Re: Lion clean install

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

If your buying a new mac, Lion will be installed on it anyway.

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On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:

> Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and they 
> want to update from snow lepard would i encourage them to do a clean install? 
> because i plan to get in to it in the next few weeks? I like the fact, i can 
> use, a macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good clear voice, when 
> i was at my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch macbook pro and i was 
> experimenting a bit.
> cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
> - Original Message - From: "Shen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
> Subject: Lion clean install
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of Lion.
>> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it was 
>> so easy the whole process took less than an hour. VoiceOver spoke to me the 
>> entire time.
>> So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
>> installation of Lion does make it run a bit more smoothly. I don't think 
>> it's faster, but just more smooth.
>> There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
>> First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time zone. 
>> This was normal. But what was not normal was the fact that it has my city 
>> preselected. I just have to click "continue".
>> Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
>> keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and working. How's this 
>> possible?
>> I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean installation. 
>> It's interesting that of all the settings I had, it remembered the time zone 
>> and my Bluetooth keyboard. Why not my VoiceOver settings, or Finder settings?
>> The third thing is probably more of a problem with Lion. When making certain 
>> changes in System Preferences, you have to click the Lock button to allow 
>> you to make changes. When you do this, another dialog window pops up asking 
>> you to authenticate the administrator account. For some reason, when this 
>> window pops up, VoiceOver will say that the authentication windows is busy 
>> and it will stay busy for at least 30 seconds, maybe an entire minute. I 
>> find this very bizarre. Finally, when it is ready, I can type my user name 
>> and password.
>> Anyways, over all, it has been a pleasant surprise so far.
>> 
>> Except for the last 5 minutes. As I was typing this email, Mail quit 
>> unexpectedly. I've never seen this happen before. But then, when I reopened 
>> Mail, what a surprise, it saved a draft of my email so I didn't lose 
>> anything.
>> For those who are having lots of issues with Lion, especially when the user 
>> experience is not as good or better than Snow Leopard, I recommend 
>> considering a clean install.
>> It is so easy to install. For iTunes, I just copied the music folder to an 
>> external drive. After installing Lion, I copied it back and my entire 
>> library is there. Can't get any easier than that.
>> 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not 
a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still 
blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.

hth

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On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Johnny,
> 
> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
> 
> Mark
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Johnny
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more 
>>> than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
>>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>>> curtain.
>>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will
>>> prove to be useful to you.
>>> 
>>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive
>>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting
>>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who
>>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when
>>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I
>>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before
>>> the upgrade.
>>> 
>>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>>> heat went away.
>>> 
>>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain
>>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>>> 
>>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Weird Sound Loss When I Plug or Unplug Headphones

[Ricardo Walker]

It might be possible you have dust or lint in the jack?

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On Aug 11, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

> Hey don't know if anybody else is experiencing this but sometimes when I plug 
> or unplug a pair of headphones, I lose sound totally. My sounds aren't muted, 
> everything works fine until I either plug in headphones to the jack or unplug 
> them from the jack. And now how many times I press the mute button to mute 
> and unmute,I don't get them back until I restart. I haven't had this problem 
> in SL, this started to act weird in Lion. Has anyone else experienced this?
> 
> Shawn
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Chris Moore]

If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone 
too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
> conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still 
> blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Johnny,
>> 
>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Johnny
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> 
 Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more 
 than once that my keyboard's backlight is
 completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
 definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
 Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
 curtain.
 It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
 Missy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
 generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
 battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
 will
 prove to be useful to you.
 
 F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive
 and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
 sitting
 on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
 connected, I also have the power cable connected.
 
 Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who
 installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
 The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
 installed.
 
 
 Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when
 I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, 
 I
 discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before
 the upgrade.
 
 After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
 heat went away.
 
 So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain
 confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
 upgrading/installing Lion.
 
 F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Lion clean install

[gerry cook]

thanks for that.
cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: Lion clean install



Hi,

If your buying a new mac, Lion will be installed on it anyway.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:

Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and 
they want to update from snow lepard would i encourage them to do a clean 
install? because i plan to get in to it in the next few weeks? I like the 
fact, i can use, a macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good 
clear voice, when i was at my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch 
macbook pro and i was experimenting a bit.

cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
- Original Message - From: "Shen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: Lion clean install



Hello,
So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of 
Lion.
I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it 
was so easy the whole process took less than an hour. VoiceOver spoke to 
me the entire time.
So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
installation of Lion does make it run a bit more smoothly. I don't think 
it's faster, but just more smooth.

There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time 
zone. This was normal. But what was not normal was the fact that it has 
my city preselected. I just have to click "continue".
Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and working. How's this 
possible?
I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean 
installation. It's interesting that of all the settings I had, it 
remembered the time zone and my Bluetooth keyboard. Why not my VoiceOver 
settings, or Finder settings?
The third thing is probably more of a problem with Lion. When making 
certain changes in System Preferences, you have to click the Lock button 
to allow you to make changes. When you do this, another dialog window 
pops up asking you to authenticate the administrator account. For some 
reason, when this window pops up, VoiceOver will say that the 
authentication windows is busy and it will stay busy for at least 30 
seconds, maybe an entire minute. I find this very bizarre. Finally, when 
it is ready, I can type my user name and password.

Anyways, over all, it has been a pleasant surprise so far.

Except for the last 5 minutes. As I was typing this email, Mail quit 
unexpectedly. I've never seen this happen before. But then, when I 
reopened Mail, what a surprise, it saved a draft of my email so I didn't 
lose anything.
For those who are having lots of issues with Lion, especially when the 
user experience is not as good or better than Snow Leopard, I recommend 
considering a clean install.
It is so easy to install. For iTunes, I just copied the music folder to 
an external drive. After installing Lion, I copied it back and my entire 
library is there. Can't get any easier than that.



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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Ricardo Walker]

Right,

Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You would 
have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting your macbook 
will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive way to restart 
an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.

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On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
>> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
>> conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is 
>> still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Johnny,
>>> 
>>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
>>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 
 How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Johnny
 
 On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
 
> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more 
> than once that my keyboard's backlight is
> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
> curtain.
> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
> Missy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
> will
> prove to be useful to you.
> 
> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive
> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
> sitting
> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
> 
> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
> who
> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
> installed.
> 
> 
> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
> when
> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
> today, I
> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before
> the upgrade.
> 
> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
> heat went away.
> 
> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain
> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
> upgrading/installing Lion.
> 
> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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trouble signing up for pandora

[chad baker]

hi i'm having trouble signing up for pandora
i went to pandora.com no luck
i have no iPhone or nothing
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Re: Accessible Electronic OCR?

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions, guys! I'd actually been mulling over 
the purchase of Abbyy Fine Reader and finally bit the bullet today. It made a 
beautiful OCR of a book-length pdf file. Yay. Worth the wait and the price. :)

Thanks,
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Re: Weird Sound Loss When I Plug or Unplug Headphones

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Yes, I have. I have to keep starting Voice Over. Had same problem using SL.

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Aug 2011, at 04:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Hey don't know if anybody else is experiencing this but sometimes when I plug 
> or unplug a pair of headphones, I lose sound totally. My sounds aren't muted, 
> everything works fine until I either plug in headphones to the jack or unplug 
> them from the jack. And now how many times I press the mute button to mute 
> and unmute,I don't get them back until I restart. I haven't had this problem 
> in SL, this started to act weird in Lion. Has anyone else experienced this?
> 
> Shawn
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Chris Moore]

Ricardo, you are too damn sensible! I think logical is your middle name young 
man :) 

PS I still want ya bonus beats from those podcasts 
On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:17, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Right,
> 
> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting your 
> macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive way to 
> restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
>>> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
>>> conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is 
>>> still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Johnny,
 
 You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
 triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
 
 Mark
 On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
 
> Hi!
> 
> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Johnny
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>> curtain.
>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
>> will
>> prove to be useful to you.
>> 
>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive
>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
>> sitting
>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>> 
>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
>> who
>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
>> installed.
>> 
>> 
>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
>> when
>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
>> today, I
>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before
>> the upgrade.
>> 
>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>> heat went away.
>> 
>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain
>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>> 
>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Ricardo Walker]

Ok,

And you said from the last 3 podcasts including Apple to the core 3 right?  I 
will start digging around my hard drive for them now.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Ricardo, you are too damn sensible! I think logical is your middle name young 
> man :) 
> 
> PS I still want ya bonus beats from those podcasts 
> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:17, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Right,
>> 
>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive 
>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
>>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
>>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
 not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
 conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is 
 still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
> Hello Johnny,
> 
> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
> 
> Mark
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Johnny
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
>>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
>>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>>> curtain.
>>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
>>> will
>>> prove to be useful to you.
>>> 
>>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
>>> drive
>>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
>>> sitting
>>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
>>> who
>>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
>>> installed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
>>> when
>>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
>>> today, I
>>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
>>> before
>>> the upgrade.
>>> 
>>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>>> heat went away.
>>> 
>>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
>>> drain
>>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>>> 
>>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Lion clean install

[Scott Howell]

If you have a new machine, upgrading from Snow Leopard to Lion should not be 
any problem. The only reason really to do a "clean install" is if you have a 
lot of crud from either prior upgrades or you have an SL installation that has 
not been running perfectly. Other reasons may exist, but typically upgrading is 
not necessary.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:

> Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and they 
> want to update from snow lepard would i encourage them to do a clean install? 
> because i plan to get in to it in the next few weeks? I like the fact, i can 
> use, a macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good clear voice, when 
> i was at my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch macbook pro and i was 
> experimenting a bit.
> cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
> - Original Message - From: "Shen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
> Subject: Lion clean install
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of Lion.
>> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it was 
>> so easy the whole process took less than an hour. VoiceOver spoke to me the 
>> entire time.
>> So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
>> installation of Lion does make it run a bit more smoothly. I don't think 
>> it's faster, but just more smooth.
>> There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
>> First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time zone. 
>> This was normal. But what was not normal was the fact that it has my city 
>> preselected. I just have to click "continue".
>> Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
>> keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and working. How's this 
>> possible?
>> I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean installation. 
>> It's interesting that of all the settings I had, it remembered the time zone 
>> and my Bluetooth keyboard. Why not my VoiceOver settings, or Finder settings?
>> The third thing is probably more of a problem with Lion. When making certain 
>> changes in System Preferences, you have to click the Lock button to allow 
>> you to make changes. When you do this, another dialog window pops up asking 
>> you to authenticate the administrator account. For some reason, when this 
>> window pops up, VoiceOver will say that the authentication windows is busy 
>> and it will stay busy for at least 30 seconds, maybe an entire minute. I 
>> find this very bizarre. Finally, when it is ready, I can type my user name 
>> and password.
>> Anyways, over all, it has been a pleasant surprise so far.
>> 
>> Except for the last 5 minutes. As I was typing this email, Mail quit 
>> unexpectedly. I've never seen this happen before. But then, when I reopened 
>> Mail, what a surprise, it saved a draft of my email so I didn't lose 
>> anything.
>> For those who are having lots of issues with Lion, especially when the user 
>> experience is not as good or better than Snow Leopard, I recommend 
>> considering a clean install.
>> It is so easy to install. For iTunes, I just copied the music folder to an 
>> external drive. After installing Lion, I copied it back and my entire 
>> library is there. Can't get any easier than that.
>> 
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RE: Lion clean install

[Missy Hoppe]

That's pretty much what I was told by Apple, too. My macbook is only about 3 
months old now, and SL was running on it
beautifully. My lion upgrade went smoothly enough, but there were just too many 
weird things going on, so I decided to go
back to SL until some lion bugs get worked out. There's still a part of me that 
wonders if a clean install of Lion would have
worked better, though, so I'm tempted to try a clean install from the dvd I 
made just to see if it solves my midi issue and
some other weirdness. I figure if it doesn't make any difference, I'm not out 
anything but a lot of time; I can just go back
to my CCC backup of sl, and everything would immediately go back to normal. I 
just have to decide if I'm prepared to spend a
couple hours trying something that may or may not solve any of my lion 
weirdness. I almost wish I could go to a mac store
with a flash drive and play a midi on a machine that is using a clean install 
of lion; then I'd know if attempting a clean
install would be worth the time and effort.
Missy

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lion clean install

If you have a new machine, upgrading from Snow Leopard to Lion should not be 
any problem. The only reason really to do a
"clean install" is if you have a lot of crud from either prior upgrades or you 
have an SL installation that has not been
running perfectly. Other reasons may exist, but typically upgrading is not 
necessary.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:

> Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and they 
> want to update from snow lepard would i
encourage them to do a clean install? because i plan to get in to it in the 
next few weeks? I like the fact, i can use, a
macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good clear voice, when i was at 
my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch
macbook pro and i was experimenting a bit.
> cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
> - Original Message - From: "Shen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
> Subject: Lion clean install
>
>
>> Hello,
>> So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of Lion.
>> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it was 
>> so easy the whole process took less than an
hour. VoiceOver spoke to me the entire time.
>> So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
>> installation of Lion does make it run a bit more
smoothly. I don't think it's faster, but just more smooth.
>> There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
>> First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time zone. 
>> This was normal. But what was not normal was the
fact that it has my city preselected. I just have to click "continue".
>> Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
>> keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and
working. How's this possible?
>> I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean installation. 
>> It's interesting that of all the settings I
had, it remembered the time zone and my Bluetooth keyboard. Why not my 
VoiceOver settings, or Finder settings?
>> The third thing is probably more of a problem with Lion. When making certain 
>> changes in System Preferences, you have to
click the Lock button to allow you to make changes. When you do this, another 
dialog window pops up asking you to
authenticate the administrator account. For some reason, when this window pops 
up, VoiceOver will say that the authentication
windows is busy and it will stay busy for at least 30 seconds, maybe an entire 
minute. I find this very bizarre. Finally,
when it is ready, I can type my user name and password.
>> Anyways, over all, it has been a pleasant surprise so far.
>>
>> Except for the last 5 minutes. As I was typing this email, Mail quit 
>> unexpectedly. I've never seen this happen before. But
then, when I reopened Mail, what a surprise, it saved a draft of my email so I 
didn't lose anything.
>> For those who are having lots of issues with Lion, especially when the user 
>> experience is not as good or better than Snow
Leopard, I recommend considering a clean install.
>> It is so easy to install. For iTunes, I just copied the music folder to an 
>> external drive. After installing Lion, I copied
it back and my entire library is there. Can't get any easier than that.
>>
>>
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Re: Lion clean install

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I just checked and, midi files are still played at a very low volume.  BTW, 
have you told Apple about this?  I'm assuming not to many people are listening 
to midi files with quicklook so this issue might have flown under their radar.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> That's pretty much what I was told by Apple, too. My macbook is only about 3 
> months old now, and SL was running on it
> beautifully. My lion upgrade went smoothly enough, but there were just too 
> many weird things going on, so I decided to go
> back to SL until some lion bugs get worked out. There's still a part of me 
> that wonders if a clean install of Lion would have
> worked better, though, so I'm tempted to try a clean install from the dvd I 
> made just to see if it solves my midi issue and
> some other weirdness. I figure if it doesn't make any difference, I'm not out 
> anything but a lot of time; I can just go back
> to my CCC backup of sl, and everything would immediately go back to normal. I 
> just have to decide if I'm prepared to spend a
> couple hours trying something that may or may not solve any of my lion 
> weirdness. I almost wish I could go to a mac store
> with a flash drive and play a midi on a machine that is using a clean install 
> of lion; then I'd know if attempting a clean
> install would be worth the time and effort.
> Missy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:14 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lion clean install
> 
> If you have a new machine, upgrading from Snow Leopard to Lion should not be 
> any problem. The only reason really to do a
> "clean install" is if you have a lot of crud from either prior upgrades or 
> you have an SL installation that has not been
> running perfectly. Other reasons may exist, but typically upgrading is not 
> necessary.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:
> 
>> Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and they 
>> want to update from snow lepard would i
> encourage them to do a clean install? because i plan to get in to it in the 
> next few weeks? I like the fact, i can use, a
> macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good clear voice, when i was 
> at my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch
> macbook pro and i was experimenting a bit.
>> cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
>> - Original Message - From: "Shen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Lion clean install
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of Lion.
>>> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it was 
>>> so easy the whole process took less than an
> hour. VoiceOver spoke to me the entire time.
>>> So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
>>> installation of Lion does make it run a bit more
> smoothly. I don't think it's faster, but just more smooth.
>>> There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
>>> First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time zone. 
>>> This was normal. But what was not normal was the
> fact that it has my city preselected. I just have to click "continue".
>>> Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and
> working. How's this possible?
>>> I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean installation. 
>>> It's interesting that of all the settings I
> had, it remembered the time zone and my Bluetooth keyboard. Why not my 
> VoiceOver settings, or Finder settings?
>>> The third thing is probably more of a problem with Lion. When making 
>>> certain changes in System Preferences, you have to
> click the Lock button to allow you to make changes. When you do this, another 
> dialog window pops up asking you to
> authenticate the administrator account. For some reason, when this window 
> pops up, VoiceOver will say that the authentication
> windows is busy and it will stay busy for at least 30 seconds, maybe an 
> entire minute. I find this very bizarre. Finally,
> when it is ready, I can type my user name and password.
>>> Anyways, over all, it has been a pleasant surprise so far.
>>> 
>>> Except for the last 5 minutes. As I was typing this email, Mail quit 
>>> unexpectedly. I've never seen this happen before. But
> then, when I reopened Mail, what a surprise, it saved a draft of my email so 
> I didn't lose anything.
>>> For those who are having lots of issues with Lion, especially when the user 
>>> experience is not as good or better than Snow
> Leopard, I recommend considering a clean install.
>>> It is so easy to install. For iTunes, I just copied the music folder to an 
>>> external drive. After installing 

Re: Lion clean install

[Scott Howell]

I have tried this and I would be surprised if you notice any real difference. I 
would say that if your going to do this, you might as well try on an external 
disk, so your not wasting a lot of time.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> That's pretty much what I was told by Apple, too. My macbook is only about 3 
> months old now, and SL was running on it
> beautifully. My lion upgrade went smoothly enough, but there were just too 
> many weird things going on, so I decided to go
> back to SL until some lion bugs get worked out. There's still a part of me 
> that wonders if a clean install of Lion would have
> worked better, though, so I'm tempted to try a clean install from the dvd I 
> made just to see if it solves my midi issue and
> some other weirdness. I figure if it doesn't make any difference, I'm not out 
> anything but a lot of time; I can just go back
> to my CCC backup of sl, and everything would immediately go back to normal. I 
> just have to decide if I'm prepared to spend a
> couple hours trying something that may or may not solve any of my lion 
> weirdness. I almost wish I could go to a mac store
> with a flash drive and play a midi on a machine that is using a clean install 
> of lion; then I'd know if attempting a clean
> install would be worth the time and effort.
> Missy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:14 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lion clean install
> 
> If you have a new machine, upgrading from Snow Leopard to Lion should not be 
> any problem. The only reason really to do a
> "clean install" is if you have a lot of crud from either prior upgrades or 
> you have an SL installation that has not been
> running perfectly. Other reasons may exist, but typically upgrading is not 
> necessary.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:
> 
>> Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and they 
>> want to update from snow lepard would i
> encourage them to do a clean install? because i plan to get in to it in the 
> next few weeks? I like the fact, i can use, a
> macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good clear voice, when i was 
> at my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch
> macbook pro and i was experimenting a bit.
>> cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
>> - Original Message - From: "Shen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Lion clean install
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of Lion.
>>> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it was 
>>> so easy the whole process took less than an
> hour. VoiceOver spoke to me the entire time.
>>> So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
>>> installation of Lion does make it run a bit more
> smoothly. I don't think it's faster, but just more smooth.
>>> There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
>>> First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time zone. 
>>> This was normal. But what was not normal was the
> fact that it has my city preselected. I just have to click "continue".
>>> Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and
> working. How's this possible?
>>> I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean installation. 
>>> It's interesting that of all the settings I
> had, it remembered the time zone and my Bluetooth keyboard. Why not my 
> VoiceOver settings, or Finder settings?
>>> The third thing is probably more of a problem with Lion. When making 
>>> certain changes in System Preferences, you have to
> click the Lock button to allow you to make changes. When you do this, another 
> dialog window pops up asking you to
> authenticate the administrator account. For some reason, when this window 
> pops up, VoiceOver will say that the authentication
> windows is busy and it will stay busy for at least 30 seconds, maybe an 
> entire minute. I find this very bizarre. Finally,
> when it is ready, I can type my user name and password.
>>> Anyways, over all, it has been a pleasant surprise so far.
>>> 
>>> Except for the last 5 minutes. As I was typing this email, Mail quit 
>>> unexpectedly. I've never seen this happen before. But
> then, when I reopened Mail, what a surprise, it saved a draft of my email so 
> I didn't lose anything.
>>> For those who are having lots of issues with Lion, especially when the user 
>>> experience is not as good or better than Snow
> Leopard, I recommend considering a clean install.
>>> It is so easy to install. For iTunes, I just copied the music folder to an 
>>> external drive. After installing Lion, I copied
> it back and my entire library is there. Can't get any easier than that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> You received thi

RE: Lion clean install

[Missy Hoppe]

Hi! Thank you very much for checking on that; it saved me a few hours. (smile) 
I contacted apple about the midi playback
problem, and have a case number, but so far, they're stumped, and nobody has 
any answers. I know that listening to midis
isn't a huge priorty, but it's something I really enjoy, so I'm really 
reluctant to give Lion another chance until I can get
them working properly.
Apart from Garage band, which for me at least is way to complex for simple 
listening, are you aware of another alternative I
could try for midi playback? I tried vlc media player under SL, but it didn't 
seem to have native midi support and I couldn't
quite figure out the instructions for installing a soundfont, although I'd be 
perfectly happy to do that if it would actually
work.
In the mean time, I'll just stick with SL for now, and periodically  check for 
lion updates using my external drive that
boots into lion. It's an adequate sollution for now.
Thanks again, and I hope that you're having a wonderful day!
Missy


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lion clean install

Hi,

I just checked and, midi files are still played at a very low volume.  BTW, 
have you told Apple about this?  I'm assuming not
to many people are listening to midi files with quicklook so this issue might 
have flown under their radar.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> That's pretty much what I was told by Apple, too. My macbook is only about 3 
> months old now, and SL was running on it
> beautifully. My lion upgrade went smoothly enough, but there were just too 
> many weird things going on, so I decided to go
> back to SL until some lion bugs get worked out. There's still a part of me 
> that wonders if a clean install of Lion would
have
> worked better, though, so I'm tempted to try a clean install from the dvd I 
> made just to see if it solves my midi issue and
> some other weirdness. I figure if it doesn't make any difference, I'm not out 
> anything but a lot of time; I can just go
back
> to my CCC backup of sl, and everything would immediately go back to normal. I 
> just have to decide if I'm prepared to spend
a
> couple hours trying something that may or may not solve any of my lion 
> weirdness. I almost wish I could go to a mac store
> with a flash drive and play a midi on a machine that is using a clean install 
> of lion; then I'd know if attempting a clean
> install would be worth the time and effort.
> Missy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:14 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lion clean install
>
> If you have a new machine, upgrading from Snow Leopard to Lion should not be 
> any problem. The only reason really to do a
> "clean install" is if you have a lot of crud from either prior upgrades or 
> you have an SL installation that has not been
> running perfectly. Other reasons may exist, but typically upgrading is not 
> necessary.
>
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, gerry cook wrote:
>
>> Hi shen say if you purchase a new macbook pro from an apple store and they 
>> want to update from snow lepard would i
> encourage them to do a clean install? because i plan to get in to it in the 
> next few weeks? I like the fact, i can use, a
> macc straight out of the box with a reasonably good clear voice, when i was 
> at my brothers last sunday, he had a 17 inch
> macbook pro and i was experimenting a bit.
>> cheers gerry skype gerry.cook1
>> - Original Message - From: "Shen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Lion clean install
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> So I decided to take the plunge today and do a clean installation of Lion.
>>> I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to install Lion. In fact, it was 
>>> so easy the whole process took less than an
> hour. VoiceOver spoke to me the entire time.
>>> So far, I've been using it for about 2 hours. I do feel that a clean 
>>> installation of Lion does make it run a bit more
> smoothly. I don't think it's faster, but just more smooth.
>>> There are 3 small anomalies that I thought were a bit odd.
>>> First, during the installation process, it asked me to set the time zone. 
>>> This was normal. But what was not normal was
the
> fact that it has my city preselected. I just have to click "continue".
>>> Second, after installation, I just assumed I need to setup my Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard to work. No, it is already connected and
> working. How's this possible?
>>> I'm quite certain I had erased the hard drive and did a clean installation. 
>>> It's interesting that of all the settings I
> had, it remembered the ti

Re: Weird Sound Loss When I Plug or Unplug Headphones

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I just had this happen yesterday and I'm still running Snow Leopard.  A reboot 
fixed it.  I was playing Audio Quake at the time and VoiceOver was *NOT* on.  
Guess it'll still be a potential in Lion.


 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Excellent!  This will definitely be something I'll be trying.  Thank you for 
the tip.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: M. Taylor 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:37 AM
  Subject: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's 
Calendar Application


  The following was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG:

   

  How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar 
Application

   

  Hello Everyone,  

   

  One of my favorite features in Microsoft Outlook is the ability to view only 
upcoming (active) appointments in the calendar.  

   

  Apparently, Apple does not think I need this feature in the latest version of 
iCal.  (grimace) 

   

  While there are certainly some very fine third-party applications that will 
allow me to see only upcoming appointments, I am of the opinion that less is 
better; therefore, I resist installing such applications unless absolutely 
necessary.  Besides, there is no guaranty that said third-party applications, 
for which I may have to pay a premium, will be VoiceOver (Apple's software 
screen reading solution for the blind and low vision) accessible.

   

  Enter the Mac OS X Lion Dashboard of which I am growing quite fond, and all 
its marvelous, and for the most part free, widgets.

   

  It is with such a widget that we can view only upcoming or active 
appointments. 

   

  Oh, keep in mind that iCal refers to appointments as events.  

   

  Let's get started.

   

  1.

  Download and install a free Mac OS Dashboard widget called iCal Events.  Its 
description is as follows:  

  iCal Events... Face the day! Always know what's next on your schedule using 
iCal Events. iCal Events displays upcoming events from multiple iCal calendars 
in a beautiful, resizable widget for Dashboard. You can see up to two weeks of 
upcoming events in the same widget without needing to open iCal. 

   

  2.

  After installing the widget, I suggest that you close the web browser used to 
download the widget.

   

  3.

  Now go to the Dashboard and see the widget in action.  I suggest using the 
key combination [Option+LeftArrow] to quickly jump to the Dashboard.  Please 
note that you can change the number of days shown in the widget by clicking on 
the Info button.

   

  Enjoy,

   

  Mark


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Re: trouble signing up for pandora

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hey,

I don't think the web site's very speech friendly.  Not even the sign up 
process, but if you wanna call me on Skype later today,


twinklesfriend2007

or get with me on MSN Messenger only:
ch...@blindperspectives.net

Note, don't use the above address for E-mail... only use it for MSN.

Or AIM:
frisky81066

Or write me off list at:
cgilla...@carolina.rr.com

With a number to reach you at, I have an IPhone, IPad, and IPod Touch.  they 
all have Pandora installed.  I'd be more than happy to help you set up your 
account with a temporary password, which you then could later easily once 
signed up go back and change to something of your liking.


Let me know if I can be of any help.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "chad baker" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 3:18 AM
Subject: trouble signing up for pandora



hi i'm having trouble signing up for pandora
i went to pandora.com no luck
i have no iPhone or nothing
thanks

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Re: Weird Sound Loss When I Plug or Unplug Headphones

[Kristyn Leigh]

I have that problem with my Macbook Air running Lion.  Turning VO off and on 
again brought it back. I still had system sounds and braille, but no voice.

Kristyn
On Aug 11, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

> Hey don't know if anybody else is experiencing this but sometimes when I plug 
> or unplug a pair of headphones, I lose sound totally. My sounds aren't muted, 
> everything works fine until I either plug in headphones to the jack or unplug 
> them from the jack. And now how many times I press the mute button to mute 
> and unmute,I don't get them back until I restart. I haven't had this problem 
> in SL, this started to act weird in Lion. Has anyone else experienced this?
> 
> Shawn
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Burney to the rescue?

[erik burggraaf]

Hi is anybody still following this?  I'm wondering if theres been any 
improvement in accessibility?  It would be nice to play eamon again without 
having to run it in a dosbox on my windows 7 virtual machine on my mac.  Three 
OS stacked ontop of eachother just to play a game seems a bit much.

Thanks,
Erik Burggraaf
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it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Kristyn Leigh]

That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen brightness 
to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Right,
> 
> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting your 
> macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive way to 
> restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
>>> not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
>>> conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is 
>>> still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Johnny,
 
 You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
 triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
 
 Mark
 On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
 
> Hi!
> 
> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Johnny
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>> curtain.
>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
>> will
>> prove to be useful to you.
>> 
>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive
>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
>> sitting
>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>> 
>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
>> who
>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
>> installed.
>> 
>> 
>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
>> when
>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
>> today, I
>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before
>> the upgrade.
>> 
>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>> heat went away.
>> 
>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain
>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>> 
>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Chris Moore]

Ricardo did  not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will 
turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too.
On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Right,
>> 
>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive 
>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
>>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
>>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
 not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
 conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is 
 still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
> Hello Johnny,
> 
> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
> 
> Mark
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Johnny
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
>>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
>>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>>> curtain.
>>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
>>> will
>>> prove to be useful to you.
>>> 
>>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
>>> drive
>>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
>>> sitting
>>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
>>> who
>>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
>>> installed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
>>> when
>>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
>>> today, I
>>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
>>> before
>>> the upgrade.
>>> 
>>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>>> heat went away.
>>> 
>>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
>>> drain
>>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>>> 
>>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Chris Moore]

Or should I say, that is what he implied, he's a smart cookie :)
On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:24, Chris Moore wrote:

> Ricardo did  not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will 
> turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too.
> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
> 
>> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
>> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Right,
>>> 
>>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
>>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
>>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive 
>>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
 iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
 On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain 
> is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to 
> battery conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your 
> display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  
> lol.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Johnny,
>> 
>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Johnny
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> 
 Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
 more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
 completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 
 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
 Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the 
 screen curtain.
 It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
 Missy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in 
 heat
 generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
 battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I 
 hope will
 prove to be useful to you.
 
 F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
 drive
 and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
 sitting
 on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
 connected, I also have the power cable connected.
 
 Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a 
 friend who
 installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same 
 being:
 The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
 installed.
 
 
 Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
 when
 I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
 today, I
 discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
 before
 the upgrade.
 
 After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase 
 in
 heat went away.
 
 So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
 drain
 confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
 upgrading/installing Lion.
 
 F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Kristyn Leigh]

The message I replied to does not refer to turning off screen curtain. He wrote 
"On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. ." 

  
On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Ricardo did  not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will 
> turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too.
> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
> 
>> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
>> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Right,
>>> 
>>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
>>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
>>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive 
>>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
 iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
 On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain 
> is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to 
> battery conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your 
> display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  
> lol.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Johnny,
>> 
>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Johnny
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> 
 Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
 more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
 completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 
 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
 Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the 
 screen curtain.
 It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
 Missy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in 
 heat
 generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
 battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I 
 hope will
 prove to be useful to you.
 
 F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
 drive
 and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
 sitting
 on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
 connected, I also have the power cable connected.
 
 Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a 
 friend who
 installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same 
 being:
 The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
 installed.
 
 
 Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
 when
 I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
 today, I
 discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
 before
 the upgrade.
 
 After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase 
 in
 heat went away.
 
 So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
 drain
 confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
 upgrading/installing Lion.
 
 F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Ricardo Walker]

Really?

Oh.  It certainly doesn't on the Macbook pro mid 2010.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Right,
>> 
>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive 
>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
>>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
>>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
 not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery 
 conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is 
 still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
> Hello Johnny,
> 
> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
> 
> Mark
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Johnny
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
>>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
>>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>>> curtain.
>>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
>>> will
>>> prove to be useful to you.
>>> 
>>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
>>> drive
>>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
>>> sitting
>>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
>>> who
>>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
>>> installed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
>>> when
>>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
>>> today, I
>>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
>>> before
>>> the upgrade.
>>> 
>>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>>> heat went away.
>>> 
>>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
>>> drain
>>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>>> 
>>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yes,  this is what I meant.  Thanks for correcting me on this.  I assume since 
this is the behavior of the MBP and plastic macbook, that the air would be the 
same.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> The message I replied to does not refer to turning off screen curtain. He 
> wrote "On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen 
> brightness. ." 
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Ricardo did  not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will 
>> turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too.
>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
>> 
>>> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
>>> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Right,
 
 Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
 device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
 would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
 your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no 
 intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover 
 user.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
> iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain 
>> is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to 
>> battery conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your 
>> display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  
>> lol.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Johnny,
>>> 
>>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
>>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 
 How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Johnny
 
 On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
 
> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 
> percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the 
> screen curtain.
> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
> Missy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in 
> heat
> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening 
> of
> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I 
> hope will
> prove to be useful to you.
> 
> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
> drive
> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
> sitting
> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
> 
> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a 
> friend who
> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same 
> being:
> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
> installed.
> 
> 
> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it 
> was when
> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
> today, I
> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
> before
> the upgrade.
> 
> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase 

RE: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Missy Hoppe]

It doesn't on the macbook pro 2011 either. I wish it would save my preference 
to have screen brightness at 0. Ah well.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 1:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

Really?

Oh.  It certainly doesn't on the Macbook pro mid 2010.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> Right,
>>
>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone
want such a feature.  You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On 
the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn
back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone 
without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>
>>> If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
>>> iPhone too (it is still visible with the
brightness way down).
>>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is 
 not a substitute for turning down screen
brightness in regards to battery conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen 
curtain, your display is still blazing away
just with well, a black curtain over it.  lol.

 hth

 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org

 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Johnny,
>
> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>
> Mark
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
>>> more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
>>> completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent 
>>> definite that the backlight is not glowing at
all.
>>> Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen 
>>> curtain.
>>> It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
>>> Missy
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat
>>> generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
>>> battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope 
>>> will
>>> prove to be useful to you.
>>>
>>> F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
>>> drive
>>> and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
>>> sitting
>>> on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
>>> connected, I also have the power cable connected.
>>>
>>> Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend 
>>> who
>>> installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being:
>>> The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
>>> installed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
>>> when
>>> I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
>>> today, I
>>> discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
>>> before
>>> the upgrade.
>>>
>>> After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in
>>> heat went away.
>>>
>>> So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
>>> drain
>>> confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
>>> upgrading/installing Lion.
>>>
>>> F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>

Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

[joseph]

let us know after you've tried it if it works with voiceover.

best

joseph
On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Excellent!  This will definitely be something I'll be trying.  Thank you for 
> the tip.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: M. Taylor
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:37 AM
> Subject: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's 
> Calendar Application
> 
> The following was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG:
>  
> How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion’s Calendar 
> Application
>  
> Hello Everyone, 
>  
> One of my favorite features in Microsoft Outlook is the ability to view only 
> upcoming (active) appointments in the calendar. 
>  
> Apparently, Apple does not think I need this feature in the latest version of 
> iCal.  (grimace)
>  
> While there are certainly some very fine third-party applications that will 
> allow me to see only upcoming appointments, I am of the opinion that less is 
> better; therefore, I resist installing such applications unless absolutely 
> necessary.  Besides, there is no guaranty that said third-party applications, 
> for which I may have to pay a premium, will be VoiceOver (Apple’s software 
> screen reading solution for the blind and low vision) accessible.
>  
> Enter the Mac OS X Lion Dashboard of which I am growing quite fond, and all 
> its marvelous, and for the most part free, widgets.
>  
> It is with such a widget that we can view only upcoming or active 
> appointments.
>  
> Oh, keep in mind that iCal refers to appointments as events. 
>  
> Let’s get started.
>  
> 1.
> Download and install a free Mac OS Dashboard widget called iCal Events.  Its 
> description is as follows: 
> iCal Events... Face the day! Always know what's next on your schedule using 
> iCal Events. iCal Events displays upcoming events from multiple iCal 
> calendars in a beautiful, resizable widget for Dashboard. You can see up to 
> two weeks of upcoming events in the same widget without needing to open iCal.
>  
> 2.
> After installing the widget, I suggest that you close the web browser used to 
> download the widget.
>  
> 3.
> Now go to the Dashboard and see the widget in action.  I suggest using the 
> key combination [Option+LeftArrow] to quickly jump to the Dashboard.  Please 
> note that you can change the number of days shown in the widget by clicking 
> on the Info button.
>  
> Enjoy,
>  
> Mark
> 
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The Navigon saga continues

[Jes Smith]

Well, I connected my Mac to a direct ethernet port last night and downloaded 
Navigon again.
Still, when I try to sync with my IPhone, Navigon doesn't show up.
Jes

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Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, folk,

I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
Anyone else notice this?

Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
there, but VO doesn't report it.

Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a work-around.

Other ideas?

Teresa

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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Barry Hadder]

That is correct.
It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.

Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean how it 
works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the most.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, folk,
> 
> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
> Anyone else notice this?
> 
> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
> there, but VO doesn't report it.
> 
> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
> work-around.
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
> Teresa
> 
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Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Um, I think Mark just said it kind a... ihhim, does?  I mean... work with 
Voiceover?  I'll try it though and see.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: joseph 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X 
Lion's Calendar Application


  let us know after you've tried it if it works with voiceover.


  best


  joseph

  On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


Excellent!  This will definitely be something I'll be trying.  Thank you 
for the tip.

Chris.

  - Original Message -
  From: M. Taylor
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:37 AM
  Subject: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X 
Lion's Calendar Application


  The following was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG:

  How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion’s 
Calendar Application

  Hello Everyone, 

  One of my favorite features in Microsoft Outlook is the ability to view 
only upcoming (active) appointments in the calendar. 

  Apparently, Apple does not think I need this feature in the latest 
version of iCal.  (grimace)

  While there are certainly some very fine third-party applications that 
will allow me to see only upcoming appointments, I am of the opinion that less 
is better; therefore, I resist installing such applications unless absolutely 
necessary.  Besides, there is no guaranty that said third-party applications, 
for which I may have to pay a premium, will be VoiceOver (Apple’s software 
screen reading solution for the blind and low vision) accessible.

  Enter the Mac OS X Lion Dashboard of which I am growing quite fond, and 
all its marvelous, and for the most part free, widgets.

  It is with such a widget that we can view only upcoming or active 
appointments.

  Oh, keep in mind that iCal refers to appointments as events. 

  Let’s get started.

  1.
  Download and install a free Mac OS Dashboard widget called iCal Events.  
Its description is as follows: 
  iCal Events... Face the day! Always know what's next on your schedule 
using iCal Events. iCal Events displays upcoming events from multiple iCal 
calendars in a beautiful, resizable widget for Dashboard. You can see up to two 
weeks of upcoming events in the same widget without needing to open iCal.

  2.
  After installing the widget, I suggest that you close the web browser 
used to download the widget.

  3.
  Now go to the Dashboard and see the widget in action.  I suggest using 
the key combination [Option+LeftArrow] to quickly jump to the Dashboard.  
Please note that you can change the number of days shown in the widget by 
clicking on the Info button.

  Enjoy,

  Mark


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Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users

[Kristyn Leigh]

I have the 2010 Macbook Air running Lion.  

I did not mean to imply that you are wrong about the Macbook Pro. I was just 
adding that it is quite the opposite with the Air.  

Kristyn
On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Really?
> 
> Oh.  It certainly doesn't on the Macbook pro mid 2010.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
> 
>> That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen 
>> brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot.
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Right,
>>> 
>>> Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the 
>>> device.  I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature.  You 
>>> would have a lot of paniced sighted folks.  lol.  On the Mac, restarting 
>>> your macbook will turn back up screen brightness.  But there's no intuitive 
>>> way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the 
 iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down).
 On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain 
> is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to 
> battery conservation.  If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your 
> display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it.  
> lol.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Johnny,
>> 
>> You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by 
>> triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad.
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> How does one enable and disable the screen curtain?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Johnny
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> 
 Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed 
 more than once that my keyboard's backlight is
 completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 
 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all.
 Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the 
 screen curtain.
 It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone.
 Missy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in 
 heat
 generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of
 battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I 
 hope will
 prove to be useful to you.
 
 F Y I:  Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire 
 drive
 and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always 
 sitting
 on my desk when running Lion.  Additionally, when I have the FireWire
 connected, I also have the power cable connected.
 
 Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a 
 friend who
 installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same 
 being:
 The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first 
 installed.
 
 
 Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was 
 when
 I upgraded to Lion.  However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, 
 today, I
 discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been 
 before
 the upgrade.
 
 After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase 
 in
 heat went away.
 
 So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery 
 drain
 confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before
 upgrading/installing Lion.
 
 F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 

Re: Preview issues

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Dan,

> I have 1 annoying thing that is now happening in preview though, it's seems 
> to cut off letters on words that are at either the beginning or end of a 
> line.  So, the word computer might be read as omputer and so on.  I assume 
> other lion users are having this problem too!  If so, any ideas on how to fix 
> it?

Oh yes that's a new issue. I discovered it also and a few friends of mine as 
well. And to be very frank: that issue is much worse then the focus issue 
before. To read a book like that seems to me impossible. 

The only way to fix it is to write to 
accessibil...@apple.com
and to show that it is important to fix that.

Another issue is still not fixed: tables in text documents. That also doesn't 
work. Apple seems not to realize that this is a basic functionality. Really 
annoying.

All the best
Jürgen 

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Re: Preview issues

[Barry Hadder]

Go to www.apple.com/feedback/, choose OS10, and fill out the form.

I suggest that this might be better than writhing to accessibility.com.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> 
>> I have 1 annoying thing that is now happening in preview though, it's seems 
>> to cut off letters on words that are at either the beginning or end of a 
>> line.  So, the word computer might be read as omputer and so on.  I assume 
>> other lion users are having this problem too!  If so, any ideas on how to 
>> fix it?
> 
> Oh yes that's a new issue. I discovered it also and a few friends of mine as 
> well. And to be very frank: that issue is much worse then the focus issue 
> before. To read a book like that seems to me impossible. 
> 
> The only way to fix it is to write to 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> and to show that it is important to fix that.
> 
> Another issue is still not fixed: tables in text documents. That also doesn't 
> work. Apple seems not to realize that this is a basic functionality. Really 
> annoying.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen 
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Re: Weird Sound Loss When I Plug or Unplug Headphones

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I wasn't talking about losing Voice Over, even though that happens too. I meant 
sounds in general. For example, I have internet radio playing in my headphones. 
Then when I unplug the headphones, I have no sound whatsoever until I reboot. I 
don't think I have dust in the jack as Ricardo suggested, like I said this 
behaviour only started in Lion.

Shawn

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Re: The Navigon saga continues

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

And have you tried just downloading it directly on to your phone?

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 11, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Jes Smith wrote:

> Well, I connected my Mac to a direct ethernet port last night and downloaded 
> Navigon again.
> Still, when I try to sync with my IPhone, Navigon doesn't show up.
> Jes
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Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

[M. Taylor]

Joseph,

I would not have posted the notice about the widget to this list if it did not 
work with VoiceOver.

Mark
On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:04 AM, joseph wrote:

> let us know after you've tried it if it works with voiceover.
> 
> best
> 
> joseph
> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Excellent!  This will definitely be something I'll be trying.  Thank you for 
>> the tip.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: M. Taylor
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:37 AM
>> Subject: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's 
>> Calendar Application
>> 
>> The following was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG:
>>  
>> How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion’s Calendar 
>> Application
>>  
>> Hello Everyone, 
>>  
>> One of my favorite features in Microsoft Outlook is the ability to view only 
>> upcoming (active) appointments in the calendar. 
>>  
>> Apparently, Apple does not think I need this feature in the latest version 
>> of iCal.  (grimace)
>>  
>> While there are certainly some very fine third-party applications that will 
>> allow me to see only upcoming appointments, I am of the opinion that less is 
>> better; therefore, I resist installing such applications unless absolutely 
>> necessary.  Besides, there is no guaranty that said third-party 
>> applications, for which I may have to pay a premium, will be VoiceOver 
>> (Apple’s software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision) 
>> accessible.
>>  
>> Enter the Mac OS X Lion Dashboard of which I am growing quite fond, and all 
>> its marvelous, and for the most part free, widgets.
>>  
>> It is with such a widget that we can view only upcoming or active 
>> appointments.
>>  
>> Oh, keep in mind that iCal refers to appointments as events. 
>>  
>> Let’s get started.
>>  
>> 1.
>> Download and install a free Mac OS Dashboard widget called iCal Events.  Its 
>> description is as follows: 
>> iCal Events... Face the day! Always know what's next on your schedule using 
>> iCal Events. iCal Events displays upcoming events from multiple iCal 
>> calendars in a beautiful, resizable widget for Dashboard. You can see up to 
>> two weeks of upcoming events in the same widget without needing to open iCal.
>>  
>> 2.
>> After installing the widget, I suggest that you close the web browser used 
>> to download the widget.
>>  
>> 3.
>> Now go to the Dashboard and see the widget in action.  I suggest using the 
>> key combination [Option+LeftArrow] to quickly jump to the Dashboard.  Please 
>> note that you can change the number of days shown in the widget by clicking 
>> on the Info button.
>>  
>> Enjoy,
>>  
>> Mark
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Re: Burney to the rescue?

[Chris Blouch]

I thought Eamon was an old Apple II adventure environment. If so, you 
could try some of the other Apple II emulators like Virtual II, KEGS and 
Sweet16 and the Bernie II emulator you already mentioned. I've not tried 
any of these with voiceover but worth checking into. Most are free or 
have demo versions.


CB

On 8/12/11 1:18 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi is anybody still following this?  I'm wondering if theres been any 
improvement in accessibility?  It would be nice to play eamon again 
without having to run it in a dosbox on my windows 7 virtual machine 
on my mac.  Three OS stacked ontop of eachother just to play a game 
seems a bit much.


Thanks,
Erik Burggraaf
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system preferences not holding across sessions.

[Joe Paton]

Hi Folks,

I set the behaviour of function keys in system preferences, so the 
box is checked to have f1 et cetera behave as they need to for 
voiceover, then we reboot, and the check has leaped out of the box, 
and the function keys have reverted back.

to there original assignments.

This machine, does not display The login screen, just goes straight 
to the desktop.
Anybody have an idea how to keep certain keyboard settings in system 
prefs in lion after reboot??  I guess there could be other areas 
where settings are not maintained. But what good is a guess?

Thanks good people.

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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Scott Howell]

My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to navigate 
through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can recall.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> That is correct.
>It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
> with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
> 
> Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean how 
> it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the most.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, folk,
>> 
>> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
>> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
>> Anyone else notice this?
>> 
>> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
>> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
>> there, but VO doesn't report it.
>> 
>> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
>> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
>> work-around.
>> 
>> Other ideas?
>> 
>> Teresa
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Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
Can someone tell me how to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard to do a press of
the Home button?  I thought it was done via the escape button, but that only
takes you out of current menus, like the double finger scrub.  Thanks.


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Re: Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question

[Cody]

voiceover plus H should do it
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Holton" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:35 PM
Subject: Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question



Hi.
Can someone tell me how to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard to do a press 
of
the Home button?  I thought it was done via the escape button, but that 
only

takes you out of current menus, like the double finger scrub.  Thanks.


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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Barry Hadder]

Scott,

I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the side 
bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to an item as 
the original post mentioned.





On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
> navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
> recall.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
> 
>> That is correct.
>>   It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
>> with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
>> 
>> Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean how 
>> it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the most.
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, folk,
>>> 
>>> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
>>> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
>>> Anyone else notice this?
>>> 
>>> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
>>> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
>>> there, but VO doesn't report it.
>>> 
>>> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
>>> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
>>> work-around.
>>> 
>>> Other ideas?
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
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Changing gadgets in the dash board

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. When I access the dashboard the only gadget I have is the
calculator. I forgot how to switch gadgets in Snow Leopard via the
keyboartd. Can anyone help me out?

 

Thanks so much. 

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Viewing Music by Album or artist

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. In ITunes 10.3 and earlier, if I activated the browser I
could choose to view my music by album, artist etc and my music would be
nicely grouped. I would like to be able to do this in ITunes 10.4. Now, I
have 500 songs in a table listed alphabetically. Any ideas on how to set up
ITunes to group music by album or artist?

 

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Re: battery life in my MacBook Pro

[John Chilelli]

Hi folks,

Someone please tell me what the command is for me to hear what the battery 
level is at currently on my 13" MBP?

Thanks all,

Johnny


On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:06 AM, Shen wrote:

> OK, before any of you are a bit trigger happy with the reply button, let me 
> preface this message by saying that I understand battery life is not 
> something that is easy to calculate. Each minute your MacBook can be doing 
> different things and the power draw from the battery is not consistent.
> 
> Having said that, I am somewhat convinced the battery life for my MacBook 
> using Lion is now somewhat less than when I had Snow Leopard. I cannot prove 
> it of course with easily reproduced steps. But at the moment, as I am writing 
> this email, my battery status says 20-percent, an hour and 18 minutes 
> remaining.
> If we calculate this up to 100-percent, we know this battery will last 390 
> minutes.
> I of course don't know what the battery life would calculate to be if 
> everything is the same, and I am writing this email under SL instead of Lion.
> But what I do know is that under SL, my battery can give me 10 plus hours of 
> nonstop usage.
> This is doing anything but running Safari. I have  mid-2010 MacBook Pro.
> Again, I am not saying the battery life is definitely less, but it certainly 
> feels that way. Especially when my laptop seems to run a little more warm 
> than it has been in the past.
> 
> I am not seeking any answers. I just want to bring this to your attention so 
> you can be aware of your MacBook's battery life under Lion.
> I imagine this has a lot to do with what some people are saying about the 
> Spotlight. Lion probably has a new way of indexing the files in your system 
> and is caching it more actively than SL. I am not in panic mode yet. I am 
> quite sure Apple will come out with an update to improve the battery life.
> For the meantime, I cannot expect the 10-hours of battery life I had before 
> running SL.
> 
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RE: Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question

[Francisco salvador Crespo]

Vo (CTRL+option) and the letter H

-Mensaje original-
De: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
En nombre de Bill Holton
Enviado el: viernes, 12 de agosto de 2011 06:35 p.m.
Para: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question

Hi.
Can someone tell me how to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard to do a press of
the Home button?  I thought it was done via the escape button, but that only
takes you out of current menus, like the double finger scrub.  Thanks.


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Re: Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question

[Red.Falcon]

Hi there!
Also vo+h+h will put you in the app switcher!
Colin
On 12 Aug 2011, at 22:38, Cody wrote:

> voiceover plus H should do it
> - Original Message - From: "Bill Holton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:35 PM
> Subject: Apple Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone question
> 
> 
>> Hi.
>> Can someone tell me how to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard to do a press of
>> the Home button?  I thought it was done via the escape button, but that only
>> takes you out of current menus, like the double finger scrub.  Thanks.
>> 
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Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Mark,

I would very much appreciate if you could do a podcast on Wigits.

Kawal.
On 12 Aug 2011, at 21:19, M. Taylor wrote:

> Joseph,
> 
> I would not have posted the notice about the widget to this list if it did 
> not work with VoiceOver.
> 
> Mark
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:04 AM, joseph wrote:
> 
>> let us know after you've tried it if it works with voiceover.
>> 
>> best
>> 
>> joseph
>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> Excellent!  This will definitely be something I'll be trying.  Thank you 
>>> for the tip.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: M. Taylor
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:37 AM
>>> Subject: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X 
>>> Lion's Calendar Application
>>> 
>>> The following was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG:
>>> 
>>> How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion’s 
>>> Calendar Application
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone, 
>>> 
>>> One of my favorite features in Microsoft Outlook is the ability to view 
>>> only upcoming (active) appointments in the calendar. 
>>> 
>>> Apparently, Apple does not think I need this feature in the latest version 
>>> of iCal.  (grimace)
>>> 
>>> While there are certainly some very fine third-party applications that will 
>>> allow me to see only upcoming appointments, I am of the opinion that less 
>>> is better; therefore, I resist installing such applications unless 
>>> absolutely necessary.  Besides, there is no guaranty that said third-party 
>>> applications, for which I may have to pay a premium, will be VoiceOver 
>>> (Apple’s software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision) 
>>> accessible.
>>> 
>>> Enter the Mac OS X Lion Dashboard of which I am growing quite fond, and all 
>>> its marvelous, and for the most part free, widgets.
>>> 
>>> It is with such a widget that we can view only upcoming or active 
>>> appointments.
>>> 
>>> Oh, keep in mind that iCal refers to appointments as events. 
>>> 
>>> Let’s get started.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Download and install a free Mac OS Dashboard widget called iCal Events.  
>>> Its description is as follows: 
>>> iCal Events... Face the day! Always know what's next on your schedule using 
>>> iCal Events. iCal Events displays upcoming events from multiple iCal 
>>> calendars in a beautiful, resizable widget for Dashboard. You can see up to 
>>> two weeks of upcoming events in the same widget without needing to open 
>>> iCal.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> After installing the widget, I suggest that you close the web browser used 
>>> to download the widget.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Now go to the Dashboard and see the widget in action.  I suggest using the 
>>> key combination [Option+LeftArrow] to quickly jump to the Dashboard.  
>>> Please note that you can change the number of days shown in the widget by 
>>> clicking on the Info button.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: Changing gadgets in the dash board

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Paul!
You have to enter the window view with vo+f2+f2 then you can see which options 
you have!
And then choose them!
Colin
On 12 Aug 2011, at 22:47, Paul Hunt wrote:

> Hello everyone. When I access the dashboard the only gadget I have is the 
> calculator. I forgot how to switch gadgets in Snow Leopard via the keyboartd. 
> Can anyone help me out?
>  
> Thanks so much.
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Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

It works flawlessly with voice over, thanks for the tip!
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On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:19 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Joseph,
> 
> I would not have posted the notice about the widget to this list if it did 
> not work with VoiceOver.
> 
> Mark
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:04 AM, joseph wrote:
> 
>> let us know after you've tried it if it works with voiceover.
>> 
>> best
>> 
>> joseph
>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> Excellent!  This will definitely be something I'll be trying.  Thank you 
>>> for the tip.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: M. Taylor
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:37 AM
>>> Subject: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X 
>>> Lion's Calendar Application
>>> 
>>> The following was just posted to the Candle Shore BLOG:
>>> 
>>> How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion’s 
>>> Calendar Application
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone, 
>>> 
>>> One of my favorite features in Microsoft Outlook is the ability to view 
>>> only upcoming (active) appointments in the calendar. 
>>> 
>>> Apparently, Apple does not think I need this feature in the latest version 
>>> of iCal.  (grimace)
>>> 
>>> While there are certainly some very fine third-party applications that will 
>>> allow me to see only upcoming appointments, I am of the opinion that less 
>>> is better; therefore, I resist installing such applications unless 
>>> absolutely necessary.  Besides, there is no guaranty that said third-party 
>>> applications, for which I may have to pay a premium, will be VoiceOver 
>>> (Apple’s software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision) 
>>> accessible.
>>> 
>>> Enter the Mac OS X Lion Dashboard of which I am growing quite fond, and all 
>>> its marvelous, and for the most part free, widgets.
>>> 
>>> It is with such a widget that we can view only upcoming or active 
>>> appointments.
>>> 
>>> Oh, keep in mind that iCal refers to appointments as events. 
>>> 
>>> Let’s get started.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Download and install a free Mac OS Dashboard widget called iCal Events.  
>>> Its description is as follows: 
>>> iCal Events... Face the day! Always know what's next on your schedule using 
>>> iCal Events. iCal Events displays upcoming events from multiple iCal 
>>> calendars in a beautiful, resizable widget for Dashboard. You can see up to 
>>> two weeks of upcoming events in the same widget without needing to open 
>>> iCal.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> After installing the widget, I suggest that you close the web browser used 
>>> to download the widget.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Now go to the Dashboard and see the widget in action.  I suggest using the 
>>> key combination [Option+LeftArrow] to quickly jump to the Dashboard.  
>>> Please note that you can change the number of days shown in the widget by 
>>> clicking on the Info button.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: Changing gadgets in the dash board

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Go to your window chooser list with vo+F2-F2, then you should be able to bring 
up the widget of your choice.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Hunt 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:47 PM
  Subject: Changing gadgets in the dash board


  Hello everyone. When I access the dashboard the only gadget I have is the 
calculator. I forgot how to switch gadgets in Snow Leopard via the keyboartd. 
Can anyone help me out?

   

  Thanks so much. 


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Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Go to the grid view with command+option+5.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Hunt 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; accessibil...@apple.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:52 PM
  Subject: Viewing Music by Album or artist


  Hello everyone. In ITunes 10.3 and earlier, if I activated the browser I 
could choose to view my music by album, artist etc and my music would be nicely 
grouped. I would like to be able to do this in ITunes 10.4. Now, I have 500 
songs in a table listed alphabetically. Any ideas on how to set up ITunes to 
group music by album or artist?

   

  Thanks so much and I hope you have a nice weekend..


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Re: Weird Sound Loss When I Plug or Unplug Headphones

[Bart Bunting]

Hi Everyone,

I can confirm that I have also seen this behaviour.

I have a macbook pro and Lion.

I to have found no way to restore sound after it goes silent.  The
laptop appears to be functioning perfectly apart from sound not working.

I have also confirmed that the sound is neither muted or volume turned
down.

Reboot was the only fix I have found.

Probably happened 4 or 5 times now.

Kind regards

Bart

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:45:29 -0500, Shawn Krasniuk  
wrote:
> I wasn't talking about losing Voice Over, even though that happens too. I 
> meant sounds in general. For example, I have internet radio playing in my 
> headphones. Then when I unplug the headphones, I have no sound whatsoever 
> until I reboot. I don't think I have dust in the jack as Ricardo suggested, 
> like I said this behaviour only started in Lion.
> 
> Shawn
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Re: versioning in text edit

[Marc Workman]

Jessica,

That's right.  The version browsing controls do not come up automatically for 
me either.  I feel like it used to when I first played around with versioning 
after Lion first came out, but perhaps not.  At any rate, you can find the 
vertical slider byVO spacing on the "Browse all Versions" button, and then 
after you are taken back to the main window, bring up the window chooser with 
VO F2 twice.  You will then want to look for "Version Browsing Controls", and 
there you will find the vertical slider.

I'm not sure about using VO space to get to the Doc.  I use VO D to get to the 
Doc.

I don't have Pages, but I know versioning and auto saving can be included in 
applications by developers, so I would be surprised if it weren't in Pages.

HTH

Marc doesn't come up for me either.
On 2011-08-11, at 7:08 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:

> hi Paul,
> 
> I've been playing with versions a lot today trying to get the hang of it 
> myself. it definitely looks like a neat feature! but I can't seem to get it 
> to work. I get what you mean about saving a version, but when I go to the 
> "browse all versions" and VO space, it just gets sluggish for a minute and 
> then brings me back to the main window where my text is. I don't see the 
> vertical splitter you use to pick a version. is versions on by default? I'm 
> thinking it is because when I pressed command s it said "saving version." but 
> I can't seem to find the vertical splitter to select a different version.
> 
> also, and this may just be my system, after I quit text edit after playing 
> with versions, I can no longer use VO space to get to the dock. it just dings 
> at me until I unload and reload voiceover! very strange!
> 
> is it possible to use versions in pages or just text edit? I didn't see the 
> option in pages.
> thanks!
> peace and positivity
> Jessica and Goldina
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> On 2011-08-11, at 5:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Bless you!  I absolutely never would have looked for it there.  thanks!
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> It is already possible to disable the lock feature.
>>> 
>>> Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options.  You will find a 
>>> "lock documents" check box.  There is also a pop up button where you can 
>>> change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked.
>>> 
>>> You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little strange 
>>> to find it there, but that's where it is.
>>> 
>>> Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I can 
>>> offer a few comments.
>>> 
>>> First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two 
>>> things.  In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions.  I'm not 
>>> even sure it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when you 
>>> left off.
>>> 
>>> Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current 
>>> version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do 
>>> something else like check email.
>>> 
>>> When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another 
>>> document.  And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a 
>>> certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using 
>>> command S.
>>> 
>>> So here's an example and a test you can perform.  I open a document at 4:00 
>>> and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want it in.  
>>> I work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto saving all my 
>>> changes.  I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a bunch of changes 
>>> to what I've written, and the whole time it is auto saving everything I'm 
>>> doing, which means I can close text edit and open it with all the changes 
>>> still there.  Let's say it's now 5:00, and I hit command S again, and I 
>>> decide that the changes I made are terrible, and I want to go back to what 
>>> I had at 4:30.  What I would do is stop interacting with the scroll area, 
>>> then VO right over to the versions menu button.  I can then browse all 
>>> versions.  Once you VO space on browse all versions, you VO right over to 
>>> the vertical slider, interact with it, select the 4:30 version, stop 
>>> interacting and VO left and VO space on the restore button.  You could do a 
>>> similar test with shorter intervals.
>>> 
>>> I think of versions as snapshots.  So I know I'm often reluctant to simply 
>>> delete whole paragraphs from papers that I'm writing.  I will often copy 
>>> them into a different document or paste them at the bottom until I know for 
>>> sure I'm not going to use them.  With versions, though, I can hit command S 
>>> before I make major revisions like deleting paragraphs, and if I note the 
>>> time, then I can always go back to the state it was when I hit command S, 
>>> which means I don't have to worry about saving the paragraphs

Re: Burney to the rescue?

[erik burggraaf]

I tried a bunch of them including virttual Ii, and sweet 16 along with berney, 
but they were pretty well a bust.

Best,

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On 2011-08-12, at 4:43 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I thought Eamon was an old Apple II adventure environment. If so, you could 
> try some of the other Apple II emulators like Virtual II, KEGS and Sweet16 
> and the Bernie II emulator you already mentioned. I've not tried any of these 
> with voiceover but worth checking into. Most are free or have demo versions.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/12/11 1:18 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>> Hi is anybody still following this?  I'm wondering if theres been any 
>> improvement in accessibility?  It would be nice to play eamon again without 
>> having to run it in a dosbox on my windows 7 virtual machine on my mac.  
>> Three OS stacked ontop of eachother just to play a game seems a bit much.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Erik Burggraaf
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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Scott Howell]

Really? Now that is quite interesting and I will have to dig up my SL install 
and check that out because that has not been possible for me. So, are you using 
just the standard arrow keys? You are not using quick nav etc.? I am quite 
interested in how you were accomplishing this.
On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to an 
> item as the original post mentioned.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
>> navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
>> recall.
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>> 
>>> That is correct.
>>>  It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
>>> with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
>>> 
>>> Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
>>> how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the 
>>> most.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, folk,
 
 I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
 first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
 Anyone else notice this?
 
 Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
 anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
 there, but VO doesn't report it.
 
 Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
 navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
 work-around.
 
 Other ideas?
 
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Re: How To View Only Upcoming or Active Appointments In Mac OS X Lion's Calendar Application

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Mark,

great Mark, that was really a missing feature. The search with a point was more 
or less a bad option to find next appointments.

Big thank for that.

All the best
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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Barry Hadder]

Well, Scott, b my guest.  It really wasn't any big deal.  It worked about like 
any other situation in which I would move the vo cursor and the keyboard would 
track.  Probably a little more flaky than most situations, but nine times out 
of ten it would work.  I should also say that I'm speaking of the dialogs that 
come up when you need to brows for a file to open, but it was probably the same 
in Finder proper as the sidebar was the same control in both cases.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Really? Now that is quite interesting and I will have to dig up my SL install 
> and check that out because that has not been possible for me. So, are you 
> using just the standard arrow keys? You are not using quick nav etc.? I am 
> quite interested in how you were accomplishing this.
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
>> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to an 
>> item as the original post mentioned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
>>> navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
>>> recall.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>> 
 That is correct.
 It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
 with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
 
 Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
 how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the 
 most.
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
> Hi, folk,
> 
> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
> Anyone else notice this?
> 
> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
> there, but VO doesn't report it.
> 
> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
> work-around.
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
> Teresa
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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Scott Howell]

Nope, we're on two different pages here. I was referring to the FInder's 
Sidebar specifically. YOu are correct that in the dialog boxes for 
opening/selecting files within apps the sidebar behaved as you stated.
Thanks for clarifying.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> Well, Scott, b my guest.  It really wasn't any big deal.  It worked about 
> like any other situation in which I would move the vo cursor and the keyboard 
> would track.  Probably a little more flaky than most situations, but nine 
> times out of ten it would work.  I should also say that I'm speaking of the 
> dialogs that come up when you need to brows for a file to open, but it was 
> probably the same in Finder proper as the sidebar was the same control in 
> both cases.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Really? Now that is quite interesting and I will have to dig up my SL 
>> install and check that out because that has not been possible for me. So, 
>> are you using just the standard arrow keys? You are not using quick nav 
>> etc.? I am quite interested in how you were accomplishing this.
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
>>> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to 
>>> an item as the original post mentioned.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
 navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
 recall.
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
 
> That is correct.
> It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
> with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with 
> vo.
> 
> Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
> how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered 
> the most.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, folk,
>> 
>> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
>> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through 
>> it. Anyone else notice this?
>> 
>> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
>> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it 
>> goes there, but VO doesn't report it.
>> 
>> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
>> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
>> work-around.
>> 
>> Other ideas?
>> 
>> Teresa
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deleting sections of audio in Amadeus pro?

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
I have an audio file that I'd like  to delete sections out of. But I'm not sure 
how to select portions to delete, and I'm also not sure how to delete the 
portions of the audio file? Is this even accessible with voiceover? I have the 
previous version of Amadeus pro, I haven't gotten the payed upgrade yet.
Thanks,
Courtney

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RE: Viewing Music by Album or artist

[Paul Hunt]

Chris, I see my albums but don't see the songs in each of them.

How can I see the albums with their songs?

 

Thanks so much.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Go to the grid view with command+option+5.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Paul Hunt   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; accessibil...@apple.com 

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:52 PM

Subject: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Hello everyone. In ITunes 10.3 and earlier, if I activated the browser I
could choose to view my music by album, artist etc and my music would be
nicely grouped. I would like to be able to do this in ITunes 10.4. Now, I
have 500 songs in a table listed alphabetically. Any ideas on how to set up
ITunes to group music by album or artist?

 

Thanks so much and I hope you have a nice weekend..

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RE: Changing gadgets in the dash board

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks. It worked.

 

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Gilland
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing gadgets in the dash board

 

Go to your window chooser list with vo+F2-F2, then you should be able to
bring up the widget of your choice.

 

Chris.

 

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From: Paul Hunt   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:47 PM

Subject: Changing gadgets in the dash board

 

Hello everyone. When I access the dashboard the only gadget I have is the
calculator. I forgot how to switch gadgets in Snow Leopard via the
keyboartd. Can anyone help me out?

 

Thanks so much. 

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Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Can you vo+space on the album, then interact with the table, and then vo+right 
arrow over to the name column?  then just vo+down arrow through each track.  
It's annoying I know, but that's what you have to do.  Apple kind a broke the 
accessibility slightly in that area in ITunes 10.4.  Same goes with the sources 
list.  You have to interact, then vo+up and down in order to hear things as you 
move.  It's downright annoying, but for now it's what we have.

Chris.

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  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:31 PM
  Subject: RE: Viewing Music by Album or artist


  Chris, I see my albums but don't see the songs in each of them.

  How can I see the albums with their songs?

   

  Thanks so much.

   

   

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

   

  Go to the grid view with command+option+5.

   

  Chris.

   

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From: Paul Hunt 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; accessibil...@apple.com 

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:52 PM

Subject: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Hello everyone. In ITunes 10.3 and earlier, if I activated the browser I 
could choose to view my music by album, artist etc and my music would be nicely 
grouped. I would like to be able to do this in ITunes 10.4. Now, I have 500 
songs in a table listed alphabetically. Any ideas on how to set up ITunes to 
group music by album or artist?

 

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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[larry]

   I have also noticed issues in navigating the sidebar.  I recently 
downloaded a program to the downloads folder and now can't find the file. 
Sighted assistance tells me that the downloads folder is indicated in the 
sidebar.  Is there anyway I can find my downloads folder and then get to the 
file I need.  I didn't have this prowlem with the previous operating system. 
I could be missing something.

Thanks much for your help.
Larry.
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From: "Barry Hadder" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion



Scott,

I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to 
an item as the original post mentioned.






On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
recall.


On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:


That is correct.
  It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion. 
As with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track 
with vo.


Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered 
the most.


On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:


Hi, folk,

I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through 
it. Anyone else notice this?


Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it 
goes there, but VO doesn't report it.


Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
work-around.


Other ideas?

Teresa

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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Barry Hadder]

Hi,

Your Downloads folder  should be in your home directory unless you or someone 
moved it.  Just hit command-shift-h and you should be able to find it.


On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:56 PM, larry wrote:

>   I have also noticed issues in navigating the sidebar.  I recently 
> downloaded a program to the downloads folder and now can't find the file. 
> Sighted assistance tells me that the downloads folder is indicated in the 
> sidebar.  Is there anyway I can find my downloads folder and then get to the 
> file I need.  I didn't have this prowlem with the previous operating system. 
> I could be missing something.
> Thanks much for your help.
> Larry.
> - Original Message - From: "Barry Hadder" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion
> 
> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
>> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to an 
>> item as the original post mentioned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
>>> navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
>>> recall.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>> 
 That is correct.
  It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion. As 
 with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
 
 Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
 how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the 
 most.
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
> Hi, folk,
> 
> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
> Anyone else notice this?
> 
> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
> there, but VO doesn't report it.
> 
> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
> work-around.
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
> Teresa
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keyboard commander feature in Lion

[Chris Snyder]

Hi folks,
In lion, it doesn't seem like I can tell  keyboard commander to make a command 
that will open a folder in finder.
Did Apple remove the open finder item option in Keyboard Commander? 
Friendly,
Chris

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