Re: redownloading lion from app store

[Ray Foret Jr]

Two solutions come to mind here.

1.  Look at your past purchases.  You will see Lion there.  There will, I 
believe, be an option to download again and you will not be charged.

2.  Shut down your machine and then do the following.

A.  Press power then command+r.

b.  Now, after about 45 seconds after the sound, press command+F5 to start 
Voice Over.

c.  Now, from the app table which occurs, choose to reinstall.

d.  A fresh version will download to your machine.  You will be asked whether 
you agree to the license and all that.  Say no.  At least, I think that's how 
that second option works.


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On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:

> Hi everyone, I am trying to reinstall my native lion mba without using wired 
> ethernet. Is there a way to redownload lion from the appstore when it is 
> already installed on your system?
> Thanks in advance
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Ricardo,

I thought about that, but here is a question that perhaps you will have an 
answer for. So, I have to use my APple ID to setup the Home Sharing. If I were 
setup a separate iTune library, how do I tell the Apple TV which library to 
use? In particular because the APple TV is connecting to the machine where all 
the media lives. I have not been able to find an answer to this, so all 
thoughts welcome.

THanks,

On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Why not set up another iTunes library just for this purpose?  Its sounds like 
> the easiest way to segregate your content.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am trying to figure out how I can share specific content via Home Sharing. 
>> I do not want to expose my entire music catalog, but only specific videos 
>> etc. I have not found a way to do this. The idea is to share these videos so 
>> they can be played on the Apple TV. Does anyone have any suggestions on how 
>> I can just share the content I want instead of everything?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Hi Tim,

As I said to Ricardo, this idea crossed my mind, but I am not sure how to tell 
the APple TV once I use my iCloud/iTunes ID which library needs to be used. I 
assume the first order of business it is to simply create the library by 
holding down the option key at startup and setting up the library should be no 
problem. In fact I could put it on the external drive with the video content. 
So, just need to know how to get the APple TV to only see that library and 
especially since it will be on the same machine.
Of course I'm sure this will be a "ah" moment once I hear the solution. :)

Thanks,

On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> I've only been able to restrict things when using the Sharing pane of iTunes 
> Preferences, not when using Home sharing.  The problem is that the Apple TV 2 
> uses Home sharing so I, so far, think the second Library idea is your best 
> option.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2012-02-05, at 2:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am trying to figure out how I can share specific content via Home Sharing. 
>> I do not want to expose my entire music catalog, but only specific videos 
>> etc. I have not found a way to do this. The idea is to share these videos so 
>> they can be played on the Apple TV. Does anyone have any suggestions on how 
>> I can just share the content I want instead of everything?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Fwd: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

> Tim and Ricardo,
> 
> I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
> there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
> have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use 
> my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.
> 
> THanks,
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I don't see why you shouldn't be able to use the same apple ID your using now 
in the new library.  I'm not 100% certain of this but, I would think your Apple 
TV would share with whatever library happens to be active at the time.  I'm 
pretty curious to know how this turns out. lol

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> I thought about that, but here is a question that perhaps you will have an 
> answer for. So, I have to use my APple ID to setup the Home Sharing. If I 
> were setup a separate iTune library, how do I tell the Apple TV which library 
> to use? In particular because the APple TV is connecting to the machine where 
> all the media lives. I have not been able to find an answer to this, so all 
> thoughts welcome.
> 
> THanks,
> 
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Why not set up another iTunes library just for this purpose?  Its sounds 
>> like the easiest way to segregate your content.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am trying to figure out how I can share specific content via Home 
>>> Sharing. I do not want to expose my entire music catalog, but only specific 
>>> videos etc. I have not found a way to do this. The idea is to share these 
>>> videos so they can be played on the Apple TV. Does anyone have any 
>>> suggestions on how I can just share the content I want instead of 
>>> everything?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: redownloading lion from app store

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Scott, i will try the past purchases option thanks for that, the problem 
with recovery is that i dont have wired internet and dont think recovery 
automatically connects to my wifi, but i will see what past purchases does.
Thanks
Greetings, Anouk,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Two solutions come to mind here.
> 
> 1.  Look at your past purchases.  You will see Lion there.  There will, I 
> believe, be an option to download again and you will not be charged.
> 
> 2.  Shut down your machine and then do the following.
> 
> A.  Press power then command+r.
> 
> b.  Now, after about 45 seconds after the sound, press command+F5 to start 
> Voice Over.
> 
> c.  Now, from the app table which occurs, choose to reinstall.
> 
> d.  A fresh version will download to your machine.  You will be asked whether 
> you agree to the license and all that.  Say no.  At least, I think that's how 
> that second option works.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I am trying to reinstall my native lion mba without using wired 
>> ethernet. Is there a way to redownload lion from the appstore when it is 
>> already installed on your system?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: my itunes is terrible since updating Lion.

[Chris Blouch]

Would this be easier via the terminal? Launch terminal and then type (or 
copy paste):


cd ~/Library/Preferences

then

rm com.apple.iTunes.plist
rm com.apple.iTunesHelper.plist

CB

On 2/5/12 3:59 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
in an update to this, these files can be found but an application 
called tinkertool is needed to uncover the hidden files.


tinkertool can be found here:

http://bresink.de/osx/0TinkerTool/download.php5

please be aware that if you show all files including hidden files, you 
will see critical used files for OS X. these MUST NOT be touched 
unless you are a competent systems technician or administrator with 
recovery experience.


when you load this software, simply copy the tinkertool app to your 
applications folder. from here, run it, it will display a welcome and 
warning notice in 1 stating that the software can make changes to the 
system which if used incorrectly can harm OS X.


the only area to tick is the first box saying "Show hidden and system 
files"


once done, close the app and restart OS X for changes to take effect. 
you may also log out and log in to apply changes.


Please be aware that on your desktop you will see additional files. 
Don't delete or touch them.


go to /users/"USER"/library/preferences (/libary/preferences is a 
hidden folder for a reason)


now that you are able to gain access to this, now remove the two 
following files...


com.apple.itunes.plist
com.apple.itunesHelper.plist.

close the window

go back to applications and launch tinkertool.

uncheck "show hidden and system files"

quit the app, log out and log back in.

now relaunch itunes.

PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS A FIX ONLY FOR OS X 10.7 ONWARDS DUE TO THE WAY 
THE FINDER WORKS WITH FILE SECURITY!


other than the additional steps of using tinker tool in OS X 10.7 
upwards, the proceedure is pretty much the same for earlier versions.


lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 20:24, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:


Well everyone,

My itunes is terrible since updating to the latest version of Lion 
and as Lew has explained to you all Ithe necessary files can't be 
found to correct Itunes.  I'm still waiting to see if anyone's Itunes 
has been affected.  All I want to do is to get my I phone 4S to sync 
wirelessly when I format the phone to get it working again as it 
should.  I simply can't understand why Itunes should be fine 
yesterday and today it's frankly crap excuse the language.


Kawal.

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Re: Home Sharing question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

>> Tim and Ricardo,
>> 
>> I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
>> suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing 
>> work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I 
>> cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't 
>> gonna work.
>> 
>> THanks,
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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Re: converting tapes to MP3

[Chris Blouch]

The actual process or bringing the audio in should require no extra 
hardware or software. As was previously stated, use a standard consumer 
stand-alone tape deck that has the typical RCA left and right out and 
use an RCA to mini headphone cable to run that to the audio in jack on 
your computer. You don't want speaker or headphone output as the signal 
would be too hot and cause distorted audio. To record you could use 
little more than QuickTime Player and choose New Audio Recording from 
the File menu. In the audio recording window you'll find a Start 
Recording button and to the right of that a Recording Options menu. From 
that menu, make sure you have checkmarked Built-in Input Line-In and not 
the Microphone. After that start recording and then press play on your 
tape deck. When you're done recording just quit Quicktime. There is 
nothing to save as it writes stuff out to your hard drive as it goes 
along. You should have a file called Audio Recoding in your Movies 
folder unless you changed some preferences. That file will be an AIFF 
which is uncompressed high quality. You can then edit that with any 
number of previously mentioned tools or just bring it into iTunes to 
convert to mp3.


CB

On 2/5/12 7:20 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

The short answer is, Yes.  You should use Audio High-Jack Pro to bring the 
music into your Mac.  You would need a typical home stereo tape deck or any 
tape player with RCA outputs.  I guess that you could use a tape player with a 
headphone out, but the quality would be diminished when using this method.

My suggestion would be to use the home stereo style tape deck.  Connect a 
stereo RCA to 1/8 inch headphone jack style cable between the tape deck and the 
computer.  The RCA jacks connect to the left and right outs from the tape deck 
and put the 1/8 inch jack into the line-in of the Mac.  Start up Audio 
High-Jack Pro, select Line-In as your Input source and begin recording.  You 
can then use Audacity, Amadeus Pro or Fission as your audio editor to trim 
everything up.

That should do it.

Later...

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Hi guys:
Is it possible for a blind person to convert tapes to MP3 files using a Mac 
with Voiceover? If so, what is needed to do this, and what is the process?

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Re: Home Sharing question

[Chris Blouch]

As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can 
connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output 
from DVDs and such.


That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with 
two users logged in.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my 
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Hey Tim,

Well for now I scrapped the entire idea and just have to accept that everything 
is exposed. I wish I could use my NAS device for this, but apparently it will 
not work because the APple TV 2nd generation has to authenticate back to a 
running version of iTunes. Apple really needs to do a bit of work on Home 
Sharing in order to ensure a little bit more control. After all you might have 
small children that you would like to have access to some content and not other 
content. Of course you are correct in that I could run a VM and I could avoid 
running windows by instead running Linux and setting up DAAP, but this seems 
like a lot of workaround for no good reason. :)
Of course any other ideas I'm more than happy to hear them.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
> once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
> actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need 
> sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was 
> also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to 
> use a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only 
> applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have 
> volume restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.
> 
> Not helping much, am I?
> 
> Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
> could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
> simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows 
> though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
> 
> I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>>> Tim and Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
>>> suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing 
>>> work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I 
>>> cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea 
>>> ain't gonna work.
>>> 
>>> THanks,
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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Re: Mac app store help

[Chris Blouch]

So far I haven't had any updates to apps I purchased through the 
AppStore. If there are updates will they just show up in the regular 
Software Update process or do I have to go into the Mac App Store and 
get updates there? Would be nice if they would integrate it into the 
regular software update process so it would just pick those up along 
with system patches.


CB

On 2/5/12 1:03 PM, elena brescacin wrote:

hello,
of course i can help
it's the first time i write here  but i have a macbook pro since last September
well,
for your question:
first of all, the access key for search field, is command+f
to access the updates, just press  command+5.
you find all keyboard shortcuts by accessing the menu bar,with vo+m, from app 
store window, and going to Store menu, with right arrow, then go down
you have the same concept of iOS. categories, search, update and so on
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done 
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her 
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could 
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is 
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want 
> real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack 
> is actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical 
> surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.
> 
> That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
> instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work 
> was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in 
> running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could 
> share two libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work 
>> as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
>> actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need 
>> sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was 
>> also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to 
>> use a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only 
>> applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have 
>> volume restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as 
>> well.
>> 
>> Not helping much, am I?
>> 
>> Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
>> could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
>> simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows 
>> though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
>> 
>> I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing 
 work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I 
 cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea 
 ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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RE: Funny Siri story

[Sarah May]

 

Eric,

 

I found that hilarious!  I bet it was quite embarrassing to explain what
happened to your co-workers.

 

Sarah

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Funny Siri story

 

OK, 

 

I don't know how helpful these are to iPhone users but I have a
Siri story too.  I'm not making this up.

 

First,  I sometimes have trouble with Siri commands because Voice Over will
be talking and Siri thinks this is part of what I'm asking.  The other day,
at work no less, this happened.  My laughter brought in co workers and I was
embarrassed to tell them what happened.

 

I asked some innocent conversion question but Voice over was talking. Siri
spoke bak the question as"No sex tonight?"  Then while I was still
recovering from that surprise question she answered. "No, probably not."  

 

Only my questioning co workers presence in my doorway got me to stop
laughing and wonder how I was going to explain myself out of this mess.

 

In a effort to make this thread list worthy, I have a tip.  I learned
listening to the Vision Australia podcasts that once Siri is activated a two
finger double tap will act like tapping the Siri button.  I find this
reduces errors including embarrassing ones.

 

 

Eric Caron 

 

 

 

On Feb 5, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:





Hi,

I have a funny siri story too, I asked siri what date President's Day was
this year, and she said the date, then proceeded to say "I hope I get off
that day". For those of you who aren't in the U.S., people usually get off
of work and school on President's Day. I just thought that was funny what
siri said.

Courtney

On 05/02/2012, at 12:01 in the Afternoon, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:





Gigi,

 

Thank you so much for the laugh.

 

I also have a funny story as I asked Siri what the time was in another part
of the world, and after she told me, she asked if there was anything going
on in that part of the world as I had asked her the same question for a
number of days.  I said to her that she was nosy and she said if you insist
Kawal.  That also cracked me up.

On 5 Feb 2012, at 16:32, Gigi wrote:





Hi guys 

I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me
two or three times, I snapped at her. I said "those California guys need to
do a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. "After giving me
back what I had said, she said "give me another chance." Well, she didn't
give me the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was laughing so much
it didn't matter.
Regards
Gigi

 

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Re: Hi

[Chris Blouch]

Well, it requires something that seems like a monitor to be plugged in. 
With enough dongles and things you can make it think there is a monitor 
connected which resolves its issues. Here's a good chance to try and 
catch up on the archives where this topic was discussed and resolved 
although it sure would be nice to have Apple just fix it. The basic 
solution was a Mini to VGA adapter and then connect a VGA to NTSC/PAL 
adapter.  These two adapters were about $30 each so you're into $60-70 
to fake a monitor. Without this the Mini seems to scan relentlessly to 
read the specs from the non-existent display causing the machine to bog 
down and give 'voiceover busy' messages when nothing much is going on.


CB

On 2/5/12 11:57 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on then if 
VO requires a monitor.



Christopher H

On 05/02/2012 13:33, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

hey and good to hear from you.

depending on whether you need a machine that's going to travel with you
or a desktop solution, for me, I'd always recommend a macbook pro. I
have the 15" model which is about to take a serious upgrade shortly.
about to install 8gb ram and a 1tb drive for data storage, etc. so the
macbook pro in my opinion is a solid choice. it's built like a tank,
very comfortable and the keyboard feels like a dream unlike windows
based systems. mind you I've grown up with laptops mainly as well as
working with desktops both windows and mac.

the mac mini is a really nice system to go for but there are a few
slight disadvantages here as a few users have noticed. one issue is that
the mac mini when using voiceover needs access to a monitor. this is a
hardware and software issue but the cheat from what I notice is getting
the apple DVI or VGA adaptor and connecting it, that way it finds a
monitor port as a reference.

if you want a machine that has a really warm sound to the speakers, I
would also recommend the iMac. the speakers really do offer a nice
balanced and warm tone.

best thing to do is go into your nearest apple store and get a feel for
each machine. be aware that apple store staff are not trained in
voiceover and accessibility requirements other than basics.

are you in the UK?

if so, drop me a line off list at freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net
 and I'd be happy to help
where possible.

lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 13:19, chris hallsworth wrote:


Thanks Lu, that sounds interesting your job. Well done on that. Keep
it up. While the mac technology is so expensive, you can see just why.
Apple both designs and makes the equipment, instead of hiring out
contractors to do the work themselves. Also, unlike the PC, you don't
get any crapware, excuse the explicits, on a mac. So again, you can
see just why they are so expensive.


Christopher H

On 05/02/2012 10:34, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

Hi chris, welcome aboard.

you'll find the mac an easy OS to handle, voiceover as intuitive as
windows and stable. If you need any help, feel free to ask whatever
questions re the mac, voiceover, etc and we're all here to help.

I'm a mac systems engineer and founder of a charity here in the UK
called Free Macs For The Blind which caters for supply of working 
older

macs for blind users who can't afford new technology. so have a
background in system repairs and advanced maintenance / instalations.

I use a macbook pro 2010 edition for all my contract needs from
diagnostics to recovery work and love voiceover to bits. couldn't be
without it.

I'm using windows though on a separate system to run some tools of the
trade but hey, computers are computers.

lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 10:29, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all.
I have just joined this list. Thanks to the owners for approving my
membership. Much appreciated.
I am here because I am thinking of getting a mac, purely for a 
change,

as my next computer. I have been using Windows since 1997, and I am
willing to take the challenge. If I can operate an iPod Touch or an
iPhone, surely I can operate a mac. That's my philosophy anyway.
So thought I would come here.
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Bugs in Mail

[Becky Knaub]

Hi Guys,
Has anyone noticed that when you delete messages they don't leave the mail box 
unless you close and reopen the app? So if anyone's had this problem besides me 
after I updated? If so does anyone know how to get rid of it?

Thanks

Becky and C the cute black lab

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Re: time machine?

[Chris Blouch]

Right, so any malware floating around on your Windows box can now mess 
with your mac files. This is why I run McAfee or the like on my Windows 
virtual machines. But the end result is that there is nothing 
irreplaceable on my virtual machines so I can toss it in the trash and 
start over if I need to. The rest goes into a common folder and is 
backed up by TimeMachine.


CB

On 2/4/12 5:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

In that case Chris it would make sense to share a folder as you said. I never 
save documents or anything in a VM for that reason. Of course if your wise you 
limit the VM i.e. windows to only see one folder which is a security measure.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:


While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to share the 
documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows instance. That would be a 
nice way to get your windows documents backed up, although it wouldn't help 
with the rest of your Windows setup. Normally you don't want to have the 
virtual machine image backed up by time machine because it is a giant 
monolithic file. So one little change made under Windows and the entire 
multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged for backing up again. Possible if you are 
on a local fast big time machine drive, but still kind of a waste.

CB

On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Alex,

I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to the 
same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but nothing is 
necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a well crafted 
APple script on the Mac side.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
settings and apps.

On 2/3/12, agent086b   wrote:

Hi,
I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
Max.

 Original Message  
Subject: Re: time machine?
From: Alex Hall
To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500

Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
your January 1 backup.
What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
hope that makes sense.

On 2/3/12, Scott Howellwrote:

Alex answers follow below:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

1. Will any external hard drive work?

ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure
you
have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
up.
THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.



2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
Windows computers?

I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
care
of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.


3. Is time machine fully accessible?

I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.



4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
just browse to that file and copy it like normal?

Yes.


5. Is anything not backed up?

The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that
have
no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of
the
OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would
not
want these files.


6. If I had to restore, and I had newer 

Re: redownloading lion from app store

[Steve Holmes]

Surprisingly, when I did a re-install using the recovery partition, it
did use my previous system settings so it went on to my wireless LAN
without incident.  Since this was a first for me, I was very
pleasantly surprised and shocked that the recovery partition would
include VO; usually such environments are very much stripped down.
All and all, through that whole process, my user settings were
unaffected.

On 2/6/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> Two solutions come to mind here.
>
> 1.  Look at your past purchases.  You will see Lion there.  There will, I
> believe, be an option to download again and you will not be charged.
>
> 2.  Shut down your machine and then do the following.
>
> A.  Press power then command+r.
>
> b.  Now, after about 45 seconds after the sound, press command+F5 to start
> Voice Over.
>
> c.  Now, from the app table which occurs, choose to reinstall.
>
> d.  A fresh version will download to your machine.  You will be asked
> whether you agree to the license and all that.  Say no.  At least, I think
> that's how that second option works.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, I am trying to reinstall my native lion mba without using
>> wired ethernet. Is there a way to redownload lion from the appstore when
>> it is already installed on your system?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: time machine?

[Chris Blouch]

I know VMWare will create extents in defined size chunks such as 2GB. So 
when you create the virtual machine you tell it to have a 40GB hard 
drive, but it doesn't go off and make a 40GB file on your hard drive. 
Instead it makes a 2GB file. Once you write enough stuff to fill that up 
it allocates another 2GB etc. This is done transparently to Windows so 
it thinks it has 40GB to play with when the actual Mac disk space usage 
is much less. That said, a single preference setting change might update 
one little text file, marking one of the 2GB pieces as being changed and 
needing backed up. Usually, if you backup your virtual machine hard 
drive at all, you'll always end up backing up the entire allocated 
virtual machine drive space every time TimeMachine runs, as long as you 
have the virtual machine up and running.


CB

On 2/5/12 1:30 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

A few points.

1. There are a couple of  full disk backup utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner and 
SuperDuper ) come to mind immediately.
2. I believe at least one VM version out there creates its disk images in a 
bundle that would allow TimeMachine to not need to copy everything for one 
small change.
3.   THere is at least one off-site storage solution that allows one to use a 
friends machine for the backups.

Best regards,

Jonathan C. Cohn
jonc...@cox.net



On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


In that case Chris it would make sense to share a folder as you said. I never 
save documents or anything in a VM for that reason. Of course if your wise you 
limit the VM i.e. windows to only see one folder which is a security measure.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:


While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to share the 
documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows instance. That would be a 
nice way to get your windows documents backed up, although it wouldn't help 
with the rest of your Windows setup. Normally you don't want to have the 
virtual machine image backed up by time machine because it is a giant 
monolithic file. So one little change made under Windows and the entire 
multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged for backing up again. Possible if you are 
on a local fast big time machine drive, but still kind of a waste.

CB

On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Alex,

I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to the 
same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but nothing is 
necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a well crafted 
APple script on the Mac side.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
settings and apps.

On 2/3/12, agent086b   wrote:

Hi,
I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
Max.

 Original Message  
Subject: Re: time machine?
From: Alex Hall
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500

Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
your January 1 backup.
What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
hope that makes sense.

On 2/3/12, Scott Howellwrote:

Alex answers follow below:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

1. Will any external hard drive work?

ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure
you
have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
up.
THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.



2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
partitio

Re: time machine?

[Chris Blouch]

TimeMachine just needs to backup to a Mac disk volume. Whether that is 
an internal hard drive, an external Firewire/USB drive or a drive 
mounted over a network from a remote machine/server is not really 
important. As I previously mentioned, I use desktop Mac with a big drive 
for TimeMachine backups of my laptop. Seems to work well as I plug my 
laptop into the LAN when at my desk and TimeMachine does its thing.


CB

On 2/5/12 2:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

Being quite new to this mac stuff, I know very little about time
machine; is there any way to have time machine backup to a cloud
service like Carbonite or something? I know you can use a local hard
disk or whatever but I think I would prefer a remote store for better
security.  Is this possible?



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Re: Home Sharing question

[Chris Blouch]

I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same 
Mac and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
creating a second account and then switching to that user without 
logging out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a 
pristine library with settings all its own.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done 
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her 
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could 
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is 
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want 
real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack is 
actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical 
surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.

That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work was 
setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in running 
iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could share two 
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.

CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my 
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

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Re: Mac app store help

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

you have to go into the Mac app store and then go to updates.

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On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> So far I haven't had any updates to apps I purchased through the AppStore. If 
> there are updates will they just show up in the regular Software Update 
> process or do I have to go into the Mac App Store and get updates there? 
> Would be nice if they would integrate it into the regular software update 
> process so it would just pick those up along with system patches.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/5/12 1:03 PM, elena brescacin wrote:
>> hello,
>> of course i can help
>> it's the first time i write here  but i have a macbook pro since last 
>> September
>> well,
>> for your question:
>> first of all, the access key for search field, is command+f
>> to access the updates, just press  command+5.
>> you find all keyboard shortcuts by accessing the menu bar,with vo+m, from 
>> app store window, and going to Store menu, with right arrow, then go down
>> you have the same concept of iOS. categories, search, update and so on
>> bye, hope it helps
>> 
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac and 
> both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by creating a 
> second account and then switching to that user without logging out of the 
> current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library with 
> settings all its own.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
>> done buying computers for a while. :)
>> So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as 
>> her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I 
>> could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are 
>> saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
>> Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
>> active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
>> 
>> THanks,
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
>>> want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone 
>>> jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any 
>>> typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.
>>> 
>>> That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
>>> instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work 
>>> was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in 
>>> running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I 
>>> could share two libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work 
 as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes 
 Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you 
 need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  
 I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be 
 able to use a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it 
 only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might 
 also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this 
 idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
>> Tim and Ricardo,
>> 
>> I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
>> suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
>> thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which 
>> means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, 
>> that idea ain't gonna work.
>> 
>> THanks,
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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Re: Bugs in Mail

[Scott Howell]

This may not be a bug in Mail, but the imap implementation such as found with 
Gmail.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> Has anyone noticed that when you delete messages they don't leave the mail 
> box unless you close and reopen the app? So if anyone's had this problem 
> besides me after I updated? If so does anyone know how to get rid of it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Becky and C the cute black lab
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Re: Bugs in Mail

[Steve Holmes]

I find with gmail and IMAP, the best way to "Delete" messages for good
is to Move them to Trash while in a mail client.  Yes, there is a
delete function on the web site which actually deletes messages (if
trueth be known, it moves them to trash too).  Anyway, that's what I
do in mutt, thunderbird, mail app on both mac and iPod.

On 2/6/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
> This may not be a bug in Mail, but the imap implementation such as found
> with Gmail.
>
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>> Has anyone noticed that when you delete messages they don't leave the mail
>> box unless you close and reopen the app? So if anyone's had this problem
>> besides me after I updated? If so does anyone know how to get rid of it?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Becky and C the cute black lab
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Re: Hi

[chris hallsworth]

Gosh, I don't mean to sound harsh, but that sounds like a lot of hassle! 
Let's hope Apple fixes this very soon. Cheers!



Christopher H

On 06/02/2012 16:08, Chris Blouch wrote:

Well, it requires something that seems like a monitor to be plugged in.
With enough dongles and things you can make it think there is a monitor
connected which resolves its issues. Here's a good chance to try and
catch up on the archives where this topic was discussed and resolved
although it sure would be nice to have Apple just fix it. The basic
solution was a Mini to VGA adapter and then connect a VGA to NTSC/PAL
adapter. These two adapters were about $30 each so you're into $60-70 to
fake a monitor. Without this the Mini seems to scan relentlessly to read
the specs from the non-existent display causing the machine to bog down
and give 'voiceover busy' messages when nothing much is going on.

CB

On 2/5/12 11:57 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on then if
VO requires a monitor.


Christopher H

On 05/02/2012 13:33, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

hey and good to hear from you.

depending on whether you need a machine that's going to travel with you
or a desktop solution, for me, I'd always recommend a macbook pro. I
have the 15" model which is about to take a serious upgrade shortly.
about to install 8gb ram and a 1tb drive for data storage, etc. so the
macbook pro in my opinion is a solid choice. it's built like a tank,
very comfortable and the keyboard feels like a dream unlike windows
based systems. mind you I've grown up with laptops mainly as well as
working with desktops both windows and mac.

the mac mini is a really nice system to go for but there are a few
slight disadvantages here as a few users have noticed. one issue is that
the mac mini when using voiceover needs access to a monitor. this is a
hardware and software issue but the cheat from what I notice is getting
the apple DVI or VGA adaptor and connecting it, that way it finds a
monitor port as a reference.

if you want a machine that has a really warm sound to the speakers, I
would also recommend the iMac. the speakers really do offer a nice
balanced and warm tone.

best thing to do is go into your nearest apple store and get a feel for
each machine. be aware that apple store staff are not trained in
voiceover and accessibility requirements other than basics.

are you in the UK?

if so, drop me a line off list at freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net
 and I'd be happy to help
where possible.

lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 13:19, chris hallsworth wrote:


Thanks Lu, that sounds interesting your job. Well done on that. Keep
it up. While the mac technology is so expensive, you can see just why.
Apple both designs and makes the equipment, instead of hiring out
contractors to do the work themselves. Also, unlike the PC, you don't
get any crapware, excuse the explicits, on a mac. So again, you can
see just why they are so expensive.


Christopher H

On 05/02/2012 10:34, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

Hi chris, welcome aboard.

you'll find the mac an easy OS to handle, voiceover as intuitive as
windows and stable. If you need any help, feel free to ask whatever
questions re the mac, voiceover, etc and we're all here to help.

I'm a mac systems engineer and founder of a charity here in the UK
called Free Macs For The Blind which caters for supply of working
older
macs for blind users who can't afford new technology. so have a
background in system repairs and advanced maintenance / instalations.

I use a macbook pro 2010 edition for all my contract needs from
diagnostics to recovery work and love voiceover to bits. couldn't be
without it.

I'm using windows though on a separate system to run some tools of the
trade but hey, computers are computers.

lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 10:29, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all.
I have just joined this list. Thanks to the owners for approving my
membership. Much appreciated.
I am here because I am thinking of getting a mac, purely for a
change,
as my next computer. I have been using Windows since 1997, and I am
willing to take the challenge. If I can operate an iPod Touch or an
iPhone, surely I can operate a mac. That's my philosophy anyway.
So thought I would come here.
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converting m4a to wav or mp3

[Angie Giltinan]

Hi all,
do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
Any info about his would be most helpfull!
Thanks in advance! 

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Re: Strange wireless network problem

[Bejarano, Rafael P.]

I regularly connect to the network from the Mac OS side, as I mentioned.  It's 
only when I try connecting from the Windows side that I have a problem.  I've 
tried setting up the network not to be password-protected, just to see if that 
made a difference, but it doesn't.

Rafael
On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Have you previously connected fine to this same network?  What security are 
> you using on the network?
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2012-02-05, at 7:25 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm hoping someone on this list might have some insight into a problem I'm 
>> having when trying to sign onto my home wireless network.  I'm using the 
>> airport software on a laptop (iBook g4) as the base station.  I have no 
>> problems signing into the account from my iMac, running OSX.  When I try to 
>> sign in from the Windows OS, which is installed natively on the same iMac, 
>> the account shows up as having weak signal strength.  If I select the 
>> account, another dialog pops up, stating that the network may no longer be 
>> available.
>> 
>> Any thoughts or suggestions are most welcome.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> Rafael  Bejarano   
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Re: Mac app store help

[Kirsten Edmondson]

Chris, on the app store icon in my dock it will tell me I have updates and how 
many. Now I can actually update them too. 


Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi,
> 
> you have to go into the Mac app store and then go to updates.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> So far I haven't had any updates to apps I purchased through the AppStore. 
>> If there are updates will they just show up in the regular Software Update 
>> process or do I have to go into the Mac App Store and get updates there? 
>> Would be nice if they would integrate it into the regular software update 
>> process so it would just pick those up along with system patches.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/5/12 1:03 PM, elena brescacin wrote:
>>> hello,
>>> of course i can help
>>> it's the first time i write here  but i have a macbook pro since last 
>>> September
>>> well,
>>> for your question:
>>> first of all, the access key for search field, is command+f
>>> to access the updates, just press  command+5.
>>> you find all keyboard shortcuts by accessing the menu bar,with vo+m, from 
>>> app store window, and going to Store menu, with right arrow, then go down
>>> you have the same concept of iOS. categories, search, update and so on
>>> bye, hope it helps
>>> 
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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

[Chris Blouch]

Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes 
and then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.


CB

On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

Hi all,
do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
Any info about his would be most helpfull!
Thanks in advance!



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Re: Hi

[Chris Blouch]

Yup. Question is whether this is a software or hardware glitch. If it's 
hardware we might not see a fix except in newer boxes.


CB

On 2/6/12 12:31 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
Gosh, I don't mean to sound harsh, but that sounds like a lot of 
hassle! Let's hope Apple fixes this very soon. Cheers!



Christopher H

On 06/02/2012 16:08, Chris Blouch wrote:

Well, it requires something that seems like a monitor to be plugged in.
With enough dongles and things you can make it think there is a monitor
connected which resolves its issues. Here's a good chance to try and
catch up on the archives where this topic was discussed and resolved
although it sure would be nice to have Apple just fix it. The basic
solution was a Mini to VGA adapter and then connect a VGA to NTSC/PAL
adapter. These two adapters were about $30 each so you're into $60-70 to
fake a monitor. Without this the Mini seems to scan relentlessly to read
the specs from the non-existent display causing the machine to bog down
and give 'voiceover busy' messages when nothing much is going on.

CB

On 2/5/12 11:57 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

Thanks Lu, ar I see. Well the Mac Mini I will possibly pass on then if
VO requires a monitor.


Christopher H

On 05/02/2012 13:33, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

hey and good to hear from you.

depending on whether you need a machine that's going to travel with 
you

or a desktop solution, for me, I'd always recommend a macbook pro. I
have the 15" model which is about to take a serious upgrade shortly.
about to install 8gb ram and a 1tb drive for data storage, etc. so the
macbook pro in my opinion is a solid choice. it's built like a tank,
very comfortable and the keyboard feels like a dream unlike windows
based systems. mind you I've grown up with laptops mainly as well as
working with desktops both windows and mac.

the mac mini is a really nice system to go for but there are a few
slight disadvantages here as a few users have noticed. one issue is 
that

the mac mini when using voiceover needs access to a monitor. this is a
hardware and software issue but the cheat from what I notice is 
getting

the apple DVI or VGA adaptor and connecting it, that way it finds a
monitor port as a reference.

if you want a machine that has a really warm sound to the speakers, I
would also recommend the iMac. the speakers really do offer a nice
balanced and warm tone.

best thing to do is go into your nearest apple store and get a feel 
for

each machine. be aware that apple store staff are not trained in
voiceover and accessibility requirements other than basics.

are you in the UK?

if so, drop me a line off list at freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net
 and I'd be happy to help
where possible.

lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 13:19, chris hallsworth wrote:


Thanks Lu, that sounds interesting your job. Well done on that. Keep
it up. While the mac technology is so expensive, you can see just 
why.

Apple both designs and makes the equipment, instead of hiring out
contractors to do the work themselves. Also, unlike the PC, you don't
get any crapware, excuse the explicits, on a mac. So again, you can
see just why they are so expensive.


Christopher H

On 05/02/2012 10:34, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

Hi chris, welcome aboard.

you'll find the mac an easy OS to handle, voiceover as intuitive as
windows and stable. If you need any help, feel free to ask whatever
questions re the mac, voiceover, etc and we're all here to help.

I'm a mac systems engineer and founder of a charity here in the UK
called Free Macs For The Blind which caters for supply of working
older
macs for blind users who can't afford new technology. so have a
background in system repairs and advanced maintenance / 
instalations.


I use a macbook pro 2010 edition for all my contract needs from
diagnostics to recovery work and love voiceover to bits. couldn't be
without it.

I'm using windows though on a separate system to run some tools 
of the

trade but hey, computers are computers.

lew

On 5 Feb 2012, at 10:29, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all.
I have just joined this list. Thanks to the owners for approving my
membership. Much appreciated.
I am here because I am thinking of getting a mac, purely for a
change,
as my next computer. I have been using Windows since 1997, and I am
willing to take the challenge. If I can operate an iPod Touch or an
iPhone, surely I can operate a mac. That's my philosophy anyway.
So thought I would come here.
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Re: Funny Siri story

[Jessica]

Lol, that's hilarious.  I just found out my dad's gf just got the IPhone, and 
apparently has the same trouble with it not understanding her, and he told me 
she calls it a "dumb bitch;" not sure how Cerie responds to that though lol.
  I thought it was pretty wild when he told me that though.  Just out of 
curiosity though, is her voice really as robotic as the demonstrations they 
show on some of those TV shows where they've programmed her to say really 
off-the-wall stuff?
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  From: Gigi 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:32 AM
  Subject: Funny Siri story


Hi guys 
  I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me 
two or three times, I snapped at her. I said "those California guys need to do 
a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. "After giving me back 
what I had said, she said "give me another chance." Well, she didn't give me 
the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was laughing so much it didn't 
matter.
  Regards
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Chris Blouch]

You can be logged into one box multiple times as different users, each 
running a copy of iTunes. Each instance of iTunes has it's own library 
and preferences. So I was logged into my laptop both as myself and an 
account I called Test. Each one ran iTunes and had sharing turned on. 
Then on another Mac I pulled up iTunes and saw both "Chris Blouch's 
Library" and "Test's Library" as choices. You'll want to turn on Show 
fast user switching menu in the Preferences Users & Groups Login 
Options. Then you'll have a new "user menu" to the right of the clock in 
the menu bar (VO-M twice and the VO-right a couple times). You should be 
able to pick each user in turn there to switch back and forth. As a new 
account you'll need to turn voiceover on again along with any other 
favorite preference changes since it will all be stock.


CB

On 2/6/12 12:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac and 
both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by creating a 
second account and then switching to that user without logging out of the 
current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library with settings 
all its own.

CB

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done 
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her 
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could 
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is 
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want 
real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack is 
actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical 
surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.

That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work was 
setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in running 
iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could share two 
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.

CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my 
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

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Re: Home Sharing question

[TIM KILBURN]

Hi Scott,
> 
> If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
> actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be able 
> to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using Fast User 
> Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users by selecting 
> them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status menu, VO-M-M.
> 
> Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory running a 
> second OS.
> 
> Later...

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:

> Chris,
> 
> Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
> something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
> iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
> possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
>> and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
>> creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
>> out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library 
>> with settings all its own.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
>>> done buying computers for a while. :)
>>> So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as 
>>> her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how 
>>> I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are 
>>> saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
>>> Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
>>> active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
>>> 
>>> THanks,
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
 want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
 to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
 and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
 work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
 logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
 users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
> work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes 
> Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and 
> you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be 
> golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, 
> you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation except, at the 
> moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  
> You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could 
> interfere with this idea as well.
> 
> Not helping much, am I?
> 
> Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
> could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
> simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
> Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
> 
> I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>>> Tim and Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
>>> suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
>>> thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active 
>>> which means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. 
>>> So, that idea ain't gonna work.
>>> 
>>> THanks,
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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Re: Funny Siri story

[Buddy Brannan]

Siri sounds exactly like whatever voice you're using withVoiceover. Or, if 
you're not using Voiceover, she sounds like whatever voice is your default 
language. Which means she might sound like Daniel. But for a bunch of us, 
Samantha. I, personally, have switched my Voiceover to be Karen. 

Now, though, I'm playing with this jailbreak app called Hands Free Control. It 
slows down responsiveness over all somewhat, but it's pretty slick anyhow. 
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On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Jessica wrote:

> Lol, that's hilarious.  I just found out my dad's gf just got the IPhone, and 
> apparently has the same trouble with it not understanding her, and he told me 
> she calls it a "dumb bitch;" not sure how Cerie responds to that though lol.
>   I thought it was pretty wild when he told me that though.  Just out of 
> curiosity though, is her voice really as robotic as the demonstrations they 
> show on some of those TV shows where they've programmed her to say really 
> off-the-wall stuff?
> - Original Message -
> From: Gigi
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:32 AM
> Subject: Funny Siri story
> 
>> Hi guys
> I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me 
> two or three times, I snapped at her. I said "those California guys need to 
> do a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. "After giving me 
> back what I had said, she said "give me another chance." Well, she didn't 
> give me the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was laughing so much 
> it didn't matter.
> Regards
> Gigi
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Re: Funny Siri story

[Jessica]

Oh wow, that sounds interesting.  I've always been curious about that, 
seeing as how the cut-up's they did on TV with it, made it sound a lot like 
Ms voice command.
- Original Message - 
From: "Buddy Brannan" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Funny Siri story


Siri sounds exactly like whatever voice you're using withVoiceover. Or, if 
you're not using Voiceover, she sounds like whatever voice is your default 
language. Which means she might sound like Daniel. But for a bunch of us, 
Samantha. I, personally, have switched my Voiceover to be Karen.


Now, though, I'm playing with this jailbreak app called Hands Free Control. 
It slows down responsiveness over all somewhat, but it's pretty slick 
anyhow.

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On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Jessica wrote:

Lol, that's hilarious.  I just found out my dad's gf just got the IPhone, 
and apparently has the same trouble with it not understanding her, and he 
told me she calls it a "dumb bitch;" not sure how Cerie responds to that 
though lol.
  I thought it was pretty wild when he told me that though.  Just out of 
curiosity though, is her voice really as robotic as the demonstrations 
they show on some of those TV shows where they've programmed her to say 
really off-the-wall stuff?

- Original Message -
From: Gigi
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:32 AM
Subject: Funny Siri story


Hi guys
I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me 
two or three times, I snapped at her. I said "those California guys need 
to do a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. "After 
giving me back what I had said, she said "give me another chance." Well, 
she didn't give me the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was 
laughing so much it didn't matter.

Regards
Gigi

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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

[Angie Giltinan]

I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the advanced 
menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
Any more help would be greatly appreciated!

On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes and 
> then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
>> Any info about his would be most helpfull!
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
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ical investigation

[Paul Erkens]

Hi listers,

Why is it that I seem to have 5 calendars, while I didn't set up any? If I go 
to ical on the mac, and I hit the calendars button in the toolbar, I have home 
and work on my mac, but I also have them in another section, namely icloud. Are 
these different calendars?

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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Angie! 
Yes just go to itunes prefs command+comma!
And under general scroll to the import disc settings and set it to mp3 under 
encoding button!
then go to the ok button and you'll be good to go! :]
But remember all imports from then on will be mp3!
Colin
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The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!

On 6 Feb 2012, at 18:58, Angie Giltinan wrote:

> I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the advanced 
> menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
> Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes and 
>> then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
>>> Any info about his would be most helpfull!
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> 
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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Angie,
I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if you 
already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you start 
amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have a formats 
tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in yor case mp3. You 
also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the actions tab, you can 
pick actions to be performed on the files, like normalization if you want, 
before being converted. In the other 2 tabs, you can instruct amadeus what to 
do with meta info such as the file tag and its art work, or you can leave that 
out altogether if you wish, on your to be created mp3 files. Then when you 
point to a folder to convert, it can also recursively search that folder for 
all the files it contains, and then do them all in one simple go. You can also 
tell amadeus to convert a folder, and put all new files in the same location as 
their originals, and then deleting the originals. If you know what you are 
doing this can be a breeze. Once you are familiar with the little interface in 
the batch converter in amadeus pro, you will love it.

If you don't have amadeus then I hope others will chime in on this.
Hth,
Paul.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

> I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the advanced 
> menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
> Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes and 
>> then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
>>> Any info about his would be most helpfull!
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> 
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a need for 
fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, doughnuts, and 
coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I use my Apple ID, does 
that other user have to be me or can I make it a test user if I wanted?

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
>> actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be able 
>> to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using Fast User 
>> Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users by selecting 
>> them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status menu, VO-M-M.
>> 
>> Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory running a 
>> second OS.
>> 
>> Later...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
>> something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
>> iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not 
>> be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
>>> and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
>>> creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
>>> out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine 
>>> library with settings all its own.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in 
 as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know 
 how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you 
 are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
> As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
> want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
> headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
> to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
> and such.
> 
> That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
> instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
> work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
> logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
> preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
> users logged in.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
>> work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
>> iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
>> now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, 
>> you'd be golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen 
>> Apple TV, you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation 
>> except, at the moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie 
>> and TV shows.  You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP 
>> that could interfere with this idea as well.
>> 
>> Not helping much, am I?
>> 
>> Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
>> could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
>> simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
>> Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
>> 
>> I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active 
 which means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. 
 So, that idea ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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Re: converting m4a to wav or mp3

[Angie Giltinan]

Wow, that was really helpfull, I was considering purchasing amadeus pro anyway, 
this may be the good enough reason to do so.
Can I find it on the app store?
Thanks!
  
On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Paul Erkens wr  ote:

> Hi Angie,
> I use amadeus pro all the time. I don't know if you ever used it, but if you 
> already bought it it's a breeze. Just hit command shift n after you start 
> amadeus pro, and a new batch converter window will appear. You have a formats 
> tab, where you set what you want your new files to become, in yor case mp3. 
> You also set the mp3 encoding settings in this tab. In the actions tab, you 
> can pick actions to be performed on the files, like normalization if you 
> want, before being converted. In the other 2 tabs, you can instruct amadeus 
> what to do with meta info such as the file tag and its art work, or you can 
> leave that out altogether if you wish, on your to be created mp3 files. Then 
> when you point to a folder to convert, it can also recursively search that 
> folder for all the files it contains, and then do them all in one simple go. 
> You can also tell amadeus to convert a folder, and put all new files in the 
> same location as their originals, and then deleting the originals. If you 
> know what you are doing this can be a breeze. Once you are familiar with the 
> little interface in the batch converter in amadeus pro, you will love it.
> 
> If you don't have amadeus then I hope others will chime in on this.
> Hth,
> Paul.
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
> 
>> I opened the file in itunes, started it playing, then went to the advanced 
>> menu, but could not find an option to convert to mp3 
>> Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> Can't you do this in iTunes? Load the tracks up, select them in iTunes and 
>>> then choose Convert to MP3 in the Advanced menu.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/12 12:38 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 Hi all,
 do any of you know a program to convert m4A audio files to wav or mp3?
 Any info about his would be most helpfull!
 Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Chris Blouch]

I guess that depends on how much content you have tied to that ID. For 
me I would keep it the same.


CB

On 2/6/12 3:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a 
need for fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, 
doughnuts, and coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I 
use my Apple ID, does that other user have to be me or can I make it a 
test user if I wanted?


THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:


Hi Scott,


If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you 
can actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should 
then be able to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned. 
 When using Fast User Switching, you can just go between the various 
logged in users by selecting them under the Users menu which is 
accessed in the Status menu, VO-M-M.


Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory 
running a second OS.


Later...


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell > wrote:



Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am 
missing something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that 
user and launch iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as 
myself because it would not be possible to effectively have two 
instances of iTUnes running.


On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the 
same Mac and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give 
it a try by creating a second account and then switching to that 
user without logging out of the current user. If you launch iTunes 
you'll find a pristine library with settings all its own.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that 
route. I'm done buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously 
log in as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, 
I do not know how I could have us both logged into the same 
machine and I think what you are saying is you have two different 
Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that 
library active. If I could get around that I probably would solve 
my problem. :)


THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer 
if you want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get 
you. The headphone jack is actually a digital optical output 
which you can connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get 
the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.


That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and 
run two instances, but no luck, they share the same preference 
files. What did work was setting up another user on my Mac and 
having that second user logged in running iTunes. That instance 
had it's own library and preferences so I could share two 
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this 
would work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to 
have the iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, 
they're hard to find now and you need sighted assistance to set 
them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also thinking 
about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use 
a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it 
only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You 
might also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could 
interfere with this idea as well.


Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so 
that you could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two 
Libraries running simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't 
particularly care for Windows though, even though I have to use 
it at work sometimes.


I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem 
that I suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this 
Home SHaring thing work you have to have iTunes running and 
that library active which means I cannot use my library. So, 
it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.


THanks,

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MenuTab has no windows

[Traci]

Hello all,

When I accidentally get an app into has no windows mode, how do I restore it?

For the moment, it is MenuTab has no windows.

Thank you,
Traci
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question about spell check

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys. 
I have seen posts on this, but I think I missed something somewhere. I know the 
command semicolon is the command to call up spell checking. What is the command 
to replace the misspelled word with the correct one? I'm usually using TextEdit 
these days, but I also have the problem in e-mail. 

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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Well I answered my own question and thanks a lot gents. I set this up and it 
works exactly as I had hoped. In fact the really great side benefit is the 
library has only those things my wife and kid want which is the movies. Now we 
don't even need the DVD player. :)

On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> You can be logged into one box multiple times as different users, each 
> running a copy of iTunes. Each instance of iTunes has it's own library and 
> preferences. So I was logged into my laptop both as myself and an account I 
> called Test. Each one ran iTunes and had sharing turned on. Then on another 
> Mac I pulled up iTunes and saw both "Chris Blouch's Library" and "Test's 
> Library" as choices. You'll want to turn on Show fast user switching menu in 
> the Preferences Users & Groups Login Options. Then you'll have a new "user 
> menu" to the right of the clock in the menu bar (VO-M twice and the VO-right 
> a couple times). You should be able to pick each user in turn there to switch 
> back and forth. As a new account you'll need to turn voiceover on again along 
> with any other favorite preference changes since it will all be stock.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 12:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
>> something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
>> iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not 
>> be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
>>> and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
>>> creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
>>> out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine 
>>> library with settings all its own.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in 
 as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know 
 how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you 
 are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
> As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
> want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
> headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
> to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
> and such.
> 
> That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
> instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
> work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
> logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
> preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
> users logged in.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
>> work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
>> iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
>> now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, 
>> you'd be golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen 
>> Apple TV, you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation 
>> except, at the moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie 
>> and TV shows.  You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP 
>> that could interfere with this idea as well.
>> 
>> Not helping much, am I?
>> 
>> Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
>> could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
>> simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
>> Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
>> 
>> I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that libr

Re: Bugs in Mail

[Chris Westbrook]

That's weird, I'm using imap with gmail and when I delete a message thread, not 
sure where it goes lol but it is gone from my mailbox at least.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I find with gmail and IMAP, the best way to "Delete" messages for good
> is to Move them to Trash while in a mail client.  Yes, there is a
> delete function on the web site which actually deletes messages (if
> trueth be known, it moves them to trash too).  Anyway, that's what I
> do in mutt, thunderbird, mail app on both mac and iPod.
> 
> On 2/6/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> This may not be a bug in Mail, but the imap implementation such as found
>> with Gmail.
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> Has anyone noticed that when you delete messages they don't leave the mail
>>> box unless you close and reopen the app? So if anyone's had this problem
>>> besides me after I updated? If so does anyone know how to get rid of it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Becky and C the cute black lab
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Re: Home Sharing question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Scott,

The Username of the user account is immaterial to the Apple ID.  If most of 
your media content is tied to your Apple ID, and in order to use Home sharing 
properly, you'll probably need to use the same Apple ID.  This will not use up 
a computer authorization as that is already handled via the MAC Address of the 
machine.  You may, though, need to make copies of the media you wish in the 
second library which will use up HD space, but I think that's the best option.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I guess that depends on how much content you have tied to that ID. For me I 
> would keep it the same.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 3:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a need 
>> for fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, doughnuts, 
>> and coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I use my Apple ID, 
>> does that other user have to be me or can I make it a test user if I wanted?
>> 
>> THanks,
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
 
 If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
 actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be 
 able to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using 
 Fast User Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users 
 by selecting them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status 
 menu, VO-M-M.
 
 Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory running 
 a second OS.
 
 Later...
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>> 
 Chris,
 
 Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am 
 missing something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user 
 and launch iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because 
 it would not be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes 
 running.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
> I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
> and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
> creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
> out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine 
> library with settings all its own.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. 
>> I'm done buying computers for a while. :)
>> So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in 
>> as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not 
>> know how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think 
>> what you are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
>> Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that 
>> library active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my 
>> problem. :)
>> 
>> THanks,
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if 
>>> you want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
>>> headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can 
>>> connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output 
>>> from DVDs and such.
>>> 
>>> That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
>>> instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
>>> work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
>>> logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
>>> preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with 
>>> two users logged in.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
 work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
 iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
 now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, 
 you'd be golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd 
 Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation 
 except, at the moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not 
 movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume restrictions from your 
 ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that 
 you c

cool discovery of keyboard viewer

[Ioana Gandrabur]

HI all,

For those of you wondering what each key on the keyboard does, especially if 
you are using multiple layouts for different languages, I thought I would share 
my nice little mac discovery in case some don't already know it.
The feature called keyboard viewer is accessible with vo and if not always 
clear definitely with exploring.
To enable it:
1. Go to system preferences
2.then language and text
3. select text input source (the 4th tab)
4. In the input source table check the character and keyboard viewer.

Now you can show the keyboard viewer for our current layout by going to the 
text input menu.
You will be presented  with a series of buttons arranged like a keyboard with 
each of them labeled with its unction. IF you want to see any alternate 
functions of each letter press option wile vo is on that letter and you will 
hear what it is.

Hope this makes sense and was useful or interesting for some of you.
I found out about trademark sign degrees sign and so much more.

Take care,

Ioana
Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

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Re: Home Sharing question

[Scott Howell]

Hey Tim,

Yep it works and the way I worked around the issue of the media was to keep it 
on an external drive and do not let iTunes import it. Since this is what I 
wanted to do from the beginning, I got what I intended accomplished. The whole 
idea was to put the movies and other video content on a drive that was 
available to the APple TVs.

Thanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> The Username of the user account is immaterial to the Apple ID.  If most of 
> your media content is tied to your Apple ID, and in order to use Home sharing 
> properly, you'll probably need to use the same Apple ID.  This will not use 
> up a computer authorization as that is already handled via the MAC Address of 
> the machine.  You may, though, need to make copies of the media you wish in 
> the second library which will use up HD space, but I think that's the best 
> option.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2012-02-06, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> I guess that depends on how much content you have tied to that ID. For me I 
>> would keep it the same.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/6/12 3:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a need 
>>> for fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, 
>>> doughnuts, and coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I use 
>>> my Apple ID, does that other user have to be me or can I make it a test 
>>> user if I wanted?
>>> 
>>> THanks,
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Scott,
> 
> If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
> actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be 
> able to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using 
> Fast User Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users 
> by selecting them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status 
> menu, VO-M-M.
> 
> Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory 
> running a second OS.
> 
> Later...
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
 
> Chris,
> 
> Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am 
> missing something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user 
> and launch iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because 
> it would not be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes 
> running.
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same 
>> Mac and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
>> creating a second account and then switching to that user without 
>> logging out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a 
>> pristine library with settings all its own.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. 
>>> I'm done buying computers for a while. :)
>>> So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log 
>>> in as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not 
>>> know how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think 
>>> what you are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
>>> Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that 
>>> library active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my 
>>> problem. :)
>>> 
>>> THanks,
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if 
 you want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can 
 connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 
 output from DVDs and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run 
 two instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What 
 did work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second 
 user logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with 
 two users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
> work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
> iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
> now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after 

Re: ical investigation

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Paul,

The home and work calendars are set up automatically by ICAl. The ICloud 
category would be the backup if you were to sync them.

HtH,
Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi listers,
> 
> Why is it that I seem to have 5 calendars, while I didn't set up any? If I go 
> to ical on the mac, and I hit the calendars button in the toolbar, I have 
> home and work on my mac, but I also have them in another section, namely 
> icloud. Are these different calendars?
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Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Matthew Campbell]

Hi everyone.
I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when running 
Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power 
button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43 
seconds.
I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, it 
was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using Onyx, 
I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space, repaired 
permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or 
calling Apple Care on this issue.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks and have a great evening,
Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.

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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, Mat, truth to tell, I too have noticed this.  You and I appear to have 
taken almost exactly the same measures.  There are others on this list who 
have, unless memory deserts me, also indicated this issue.  They indicated that 
even a fresh installation does not seem to solve this.  My guess is this.  IF 
you report this to Apple, you will most likely get a canned message advising 
you that they cannot tell when new features will be implemented.  OF course, 
you and I  and others here know perfectly well that we're not talking about a 
new feature here.  Should you decide to report this, and receive back an 
answer, let us know?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when 
> running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
> I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power 
> button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43 
> seconds.
> I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, 
> it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
> I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using Onyx, 
> I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space, repaired 
> permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
> Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or 
> calling Apple Care on this issue.
> Let me know what you think.
> Thanks and have a great evening,
> Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.
> 
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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi ray and matt,I to have experienced this issue.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2012-02-06, at 8:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Well, Mat, truth to tell, I too have noticed this.  You and I appear to have 
> taken almost exactly the same measures.  There are others on this list who 
> have, unless memory deserts me, also indicated this issue.  They indicated 
> that even a fresh installation does not seem to solve this.  My guess is 
> this.  IF you report this to Apple, you will most likely get a canned message 
> advising you that they cannot tell when new features will be implemented.  OF 
> course, you and I  and others here know perfectly well that we're not talking 
> about a new feature here.  Should you decide to report this, and receive back 
> an answer, let us know?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when 
>> running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
>> I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power 
>> button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43 
>> seconds.
>> I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, 
>> it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
>> I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using 
>> Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space, 
>> repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
>> Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or 
>> calling Apple Care on this issue.
>> Let me know what you think.
>> Thanks and have a great evening,
>> Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.
>> 
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RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Missy Hoppe]

Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm using a 
2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model
number is, and I'm guessing your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the 
same for my boot time. More annoying for me
than the slow boot time, though, is that under lion, VO startup is hit and miss 
at best. When lion first came out, it always
got stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That got fixed, only to be 
replaced by the fact that if VO starts
talking by itself at all, I'm stuck in a window called speech synthesis server. 
In all the time I've run lion, it's never
landed me on the desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and more often than 
not, I have to press command-tab before VO says
anything at all.
So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've tried 
everything I can think of to solve the problem,
but nothing seems to make a difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external 
drive which I still use to boot into Snow
Leopard when necessary runs faster than Lion, and that's just wrong. So, like 
you, I'm wondering if there's any point in
reporting this to apple, or if it's something that taking my macbook to an 
apple store might fix. I've just learned to live
with it, but it's very strange, especially since Snow Leopard boots so much 
faster and always reliably starts on the desktop.
If you ever find a way to speed up lion's boot time, please share as I'd love 
to get this issue resolved somehow.
Thanks!
Missy

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Hi everyone.
I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when running 
Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power 
button until VO is heard on the log in screen
takes roughly 1 minute and 43 seconds.
I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, it 
was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using Onyx, 
I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked
free disk space, repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or 
calling Apple Care on this issue.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks and have a great evening,
Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.

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RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it, and
are working on a fix, at last response from the support people. Things like
this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow.
Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what you guys
are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down the OS, for
something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if it takes them a bit
longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing the issue.
Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system requirements
state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the bear least you can
get away with and run Lion, but with some slowness. Ram can have a factor in
boot times, as well as hard drive speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so be
aware of that fact as well.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm using a
2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model number is, and I'm guessing
your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the same for my boot time.
More annoying for me than the slow boot time, though, is that under lion, VO
startup is hit and miss at best. When lion first came out, it always got
stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That got fixed, only to be
replaced by the fact that if VO starts talking by itself at all, I'm stuck
in a window called speech synthesis server. In all the time I've run lion,
it's never landed me on the desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and
more often than not, I have to press command-tab before VO says anything at
all.
So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've tried
everything I can think of to solve the problem, but nothing seems to make a
difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external drive which I still use
to boot into Snow Leopard when necessary runs faster than Lion, and that's
just wrong. So, like you, I'm wondering if there's any point in reporting
this to apple, or if it's something that taking my macbook to an apple store
might fix. I've just learned to live with it, but it's very strange,
especially since Snow Leopard boots so much faster and always reliably
starts on the desktop.
If you ever find a way to speed up lion's boot time, please share as I'd
love to get this issue resolved somehow.
Thanks!
Missy

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

Hi everyone.
I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when
running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power
button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43
seconds.
I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac,
it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using
Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space,
repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or
calling Apple Care on this issue.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks and have a great evening,
Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.

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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Walter Harper]

I am having the same issue 

Sent from my iPhone 

On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've reported that issue several times to apple. They're aware of it, and
> are working on a fix, at last response from the support people. Things like
> this take time, however, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow.
> Now keep in mind, I also experienced and still am experiencing what you guys
> are talking about, but it's honestly no reason to shoot down the OS, for
> something that they're obviously trying to fix, even if it takes them a bit
> longer than we'd like to pinpoint what's causing the issue.
> Another thing you have to keep in mind, Lions minimum system requirements
> state 2GB of ram and a 2.0GHZ dual core processor is the bear least you can
> get away with and run Lion, but with some slowness. Ram can have a factor in
> boot times, as well as hard drive speed (5400 as opposed to 7200 RPM), so be
> aware of that fact as well.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.
> 
> Hello. I, too, experience incredibly slow boot times with lion. I'm using a
> 2011 Macbook Pro 724LLA or whatever that model number is, and I'm guessing
> your estimate of 1 minute 43 seconds is about the same for my boot time.
> More annoying for me than the slow boot time, though, is that under lion, VO
> startup is hit and miss at best. When lion first came out, it always got
> stuck in come window called com.doc.apple.extra. That got fixed, only to be
> replaced by the fact that if VO starts talking by itself at all, I'm stuck
> in a window called speech synthesis server. In all the time I've run lion,
> it's never landed me on the desktop the way snowy kitty always does, and
> more often than not, I have to press command-tab before VO says anything at
> all.
> So, to make a long story short, it isn't just you, and like you, I've tried
> everything I can think of to solve the problem, but nothing seems to make a
> difference. It seems that my ancient 80 GB external drive which I still use
> to boot into Snow Leopard when necessary runs faster than Lion, and that's
> just wrong. So, like you, I'm wondering if there's any point in reporting
> this to apple, or if it's something that taking my macbook to an apple store
> might fix. I've just learned to live with it, but it's very strange,
> especially since Snow Leopard boots so much faster and always reliably
> starts on the desktop.
> If you ever find a way to speed up lion's boot time, please share as I'd
> love to get this issue resolved somehow.
> Thanks!
> Missy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.
> 
> Hi everyone.
> I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when
> running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
> I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power
> button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43
> seconds.
> I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac,
> it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
> I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using
> Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space,
> repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
> Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or
> calling Apple Care on this issue.
> Let me know what you think.
> Thanks and have a great evening,
> Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.
> 
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Very unhappy with Pages

[Bejarano, Rafael P.]

Hello, all,

Has any of you found the current version of pages to be less accessible than 
prior versions?  There are buttons that are not read by Voiceover, and the 
Header and Footer fields are not spoken either.  It may or may not be relevant, 
but I am running Snow Leopard on an iMac.

Rafael

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I'm back!

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Cara and everyone. I'm happy to announce that I'm back on the list. 
Although for some reason I'm getting emails from January 24 and it's February 
6? Weird. Anyway, since I didn't get an answer because of this whole thinking 
that I was banned and having to re-subscribe, I'll ask my question again. I 
have the Imap Weather Radio app on my iPhone 4 and for some reason I'm not 
getting alerts for other cities that I've programmed into it. On my iPod, I was 
able to get alerts for those cities so why can't I with the iPhone? Once again, 
it's great to be back on the list.

Shawn

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utorrent and accessibility?

[Eric Oyen]

I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent makes 
getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I cannot find 
the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done or not. this is so 
frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client that would be worth anything 
is reorient (A command line client) but I am missing some libs to make the 
packages here.

anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients goes? 
both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the toolbars and frame 
elements.

-eric

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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

[Wes Smith]

Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent makes 
> getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I cannot 
> find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done or not. this 
> is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client that would be worth 
> anything is reorient (A command line client) but I am missing some libs to 
> make the packages here.
>
> anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients goes? 
> both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the toolbars and 
> frame elements.
>
> -eric
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Re: utorrent and accessibility?

[Eric Oyen]

ok, how did you manage this? I am running OS X 10.6.4 and all I get is the 
pulldown menus, toolbar items, empty scorell area and some frame elements.

also, I attempted to register on the uTorrent forums and was faced with a 
shockwave flash captcha that won't play sound here. 

so? what settings must I change for accessibility to be usable?

-eric

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

> Utorrent works fine for me, I can see everything
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
>> I used to use torrent as my default torrent transfer agent (torrent makes 
>> getting linux distress so much easier). the only problem is that I cannot 
>> find the details pane. I also can't tell when a torrent is done or not. this 
>> is so frustrating. it seems that the only torrent client that would be worth 
>> anything is reorient (A command line client) but I am missing some libs to 
>> make the packages here.
>> 
>> anyone have any suggestions as far as other accessible torrent clients goes? 
>> both torrent and fuze don't display anything other than the toolbars and 
>> frame elements.
>> 
>> -eric
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Creating Presentations USING KeyNote

[ezzie bueno]

Hello:

Can you lovely people please help me with the basics of creating 
PowerPoint presentations using KeyNote? I've never created a 
presentation before.


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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Teresa Cochran]

Did you also change the setting in System Preferences general pane to remember 
all open windows in an application? Having said this, I have also noticed 
slower boot times with Lion.

Teresa

I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when 
> running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
> I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power 
> button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43 
> seconds.
> I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, 
> it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
> I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using Onyx, 
> I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space, repaired 
> permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
> Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or 
> calling Apple Care on this issue.
> Let me know what you think.
> Thanks and have a great evening,
> Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.
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Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

Upon a cursory look at vO with Google chrome, I notice no major accessibility 
booboos. Does anyone else use VO successfully with this app? I'm finding that I 
don't really care to use a separate voicing app for one particular web browser, 
because I have to turn off VO, and turn it back on when switching windows, and 
also, the two text-to-speech chrome extensions, Chromevox and MetalMouth, do 
not work in parts of the browser other than the page content.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Slow boot time with Lion. Opinions wanted.

[Ray Foret Jr]

I believe that I have the setting to remember all windows and applcations 
unchecked.


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On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Did you also change the setting in System Preferences general pane to 
> remember all open windows in an application? Having said this, I have also 
> noticed slower boot times with Lion.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm just wondering if any of you are experiencing slow boot times when 
>> running Mac OS 10 Lion on you're Macs?
>> I did a time estimation just now and found that from the press of the power 
>> button until VO is heard on the log in screen takes roughly 1 minute and 43 
>> seconds.
>> I'm running a late 2008 unibody MacBook and even though it is an older Mac, 
>> it was never that slow while running SnowLeopard.
>> I've tried everything I can think of. I've Ran a battery of tasks using 
>> Onyx, I've cleaned out my login items, I've checked free disk space, 
>> repaired permissions, verified the start up disk, etc, etc.
>> Just wondering if this might be worth sending in a bug report to Apple or 
>> calling Apple Care on this issue.
>> Let me know what you think.
>> Thanks and have a great evening,
>> Matthew Campbell and the slowpoke Mac.
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