Re: Spanish Ñ was Special Characters Question: Math Symbols

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Iona,

You have to press the N twice, e.g. Option-n, followed by another N.
Best,
Donna
On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On as somewhat related note, is there an easy way to insert the Spanish Ñ in 
> a document? I tried pressing option in but it didn't work. I would like to 
> avoid having to add the Spanish keyboard layout for just one isolated 
> incident.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2012-12-09, at 1:11 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you. I'll give this a whirl.
>> Christine
>> On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I find it easier just to figure them out myself.  They're fairly logical 
>>> actually and you can determine them in TextEdit or in any text area within 
>>> any app.  The Option key is your modifier for this.  In the text area, 
>>> simply hold down the Option key then press a key to determine it's special 
>>> character.  Here's some common ones for you:
>>> 
>>> Option-Less than gives Less than or equal to
>>> Option Greater than gives Greater than or equal to
>>> Option v gives Square Root
>>> Option Zero gives Degrees sign.
>>> Option p gives pi (π)
>>> Option equals gives Not equals
>>> Option 4 gives the cent sign.  4 is used for the $ sign so your logical 
>>> determination is that the ¢ is also attached.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-12-09, at 10:20 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I have tried everything which appears patently obvious to find a list of 
 math symbols: I have gone into Text Edit's edit menu, (every edit menu on 
 the Mac I could find, in fact) and tried to select "special characters" 
 but nothing happens. Interacting with any tool bars does not help.
 I located information at discuss.apple.com which directed me to the 
 systems preferences, to language and text, to input source, to keyboard 
 and character viewer, which I checked. I am told to go to "show" in my 
 menu bar, but such does not appear to exist. What am I doing wrong? Thanks 
 for any help.
 Christine
 
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RE: should I unauthorize my iTunes account

[Martin Brown]

Thanks' once again to all those who have taken the time to answer my
question.
Martin 

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Subject: Re: should I unauthorize my iTunes account

I'm not sure what this is based on, if it's hardware of software specific. I
prefer to deauthorize the computer and authorize it again after the install,
this certainly won't hurt anything.
On Dec 9, 2012, at 10:59 AM, "Martin Brown" 
wrote:

> Hello everyone again.
> I am giving serious consideration to doing a clean install of Mountain 
> Lion. I am wondering if it would be best or even necessary to unauthorize
my iTunes account before starting the process.
> Martin
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Re: Where do photos go in iPhoto?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It more or less depends on how you performed the import, although, in all cases 
the photos will reside in the Photos area of the Sources List.  Depending on 
how you have those photos sorted though, you may have difficulties finding 
them.  I have that area sorted by date so that the newest ones appear at the 
end of the Content area.

• When imported from a camera or photos that come in from PhotoStream will be 
in the Photos area, the Last Import area, the Last 12 Months area and most 
likely in some sort of Event.  They could also be in an Album if you had that 
album selected when you performed the import.

• If you copied and pasted, then they will be in the Photos area as well as 
wherever you pasted them.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-09, at 9:52 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hello all, when you import photos from a camera using iPhoto where are they 
> put? 
> Thank you for any help. 
> Max.
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Re: Tax web sites

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Dan
So far as I can see right now, it works great with VoiceOver on the iPhone. I'm 
thinking about trying it when I put in data. I don't know yet because I have 
discovered that using the paste phrase option on the Mac is a great thing too. 
I have been using it lately to paste in numbers into Numbers. If you tell VO to 
stop talking fast enough, then you can just paste the number into there without 
extra phrasing. 

On Dec 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Dan Roy  wrote:
> I wasn't aware that taxact had If  ca app for the iPhone, will investigate 
> this.
> 
> 
> On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:57 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dan
>> Thanks for the information. I also downloadedi the app for the iPhone, and 
>> got myself registered owner. I had no trouble with the iPhone app at all, 
>> and I was really surprised that the App Store listed it only with two stars. 
>>  I think it needs to have more than that.
>> Regards
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Dan Roy  wrote:
>> 
>>> Electronic filing works just fine. At the end of your return, it will run 
>>> through some checks to make sure everything is ready for electronic filing, 
>>> then,it will happen.  Just follow the insructions, you should do just fine.
>>> 
>>> TaxAct does, I believe have downloadable software which you can use 
>>> offline, however, using the web site version is cheaper and fully 
>>> accessible.  Now, hopefully, they won't throw something in to mess up the 
>>> 2012 returns, but, I don't expect that will happen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there
 I have no idea. I thought tax act was a website and not a program of any 
 kind. You know, electronic filing. That's kind of what I was asking, about 
 the accessibility of this.
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
 
> I used to use TaxAct and found it quite accessible.  Is there a version 
> for the Mac?
> 
> Les
> On Dec 6, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Gigi. I have ben using Tax Act for several years. There are two 
>> ways to prepare a tax return. One way is for people who want to get 
>> straight to the forms. I didn’t find this approach accessible. However, 
>> Taxact also takes you through a Question and Answer process. This 
>> process is accessible and editable. Yes, you can start your return, sign 
>> out and continue later. You can file electronically and don’t need to 
>> submit any paper documents at all. Noone physically has to sign 
>> anything, it’s all done through electronic PINS. You never touch the 
>> forms. However, you can print your return and you get the completed 
>> forms on paper and in .pdf documents. I haven’t tried the Schedule C yet 
>> but I don’t expect any issues. Depending on the complexity of your 
>> return, you may have to get the paid version. I’ll cross that bridge 
>> when I file my return.
>>  
>> I’ll let you know how it goes.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:54 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Tax web sites
>>  
>> Hi guys. 
>> I know it's a bit early on this, but I have a Schedule C to file again 
>> this year, which means it takes time etc. to do one. Here's my question 
>> for you guys. Someone on this list said that they had used taxact.com 
>> for their taxes.I went to the web site, and it seemed to work fine with 
>> Safari. However, I didn't try any of the forms that they listed. If you 
>> use this web site, does anyone know if you get trapped in PDF form files 
>> or can you use Safari for the whole thing? Also, can you input 
>> information, save it out, and then finish the process later? If you can, 
>> can you edit information if you fine you put it in wrong information? 
>>  
>>  
>> I'm asking you guys because I don't want to start the process, only to 
>> fine myself needing to deal with some inaccessible pdf file. It's 
>> frustrating as all get out for my husband and I to work together on 
>> this. It's easier if I can give him the finished thing to sign. 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>>  
>> Eugenia Firth
>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>  
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Re: Bootcamp

[matthew Dyer]

Hi Chris,  Just wondering if it is possible to set up vinux in boot camp.  Just 
a thought.  I ofcorse would have to burn the iso image to a cd, but then again. 
 

Matthew


On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Chris H wrote:

> Hello all
> Well I managed to do it, get Windows 7 installed and working properly via 
> Bootcamp. My thoughts are very good so far! But lol! No where can I adjust 
> the brightness, even though I have the latest Bootcamp Support software as of 
> yesterday, the 8th of December! Lol!
> So goodness knows how bright my screen is now.
> Reason I'm saying this is the lower the brightness the longer the battery 
> life.
> But yes, Bootcamp is very good and think I actually prefer it over Fusion, 
> just so I can avoid the key remapping issues.
> The guide I posted worked a treat at my end, from start to finish.
> Anyway, may e-mail you from my Bootcap partition at some point. Haven't set 
> up the internet yet as just seeing what I can and can't do. Brightness 
> appears to be the only issue so far, along with a limited set of Power 
> Management features.
> Keep you posted.
> Chris.
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Re: Bootcamp

[Chris H]

I can't see why but Apple themselves do not support installing and 
configuring Linux under Bootcamp; only Windows and even then only 
Windows 7 is officially supported by Apple.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 10/12/2012 16:07, matthew Dyer wrote:

Hi Chris,  Just wondering if it is possible to set up vinux in boot camp.  Just 
a thought.  I ofcorse would have to burn the iso image to a cd, but then again.

Matthew


On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Chris H wrote:


Hello all
Well I managed to do it, get Windows 7 installed and working properly via 
Bootcamp. My thoughts are very good so far! But lol! No where can I adjust the 
brightness, even though I have the latest Bootcamp Support software as of 
yesterday, the 8th of December! Lol!
So goodness knows how bright my screen is now.
Reason I'm saying this is the lower the brightness the longer the battery life.
But yes, Bootcamp is very good and think I actually prefer it over Fusion, just 
so I can avoid the key remapping issues.
The guide I posted worked a treat at my end, from start to finish.
Anyway, may e-mail you from my Bootcap partition at some point. Haven't set up 
the internet yet as just seeing what I can and can't do. Brightness appears to 
be the only issue so far, along with a limited set of Power Management features.
Keep you posted.
Chris.
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Re: iTunes Library location?

[BlindMacMan]

Hello Tim... First off, thank you for all your assistance over the years in 
this forum! Question: Instead of step 3, couldn't you just drop everything 
onto the "Automatically Add to Itunes" folder? Wouldn't that take care of 
everything (except for maybe step 4 which should probably be done before 
step 3)? Or, am I missing something here? I am interested in this because I 
can see this being a To Do" item for me in 2013. Thanks for your sage 
advice! Lou (Blind Mac Man). 


On Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:49:10 AM UTC-8, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Four drives not including the internal one on my iMac.
>
> You should create the Library first then move the media into the new 
> iTunes Library location.
>
> 1.  Hold down the Option key while starting iTunes.  This will force 
> iTunes to bring up a Library chooser dialog.
> 2.  Select "Create New Library" and tell iTunes to place the new Library 
> on your external HD.  This will create an iTunes folder on the external 
> with all the necessary folder locations and database files.
> 3.  Move your media into the iTunes Media folder that was created from 
> step #2.
> 4.  In iTunes, press cmd-comma to bring up the iTunes Preferences.  In the 
> Advanced pane, make sure that both the Keep iTunes Media folder organized 
> and Copy items to the iTunes Media folder items are checked.
> 5.  In iTunes, press cmd-o to Add files.
> 6.  In the dialog, navigate to the iTunes Media folder within the iTunes 
> folder on the external HD then press return.
>
> iTunes will get busy re-organizing all your media into appropriate folders 
> and will add all tags into it's Database.  this could take a while since 
> you have such a large collection of media.  Just be patient and let it do 
> its thing.  You may need to fix a few things after iTunes has completed its 
> task depending on how well and accurate your media was tagged.  Overall, 
> it's not a difficult thing, just may take some time.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On 2012-12-08, at 7:27 PM, Kliphton > 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, 10TB?  How many drives was that?  I want to go about this the second 
> way, I just want to make sure I put the media there properly.  So do I move 
> the library and then drop the media in there?  Or do I just delete the 
> directory, redirect the source, and let iTunes do the rest?  Thanks for 
> your informative answer.  My main point for doing this is so my iTunes 
> library is ready when my apple TV arrives.  This is the only device missing 
> from my Apple collection.
>  
> *From:* macvisi...@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@
> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Kilburn
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:40 PM
> *To:* macvisi...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: iTunes Library location?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> There's two ways of approaching this.
>  
> First is to leave the media where it is and let iTunes simply mark where 
> everything is in its Library Database file.  In theory, this could be 
> accomplished by first going to iTunes Prefs in the Advanced pane and 
> unchecking the box that tells iTunes to Copy items to the iTunes Media 
> folder.  Next, you would go under the File menu and choose "Add to Library" 
> (cmd-o), navigate to the external HD where all your media is, then pressing 
> the Open button on the parent directory of all the media on that drive. 
>  The only issue with this method is that I seem to recall that iTunes does 
> not always pay attention to that preference when your importing from 
> external HDs.  If it works as this plan suggests though, you'd have 
> everything accessible to iTunes and all your devices with only the Database 
> file residing on the Mac's internal HD.
>  
> In the second option, you'll need to create either a new iTunes Library on 
> that external HD or move your existing iTunes folder over to that external 
> HD.  In this case, when you add the media to iTunes, it will copy 
> everything into the iTunes folder and place them all into the proper 
> locations that iTunes needs in order to work properly and properly share 
> with the Apple TV and other iDevices.  This is the method that I use 
> myself.  The only problem could be that iTunes will try to copy all your 
> media into the new iTunes media location.  If you have enough space on your 
> external HD to handle multiple copies of the media during this Library 
> creation process, then you'll be OK.  If you do not, you will need to be 
> creative with where you put media prior to this process so that only one 
> copy of the files are on your external HD.  I did this myself by making 
> sure that the drive was first empty then created an iTunes Library folder 
> onto it. I then spent time placing portions of my media on other drives, 
> essentially dividing it up prior to iTunes building the Library.  Then when 
> I added the media to iTunes, it copied items to the new iTunes Library 
> location and placed everything where iTunes needed it to 

repost with corrected subject Re: Question about new iTunes and manually adding content to iPhone

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello,

I asked this earlier but with wrong subject. So here we go again in hopes to 
find some answer.
I used to be able to select tracks in library and paste them in the iphone 
music sourse list. I cannot make this work in latest itunes.

Thanks for any help.

Best,

Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Special Characters Question: Math Symbols

[Chris Blouch]

Some more listed here:

http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/codemac.html#math

CB

On 12/9/12 1:07 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I find it easier just to figure them out myself.  They're fairly 
logical actually and you can determine them in TextEdit or in any text 
area within any app.  The Option key is your modifier for this.  In 
the text area, simply hold down the Option key then press a key to 
determine it's special character.  Here's some common ones for you:


Option-Less than gives Less than or equal to
Option Greater than gives Greater than or equal to
Option v gives Square Root
Option Zero gives Degrees sign.
Option p gives pi (π)
Option equals gives Not equals
Option 4 gives the cent sign.  4 is used for the $ sign so your 
logical determination is that the ¢ is also attached.


HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-09, at 10:20 AM, Christine Grassman 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have tried everything which appears patently obvious to find a list 
of math symbols: I have gone into Text Edit's edit menu, (every edit 
menu on the Mac I could find, in fact) and tried to select "special 
characters" but nothing happens. Interacting with any tool bars does 
not help.
I located information at discuss.apple.com  
which directed me to the systems preferences, to language and text, 
to input source, to keyboard and character viewer, which I checked. I 
am told to go to "show" in my menu bar, but such does not appear to 
exist. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.

Christine

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RE: Accessible wifi scanner

[Aman Singer]

Hi.
I assume you mean a document scanner which works over wifi. If you
want some sort of device for scanning your area for Wireless networks, this
message isn't for you, there is software to do that, and the software
solutions are, for less extensive applications,  at least, actually better
than thehardware units.
As for scanners, I have used the Samsung 4623FW scan/printer, and it
may be configured over the network. That is, one must connect the device to
the network via a cable, visit the configuration web page, and enter the
necessary details for the wireless network. When one reboots the scanner,
disconnecting it from the Ethernet cable, the scanner will connect to the
wireless network and all should be well. I also know that many scan/print
units have their own software which will allow you to configure by USB, but
the accessibility of that particular software is up in the air, web-based
configuration is generally more accessible. Personally, I'd buy on a return
policy.
I hope that's of use.
Aman


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible wifi scanner

Does anybody know if there's a wifi-enabled scanner somewhere that is
accessible for setting up the wifi connection or that can be controlled for
this by software on the computer? I imagine that if one has to have sighted
help to set up the wifi connection, it should be able to continue connecting
without assistance but I'd really like to be able to set this up and manage
it without sighted help.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)




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Re: Bootcamp

[Mike Arrigo]

This is true, however, they also do not deliberately prevent you from 
installing other operating systems. Once you create the second 
partition, you can install whatever you want. The firmware on the mac 
does provide basic bios emulation for operating systems that require it.

Original message:

I can't see why but Apple themselves do not support installing and
configuring Linux under Bootcamp; only Windows and even then only
Windows 7 is officially supported by Apple.




Christopher Hallsworth



On 10/12/2012 16:07, matthew Dyer wrote:
Hi Chris,  Just wondering if it is possible to set up vinux in boot 
camp.  Just a thought.  I ofcorse would have to burn the iso image to a 
cd, but then again.



Matthew




On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Chris H wrote:



Hello all
Well I managed to do it, get Windows 7 installed and working properly 
via Bootcamp. My thoughts are very good so far! But lol! No where can I 
adjust the brightness, even though I have the latest Bootcamp Support 
software as of yesterday, the 8th of December! Lol!

So goodness knows how bright my screen is now.
Reason I'm saying this is the lower the brightness the longer the battery life.
But yes, Bootcamp is very good and think I actually prefer it over 
Fusion, just so I can avoid the key remapping issues.

The guide I posted worked a treat at my end, from start to finish.
Anyway, may e-mail you from my Bootcap partition at some point. Haven't 
set up the internet yet as just seeing what I can and can't do. 
Brightness appears to be the only issue so far, along with a limited 
set of Power Management features.

Keep you posted.
Chris.
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Re: iTunes Library location?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Lou,

Thanks for this suggestion.  I had never really taken the time to investigate 
the use of that folder until you mentioned it.  You are totally correct and if 
one was to use that method, it would be even easier than I had originally 
outlined.  You are also correct in saying that my original #4 should have been 
done before the original #3, I was just in too much of a hurry, I guess, to do 
a good job of proofing my response.  The following steps could be better used 
instead:

> 1.  Hold down the Option key while starting iTunes.  This will force iTunes 
> to bring up a Library chooser dialog.
> 2.  Select "Create New Library" and tell iTunes to place the new Library on 
> your external HD.  This will create an iTunes folder on the external with all 
> the necessary folder locations and database files.
> 3.  In iTunes, press cmd-comma to bring up the iTunes Preferences.  In the 
> Advanced pane, make sure that both the Keep iTunes Media folder organized and 
> Copy items to the iTunes Media folder items are checked.  This should ensure 
> proper placement of the media.
> 4.  In the Finder, move your entire media collection into the "Automatically 
> Add to iTunes" folder.  Note that I say "move" instead of "copy".  This will 
> ensure that you do not run out of space if iTunes started duplicating the 
> media.  Also note that there is no need to pre-organize any of the media as 
> iTunes will figure everything out for itself and place the media in the 
> appropriate folders and iTunes Library locations.

This can be accomplished even when iTunes is running as it will notice items 
placed in that folder and start the process right away.  If iTunes is not 
running, it will start the organization process upon iTunes next start.  
Remember to be patient depending on the size of your media Library and realize 
that proper organization will partially depend on the accuracy of the original 
tags.

Thanks again Lou for your insight.

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-10, at 11:09 AM, BlindMacMan  wrote:

> Hello Tim... First off, thank you for all your assistance over the years in 
> this forum! Question: Instead of step 3, couldn't you just drop everything 
> onto the "Automatically Add to Itunes" folder? Wouldn't that take care of 
> everything (except for maybe step 4 which should probably be done before step 
> 3)? Or, am I missing something here? I am interested in this because I can 
> see this being a To Do" item for me in 2013. Thanks for your sage advice! Lou 
> (Blind Mac Man). 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:49:10 AM UTC-8, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Four drives not including the internal one on my iMac.
> 
> You should create the Library first then move the media into the new iTunes 
> Library location.
> 
> 1.  Hold down the Option key while starting iTunes.  This will force iTunes 
> to bring up a Library chooser dialog.
> 2.  Select "Create New Library" and tell iTunes to place the new Library on 
> your external HD.  This will create an iTunes folder on the external with all 
> the necessary folder locations and database files.
> 3.  Move your media into the iTunes Media folder that was created from step 
> #2.
> 4.  In iTunes, press cmd-comma to bring up the iTunes Preferences.  In the 
> Advanced pane, make sure that both the Keep iTunes Media folder organized and 
> Copy items to the iTunes Media folder items are checked.
> 5.  In iTunes, press cmd-o to Add files.
> 6.  In the dialog, navigate to the iTunes Media folder within the iTunes 
> folder on the external HD then press return.
> 
> iTunes will get busy re-organizing all your media into appropriate folders 
> and will add all tags into it's Database.  this could take a while since you 
> have such a large collection of media.  Just be patient and let it do its 
> thing.  You may need to fix a few things after iTunes has completed its task 
> depending on how well and accurate your media was tagged.  Overall, it's not 
> a difficult thing, just may take some time.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-08, at 7:27 PM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, 10TB?  How many drives was that?  I want to go about this the second 
>> way, I just want to make sure I put the media there properly.  So do I move 
>> the library and then drop the media in there?  Or do I just delete the 
>> directory, redirect the source, and let iTunes do the rest?  Thanks for your 
>> informative answer.  My main point for doing this is so my iTunes library is 
>> ready when my apple TV arrives.  This is the only device missing from my 
>> Apple collection.
>>  
>> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:40 PM
>> To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iTunes Library location?
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> There's two ways of approaching this.
>>  
>> First is to leave the media where it is and let iTunes si

itunes 11 goes Busy and doesn't respond when I go to search in the library anyone know what the problem is?

[trahern culver]

hey all in the new iTunes 11 when I go to search for  music in the
library iTunes sais  not responding and goes   this happens everytime
I go to use the new itunes!! does any one know what the problem is?

Your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
trahern.busy

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Re: Where do photos go in iPhoto?

[Agent086b]

Thanks Tim. I imported the photos directly from the camera. I can find them in 
iPhoto but I want to copy them to my wife's computers I would like to find the 
folder where iPhoto puts them.
Thanks for any further help.
Max.
On 11/12/2012, at 1:17 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It more or less depends on how you performed the import, although, in all 
> cases the photos will reside in the Photos area of the Sources List.  
> Depending on how you have those photos sorted though, you may have 
> difficulties finding them.  I have that area sorted by date so that the 
> newest ones appear at the end of the Content area.
> 
> • When imported from a camera or photos that come in from PhotoStream will be 
> in the Photos area, the Last Import area, the Last 12 Months area and most 
> likely in some sort of Event.  They could also be in an Album if you had that 
> album selected when you performed the import.
> 
> • If you copied and pasted, then they will be in the Photos area as well as 
> wherever you pasted them.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-09, at 9:52 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all, when you import photos from a camera using iPhoto where are they 
>> put? 
>> Thank you for any help. 
>> Max.
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apple TV?

[Kliphton]

What version of apple TV Is the latest?  I was on amazon, and thought it was
v2, but the search brought up something with v3.  So witch is right, 2 or 3?

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RE: apple TV?

[Daniel Miller]

Third generation is the latest. There's no difference from a Voiceover or
physical design perspective, however, the only thing the latest one can do
is play 1080P content.

 

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What version of apple TV Is the latest?  I was on amazon, and thought it was
v2, but the search brought up something with v3.  So witch is right, 2 or 3?

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Re: apple TV?

[Chris Bruinenberg]

It is the third generation. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> v2, but the search brought up something with v3.  So witch is right, 2 or 3?
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figured out manually adding music to iPhone in iTunes 11

[Ioana Gandrabur]

HI all,

For anyone interested here is how to manually add content to iphone in itunes 
11.

Enable side bar with command option s. YOu have to do this at beginning 
otherwise it does not work.

1. go to music library and find songs you want to add to iphone.
2.  Select them with either contiguous or non-contiguous method and press 
command c to copy.
3. Go back to sources and select your i device.
4. Finally  press paste.

hth,

Ioana
Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

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Re: Where do photos go in iPhoto?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The iPhoto Library is packaged up so that the photos, modified photos, 
thumb-nails and such are all kept hidden within the Library package.  It is 
possible to show the package contents but not necessarily that easy to find the 
exact photos you're looking for.

If you wish to copy photos over to somewhere else, you can select the photos 
from iPhoto, then do one of two things:

1.  Drag them from the iPhoto window into a folder on your Desktop then copy 
that folder over to your wife's computer.  The difficulty with this method is 
the inconsistent nature of Drag and Drop behaviour in VO.  I've done it a time 
or two but haven't had a reliable workaround for every time.

or...

2.  Select the photos you want then go under the File menu and choose Export.  
Make sure that you choose the proper format for the exported photos from the 
pop-up menu.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-10, at 1:41 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I imported the photos directly from the camera. I can find them 
> in iPhoto but I want to copy them to my wife's computers I would like to find 
> the folder where iPhoto puts them.
> Thanks for any further help.
> Max.
> On 11/12/2012, at 1:17 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It more or less depends on how you performed the import, although, in all 
>> cases the photos will reside in the Photos area of the Sources List.  
>> Depending on how you have those photos sorted though, you may have 
>> difficulties finding them.  I have that area sorted by date so that the 
>> newest ones appear at the end of the Content area.
>> 
>> • When imported from a camera or photos that come in from PhotoStream will 
>> be in the Photos area, the Last Import area, the Last 12 Months area and 
>> most likely in some sort of Event.  They could also be in an Album if you 
>> had that album selected when you performed the import.
>> 
>> • If you copied and pasted, then they will be in the Photos area as well as 
>> wherever you pasted them.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-12-09, at 9:52 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all, when you import photos from a camera using iPhoto where are they 
>>> put? 
>>> Thank you for any help. 
>>> Max.
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time capsule, usb external drive and ehternet connected drive to router options

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I hope this is not too far out of topic subject. I'm experiencing problems with 
my time capsule and the need to backup from two different mac computers. The 
difficulties are as follows:
I have a first generation time capsule with 500 GB hard drive. I also have two 
mac computers but they are run by two different users: i.e. myself and another 
user on a separate mac computer. 

Because my time capsule has only a 500 GB hard drive, I decided to buy an 
external usb hard drive which I have connected to the time capsule by the usb 
port available. My thinking behind was that I would back up one computer to the 
time capsule hard drive, and the other to the external usb hard drive connected 
to the usb port of the time capsule. 

It all seemed to be logical. I researched it - so I thought - but the trouble 
is that every couple of days, my backups stop and the other users backups stop 
because time machine fails to find the disks. So there is obviously a problem 
which I have spent hours to resolve, and I'm frankly fed up now. I would 
reselect the appropriate drives to which backup, I would do it repeatedly, and 
it would be fine for a bit but then again the same thing happens. 

I do not know what to do next. So I'm about to conclude that the solution with 
the usb attached external drive is not gonna work. Maybe my first generation 
time capsule is too old and can't cope with the 1 TB external usb drive 
attached to it, or else time machine doesn't seem to know which disk to choose. 

I was wondering then, unless there's something I'm doing wrong, whether to find 
a solution so that I would attach my usb external drive via an ethernet adaptor 
to the router itself or to the ethernet port of the time capsule rather than 
the usb port on the capsule? 

My question is, therefore, do you think it is possible? Can one attach a usb 
external drive to an ethernet port on time capsule or router? Is there an 
external hard drive that would have an ethernet connection that would enable me 
to attach it to the router or time capsule and that would be recognised by my 
mac computers?

Another concern I have is that I have failed to configure the two mac computers 
correctly to use the right disks in the setup. 

I'd welcome any suggestions. Please write off list if this is a topic too far 
here.

With many thanks.

Andrew

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Re: time capsule, usb external drive and ehternet connected drive to router options

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Andrew,

A couple of things come to mind.  I used to have a 1st Gen TC before it 
cratered.  There was a common issue with those units where they kind of 
overheated, affecting some chips on the logic board,  then they'd lose 
connectivity either to the HD or with the actual networking hardware.  This 
could be happening to your unit thus causing the intermittent problems.  If 
you've given each of the HDs, both the internal TC HD and the USB connected HD 
different names and have instructed each computer to backup to the specific HD, 
then you shouldn't experience issues that way either.

Most network storage devices I've seen, at least in Canada here, aren't 
particularly cheap.  You may find that connecting a network storage device to 
your TC to be more expensive than simply purchasing a newer, faster TC or 
Airport Extreme and connecting your existing external 1 TB HD.

One way to test things is to disconnect your external HD for a few days.  The 
computer that backs up to the internal HD of the TC will continue to back up 
fine and if there's an overheating issue, it will persist.  After your test 
period, reconnect the USB HD to the TC and see what happens.  This should 
isolate things a little so you can determine where the problem may lie.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-10, at 5:06 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
> I hope this is not too far out of topic subject. I'm experiencing problems 
> with my time capsule and the need to backup from two different mac computers. 
> The difficulties are as follows:
> I have a first generation time capsule with 500 GB hard drive. I also have 
> two mac computers but they are run by two different users: i.e. myself and 
> another user on a separate mac computer. 
> 
> Because my time capsule has only a 500 GB hard drive, I decided to buy an 
> external usb hard drive which I have connected to the time capsule by the usb 
> port available. My thinking behind was that I would back up one computer to 
> the time capsule hard drive, and the other to the external usb hard drive 
> connected to the usb port of the time capsule. 
> 
> It all seemed to be logical. I researched it - so I thought - but the trouble 
> is that every couple of days, my backups stop and the other users backups 
> stop because time machine fails to find the disks. So there is obviously a 
> problem which I have spent hours to resolve, and I'm frankly fed up now. I 
> would reselect the appropriate drives to which backup, I would do it 
> repeatedly, and it would be fine for a bit but then again the same thing 
> happens. 
> 
> I do not know what to do next. So I'm about to conclude that the solution 
> with the usb attached external drive is not gonna work. Maybe my first 
> generation time capsule is too old and can't cope with the 1 TB external usb 
> drive attached to it, or else time machine doesn't seem to know which disk to 
> choose. 
> 
> I was wondering then, unless there's something I'm doing wrong, whether to 
> find a solution so that I would attach my usb external drive via an ethernet 
> adaptor to the router itself or to the ethernet port of the time capsule 
> rather than the usb port on the capsule? 
> 
> My question is, therefore, do you think it is possible? Can one attach a usb 
> external drive to an ethernet port on time capsule or router? Is there an 
> external hard drive that would have an ethernet connection that would enable 
> me to attach it to the router or time capsule and that would be recognised by 
> my mac computers?
> 
> Another concern I have is that I have failed to configure the two mac 
> computers correctly to use the right disks in the setup. 
> 
> I'd welcome any suggestions. Please write off list if this is a topic too far 
> here.
> 
> With many thanks.
> 
> Andrew
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Putting Icons on iPhone 3GS Home Screen

[Harry Hogue]

Hi guys,

I am interested to know how I can go about putting icons on my home screen from 
other pages in the phone.  Specifically, I am interested in putting the compass 
on my home screen (it is currently in the utilities folder on page 2), and I 
would also like to put the timer and alarm clock on my home screen as separate 
icons, if that is even possible.  They are all currently under "Clock."

Thanks for any help.  I really appreciate it.

Harry

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Re: apple TV?

[Jessica Moss]

What's 1080p content?  I'm looking at getting one down the road, and would love 
any info anyone can give me.  I listened to one of the podcasts on 
blindcooltech about it, and it sounds amazing, but don't know if there's 
anything different between that model, and the new one that's out now, so if 
anyone has something they'd like to share, I'd love to hear it.
On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Kliphton wrote:

> What version of apple TV Is the latest?  I was on amazon, and thought it was 
> v2, but the search brought up something with v3.  So witch is right, 2 or 3?
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please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?

[trahern culver]

hey all please can some one recommend an accessable itunes alternative
that will let me manage my current iTunes libary ipod and iPhone?

your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
trahern.

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Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?

[Phil Halton]

In my opinion, and this is my opinion only, you may as well dig in and learn 
iTunes because there is nothing to compare to it. And, it is really quite 
easy to use with almost total accessibility.


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Subject: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes 
that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?




hey all please can some one recommend an accessable itunes alternative
that will let me manage my current iTunes libary ipod and iPhone?

your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
trahern.

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Hard drive failure

[Kristeen Hughes]

To Mike and anyone else who remembers that I had a problem with one of my 
minis, I now know what it is. I took it into the Apple store today in the hard 
drive has failed. So I spent a lot of time trying to figure out the problem, 
but I wouldn't have been able to do that. It took it about three weeks to 
actually fail. The guy at the store says sometimes that happens. I'm just very 
fortunate that it is still under warrantee, because that is and expense I can't 
afford right now.

Anyway thank you to those who try to assist me during my many questions.

Kristeen

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Another question but probably an easier one

[Kristeen Hughes]

I want to perform a search on one of my external hard drives through spotlight. 
Is there anyway to do this, or do I have to search the whole Mac even though 
the files I want are on that external drive?

Thanks.

Kristeen

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Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There are accessible alternatives for managing your music and other media on 
the Mac such as VLC, but I'm pretty sure that you won't find much that will 
allow for the syncing that iTunes does between Apple devices.  You may be able 
to play purchased iTunes Music with other players but I don't believe that you 
can use other players to play iTunes movie or television content.

I'm not 100% positive of this but pretty sure.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-10, at 6:52 PM, trahern culver  wrote:

> hey all please can some one recommend an accessable itunes alternative
> that will let me manage my current iTunes libary ipod and iPhone?
> 
> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
> trahern.
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Re: Another question but probably an easier one

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The best way to do this, in my opinion, would be to open the external HD, 
Interact with the Toolbar within the open window, navigate over to the Search 
field then enter your search text.  When you do things this way, the results 
will be limited to the items within the open window.  So, in this case, it will 
only look within that HD.  If you wish to narrow them further,, simply open the 
folder where you wish to look for the given search criteria then follow the 
same process.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-10, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> I want to perform a search on one of my external hard drives through 
> spotlight. Is there anyway to do this, or do I have to search the whole Mac 
> even though the files I want are on that external drive?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: Putting Icons on iPhone 3GS Home Screen

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Harry,

Placing the Compass and Clock on the Home screen is entirely possible but 
separating the Timer and such out of the Clock is not.  The Alarm, Stop-Watch 
and Timer are all built-in to the Clock app and thus cannot be pulled out.

To move items out of the Utilities folder, double-tap and hold on the item 
until VO says moving said item.  Don't let go then drag your finger towards any 
edge of the screen, usually I go left or upper left.  Vo will say something 
like "Moving outside folder,", just lift your finger at that point and it will 
be taken out of the folder.  Press your Home button once to take it out of Edit 
mode.

You can press it again to close the folder then use the same process to move it 
to wherever you wish on the Home screen.  Be careful not to drop it in another 
folder or on another item.  If it's dropped on another item, a new folder will 
be created.  If you move to the right spot, VO will announce the Row and Column 
and you simply lift your finger to drop it there.  Items after the place that 
you drop it will be pushed out of the way.  Also, note that if your page is 
already full, items can be pushed to the next page.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-10, at 6:26 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I am interested to know how I can go about putting icons on my home screen 
> from other pages in the phone.  Specifically, I am interested in putting the 
> compass on my home screen (it is currently in the utilities folder on page 
> 2), and I would also like to put the timer and alarm clock on my home screen 
> as separate icons, if that is even possible.  They are all currently under 
> "Clock."
> 
> Thanks for any help.  I really appreciate it.
> 
> Harry
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Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?

[Mauricio Almeida]

i don't understand wh in the world would someone use second best over best in 
terms of accessibility, usability and compatibility, honestly.
On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:17 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> In my opinion, and this is my opinion only, you may as well dig in and learn 
> iTunes because there is nothing to compare to it. And, it is really quite 
> easy to use with almost total accessibility.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "trahern culver" 
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> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 8:52 PM
> Subject: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes 
> that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?
> 
> 
>> hey all please can some one recommend an accessable itunes alternative
>> that will let me manage my current iTunes libary ipod and iPhone?
>> 
>> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>> trahern.
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random skype issue with windows under bootcamp

[chris bruinenberg]

I installed windows under bootcamp yesterday and i really enjoyed using it.
when i was on a skye call, the sound wouldn't come through the headphones.
Does anybody have suggestions?Thanks.
Chris

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a question about Garage Band on Ipad

[Scott Berry]

Has anyone figured out how to move the Apple loops up to the master time 
line?  I can't seem to get them moved.  Thanks much.



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Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t Keys

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, guys,

I've noticed for quite some time that when I press right-option-t for time as 
the default for the VO keyboard commander time and date, there's about a 
twenty-second delay before anything is spoken. I'm just curious if anyone else 
has experienced this.

Thanks,
Teresa


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checking the Battery Status in MacBook Pro?

[Estelita]

Hello,

Any instruction please on how to check the Battery Status on my MacBook Pro?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t Keys

[Alex Hall]

Me too. My theory is that the script to speak the information has to
be pulled from the hard drive and loaded into ram, then the voice used
has to be looked for and loaded if it is not already being used. Does
the script use a voice that vo is not using by default? If so, I have
a script that uses vo's own speech, speeding the process a good deal.

On 12/11/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> Hi, guys,
>
> I've noticed for quite some time that when I press right-option-t for time
> as the default for the VO keyboard commander time and date, there's about a
> twenty-second delay before anything is spoken. I'm just curious if anyone
> else has experienced this.
>
> Thanks,
> Teresa
>
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Re: checking the Battery Status in MacBook Pro?

[chris bruinenberg]

If you press vo+m twice this brings you to the extras menu if you are using 
mountain lion.
THen you can see your battery in there.
There is also a script for voiceover to announce the battery status.

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Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t Keys

[Harry Hogue]

Alex and Teresa,

I have found this same issue, and have this theory as well.  I do not often use 
the keyboard commander VoiceOVer scripts for this reason, such as opt+B for 
battery, opt+M for Mail, etc.  With each of these commands there is a lengthy 
delay that doesn't make the command practical to use much.  Once it is loaded 
into memory, it then works fine.  As for the voice, I use Fred on a regular 
basis, and still find this delay even though the voice used for the script is 
the same one that VoiceOver uses at other times.

I hope this helps.

Harry

On dic 10, 2012, at 10:56 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:

> Me too. My theory is that the script to speak the information has to
> be pulled from the hard drive and loaded into ram, then the voice used
> has to be looked for and loaded if it is not already being used. Does
> the script use a voice that vo is not using by default? If so, I have
> a script that uses vo's own speech, speeding the process a good deal.
> 
> On 12/11/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Hi, guys,
>> 
>> I've noticed for quite some time that when I press right-option-t for time
>> as the default for the VO keyboard commander time and date, there's about a
>> twenty-second delay before anything is spoken. I'm just curious if anyone
>> else has experienced this.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
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Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?

[Chris H]

Nothing is as accessible as iTunes in my opinion. It is the best in 
terms of accessibility and is even better with the release of iTunes 11. 
Is there anythig we can do to convince you to stay with iTunes?



Christopher Hallsworth

On 11/12/2012 01:52, trahern culver wrote:

hey all please can some one recommend an accessable itunes alternative
that will let me manage my current iTunes libary ipod and iPhone?

your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
trahern.



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Re: Another question but probably an easier one

[Harry Hogue]

Kristeen,

Tim gives some good information, here, and I would like to also note that this 
works in the Mail application and within any application with a tool bar where 
a search box is also present.  In all of my experience, the search box is 
located at the very bottom of the window, so doing a VO+end (VO+shift+FN+right 
arrow on the laptop) will do the trick.  Once you have typed your search 
term(s), press return, then press VO+end again. Then press VO+left arrow a 
couple of times, and you will hear "Path," and then "Listview."  The listview 
is the one you want.  Interact with this and you will find your search results. 
 This was terribly confusing at first, but once you get the hang of it it is a 
really nice way to search your Mac.  Searching for Mail messages is not quite 
as friendly because of the having to interact with the messages column and then 
the messages list, but that's the only slight inconvenience I've found.

I really hope this is helpful.

Thanks,

Harry

On dic 10, 2012, at 9:01 p.m., Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The best way to do this, in my opinion, would be to open the external HD, 
> Interact with the Toolbar within the open window, navigate over to the Search 
> field then enter your search text.  When you do things this way, the results 
> will be limited to the items within the open window.  So, in this case, it 
> will only look within that HD.  If you wish to narrow them further,, simply 
> open the folder where you wish to look for the given search criteria then 
> follow the same process.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-10, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> I want to perform a search on one of my external hard drives through 
>> spotlight. Is there anyway to do this, or do I have to search the whole Mac 
>> even though the files I want are on that external drive?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Re: checking the Battery Status in MacBook Pro?

[Estelita]

Thank you, I'll try that, I am using mountain lion.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: checking the Battery Status in MacBook Pro?


If you press vo+m twice this brings you to the extras menu if you are 
using mountain lion.

THen you can see your battery in there.
There is also a script for voiceover to announce the battery status.

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Re: Putting Icons on iPhone 3GS Home Screen

[Harry Hogue]

Tim,

Wow -- this was amazingly helpful; thank you very much.  Did you find these 
tricks with the iPhone out by playing with the phone? I don't recall any 
detailed instructions about moving items around with VoiceOver on the phone, 
only when using VO with the Mac are deliberate VO commands usually provided, or 
so it seems.

Thanks again.  That is, by the way, what I thought about the Clock app.

Harry

On dic 10, 2012, at 9:11 p.m., Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Harry,
> 
> Placing the Compass and Clock on the Home screen is entirely possible but 
> separating the Timer and such out of the Clock is not.  The Alarm, Stop-Watch 
> and Timer are all built-in to the Clock app and thus cannot be pulled out.
> 
> To move items out of the Utilities folder, double-tap and hold on the item 
> until VO says moving said item.  Don't let go then drag your finger towards 
> any edge of the screen, usually I go left or upper left.  Vo will say 
> something like "Moving outside folder,", just lift your finger at that point 
> and it will be taken out of the folder.  Press your Home button once to take 
> it out of Edit mode.
> 
> You can press it again to close the folder then use the same process to move 
> it to wherever you wish on the Home screen.  Be careful not to drop it in 
> another folder or on another item.  If it's dropped on another item, a new 
> folder will be created.  If you move to the right spot, VO will announce the 
> Row and Column and you simply lift your finger to drop it there.  Items after 
> the place that you drop it will be pushed out of the way.  Also, note that if 
> your page is already full, items can be pushed to the next page.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-10, at 6:26 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I am interested to know how I can go about putting icons on my home screen 
>> from other pages in the phone.  Specifically, I am interested in putting the 
>> compass on my home screen (it is currently in the utilities folder on page 
>> 2), and I would also like to put the timer and alarm clock on my home screen 
>> as separate icons, if that is even possible.  They are all currently under 
>> "Clock."
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.  I really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Harry
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