Amadeus Lite - Exporting to iPhone Ringtone

[Chris]

Hello all.
I found a feature in Amadeus Lite to export a file as an iPhone 
ringtone. I tried this, and it sort of works, except the whole file got 
exported. I realize the limitation regarding iPhone ringtones in that 
they must be no more than 30 seconds in length.
So can anyone tell me where I went wrong please? I left the Export as 
iPhone Ringtone settings at their defaults.

Alternatively should I use an app like Fission to do this?
Thanks!

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Re: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS

[Harry Hogue]

i run Windows 7 with VMWare Fusion on my Mac, and JAWS works fine.  Why would 
FS´s official line be that they do not support it, since it is still on 
Windows?  Why should the hardware matter to them?  It should only be a software 
issue to them.  I called them the other day with a question and just pretended 
I had a PC, and, of course, they didn't know the difference.

Thanks,

Harry

On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, John Sanfilippo  wrote:

> I think the thing to keep in mind is that FS says they will not support Jaws 
> running on a Mac. I'm running VIsta on my Mac. I don't think you'll have any 
> problem running win7, but who knows.
>  
> John S
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Phil Halton
> To: Macvisionaries
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:26 PM
> Subject: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS
> 
> Skirting towards off-topic here, but I just got off the phone with 
> FreedomScientific sales and was told that JAWS doesn't work with Mac. Did I 
> get one of their famously clueless reps, or will I have a problem running 
> Jaws 12 64-bit on a bootcamp installation of windows 7 64-bit home premium?
>  
> If so, what screen reader works well with bootcamped versions of windows7 
> home premium?
>  
> Finally, will someone who has done the bootcamp thing PLEASE tell me if I'll 
> need a wired mouse for the windows install? I have a wired apple keyboard, 
> and a wireless trackpad but no mouse, neither wired or wireless, but I'll get 
> one if needed.
>  
> thanks
>  
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Re: menu tab for facebook?

[Maria Chapman]

HI.  to search for friends i'm afraid you need to use the mobile site and 
change the user agent.

hope this helps 
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com

"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 24/09/2012, at 5:37 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

> Yes, I use the app and it is great. One thing I cannot figure out is how on 
> earth do I search for friends? I see the search, but it is impossible to 
> select it with VoiceOver. I think this is the design of the mobile site 
> though, rather than an issue with Menutab. Saying this as I can duplicate the 
> issue in Safari unless I change the user agent to Firefox for example. Thanks 
> for any help on this. Much appreciated.
> Sent from my mac
> 
> 
> 
> On 24 Sep 2012, at 03:48, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> I downloaded this a little while ago, but just now started using it.  Is 
>> anyone on list using this app?  If so, what are your thoughts?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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Re: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

True.  But, for what ever reason, that is the line they want to take.  But I 
agree, I wouldn't even mention I'm running it on Mac hardware or, that I'm 
using a VM.

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On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> i run Windows 7 with VMWare Fusion on my Mac, and JAWS works fine.  Why would 
> FS´s official line be that they do not support it, since it is still on 
> Windows?  Why should the hardware matter to them?  It should only be a 
> software issue to them.  I called them the other day with a question and just 
> pretended I had a PC, and, of course, they didn't know the difference.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, John Sanfilippo  wrote:
> 
>> I think the thing to keep in mind is that FS says they will not support Jaws 
>> running on a Mac. I'm running VIsta on my Mac. I don't think you'll have any 
>> problem running win7, but who knows.
>>  
>> John S
>>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Phil Halton
>> To: Macvisionaries
>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:26 PM
>> Subject: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS
>> 
>> Skirting towards off-topic here, but I just got off the phone with 
>> FreedomScientific sales and was told that JAWS doesn't work with Mac. Did I 
>> get one of their famously clueless reps, or will I have a problem running 
>> Jaws 12 64-bit on a bootcamp installation of windows 7 64-bit home premium?
>>  
>> If so, what screen reader works well with bootcamped versions of windows7 
>> home premium?
>>  
>> Finally, will someone who has done the bootcamp thing PLEASE tell me if I'll 
>> need a wired mouse for the windows install? I have a wired apple keyboard, 
>> and a wireless trackpad but no mouse, neither wired or wireless, but I'll 
>> get one if needed.
>>  
>> thanks
>>  
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how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then pressed 
the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of bugs me a 
little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Al Puzzuoli]

I thought Mountain lion was only 64 bit?

On 9/30/2012 8:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Okay,

This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or 
not I'm running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, 
and then pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; 
but, it sort of bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?



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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Mike Arrigo]

Mountain lion only boots in 64 bit, that's all it has which is probably why 
it's not mentioned.
On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay,
> 
> This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
> running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then 
> pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of 
> bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

 Mountain lion only runs in 64 bit.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Okay,
> 
> This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
> running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then 
> pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of 
> bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Ray Foret Jr]

As did I.  Not, mind you, that it matters; just dying to know.


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On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Al Puzzuoli  wrote:

> I thought Mountain lion was only 64 bit?
> 
> On 9/30/2012 8:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Okay,
>> 
>> This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
>> running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then 
>> pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of 
>> bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Seems perfectly logical to me.


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On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> Mountain lion only boots in 64 bit, that's all it has which is probably why 
> it's not mentioned.
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
>> running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then 
>> pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of 
>> bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yep, it do for sure.


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On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Mountain lion only runs in 64 bit.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
>> running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then 
>> pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of 
>> bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
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the ram manager again. Some progress.

[Matthew Campbell]

Hello all.
Following up on my previous post regarding an accessible ram manager for the 
Mac, I came across a free tiny utility called purge.
This little gem has absolutely no interface what so ever. You just run it, it 
does it's thing, and you have lots of free RAM once again. Seeing as there is 
no interface, there is there fore no accessibility issues with it.
It now has a place in my dock.
If you want to find it, do a google search for purge for Mac. I got my copy 
from macupdate.com.
Hope this helps someone.
Matthew Campbell.


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Re: Amadeus Lite - Exporting to iPhone Ringtone

[Timothy Clark Music]

i use garageband for making ringtones. 
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Chris wrote:

> Hello all.
> I found a feature in Amadeus Lite to export a file as an iPhone ringtone. I 
> tried this, and it sort of works, except the whole file got exported. I 
> realize the limitation regarding iPhone ringtones in that they must be no 
> more than 30 seconds in length.
> So can anyone tell me where I went wrong please? I left the Export as iPhone 
> Ringtone settings at their defaults.
> Alternatively should I use an app like Fission to do this?
> Thanks!
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Re: protected pdf

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi,
A couple  of suggestions that are far less expensive than Steve's below 
smiles.
first, do not write kobo, call them.  More often than not they use a 
customer service filtering email  which may have no idea what to do with that 
message.  time for a human.
Second, kobo may not be the issue, but the book publisher or author if 
self published.  If it is worth your investment, it is worth it to them 
that you tell them of the issue.
Honestly fixing or breaking into  the book  does not contribute to 
people who innocently 
prevent access like this from learning.
More often than not, they are more than willing to learn, perhaps 
replacing your copy with an unprotected one.
Just some ideas really depending on how much you value the money you spent 
and the information in that book.

Karen

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012, Steve Holmes wrote:


I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs $299 
US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.

Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!

On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:


Hi all
I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is actually 
a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on my iPhone or 
mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them is 
that right?
I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.

Cheers
Lisette

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Very useful program

[Kliphton]

Hello, I use a program called "Movavi video converter".  I originally used
it on windows, and still do.  But it is much more accessible on the mac.
What this program does, is take your AVI, MKV, and many other formats of
videos and puts them in the MP4 format soe that you can put them in to
iTunes to be sinked with your I device.  For me this was a huge help, since
I have over 2000 movies and TV shows that I like to watch, that are already
on an external HD, and I didn't want to have to by them again through
iTunes.  Now I just convert the movies I want, import them in to iTunes, and
I'm good to go.  No paying for extra data to watch through iTunes match, no
spending hundreds of dollars to buy them in iTunes store.  Just spending 40
bucks for this program.  And when a new version comes out, you get 30
percent off the upgrade.  And for those of you who have a DVD collection
that you want to rip to your hard drive, I have heard of people using
handbreak for this, and even DVD remaster.  Personally I have never gotten
either one of those programs to work for me.  A program I did have success
with is called "DVD to AVI"  It's made by a company called "Leawo software"
Not only does it rip the DVD for you, but by passes the copy write
protection with no other apps or programs to install.  Don't know how vo
accessible it is, cause never used it on the mac.  Personally I haven't
bought a DVD or rented from the redbox in over a year.  I use other
resources not fit for this list.  If you'd like to know more about that, my
contact info is always at the end of my messages.  Hope this helps someone
save money like it did me.

 

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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[John Panarese]

 You can run applications in 32 Bit mode if needed from the Get Info Window 
in Finder with command-i if it is ever necessary.  The Get Info window will 
also tell you if the app happens to be a 32 Bit app as well.


Take Care

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On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Seems perfectly logical to me.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
>> Mountain lion only boots in 64 bit, that's all it has which is probably why 
>> it's not mentioned.
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not 
>>> I'm running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then 
>>> pressed the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of 
>>> bugs me a little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
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help with nicecast

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello list,

I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac.  When I try to listen 
to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear anything although, I know 
music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using an airport express for my router.  
Any help would be appreciated.

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Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

[Teresa Cochran]

hi, all,

I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of Calibre 
to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are many 
work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, it 
doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, command-line 
isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would be beneficial, 
if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble project, but perhaps 
something can be done to improve accessibility for this very useful application.

Teresa

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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Steve Holmes]

Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  When 
I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down through 
the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the VO-Arrow keys 
to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going across the table 
and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be doing wrong here? I 
haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.

I'm using 10.8.2.

On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the Mac 
> and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon code of 
> "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 50% discount 
> when applied at check out up through the end of September.  These books are 
> DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions.  Furthermore, once 
> you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or $15, you can get all 
> minor version revisions free and re-download alternate formats from your 
> account, and often you can get a discount on the new major version of the 
> eBook.
> 
> I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as "Take 
> Control of iTunes" or even "Take Control of Switching to the Mac", may be of 
> interest.  For Mac users, titles such as "Take Control of Apple Mail in 
> Mountain Lion",
> "Take Control of Using Mountain Lion", "Take Control of Troubleshooting Your 
> Mac, Second Edition", "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal" 
> (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), "Take Control of Backing Up 
> Your Mac", and "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition" 
> (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of interest.  These guides are 
> very hands on and practical;  some of them have information that I've never 
> found anywhere else.  
> 
> If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
> should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
> http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
> 
> Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
> 
> You can browse the "Take Control" titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
> device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
> formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for purchases 
> made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the titles in 
> iBooks).
> 
> I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
> • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
> • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
> • Take Control of Using Mountain Lion
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-using
> • Take Control of Switching to the Mac
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
> • Take Control of Backing up Your Mac
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
> • Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line
> • Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/airport-n
> 
> There are also good guides for GarageBand, third party apps such as Scrivener.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Steve Holmes]

I just went to a familiar transit site and looked up a bus schedule and that 
table navigated just fine.  So it is the table on the Take Control Books site 
that doesn't work for me.

Any ideas out there on how to get around their table?

On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the Mac 
> and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon code of 
> "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 50% discount 
> when applied at check out up through the end of September.  These books are 
> DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions.  Furthermore, once 
> you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or $15, you can get all 
> minor version revisions free and re-download alternate formats from your 
> account, and often you can get a discount on the new major version of the 
> eBook.
> 
> I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as "Take 
> Control of iTunes" or even "Take Control of Switching to the Mac", may be of 
> interest.  For Mac users, titles such as "Take Control of Apple Mail in 
> Mountain Lion",
> "Take Control of Using Mountain Lion", "Take Control of Troubleshooting Your 
> Mac, Second Edition", "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal" 
> (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), "Take Control of Backing Up 
> Your Mac", and "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition" 
> (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of interest.  These guides are 
> very hands on and practical;  some of them have information that I've never 
> found anywhere else.  
> 
> If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
> should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
> http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
> 
> Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
> 
> You can browse the "Take Control" titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
> device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
> formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for purchases 
> made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the titles in 
> iBooks).
> 
> I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
> • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
> • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
> • Take Control of Using Mountain Lion
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-using
> • Take Control of Switching to the Mac
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
> • Take Control of Backing up Your Mac
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
> • Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line
> • Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/airport-n
> 
> There are also good guides for GarageBand, third party apps such as Scrivener.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

[craig J Dunlop]

After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> www.blindsidegame.com

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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Steve,

I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.

Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. If 
you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak text 
under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, Announcements tab, 
in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
> When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
> through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
> VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
> across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
> doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
> 
> I'm using 10.8.2.
> 
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the Mac 
>> and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon code of 
>> "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 50% 
>> discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  These 
>> books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions.  
>> Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or $15, 
>> you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download alternate 
>> formats from your account, and often you can get a discount on the new major 
>> version of the eBook.
>> 
>> I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as "Take 
>> Control of iTunes" or even "Take Control of Switching to the Mac", may be of 
>> interest.  For Mac users, titles such as "Take Control of Apple Mail in 
>> Mountain Lion",
>> "Take Control of Using Mountain Lion", "Take Control of Troubleshooting Your 
>> Mac, Second Edition", "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal" 
>> (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), "Take Control of Backing 
>> Up Your Mac", and "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third 
>> Edition" (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of interest.  These 
>> guides are very hands on and practical;  some of them have information that 
>> I've never found anywhere else.  
>> 
>> If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
>> should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
>> http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
>> 
>> Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>> 
>> You can browse the "Take Control" titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
>> device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
>> formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for 
>> purchases made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the 
>> titles in iBooks).
>> 
>> I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
>> • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
>> • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
>> • Take Control of Using Mountain Lion
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-using
>> • Take Control of Switching to the Mac
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
>> • Take Control of Backing up Your Mac
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
>> • Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line
>> • Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/airport-n
>> 
>> There are also good guides for GarageBand, third party apps such as 
>> Scrivener.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
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Re: Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

[Kliphton]

what does this program do?

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On Sep 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

hi, all,

I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of Calibre 
to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are many 
work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, it 
doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, command-line 
isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would be beneficial, 
if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble project, but perhaps 
something can be done to improve accessibility for this very useful application.

Teresa

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Re: the ram manager again. Some progress.

[-]

Someone posted:

"Mac, I came across a free tiny utility called purge.
This little gem has absolutely no interface what so ever. You just run it,
it does it's thing, and you have lots of free RAM once again. Seeing as
there is no interface, there is there fore no accessibility issues with 
it.

It now has a place in my dock.
If you want to find it, do a google search for purge for Mac. I got my 
copy

from macupdate.com."

Me:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39777/purge

On that site in the comments we find this about how it is already 
available on the mac:


All this does is execute the 'purge' command that comes with the Developer 
Tools (Xcode etc.) from Apple. The Developer Tools need to be installed 
for this to work (you can also just type 'purge' in Terminal).


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Bulk conversion of mp3 to Wave using Audacity or something else?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi folks,

It's been a while.  I just downloaded Audacity and I need to convert about 
80 or so 30 second mp3 clips to .wav.  Is there any way in Audacity to do 
this in one bulk operation?  I really don't want to do them one-at-a-time.  

thanks for any help,
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Steve Holmes]

I'm trying to figure out how to use the mouse keys again; I've only done this 
some while ago.  I certainly cannot find the checkboxes.  Any review possible? 
I can't seem to find anything in VO helps about mouse keys either.

Sorry for so much trouble.  If these books weren't that interesting, I wouldn't 
bother with this pig of a website!!!

On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Steve,
> 
> I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
> down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
> This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
> 
> Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. 
> If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak 
> text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, Announcements 
> tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
>> When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
>> through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
>> VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
>> across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
>> doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
>> 
>> I'm using 10.8.2.
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the 
>>> Mac and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon 
>>> code of "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 
>>> 50% discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  
>>> These books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions.  
>>> Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or 
>>> $15, you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download alternate 
>>> formats from your account, and often you can get a discount on the new 
>>> major version of the eBook.
>>> 
>>> I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as "Take 
>>> Control of iTunes" or even "Take Control of Switching to the Mac", may be 
>>> of interest.  For Mac users, titles such as "Take Control of Apple Mail in 
>>> Mountain Lion",
>>> "Take Control of Using Mountain Lion", "Take Control of Troubleshooting 
>>> Your Mac, Second Edition", "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with 
>>> Terminal" (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), "Take Control 
>>> of Backing Up Your Mac", and "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, 
>>> Third Edition" (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of interest.  
>>> These guides are very hands on and practical;  some of them have 
>>> information that I've never found anywhere else.  
>>> 
>>> If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
>>> should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
>>> http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>>> 
>>> You can browse the "Take Control" titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
>>> device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
>>> formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for 
>>> purchases made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the 
>>> titles in iBooks).
>>> 
>>> I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
>>> • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
>>> • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
>>> • Take Control of Using Mountain Lion
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-using
>>> • Take Control of Switching to the Mac
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
>>> • Take Control of Backing up Your Mac
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
>>> • Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line
>>> • Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, Third Edition
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/airport-n
>>> 
>>> There are also good guides for GarageBand, third party apps such as 
>>> Scrivener.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
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braille display

[Marianne Denning]

This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
too.

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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Esther]

Hi Steve and Others,

I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  Then 
if you use VO-U you can move down the list to the item you want and use 
VO-Space or your Up+Down arrow keys to check/uncheck the box. By default the 
listed entries will be set to "Mountain Lion", I think.  To change the listed 
entries to something else, set your web rotor to links, use VO-U, and choose 
"All Ebooks" (a really long list, though, so I don't necessarily recommend it) 
or arrow down past topics to "General Macintosh", "Apple's Mac Apps", "Other 
Mac Apps", "Airport & Wi-Fi", etc.  Then activate the link to reload the new 
entries, navigate to the heading "Save 50% During the Take Control September 
Sale!", and VO-Right or Right Arrow to the table.  

The other way that works for me is to use item chooser menu (VO-I), then type 
the first few letters of "unchecked".  Navigate down to the title you want, and 
use VO-Space or the Up+Down arrow keys to check or uncheck the box.  The issue 
I have when choosing a link to load up another set of books is that these 
navigation controls don't refresh with the new entries as being associated with 
the titles.  If I toggle VoiceOver on and off, I can view the newly selected 
entries under Form Controls in the web rotor, or when I use item chooser menu 
and type "u n c" to find the unchecked entries, and then I can check or uncheck 
the boxes without any use of Mouse Keys.

Gremlins seem to be swallowing up some of my posts these last two days.  I 
originally composed a long and detailed answer to Cheryl much earlier in this 
thread, only to have it disappear.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:07, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Steve,
> 
> I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
> down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
> This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
> 
> Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. 
> If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak 
> text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, Announcements 
> tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
>> When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
>> through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
>> VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
>> across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
>> doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
>> 
>> I'm using 10.8.2.
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the 
>>> Mac and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon 
>>> code of "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 
>>> 50% discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  
>>> These books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions.  
>>> Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or 
>>> $15, you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download alternate 
>>> formats from your account, and often you can get a discount on the new 
>>> major version of the eBook.
>>> 
>>> I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as "Take 
>>> Control of iTunes" or even "Take Control of Switching to the Mac", may be 
>>> of interest.  For Mac users, titles such as "Take Control of Apple Mail in 
>>> Mountain Lion",
>>> "Take Control of Using Mountain Lion", "Take Control of Troubleshooting 
>>> Your Mac, Second Edition", "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with 
>>> Terminal" (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), "Take Control 
>>> of Backing Up Your Mac", and "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network, 
>>> Third Edition" (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of interest.  
>>> These guides are very hands on and practical;  some of them have 
>>> information that I've never found anywhere else.  
>>> 
>>> If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
>>> should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
>>> http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>>> 
>>> You can browse the "Take Control" titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
>>> device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
>>> formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for 
>>> purchases made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the 
>>> titles in iBooks).
>>> 
>

Re: help with nicecast

[Chris]

Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the 
10th birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I do 
with it? It says I can create my own internet radio station. If that is 
the case do I need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I mean just 
imagine broadcasting my music collection to the internet smile.

Thanks for any comments on this.

On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hello list,

I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac.  When I try to listen 
to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear anything although, I know 
music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using an airport express for my router.  
Any help would be appreciated.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info



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Re: braille display

[Becky Knaub]

Hi,
A focus 40 Blue will work with IOS Mac and Windows w/ JAWS. HTH

Becky and Ceil
On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Marianne Denning  wrote:

> This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
> purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
> has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
> using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
> is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
> too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
> Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
> too.
> 
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Using Mouse Keys {was Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale]

[Esther]

Hi Steve,

I don't need to use mouse keys to check the boxes on the Take Control site (see 
my previous post), but here's a link to an old post from the macvisionaries 
archives:
• Re: mouse keys
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg64233.html

You can skip most of the explanation, and just set up Mouse Keys to turn on and 
off with by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly under System Preferences > 
Accessibility (used to be "Universal Access" in earlier version of the OS) 
under the Mouse & Keyboard options, and if you're using Mountain Lion, you can 
also use Command-Option-F5, I think, to get to the panel to enable or disable 
Mouse Keys.  Make sure to do the verbosity set-up in VoiceOver utility that 
Anne described. (It's explained in more detail in the linked post).  Then you 
can click on controls using your "i" key.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 30, 2012, at 08:34, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I'm trying to figure out how to use the mouse keys again; I've only done this 
> some while ago.  I certainly cannot find the checkboxes.  Any review 
> possible? I can't seem to find anything in VO helps about mouse keys either.
> 
> Sorry for so much trouble.  If these books weren't that interesting, I 
> wouldn't bother with this pig of a website!!!
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Steve,
>> 
>> I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
>> down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
>> This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
>> 
>> Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. 
>> If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak 
>> text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, 
>> Announcements tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
>>> When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
>>> through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
>>> VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
>>> across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
>>> doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
>>> 
>>> I'm using 10.8.2.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi All,
 
 The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the 
 Mac and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon 
 code of "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 
 50% discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  
 These books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions. 
  Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or 
 $15, you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download 
 alternate formats from your account, and often you can get a discount on 
 the new major version of the eBook.
 
 I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as "Take 
 Control of iTunes" or even "Take Control of Switching to the Mac", may be 
 of interest.  For Mac users, titles such as "Take Control of Apple Mail in 
 Mountain Lion",
 "Take Control of Using Mountain Lion", "Take Control of Troubleshooting 
 Your Mac, Second Edition", "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with 
 Terminal" (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), "Take Control 
 of Backing Up Your Mac", and "Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort 
 Network, Third Edition" (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of 
 interest.  These guides are very hands on and practical;  some of them 
 have information that I've never found anywhere else.  
 
 If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
 should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
 http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
 
 Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
 
 You can browse the "Take Control" titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
 device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
 formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for 
 purchases made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the 
 titles in iBooks).
 
 I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
 • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
 • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
>>>

Re: help with nicecast

[Timothy Clark Music]

hello - 
 you can broadcast using either your own bandwidth from your internet. 
 so you would be using the built in server or you could set up a server with 
shout cast, ichacast, or live365. 
 hope this helps
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Chris wrote:

> Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the 10th 
> birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I do with it? 
> It says I can create my own internet radio station. If that is the case do I 
> need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I mean just imagine broadcasting 
> my music collection to the internet smile.
> Thanks for any comments on this.
> 
> On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac.  When I try to 
>> listen to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear anything 
>> although, I know music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using an airport 
>> express for my router.  Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Cheryl Homiak]

Okay, here's what I did.

I started where it says buy selected books button. i tabbed through the titles 
and hit the spacebar only (not vo-space) to check the boxes. I was able to 
simply hit enter/return on the category choice; I wanted to see all books. But 
since I was then at the bottom of the list i had to use shift-tab to go through 
the books and then hit space only to check items. Then on the cart page, if you 
aren't seeing your total and couplon discount, use the item chooser and you 
will see those things. If you are paying with paypal and it says it needs a 
billing address to process your order, just keep going and when you are taken 
back to the website you will be able to complete the purchase with no problem. 
Admittedly it's a horrible website for accessibility if you don't know what to 
do, but it is actually quite workable once you figure it out. I was able to use 
it to purchase nearly $100 worth of books but I justify it by telling myself it 
would have been close to $200 without the discount. Mouse keys is not necessary 
at all on the website and since I'm known for using mouse keys often the fact 
that I passed up an opportunity to employ them means they really aren't needed 
- grin!




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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Steve and Others,
> 
> I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  
> Then if you use VO-U you can move down the list to the item you want and use 
> VO-Space or your Up+Down arrow keys to check/uncheck the box. By default the 
> listed entries will be set to "Mountain Lion", I think.  To change the listed 
> entries to something else, set your web rotor to links, use VO-U, and choose 
> "All Ebooks" (a really long list, though, so I don't necessarily recommend 
> it) or arrow down past topics to "General Macintosh", "Apple's Mac Apps", 
> "Other Mac Apps", "Airport & Wi-Fi", etc.  Then activate the link to reload 
> the new entries, navigate to the heading "Save 50% During the Take Control 
> September Sale!", and VO-Right or Right Arrow to the table.  
> 
> The other way that works for me is to use item chooser menu (VO-I), then type 
> the first few letters of "unchecked".  Navigate down to the title you want, 
> and use VO-Space or the Up+Down arrow keys to check or uncheck the box.  The 
> issue I have when choosing a link to load up another set of books is that 
> these navigation controls don't refresh with the new entries as being 
> associated with the titles.  If I toggle VoiceOver on and off, I can view the 
> newly selected entries under Form Controls in the web rotor, or when I use 
> item chooser menu and type "u n c" to find the unchecked entries, and then I 
> can check or uncheck the boxes without any use of Mouse Keys.
> 
> Gremlins seem to be swallowing up some of my posts these last two days.  I 
> originally composed a long and detailed answer to Cheryl much earlier in this 
> thread, only to have it disappear.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:07, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Steve,
>> 
>> I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
>> down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
>> This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
>> 
>> Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. 
>> If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak 
>> text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, 
>> Announcements tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
>>> When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
>>> through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
>>> VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
>>> across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
>>> doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
>>> 
>>> I'm using 10.8.2.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi All,
 
 The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the 
 Mac and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon 
 code of "CPN20921SEPSALE" (without the quotation marks) that will give a 
 50% discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  
 These books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions. 
  Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or 
 $15, you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download 
 alternate formats 

Rogue Amoeba 10th Anniversary Sale today

[Esther]

Hi All,

In honor of Rogue Amoeba's 10th Anniversary, all products on their web site 
that are purchased today (September 30) have a $10 savings.  Airfoil for either 
Mac or Windows is $15 instead of $25, and if you want their combined Airfoil 
bundle for both platforms it's $30 instead of $40. Audio Hijack Pro is $22 
instead of $32. Fission is $22 instead of $32, and if you want to buy the Audio 
Hijack Pro + Fission bundle, it's $40 instead of $50.  Nicecast for 
broadcasting your music is $49 instead of $59, and Piezo, a very simple 
recording app, is $5 instead of $15.

The Rogue Amoeba web page for the sale is:
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/store/deals/TenthAnniversary.php

However, you can just go to the main web site, and today any of the items you 
purchase will have the $10 discount applied, whether you use the above link or 
the regular web page links from:

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/

HTH.  I've listed the prices because on the sale web page I hear VoiceOver 
announce all the items as a price drop from $25 to $5, which is not correct.  
Also, on the check out page, by default the first radio button (for credit 
cards) will be selected.  If you want to use Paypal, switch this to the second 
radio button.   The sale is good for another 8+ hours. 

Cheers,

Esther


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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks to you and Esther, I managed to order 4 books so far.  It is a strange 
experience indeed.  I had some problem associating checkboxes with the right 
books though but I was probably mix and matching when to use VO modifiers keys. 
 It was almost easier to add more books to the cart and then just remove the 
unwanted ones.  I hope I can use the coupon more than once today.  I might go 
look for some more outside the mountain lion category.

On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Okay, here's what I did.
> 
> I started where it says buy selected books button. i tabbed through the 
> titles and hit the spacebar only (not vo-space) to check the boxes. I was 
> able to simply hit enter/return on the category choice; I wanted to see all 
> books. But since I was then at the bottom of the list i had to use shift-tab 
> to go through the books and then hit space only to check items. Then on the 
> cart page, if you aren't seeing your total and couplon discount, use the item 
> chooser and you will see those things. If you are paying with paypal and it 
> says it needs a billing address to process your order, just keep going and 
> when you are taken back to the website you will be able to complete the 
> purchase with no problem. Admittedly it's a horrible website for 
> accessibility if you don't know what to do, but it is actually quite workable 
> once you figure it out. I was able to use it to purchase nearly $100 worth of 
> books but I justify it by telling myself it would have been close to $200 
> without the discount. Mouse keys is not necessary at all on the website and 
> since I'm known for using mouse keys often the fact that I passed up an 
> opportunity to employ them means they really aren't needed - grin!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Steve and Others,
>> 
>> I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  
>> Then if you use VO-U you can move down the list to the item you want and use 
>> VO-Space or your Up+Down arrow keys to check/uncheck the box. By default the 
>> listed entries will be set to "Mountain Lion", I think.  To change the 
>> listed entries to something else, set your web rotor to links, use VO-U, and 
>> choose "All Ebooks" (a really long list, though, so I don't necessarily 
>> recommend it) or arrow down past topics to "General Macintosh", "Apple's Mac 
>> Apps", "Other Mac Apps", "Airport & Wi-Fi", etc.  Then activate the link to 
>> reload the new entries, navigate to the heading "Save 50% During the Take 
>> Control September Sale!", and VO-Right or Right Arrow to the table.  
>> 
>> The other way that works for me is to use item chooser menu (VO-I), then 
>> type the first few letters of "unchecked".  Navigate down to the title you 
>> want, and use VO-Space or the Up+Down arrow keys to check or uncheck the 
>> box.  The issue I have when choosing a link to load up another set of books 
>> is that these navigation controls don't refresh with the new entries as 
>> being associated with the titles.  If I toggle VoiceOver on and off, I can 
>> view the newly selected entries under Form Controls in the web rotor, or 
>> when I use item chooser menu and type "u n c" to find the unchecked entries, 
>> and then I can check or uncheck the boxes without any use of Mouse Keys.
>> 
>> Gremlins seem to be swallowing up some of my posts these last two days.  I 
>> originally composed a long and detailed answer to Cheryl much earlier in 
>> this thread, only to have it disappear.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:07, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Steve,
>>> 
>>> I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
>>> down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go 
>>> there. This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
>>> 
>>> Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for 
>>> me. If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box 
>>> Speak text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, 
>>> Announcements tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
 When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go 
 down through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use 
 the VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be 
 going across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What 
 might I be doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML 
 before.
 
 I'm using 10.8.2.
 
>

Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

[Teresa Cochran]

There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game for 
the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for "DMG" on the page.
http://www.desura.com/games/blindside

HtH,
Teresa
On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop  wrote:

> After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
> available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> www.blindsidegame.com
> 
> 
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Re: Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

[Teresa Cochran]

It converts ebooks between many different formats, but is currently 
inaccessible on the Mac with the graphical user interface.

Teresa

On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Kliphton  wrote:

> what does this program do?
> 
> Kliphton-SR
> (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
> )(iMessage, FaceTime&Email) kliph...@gmail.com
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> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
> Sent from Minister Miller's iPhone5
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> On Sep 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
> hi, all,
> 
> I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of 
> Calibre to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are 
> many work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
> interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, 
> it doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, 
> command-line isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would 
> be beneficial, if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble 
> project, but perhaps something can be done to improve accessibility for this 
> very useful application.
> 
> Teresa
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Re: help with nicecast

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I'm trying to use the built in server.  My devices seem to be connecting but, 
No sounds is being played.  Any suggestions?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Timothy Clark Music  
wrote:

> hello - 
> you can broadcast using either your own bandwidth from your internet. 
> so you would be using the built in server or you could set up a server with 
> shout cast, ichacast, or live365. 
> hope this helps
> God Bless. 
> Timothy. 
> Your friend in the music industry  
> http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
> 7244011224
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Chris wrote:
> 
>> Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the 10th 
>> birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I do with it? 
>> It says I can create my own internet radio station. If that is the case do I 
>> need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I mean just imagine 
>> broadcasting my music collection to the internet smile.
>> Thanks for any comments on this.
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac.  When I try to 
>>> listen to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear anything 
>>> although, I know music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using an airport 
>>> express for my router.  Any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
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Re: Rogue Amoeba 10th Anniversary Sale today

[Les Kriegler]

I've seen reference to AirFoil.  What does it do and what equipment does one 
need to use it?  Thanks.

Les
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> In honor of Rogue Amoeba's 10th Anniversary, all products on their web site 
> that are purchased today (September 30) have a $10 savings.  Airfoil for 
> either Mac or Windows is $15 instead of $25, and if you want their combined 
> Airfoil bundle for both platforms it's $30 instead of $40. Audio Hijack Pro 
> is $22 instead of $32. Fission is $22 instead of $32, and if you want to buy 
> the Audio Hijack Pro + Fission bundle, it's $40 instead of $50.  Nicecast for 
> broadcasting your music is $49 instead of $59, and Piezo, a very simple 
> recording app, is $5 instead of $15.
> 
> The Rogue Amoeba web page for the sale is:
> http://www.rogueamoeba.com/store/deals/TenthAnniversary.php
> 
> However, you can just go to the main web site, and today any of the items you 
> purchase will have the $10 discount applied, whether you use the above link 
> or the regular web page links from:
> 
> http://www.rogueamoeba.com/
> 
> HTH.  I've listed the prices because on the sale web page I hear VoiceOver 
> announce all the items as a price drop from $25 to $5, which is not correct.  
> Also, on the check out page, by default the first radio button (for credit 
> cards) will be selected.  If you want to use Paypal, switch this to the 
> second radio button.   The sale is good for another 8+ hours. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Cheryl Homiak]

When I used tab and shift-tab, the checkbox and the title of the book were 
associated so that I didn't have any problem telling what I was ordering. They 
were spoken together and as long as I didn't try to use vo-keys but just the 
space bar, each checkbox was checked though it didn't say "checked" when i 
pressed the space bar. I was able to fill my cart with 15 items all at once 
correctly by using this method. I was using the anniversary link that Esther 
provided but when I saw that this was only one category I went on to "all 
books" and added more books without losing the checkmarks on the books I had 
already chosen. Wile tabbing, I don't remember whether I was able to do 
vokeys-space on "buy selected books" or if I had to just hit enter. But I don't 
know whether I had any particular setting in safari that made tabbing work for 
me and the method suggested by others certainly also would work. I don't think 
the coupon has to be used only for one order.



-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks to you and Esther, I managed to order 4 books so far.  It is a strange 
> experience indeed.  I had some problem associating checkboxes with the right 
> books though but I was probably mix and matching when to use VO modifiers 
> keys.  It was almost easier to add more books to the cart and then just 
> remove the unwanted ones.  I hope I can use the coupon more than once today.  
> I might go look for some more outside the mountain lion category.
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, here's what I did.
>> 
>> I started where it says buy selected books button. i tabbed through the 
>> titles and hit the spacebar only (not vo-space) to check the boxes. I was 
>> able to simply hit enter/return on the category choice; I wanted to see all 
>> books. But since I was then at the bottom of the list i had to use shift-tab 
>> to go through the books and then hit space only to check items. Then on the 
>> cart page, if you aren't seeing your total and couplon discount, use the 
>> item chooser and you will see those things. If you are paying with paypal 
>> and it says it needs a billing address to process your order, just keep 
>> going and when you are taken back to the website you will be able to 
>> complete the purchase with no problem. Admittedly it's a horrible website 
>> for accessibility if you don't know what to do, but it is actually quite 
>> workable once you figure it out. I was able to use it to purchase nearly 
>> $100 worth of books but I justify it by telling myself it would have been 
>> close to $200 without the discount. Mouse keys is not necessary at all on 
>> the website and since I'm known for using mouse keys often the fact that I 
>> passed up an opportunity to employ them means they really aren't needed - 
>> grin!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Steve and Others,
>>> 
>>> I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  
>>> Then if you use VO-U you can move down the list to the item you want and 
>>> use VO-Space or your Up+Down arrow keys to check/uncheck the box. By 
>>> default the listed entries will be set to "Mountain Lion", I think.  To 
>>> change the listed entries to something else, set your web rotor to links, 
>>> use VO-U, and choose "All Ebooks" (a really long list, though, so I don't 
>>> necessarily recommend it) or arrow down past topics to "General Macintosh", 
>>> "Apple's Mac Apps", "Other Mac Apps", "Airport & Wi-Fi", etc.  Then 
>>> activate the link to reload the new entries, navigate to the heading "Save 
>>> 50% During the Take Control September Sale!", and VO-Right or Right Arrow 
>>> to the table.  
>>> 
>>> The other way that works for me is to use item chooser menu (VO-I), then 
>>> type the first few letters of "unchecked".  Navigate down to the title you 
>>> want, and use VO-Space or the Up+Down arrow keys to check or uncheck the 
>>> box.  The issue I have when choosing a link to load up another set of books 
>>> is that these navigation controls don't refresh with the new entries as 
>>> being associated with the titles.  If I toggle VoiceOver on and off, I can 
>>> view the newly selected entries under Form Controls in the web rotor, or 
>>> when I use item chooser menu and type "u n c" to find the unchecked 
>>> entries, and then I can check or uncheck the boxes without any use of Mouse 
>>> Keys.
>>> 
>>> Gremlins seem to be swallowing up some of my posts these last two days.  I 
>>> originally composed a long and detailed answer to Cheryl much earlier in 
>>> this thread, only to have it disappear.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  

Re: Problems with Airserver

[patricia solis]

Hi al,

No not the only one. I'm also having problems  with Air Server. Not 
with the audio  but with video. I  have an Imac  and running Mountain   Lion.
 It was working fine  until the  last 2 updates.


On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Al Puzzuoli  wrote:

> Hi,
> Just wondering if others are using Airserver? If so, how have your 
> experiences been? Mine have been spotty at best. When I try to Airplay from 
> my iPhone to my iMac, with most apps audio may not start at all, is choppy, 
> or stops altogether. MlB At Bat doesn't work at all, the iMac pops up an 
> airserver window with a URl and an unknown error code. I've played with 
> Airserver settings, audio buffers, etc, but to no avail.
> The interesting thing is, this iMac is running Bootcamp. if I boot into 
> Windows, I can run Shareport4w, a free Airplay utility, which works 
> perfectly. So, same iMac, same network. Shareport4w works flawelessly in 
> Windows, while Airserver under Mountain Lion gives me nothing but grief. 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Al
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

[Esther]

I think you can use this coupon as many times as you want before the sale runs 
out.  Cheryl's suggestion of using tab and shift tab to navigate is very 
robust.  There's another way you can view all the listed books: one of the 
entries under links that shows up after all the specific topics is "Year 
Published".  If you navigate to that link and activate it (VO-Space), you'll 
view a set of links like "2012Ebooks", "2011Ebooks", etc.  and you tab to these 
and activate the links for books published by year.  This can be helpful, 
because if you use the "All Ebooks" links you'll have about 3 different 
versions of GarageBand, multiple versions of the AirPort networking guides, 
etc. according to when they were updated.  If you browse by year, you can start 
at 2012 and work back, and the most recent books are more likely to be of 
interest.  This is also a good way to find the application-specific guides for 
third party software -- for example, if you're interested in using Scrivener on 
the Mac, there's a  "Take Control of Using Scrivener 2" guide.

I'm not sure exactly what time the sale ends, so check that the total has the 
discount applied.  After the subtotal there should be a line with the coupon 
code and a negative amount that is half the subtotal.  Then the total should be 
half the subtotal with the coupon code adjustment.  You shouldn't have to enter 
the coupon code if you use the linked sale web site, though.

Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:35, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> When I used tab and shift-tab, the checkbox and the title of the book were 
> associated so that I didn't have any problem telling what I was ordering. 
> They were spoken together and as long as I didn't try to use vo-keys but just 
> the space bar, each checkbox was checked though it didn't say "checked" when 
> i pressed the space bar. I was able to fill my cart with 15 items all at once 
> correctly by using this method. I was using the anniversary link that Esther 
> provided but when I saw that this was only one category I went on to "all 
> books" and added more books without losing the checkmarks on the books I had 
> already chosen. Wile tabbing, I don't remember whether I was able to do 
> vokeys-space on "buy selected books" or if I had to just hit enter. But I 
> don't know whether I had any particular setting in safari that made tabbing 
> work for me and the method suggested by others certainly also would work. I 
> don't think the coupon has to be used only for one order.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to you and Esther, I managed to order 4 books so far.  It is a 
>> strange experience indeed.  I had some problem associating checkboxes with 
>> the right books though but I was probably mix and matching when to use VO 
>> modifiers keys.  It was almost easier to add more books to the cart and then 
>> just remove the unwanted ones.  I hope I can use the coupon more than once 
>> today.  I might go look for some more outside the mountain lion category.
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, here's what I did.
>>> 
>>> I started where it says buy selected books button. i tabbed through the 
>>> titles and hit the spacebar only (not vo-space) to check the boxes. I was 
>>> able to simply hit enter/return on the category choice; I wanted to see all 
>>> books. But since I was then at the bottom of the list i had to use 
>>> shift-tab to go through the books and then hit space only to check items. 
>>> Then on the cart page, if you aren't seeing your total and couplon 
>>> discount, use the item chooser and you will see those things. If you are 
>>> paying with paypal and it says it needs a billing address to process your 
>>> order, just keep going and when you are taken back to the website you will 
>>> be able to complete the purchase with no problem. Admittedly it's a 
>>> horrible website for accessibility if you don't know what to do, but it is 
>>> actually quite workable once you figure it out. I was able to use it to 
>>> purchase nearly $100 worth of books but I justify it by telling myself it 
>>> would have been close to $200 without the discount. Mouse keys is not 
>>> necessary at all on the website and since I'm known for using mouse keys 
>>> often the fact that I passed up an opportunity to employ them means they 
>>> really aren't needed - grin!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Steve and Others,
 
 I navigated the table entries by setting the web rotor to form controls.  
 Then if you use VO-U you can move do

Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

May I say something without sounding very rude, as I tend to normally do?  

How much effort really did your friend put into it?  Second of all, no offense 
but are you basing this opinion on that of what your friend said, or that on 
what you personally yourself has seen?  I totally totally agree with you that 
the app isn't very good, not at all, but come on, it's not that! bad.  I agree, 
I'd not use it... I'd use Musicdock instead, but it's not that bad.  I still 
can browse genres, and the different channels, and get them to play.  It's 
definitely a bit clunky, in your defense, I definitely'll give ya that, but it 
can be done.

Also, again, this is only an opinion, not a fact, so take it as such, but I 
completely disagree with what you said on the quality of music.  There have 
been things on XM I've heard, that I'd never dream of hearing on regular FM 
radio.  I may hear it on fm radio, but, not necessarily.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Pam Francis 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


  Matt please ask a question? Since when did Sirius XM app become accessible at 
thing has always been a piece of junk. I had a friend who told me that he could 
get around it a little easier, however it still was not quality that it 
should've been. I dump Sirius XM primarily because their app was so crappy. I 
find I'm able to get the same quality of music on the radio on the Internet for 
free

  Pam Francis

  On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:21 PM, "David Tanner"  wrote:


  I have the MusicDoc software and really like it, but I have noticed 
justrecently that some of the channels have changed and they have not yet 
changed on Music Doc to reflect the channel change on XM.  Is there anything we 
can do to get that changed so we are getting the right channel on MusicDoc?

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


Glad to help.  Let me know if I can help you any further with it.

Chris.

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  From: Krysti .Power 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


  Thanks Chris

  On Saturday, September 29, 2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

It does, yes, fairly decently, but, may I please make a suggestion to 
make your life way easier?  Get an app from the app store called Musicdock.

That's all one word smished together.  Think Music Dock, only run the 
two words together.  It's free, don't worry.  I mean, ok, obviously you'll have 
to have a Sirius XM Radio subscription, which you gotta pay for, but you 
probably know that already.

I'd highly highly recommend it!  I use it all the time.  I mean, ok, 
the native app works just fine, but I find the screen ever? so slightly 
cluttered.  I just find the interface way less sloppy in Musicdock, but again, 
that's me, don't take it as gospel.

Chris.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:55 PM
  Subject: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


  Does it work with vo 

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Re: It Seems to Be a Hoax, Was Re: another Facebook change

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Teresa,

thanks for checking this out.  I always expect the worst from FB when it comes 
to users' privacy, so it didn't set off any alarms at all.  Sorry all for the 
false alarm.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 29, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Here's more info:
> http://www.snopes.com/computer/facebook/privatemessages.asp
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Can you post a link to more info about this? I can't help thinking it sounds 
>> like one of those viral hoaxes that go around getting folks stirred up.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 6:07 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Please excuse the cross-post, but I thought everyone would like to know 
>>> this.
>>> 
>>> Apparently Facebook is messing around with people's privacy settings yet 
>>> again.  Now all of your private messages sent prior to 2010 are visible to 
>>> all, as someone put it on FB, they just look like regular wall posts.  the 
>>> only instructions I've seen so far to hide these messages are for sighted 
>>> users, but generally, you have to go into your timeline, go to years 2007, 
>>> 2008, 2009, and hide each year's messages.  Not quite sure how we're 
>>> supposed to do this, if I learn more I'll post.  This may be just obnoxious 
>>> enough to get me to leave Facebook.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna 
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Re: iPad

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Francis" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so there 
is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and 
how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. 
I hope this helps.


Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: go 
to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From there, 
use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that might 
help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many tutorials 
and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for voiceover.

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes  wrote:

Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and 
needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John


Cakes

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Re: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

That's ridiculous!  VM or not, Bootcamp or not, you're not trying to support 
the O S, or the hardware, you're supporting your screen reader, and as long 
as the damn thing runs...  Hoy... I yi yi!


What more reason I won't touch jfw with a 5000 foot poll.  For me, it's 
either Window-Eyes, prefered, or NVDA, and even then, I'd rather not use 
Windows period, but I kind a got no choice with my job in place.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS


Hi,

True.  But, for what ever reason, that is the line they want to take.  But I 
agree, I wouldn't even mention I'm running it on Mac hardware or, that I'm 
using a VM.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

i run Windows 7 with VMWare Fusion on my Mac, and JAWS works fine.  Why 
would FS´s official line be that they do not support it, since it is still 
on Windows?  Why should the hardware matter to them?  It should only be a 
software issue to them.  I called them the other day with a question and 
just pretended I had a PC, and, of course, they didn't know the 
difference.


Thanks,

Harry

On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, John Sanfilippo  
wrote:


I think the thing to keep in mind is that FS says they will not support 
Jaws running on a Mac. I'm running VIsta on my Mac. I don't think you'll 
have any problem running win7, but who knows.


John S


- Original Message -
From: Phil Halton
To: Macvisionaries
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:26 PM
Subject: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS

Skirting towards off-topic here, but I just got off the phone with 
FreedomScientific sales and was told that JAWS doesn't work with Mac. Did 
I get one of their famously clueless reps, or will I have a problem 
running Jaws 12 64-bit on a bootcamp installation of windows 7 64-bit 
home premium?


If so, what screen reader works well with bootcamped versions of windows7 
home premium?


Finally, will someone who has done the bootcamp thing PLEASE tell me if 
I'll need a wired mouse for the windows install? I have a wired apple 
keyboard, and a wireless trackpad but no mouse, neither wired or 
wireless, but I'll get one if needed.


thanks


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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Ray,

To the best of my knowledge, 32 bit was dropped in Lion, so I think if you're 
on M L, you're most likely definitely on 64 bit.  It doesn't show, as there's 
no need to, seeing it's gonna be 64 round about.  Please, someone correct me 
should I be incorrect.  I'm willing to stand corrected.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:05 AM
  Subject: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?


  Okay,


  This is weird.  Under Mountain Lion, I can't seem to read whether or not I'm 
running 32 or 64 bit.  OF course, I clicked on About this Mac, and then pressed 
the more info button.  It's not really important; but, it sort of bugs me a 
little.  Anybody figured out where it is yet?




  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!


  Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!


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Re: Rogue Amoeba 10th Anniversary Sale today

[Chris]

Airfoil allows you to wirelessly transmit audio around your home or 
office. The minimum is a machine running Airfoil and another machine 
running Airfoil Speakers. Airfoil however supports Airport Express and 
other compatible devices, Airplay features in iOS, Apple TV, and so on.


On 30/09/2012 21:30, Les Kriegler wrote:

I've seen reference to AirFoil.  What does it do and what equipment does one 
need to use it?  Thanks.

Les
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Esther  wrote:


Hi All,

In honor of Rogue Amoeba's 10th Anniversary, all products on their web site 
that are purchased today (September 30) have a $10 savings.  Airfoil for either 
Mac or Windows is $15 instead of $25, and if you want their combined Airfoil 
bundle for both platforms it's $30 instead of $40. Audio Hijack Pro is $22 
instead of $32. Fission is $22 instead of $32, and if you want to buy the Audio 
Hijack Pro + Fission bundle, it's $40 instead of $50.  Nicecast for 
broadcasting your music is $49 instead of $59, and Piezo, a very simple 
recording app, is $5 instead of $15.

The Rogue Amoeba web page for the sale is:
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/store/deals/TenthAnniversary.php

However, you can just go to the main web site, and today any of the items you 
purchase will have the $10 discount applied, whether you use the above link or 
the regular web page links from:

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/

HTH.  I've listed the prices because on the sale web page I hear VoiceOver 
announce all the items as a price drop from $25 to $5, which is not correct.  
Also, on the check out page, by default the first radio button (for credit 
cards) will be selected.  If you want to use Paypal, switch this to the second 
radio button.   The sale is good for another 8+ hours.

Cheers,

Esther


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Re: help with nicecast

[Chris]

Ok so if I use the built in server does that broadcast across the 
internet or will I still have to do some port forwarding.


On 30/09/2012 20:21, Timothy Clark Music wrote:

hello -
  you can broadcast using either your own bandwidth from your internet.
  so you would be using the built in server or you could set up a server
with shout cast, ichacast, or live365.
  hope this helps
God Bless.
  Timothy.
  Your friend in the music industry
http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
  7244011224

On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Chris wrote:


Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the
10th birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I
do with it? It says I can create my own internet radio station. If
that is the case do I need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I
mean just imagine broadcasting my music collection to the internet smile.
Thanks for any comments on this.

On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hello list,

I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac.  When I try
to listen to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear
anything although, I know music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using
an airport express for my router.  Any help would be appreciated.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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Re: how to tell if running 64 bit under ML?

[Mark Baxter]

Wouldn't you just to go "about this Mac," and it should tell you your processor 
type, and then go look that up on Google?  If it's 64-bit capable, and you're 
running newest latest softest warmest kitty, you're running a 64-bit system.


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System Voice Rate Issues

[Gavin Grundlingh]

Hi all,

I'm having a problem with the rate of the system voice. I went to set my rate 
in System preferences under Dictation and Speech, then set certain apps to 
automatically speak events. In Skype, my rate is honoured, but in Messages and 
Growl, it seems to use the default rate, which is extremely slow. Why is this? 
Is there a way to rectify it?

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
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Re: help with nicecast

[Timothy Clark Music]

it only goes to the server at your house. 
 i believe you can send a public address it would then go to those who are able 
to connect. 
 you should use http://www.listen2myradio.com for streaming. 
 it's free. 
 use shoultcast and set it up. 
 then you can give everyone your listen2myradio link and they can tune in. 
 you can get 5thousand listeners for free. you will have to pay if you want 
more. 
 they are really good. I use to use them back when I ran a small station but 
that's another story for another time. I never had to pay a thing. just be sure 
when you are done streaming to go into it and turn off your listen2myradio 
server or you will have to reset it meaning you will have to reconfigure nice 
cast again. 
 hope this helps
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Chris wrote:

> Ok so if I use the built in server does that broadcast across the internet or 
> will I still have to do some port forwarding.
> 
> On 30/09/2012 20:21, Timothy Clark Music wrote:
>> hello -
>>  you can broadcast using either your own bandwidth from your internet.
>>  so you would be using the built in server or you could set up a server
>> with shout cast, ichacast, or live365.
>>  hope this helps
>> God Bless.
>>  Timothy.
>>  Your friend in the music industry
>> http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
>>  7244011224
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the
>>> 10th birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I
>>> do with it? It says I can create my own internet radio station. If
>>> that is the case do I need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I
>>> mean just imagine broadcasting my music collection to the internet smile.
>>> Thanks for any comments on this.
>>> 
>>> On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac.  When I try
 to listen to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear
 anything although, I know music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using
 an airport express for my router.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info 
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info 
 
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Safari Books Online

[Paul Hunt]

I'm also interested in learning CoCo. What is the URL for Safari Books Online? 
What formats does Safari use for the books? Thanks so much.

On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:15 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Download Xcode from the app store.  It's a complete IDE for the Mac, which is 
> completely free.  And, based on preliminary usage, it works well with 
> VoiceOver.  
> 
> There are free online tutorials available for learning to code, using coco, 
> C++, etc.  However, the best bet seems to be signing up for a subscription to 
> Safari Books Online.  They've got a massive collection of technical books for 
> Mac, Windows, Etc, Etc.  There are various books on the subject of Xcode.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> HI all (and particularly Esther, as I have a feeling you may hold the 
>> answers to these questions),
>> 
>> I'd like to try and understand a little about basic programming on the Mac. 
>> I'd like to see if I could develop some very simple little apps. I would, of 
>> course, want them to be accessible with VoiceOver. In fact, this would be my 
>> top priority.
>> 
>> I've heard that programming in the Mac's native cocoa language is best in 
>> terms of VoiceOver accessibility.
>> 
>> So, my questions are:
>> 
>> 1. Does anyone know of a good resource for learning the basics of cocoa, 
>> particularly any that provide a VO accessibility point of view?
>> and
>> 2. Are there any apps that can be used to develop apps in cocoa which are 
>> accessible with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Many thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Nic
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Re: formatting Text in Pages

[Christopher Edwards]

Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to 
my house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.


I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making text 
bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and tiring 
day. I will therefore give a very specific example.


I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with 
the various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting 
bar and choose the paragraph style button.


Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me 
the style and confirmed that it had been applied.


Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
previously entered. I simply got a "dong" sound when moving either the VO 
cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
would not move any further than the header section of the document. We tried 
doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to no avail.


I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is wrong 
so please can anyone tell me what it is?


Once again, many thanks,

Chris Edwards


- Original Message - 
From: "Eugenia Firth" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: formatting Text in Pages


Hi there
Once you select the words you want to bold command B  should do it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Christopher Edwards 
 wrote:



Hello,

I recently bought pages and am gradually finding my way around. I am 
running it on a 2012 MBP under ML.


When I was at a training session at my local Apple store yesterday I came 
across a problem which the trainer and I were not able to solve.


I typed some text into the body of the document and then selected two 
words so that I could format them as Bold. As soon as I moved back to the 
Formatting Bar using the VO and arrow keys the text became unselected. I 
did of course have to stop interacting with the various parts of the 
document as I moved backwards. Then, when I moved forwards again the 
cursor with the focus stayed in the Header area. I closed the document 
without saving and started over again creating a new document and the same 
thing happened.


Although the trainer was not very familiar with Voiceover he did a lot of 
researching on another machine but we could not find an answer. I am sure 
the answer is something simple like cursor tracking but nothing I tried 
worked.


If anyone can tell me what I was doing wrong I would be very grateful.

Many thanks,

Chris


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Re: formatting Text in Pages

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Chris.
It sounds like you should be interacting with the body of the text, and maybe 
you interacted with the heading. I gather you are in Mountain Lion. I had more 
trouble with Lion with Pages. 

Also, when you want to find items sometimes the item chooser is your best bet. 
Try typing control option i and down arrow through the list. 

If you just want to italicize text or make text bold, you can select the text 
you want and then press command b for bold and command i for italics. There are 
some more direct commands that would not require you to go to the menu. Anne is 
our Pages expert on this list. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
> but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to my 
> house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.
> 
> I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making text 
> bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and tiring 
> day. I will therefore give a very specific example.
> 
> I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with the 
> various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting bar and 
> choose the paragraph style button.
> 
> Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
> absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me the 
> style and confirmed that it had been applied.
> 
> Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
> parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
> previously entered. I simply got a "dong" sound when moving either the VO 
> cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
> would not move any further than the header section of the document. We tried 
> doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to no avail.
> 
> I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
> they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is wrong 
> so please can anyone tell me what it is?
> 
> Once again, many thanks,
> 
> Chris Edwards
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: formatting Text in Pages
> 
> 
> Hi there
> Once you select the words you want to bold command B  should do it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Christopher Edwards 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I recently bought pages and am gradually finding my way around. I am running 
>> it on a 2012 MBP under ML.
>> 
>> When I was at a training session at my local Apple store yesterday I came 
>> across a problem which the trainer and I were not able to solve.
>> 
>> I typed some text into the body of the document and then selected two words 
>> so that I could format them as Bold. As soon as I moved back to the 
>> Formatting Bar using the VO and arrow keys the text became unselected. I did 
>> of course have to stop interacting with the various parts of the document as 
>> I moved backwards. Then, when I moved forwards again the cursor with the 
>> focus stayed in the Header area. I closed the document without saving and 
>> started over again creating a new document and the same thing happened.
>> 
>> Although the trainer was not very familiar with Voiceover he did a lot of 
>> researching on another machine but we could not find an answer. I am sure 
>> the answer is something simple like cursor tracking but nothing I tried 
>> worked.
>> 
>> If anyone can tell me what I was doing wrong I would be very grateful.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> Chris
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Re: the ram manager again. Some progress.

[Mike Arrigo]

Programs such as onyx and cocktail also have these features.
On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hello all.
> Following up on my previous post regarding an accessible ram manager for the 
> Mac, I came across a free tiny utility called purge.
> This little gem has absolutely no interface what so ever. You just run it, it 
> does it's thing, and you have lots of free RAM once again. Seeing as there is 
> no interface, there is there fore no accessibility issues with it.
> It now has a place in my dock.
> If you want to find it, do a google search for purge for Mac. I got my copy 
> from macupdate.com.
> Hope this helps someone.
> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: protected pdf

[Esther]

Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,

I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on Kobo 
ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries that 
use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console app on 
an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading eBooks is 
much better in the Kobo iOS app.)

Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it with 
a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free Take 
Control PDFs.  

I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
the latest version:
http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html

The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read by 
paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
same features as the Mac versions did.

I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books with 
Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just loaded, 
so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for leisure 
reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better navigation options 
supported.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the Mac?
> 
> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
>> $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
>> 
>> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
>>> actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on my 
>>> iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
>>> What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
>>> is that right?
>>> I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Lisette
>>> 

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Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad

[David Tanner]

Ok, I admit I haven't used the app for 6 months or more, but the last I used it 
you couldn't get out of one channel and go to another channel using VoiceOver.  
Has that changed.  Finding the first channel went fine, but there was no 
accessible way to change channels.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


  May I say something without sounding very rude, as I tend to normally do?  

  How much effort really did your friend put into it?  Second of all, no 
offense but are you basing this opinion on that of what your friend said, or 
that on what you personally yourself has seen?  I totally totally agree with 
you that the app isn't very good, not at all, but come on, it's not that! bad.  
I agree, I'd not use it... I'd use Musicdock instead, but it's not that bad.  I 
still can browse genres, and the different channels, and get them to play.  
It's definitely a bit clunky, in your defense, I definitely'll give ya that, 
but it can be done.

  Also, again, this is only an opinion, not a fact, so take it as such, but I 
completely disagree with what you said on the quality of music.  There have 
been things on XM I've heard, that I'd never dream of hearing on regular FM 
radio.  I may hear it on fm radio, but, not necessarily.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Pam Francis 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


Matt please ask a question? Since when did Sirius XM app become accessible 
at thing has always been a piece of junk. I had a friend who told me that he 
could get around it a little easier, however it still was not quality that it 
should've been. I dump Sirius XM primarily because their app was so crappy. I 
find I'm able to get the same quality of music on the radio on the Internet for 
free

Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:21 PM, "David Tanner"  
wrote:


I have the MusicDoc software and really like it, but I have noticed 
justrecently that some of the channels have changed and they have not yet 
changed on Music Doc to reflect the channel change on XM.  Is there anything we 
can do to get that changed so we are getting the right channel on MusicDoc?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


  Glad to help.  Let me know if I can help you any further with it.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Krysti .Power 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


Thanks Chris

On Saturday, September 29, 2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

  It does, yes, fairly decently, but, may I please make a suggestion to 
make your life way easier?  Get an app from the app store called Musicdock.

  That's all one word smished together.  Think Music Dock, only run the 
two words together.  It's free, don't worry.  I mean, ok, obviously you'll have 
to have a Sirius XM Radio subscription, which you gotta pay for, but you 
probably know that already.

  I'd highly highly recommend it!  I use it all the time.  I mean, ok, 
the native app works just fine, but I find the screen ever? so slightly 
cluttered.  I just find the interface way less sloppy in Musicdock, but again, 
that's me, don't take it as gospel.

  Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Sirus XM app iPod iPad


Does it work with vo 

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Re: protected pdf

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi Esther
My problem is knowing how to get the pdf into my kobo app on my iPhone. The 
epub books just sync automatically, but the pdf doesn't appear to. Any ideas?
Lisette

On 1/10/2012, at 1:28 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
> 
> I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
> Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
> library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries 
> that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console 
> app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading 
> eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
> 
> Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
> with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
> Take Control PDFs.  
> 
> I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
> mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
> the latest version:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
> 
> The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
> by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
> VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
> that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
> earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
> same features as the Mac versions did.
> 
> I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
> with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
> loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
> leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
> navigation options supported.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> 
>> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
>> Mac?
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
>>> $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
>>> 
>>> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all
 I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
 actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
 my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
 What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
 is that right?
 I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
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Re: iPad

[Hank Smith]

just hit the home button 3 times
On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Pam Francis" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing 
with iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David 
Woodbridge.  If you go through there podcasts section, you will find 
your share of podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David 
Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.


Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it 
on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on 
applevis.com that might help. Googling specific questions will also 
help as there are many tutorials and articles out there, plus the 
official Apple documentation for voiceover.

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes  wrote:

Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John


Cakes

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Re: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS

[Hank Smith]

thats why u tell them u are running it on a pc.
what they don't know won't hurt them.
On 9/30/2012 2:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
That's ridiculous!  VM or not, Bootcamp or not, you're not trying to 
support the O S, or the hardware, you're supporting your screen 
reader, and as long as the damn thing runs...  Hoy... I yi yi!


What more reason I won't touch jfw with a 5000 foot poll.  For me, 
it's either Window-Eyes, prefered, or NVDA, and even then, I'd rather 
not use Windows period, but I kind a got no choice with my job in place.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS


Hi,

True.  But, for what ever reason, that is the line they want to take.  
But I agree, I wouldn't even mention I'm running it on Mac hardware 
or, that I'm using a VM.


Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

i run Windows 7 with VMWare Fusion on my Mac, and JAWS works fine.  
Why would FS´s official line be that they do not support it, since it 
is still on Windows?  Why should the hardware matter to them?  It 
should only be a software issue to them.  I called them the other day 
with a question and just pretended I had a PC, and, of course, they 
didn't know the difference.


Thanks,

Harry

On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, John Sanfilippo  
wrote:


I think the thing to keep in mind is that FS says they will not 
support Jaws running on a Mac. I'm running VIsta on my Mac. I don't 
think you'll have any problem running win7, but who knows.


John S


- Original Message -
From: Phil Halton
To: Macvisionaries
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:26 PM
Subject: Windows7 bootcamp and JAWS

Skirting towards off-topic here, but I just got off the phone with 
FreedomScientific sales and was told that JAWS doesn't work with 
Mac. Did I get one of their famously clueless reps, or will I have a 
problem running Jaws 12 64-bit on a bootcamp installation of windows 
7 64-bit home premium?


If so, what screen reader works well with bootcamped versions of 
windows7 home premium?


Finally, will someone who has done the bootcamp thing PLEASE tell me 
if I'll need a wired mouse for the windows install? I have a wired 
apple keyboard, and a wireless trackpad but no mouse, neither wired 
or wireless, but I'll get one if needed.


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Re: help with nicecast

[Hank Smith]

if u are running the server locally then most likely u will have to 
forward ports

its usually ports
8000 and 8001
On 9/30/2012 2:39 PM, Chris wrote:
Ok so if I use the built in server does that broadcast across the 
internet or will I still have to do some port forwarding.


On 30/09/2012 20:21, Timothy Clark Music wrote:

hello -
  you can broadcast using either your own bandwidth from your internet.
  so you would be using the built in server or you could set up a server
with shout cast, ichacast, or live365.
  hope this helps
God Bless.
  Timothy.
  Your friend in the music industry
http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
  7244011224

On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Chris wrote:


Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the
10th birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I
do with it? It says I can create my own internet radio station. If
that is the case do I need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I
mean just imagine broadcasting my music collection to the internet 
smile.

Thanks for any comments on this.

On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hello list,

I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac. When I try
to listen to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear
anything although, I know music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using
an airport express for my router.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Safari Books Online

[CJ Daniel]

Paul,

I think it is www.safaribooksonline.com.  Or, it might be www.safaribooks.com.  
Anyway, they've got a 10-day free trial.  After that, the basic subscription is 
$19 a month.  That might seem a bit expensive, but I love the access to so much 
technical information.

There are several formats available.  I've had the most success with their 
HTML.  You search for titles, add the one you want to your bookshelf, open it & 
move through the table of contents, & jump to the web content for each chapter.

Hope this helps,

CJ


On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:

> I'm also interested in learning CoCo. What is the URL for Safari Books 
> Online? What formats does Safari use for the books? Thanks so much.
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:15 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Download Xcode from the app store.  It's a complete IDE for the Mac, which 
>> is completely free.  And, based on preliminary usage, it works well with 
>> VoiceOver.  
>> 
>> There are free online tutorials available for learning to code, using coco, 
>> C++, etc.  However, the best bet seems to be signing up for a subscription 
>> to Safari Books Online.  They've got a massive collection of technical books 
>> for Mac, Windows, Etc, Etc.  There are various books on the subject of Xcode.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI all (and particularly Esther, as I have a feeling you may hold the 
>>> answers to these questions),
>>> 
>>> I'd like to try and understand a little about basic programming on the Mac. 
>>> I'd like to see if I could develop some very simple little apps. I would, 
>>> of course, want them to be accessible with VoiceOver. In fact, this would 
>>> be my top priority.
>>> 
>>> I've heard that programming in the Mac's native cocoa language is best in 
>>> terms of VoiceOver accessibility.
>>> 
>>> So, my questions are:
>>> 
>>> 1. Does anyone know of a good resource for learning the basics of cocoa, 
>>> particularly any that provide a VO accessibility point of view?
>>> and
>>> 2. Are there any apps that can be used to develop apps in cocoa which are 
>>> accessible with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> Nic
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Re: protected pdf

[Cheryl Homiak]

Have you gone to the Kobo website and made sure that this is only available as 
a pdf? I seem to remember that some books had more than one download option and 
once you buy the book you can download it in any format. Also, have you tried 
opening your library on the device you are trying to get the book onto and 
seeing if it just needs to be downloaded?



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On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi Esther
> My problem is knowing how to get the pdf into my kobo app on my iPhone. The 
> epub books just sync automatically, but the pdf doesn't appear to. Any ideas?
> Lisette
> 
> On 1/10/2012, at 1:28 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
>> 
>> I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
>> Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works 
>> on library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from 
>> libraries that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive 
>> Media Console app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the 
>> experience of reading eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
>> 
>> Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
>> with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
>> Take Control PDFs.  
>> 
>> I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on 
>> the mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version 
>> performs in the latest version:
>> http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
>> 
>> The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
>> by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
>> VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
>> that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
>> earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had 
>> the same features as the Mac versions did.
>> 
>> I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
>> with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
>> loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
>> leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
>> navigation options supported.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
>> 
>>> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
>>> Mac?
>>> 
>>> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
 $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
 
 Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
  wrote:
 
> Hi all
> I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
> actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
> my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
> What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
> is that right?
> I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
> 
> Cheers
> Lisette
> 
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Re: protected pdf

[Cheryl Homiak]

Btw I put all of those drm-free take control pdfs through calibre and they 
convert to text with no problem.
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On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
> 
> I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
> Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
> library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries 
> that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console 
> app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading 
> eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
> 
> Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
> with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
> Take Control PDFs.  
> 
> I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
> mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
> the latest version:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
> 
> The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
> by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
> VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
> that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
> earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
> same features as the Mac versions did.
> 
> I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
> with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
> loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
> leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
> navigation options supported.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> 
>> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
>> Mac?
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
>>> $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
>>> 
>>> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all
 I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
 actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
 my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
 What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
 is that right?
 I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
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Remove spotlight bar

[Agent086b]

Hello all,
is it possible to not have the Spotlight bar always on the screen? 
Also if I can't get rid of that bar until it is needed. Can I stop it 
displaying the text VO has just read?
My wife finds this confusing when she is helping me with a problem.
Thanks
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Re: braille display

[Kristyn Leigh]

The Braille Edge 40-cell display from Hims is another competitive option. 
On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Becky Knaub  wrote:

> Hi,
> A focus 40 Blue will work with IOS Mac and Windows w/ JAWS. HTH
> 
> Becky and Ceil
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Marianne Denning  wrote:
> 
>> This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
>> purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
>> has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
>> using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
>> is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
>> too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
>> Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
>> too.
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Re: iPad

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

As far as I know, you must first set up the "Triple-click Home" to "Toggle 
VoiceOver" before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the box 
will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As mentioned 
earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access options through 
iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be set.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith  wrote:

> just hit the home button 3 times
> On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
>> home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
>> ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
>> settings/accessibility/voiceover.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Pam Francis" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: iPad
>> 
>> 
>> Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so there 
>> is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
>> visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and 
>> how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
>> podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
>> software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: go 
>> to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From there, 
>> use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that might 
>> help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many tutorials 
>> and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for voiceover.
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and 
>>> needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
>>> 
>>> Cakes
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Re: Remove spotlight bar

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When in the Finder, press cmd-space to toggle Spotlight on and off.

Later...

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On 2012-09-30, at 9:36 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hello all,
> is it possible to not have the Spotlight bar always on the screen? 
> Also if I can't get rid of that bar until it is needed. Can I stop it 
> displaying the text VO has just read?
> My wife finds this confusing when she is helping me with a problem.
> Thanks
> Max.
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Re: iPad

[Hank Smith]

they changed that in ios5

On 9/30/2012 9:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

As far as I know, you must first set up the "Triple-click Home" to 
"Toggle VoiceOver" before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the 
default lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure 
the Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
Triple-Click toggle can be set.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith > wrote:



just hit the home button 3 times
On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard 
tapping settings/accessibility/voiceover.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Pam Francis" >
To: >

Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if 
so there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com 
 who works primarily with visually impaired and has 
done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and how voiceover 
works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to 
Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.


Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:


Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn 
it on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers 
on applevis.com  that might help. Googling 
specific questions will also help as there are many tutorials and 
articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for voiceover.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes > wrote:


Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad 
one and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so 
much, John


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Re: iPad

[Steve Holmes]

I thought I heard that too but I tried it recently on an iPhone 4S and it did 
not work there.  I don't know its upgrade history, nor was I aware of what mode 
the phone was in at that moment.  I was shown the phone in a case and I thought 
I'd be smart and see if VO would turn on with triple click home and nothing.  I 
think if I were buying a device right now, I would want to have someone look 
over my shoulder or fire up iTunes for the first time to check out the 
landscape as it were.

On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Hank Smith  wrote:

> they changed that in ios5
> 
> On 9/30/2012 9:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As far as I know, you must first set up the "Triple-click Home" to "Toggle 
>> VoiceOver" before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the 
>> box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
>> mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
>> options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be 
>> set.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith  wrote:
>> 
>>> just hit the home button 3 times
>>> On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Pam Francis" 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily 
 with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS 
 software and how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go 
 through there podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts 
 relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
 podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: 
 go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
 there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
 that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are 
 many tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple 
 documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes  wrote:
 
> Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and 
> needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
> 
> Cakes
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Re: Safari Books Online

[Cheree Heppe]

Cheree Heppe here:

I tried them because my agency is offering the books as  enrichment and career 
enhancement materials.

I had no luck reading those books on an IOS device.  Either I got it really 
wrong or they aren't accessible to any significant degree.

Whatdid you say was your work-around?


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


- Original Message - 
From: "CJ Daniel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 20:10
Subject: Re: Safari Books Online


Paul,

I think it is www.safaribooksonline.com.  Or, it might be www.safaribooks.com.  
Anyway, they've got a 10-day free trial.  After that, the basic subscription is 
$19 a month.  That might seem a bit expensive, but I love the access to so much 
technical information.

There are several formats available.  I've had the most success with their 
HTML.  You search for titles, add the one you want to your bookshelf, open it & 
move through the table of contents, & jump to the web content for each chapter.

Hope this helps,

CJ


On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:

> I'm also interested in learning CoCo. What is the URL for Safari Books 
> Online? What formats does Safari use for the books? Thanks so much.
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:15 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Download Xcode from the app store.  It's a complete IDE for the Mac, which 
>> is completely free.  And, based on preliminary usage, it works well with 
>> VoiceOver.  
>> 
>> There are free online tutorials available for learning to code, using coco, 
>> C++, etc.  However, the best bet seems to be signing up for a subscription 
>> to Safari Books Online.  They've got a massive collection of technical books 
>> for Mac, Windows, Etc, Etc.  There are various books on the subject of Xcode.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI all (and particularly Esther, as I have a feeling you may hold the 
>>> answers to these questions),
>>> 
>>> I'd like to try and understand a little about basic programming on the Mac. 
>>> I'd like to see if I could develop some very simple little apps. I would, 
>>> of course, want them to be accessible with VoiceOver. In fact, this would 
>>> be my top priority.
>>> 
>>> I've heard that programming in the Mac's native cocoa language is best in 
>>> terms of VoiceOver accessibility.
>>> 
>>> So, my questions are:
>>> 
>>> 1. Does anyone know of a good resource for learning the basics of cocoa, 
>>> particularly any that provide a VO accessibility point of view?
>>> and
>>> 2. Are there any apps that can be used to develop apps in cocoa which are 
>>> accessible with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> Nic
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Re: Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

[Esther]

Hi Teresa,

I remember sending you this information about some scripts that Jonathan Chacôn 
wrote for Calbre.  At the time (back in April) I couldn't get to the blog site 
links, and thought they might have been permanently taken down, but the URLs 
all seem to be working now.  I think that working in the command line for 
Calibre is fine, but these might be of interest to someone.   (Like most 
things, I found the original information in the archives for the macvisionaries 
list).

Hi Teresa,

I think you'll have the best luck doing the ePub conversion with Pages, as Mark 
suggests.  I'll just mention that Jonathan Chacón did construct a service to 
convert TXT, RTF, PDF and HTML format eBooks to ePub using scripts to run 
Calibre in command line, and made it available at his web log site in August 
2010.  The web page was:
http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897
There were headings in Spanish and English:
• "Servicio accesible de conversión a ePub para MacOS X"
• "accessible ePub conversion service for MacOS X"
This was the direct download link for the zip file on that page:
http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/archivos/id38/textConversionService.zip

The problem is that this web site doesn't seem to be on-line currently, and 
hasn't been when I tried it a few times recently.  Jonathan has a new web site 
that is accessed by his free iPhone RSS app (in Spanish), "Programar a ciegas 
RSS" by Tyflos Accessible Software.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 30, 2012, at 06:18, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> hi, all,
> 
> I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of 
> Calibre to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are 
> many work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
> interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, 
> it doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, 
> command-line isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would 
> be beneficial, if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble 
> project, but perhaps something can be done to improve accessibility for this 
> very useful application.
> 
> Teresa
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Re: Remove spotlight bar

[Agent086b]

Hi, that appears to me to only put you in or out of the Spotlight bar. Or do I 
have that wrong.
Thanks
Max.
On 01/10/2012, at 2:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When in the Finder, press cmd-space to toggle Spotlight on and off.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-09-30, at 9:36 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> is it possible to not have the Spotlight bar always on the screen? 
>> Also if I can't get rid of that bar until it is needed. Can I stop it 
>> displaying the text VO has just read?
>> My wife finds this confusing when she is helping me with a problem.
>> Thanks
>> Max.
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Re: Remove spotlight bar

[Esther]

Hi,

When you toggle out of  Spotlight with Command-space it will also no longer 
display the text that VoiceOver has just read, which is what I believe you 
asked for.  The only other way to clear this and still have Spotlight active is 
to delete your search terms (e.g. select all with Command-a, then press delete 
while in the Spotlight search field).

Cheers,

Esther
 
On Sep 30, 2012, at 18:25, Agent086b wrote:

> Hi, that appears to me to only put you in or out of the Spotlight bar. Or do 
> I have that wrong.
> Thanks
> Max.
> On 01/10/2012, at 2:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in the Finder, press cmd-space to toggle Spotlight on and off.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-09-30, at 9:36 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> is it possible to not have the Spotlight bar always on the screen? 
>>> Also if I can't get rid of that bar until it is needed. Can I stop it 
>>> displaying the text VO has just read?
>>> My wife finds this confusing when she is helping me with a problem.
>>> Thanks
>>> Max.
>>> 

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Reading Epub Books on the Mac

[Steve Holmes]

This may have been asked before but I don't recall answers just now.  I'm 
wondering if there are any apps for the Mac to read epub books ala iBooks 
fashion? Sure Ibooks is fine on the iPod but when I'm home in front of my mac, 
I would like to be able to read them there instead without altering format or 
any of that.  The ultimate solution would be to have a version of iBooks for 
the Mac; I don't think that exists.

Are there any other solutions? How about iBooks Author? can that be used to 
read epub material as well as prepare it?

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Re: Remove spotlight bar

[Agent086b]

Thanks, I did not understand after leaving Spotlight that would stop the text 
being displayed.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Max.
On 01/10/2012, at 2:41 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When you toggle out of  Spotlight with Command-space it will also no longer 
> display the text that VoiceOver has just read, which is what I believe you 
> asked for.  The only other way to clear this and still have Spotlight active 
> is to delete your search terms (e.g. select all with Command-a, then press 
> delete while in the Spotlight search field).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
>  
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 18:25, Agent086b wrote:
> 
>> Hi, that appears to me to only put you in or out of the Spotlight bar. Or do 
>> I have that wrong.
>> Thanks
>> Max.
>> On 01/10/2012, at 2:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When in the Finder, press cmd-space to toggle Spotlight on and off.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-09-30, at 9:36 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 is it possible to not have the Spotlight bar always on the screen? 
 Also if I can't get rid of that bar until it is needed. Can I stop it 
 displaying the text VO has just read?
 My wife finds this confusing when she is helping me with a problem.
 Thanks
 Max.
 
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Found how to fix the Spotlightbar

[Agent086b]

Hi all, I solved the Spotlight bar problem.
All I needed was to turn off Captions in VO. Now the Spotlight bar is gone 
until I want it.
Thanks again for the help.
Max.
Thanks again.
Max.

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Re: formatting Text in Pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Chris,

In Pages, leaving the text area using VO removes the selection so you can't 
apply a style. You have to set a hotkey for the style you want and just press 
it in the paragraph to which it should apply.

You can check on what style is in operation by setting a hotspot on the Styles 
drawer. To do this, open the Styles drawer with Cmd-Shift-t, navigate to it, 
make sure that you're not interacting with it and set a hotspot. You can then 
use VO-Cmd-hotspot to discover what is selected in the Styles drawer.

If you can't navigate within any text area, go there with VO, bring the mouse 
and click.

There is a lot more than that to using Pages but it should help to get you 
started.

Cheers,

Anne


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wrote:

> Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
> but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to my 
> house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.
> 
> I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making text 
> bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and tiring 
> day. I will therefore give a very specific example.
> 
> I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with the 
> various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting bar and 
> choose the paragraph style button.
> 
> Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
> absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me the 
> style and confirmed that it had been applied.
> 
> Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
> parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
> previously entered. I simply got a "dong" sound when moving either the VO 
> cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
> would not move any further than the header section of the document. We tried 
> doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to no avail.
> 
> I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
> they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is wrong 
> so please can anyone tell me what it is?
> 
> Once again, many thanks,
> 
> Chris Edwards
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Re: formatting Text in Pages

[Maria Chapman]

Hi.  not sure i quite understand these instructions. I haven't done much with 
hot
Can someone explain to me how to go pick a style and then set a hot key so it 
can be applied to text in pages?

thanks

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> Hello Chris,
> 
> In Pages, leaving the text area using VO removes the selection so you can't 
> apply a style. You have to set a hotkey for the style you want and just press 
> it in the paragraph to which it should apply.
> 
> You can check on what style is in operation by setting a hotspot on the 
> Styles drawer. To do this, open the Styles drawer with Cmd-Shift-t, navigate 
> to it, make sure that you're not interacting with it and set a hotspot. You 
> can then use VO-Cmd-hotspot to discover what is selected in the Styles drawer.
> 
> If you can't navigate within any text area, go there with VO, bring the mouse 
> and click.
> 
> There is a lot more than that to using Pages but it should help to get you 
> started.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 1 Oct 2012, at 01:00, Christopher Edwards  
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
>> but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to 
>> my house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.
>> 
>> I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making text 
>> bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and tiring 
>> day. I will therefore give a very specific example.
>> 
>> I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with 
>> the various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting 
>> bar and choose the paragraph style button.
>> 
>> Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
>> absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me 
>> the style and confirmed that it had been applied.
>> 
>> Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
>> parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
>> previously entered. I simply got a "dong" sound when moving either the VO 
>> cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
>> would not move any further than the header section of the document. We tried 
>> doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to no avail.
>> 
>> I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
>> they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is wrong 
>> so please can anyone tell me what it is?
>> 
>> Once again, many thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Edwards
>> 
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Re: Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks, Esther. I'll give that a shot.

I'm wondering now if there is a way to get the various plugins for Calibre 
through the command-line. The GUI interface doesn't allow VO to read the 
advanced preferences.

Thanks,
Teresa

On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> 
> I remember sending you this information about some scripts that Jonathan 
> Chacôn wrote for Calbre.  At the time (back in April) I couldn't get to the 
> blog site links, and thought they might have been permanently taken down, but 
> the URLs all seem to be working now.  I think that working in the command 
> line for Calibre is fine, but these might be of interest to someone.   (Like 
> most things, I found the original information in the archives for the 
> macvisionaries list).
> 
> Hi Teresa,
> 
> I think you'll have the best luck doing the ePub conversion with Pages, as 
> Mark suggests.  I'll just mention that Jonathan Chacón did construct a 
> service to convert TXT, RTF, PDF and HTML format eBooks to ePub using scripts 
> to run Calibre in command line, and made it available at his web log site in 
> August 2010.  The web page was:
> http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897
> There were headings in Spanish and English:
> • "Servicio accesible de conversión a ePub para MacOS X"
> • "accessible ePub conversion service for MacOS X"
> This was the direct download link for the zip file on that page:
> http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/archivos/id38/textConversionService.zip
> 
> The problem is that this web site doesn't seem to be on-line currently, and 
> hasn't been when I tried it a few times recently.  Jonathan has a new web 
> site that is accessed by his free iPhone RSS app (in Spanish), "Programar a 
> ciegas RSS" by Tyflos Accessible Software.
> 
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 06:18, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> hi, all,
>> 
>> I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of 
>> Calibre to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are 
>> many work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
>> interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, 
>> it doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, 
>> command-line isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would 
>> be beneficial, if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble 
>> project, but perhaps something can be done to improve accessibility for this 
>> very useful application.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
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