the original zip file and a 
>>> folder containing the zip file's contents. If you have file extensions 
>>> disabled you may hear the file and folder, which will have the same name, 
>>> and think you have only copied the zip file. One, though, is the unzipped 
>>> folder.
>>> On May 23, 2013, at 1:29 PM, shane christenson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks. When I try to open a zip file on my mac, it seems to only want 
 to make another copy of the file. How do I tell the archive utility to 
 extract the file? Thanks
 
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Re: extracting contents of zipped files on the mac

2013-05-24 Thread Gerry Cook
Hi I've found stuffet expander from the app store free to be very good as well. 
It's opend some files that the unarchiver hasn't been able to, and there's 
archive utility that, comes up with open with. Thanks.
cheers gerry have a great day
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On May 24, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> have you tried using the unarchiver?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On May 24, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> I have had some zip files not opening on the mac. No idea why. It's only 
>> been one or two out of the many I've tried, but I have seen what the 
>> original poster reported. I had to unzip it in Windows. NO idea why some zip 
>> files don't open properly.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 24/05/2013, at 9:06 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> I did one yesterday. I put my cursor on top of the file name that had 
>>> the.zip extension, impressed commando. When I press down arrow, my unzipped 
>>> files were there it took about two seconds. It's a lot easier than 
>>> unzippering  them in Windows.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> On May 23, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 It does it automatically, leaving you with the original zip file and a 
 folder containing the zip file's contents. If you have file extensions 
 disabled you may hear the file and folder, which will have the same name, 
 and think you have only copied the zip file. One, though, is the unzipped 
 folder.
 On May 23, 2013, at 1:29 PM, shane christenson  wrote:
 
> Hi folks. When I try to open a zip file on my mac, it seems to only want 
> to make another copy of the file. How do I tell the archive utility to 
> extract the file? Thanks
> 
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Re: extracting contents of zipped files on the mac

2013-05-24 Thread Danny Noonan
I love stuffit expander. The only issue I ever had was with a multi gig archive 
and I think it was a bad archive anyway. 

Danny


Sent from my iPhone

On 24/05/2013, at 7:14 PM, Gerry Cook  wrote:

> Hi I've found stuffet expander from the app store free to be very good as 
> well. It's opend some files that the unarchiver hasn't been able to, and 
> there's archive utility that, comes up with open with. Thanks.
> cheers gerry have a great day
> skype: gerry.cook1
> email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
> 
> On May 24, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> have you tried using the unarchiver?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> On May 24, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have had some zip files not opening on the mac. No idea why. It's only 
>>> been one or two out of the many I've tried, but I have seen what the 
>>> original poster reported. I had to unzip it in Windows. NO idea why some 
>>> zip files don't open properly.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
>>> On 24/05/2013, at 9:06 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 I did one yesterday. I put my cursor on top of the file name that had 
 the.zip extension, impressed commando. When I press down arrow, my 
 unzipped files were there it took about two seconds. It's a lot easier 
 than unzippering  them in Windows.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 On May 23, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> It does it automatically, leaving you with the original zip file and a 
> folder containing the zip file's contents. If you have file extensions 
> disabled you may hear the file and folder, which will have the same name, 
> and think you have only copied the zip file. One, though, is the unzipped 
> folder.
> On May 23, 2013, at 1:29 PM, shane christenson  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks. When I try to open a zip file on my mac, it seems to only want 
>> to make another copy of the file. How do I tell the archive utility to 
>> extract the file? Thanks
>> 
>> Shane
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Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites

2013-05-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.

When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some other 
window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using VoiceOver it is 
of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might be. So what usually 
works for me is just closing that window or application and opening it again. 
Also try closing any other windows you might have open. Use the windows chooser 
(VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if there are any other windows or notifications 
open. Try quitting all other applications before you try dragging and dropping 
again.

The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full screen 
mode nearly always works for me.
 
Best of luck.

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date & time in icloud

2013-05-24 Thread ppowells09
Hi list,
I hope someone can either help me or tell me I am nuts.
I have a friend who is trying to set time zone & location settings in icloud.
He is not much of a cloud person, however he set it up in order to use the find 
my iphone feature & find my mac.
I can't find anything in icloud preferences that relates to date & time, though 
he said it was there. I looked in system preferences & checked out sharing. Can 
anyone please tell me how to help him straighten out his time zone & location 
using voiceover? Currently, it is set to pacific & cupertino. He lives in 
Florida.

Pam Francis

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to the person asking about the chess clock

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
A few days ago I was going back and forth with someone about a chess clock 
application. I said that Applescript would not work for his purposes, but I was 
completely wrong. It looks like I may be able to make a series of scripts to do 
exactly what he wanted, though I have not done so yet and cannot be totally 
certain. Still, it looks prmising. Can that person please contact me off-list 
so I can get a detailed explanation of what he was after? Thanks.


Have a great day,
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Re: date & time in icloud

2013-05-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I'm thinking that he may just be a little confused.  I've never noticed 
anything of the sort within the iCloud pane of System Prefs nor do I remember 
anything like that in previous versions of the pane.  Normally, when you enable 
the Find My Mac component of iCloud, it will ask you if you will allow the 
Location Service to keep track of your Mac and you should click the "Allow" 
button.  By default, many Macs upon initial setup are set to the Pacific Time 
Zone so it is a good idea to go within the Date & Time pane of System Prefs, 
under the Time Zone tab and enter a major city close to you within your 
specific Time Zone.  The Mac will automatically adjust your time and Time Zone 
info when the new city is entered.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-05-24, at 8:08 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi list,
> I hope someone can either help me or tell me I am nuts.
> I have a friend who is trying to set time zone & location settings in icloud.
> He is not much of a cloud person, however he set it up in order to use the 
> find my iphone feature & find my mac.
> I can't find anything in icloud preferences that relates to date & time, 
> though he said it was there. I looked in system preferences & checked out 
> sharing. Can anyone please tell me how to help him straighten out his time 
> zone & location using voiceover? Currently, it is set to pacific & cupertino. 
> He lives in Florida.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: Deleting photos from the camera roll on iPhone 5 once they have been transferred to an album.

2013-05-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

The Camera Roll is where the master copy of your photo is kept, similar to the 
Music Library in iTunes.  Each album simply has a reference to the 
original/master photo as in iTunes, songs within a playlist are simply 
references to the master copy in the main Library.  So, in fact, you are not 
actually copying the photo to another album, you are just making an alias to 
that photo in another location.  This is why iPhones and Macs don't use up huge 
amounts of space duplicating photos/music within your given Library.  So, 
essentially, you can remove a photo from a specific album without it affecting 
anything else but when you remove the photo from the Camera Roll, you are 
removing the actual photo from the device which will remove it from everywhere.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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wrote:

> I have separated my camera roll pictures into albums, for posting on 
> Facebook. However, Facebook is still showing duplicates which are stored in 
> the camera roll. However, when I try to delete them from the camera roll, it 
> says that my only option is to delete them from everywhere, including my 
> albums.
> 
> How do I empty my camera roll, while keeping the picture it copies in the 
> albums where they are intended to be?
> 
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Assisting an App developer with accessibility issues

2013-05-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi,

I have encountered an app that, I believe, would be very useful to blind iPhone 
and iPad users who work in multilingual environments.  When I notified the app 
developer that the buttons in his app weren't accessibly labelled, he said:
"

I'm very sorry to hear that the buttons are not labeled in a way that works 
with VoiceOver. This may be due to the programming environment I use (called 
Appcelerator Titanium). I'll investigate that!"

Will he be able to rectify this situation within the constraints of his 
programming environment and if so, what should he do?  I myself am not a 
programmer, but I will pass along any useful information to him.

Best regards,

Mike

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type2phone how to leave search field on ios

2013-05-24 Thread anouk radix
Hi, I was not sure if i should post this her eon viphone but since i 
have the'issue'when using the mac app type2phone i thought i should post 
it here.
I just started using this app after listening to the excellent applevis 
podcast and i like it a lot. I just use some basic shortcuts to use the 
home button and to tap items, however when i type text in an edit field 
(a search field in this case) i cant seem to get out of this field by 
using the standard arrow keys, i did not have quicknav turned on before 
starting to type as far as i know (i have no quicknav shortcuts setup. 
Does anyone know what i can do about this, besides using the iphone itself?

Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: type2phone how to leave search field on ios

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
You can try a shortcut for quicknav, and/or flicking left and right (I don't 
remember if that is in the menus). The iPhone turns quicknav off as soon as you 
enter a text field to edit it, so you'll need a way to force it back on. You 
said you already have shortcuts for other functions, so I assume you are 
familiar with how to do this.
On May 24, 2013, at 12:24 PM, anouk radix  wrote:

> Hi, I was not sure if i should post this her eon viphone but since i have 
> the'issue'when using the mac app type2phone i thought i should post it here.
> I just started using this app after listening to the excellent applevis 
> podcast and i like it a lot. I just use some basic shortcuts to use the home 
> button and to tap items, however when i type text in an edit field (a search 
> field in this case) i cant seem to get out of this field by using the 
> standard arrow keys, i did not have quicknav turned on before starting to 
> type as far as i know (i have no quicknav shortcuts setup. Does anyone know 
> what i can do about this, besides using the iphone itself?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
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VIP Hell in Mail

2013-05-24 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.
Somewhow i seem  to have nearly added my entire contact list to the VIP 
mailbox.  Is there an easy way I can delete the entire VIP list?  Thanks.

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Re: Windows 8 and boot camp

2013-05-24 Thread Bill Holton
Thanks.
Were you able to complete the install yourself or did you need sighted help?

On May 23, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:

> I'm using windows 8 with bootcamp right now and it definitely works... :D
> 
> On 5/22/13, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> Actually, an Apple representative just told me it was, and he gave me a FAQ
>> for installing it.
>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5628?viewlocale=en_US
>> 
>> US
>> 
>> Q from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 22, 2013, at 10:55 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> If I'm not mistaken, only windows 7 is currently supported via bootcamp.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Bill Holton" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:29 AM
>>> Subject: Windows 8 and boot camp
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi.
 Has anyone done a boot camp install with Windows 8?  I have several
 questions, perhaps for off list?  Thanks.
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Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites

2013-05-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Nicholas,

You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my mac 
day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application closed 
everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a restart, and 
still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item might be hidden. I 
then did everything the old fashioned way called someone who could see and had 
them come over. They confirmed that nothing was blocking the mailbox I was 
trying to move, and I was still getting the same message. I had them drag and 
drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they were able to do it in 2 seconds, so 
yes, this is obviously a bug with Voiceover which leads to having a I hate my 
mac day, as I hate not being able to do something so simple that should take me 
two seconds.
On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.
> 
> When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some other 
> window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using VoiceOver it is 
> of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might be. So what 
> usually works for me is just closing that window or application and opening 
> it again. Also try closing any other windows you might have open. Use the 
> windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if there are any other windows 
> or notifications open. Try quitting all other applications before you try 
> dragging and dropping again.
> 
> The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full screen 
> mode nearly always works for me.
> 
> Best of luck.
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Re: VIP Hell in Mail

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
A quick search gave me this:
Adding people to the VIP list in this manner will create a property list file 
called "VIPSenders.plist" in the username/Library/V2/MailData/ folder if it 
does not already exist...
You could try deleting that file. I can't promise nothing will break, but at 
least move it out of the folder and/or rename it. You should also open it and 
look through it manually to be sure there is nothing important in there.
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> Hi.
> Somewhow i seem  to have nearly added my entire contact list to the VIP 
> mailbox.  Is there an easy way I can delete the entire VIP list?  Thanks.
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Re: VIP Hell in Mail

2013-05-24 Thread Bill Holton
Thanks.
Can you remind me how I can get to my user library?  Much appreciation.

On May 24, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> A quick search gave me this:
> Adding people to the VIP list in this manner will create a property list file 
> called "VIPSenders.plist" in the username/Library/V2/MailData/ folder if it 
> does not already exist...
> You could try deleting that file. I can't promise nothing will break, but at 
> least move it out of the folder and/or rename it. You should also open it and 
> look through it manually to be sure there is nothing important in there.
> On May 24, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
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>> Hi.
>> Somewhow i seem  to have nearly added my entire contact list to the VIP 
>> mailbox.  Is there an easy way I can delete the entire VIP list?  Thanks.
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Re: VIP Hell in Mail

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
Open Finder, hit cmd-shift-g, and type this:
~/library
That will open up the library folder in the current user's directory. 
Incidentally, the same holds for the global library folder, but you'd just type
/library
instead (the tilde symbol means "home").
On May 24, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> Thanks.
> Can you remind me how I can get to my user library?  Much appreciation.
> 
> On May 24, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> A quick search gave me this:
>> Adding people to the VIP list in this manner will create a property list 
>> file called "VIPSenders.plist" in the username/Library/V2/MailData/ folder 
>> if it does not already exist...
>> You could try deleting that file. I can't promise nothing will break, but at 
>> least move it out of the folder and/or rename it. You should also open it 
>> and look through it manually to be sure there is nothing important in there.
>> On May 24, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> Somewhow i seem  to have nearly added my entire contact list to the VIP 
>>> mailbox.  Is there an easy way I can delete the entire VIP list?  Thanks.
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Re: date & time in icloud

2013-05-24 Thread ppowells09
I certainly appreciate your help. I didn't see anything in icloud either, nor 
do I remember having to set a time one in icloud when I set up my account to 
turn on find my iphone & find my mac. 
Thanks much.

Pam Francis

On May 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

I'm thinking that he may just be a little confused.  I've never noticed 
anything of the sort within the iCloud pane of System Prefs nor do I remember 
anything like that in previous versions of the pane.  Normally, when you enable 
the Find My Mac component of iCloud, it will ask you if you will allow the 
Location Service to keep track of your Mac and you should click the "Allow" 
button.  By default, many Macs upon initial setup are set to the Pacific Time 
Zone so it is a good idea to go within the Date & Time pane of System Prefs, 
under the Time Zone tab and enter a major city close to you within your 
specific Time Zone.  The Mac will automatically adjust your time and Time Zone 
info when the new city is entered.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi list,
> I hope someone can either help me or tell me I am nuts.
> I have a friend who is trying to set time zone & location settings in icloud.
> He is not much of a cloud person, however he set it up in order to use the 
> find my iphone feature & find my mac.
> I can't find anything in icloud preferences that relates to date & time, 
> though he said it was there. I looked in system preferences & checked out 
> sharing. Can anyone please tell me how to help him straighten out his time 
> zone & location using voiceover? Currently, it is set to pacific & cupertino. 
> He lives in Florida.
> 
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Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites

2013-05-24 Thread John Panarese
Hi Brian,
It isn't easy, but adding mailboxes to the favorites bar is doable with 
VoiceOver.  You must be sure the favorites bar is showing first off, and then, 
be sure you mark the mailbox for drag and drop and then navigate to the 
favorites bar itself to drop the mailbox.  I don't think you need to interact 
with the favorites bar though to drop the mailbox.


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On May 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Nicholas,
> 
> You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my mac 
> day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application closed 
> everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a restart, and 
> still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item might be hidden. I 
> then did everything the old fashioned way called someone who could see and 
> had them come over. They confirmed that nothing was blocking the mailbox I 
> was trying to move, and I was still getting the same message. I had them drag 
> and drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they were able to do it in 2 
> seconds, so yes, this is obviously a bug with Voiceover which leads to having 
> a I hate my mac day, as I hate not being able to do something so simple that 
> should take me two seconds.
> On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.
>> 
>> When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some 
>> other window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using 
>> VoiceOver it is of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might 
>> be. So what usually works for me is just closing that window or application 
>> and opening it again. Also try closing any other windows you might have 
>> open. Use the windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if there are any 
>> other windows or notifications open. Try quitting all other applications 
>> before you try dragging and dropping again.
>> 
>> The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full screen 
>> mode nearly always works for me.
>> 
>> Best of luck.
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Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites

2013-05-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey John,

Yes, I did exactly what you said to do, and yes, the favorites bar was showing, 
spent hours on this trying everything VO comma, and the old way VO shift space 
bar, and couldn't get anything to work. Finally, I gave up and had a sighted 
person come over and do it in 2 seconds. These are the frustrating things with 
VO, and would be nice if Apple would address. As far as I believe, there hasn't 
been one single improvement to VO since Mountain Lion rolled out, and I can 
only get the same answer from Apple accessibility so many times on several 
issues. We are aware of the problem, but can't say when it will be fixed. 
Something so simple as them reversing the web spots so when you click VO 
command right bracket takes you right instead of left, would have been nice. If 
they can't fix that which to me seems something very basic to fix, and worked 
correctly in Lion, I don't put a lot of stock in any VO improvements until the 
next operating system comes out. I get that only a very small percentage of 
people use VO, and that Apple cannot commit a great number of resources to it, 
but just be honest, instead of treating us like idiots waiting for a fix. Don't 
get me wrong I do appreciate Apple's commitment to accessibility, it's the 
leading us to think there will be improvements that annoys me.
On May 24, 2013, at 4:05 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>It isn't easy, but adding mailboxes to the favorites bar is doable with 
> VoiceOver.  You must be sure the favorites bar is showing first off, and 
> then, be sure you mark the mailbox for drag and drop and then navigate to the 
> favorites bar itself to drop the mailbox.  I don't think you need to interact 
> with the favorites bar though to drop the mailbox.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> On May 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nicholas,
>> 
>> You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my 
>> mac day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application 
>> closed everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a 
>> restart, and still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item might 
>> be hidden. I then did everything the old fashioned way called someone who 
>> could see and had them come over. They confirmed that nothing was blocking 
>> the mailbox I was trying to move, and I was still getting the same message. 
>> I had them drag and drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they were able to 
>> do it in 2 seconds, so yes, this is obviously a bug with Voiceover which 
>> leads to having a I hate my mac day, as I hate not being able to do 
>> something so simple that should take me two seconds.
>> On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.
>>> 
>>> When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some 
>>> other window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using 
>>> VoiceOver it is of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might 
>>> be. So what usually works for me is just closing that window or application 
>>> and opening it again. Also try closing any other windows you might have 
>>> open. Use the windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if there are any 
>>> other windows or notifications open. Try quitting all other applications 
>>> before you try dragging and dropping again.
>>> 
>>> The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full 
>>> screen mode nearly always works for me.
>>> 
>>> Best of luck.
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Expanding & collapsing mailboxes in Mountain Lion

2013-05-24 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello All,

I'm pulling my hair out here because I've done something to my configuration so 
that I can't see all my mailboxes at level 2. They are imap boxes and I can 
only see the inboxes, trash and sent boxes. But a structure of folders and 
mailboxes for storing is still on the server and accessible as I can move 
messages to them but I can't traverse them. In order to read messages in those 
folders at level 2. I can access them on another machine, it's something I've 
done on this MP.

Anyone got any ideas of what I need to do to reveal all my filed messages?

Many thanks for your attention and suggestions.

Gena


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Re: Expanding & collapsing mailboxes in Mountain Lion

2013-05-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey,

I think I did the same thing recently. If you are looking to expand and 
collapse mailboxes and the standard VO left and right arrows isn't working, try 
the old command of VO slash the key to the right of the right bracket and below 
backspace, it is working on mine to collapse and expand mailboxes that I cannot 
interact with using the arrows. Hope this helps.
On May 24, 2013, at 6:48 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'm pulling my hair out here because I've done something to my configuration 
> so that I can't see all my mailboxes at level 2. They are imap boxes and I 
> can only see the inboxes, trash and sent boxes. But a structure of folders 
> and mailboxes for storing is still on the server and accessible as I can move 
> messages to them but I can't traverse them. In order to read messages in 
> those folders at level 2. I can access them on another machine, it's 
> something I've done on this MP.
> 
> Anyone got any ideas of what I need to do to reveal all my filed messages?
> 
> Many thanks for your attention and suggestions.
> 
> Gena
> 
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Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites

2013-05-24 Thread John Panarese
It works here.  I just tried it with another mailbox.  I'm not at all sure 
why it's not working for you.


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On May 24, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey John,
> 
> Yes, I did exactly what you said to do, and yes, the favorites bar was 
> showing, spent hours on this trying everything VO comma, and the old way VO 
> shift space bar, and couldn't get anything to work. Finally, I gave up and 
> had a sighted person come over and do it in 2 seconds. These are the 
> frustrating things with VO, and would be nice if Apple would address. As far 
> as I believe, there hasn't been one single improvement to VO since Mountain 
> Lion rolled out, and I can only get the same answer from Apple accessibility 
> so many times on several issues. We are aware of the problem, but can't say 
> when it will be fixed. Something so simple as them reversing the web spots so 
> when you click VO command right bracket takes you right instead of left, 
> would have been nice. If they can't fix that which to me seems something very 
> basic to fix, and worked correctly in Lion, I don't put a lot of stock in any 
> VO improvements until the next operating system comes out. I get that only a 
> very small percentage of people use VO, and that Apple cannot commit a great 
> number of resources to it, but just be honest, instead of treating us like 
> idiots waiting for a fix. Don't get me wrong I do appreciate Apple's 
> commitment to accessibility, it's the leading us to think there will be 
> improvements that annoys me.
> On May 24, 2013, at 4:05 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian,
>>   It isn't easy, but adding mailboxes to the favorites bar is doable with 
>> VoiceOver.  You must be sure the favorites bar is showing first off, and 
>> then, be sure you mark the mailbox for drag and drop and then navigate to 
>> the favorites bar itself to drop the mailbox.  I don't think you need to 
>> interact with the favorites bar though to drop the mailbox.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Nicholas,
>>> 
>>> You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my 
>>> mac day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application 
>>> closed everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a 
>>> restart, and still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item 
>>> might be hidden. I then did everything the old fashioned way called someone 
>>> who could see and had them come over. They confirmed that nothing was 
>>> blocking the mailbox I was trying to move, and I was still getting the same 
>>> message. I had them drag and drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they 
>>> were able to do it in 2 seconds, so yes, this is obviously a bug with 
>>> Voiceover which leads to having a I hate my mac day, as I hate not being 
>>> able to do something so simple that should take me two seconds.
>>> On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.
 
 When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some 
 other window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using 
 VoiceOver it is of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might 
 be. So what usually works for me is just closing that window or 
 application and opening it again. Also try closing any other windows you 
 might have open. Use the windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if 
 there are any other windows or notifications open. Try quitting all other 
 applications before you try dragging and dropping again.
 
 The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full 
 screen mode nearly always works for me.
 
 Best of luck.
 
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Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites

2013-05-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Just curious,  do you have the preview pane open in Mail?  I don't, I'm 
wondering if this might be why your having difficulty moving a mailbox to 
favorites, an I'm not?

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On May 24, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey John,
> 
> Yes, I did exactly what you said to do, and yes, the favorites bar was 
> showing, spent hours on this trying everything VO comma, and the old way VO 
> shift space bar, and couldn't get anything to work. Finally, I gave up and 
> had a sighted person come over and do it in 2 seconds. These are the 
> frustrating things with VO, and would be nice if Apple would address. As far 
> as I believe, there hasn't been one single improvement to VO since Mountain 
> Lion rolled out, and I can only get the same answer from Apple accessibility 
> so many times on several issues. We are aware of the problem, but can't say 
> when it will be fixed. Something so simple as them reversing the web spots so 
> when you click VO command right bracket takes you right instead of left, 
> would have been nice. If they can't fix that which to me seems something very 
> basic to fix, and worked correctly in Lion, I don't put a lot of stock in any 
> VO improvements until the next operating system comes out. I get that only a 
> very small percentage of people use VO, and that Apple cannot commit a great 
> number of resources to it, but just be honest, instead of treating us like 
> idiots waiting for a fix. Don't get me wrong I do appreciate Apple's 
> commitment to accessibility, it's the leading us to think there will be 
> improvements that annoys me.
> On May 24, 2013, at 4:05 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian,
>>   It isn't easy, but adding mailboxes to the favorites bar is doable with 
>> VoiceOver.  You must be sure the favorites bar is showing first off, and 
>> then, be sure you mark the mailbox for drag and drop and then navigate to 
>> the favorites bar itself to drop the mailbox.  I don't think you need to 
>> interact with the favorites bar though to drop the mailbox.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Nicholas,
>>> 
>>> You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my 
>>> mac day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application 
>>> closed everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a 
>>> restart, and still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item 
>>> might be hidden. I then did everything the old fashioned way called someone 
>>> who could see and had them come over. They confirmed that nothing was 
>>> blocking the mailbox I was trying to move, and I was still getting the same 
>>> message. I had them drag and drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they 
>>> were able to do it in 2 seconds, so yes, this is obviously a bug with 
>>> Voiceover which leads to having a I hate my mac day, as I hate not being 
>>> able to do something so simple that should take me two seconds.
>>> On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.
 
 When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some 
 other window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using 
 VoiceOver it is of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might 
 be. So what usually works for me is just closing that window or 
 application and opening it again. Also try closing any other windows you 
 might have open. Use the windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if 
 there are any other windows or notifications open. Try quitting all other 
 applications before you try dragging and dropping again.
 
 The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full 
 screen mode nearly always works for me.
 
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What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share what 
I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together a series 
of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is on or the 
default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are CPU, ram, wifi, 
and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each starts out by setting 
up a template. You can change this template, using keywords to define what is 
spoken where.

Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have the 
date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set to:
$24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
which yields, right now:
22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
$12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
and you'd hear something like:
10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013

My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I know 
which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of these have 
templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the script's information 
is spoken to exactly how you want it.

So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the space 
on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus one for 
battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really meant to focus 
on quick bits of information that sighted people can use the status menus or 
dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate access, and now we do too, 
plus we can fully customize the output. I make no promises that all the ideas I 
receive will make it, but if enough people ask for a certain feature, I'll try 
to add it in. I've thought about weather, but I really want to just distribute 
the scripts and not have any additional libraries or anything that you'd have 
to install. I'll look more into weather at some point. So, any small pieces of 
information you'd like to have one-key access to, let me know. thanks.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Alex,

Very cool. I would love something if possible to make using the widgets more 
accessible not sure if that is possible through scripts. Also for us dummies is 
there anywhere we can read up on starting out with scripts. I have never used 
any except the time one that you can use through keyboard commanders and would 
like to become more familiar with them. Thanks,
On May 24, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share what 
> I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together a series 
> of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is on or the 
> default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are CPU, ram, 
> wifi, and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each starts out by 
> setting up a template. You can change this template, using keywords to define 
> what is spoken where.
> 
> Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have the 
> date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set to:
> $24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
> which yields, right now:
> 22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
> Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
> $12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
> and you'd hear something like:
> 10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013
> 
> My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I know 
> which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of these 
> have templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the script's 
> information is spoken to exactly how you want it.
> 
> So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the 
> space on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus one 
> for battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really meant to 
> focus on quick bits of information that sighted people can use the status 
> menus or dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate access, and now 
> we do too, plus we can fully customize the output. I make no promises that 
> all the ideas I receive will make it, but if enough people ask for a certain 
> feature, I'll try to add it in. I've thought about weather, but I really want 
> to just distribute the scripts and not have any additional libraries or 
> anything that you'd have to install. I'll look more into weather at some 
> point. So, any small pieces of information you'd like to have one-key access 
> to, let me know. thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
Widgets wouldn't really enter into this - my intent is to replace status menu 
displays for things like wifi, system monitors, and so on with scripts. You can 
then assign these scripts to keyboard commanders or regular shortcuts and 
invoke them to hear the information. You don't need to know anything about how 
they actually work to use them; even modifying the template for each script is 
dead simple and will be explained in the readme file that will come with these 
scripts. If you do want to get into scripting, google is your best friend - 
there are dozens of primers, tutorials, and wikis on getting started with 
Applescript, plus plenty of scripts others freely share online that you can use.
On May 24, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Alex,
> 
> Very cool. I would love something if possible to make using the widgets more 
> accessible not sure if that is possible through scripts. Also for us dummies 
> is there anywhere we can read up on starting out with scripts. I have never 
> used any except the time one that you can use through keyboard commanders and 
> would like to become more familiar with them. Thanks,
> On May 24, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share 
>> what I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together a 
>> series of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is on or 
>> the default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are CPU, ram, 
>> wifi, and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each starts out by 
>> setting up a template. You can change this template, using keywords to 
>> define what is spoken where.
>> 
>> Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have 
>> the date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set to:
>> $24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
>> which yields, right now:
>> 22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
>> Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
>> $12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
>> and you'd hear something like:
>> 10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013
>> 
>> My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I know 
>> which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of these 
>> have templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the script's 
>> information is spoken to exactly how you want it.
>> 
>> So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the 
>> space on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus one 
>> for battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really meant to 
>> focus on quick bits of information that sighted people can use the status 
>> menus or dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate access, and now 
>> we do too, plus we can fully customize the output. I make no promises that 
>> all the ideas I receive will make it, but if enough people ask for a certain 
>> feature, I'll try to add it in. I've thought about weather, but I really 
>> want to just distribute the scripts and not have any additional libraries or 
>> anything that you'd have to install. I'll look more into weather at some 
>> point. So, any small pieces of information you'd like to have one-key access 
>> to, let me know. thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Chris Gilland
Alex, this is great!  Where would I obtain the scripts that you so far have 
done?  I'd like a script that would tell me if bluetooth was enabled or 
disabled, discoverable enabled or not enabled, and what devices if any are 
currently connected.


The other thing that would be, especially in my professional audio 
production environment to know is if you could have v o read the percentage 
value of the input volume slider under system prefs/sound/input tab.


This way, at any time, with one keystroke, I could know exactly what my mike 
level is set to on my input.


Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Fischler" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system 
status?



Hey Alex,

Very cool. I would love something if possible to make using the widgets more 
accessible not sure if that is possible through scripts. Also for us dummies 
is there anywhere we can read up on starting out with scripts. I have never 
used any except the time one that you can use through keyboard commanders 
and would like to become more familiar with them. Thanks,

On May 24, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share 
what I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together 
a series of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is 
on or the default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are 
CPU, ram, wifi, and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each 
starts out by setting up a template. You can change this template, using 
keywords to define what is spoken where.


Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have 
the date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set 
to:

$24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
which yields, right now:
22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
$12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
and you'd hear something like:
10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013

My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I 
know which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of 
these have templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the 
script's information is spoken to exactly how you want it.


So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the 
space on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus 
one for battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really 
meant to focus on quick bits of information that sighted people can use 
the status menus or dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate 
access, and now we do too, plus we can fully customize the output. I make 
no promises that all the ideas I receive will make it, but if enough 
people ask for a certain feature, I'll try to add it in. I've thought 
about weather, but I really want to just distribute the scripts and not 
have any additional libraries or anything that you'd have to install. I'll 
look more into weather at some point. So, any small pieces of information 
you'd like to have one-key access to, let me know. thanks.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



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Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
I'm going to send out a link to a zip file when I'm all done with everything - 
right now, though the four I have are working properly, I'd consider this to 
still be in alpha testing. It shouldn't be too long, though.

Bluetooth is one thing I considered, but had not looked into. I'll do that and 
see if it is possible. Volume is really simple, though - I'll make a script 
that gives you everything, and you can use the template to choose what you want 
to hear.
On May 24, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> Alex, this is great!  Where would I obtain the scripts that you so far have 
> done?  I'd like a script that would tell me if bluetooth was enabled or 
> disabled, discoverable enabled or not enabled, and what devices if any are 
> currently connected.
> 
> The other thing that would be, especially in my professional audio production 
> environment to know is if you could have v o read the percentage value of the 
> input volume slider under system prefs/sound/input tab.
> 
> This way, at any time, with one keystroke, I could know exactly what my mike 
> level is set to on my input.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?
> 
> 
> Hey Alex,
> 
> Very cool. I would love something if possible to make using the widgets more 
> accessible not sure if that is possible through scripts. Also for us dummies 
> is there anywhere we can read up on starting out with scripts. I have never 
> used any except the time one that you can use through keyboard commanders and 
> would like to become more familiar with them. Thanks,
> On May 24, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share 
>> what I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together a 
>> series of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is on or 
>> the default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are CPU, ram, 
>> wifi, and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each starts out by 
>> setting up a template. You can change this template, using keywords to 
>> define what is spoken where.
>> 
>> Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have 
>> the date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set to:
>> $24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
>> which yields, right now:
>> 22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
>> Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
>> $12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
>> and you'd hear something like:
>> 10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013
>> 
>> My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I know 
>> which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of these 
>> have templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the script's 
>> information is spoken to exactly how you want it.
>> 
>> So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the 
>> space on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus one 
>> for battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really meant to 
>> focus on quick bits of information that sighted people can use the status 
>> menus or dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate access, and now 
>> we do too, plus we can fully customize the output. I make no promises that 
>> all the ideas I receive will make it, but if enough people ask for a certain 
>> feature, I'll try to add it in. I've thought about weather, but I really 
>> want to just distribute the scripts and not have any additional libraries or 
>> anything that you'd have to install. I'll look more into weather at some 
>> point. So, any small pieces of information you'd like to have one-key access 
>> to, let me know. thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
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Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, I just typed that sound script up. You can access input volume, output 
volume, and alerts volume, all from 0 (muted) to 100 (max). you also have 
access to the "isMuted" keyword, but if sound is muted you won't hear the 
message anyway, so that wouldn't help. :) Did I miss anything? You can't set 
those values (that's really not the point of this set of scripts) but email me 
off-list if you want a script that lets you set those sound parameters.
On May 24, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> Alex, this is great!  Where would I obtain the scripts that you so far have 
> done?  I'd like a script that would tell me if bluetooth was enabled or 
> disabled, discoverable enabled or not enabled, and what devices if any are 
> currently connected.
> 
> The other thing that would be, especially in my professional audio production 
> environment to know is if you could have v o read the percentage value of the 
> input volume slider under system prefs/sound/input tab.
> 
> This way, at any time, with one keystroke, I could know exactly what my mike 
> level is set to on my input.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?
> 
> 
> Hey Alex,
> 
> Very cool. I would love something if possible to make using the widgets more 
> accessible not sure if that is possible through scripts. Also for us dummies 
> is there anywhere we can read up on starting out with scripts. I have never 
> used any except the time one that you can use through keyboard commanders and 
> would like to become more familiar with them. Thanks,
> On May 24, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share 
>> what I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together a 
>> series of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is on or 
>> the default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are CPU, ram, 
>> wifi, and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each starts out by 
>> setting up a template. You can change this template, using keywords to 
>> define what is spoken where.
>> 
>> Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have 
>> the date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set to:
>> $24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
>> which yields, right now:
>> 22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
>> Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
>> $12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
>> and you'd hear something like:
>> 10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013
>> 
>> My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I know 
>> which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of these 
>> have templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the script's 
>> information is spoken to exactly how you want it.
>> 
>> So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the 
>> space on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus one 
>> for battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really meant to 
>> focus on quick bits of information that sighted people can use the status 
>> menus or dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate access, and now 
>> we do too, plus we can fully customize the output. I make no promises that 
>> all the ideas I receive will make it, but if enough people ask for a certain 
>> feature, I'll try to add it in. I've thought about weather, but I really 
>> want to just distribute the scripts and not have any additional libraries or 
>> anything that you'd have to install. I'll look more into weather at some 
>> point. So, any small pieces of information you'd like to have one-key access 
>> to, let me know. thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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checking input sound

2013-05-24 Thread Devin Prater
Hello all. I don't know if I've asked this before, but is there a way to really 
make sure the microphone is working without recording anything? I have a 
headset mic, and don't know if it really works or not. Would this script alex 
is making work for that?

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Re: checking input sound

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
I don't have a usb sound device to test with, but I doubt it. Even if your 
input volume is set to 100%, there is no way for the mac to know if your 
microphone is functioning properly and feeding in the sound it is suposed to. 
It is just like having faulty speaker - the mac is sending the audio like it is 
supposed to, but if the speakers fail, the mac can't know that and will still 
think everything is normal. Why not just pop open a simple recording app 
9Audacity or even a monitoring app like Line in) and test things?
On May 25, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Hello all. I don't know if I've asked this before, but is there a way to 
> really make sure the microphone is working without recording anything? I have 
> a headset mic, and don't know if it really works or not. Would this script 
> alex is making work for that?
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Re: checking input sound

2013-05-24 Thread Devin Prater
Hmm, where can I get that line-in monitor thing?
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On May 24, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I don't have a usb sound device to test with, but I doubt it. Even if your 
> input volume is set to 100%, there is no way for the mac to know if your 
> microphone is functioning properly and feeding in the sound it is suposed to. 
> It is just like having faulty speaker - the mac is sending the audio like it 
> is supposed to, but if the speakers fail, the mac can't know that and will 
> still think everything is normal. Why not just pop open a simple recording 
> app 9Audacity or even a monitoring app like Line in) and test things?
> On May 25, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all. I don't know if I've asked this before, but is there a way to 
>> really make sure the microphone is working without recording anything? I 
>> have a headset mic, and don't know if it really works or not. Would this 
>> script alex is making work for that?
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Re: checking input sound

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Hall
I did a quick search, and this *should* be the right link:
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11333/linein
On May 25, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Hmm, where can I get that line-in monitor thing?
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
> Devin prater
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> 
> 
> On May 24, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I don't have a usb sound device to test with, but I doubt it. Even if your 
>> input volume is set to 100%, there is no way for the mac to know if your 
>> microphone is functioning properly and feeding in the sound it is suposed 
>> to. It is just like having faulty speaker - the mac is sending the audio 
>> like it is supposed to, but if the speakers fail, the mac can't know that 
>> and will still think everything is normal. Why not just pop open a simple 
>> recording app 9Audacity or even a monitoring app like Line in) and test 
>> things?
>> On May 25, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all. I don't know if I've asked this before, but is there a way to 
>>> really make sure the microphone is working without recording anything? I 
>>> have a headset mic, and don't know if it really works or not. Would this 
>>> script alex is making work for that?
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Re: checking input sound

2013-05-24 Thread Devin Prater
Ah, thank you. I'm getting it now. :)
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On May 24, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I did a quick search, and this *should* be the right link:
> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11333/linein
> On May 25, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, where can I get that line-in monitor thing?
>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>> Devin prater
>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> Skype:
>> devinprater
>> msn:
>> devinpra...@live.com
>> 
>> 
>> On May 24, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't have a usb sound device to test with, but I doubt it. Even if your 
>>> input volume is set to 100%, there is no way for the mac to know if your 
>>> microphone is functioning properly and feeding in the sound it is suposed 
>>> to. It is just like having faulty speaker - the mac is sending the audio 
>>> like it is supposed to, but if the speakers fail, the mac can't know that 
>>> and will still think everything is normal. Why not just pop open a simple 
>>> recording app 9Audacity or even a monitoring app like Line in) and test 
>>> things?
>>> On May 25, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all. I don't know if I've asked this before, but is there a way to 
 really make sure the microphone is working without recording anything? I 
 have a headset mic, and don't know if it really works or not. Would this 
 script alex is making work for that?
 
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Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system status?

2013-05-24 Thread Chris Gilland

No, I don't need it to set anything, mainly just to query.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system 
status?



Okay, I just typed that sound script up. You can access input volume, output 
volume, and alerts volume, all from 0 (muted) to 100 (max). you also have 
access to the "isMuted" keyword, but if sound is muted you won't hear the 
message anyway, so that wouldn't help. :) Did I miss anything? You can't set 
those values (that's really not the point of this set of scripts) but email 
me off-list if you want a script that lets you set those sound parameters.

On May 24, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

Alex, this is great!  Where would I obtain the scripts that you so far 
have done?  I'd like a script that would tell me if bluetooth was enabled 
or disabled, discoverable enabled or not enabled, and what devices if any 
are currently connected.


The other thing that would be, especially in my professional audio 
production environment to know is if you could have v o read the 
percentage value of the input volume slider under system prefs/sound/input 
tab.


This way, at any time, with one keystroke, I could know exactly what my 
mike level is set to on my input.


Chris.
- Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: What would you all like to see in scripts to speak system 
status?



Hey Alex,

Very cool. I would love something if possible to make using the widgets 
more accessible not sure if that is possible through scripts. Also for us 
dummies is there anywhere we can read up on starting out with scripts. I 
have never used any except the time one that you can use through keyboard 
commanders and would like to become more familiar with them. Thanks,

On May 24, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
Now that I have four of them consistently working, I feel ready to share 
what I've been working on for the last couple days. I am putting together 
a series of Apple scripts that will speak information, using VO if it is 
on or the default system speech if it is not. The ones I have so far are 
CPU, ram, wifi, and date/time. The really cool bit, though, is that each 
starts out by setting up a template. You can change this template, using 
keywords to define what is spoken where.


Let's look at the time script as an example, since everyone likes to have 
the date and time spoken differently. Right now, I have my template set 
to:

$24hours:$minutes, $weekday, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
which yields, right now:
22:55, Friday, May 24, 2013
Don't like 24 hour time? All you need to do is change your template:
$12hours:$minutes $ampm, $month $dayOfMonth, $year
and you'd hear something like:
10:56 PM, Friday, May 24, 2013

My other scripts do the same thing - one keystroke, for instance, and I 
know which wifi network I'm on and at what signal strength. Again, all of 
these have templates with certain keywords, so you can change how the 
script's information is spoken to exactly how you want it.


So, my question: what else would you all like to see? I plan one for the 
space on the startup disk, and probably all other attached volumes, plus 
one for battery, but what else would be handy? These scripts are really 
meant to focus on quick bits of information that sighted people can use 
the status menus or dashboard to quickly look at - they have immediate 
access, and now we do too, plus we can fully customize the output. I make 
no promises that all the ideas I receive will make it, but if enough 
people ask for a certain feature, I'll try to add it in. I've thought 
about weather, but I really want to just distribute the scripts and not 
have any additional libraries or anything that you'd have to install. 
I'll look more into weather at some point. So, any small pieces of 
information you'd like to have one-key access to, let me know. thanks.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



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