Tim,

Wow -- this was amazingly helpful; thank you very much.  Did you find these 
tricks with the iPhone out by playing with the phone? I don't recall any 
detailed instructions about moving items around with VoiceOver on the phone, 
only when using VO with the Mac are deliberate VO commands usually provided, or 
so it seems.

Thanks again.  That is, by the way, what I thought about the Clock app.

Harry

On dic 10, 2012, at 9:11 p.m., Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Harry,
> 
> Placing the Compass and Clock on the Home screen is entirely possible but 
> separating the Timer and such out of the Clock is not.  The Alarm, Stop-Watch 
> and Timer are all built-in to the Clock app and thus cannot be pulled out.
> 
> To move items out of the Utilities folder, double-tap and hold on the item 
> until VO says moving said item.  Don't let go then drag your finger towards 
> any edge of the screen, usually I go left or upper left.  Vo will say 
> something like "Moving outside folder,", just lift your finger at that point 
> and it will be taken out of the folder.  Press your Home button once to take 
> it out of Edit mode.
> 
> You can press it again to close the folder then use the same process to move 
> it to wherever you wish on the Home screen.  Be careful not to drop it in 
> another folder or on another item.  If it's dropped on another item, a new 
> folder will be created.  If you move to the right spot, VO will announce the 
> Row and Column and you simply lift your finger to drop it there.  Items after 
> the place that you drop it will be pushed out of the way.  Also, note that if 
> your page is already full, items can be pushed to the next page.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-10, at 6:26 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I am interested to know how I can go about putting icons on my home screen 
>> from other pages in the phone.  Specifically, I am interested in putting the 
>> compass on my home screen (it is currently in the utilities folder on page 
>> 2), and I would also like to put the timer and alarm clock on my home screen 
>> as separate icons, if that is even possible.  They are all currently under 
>> "Clock."
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.  I really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Harry
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