date:20120417

Hello Veronica,

If you are not interacting with the messages table and just navigating up and 
down with the arrow keys, VO should announce unread, reply was sent, message 
was forwarded, and so on, but not "Read". However, if you interact with the 
messages table, the status column will say "Blank" if the message has been read.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 16 Apr 2012, at 23:22, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> I too managed to turn off the preview pane. I did the double tap on the track 
> pad of my macbook air. It didn't say anything or make a sound, but the 
> preview pane did in fact disappear. Here's my question.
> I also went into the view menu and turned off conversations. Now it does not 
> say unread or read for any message. Is there anything I should have done or 
> set to make this happen. It did say reply sent though. Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
> Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>   Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
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Replacing an ordinary hifi, but with what?

2012-04-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi good people.
I'll soon be moving and starting a new life in a way. I have sold my old hifi 
because i never found the songs i wanted when using a cd, because i never 
labeled the cds and lately i have started to listen to music from the computer 
rather than the stereo. What i want to do now is to have a stereo sound system 
with my beloved IMac as sound source and if possible even my i-devices and 
therefore i want to have some speakers that support airplay. What speakers 
would you guys recommend? I've heard of a danish speaker called Libratone 
Lounch and wonder if anyone have heard of these and if not, as i said i seek 
recommendations on good speakers that don't sound too plastic or have too much 
emphasis in any direction, i'm to old to change my living room to a disco.
Any tips would be appreciated.
/Krister

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Spell Checking in Mail

2012-04-17 Thread Jim Gatteys

Hi all!
I have my mail set to spell check when the message is about to be sent.  I 
wonder if there is a way to read the sentence or line in question with the 
mis-spelled word?  I think it would help in context to know what the checker is 
about to change.  Maybe I should revert back to a different spell check option.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Re: something to make it easier for you

2012-04-17 Thread Maria Chapman

Hi.  i am a new mac user.  can you tell me what to do with this script to make 
it work?

thanks

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On 11/04/2012, at 2:40 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> Just wanted to drop you guys a little script i made to help you with copy and 
> pasting stuff from pdfs web or anything actually.
> 
> The basic premise here is to copy whatever sentence paragraph or whatever 
> text you have, use the copy last phrase to clipboard command and my script 
> will automatically paste it to the end of your text editor window.
> 
> This is very useful if you have long text that you want copied and pasted 
> from pdf files just as they are supposed to be without wasting time on 
> switching apps, reformatting etc.
> 
> Here's the script:
> 
> set thetext to get the clipboard
> tell application "TextEdit"
>   set theindex to every paragraph of front document
>   set thecount to count theindex
>   set thecount to thecount + 1
>   set paragraph thecount of front document to thetext
>   
>   say "pasted to text editor"
> end tell
> 
> 
> Copy it all, paste it into your applescript editor which is 
> /applications/utilitiesapplescript editor
> /
> 
> The best thing to do next is to apply a gesture to the script.
> 
> Here is how i do this:
> 
> I have option one finger flick down to read the next sentence
> 
> Option tow finger flick down for next paragraph 
> 
> Then i have option four finger flick left to copy last phrase to clipboard
> 
> Lastly, i use option pinch out for running the script
> 
> With this, every paragraph you want to copy is then pasted without switching 
> to the text editor and back.
> 
> I'll make a better version later on but if you want to play with this one 
> already and test it out, be my guest :)
> 
> 
> I might make a short podcast to demonstrate how faast one's productivity can 
> get with this technique 
> 
> Yuma 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
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Apple certified support professional

Hi List,

I was wondering if anyone has taken the ACSP exam, and wouldn't mind answering 
some basic questions in regards to the accessibility of this exam as well as a 
few other questions.  You can contact me off list at my e-mail below my 
signature.

Thanks.

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Re: bookshare and mac?

2012-04-17 Thread Christine Grassman

Maria, you can also get a free file extractor called the unarchiver. Download 
and install it, then when you download a bookshare Daity title, you open the 
unarchiver, put in your bookshare password, and it extracts the file just as on 
a PC. You can then read the book in Safari or other preferred web browsers 
which otherwise work with VO. 

Christine
On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> HI.  thanks.  will this app do audio books as well?
> 
> i have it just haven't played with it.
> 
> 
>   regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> email:
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> check out 
> www.powerradio104.us
> where we play lots of great music
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2012, at 1:43 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:
> 
>> Hello I use an app called Oliaria. its a daisy reader app for the mac.
>> its very accessible and I have personally read several book share
>> books with it. my favorite was the steve jobs bio. you can either read
>> with the vo voice and cursor or use the audio functions and use the
>> system voice to read it. thanks
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 8:25 pm, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>>> HI.  is it possible to read a bookshare book on the mac?  I have read to go 
>>> for the iphone but was just wondering if i download a book via the mac 
>>> whether or not i can read it using the mac?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> Maria and crew from australia
>>> email:
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> check outwww.powerradio104.us
>>> where we play lots of great music
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Re: bookshare and mac?

2012-04-17 Thread Maria Chapman

Hi.  thanks.  i was looking for a way to read and save my place.  do i still 
need the unarchiver to read bookshare books in oleria?

pardon spelling. too lazy to go look it up lol 


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On 17/04/2012, at 11:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Maria, you can also get a free file extractor called the unarchiver. Download 
> and install it, then when you download a bookshare Daity title, you open the 
> unarchiver, put in your bookshare password, and it extracts the file just as 
> on a PC. You can then read the book in Safari or other preferred web browsers 
> which otherwise work with VO. 
> 
> Christine
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> 
>> HI.  thanks.  will this app do audio books as well?
>> 
>> i have it just haven't played with it.
>> 
>> 
>>  regards
>> Maria and crew from australia
>> email:
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> check out 
>> www.powerradio104.us
>> where we play lots of great music
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/04/2012, at 1:43 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello I use an app called Oliaria. its a daisy reader app for the mac.
>>> its very accessible and I have personally read several book share
>>> books with it. my favorite was the steve jobs bio. you can either read
>>> with the vo voice and cursor or use the audio functions and use the
>>> system voice to read it. thanks
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 8:25 pm, Maria Chapman  wrote:
 HI.  is it possible to read a bookshare book on the mac?  I have read to 
 go for the iphone but was just wondering if i download a book via the mac 
 whether or not i can read it using the mac?
 
 thanks
 
 regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 email:
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 check outwww.powerradio104.us
 where we play lots of great music
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Re: bookshare and mac?

2012-04-17 Thread Christine Grassman

I've never used anything except the unarchiver snd Safari, so I don't know of 
the app you mention has an extraction feature built in.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> Hi.  thanks.  i was looking for a way to read and save my place.  do i still 
> need the unarchiver to read bookshare books in oleria?
> 
> pardon spelling. too lazy to go look it up lol 
> 
> 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl 
> skype: bubbygirl1972
> 
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2012, at 11:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Maria, you can also get a free file extractor called the unarchiver. 
>> Download and install it, then when you download a bookshare Daity title, you 
>> open the unarchiver, put in your bookshare password, and it extracts the 
>> file just as on a PC. You can then read the book in Safari or other 
>> preferred web browsers which otherwise work with VO. 
>> 
>> Christine
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.  thanks.  will this app do audio books as well?
>>> 
>>> i have it just haven't played with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> Maria and crew from australia
>>> email:
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> check out 
>>> www.powerradio104.us
>>> where we play lots of great music
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/2012, at 1:43 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:
>>> 
 Hello I use an app called Oliaria. its a daisy reader app for the mac.
 its very accessible and I have personally read several book share
 books with it. my favorite was the steve jobs bio. you can either read
 with the vo voice and cursor or use the audio functions and use the
 system voice to read it. thanks
 
 On Apr 16, 8:25 pm, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> HI.  is it possible to read a bookshare book on the mac?  I have read to 
> go for the iphone but was just wondering if i download a book via the mac 
> whether or not i can read it using the mac?
> 
> thanks
> 
> regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> email:
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> check outwww.powerradio104.us
> where we play lots of great music
 
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Re: Guitar chords

2012-04-17 Thread CJ Daniel

Michael,

You have to be signed up for the NLS' program for the blind & physically 
handicapped.  After that, you're eligible to borrow from the Library of 
Congress's music program.  So, if you're receiving books from your state's 
lending library or downloading books from them, you're good to go.  Then, you 
would simply call 800-424-8567 & order to your heart's content.  If you're not 
signed up, then you need to contact your state's cooperating library & get the 
paper-work started.

Let me know if I ca help,

CJ


On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Michael Malarsie wrote:

> This sounds awesome! Available for free? Who do I go about doing that? I love 
> free! Thanks a lot!
> 
> Mike Malarsie 
> On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:07 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Try Bill Brown's tutorials for the blind or Guitar by Ear CD's & MP3's @ 
>> www.musicvi.com.  He's got a ton of stuff & a lot of it is available for 
>> free through the Library of Congress's music division.
>> 
>> Let me know if I can help in any other way.  I've been playing for over 
>> 30-years in clubs for a while & more recently in church.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Michael Malarsie wrote:
>> 
>>> Happy Friday the 13th!
>>> Does anyone know of a website or app or anything that has guitar chords 
>>> and or tabs that are accessible?
>>> I have been using YouTube to learn a lot of the basic chords and scales 
>>> but as I advance it seems to get harder and harder to find well described  
>>> videos.
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>> 
>>> Mike Malarsie 
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the screen from hell

I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my password and 
it won't go to the desk top.  

Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it goes 
straight to the desk top.  

It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I can't see 
what, below the apple.  

I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have to 
wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for it to 
boot again giving me the desktop.

Please help.

Jenny
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm wrong. but 
> you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by a space and the 
> at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at the end.  
> 
> hth
> 
> 
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> twitter: bubbygirl 
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> 
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's twitter 
>> name, what steps must I perform to start following that person.
>> Frank
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Re: ILife Apps

Thanks,

Jenny
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:

> Hello, the iLife apps are Garageband, iMovie,iWeb and iPhoto.
> hth
> ED
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Re: the screen from hell

2012-04-17 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter

I wonder if the power button is set to put the computer into sleep or stand-by, 
rather than use\e turn it off and on again?  When I press my power button, I 
still have to choose whether to sleep or restart or shut off, unless I use the 
"panic button," method of just holding it down until the computer goes off.  
Jenny, try checking in Apple / System pref / power and see what the settings 
for it are.


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Re: the screen from hell

Hi,

I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover utilities 
with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome dialog when VoiceOver 
starts" is unchecked.

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:

> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my password 
> and it won't go to the desk top.  
> 
> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it goes 
> straight to the desk top.  
> 
> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I can't 
> see what, below the apple.  
> 
> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have to 
> wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for it to 
> boot again giving me the desktop.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm wrong. 
>> but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by a space and 
>> the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at the end.  
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> 
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>> 
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's 
>>> twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following that person.
>>> Frank
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Re: Spell Checking in Mail

Yeah, I'd like to know the same thing.

Jenny
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> wonder if there is a way to read the sentence or line in question with the 
> mis-spelled word?  I think it would help in context to know what the checker 
> is about to change.  Maybe I should revert back to a different spell check 
> option.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
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DAISY Reader

2012-04-17 Thread Kevin Chao

What DAISY readers are OS X users using with VoiceOver?

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Re: the screen from hell

I do hold the power button to turn it off, that's how I can get the desktop the 
second time.  

I shut it down with the regular shut down sequence via the apple menu to shut 
it down when I am done with it.

Hope that helps.

Jenny
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> I wonder if the power button is set to put the computer into sleep or 
> stand-by, rather than use\e turn it off and on again?  When I press my power 
> button, I still have to choose whether to sleep or restart or shut off, 
> unless I use the "panic button," method of just holding it down until the 
> computer goes off.  Jenny, try checking in Apple / System pref / power and 
> see what the settings for it are.
> 
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Re: bookshare and mac?

2012-04-17 Thread patricia solis

No don't need the unarchiver. Just VO space on your  book and enter  your 
Bookshare  password and it will unzip it. Then open it with Olearia.


On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> Hi.  thanks.  i was looking for a way to read and save my place.  do i still 
> need the unarchiver to read bookshare books in oleria?
> 
> pardon spelling. too lazy to go look it up lol 
> 
> 
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> 
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2012, at 11:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Maria, you can also get a free file extractor called the unarchiver. 
>> Download and install it, then when you download a bookshare Daity title, you 
>> open the unarchiver, put in your bookshare password, and it extracts the 
>> file just as on a PC. You can then read the book in Safari or other 
>> preferred web browsers which otherwise work with VO. 
>> 
>> Christine
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.  thanks.  will this app do audio books as well?
>>> 
>>> i have it just haven't played with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> Maria and crew from australia
>>> email:
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> check out 
>>> www.powerradio104.us
>>> where we play lots of great music
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/2012, at 1:43 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:
>>> 
 Hello I use an app called Oliaria. its a daisy reader app for the mac.
 its very accessible and I have personally read several book share
 books with it. my favorite was the steve jobs bio. you can either read
 with the vo voice and cursor or use the audio functions and use the
 system voice to read it. thanks
 
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> HI.  is it possible to read a bookshare book on the mac?  I have read to 
> go for the iphone but was just wondering if i download a book via the mac 
> whether or not i can read it using the mac?
> 
> thanks
> 
> regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> email:
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> check outwww.powerradio104.us
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Re: Replacing an ordinary hifi, but with what?

The Libratone Lounge setup seems nice bout for $1300 I have to wonder if 
a more old school setup wouldn't sound better. I have my mini connected 
to a nice Dennon receiver and JBL speakers. The speakers I bought at 
auction when the media production place I was working for went under and 
love the sound. The Dennon is hitting 12 years old now and just keeps on 
working. Some of their models today include Airplay so you could beam 
your music to your receiver and then use a good pair of speakers. That 
would also give you a nice surround-sound decoder for DVDs if you chose 
to run the optical cable from your Mac to the receiver.


CB

On 4/17/12 4:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi good people.
I'll soon be moving and starting a new life in a way. I have sold my old hifi 
because i never found the songs i wanted when using a cd, because i never 
labeled the cds and lately i have started to listen to music from the computer 
rather than the stereo. What i want to do now is to have a stereo sound system 
with my beloved IMac as sound source and if possible even my i-devices and 
therefore i want to have some speakers that support airplay. What speakers 
would you guys recommend? I've heard of a danish speaker called Libratone 
Lounch and wonder if anyone have heard of these and if not, as i said i seek 
recommendations on good speakers that don't sound too plastic or have too much 
emphasis in any direction, i'm to old to change my living room to a disco.
Any tips would be appreciated.
/Krister



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Re: the screen from hell

thanks
On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover utilities 
> with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome dialog when 
> VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my password 
>> and it won't go to the desk top.  
>> 
>> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it goes 
>> straight to the desk top.  
>> 
>> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I can't 
>> see what, below the apple.  
>> 
>> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have to 
>> wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for it to 
>> boot again giving me the desktop.
>> 
>> Please help.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm wrong. 
>>> but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by a space 
>>> and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at the end.  
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>> 
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: the screen from hell

OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.

Thanks a lot.

JennyOK
On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover utilities 
> with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome dialog when 
> VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my password 
>> and it won't go to the desk top.  
>> 
>> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it goes 
>> straight to the desk top.  
>> 
>> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I can't 
>> see what, below the apple.  
>> 
>> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have to 
>> wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for it to 
>> boot again giving me the desktop.
>> 
>> Please help.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm wrong. 
>>> but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by a space 
>>> and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at the end.  
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>> 
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
>>> 
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Purchasing an iPhone

2012-04-17 Thread Rahul Bajaj

Hi all,

I live in India, and I'm interested in purchasing an iPhone.
The iPhone 4S is very expensive here. It costs $1000.
I have a couple of cousins who live in the U.S. and frequently keep coming to 
India.
So, what's the best deal that I can get if I wish to purchase the iPhone from 
the U.S. and use it in India?
I believe that the iPhone 4S costs $200 in the U.S. with a contract.
But I'll have to regularly pay the contract violation fee and there's no way of 
unlocking it for using it here.

I am also willing to purchase a refurbished iPhone if I get it for a good price.
So, Please give your valuable suggestions.

Cheers,
Rahul

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Re: Spell Checking in Mail

2012-04-17 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

A  quick test for me indicates that control-F4 will switch you back to the mail 
message and control-F6 switches you to the spell checker.  I didn't bring up 
the instructions on full keyboard access to verify that these are in fact 
switch to next primary wwindow and switch to aux  window specifically, but give 
it a try.

Best wishes,

Jonathan 

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> I have my mail set to spell check when the message is about to be sent.  I 
> wonder if there is a way to read the sentence or line in question with the 
> mis-spelled word?  I think it would help in context to know what the checker 
> is about to change.  Maybe I should revert back to a different spell check 
> option.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Jim
> 
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Re: the screen from hell

2012-04-17 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart all your 
programs that you were running when you shut the computer down.  This could 
take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks on the list have 
suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  I have never personally 
encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it would be useful to know what 
the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver working enough that you could use VO-F2 
and/or VO-F1 to get the window name and application name respectively.

Best wishes,

Jonathan

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> JennyOK
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover utilities 
>> with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome dialog when 
>> VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my password 
>>> and it won't go to the desk top.  
>>> 
>>> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it goes 
>>> straight to the desk top.  
>>> 
>>> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I can't 
>>> see what, below the apple.  
>>> 
>>> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have to 
>>> wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for it 
>>> to boot again giving me the desktop.
>>> 
>>> Please help.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm wrong. 
 but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by a space 
 and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at the end.  
 
 hth
 
 
 Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
 Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 twitter: bubbygirl 
 skype: bubbygirl1972
 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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> Frank
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Re: something to make it easier for you

2012-04-17 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn


Jonathan C. Cohn
jonc...@cox.net
Did you get the script saved in AppleScript?  Once that is done then the rest 
of what was discussed is in the VoiceOver Utility gotten to via the VO-F8 key 
sequence.  In the Utility there is an area called commanders, and within the 
commanders you can link VoiceOver actions to keys or some touch pad actions.  
There is also a item to run an applescript from the commander area.  

This should hopefully be enough information to get you to find Apple Help 
documents that describe  what you need to do in more detail.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> Hi.  i am a new mac user.  can you tell me what to do with this script to 
> make it work?
> 
> thanks
> 
>   regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> email:
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> check out 
> www.powerradio104.us
> where we play lots of great music
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/04/2012, at 2:40 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys,
>> 
>> Just wanted to drop you guys a little script i made to help you with copy 
>> and pasting stuff from pdfs web or anything actually.
>> 
>> The basic premise here is to copy whatever sentence paragraph or whatever 
>> text you have, use the copy last phrase to clipboard command and my script 
>> will automatically paste it to the end of your text editor window.
>> 
>> This is very useful if you have long text that you want copied and pasted 
>> from pdf files just as they are supposed to be without wasting time on 
>> switching apps, reformatting etc.
>> 
>> Here's the script:
>> 
>> set thetext to get the clipboard
>> tell application "TextEdit"
>>  set theindex to every paragraph of front document
>>  set thecount to count theindex
>>  set thecount to thecount + 1
>>  set paragraph thecount of front document to thetext
>>  
>>  say "pasted to text editor"
>> end tell
>> 
>> 
>> Copy it all, paste it into your applescript editor which is 
>> /applications/utilitiesapplescript editor
>> /
>> 
>> The best thing to do next is to apply a gesture to the script.
>> 
>> Here is how i do this:
>> 
>> I have option one finger flick down to read the next sentence
>> 
>> Option tow finger flick down for next paragraph 
>> 
>> Then i have option four finger flick left to copy last phrase to clipboard
>> 
>> Lastly, i use option pinch out for running the script
>> 
>> With this, every paragraph you want to copy is then pasted without switching 
>> to the text editor and back.
>> 
>> I'll make a better version later on but if you want to play with this one 
>> already and test it out, be my guest :)
>> 
>> 
>> I might make a short podcast to demonstrate how faast one's productivity can 
>> get with this technique 
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: the screen from hell

No,

Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does nothing. 
 It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I can't get it to do 
it so they can tell me what's on the screen.

Funny how electronics know.

Jenny
On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart all 
> your programs that you were running when you shut the computer down.  This 
> could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks on the 
> list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  I have 
> never personally encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it would be 
> useful to know what the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver working enough 
> that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to get the window name and application 
> name respectively.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot.
>> 
>> JennyOK
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
>>> utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome dialog 
>>> when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my password 
 and it won't go to the desk top.  
 
 Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it 
 goes straight to the desk top.  
 
 It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I can't 
 see what, below the apple.  
 
 I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have 
 to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for 
 it to boot again giving me the desktop.
 
 Please help.
 
 Jenny
 On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 
> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm wrong. 
> but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by a space 
> and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at the end.  
> 
> hth
> 
> 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl 
> skype: bubbygirl1972
> 
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's 
>> twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following that person.
>> Frank
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Re: the screen from hell

2012-04-17 Thread Lewis Alexander

To solve this problem, you mentioned that voiceover is not running or not 
working? have you tried running voiceover? this may be a logon screen issue..

let me compile some suitable settings for voiceover stability which will assist 
in your mac experience. please note that as you're using lion, some of my 
settings notes may differ slightly but the instructions will be the same.

lew

On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:47, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> No,
> 
> Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does 
> nothing.  It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I can't get 
> it to do it so they can tell me what's on the screen.
> 
> Funny how electronics know.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> 
>> WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart all 
>> your programs that you were running when you shut the computer down.  This 
>> could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks on the 
>> list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  I have 
>> never personally encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it would be 
>> useful to know what the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver working enough 
>> that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to get the window name and application 
>> name respectively.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>> jonc...@cox.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>> 
>>> JennyOK
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
 Hi,
 
 I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
 utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome dialog 
 when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
 
> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my 
> password and it won't go to the desk top.  
> 
> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it 
> goes straight to the desk top.  
> 
> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I 
> can't see what, below the apple.  
> 
> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have 
> to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait for 
> it to boot again giving me the desktop.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm 
>> wrong. but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by 
>> a space and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at 
>> the end.  
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> 
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>> 
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's 
>>> twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following that person.
>>> Frank
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Re: the screen from hell

I have tried to get voice over to run but nothing happens.  thanks.

Jenny
On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> To solve this problem, you mentioned that voiceover is not running or not 
> working? have you tried running voiceover? this may be a logon screen issue..
> 
> let me compile some suitable settings for voiceover stability which will 
> assist in your mac experience. please note that as you're using lion, some of 
> my settings notes may differ slightly but the instructions will be the same.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:47, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> No,
>> 
>> Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does 
>> nothing.  It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I can't 
>> get it to do it so they can tell me what's on the screen.
>> 
>> Funny how electronics know.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>> 
>>> WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart all 
>>> your programs that you were running when you shut the computer down.  This 
>>> could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks on the 
>>> list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  I have 
>>> never personally encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it would be 
>>> useful to know what the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver working enough 
>>> that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to get the window name and 
>>> application name respectively.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>>> jonc...@cox.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
 OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 JennyOK
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
> utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome 
> dialog when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my 
>> password and it won't go to the desk top.  
>> 
>> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it 
>> goes straight to the desk top.  
>> 
>> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I 
>> can't see what, below the apple.  
>> 
>> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not have 
>> to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and wait 
>> for it to boot again giving me the desktop.
>> 
>> Please help.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm 
>>> wrong. but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed by 
>>> a space and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter at 
>>> the end.  
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>> 
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's 
 twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following that person.
 Frank
 
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Re: the screen from hell

2012-04-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Are you pressing command F5? 

On 17 Apr 2012, at 05:54 PM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:

> I have tried to get voice over to run but nothing happens.  thanks.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
> 
>> To solve this problem, you mentioned that voiceover is not running or not 
>> working? have you tried running voiceover? this may be a logon screen issue..
>> 
>> let me compile some suitable settings for voiceover stability which will 
>> assist in your mac experience. please note that as you're using lion, some 
>> of my settings notes may differ slightly but the instructions will be the 
>> same.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:47, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> 
>>> No,
>>> 
>>> Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does 
>>> nothing.  It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I can't 
>>> get it to do it so they can tell me what's on the screen.
>>> 
>>> Funny how electronics know.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>>> 
 WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart all 
 your programs that you were running when you shut the computer down.  This 
 could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks on the 
 list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  I have 
 never personally encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it would be 
 useful to know what the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver working enough 
 that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to get the window name and 
 application name respectively.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan
 
 Jonathan C. Cohn
 jonc...@cox.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
 
> OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> JennyOK
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
>> utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome 
>> dialog when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my 
>>> password and it won't go to the desk top.  
>>> 
>>> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it 
>>> goes straight to the desk top.  
>>> 
>>> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I 
>>> can't see what, below the apple.  
>>> 
>>> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not 
>>> have to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and 
>>> wait for it to boot again giving me the desktop.
>>> 
>>> Please help.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm 
 wrong. but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed 
 by a space and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press enter 
 at the end.  
 
 hth
 
 
 Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
 Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 twitter: bubbygirl 
 skype: bubbygirl1972
 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
 
> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's 
> twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following that 
> person.
> Frank
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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

2012-04-17 Thread Veronica Elsea

Thanks Anne. Next time I'm reading mail I'll see what happens with 
the new messages that come in.

Thanks.

Veronica

At 01:32 AM 4/17/2012, you wrote:

Hello Veronica,

If you are not interacting with the messages table and just 
navigating up and down with the arrow keys, VO should announce 
unread, reply was sent, message was forwarded, and so on, but not 
"Read". However, if you interact with the messages table, the status 
column will say "Blank" if the message has been read.

Cheers,

Anne

On 16 Apr 2012, at 23:22, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> I too managed to turn off the preview pane. I did the double tap 
on the track pad of my macbook air. It didn't say anything or make 
a sound, but the preview pane did in fact disappear. Here's my question.
> I also went into the view menu and turned off conversations. Now 
it does not say unread or read for any message. Is there anything I 
should have done or set to make this happen. It did say reply sent 
though. Thanks.

>
> Veronica
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Selecting files using vo.

Hi,
Is there an easy way to 
select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
If so, how do I do this.
Thank you.
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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

2012-04-17 Thread Veronica Elsea

Okay, I went into Mail and new messages downloaded automatically. I then just 
used arrow keys to move through the messages. They all just said blank blank 
blank before the name of the sender, etc. Hmmm, what am I missing here?
Thanks.

Veronica


On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Thanks Anne. Next time I'm reading mail I'll see what happens with the new 
> messages that come in.
> Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> At 01:32 AM 4/17/2012, you wrote:
>> Hello Veronica,
>> 
>> If you are not interacting with the messages table and just navigating up 
>> and down with the arrow keys, VO should announce unread, reply was sent, 
>> message was forwarded, and so on, but not "Read". However, if you interact 
>> with the messages table, the status column will say "Blank" if the message 
>> has been read.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 Apr 2012, at 23:22, Veronica Elsea wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi everyone!
>> > I too managed to turn off the preview pane. I did the double tap on the 
>> > track pad of my macbook air. It didn't say anything or make a sound, but 
>> > the preview pane did in fact disappear. Here's my question.
>> > I also went into the view menu and turned off conversations. Now it does 
>> > not say unread or read for any message. Is there anything I should have 
>> > done or set to make this happen. It did say reply sent though. Thanks.
>> >
>> > Veronica
>> > Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at 
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
>> > Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>> > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> >   Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Re: ILife Apps

2012-04-17 Thread Steve Holmes

What do you mean you have to buy them? Those apps appear to be on my
Lion Mac Mini and I didn't especially load them.  I haven't run any of
them yet so I don't know if they are some sort of trial or starter
versions or not.  I have received updates for them when updating my
system so I thought those were included now.

On 4/17/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> Thanks,
>
> Jenny
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
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>> Hello, the iLife apps are Garageband, iMovie,iWeb and iPhoto.
>> hth
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Re: ILife Apps

2012-04-17 Thread Lewis Alexander

these are full versions.

when you purchase any apple mac, the system comes installed with OS X and iLife 
pre-installed. fully installed and ready to use. no trials. just simple, on the 
go, no nonsense stuff.

lew

On 17 Apr 2012, at 18:14, Steve Holmes wrote:

> What do you mean you have to buy them? Those apps appear to be on my
> Lion Mac Mini and I didn't especially load them.  I haven't run any of
> them yet so I don't know if they are some sort of trial or starter
> versions or not.  I have received updates for them when updating my
> system so I thought those were included now.
> 
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, the iLife apps are Garageband, iMovie,iWeb and iPhoto.
>>> hth
>>> ED
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Re: Apple certified support professional

2012-04-17 Thread Steve Holmes

Actually, this subject interests me to though I have lots to learn
about Apple stuff in general.  So keep the replies on list if nobody
else minds too much.

On 4/17/12, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has taken the ACSP exam, and wouldn't mind
> answering some basic questions in regards to the accessibility of this exam
> as well as a few other questions.  You can contact me off list at my e-mail
> below my signature.
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> Thanks.
>
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Re: Selecting files using vo.

Hi, Stacey,

Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.

First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't move 
your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar to 
select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished 
selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then 
perform whichever actions you need to on the items.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there an easy way to 
> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
> If so, how do I do this.
> Thank you.
> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

Hello Veronica,

It sounds as though the preview pane is still there and the messages are being 
opened as you arrow down through them.

How do you read your messages? I read mine by pressing Return, then I close 
them with Cmd-w. If VO-j takes you to the body of the messages, then the 
preview pane is still there.

Cheers,

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Re: the screen from hell

yes
On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Are you pressing command F5? 
> 
> On 17 Apr 2012, at 05:54 PM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> 
>> I have tried to get voice over to run but nothing happens.  thanks.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>> 
>>> To solve this problem, you mentioned that voiceover is not running or not 
>>> working? have you tried running voiceover? this may be a logon screen 
>>> issue..
>>> 
>>> let me compile some suitable settings for voiceover stability which will 
>>> assist in your mac experience. please note that as you're using lion, some 
>>> of my settings notes may differ slightly but the instructions will be the 
>>> same.
>>> 
>>> lew
>>> 
>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:47, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
 No,
 
 Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does 
 nothing.  It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I can't 
 get it to do it so they can tell me what's on the screen.
 
 Funny how electronics know.
 
 Jenny
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
 
> WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart all 
> your programs that you were running when you shut the computer down.  
> This could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks 
> on the list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  
> I have never personally encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it 
> would be useful to know what the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver 
> working enough that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to get the window 
> name and application name respectively.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot.
>> 
>> JennyOK
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
>>> utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome 
>>> dialog when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my 
 password and it won't go to the desk top.  
 
 Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, it 
 goes straight to the desk top.  
 
 It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I 
 can't see what, below the apple.  
 
 I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not 
 have to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and 
 wait for it to boot again giving me the desktop.
 
 Please help.
 
 Jenny
 On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
 
> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm 
> wrong. but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed 
> by a space and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press 
> enter at the end.  
> 
> hth
> 
> 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl 
> skype: bubbygirl1972
> 
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a person's 
>> twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following that 
>> person.
>> Frank
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facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

Theresa,
Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
Now, for another harder question.
Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?

On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, Stacey,
> 
> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
> 
> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar 
> to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished 
> selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then 
> perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Is there an easy way to 
>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>> If so, how do I do this.
>> Thank you.
>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: Guitar chords

2012-04-17 Thread Tim Hornik

Mike, I just searched for Beginner Guitar on my iPhone and his stuff was 
the first app. The name of the app is Beginner Guitar. I also just found 
out he has published two new apps for the Blues and Licks. I will be trying 
them out later, but feel based on his previous works they will be fine. 
Additionally, I encourage those interested in starting to learn Blues, to 
check out the box DVD set Marty posted at Guitar Jams. I bought the set and 
love it. His teaching style is 80-90% accessible, but most of that 
difference will be made up through experience.

@CJ, I am interested in looking into your offer as a guitar teacher. My 
email is timothy.hor...@gmail.com
Tim

On Monday, April 16, 2012 7:48:13 PM UTC-5, Eyelessguy1987 wrote:
>
> Oh yeah I love his videos! I have subscribed to his channel. What is thee 
> name of the app? I tried to find it but had no luck.
>
> Mike Malarsie 
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Tim Hornik wrote:
>
> > I use guitar jams by Narty Schwarz  and play it now tunes. Marty has a 
> youtube page and accessible app.  
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Re: ILife Apps

The only thing you would need to buy down the road is any upgrades, if 
you think the features/fixes would be worth it. Generally there isn't an 
'upgrade price' since the things are bundled for free or cheap to begin 
with. While iWorks may have its issues compared to office, you certainly 
can't beat the price - $60 for all thee vs. about $180 for the 'home' 
version of MS Office. Given that MS Office doesn't work at all with 
voiceover it wouldn't even be worth it if it was free.


CB

On 4/17/12 1:15 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

these are full versions.

when you purchase any apple mac, the system comes installed with OS X and iLife 
pre-installed. fully installed and ready to use. no trials. just simple, on the 
go, no nonsense stuff.

lew

On 17 Apr 2012, at 18:14, Steve Holmes wrote:


What do you mean you have to buy them? Those apps appear to be on my
Lion Mac Mini and I didn't especially load them.  I haven't run any of
them yet so I don't know if they are some sort of trial or starter
versions or not.  I have received updates for them when updating my
system so I thought those were included now.

On 4/17/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:

Thanks,

Jenny
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:


Hello, the iLife apps are Garageband, iMovie,iWeb and iPhoto.
hth
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of folks 
use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.

Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Theresa,
> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
> Now, for another harder question.
> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Stacey,
>> 
>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
>> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>> 
>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
>> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar 
>> to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished 
>> selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then 
>> perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is there an easy way to 
>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>>> If so, how do I do this.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: fs: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage

I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of 
diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts 
of the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you 
doing something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping 
you aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade.


I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty 
etc. is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling 
your old drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as 
some scratch space. You have four bays afterall.


CB

On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote:

Good evening all,

I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 quad-core 
chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing at all wrong 
with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores for productivity. 
I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If interested, please hit 
me back.

One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50.



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Olearia

2012-04-17 Thread Becky Knaub

Hi all,
What website do you download olearia from. I want to read bookshare books on my 
mac and be able to book mark my place.

Thanks.

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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

2012-04-17 Thread Veronica Elsea

Okay, you might be right. And in the act of trying, I seem to have 
made a mess of mail. 


Here's what I have.
When I first open Mail, it says inbox, so many messages, so many 
unread. VO says messages table is under the cursor. I can open a 
message with enter and VO-J does take me to the text. If I tab from 
there, it says message content, row 1 of 1. Tab again and it says 
mailboxes table, then I'm back at messages.
And after doing what I thought was the correct directions to disable 
the preview pane, from the messages table, VO-left or right arrow 
just takes me through the fields, date received, status, etc.
If I stop interacting with the messages table, VO-right arrow takes 
me to a horrizontal splitter. Is this the one I use? If I VO-right 
from this splitter, it says mail activity, then next is another 
horrizontal splitter. Continuing right, I get new mailbox button, 
hide mail activity button, mailboxes action button, then back to 
message content. Now I can't find the table. I've ended up in funny 
menus sometimes too. If I quit mail, I can then come back in and find 
my messages table again.
Boy, if someone could help me sort out the mess I've made, I'd sure 
appreciate it. 
Hey, at least I can send messages this week. I have no idea why it 
started working again, but I'm not asking. 

Anyway, thanks so much for the help.

Veronica
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
That's the one I used on windows.
I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Theresa,
>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
>> Now, for another harder question.
>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Stacey,
>>> 
>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
>>> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>>> 
>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
>>> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. 
>>> Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with 
>>> VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Is there an easy way to 
 select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
 If so, how do I do this.
 Thank you.
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Re: the screen from hell

2012-04-17 Thread Scott Marshall F.

I haven't been following this thread but is there any chance you are holding 
down the option key.  this will bring up a screen that won't talk.  I hope this 
isn't repeat advice.
Marshall

On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> yes
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Are you pressing command F5? 
>> 
>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 05:54 PM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have tried to get voice over to run but nothing happens.  thanks.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>>> 
 To solve this problem, you mentioned that voiceover is not running or not 
 working? have you tried running voiceover? this may be a logon screen 
 issue..
 
 let me compile some suitable settings for voiceover stability which will 
 assist in your mac experience. please note that as you're using lion, some 
 of my settings notes may differ slightly but the instructions will be the 
 same.
 
 lew
 
 On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:47, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
 
> No,
> 
> Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does 
> nothing.  It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I can't 
> get it to do it so they can tell me what's on the screen.
> 
> Funny how electronics know.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> 
>> WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart 
>> all your programs that you were running when you shut the computer down. 
>>  This could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, some folks 
>> on the list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot is required.  
>> I have never personally encountered that but it is worth a try.  Also it 
>> would be useful to know what the beast actually is...  Is VoiceOver 
>> working enough that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to get the window 
>> name and application name respectively.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>> jonc...@cox.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>> 
>>> JennyOK
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
 Hi,
 
 I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
 utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome 
 dialog when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  
 wrote:
 
> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my 
> password and it won't go to the desk top.  
> 
> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, 
> it goes straight to the desk top.  
> 
> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I 
> can't see what, below the apple.  
> 
> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not 
> have to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, and 
> wait for it to boot again giving me the desktop.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm 
>> wrong. but you press command n for a new tweet then press f followed 
>> by a space and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. press 
>> enter at the end.  
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> 
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>> 
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a 
>>> person's twitter name, what steps must I perform to start following 
>>> that person.
>>> Frank
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Sorry about that. I was referring to the overall System preferences, not
the finder preferences. You can reach the System Preferences in a number
of ways. Once is to go to the Apple menu (VO-M and then down-arrow to
System Preferences) or another way is to go to the dock (VO-D) and type
SY which will move focus to the first match of the letters S and Y,
which should be System Preferences, and hit enter or a third way is to
use spotlight by hitting command-space to search for stuff on your
computer and then type System and the first results should be System
Preferences. Probably some other ways as well :)

If you get stuck again just ping back :)

On 4/16/12 12:45 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

OK, I can't get to the users and groups cause when I do command , on the finder
screen, I don't see users and groups.

also, this screen happens about every other time I turn on my computer so I
don't know what's going on.

Could you be a little more specific, cause I'm still pretty new at this.

Jenny
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

Which screen are you talking about, the authentication login screen? If so you just need to go into the
System Preferences and then Users& Groups, the 4th set of preference buttons under System. Once in
there go to the Users, Groups and Login Options list. Login Options will be the last item in the list.
If you VO-right from there you'll find Automatic login, which defaults to Off. You won't be able to
change it because this pane is locked. To unlock you'll have to go to the very end of the window where
you will find a "click the lock to make changes" button. So that and answer the password
prompt. Go back to the automatic login location and you'll find a popup with has choices of
"Off" or one of the accounts on your machine. If you change it to one of the accounts on your
machine then every time you startup it will drop you right into that account. Of course this isn't as
secure but it's quite handy.

Hope this was what you were looking for.

On 4/14/12 1:06 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

Hi,

I know a couple of people have called to help last week but with some health
problems and the emotional stress of having to retire, and then give up my
guide dog, I just haven't had the strength to deal with a phone conversation.

Please tell me what to do with that horrid screen. It happens every other time
I turn my computer on, and to get it to go away I have to manually turn my
computer off and then turn it back on to get it to go to the desktop.

I know there is a way to get past that screen, someone told me via email a long
time ago, but I can't remember it now.

HELP!

Jenny
On Apr 13, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

Hi all.
I've been doing some messing around in system preferences in the keyboard
section and wow have I really sped up keyboard performance.
Slide the sliders for both "Key repeat" and "Delay until repeat" to 100%. You
will see a big improvement in keyboard navigation. I really noticed this on one of the web sites
that I visit that has no headings or other navigational elements to make navigation quicker. I was
able to hold down VO right arrow, and just zip through the page.
I'm hoping that this might translate in to better gaming performance in my
virtual machine but I'm not holding my breath.
Well, I just thought I'd share this tip with you all. I'd be interested to know
other areas that speeding up the keyboard helps.
Kind regards,
Matthew Campbell.

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help with Italian Braille

2012-04-17 Thread Donna Goodin

Hello all,

I have some questions regarding Italian braille.  If there are any Italian 
braille readers on list, could you please contact me off-list at 
doniado...@me.com?

thanks, and to the rest of you, please excuse the post.
Best,
Donna

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Re: the screen from hell

No,

It comes up not talking at all.  It won't let me put in a password and/or my 
user name.  

If I hold down the power button and manually turn it off, and then turn it back 
on, it will boot right up to the desktop.

Go figure.

Jenny
On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Scott Marshall F. wrote:

> I haven't been following this thread but is there any chance you are holding 
> down the option key.  this will bring up a screen that won't talk.  I hope 
> this isn't repeat advice.
> Marshall
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> yes
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Are you pressing command F5? 
>>> 
>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 05:54 PM, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> 
 I have tried to get voice over to run but nothing happens.  thanks.
 
 Jenny
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
 
> To solve this problem, you mentioned that voiceover is not running or not 
> working? have you tried running voiceover? this may be a logon screen 
> issue..
> 
> let me compile some suitable settings for voiceover stability which will 
> assist in your mac experience. please note that as you're using lion, 
> some of my settings notes may differ slightly but the instructions will 
> be the same.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:47, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> No,
>> 
>> Voice over does not work at all.  It just sits on that screen and does 
>> nothing.  It always figures though, that when  sightling is here, I 
>> can't get it to do it so they can tell me what's on the screen.
>> 
>> Funny how electronics know.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>> 
>>> WIth OS Lion in the default configuration, it will attempt to restart 
>>> all your programs that you were running when you shut the computer 
>>> down.  This could take a while depending on what  was there.  Also, 
>>> some folks on the list have suggested that hitting alt-tab after boot 
>>> is required.  I have never personally encountered that but it is worth 
>>> a try.  Also it would be useful to know what the beast actually is...  
>>> Is VoiceOver working enough that you could use VO-F2 and/or VO-F1 to 
>>> get the window name and application name respectively.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>>> jonc...@cox.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
 OK, I did it and it wasn't on so hopefully that will help.
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 JennyOK
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ric
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if this is the Voiceover welcome dialog.  Go to voiceover 
> utilities with VO F8 and under general  and see if "Display welcome 
> dialog when VoiceOver starts" is unchecked.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Jennifer Perdue  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure it's not a login screen because I have tried entering my 
>> password and it won't go to the desk top.  
>> 
>> Also, if I manually turn the computer off and then turn it back on, 
>> it goes straight to the desk top.  
>> 
>> It is a grey screen with an apple in the middle and has something, I 
>> can't see what, below the apple.  
>> 
>> I'm getting very frustrated with this thing because I shouldn't not 
>> have to wait for it to boot, get that stupid screen, turn it off, 
>> and wait for it to boot again giving me the desktop.
>> 
>> Please help.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.  i am pretty sure i have this right. someone correct me if i'm 
>>> wrong. but you press command n for a new tweet then press f 
>>> followed by a space and the at symbol followed by the twitter name. 
>>> press enter at the end.  
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>> 
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/2012, at 10:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all, I have Yourufukou as my Twitter client. If I have a 
 person's twitter name, what steps must I perform to start 
 following that person.
 Frank
 
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Re: That GOD aweful screen!

Well, I did it.  Let's hope that's what we needed.

Thanks for being so patient with me.

Jenny
On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Sorry about that. I was referring to the overall System preferences, not the 
> finder preferences. You can reach the System Preferences in a number of ways. 
> Once is to go to the Apple menu (VO-M and then down-arrow to System 
> Preferences) or another way is to go to the dock (VO-D) and type SY which 
> will move focus to the first match of the letters S and Y, which should be 
> System Preferences, and hit enter or a third way is to use spotlight by 
> hitting command-space to search for stuff on your computer and then type 
> System and the first results should be System Preferences. Probably some 
> other ways as well :)
> 
> If you get stuck again just ping back :)
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/16/12 12:45 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> OK, I can't get to the users and groups cause when I do command , on the 
>> finder screen, I don't see users and groups.
>> 
>> also, this screen happens about every other time I turn on my computer so I 
>> don't know what's going on.
>> 
>> Could you be a little more specific, cause I'm still pretty new at this.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> Which screen are you talking about, the authentication login screen? If so 
>>> you just need to go into the System Preferences and then Users&  Groups, 
>>> the 4th set of preference buttons under System. Once in there go to the 
>>> Users, Groups and Login Options list. Login Options will be the last item 
>>> in the list. If you VO-right from there you'll find Automatic login, which 
>>> defaults to Off. You won't be able to change it because this pane is 
>>> locked. To unlock you'll have to go to the very end of the window where you 
>>> will find a "click the lock to make changes" button. So that and answer the 
>>> password prompt. Go back to the automatic login location and you'll find a 
>>> popup with has choices of "Off" or one of the accounts on your machine. If 
>>> you change it to one of the accounts on your machine then every time you 
>>> startup it will drop you right into that account. Of course this isn't as 
>>> secure but it's quite handy.
>>> 
>>> Hope this was what you were looking for.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 4/14/12 1:06 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I know a couple of people have called to help last week but with some 
 health problems and the emotional stress of having to retire, and then 
 give up my guide dog, I just haven't had the strength to deal with a phone 
 conversation.
 
 Please tell me what to do with that horrid screen.  It happens every other 
 time I turn my computer on, and to get it to go away I have to manually 
 turn my computer off and then turn it back on to get it to go to the 
 desktop.
 
 I know there is a way to get past that screen, someone told me via email a 
 long time ago, but I can't remember it now.
 
 HELP!
 
 Jenny
 On Apr 13, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> I've been doing some messing around in system preferences in the keyboard 
> section and wow have I really sped up keyboard performance.
> Slide the sliders for both "Key repeat" and "Delay until repeat" to 100%. 
> You will see a big improvement in keyboard navigation. I really noticed 
> this on one of the web sites that I visit that has no headings or other 
> navigational elements to make navigation quicker. I was able to hold down 
> VO right arrow, and just zip through the page.
> I'm hoping that this might translate in to better gaming performance in 
> my virtual machine but I'm not holding my breath.
> Well, I just thought I'd share this tip with you all. I'd be interested 
> to know other areas that speeding up the keyboard helps.
> Kind regards,
> Matthew Campbell.
> 
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some 
more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?

HTH,
Teresa

"Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein

On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
> That's the one I used on windows.
> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
>> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Theresa,
>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
>>> Now, for another harder question.
>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Stacey,
 
 Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
 Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
 
 First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
 move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
 VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. 
 Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with 
 VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 
 "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 
> Hi,
> Is there an easy way to 
> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
> If so, how do I do this.
> Thank you.
> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
> 
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I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!

OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate to 
message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name then VO 
right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field again, and 
then do VO shift M as in Mary.

this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender.  It won't give 
me a menu at all.

there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac.  But right now.  I 
could smash it into a million peaces.  

What on earth am I missing.

Jenny
On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some 
> more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
> particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
>> That's the one I used on windows.
>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
>>> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> 
 Theresa,
 Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
 Now, for another harder question.
 Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
 Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
> Hi, Stacey,
> 
> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
> 
> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing 
> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on 
> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on 
> the items.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
> Saga
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Is there an easy way to 
>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>> If so, how do I do this.
>> Thank you.
>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!

2012-04-17 Thread Jim Gatteys

Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply.
Don't give up.  I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't 
always work for me either.  It works for me if I go over to the subject then 
back again, then do vo-shift-m.  Then I get the address, copy and whatever else 
is on that menu.
It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have to do 
to make it work for you it will go smoothly.
I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the name 
you want.  I don't know if its a focus issue.  Have you tried routing the mouse 
to the name you want with vo-command-f5?  Just a thought.
Hope this helps.
Jim
P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done.

On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate to 
> message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name then 
> VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field again, 
> and then do VO shift M as in Mary.
> 
> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender.  It won't 
> give me a menu at all.
> 
> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac.  But right now.  I 
> could smash it into a million peaces.  
> 
> What on earth am I missing.
> 
> Jenny
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some 
>> more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
>> particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
>>> That's the one I used on windows.
>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
 folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
 
 Teresa
 
 "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 
> Theresa,
> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
> Now, for another harder question.
> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Stacey,
>> 
>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow 
>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>> 
>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you 
>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing 
>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on 
>> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to 
>> on the items.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
>> Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is there an easy way to 
>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>>> If so, how do I do this.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

I have lots of trouble moving from one newsfeed item to the other.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

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> more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
> particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
>> That's the one I used on windows.
>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
>>> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> 
 Theresa,
 Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
 Now, for another harder question.
 Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
 Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
> Hi, Stacey,
> 
> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
> 
> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing 
> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on 
> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on 
> the items.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
> Saga
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Is there an easy way to 
>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>> If so, how do I do this.
>> Thank you.
>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!

2012-04-17 Thread Tim Kilburn

Jennifer,

I believe that you missing one Interaction step.

• If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area again.
• Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the 
Subject.
• Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again.
• At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu.

What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header 
areas.  If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're Interacting 
with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an object once again in 
order to get to the proper level.  In this case, the second Interaction will 
take you to the "Message Header Text", and therefore you'll know that you're 
within the correct area for the steps outlined above.

Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through the 
air.

Later...

On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:

> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply.
> Don't give up.  I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't 
> always work for me either.  It works for me if I go over to the subject then 
> back again, then do vo-shift-m.  Then I get the address, copy and whatever 
> else is on that menu.
> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have to 
> do to make it work for you it will go smoothly.
> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the 
> name you want.  I don't know if its a focus issue.  Have you tried routing 
> the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5?  Just a thought.
> Hope this helps.
> Jim
> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done.
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate to 
>> message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name then 
>> VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field again, 
>> and then do VO shift M as in Mary.
>> 
>> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender.  It won't 
>> give me a menu at all.
>> 
>> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac.  But right now.  I 
>> could smash it into a million peaces.  
>> 
>> What on earth am I missing.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try 
>>> some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is 
>>> there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> 
 Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
 That's the one I used on windows.
 I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
> Saga
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Theresa,
>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
>> Now, for another harder question.
>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Stacey,
>>> 
>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow 
>>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>>> 
>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you 
>>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing 
>>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on 
>>> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to 
>>> on the items.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
>>> Saga
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Is there an easy way to 
 select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
 If so, how do I do this.
 Thank you.
 Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
 
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Using a mouse

2012-04-17 Thread Michael Malarsie

Greetings everyone,
If I plug a mouse into my Macbook is there an option to make the Voice 
Over call out what is under the cursor?
Are there any mouse options to mess with at all? I didn't find anything 
interesting in Universal Access and just wanted to find out is maybe I was just 
missing something.


Mike Malarsie 

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Re: Using a mouse

Yes,

in voiceover utilities under navigation, in the pop up, set the mouse pointer 
to move voiceover focus.

hth

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On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Michael Malarsie  
wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
>   If I plug a mouse into my Macbook is there an option to make the Voice 
> Over call out what is under the cursor?
>   Are there any mouse options to mess with at all? I didn't find anything 
> interesting in Universal Access and just wanted to find out is maybe I was 
> just missing something.
> 
> 
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Re: Using a mouse

Oh!  just to add, you don't need to plug in a mouse to do this either.  you can 
use your trackpad with trackpad commander turned off and get the same result.

hth

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> Over call out what is under the cursor?
>   Are there any mouse options to mess with at all? I didn't find anything 
> interesting in Universal Access and just wanted to find out is maybe I was 
> just missing something.
> 
> 
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Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage

Hi,

I was thinking the same thing.  In more cases than not, upgrading your 
processor is more trouble than what its worth.  Won't upgrading the processor 
also mean a new heat sync and fan as well?  The easiest way to improve 
performance is to always upgrade RAM

IMO.

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of 
> diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of the 
> system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing 
> something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you aren't 
> setting expectations too high after your upgrade.
> 
> I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. is 
> only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old drive 
> probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch space. 
> You have four bays afterall.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote:
>> Good evening all,
>> 
>> I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 
>> quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing at 
>> all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores for 
>> productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If 
>> interested, please hit me back.
>> 
>> One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50.
>> 
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Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage

I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with 
acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach 
them to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that.


CB

On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I was thinking the same thing.  In more cases than not, upgrading your 
processor is more trouble than what its worth.  Won't upgrading the processor 
also mean a new heat sync and fan as well?  The easiest way to improve 
performance is to always upgrade RAM

IMO.

Ricardo Walker
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On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of 
diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of the 
system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing something 
that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you aren't setting 
expectations too high after your upgrade.

I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. is 
only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old drive 
probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch space. 
You have four bays afterall.

CB

On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote:

Good evening all,

I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 quad-core 
chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing at all wrong 
with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores for productivity. 
I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If interested, please hit 
me back.

One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50.


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Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage

Ah!

Ok.  Because faster processors generally mean more heat and sometimes a new 
heat sink is needed to dissipate that heat.  I'm studying for my A+ 
certification so, I'm a newby to this and I'm soaking it all in.  

Thanks.

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On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with 
> acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach them 
> to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was thinking the same thing.  In more cases than not, upgrading your 
>> processor is more trouble than what its worth.  Won't upgrading the 
>> processor also mean a new heat sync and fan as well?  The easiest way to 
>> improve performance is to always upgrade RAM
>> 
>> IMO.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of 
>>> diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of 
>>> the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing 
>>> something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you 
>>> aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade.
>>> 
>>> I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. 
>>> is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old 
>>> drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch 
>>> space. You have four bays afterall.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote:
 Good evening all,
 
 I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 
 quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing 
 at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores 
 for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If 
 interested, please hit me back.
 
 One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50.
 
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Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage

Well, not saying the info in that article was correct :) They may have 
not bothered upgrading and if you did, would it still fit in the Apple 
case, and would it be cost effective if you had to add two new heatsinks 
into the equation.


CB

On 4/18/12 12:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Ah!

Ok.  Because faster processors generally mean more heat and sometimes a new 
heat sink is needed to dissipate that heat.  I'm studying for my A+ 
certification so, I'm a newby to this and I'm soaking it all in.

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with acetone 
used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach them to the 
new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that.

CB

On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I was thinking the same thing.  In more cases than not, upgrading your 
processor is more trouble than what its worth.  Won't upgrading the processor 
also mean a new heat sync and fan as well?  The easiest way to improve 
performance is to always upgrade RAM

IMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch   wrote:


I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of 
diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of the 
system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing something 
that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you aren't setting 
expectations too high after your upgrade.

I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. is 
only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old drive 
probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch space. 
You have four bays afterall.

CB

On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote:

Good evening all,

I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 quad-core 
chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing at all wrong 
with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores for productivity. 
I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If interested, please hit 
me back.

One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50.


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Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.

Ah, ok. Well, in the mobile site, you can navigate by links with VO-command-L. 
On the full site, you can navigate by headings. each newsfeed heading is a 
level 6, so once you get to a newsfeed on heading level 6, you can then either 
press VO-command-h or VO-command-M (for same heading number.

You can also use the VO rotor with VO-U, then find the headings with VO 
right-arrow. Once you reach the headings area, just press down-arrow to go 
through them.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> I have lots of trouble moving from one newsfeed item to the other.
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some 
>> more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a 
>> particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with?
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily?
>>> That's the one I used on windows.
>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook.
>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of 
 folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them.
 
 Teresa
 
 "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 
> Theresa,
> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm.
> Now, for another harder question.
> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari.
> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac?
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Stacey,
>> 
>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow 
>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
>> 
>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you 
>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press 
>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing 
>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on 
>> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to 
>> on the items.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte 
>> Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is there an easy way to 
>>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>>> If so, how do I do this.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: Using a mouse

2012-04-17 Thread Mike Malarsie

Awesome. Thanks everyone. 

Mike Malarsie 



On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Oh!  just to add, you don't need to plug in a mouse to do this either.  you 
> can use your trackpad with trackpad commander turned off and get the same 
> result.
> 
> hth
> 
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> 
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Michael Malarsie  
> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings everyone,
>>If I plug a mouse into my Macbook is there an option to make the Voice 
>> Over call out what is under the cursor?
>>Are there any mouse options to mess with at all? I didn't find anything 
>> interesting in Universal Access and just wanted to find out is maybe I was 
>> just missing something.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Malarsie 
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Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage

True.

I guess if its going into a 17 inch MBP, 27" iMac or, Mac pro, a new heat sink 
is almost guaranteed to fit.  Apple only uses a hand full of cases, and only 
certain models can support that processor on the board.  

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On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Well, not saying the info in that article was correct :) They may have not 
> bothered upgrading and if you did, would it still fit in the Apple case, and 
> would it be cost effective if you had to add two new heatsinks into the 
> equation.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/18/12 12:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Ah!
>> 
>> Ok.  Because faster processors generally mean more heat and sometimes a new 
>> heat sink is needed to dissipate that heat.  I'm studying for my A+ 
>> certification so, I'm a newby to this and I'm soaking it all in.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with 
>>> acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach 
>>> them to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was thinking the same thing.  In more cases than not, upgrading your 
 processor is more trouble than what its worth.  Won't upgrading the 
 processor also mean a new heat sync and fan as well?  The easiest way to 
 improve performance is to always upgrade RAM
 
 IMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch   wrote:
 
> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of 
> diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of 
> the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing 
> something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you 
> aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade.
> 
> I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty 
> etc. is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your 
> old drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some 
> scratch space. You have four bays afterall.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote:
>> Good evening all,
>> 
>> I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 
>> quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. 
>> Nothing at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 
>> more cores for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 
>> shipping. If interested, please hit me back.
>> 
>> One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking 
>> $50.
>> 
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Re: Selecting files using vo.

Hi,

I don't find it necessary to turn cursor tracking off.  When in the finder, I 
just make sure I'm interacting with the browser, pressVO command space on the 
item I want to select, and make sure I go to the next item by pressing VO up or 
down arrow.  Just using the arrows by themselves will deselect whatever you 
have selected.in 

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> Hi, Stacey,
> 
> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. 
> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky.
> 
> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't 
> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar 
> to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished 
> selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then 
> perform whichever actions you need to on the items.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Is there an easy way to 
>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard.
>> If so, how do I do this.
>> Thank you.
>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
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Re: Using a mouse

Hello Mike,

In VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity category, select the Announcements tab and  
check the check box Speak text under mouse after delay. Then set the delay to 
zero. When you run one finger over the trackpad, VO will speak what is under 
the mouse.

Cheers,

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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.