Re: MoveAddict still vaporware.

2011-01-28 Thread Geoff Waaler
Thanks Randy, Esther, and Chuck,

I now have it working, though after what amounted to three installs I could 
have sure done a lot of copying and deleting and saved the five bucks :) 

I initially attempted to follow Esther's instructions, but cut had no affect.  
I then hid MoveAddict from both the doc and status menu.  This apparently 
caused a warning to display which precluded going into the dialog.  I tried 
rebooting, to no avail.

I then tried the suggestion I received from the support group, which was to 
launch the terminal app and enter:
"defaults delete com.kapeli.moveaddict".  This time it appeared to be 
successful (without any additional parms) since it was necessary to reenter my 
registration.

I then took the following steps over both "unknown" fields:
1. Interact:
2. Even though Mouse is configured to follow VO I pressed vo-command-f5 for 
good measure.
3. Confirmed that the mouse was in the field (vo-f5).
4. Press the desired shortcut key (i.g. command-x for cut).
5. Stop interacting.

As Chuck observed, the fields still show "unknown", but I am now able to 
cut/paste.

Best regards.
Geoff


On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> 
> What moveAddict tech  support told me is that the standard mac key commands 
> for cut and paste are actually in the  invisible part of the preferences.
> "Keyboard shortcuts window;
> 
>> Cut keyboard shortcut unknown
>> paste keyboard shortcut unknown"
> when I asked how I enter a key command for cut and paste they said that the 
> default is the standard mac commands! They could at least make these visible 
> using VoiceOver!
> 
> Talk soon
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I 
>> decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24.  
>> To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences 
>> file "com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist" from directory "/Library/Preferences/
>> 
>> This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to 
>> navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message "one file 
>> cut", however, it still does not function.
>> 
>> I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile:
>> 
>> General:
>> Startup
>> Start at login is checked
>> Show in doc not checked
>> Show in menu bar checked.
>> Keyboard shortcuts:
>> Cut keyboard shortcut unknown
>> paste keyboard shortcut unknown
>> 
>> I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the defaults 
>> as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem.
>> 
>> The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut 
>> keys.  I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits 
>> the "character deleted" sound and the field is unchanged.  I tried 
>> interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail.
>> 
>> In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the 
>> option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another 
>> via command-x and command-v but this had no affect.  Since I apparently can 
>> not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> TIA and best regards.
>> Geoff
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Re: Dropbox accessibility

2011-01-28 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm not sticking up for Dropbox but perhaps there's not much they can do, how 
is the software written for a start? It may not be written in a programming 
language that's compatible with Voiceover.

Yes of course it would be nice to see Dropbox more accessible, I use it here 
and I use the paid version but 2 things to bare in mind.

Firstly, most people are using the feee version of Dropbox thus Dropbox 
themselves are not making any money for the customer on their software so they 
may feel given that the choice is clear to the user, if you don't like what we 
offer then go somewhere else, you may like to try Sendspace for example.

And finally, the developers of Dropbox are under no legal obligation whatever 
to make their software accessible as far as I'm aware.


On 28/01/2011, at 5:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I have to agree here. I've written them several times and they just shrug us 
> off.. you can try though and keep trying but I'm so fed up with them giving 
> me the run around that I've quit trying.
> 
> S
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:23 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Do what ever you want to do, it will not help.
>> As I said they don't care.
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> So do you think it shouldn't be brought to their attention as much, and as 
>>> by as many people regardless?  How else will they care?
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:05 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 They don't care they don't half to.
 
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hello mac users.
> Copied below is a message I just recently sent to Drop box about the lack 
> of accessibility within they're mac application.
> If you, like me, feel that the Dropbox app should be made accessible, 
> send them a message by opening your web item rotor and choosing the 
> feedback link from the links area.
> Thanks.
> 
> Copied text to Dropbox
> 
> Hello Dropbox team.
> I'd like to report a problem that I would class as a bug report my self.
> This has to do with the lack of accessibility within the Dropbox for mac 
> application.
> When I launch the Dropbox app, I get no feedback from the built in screen 
> reading software on the mac.
> VoiceOver is the free screen reading solution built in to every mac and 
> Apple's developer documentation makes reference on how an application can 
> be made to be accessible while using VoiceOver.
> Thanks for reading.
> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: Dropbox accessibility

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
In theory if the government were to use it it would have to be made accessible. 

On 28/01/2011, at 0:44, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> I'm not sticking up for Dropbox but perhaps there's not much they can do, how 
> is the software written for a start? It may not be written in a programming 
> language that's compatible with Voiceover.
> 
> Yes of course it would be nice to see Dropbox more accessible, I use it here 
> and I use the paid version but 2 things to bare in mind.
> 
> Firstly, most people are using the feee version of Dropbox thus Dropbox 
> themselves are not making any money for the customer on their software so 
> they may feel given that the choice is clear to the user, if you don't like 
> what we offer then go somewhere else, you may like to try Sendspace for 
> example.
> 
> And finally, the developers of Dropbox are under no legal obligation whatever 
> to make their software accessible as far as I'm aware.
> 
> 
> On 28/01/2011, at 5:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I have to agree here. I've written them several times and they just shrug us 
>> off.. you can try though and keep trying but I'm so fed up with them giving 
>> me the run around that I've quit trying.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:23 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Do what ever you want to do, it will not help.
>>> As I said they don't care.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 So do you think it shouldn't be brought to their attention as much, and as 
 by as many people regardless?  How else will they care?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:05 PM, louie wrote:
 
> They don't care they don't half to.
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hello mac users.
>> Copied below is a message I just recently sent to Drop box about the 
>> lack of accessibility within they're mac application.
>> If you, like me, feel that the Dropbox app should be made accessible, 
>> send them a message by opening your web item rotor and choosing the 
>> feedback link from the links area.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Copied text to Dropbox
>> 
>> Hello Dropbox team.
>> I'd like to report a problem that I would class as a bug report my self.
>> This has to do with the lack of accessibility within the Dropbox for mac 
>> application.
>> When I launch the Dropbox app, I get no feedback from the built in 
>> screen reading software on the mac.
>> VoiceOver is the free screen reading solution built in to every mac and 
>> Apple's developer documentation makes reference on how an application 
>> can be made to be accessible while using VoiceOver.
>> Thanks for reading.
>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Stephanie Mitchell
There isn't anything else apart from file that I can tell.  How 
do i get my scanner to work? i'm using a printer and scanner in 
one.  The printer works fine withthe mac, so how do i get the 
scanning to work.

Steph


- Original Message -
From: Geoff Waaler I too am using tthe tryal version of FineReader express and have 
never gotten it to work, so this suggestion may be worth every 
penny you paid for it :).


Disclaimer aside, I believe you need to select your scanner in 
the menu associated with "get images from".  If your only choice 
is "file" then either you don't have a Twane scanner, or the 
software supporting your scanner is not recognized by ABBYY.  
Once your scanner is selected, pressing a button such as: 
"convert to text document" should activate your scanner.  Except 
on my system where it consistently hangs up even though I have a 
twane compatible device.


Hope you get further than I have so far.
Geoff



On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote:

Hi again,
Sorry for all the questions but i am a new user.  I got abbyy 
working but can't find a scan button.  There are convert options, 
and a thing to ask where to get the immage from.  It is set to 
file and there are other options in the menu that pops up when i 
click it.  but vo won't read the items.  What's the easist way to 
scan a document?

Thanks,
Steph

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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Stephanie Mitchell
So Mary, what do you use to scan? So far, iris is not worth it 
since i can't download it to try.

Steph


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From: Mary Otten Your experience with the hang ups with abbyy FR express mirrors 
my sighted husband's when he tried this app at school on the 
macbook the school provides and a scanner which works fine on the 
Windows side with Omnipage and is, so far as he can tell, twain 
compliant.  He gave up on Abbyy entirely after messing around 
with it for a while and not being able to get any scanning action 
at all.  the whole process sounds entirely like way too much 
hassle to me, although I know there are people on this list who 
use abbyy and say it works great for them.  For me, it is a 
matter of my time and less stress being worth a lot.


Mary

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Re: Drag&Drop across windows

2011-01-28 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I saw the procedure for dragging and dropping and i couldn't help but 
wondering, doesn't VO have a command/commands that puts one window on one half 
of the screen and the other on the other half? I think so. That way you don't 
need to bother with all this resizing and moving stuff. Just a thought.
/Krister

28 jan 2011 kl. 06.58 skrev Anne Robertson:

> Hello Ricardo,
> 
> On 28 Jan 2011, at 05:12, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Cool!
>> 
>> Thanks for the detailed Instructions.  
>> 
> No problem.
> 
>> That sounds like a lot of work for very little reward though.  In all the 
>> time couldn't you have copy, pasted, and deleted the original?  Or if you 
>> have a couple of dollars to spend, you could cut and paste with moveaddict?
>> 
> True, but I've never bothered with Move Addict and I seem to have forgotten 
> to say that this works for multiple files at once whether contiguous or 
> noncontiguous, as long as the mouse is over one of them.
> 
> I'm also a bit minimalist when it comes to applications. I don't like to have 
> more than I need.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: Dropbox accessibility

2011-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yes,

but accessible is a broad term.  For the most part, I happen to find dropbox 
accessible.  Not for nothing, I rarely, no.  Never found myself  needing to 
change any preferences after I installed. it.  Their isn't many options in 
there to begin with.  But I can do what dropbox is pretty much meant to do.  
Save files in the cloud and access them on all my devices that have an internet 
connection.  Not saying I don't want the preference issue fixed of course.

Ricardo Walker
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Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> In theory if the government were to use it it would have to be made 
> accessible. 
> 
> On 28/01/2011, at 0:44, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sticking up for Dropbox but perhaps there's not much they can do, 
>> how is the software written for a start? It may not be written in a 
>> programming language that's compatible with Voiceover.
>> 
>> Yes of course it would be nice to see Dropbox more accessible, I use it here 
>> and I use the paid version but 2 things to bare in mind.
>> 
>> Firstly, most people are using the feee version of Dropbox thus Dropbox 
>> themselves are not making any money for the customer on their software so 
>> they may feel given that the choice is clear to the user, if you don't like 
>> what we offer then go somewhere else, you may like to try Sendspace for 
>> example.
>> 
>> And finally, the developers of Dropbox are under no legal obligation 
>> whatever to make their software accessible as far as I'm aware.
>> 
>> 
>> On 28/01/2011, at 5:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I have to agree here. I've written them several times and they just shrug 
>>> us off.. you can try though and keep trying but I'm so fed up with them 
>>> giving me the run around that I've quit trying.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:23 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 Do what ever you want to do, it will not help.
 As I said they don't care.
 
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> So do you think it shouldn't be brought to their attention as much, and 
> as by as many people regardless?  How else will they care?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:05 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> They don't care they don't half to.
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello mac users.
>>> Copied below is a message I just recently sent to Drop box about the 
>>> lack of accessibility within they're mac application.
>>> If you, like me, feel that the Dropbox app should be made accessible, 
>>> send them a message by opening your web item rotor and choosing the 
>>> feedback link from the links area.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Copied text to Dropbox
>>> 
>>> Hello Dropbox team.
>>> I'd like to report a problem that I would class as a bug report my self.
>>> This has to do with the lack of accessibility within the Dropbox for 
>>> mac application.
>>> When I launch the Dropbox app, I get no feedback from the built in 
>>> screen reading software on the mac.
>>> VoiceOver is the free screen reading solution built in to every mac and 
>>> Apple's developer documentation makes reference on how an application 
>>> can be made to be accessible while using VoiceOver.
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>> Matthew Campbell.
>>> 
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Re: Dropbox accessibility

2011-01-28 Thread Dane Trethowan
Here here! yep its a pain if you have more than 1 account I suppose but most 
people don't.


On 28/01/2011, at 8:53 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Yes,
> 
> but accessible is a broad term.  For the most part, I happen to find dropbox 
> accessible.  Not for nothing, I rarely, no.  Never found myself  needing to 
> change any preferences after I installed. it.  Their isn't many options in 
> there to begin with.  But I can do what dropbox is pretty much meant to do.  
> Save files in the cloud and access them on all my devices that have an 
> internet connection.  Not saying I don't want the preference issue fixed of 
> course.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> In theory if the government were to use it it would have to be made 
>> accessible. 
>> 
>> On 28/01/2011, at 0:44, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not sticking up for Dropbox but perhaps there's not much they can do, 
>>> how is the software written for a start? It may not be written in a 
>>> programming language that's compatible with Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Yes of course it would be nice to see Dropbox more accessible, I use it 
>>> here and I use the paid version but 2 things to bare in mind.
>>> 
>>> Firstly, most people are using the feee version of Dropbox thus Dropbox 
>>> themselves are not making any money for the customer on their software so 
>>> they may feel given that the choice is clear to the user, if you don't like 
>>> what we offer then go somewhere else, you may like to try Sendspace for 
>>> example.
>>> 
>>> And finally, the developers of Dropbox are under no legal obligation 
>>> whatever to make their software accessible as far as I'm aware.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28/01/2011, at 5:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I have to agree here. I've written them several times and they just shrug 
 us off.. you can try though and keep trying but I'm so fed up with them 
 giving me the run around that I've quit trying.
 
 S
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:23 PM, louie wrote:
 
> Do what ever you want to do, it will not help.
> As I said they don't care.
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> So do you think it shouldn't be brought to their attention as much, and 
>> as by as many people regardless?  How else will they care?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:05 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> They don't care they don't half to.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hello mac users.
 Copied below is a message I just recently sent to Drop box about the 
 lack of accessibility within they're mac application.
 If you, like me, feel that the Dropbox app should be made accessible, 
 send them a message by opening your web item rotor and choosing the 
 feedback link from the links area.
 Thanks.
 
 Copied text to Dropbox
 
 Hello Dropbox team.
 I'd like to report a problem that I would class as a bug report my 
 self.
 This has to do with the lack of accessibility within the Dropbox for 
 mac application.
 When I launch the Dropbox app, I get no feedback from the built in 
 screen reading software on the mac.
 VoiceOver is the free screen reading solution built in to every mac 
 and Apple's developer documentation makes reference on how an 
 application can be made to be accessible while using VoiceOver.
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Re: Installing a program on the Mac

2011-01-28 Thread denise avant
Jeff 
This is it right now the file is in my downloads folder howdy I get to the 
application folder


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

> Some disk images, however do not include an install program.  In such cases, 
> copy the file with an extention of .app to your applications folder.  You can 
> then go into finder, press control-shift-c, locate the volume of the disk 
> image and press command-e to eject it.  You can then delete the disk image 
> file.
> 
> HTH.
> Geoff
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Normally, you simply open the installer program and follow the prompts.  Is 
>> there something unique about the program you are attempting to install?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2011-01-27, at 10:34 PM, denise avant wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Can someone tell e how to install a program on the Mac
>>> 
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Re: Drag&Drop across windows

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Krister,

I can't find a command that splits the screen into two equal windows. The 
commands I know of divide the screen into 9 sections and that won't work for 
this procedure.

The aim is to have as big a target as possible to avoid mistakes.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 28 Jan 2011, at 10:48, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> I saw the procedure for dragging and dropping and i couldn't help but 
> wondering, doesn't VO have a command/commands that puts one window on one 
> half of the screen and the other on the other half? I think so. That way you 
> don't need to bother with all this resizing and moving stuff. Just a thought.

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Re: Drag&Drop across windows

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

On 28 Jan 2011, at 07:40, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> but how do you let's say drag from a folder to a table where the file is 
> suposed to be?

What situation are you talking about here? My instructions are on how to move a 
file or files from one folder to another.

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Re: Installing a program on the Mac

2011-01-28 Thread Stephanie Mitchell
go to the file.  Press conmand c to copy.  Go to the finder.  in 
there, there is a folder called applicNs.  Press conmand o to 
open that; then conmand v to paste the file.

Hope that helps.
Steph


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From: denise avant To: "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com" 

Date sent: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 05:12:21 -0600
Subject: Re: Installing a program on the Mac

Jeff
This is it right now the file is in my downloads folder howdy I 
get to the application folder



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Geoff Waaler 
 wrote:


Some disk images, however do not include an install program.  In 
such cases, copy the file with an extention of .app to your 
applications folder.  You can then go into finder, press 
control-shift-c, locate the volume of the disk image and press 
command-e to eject it.  You can then delete the disk image file.


HTH.
Geoff

On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Normally, you simply open the installer program and follow the 
prompts.  Is there something unique about the program you are 
attempting to install?


Later...

On 2011-01-27, at 10:34 PM, denise avant wrote:

Hi all
Can someone tell e how to install a program on the Mac


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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Steph,

Try scanning using Image Capture which is already on your Mac. That will create 
a file for ABBYY FineReader to open.

I use it this way for single pages, but for books, I use VueScan to scan the 
whole book into one file then the file is opened automatically by FineReader.

VueScan creates much clearer images than Image Capture, so the results are much 
better.

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Re: finding pages on facebook

2011-01-28 Thread Colin M
Hi All!
Ok maybe facebook have not implemented that in the UK yet!
All I can say is I can still get to my pages from the friends link!
So I'll put down what happens from when I log in!
[ this is m.facebook ]
On the home screen I go down to the friends link and vo+space on that!
On the next screen I can scroll down to the pages link [ this is just after 
phonebook link] and vo+space on pages!
Then I am on the pages that I have liked! :]
So if this does not happen to you then I predict I might be getting your 
version soon!
But not yet!
All the best!
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 28 Jan 2011, at 03:18, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Try again. I can asure you it i not anymore. you have to now search for a 
> page you think you liked and look at it.
> 
> S
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> It use to be there.
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I can confirm this. the only thing there that starts with a p is profile. 
>>> the pages link is not there.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Colin M wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sara!
 On what are you looking at m.facebook on is it imac or one of the others!
 On mine it is how I said before!
 If your on a mbp or imac when your on the second page open the web rota 
 vo+u  and in the links column see if it brings up pages by typing paa, it 
 should be there!
 Colin
 Qapla!
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
 On 27 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Sara Waggle wrote:
 
> Hmm..I don't see it there.  
> Any other suggestions?  
> Sara
> On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarai!
>> When on your home page just select your friends link!
>> And on the next page you should find a link for your pages it should 
>> just be after phonebook!
>> hth Colin
>> Qapla!
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 22 Jan 2011, at 17:08, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> 
>>> All:
>>> How do you find a list of pages that you've liked on the fb moble site?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Personal to win Amazon and other free gift cards, Come join me on 
>>> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Stephanie Mitchell

How do I access vuescan?
Sorry, I know nothing about this.
I'm used to k1000.
Steph


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From: Anne Robertson Try scanning using Image Capture which is already on your Mac.  
That will create a file for ABBYY FineReader to open.


I use it this way for single pages, but for books, I use VueScan 
to scan the whole book into one file then the file is opened 
automatically by FineReader.


VueScan creates much clearer images than Image Capture, so the 
results are much better.


Cheers,

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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Donna Goodin
Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was asking 
about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to that question, 
and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of the iPhone released 
shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't have LTE here, it doesn't 
really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some of the new features, but I 
figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and then when we have LTE out here, 
I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the picture is really different for those of us 
who don't live in New York, California, etc.
Best,
Donna
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
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> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna, 
>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon wireless 
>> site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a major reason 
>> I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because I'll bet by the 
>> time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As my wife and I are 
>> both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price now.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data plan 
>>> for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be available for 
>>> $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah:
 Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
 have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's paws 
 on the iPhone.:)
 I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship any 
 time soon.:)
 Carolyn H
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's prices 
> and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math right at&t will 
> be a bit cheaper in the end.
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> 
>> Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky at 
>> times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
>> 
>> Aloha, 
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com 
>> click the off the bookshelf link 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:45 PM, "Carolyn"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Charlie, or rather, aloha:
>>> Yes, I realize after I asked what is "chaper that I wrote "chapter" So, 
>>> I had no room to grumble.:)
>>> In any case, it reminds me that we could most of us spend a little time 
>>> proofing before hitting send.:)
>>> 
>>> Carolyn H
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Charlie Doremus
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans 
>>> starting at $39.99
>>> 
>>> Me thinks the word could be cheaper. Proofreading is a lost skill.
>>> 
>>> Aloha, 
>>> 
>>> Charlie
>>> 
>>> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com 
>>> click the off the bookshelf link 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Carolyn Haas  wrote:
>>> 
 What is chapter?  
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Looks like at&t will be chaper in the end why? read on:
> 
> http://dlvr.it/F8cdn
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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Donna,

Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at all in 
my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And if it did, 
what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, Lets say you 
buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it happens to have 
LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  Cool.  Your not 
missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in September?  Or October?  
You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon would really start rolling out 
LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, 
there is a lot of if and buts in there. lol.  I was just referring to people 
who would not have bought an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash 
just to have unlimited data.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was asking 
> about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to that 
> question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of the iPhone 
> released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't have LTE here, it 
> doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some of the new features, 
> but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and then when we have LTE 
> out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the picture is really different for 
> those of us who don't live in New York, California, etc.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
>> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
>> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna, 
>>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon wireless 
>>> site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a major reason 
>>> I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because I'll bet by the 
>>> time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As my wife and I are 
>>> both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price now.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
 plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be available 
 for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
 Donna
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
> Hi Sarah:
> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
> have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's 
> paws on the iPhone.:)
> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship any 
> time soon.:)
> Carolyn H
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's prices 
>> and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math right at&t will 
>> be a bit cheaper in the end.
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> 
>>> Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky at 
>>> times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
>>> 
>>> Aloha, 
>>> 
>>> Charlie
>>> 
>>> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com 
>>> click the off the bookshelf link 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:45 PM, "Carolyn"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Charlie, or rather, aloha:
 Yes, I realize after I asked what is "chaper that I wrote "chapter" 
 So, I had no room to grumble.:)
 In any case, it reminds me that we could most of us spend a little 
 time proofing before hitting send.:)
 
 Carolyn H
 - Original Message -
 From: Charlie Doremus
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:20 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans 
 starting at $39.99
 
 Me thinks the word could be cheaper. Proofreading is a lost skill.
 
 Aloha, 
 
 Charlie
 
 Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com 
 click the off the bookshelf link 
 
 
 
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Carolyn Haas  wrote:
 
> What is chapter?  
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Looks like at&t will be chaper in the end why? read on:
>> 
>> http://dlvr.it/F8cdn
>> 

Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Colin M
Hi Stephanie!
Vuescan is another software you'll have to download!
If you haven't already!
Sorry I do not know if you have to pay for it or it is free!
If you have to pay for it there might be a free trial!
hth Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 28 Jan 2011, at 12:30, Stephanie Mitchell wrote:

> How do I access vuescan?
> Sorry, I know nothing about this.
> I'm used to k1000.
> Steph
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Anne Robertson  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:54:08 +0100
> Subject: Re: scanning
> 
> Hello Steph,
> 
> Try scanning using Image Capture which is already on your Mac.  That will 
> create a file for ABBYY FineReader to open.
> 
> I use it this way for single pages, but for books, I use VueScan to scan the 
> whole book into one file then the file is opened automatically by FineReader.
> 
> VueScan creates much clearer images than Image Capture, so the results are 
> much better.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Ricardo,

>From all the stuff I have read, I do not believe the iPhone 5 will have LTE 
>capabilities. I have read that it may have the ability to be used on both GSM 
>and CDMA carriers. It will be interesting to see how all this develops, but 
>even if LTE is possible, seems carriers are going to charge quite a bit for 
>the access. I believe VZW is charging $80 for 5Gb per month.
Scott





On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at all 
> in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And if it 
> did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, Lets 
> say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon would 
> really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was a LTE 
> handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. lol.  I was 
> just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 on verizon now 
> plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was asking 
>> about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to that 
>> question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of the 
>> iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't have LTE 
>> here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some of the new 
>> features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and then when we 
>> have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the picture is really 
>> different for those of us who don't live in New York, California, etc.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
>>> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
>>> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna, 
 I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon wireless 
 site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a major reason 
 I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because I'll bet by the 
 time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As my wife and I are 
 both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price now.
 
 Les
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
> plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be available 
> for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
> Donna
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah:
>> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
>> have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's 
>> paws on the iPhone.:)
>> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship any 
>> time soon.:)
>> Carolyn H
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's prices 
>>> and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math right at&t 
>>> will be a bit cheaper in the end.
>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>>> 
 Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky at 
 times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
 
 Aloha, 
 
 Charlie
 
 Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com 
 click the off the bookshelf link 
 
 
 
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:45 PM, "Carolyn"  wrote:
 
> Hi Charlie, or rather, aloha:
> Yes, I realize after I asked what is "chaper that I wrote "chapter" 
> So, I had no room to grumble.:)
> In any case, it reminds me that we could most of us spend a little 
> time proofing before hitting send.:)
> 
> Carolyn H
> - Original Message -
> From: Charlie Doremus
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans 
> starting at $39.99
> 
> Me

Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Donna Goodin
I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to the 
iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure that the 
iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I think people 
will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and then make a decision 
as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  Personally, I may well hang 
on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does come out.
Donna
On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at all 
> in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And if it 
> did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, Lets 
> say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon would 
> really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was a LTE 
> handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. lol.  I was 
> just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 on verizon now 
> plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was asking 
>> about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to that 
>> question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of the 
>> iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't have LTE 
>> here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some of the new 
>> features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and then when we 
>> have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the picture is really 
>> different for those of us who don't live in New York, California, etc.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
>>> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
>>> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna, 
 I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon wireless 
 site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a major reason 
 I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because I'll bet by the 
 time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As my wife and I are 
 both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price now.
 
 Les
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
> plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be available 
> for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
> Donna
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah:
>> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
>> have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's 
>> paws on the iPhone.:)
>> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship any 
>> time soon.:)
>> Carolyn H
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's prices 
>>> and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math right at&t 
>>> will be a bit cheaper in the end.
>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>>> 
 Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky at 
 times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
 
 Aloha, 
 
 Charlie
 
 Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com 
 click the off the bookshelf link 
 
 
 
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:45 PM, "Carolyn"  wrote:
 
> Hi Charlie, or rather, aloha:
> Yes, I realize after I asked what is "chaper that I wrote "chapter" 
> So, I had no room to grumble.:)
> In any case, it reminds me that we could most of us spend a little 
> time proofing before hitting send.:)
> 
> Carolyn H
> - Original Message -
> From: Charlie Doremus
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice pl

Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Stephanie Mitchell

Where would i download it from?
Steph


- Original Message -
From: Colin M Try scanning using Image Capture which is already on your Mac.  
That will create a file for ABBYY FineReader to open.


I use it this way for single pages, but for books, I use VueScan 
to scan the whole book into one file then the file is opened 
automatically by FineReader.


VueScan creates much clearer images than Image Capture, so the 
results are much better.


Cheers,

Anne

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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread erik burggraaf
In fact, although this has been a concern for about two years now,  none of the 
people who have gotten this to work have ever posted a model of scanner that 
actually does work seemlessly.  No, I think one was posted but it was a 
business model in the $700 price range.  Any other time you look deeper into 
this you invariably find out that the user needs to jump through some kind of 
hoop to get scanning action.

It's cool if it works for you, but I find it very sketchy myself.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-01-28, at 1:44 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Geoff,
> Your experience with the hang ups with abbyy FR express mirrors my sighted 
> husband's when he tried this app at school on the macbook the school provides 
> and a scanner which works fine on the Windows side with Omnipage and is, so 
> far as he can tell, twain compliant. He gave up on Abbyy entirely after 
> messing around with it for a while and not being able to get any scanning 
> action at all. the whole process sounds entirely like way too much hassle to 
> me, although I know there are people on this list who use abbyy and say it 
> works great for them. For me, it is a matter of my time and less stress being 
> worth a lot. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Right,

Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very sensible 
to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I just urge 
people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with hardware if they 
can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, productivity.  For example, 
the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, and a better camera, probably 
leads to better and faster results using an app like oMoby, and aid colors.  
Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way from the devices resources that 
sighted people don't need to compensate for.  In the case of the limited 
offering of the unlimited data plan from VZ, I think people should think long 
and hard about this.  Do you have reliable wifi access at home, work, school, 
or other places you spend a lot of time?  Does your usage now, 
comes
 anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
might not even need an unlimited data plan.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to the 
> iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure that the 
> iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I think people 
> will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and then make a 
> decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  Personally, I may 
> well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does come out.
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at all 
>> in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And if it 
>> did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, Lets 
>> say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
>> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
>> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
>> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon 
>> would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was 
>> a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. lol. 
>>  I was just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 on 
>> verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was asking 
>>> about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to that 
>>> question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of the 
>>> iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't have LTE 
>>> here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some of the new 
>>> features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and then when 
>>> we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the picture is really 
>>> different for those of us who don't live in New York, California, etc.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
 found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
 obsolete, hardware.  lol.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
> Hi Donna, 
> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon wireless 
> site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a major 
> reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because I'll bet 
> by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As my wife 
> and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price now.
> 
> Les
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
>> plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be 
>> available for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
>> Donna
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah:
>>> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
>>> have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's 
>>> paws on the iPhone.:)
>>> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship any 
>>> time soon.:)
>>> Carolyn H
>>> On Jan 2

Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Colin M
Hi Stephanie!
I just put vuescan into google and it was the first result!
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 28 Jan 2011, at 13:35, Stephanie Mitchell wrote:

> Where would i download it from?
> Steph
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Colin M  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:05:40 +
> Subject: Re: scanning
> 
> Hi Stephanie!
> Vuescan is another software you'll have to download!
> If you haven't already!
> Sorry I do not know if you have to pay for it or it is free!
> If you have to pay for it there might be a free trial!
> hth Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 28 Jan 2011, at 12:30, Stephanie Mitchell wrote:
> 
> How do I access vuescan?
> Sorry, I know nothing about this.
> I'm used to k1000.
> Steph
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Anne Robertson  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:54:08 +0100
> Subject: Re: scanning
> 
> Hello Steph,
> 
> Try scanning using Image Capture which is already on your Mac.  That will 
> create a file for ABBYY FineReader to open.
> 
> I use it this way for single pages, but for books, I use VueScan to scan the 
> whole book into one file then the file is opened automatically by FineReader.
> 
> VueScan creates much clearer images than Image Capture, so the results are 
> much better.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Steph,

There are two versions of VueScan 9 for Mac, a 32-bit and a 64-bit version. If 
your scanner is fairly new, you should get the 64-bit version.

VueScan costs $39.99 US for a year's support or $79.99 for a lifetime. The 
trial version leaves a watermark on the scans.

Cheers,

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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Erik,

I can get ABBYY FineReader to recognise my Canon Lide 700F portable USB 
scanner, but it's a bit fiddly. I find it much easier and more effective to use 
VueScan to do the scanning and FineReader to do the OCR.

VueScan produces beautiful images and FineReader does an almost perfect job 
with OCR.

I set VueScan to produce TIFF files and set TIFF files to always open with 
ABBYY FineReader.

In this way, I launch VueScan, scan as many pages as I need, then FineReader is 
launched automatically. I've set a shortcut for "Convert to Text Document", so 
all I then have to do is enter the file name and where to put it.

It all sounds much more complicated than it really is.

I've demonstrated this scanning procedure to very sceptical Windows users and 
they were impressed by its quality and efficiency.

I'll send you my user guide off list so you can see for yourself.

cheers,
Anne

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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Geoff Waaler
Greetings Ann and others,

Okay, so I gather the reason to get both VUEScan and FineReader is that the 
former will run the scanner and the latter provides a much better OCR result.  
Does finereader resolve the orientation?  There are eight ways to put a page on 
the scanner and only one is correct.  One would not need to run through all 
four iterations for the blank side, but for many items which are not always 
printed lengthwise, it could take as many as four scans to get it right.  Mean 
time, when the orientation is not correct, it takes much longer to recognize, 
and you end up with a garbage result.

So I will probably download VUEScan and see for myself but thought I'd ask 
here, because if ABBYY cannot determine orientation, I will stick with K1000 
for the foreseeable future.

Best regards.
Geoff
all four 
On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Erik,
> 
> I can get ABBYY FineReader to recognise my Canon Lide 700F portable USB 
> scanner, but it's a bit fiddly. I find it much easier and more effective to 
> use VueScan to do the scanning and FineReader to do the OCR.
> 
> VueScan produces beautiful images and FineReader does an almost perfect job 
> with OCR.
> 
> I set VueScan to produce TIFF files and set TIFF files to always open with 
> ABBYY FineReader.
> 
> In this way, I launch VueScan, scan as many pages as I need, then FineReader 
> is launched automatically. I've set a shortcut for "Convert to Text 
> Document", so all I then have to do is enter the file name and where to put 
> it.
> 
> It all sounds much more complicated than it really is.
> 
> I've demonstrated this scanning procedure to very sceptical Windows users and 
> they were impressed by its quality and efficiency.
> 
> I'll send you my user guide off list so you can see for yourself.
> 
> cheers,
> Anne
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adium doesn't conect to msn but displays 2 buddie arrors??

2011-01-28 Thread trahern culver
hey all my problem is this adium  does conect to msn when i looked in
the accounts prefrences it said retreaving buddy list it also show 2
buddy ad error messages i'm running adium 3.8 does any one know how to
solve this problem??

your help with this problem would be most welcom

kind regards trahern.

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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Geoff,

ABBYY FineReader detects orientation. It also gets pages in the right order 
when you scan a double-page at a time which is what I do when scanning books.

VueScan doesn't detect orientation but it will do OCR, though not very well.

Cheers,

Anne

On 28 Jan 2011, at 18:45, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings Ann and others,
> 
> Okay, so I gather the reason to get both VUEScan and FineReader is that the 
> former will run the scanner and the latter provides a much better OCR result. 
>  Does finereader resolve the orientation?  There are eight ways to put a page 
> on the scanner and only one is correct.  One would not need to run through 
> all four iterations for the blank side, but for many items which are not 
> always printed lengthwise, it could take as many as four scans to get it 
> right.  Mean time, when the orientation is not correct, it takes much longer 
> to recognize, and you end up with a garbage result.
> 
> So I will probably download VUEScan and see for myself but thought I'd ask 
> here, because if ABBYY cannot determine orientation, I will stick with K1000 
> for the foreseeable future.
> 
> Best regards.

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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Kaare Dehard
Hi, just to add to your contribution, eyepal, anyone tried the mac version, and 
with what resault? I'm in a hurry to get a solution, and am not sure I'm fond 
of buying two programs, also, which scanners work best these days. As I 
understand things things do shift from time to time depending on product 
availability.
On 2011-01-28, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings Ann and others,
> 
> Okay, so I gather the reason to get both VUEScan and FineReader is that the 
> former will run the scanner and the latter provides a much better OCR result. 
>  Does finereader resolve the orientation?  There are eight ways to put a page 
> on the scanner and only one is correct.  One would not need to run through 
> all four iterations for the blank side, but for many items which are not 
> always printed lengthwise, it could take as many as four scans to get it 
> right.  Mean time, when the orientation is not correct, it takes much longer 
> to recognize, and you end up with a garbage result.
> 
> So I will probably download VUEScan and see for myself but thought I'd ask 
> here, because if ABBYY cannot determine orientation, I will stick with K1000 
> for the foreseeable future.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> all four 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Erik,
>> 
>> I can get ABBYY FineReader to recognise my Canon Lide 700F portable USB 
>> scanner, but it's a bit fiddly. I find it much easier and more effective to 
>> use VueScan to do the scanning and FineReader to do the OCR.
>> 
>> VueScan produces beautiful images and FineReader does an almost perfect job 
>> with OCR.
>> 
>> I set VueScan to produce TIFF files and set TIFF files to always open with 
>> ABBYY FineReader.
>> 
>> In this way, I launch VueScan, scan as many pages as I need, then FineReader 
>> is launched automatically. I've set a shortcut for "Convert to Text 
>> Document", so all I then have to do is enter the file name and where to put 
>> it.
>> 
>> It all sounds much more complicated than it really is.
>> 
>> I've demonstrated this scanning procedure to very sceptical Windows users 
>> and they were impressed by its quality and efficiency.
>> 
>> I'll send you my user guide off list so you can see for yourself.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Anne
>> 
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Re: MoveAddict still vaporware.

2011-01-28 Thread Randy Stegall
Glad you have it working!

Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Thanks Randy, Esther, and Chuck,
> 
> I now have it working, though after what amounted to three installs I could 
> have sure done a lot of copying and deleting and saved the five bucks :) 
> 
> I initially attempted to follow Esther's instructions, but cut had no affect. 
>  I then hid MoveAddict from both the doc and status menu.  This apparently 
> caused a warning to display which precluded going into the dialog.  I tried 
> rebooting, to no avail.
> 
> I then tried the suggestion I received from the support group, which was to 
> launch the terminal app and enter:
> "defaults delete com.kapeli.moveaddict".  This time it appeared to be 
> successful (without any additional parms) since it was necessary to reenter 
> my registration.
> 
> I then took the following steps over both "unknown" fields:
> 1. Interact:
> 2. Even though Mouse is configured to follow VO I pressed vo-command-f5 for 
> good measure.
> 3. Confirmed that the mouse was in the field (vo-f5).
> 4. Press the desired shortcut key (i.g. command-x for cut).
> 5. Stop interacting.
> 
> As Chuck observed, the fields still show "unknown", but I am now able to 
> cut/paste.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> What moveAddict tech  support told me is that the standard mac key commands 
>> for cut and paste are actually in the  invisible part of the preferences.
>> "Keyboard shortcuts window;
>> 
>>> Cut keyboard shortcut unknown
>>> paste keyboard shortcut unknown"
>> when I asked how I enter a key command for cut and paste they said that the 
>> default is the standard mac commands! They could at least make these visible 
>> using VoiceOver!
>> 
>> Talk soon
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I 
>>> decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24.  
>>> To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences 
>>> file "com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist" from directory "/Library/Preferences/
>>> 
>>> This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to 
>>> navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message "one file 
>>> cut", however, it still does not function.
>>> 
>>> I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile:
>>> 
>>> General:
>>> Startup
>>> Start at login is checked
>>> Show in doc not checked
>>> Show in menu bar checked.
>>> Keyboard shortcuts:
>>> Cut keyboard shortcut unknown
>>> paste keyboard shortcut unknown
>>> 
>>> I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the 
>>> defaults as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem.
>>> 
>>> The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut 
>>> keys.  I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits 
>>> the "character deleted" sound and the field is unchanged.  I tried 
>>> interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail.
>>> 
>>> In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the 
>>> option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another 
>>> via command-x and command-v but this had no affect.  Since I apparently can 
>>> not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any 
>>> suggestions.
>>> 
>>> TIA and best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> 
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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ouch! Wo! that's a bit steap in my opinion!

S
On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> From all the stuff I have read, I do not believe the iPhone 5 will have LTE 
> capabilities. I have read that it may have the ability to be used on both GSM 
> and CDMA carriers. It will be interesting to see how all this develops, but 
> even if LTE is possible, seems carriers are going to charge quite a bit for 
> the access. I believe VZW is charging $80 for 5Gb per month.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at all 
>> in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And if it 
>> did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, Lets 
>> say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
>> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
>> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
>> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon 
>> would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was 
>> a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. lol. 
>>  I was just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 on 
>> verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was asking 
>>> about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to that 
>>> question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of the 
>>> iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't have LTE 
>>> here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some of the new 
>>> features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and then when 
>>> we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the picture is really 
>>> different for those of us who don't live in New York, California, etc.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
 found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
 obsolete, hardware.  lol.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
> Hi Donna, 
> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon wireless 
> site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a major 
> reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because I'll bet 
> by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As my wife 
> and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price now.
> 
> Les
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
>> plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be 
>> available for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
>> Donna
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah:
>>> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
>>> have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's 
>>> paws on the iPhone.:)
>>> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship any 
>>> time soon.:)
>>> Carolyn H
>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's 
 prices and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math right 
 at&t will be a bit cheaper in the end.
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
 
> Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky at 
> times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
> 
> Aloha, 
> 
> Charlie
> 
> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at 
> www.giantdolphin.com click the off the bookshelf link 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:45 PM, "Carolyn"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Charlie, or rather, aloha:
>> Yes, I realize after I asked what is "chaper that I wrote "chapter" 
>> So, I had no room to grumble.:)
>> In any case, it reminds me that we could most of us spend a little 
>> time proofing before hitting send.:)
>> 
>> Carolyn H
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Charlie Doremus
>>>

Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
lol. I can easily pull 3. Since I"m on an unstable connection at home and 
nothing at school I have to remain on 3g so that means skype and more on there 
which is fine.

S
On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Right,
> 
> Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
> either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very 
> sensible to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I 
> just urge people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with 
> hardware if they can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, 
> productivity.  For example, the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, 
> and a better camera, probably leads to better and faster results using an app 
> like oMoby, and aid colors.  Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way from 
> the devices resources that sighted people don't need to compensate for.  In 
> the case of the limited offering of the unlimited data plan from VZ, I think 
> people should think long and hard about this.  Do you have reliable wifi 
> access at home, work, school, or other places you spend a lot of time?  Does 
> your usage now, 
> comes
> anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
> might not even need an unlimited data plan.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to the 
>> iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure that the 
>> iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I think people 
>> will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and then make a 
>> decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  Personally, I may 
>> well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does come out.
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
>>> all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
>>> if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, 
>>> Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
>>> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
>>> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
>>> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon 
>>> would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was 
>>> a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. 
>>> lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 
>>> on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
 asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
 that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
 the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
 have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
 of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and 
 then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
 picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
 California, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna, 
>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon 
>> wireless site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a 
>> major reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because 
>> I'll bet by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As 
>> my wife and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price 
>> now.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
>>> plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be 
>>> available for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Caro

Re: Drag&Drop across windows

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
I want to move a file in a folder to an app that has a table, Ok it is the 
system prefs. I need ot move an app that's in an app to the system prefs log in 
option. It's a helper app.

S
On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:34 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Sarah,
> 
> On 28 Jan 2011, at 07:40, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> but how do you let's say drag from a folder to a table where the file is 
>> suposed to be?
> 
> What situation are you talking about here? My instructions are on how to move 
> a file or files from one folder to another.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: Dropbox accessibility

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
What I do wiht th eprefs actually is this. I change my settings to have it not 
choose my best upload speed and go all out. lol! I can easily do this in 
windows but I would have to h have sighted help on the mac to do this. I've 
emailed the dev but so far no responce.

S
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Yes,
> 
> but accessible is a broad term.  For the most part, I happen to find dropbox 
> accessible.  Not for nothing, I rarely, no.  Never found myself  needing to 
> change any preferences after I installed. it.  Their isn't many options in 
> there to begin with.  But I can do what dropbox is pretty much meant to do.  
> Save files in the cloud and access them on all my devices that have an 
> internet connection.  Not saying I don't want the preference issue fixed of 
> course.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> In theory if the government were to use it it would have to be made 
>> accessible. 
>> 
>> On 28/01/2011, at 0:44, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not sticking up for Dropbox but perhaps there's not much they can do, 
>>> how is the software written for a start? It may not be written in a 
>>> programming language that's compatible with Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Yes of course it would be nice to see Dropbox more accessible, I use it 
>>> here and I use the paid version but 2 things to bare in mind.
>>> 
>>> Firstly, most people are using the feee version of Dropbox thus Dropbox 
>>> themselves are not making any money for the customer on their software so 
>>> they may feel given that the choice is clear to the user, if you don't like 
>>> what we offer then go somewhere else, you may like to try Sendspace for 
>>> example.
>>> 
>>> And finally, the developers of Dropbox are under no legal obligation 
>>> whatever to make their software accessible as far as I'm aware.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28/01/2011, at 5:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I have to agree here. I've written them several times and they just shrug 
 us off.. you can try though and keep trying but I'm so fed up with them 
 giving me the run around that I've quit trying.
 
 S
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:23 PM, louie wrote:
 
> Do what ever you want to do, it will not help.
> As I said they don't care.
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> So do you think it shouldn't be brought to their attention as much, and 
>> as by as many people regardless?  How else will they care?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:05 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> They don't care they don't half to.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hello mac users.
 Copied below is a message I just recently sent to Drop box about the 
 lack of accessibility within they're mac application.
 If you, like me, feel that the Dropbox app should be made accessible, 
 send them a message by opening your web item rotor and choosing the 
 feedback link from the links area.
 Thanks.
 
 Copied text to Dropbox
 
 Hello Dropbox team.
 I'd like to report a problem that I would class as a bug report my 
 self.
 This has to do with the lack of accessibility within the Dropbox for 
 mac application.
 When I launch the Dropbox app, I get no feedback from the built in 
 screen reading software on the mac.
 VoiceOver is the free screen reading solution built in to every mac 
 and Apple's developer documentation makes reference on how an 
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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread stephanie mitchell
okay so i might need 2 programmes. before i do that though, ho) d i
find my sca'nner and get it working? my scanner isn't even listed 9
abbyy.

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> Hi, just to add to your contribution, eyepal, anyone tried the mac version,
> and with what resault? I'm in a hurry to get a solution, and am not sure I'm
> fond of buying two programs, also, which scanners work best these days. As I
> understand things things do shift from time to time depending on product
> availability.
> On 2011-01-28, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>
>> Greetings Ann and others,
>>
>> Okay, so I gather the reason to get both VUEScan and FineReader is that
>> the former will run the scanner and the latter provides a much better OCR
>> result.  Does finereader resolve the orientation?  There are eight ways to
>> put a page on the scanner and only one is correct.  One would not need to
>> run through all four iterations for the blank side, but for many items
>> which are not always printed lengthwise, it could take as many as four
>> scans to get it right.  Mean time, when the orientation is not correct, it
>> takes much longer to recognize, and you end up with a garbage result.
>>
>> So I will probably download VUEScan and see for myself but thought I'd ask
>> here, because if ABBYY cannot determine orientation, I will stick with
>> K1000 for the foreseeable future.
>>
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
>> all four
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Erik,
>>>
>>> I can get ABBYY FineReader to recognise my Canon Lide 700F portable USB
>>> scanner, but it's a bit fiddly. I find it much easier and more effective
>>> to use VueScan to do the scanning and FineReader to do the OCR.
>>>
>>> VueScan produces beautiful images and FineReader does an almost perfect
>>> job with OCR.
>>>
>>> I set VueScan to produce TIFF files and set TIFF files to always open
>>> with ABBYY FineReader.
>>>
>>> In this way, I launch VueScan, scan as many pages as I need, then
>>> FineReader is launched automatically. I've set a shortcut for "Convert to
>>> Text Document", so all I then have to do is enter the file name and where
>>> to put it.
>>>
>>> It all sounds much more complicated than it really is.
>>>
>>> I've demonstrated this scanning procedure to very sceptical Windows users
>>> and they were impressed by its quality and efficiency.
>>>
>>> I'll send you my user guide off list so you can see for yourself.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Anne
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Re: finding pages on facebook

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
You're lucky! lol! Tha'ts all I can really say ont hat matter. lol!

S
On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:59 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi All!
> Ok maybe facebook have not implemented that in the UK yet!
> All I can say is I can still get to my pages from the friends link!
> So I'll put down what happens from when I log in!
> [ this is m.facebook ]
> On the home screen I go down to the friends link and vo+space on that!
> On the next screen I can scroll down to the pages link [ this is just after 
> phonebook link] and vo+space on pages!
> Then I am on the pages that I have liked! :]
> So if this does not happen to you then I predict I might be getting your 
> version soon!
> But not yet!
> All the best!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 28 Jan 2011, at 03:18, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Try again. I can asure you it i not anymore. you have to now search for a 
>> page you think you liked and look at it.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> 
>>> It use to be there.
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I can confirm this. the only thing there that starts with a p is profile. 
 the pages link is not there.
 
 S
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Colin M wrote:
 
> Hi Sara!
> On what are you looking at m.facebook on is it imac or one of the others!
> On mine it is how I said before!
> If your on a mbp or imac when your on the second page open the web rota 
> vo+u  and in the links column see if it brings up pages by typing paa, it 
> should be there!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 27 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Sara Waggle wrote:
> 
>> Hmm..I don't see it there.  
>> Any other suggestions?  
>> Sara
>> On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Colin M wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarai!
>>> When on your home page just select your friends link!
>>> And on the next page you should find a link for your pages it should 
>>> just be after phonebook!
>>> hth Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2011, at 17:08, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>>> 
 All:
 How do you find a list of pages that you've liked on the fb moble site?
 
 
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Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.

2011-01-28 Thread Geoff Waaler
>> Greetings y'all,
>> 
>> Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6.  
>> Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is 
>> from he day before I reinstalled.  I was kind of surprised that all my files 
>> were retained.  I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard drive 
>> and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the dialogs 
>> carefully, but I digress.
>> 
>> I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything 
>> applicable.  In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk 
>> utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled.  I looked in 
>> /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files named: 
>> "History.plist" and "HistoryIndex.sk".  I opened the plist file but couldn't 
>> tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to mess with them.  
>> I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist file was last 
>> updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index file's time stamp 
>> corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or Safari.
>> 
>> My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so 
>> far.  This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of 
>> knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer a 
>> suggestion.  If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt?  Is there 
>> a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard?
>> 
> Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department of 
> redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently  posted this to VIPhone a 
> while ago.
> 
> TIA and best regards.
>> 
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Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.

Teresa

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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
What are you talking about? What is steep in your opinion. Your message just 
does not seem to fit the context of this exchange.

Scott





On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Ouch! Wo! that's a bit steap in my opinion!
> 
> S
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Ricardo,
>> 
>> From all the stuff I have read, I do not believe the iPhone 5 will have LTE 
>> capabilities. I have read that it may have the ability to be used on both 
>> GSM and CDMA carriers. It will be interesting to see how all this develops, 
>> but even if LTE is possible, seems carriers are going to charge quite a bit 
>> for the access. I believe VZW is charging $80 for 5Gb per month.
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
>>> all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
>>> if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, 
>>> Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
>>> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
>>> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
>>> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon 
>>> would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was 
>>> a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. 
>>> lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 
>>> on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
 asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
 that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
 the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
 have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
 of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and 
 then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
 picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
 California, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna, 
>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon 
>> wireless site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a 
>> major reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because 
>> I'll bet by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As 
>> my wife and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price 
>> now.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
>>> plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be 
>>> available for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah:
 Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t would 
 have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon get it's 
 paws on the iPhone.:)
 I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship 
 any time soon.:)
 Carolyn H
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's 
> prices and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math right 
> at&t will be a bit cheaper in the end.
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> 
>> Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky at 
>> times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
>> 
>> Aloha, 
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at 
>> www.giantdolphin.com click the off the bookshelf link 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:45 PM, "Carolyn"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Charlie, or rather, aloha:
>>> Yes, I realize after I aske

Re: Installing a program on the Mac

2011-01-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Denise:
Think you should be able to simply copy andpaste it into Apps.  Then open it as 
you normaly would.  HTH
Carolyn H 
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:12 AM, denise avant wrote:

> Jeff 
> This is it right now the file is in my downloads folder howdy I get to the 
> application folder
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
> 
>> Some disk images, however do not include an install program.  In such cases, 
>> copy the file with an extention of .app to your applications folder.  You 
>> can then go into finder, press control-shift-c, locate the volume of the 
>> disk image and press command-e to eject it.  You can then delete the disk 
>> image file.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Normally, you simply open the installer program and follow the prompts.  Is 
>>> there something unique about the program you are attempting to install?
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2011-01-27, at 10:34 PM, denise avant wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all
 Can someone tell e how to install a program on the Mac
 
 
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hi,
Yep, I use it all the time and have been ever since I got my gMail account a 
few years ago.
HTH,
Jeffrey
On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
> copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
> 
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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Stephanie:
Let me simplify this for you:
If you look up vuescan, on Google it will come up with the website that 
discusses it's ups, downs and backwards and forwards.:)
It also tells which scanners are supported, and a lot of them are.  Download 
Vuescan as a trial, and install it.  When you open it, there are six tabs for 
selecting various settings.  You'll find the scanner under the input tab, I'd 
bet on it.:)
I'm still learning how to work with these.  But, I think Vuescan is far better 
at linking up with various scanners.  It worked with both my Canon and my hp, 
(with the hp taking a bit longer to do a scan.)
It might then be easier to determine whether in fact you need Abbyy for what 
you want to accomplish.
HTH
Carolyn H
On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:42 PM, stephanie mitchell wrote:

> okay so i might need 2 programmes. before i do that though, ho) d i
> find my sca'nner and get it working? my scanner isn't even listed 9
> abbyy.
> 
> On 1/29/11, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>> Hi, just to add to your contribution, eyepal, anyone tried the mac version,
>> and with what resault? I'm in a hurry to get a solution, and am not sure I'm
>> fond of buying two programs, also, which scanners work best these days. As I
>> understand things things do shift from time to time depending on product
>> availability.
>> On 2011-01-28, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings Ann and others,
>>> 
>>> Okay, so I gather the reason to get both VUEScan and FineReader is that
>>> the former will run the scanner and the latter provides a much better OCR
>>> result.  Does finereader resolve the orientation?  There are eight ways to
>>> put a page on the scanner and only one is correct.  One would not need to
>>> run through all four iterations for the blank side, but for many items
>>> which are not always printed lengthwise, it could take as many as four
>>> scans to get it right.  Mean time, when the orientation is not correct, it
>>> takes much longer to recognize, and you end up with a garbage result.
>>> 
>>> So I will probably download VUEScan and see for myself but thought I'd ask
>>> here, because if ABBYY cannot determine orientation, I will stick with
>>> K1000 for the foreseeable future.
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> all four
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Erik,
 
 I can get ABBYY FineReader to recognise my Canon Lide 700F portable USB
 scanner, but it's a bit fiddly. I find it much easier and more effective
 to use VueScan to do the scanning and FineReader to do the OCR.
 
 VueScan produces beautiful images and FineReader does an almost perfect
 job with OCR.
 
 I set VueScan to produce TIFF files and set TIFF files to always open
 with ABBYY FineReader.
 
 In this way, I launch VueScan, scan as many pages as I need, then
 FineReader is launched automatically. I've set a shortcut for "Convert to
 Text Document", so all I then have to do is enter the file name and where
 to put it.
 
 It all sounds much more complicated than it really is.
 
 I've demonstrated this scanning procedure to very sceptical Windows users
 and they were impressed by its quality and efficiency.
 
 I'll send you my user guide off list so you can see for yourself.
 
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Teresa,

Using IMAP  and filtering list messages into a "label" I receive all posts 
(including my own)  I assume POP would be applicable at least in terms of  the 
web interface -- since you're not synchronizing labels (aka folders) with your 
iPhone and/or other computers, however I'm not sure if this will cause them to 
appear in your in-box or respect what ever filter you defined locally.

Geoff

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> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
> copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
> 
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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Wes Smith
Scott, I think she was talking about the price being a little much ($85.00), 
and I agree with her.  Way to much.
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> What are you talking about? What is steep in your opinion. Your message just 
> does not seem to fit the context of this exchange.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Ouch! Wo! that's a bit steap in my opinion!
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> From all the stuff I have read, I do not believe the iPhone 5 will have LTE 
>>> capabilities. I have read that it may have the ability to be used on both 
>>> GSM and CDMA carriers. It will be interesting to see how all this develops, 
>>> but even if LTE is possible, seems carriers are going to charge quite a bit 
>>> for the access. I believe VZW is charging $80 for 5Gb per month.
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
 all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
 if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For 
 example, Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in 
 June, and it happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in 
 your area.  Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has 
 LTE in September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  
 Verizon would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the 
 iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts 
 in there. lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have bought 
 an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited 
 data.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
> asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
> that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
> the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
> have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
> of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, 
> and then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
> picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
> California, etc.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
>> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
>> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna, 
>>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon 
>>> wireless site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a 
>>> major reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because 
>>> I'll bet by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As 
>>> my wife and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price 
>>> now.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited data 
 plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be 
 available for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
 Donna
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
> Hi Sarah:
> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t 
> would have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon 
> get it's paws on the iPhone.:)
> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship 
> any time soon.:)
> Carolyn H
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's 
>> prices and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math 
>> right at&t will be a bit cheaper in the end.
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> 
>>> Aloha yourself. We all make errors. My partners says I'm to picky 
>>> at times. Guess the writer in me is my downfall. 
>>> 
>>> Aloha, 
>>> 
>>> Charlie
>>> 
>>> Our 

Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Ricardo,

Good points.  The only thing I'd say about opting for unlimited data, is that 
it's hard to predict what your data usage will be in the future.  I never 
thought I would be a data hog, but lately I've been really into downloading 
movies and tv shows on my phone, so my data usage has gone up quite a bit.  If 
you have unlimited data you don't have to worry about changes/increases in your 
data use.  I guess in this respect I'm like Scott, I think unlimited anything 
rocks! lol
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Right,
> 
> Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
> either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very 
> sensible to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I 
> just urge people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with 
> hardware if they can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, 
> productivity.  For example, the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, 
> and a better camera, probably leads to better and faster results using an app 
> like oMoby, and aid colors.  Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way from 
> the devices resources that sighted people don't need to compensate for.  In 
> the case of the limited offering of the unlimited data plan from VZ, I think 
> people should think long and hard about this.  Do you have reliable wifi 
> access at home, work, school, or other places you spend a lot of time?  Does 
> your usage now, 
> comes
> anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
> might not even need an unlimited data plan.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to the 
>> iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure that the 
>> iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I think people 
>> will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and then make a 
>> decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  Personally, I may 
>> well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does come out.
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
>>> all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
>>> if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For example, 
>>> Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in June, and it 
>>> happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in your area.  
>>> Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has LTE in 
>>> September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  Verizon 
>>> would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the iPhone 5 was 
>>> a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts in there. 
>>> lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have bought an iPhone 4 
>>> on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited data.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
 asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
 that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
 the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
 have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
 of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, and 
 then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
 picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
 California, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna, 
>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon 
>> wireless site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a 
>> major reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because 
>> I'll bet by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  As 
>> my wife and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that price 
>> now.
>> 
>> Les

Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Jane
I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except for 
one.

Jane


On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
> copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
> 
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Colin M
Hi Teresa!
Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
address book!
Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send you 
will get a copy!
If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:

> I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except for 
> one.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
>> copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
>> 
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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami

On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

>>> I believe VZW is charging $80 for 5Gb per month.
>> 
for LTE access? Yeah that really is steep and only for 5 gigs? I'm surprised 
you didn't see the post I had referred too bellow my message but maybe it was 
my  stupid computer. lol!

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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yeah and now that at&t is quietly offering there unlimited back to some of its 
costumers? I gues it pays to complain nicely. lol!
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hey Ricardo,
> 
> Good points.  The only thing I'd say about opting for unlimited data, is that 
> it's hard to predict what your data usage will be in the future.  I never 
> thought I would be a data hog, but lately I've been really into downloading 
> movies and tv shows on my phone, so my data usage has gone up quite a bit.  
> If you have unlimited data you don't have to worry about changes/increases in 
> your data use.  I guess in this respect I'm like Scott, I think unlimited 
> anything rocks! lol
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Right,
>> 
>> Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
>> either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very 
>> sensible to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I 
>> just urge people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with 
>> hardware if they can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, 
>> productivity.  For example, the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, 
>> and a better camera, probably leads to better and faster results using an 
>> app like oMoby, and aid colors.  Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way 
>> from the devices resources that sighted people don't need to compensate for. 
>>  In the case of the limited offering of the unlimited data plan from VZ, I 
>> think people should think long and hard about this.  Do you have reliable 
>> wifi access at home, work, school, or other places you spend a lot of time?  
>> Does your usage now, 
>> comes
>> anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
>> might not even need an unlimited data plan.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to the 
>>> iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure that the 
>>> iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I think 
>>> people will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and then make 
>>> a decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  Personally, I 
>>> may well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does come out.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
 all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
 if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For 
 example, Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in 
 June, and it happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in 
 your area.  Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has 
 LTE in September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  
 Verizon would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the 
 iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts 
 in there. lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have bought 
 an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited 
 data.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
> asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
> that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
> the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
> have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
> of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, 
> and then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
> picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
> California, etc.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
>> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
>> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna, 
>>> I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon 
>>> wireless site, and noted the limited ti

Re: Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.

2011-01-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello. Next time go to disk utility when you run from disk. You should see an 
arace tab after you choose the disk you are goign to format. Follow those 
prompts and you should be good to go.

S
On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

>>> Greetings y'all,
>>> 
>>> Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6.  
>>> Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is 
>>> from he day before I reinstalled.  I was kind of surprised that all my 
>>> files were retained.  I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard 
>>> drive and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the 
>>> dialogs carefully, but I digress.
>>> 
>>> I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything 
>>> applicable.  In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk 
>>> utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled.  I looked in 
>>> /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files named: 
>>> "History.plist" and "HistoryIndex.sk".  I opened the plist file but 
>>> couldn't tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to mess 
>>> with them.  I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist file 
>>> was last updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index file's 
>>> time stamp corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or Safari.
>>> 
>>> My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so 
>>> far.  This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of 
>>> knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer a 
>>> suggestion.  If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt?  Is there 
>>> a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard?
>>> 
>> Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department 
>> of redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently  posted this to VIPhone 
>> a while ago.
>> 
>> TIA and best regards.
>>> 
>>> Geoff
>> 
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Test message

2011-01-28 Thread Jes Smith
IF someone gets this test message, please reply and let me know. Thanks.
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Re: Test message

2011-01-28 Thread Zachary Kline
I got it.
On Jan 27, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jes Smith wrote:

> IF someone gets this test message, please reply and let me know. Thanks.
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ftpmount on the mac

2011-01-28 Thread William Windels
Hello all,

I am using the program filer on my iphone4 as file manager.
This program has a ftp and http server built in so that I can easily transfer 
files/folders from my mac to my iphone.

I would like to mount my iphone with the ftp-protocol so that it becomes as new 
area in my finder window.

I tried the following:
command+k (from inside the finder) and then I type!d the ftp-address and 
corresponding port as described in the filer program.
When I do this, a new ares appears in my finder but it seems to be read-only.

After som search on the internet , I fund something about macfuse and the 
corresponding program macfusion.

After installing this, it seems not to work.
The time to try the connection is set to 60 seconds so, that should be enough, 
I think.
After a while , I receive a timeout.

I could also use a ft-program like syberduck but, this seems much more 
complicated to transfer files from my macbook to my iphone.

 So, I am looking after a (free) program to make a ftpmount with also 
write-options to connect to the ftp-server in filer on my iphone.

Any hints for accessible programs to do this is very welcome.

Thanx alot for your! help.

Kind regards,
William  

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Re: Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.

2011-01-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Geoff:
You might check menus, Safari.  If "private browsing" is checked, your surfing 
history will not be saved.

HTH
CH
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

>>> Greetings y'all,
>>> 
>>> Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6.  
>>> Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is 
>>> from he day before I reinstalled.  I was kind of surprised that all my 
>>> files were retained.  I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard 
>>> drive and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the 
>>> dialogs carefully, but I digress.
>>> 
>>> I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything 
>>> applicable.  In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk 
>>> utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled.  I looked in 
>>> /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files named: 
>>> "History.plist" and "HistoryIndex.sk".  I opened the plist file but 
>>> couldn't tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to mess 
>>> with them.  I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist file 
>>> was last updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index file's 
>>> time stamp corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or Safari.
>>> 
>>> My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so 
>>> far.  This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of 
>>> knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer a 
>>> suggestion.  If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt?  Is there 
>>> a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard?
>>> 
>> Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department 
>> of redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently  posted this to VIPhone 
>> a while ago.
>> 
>> TIA and best regards.
>>> 
>>> Geoff
>> 
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Re: [Bulk] Test message

2011-01-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
got it.


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I use imap and get copies of my messages to the list.

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On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

> Hi,
> Yep, I use it all the time and have been ever since I got my gMail account a 
> few years ago.
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
>> copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
>> 
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Re: Test message

2011-01-28 Thread Charlie Doremus
Got it

Aloha, 

Charlie

Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click 
the off the bookshelf link 



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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
That is an excellent point Donna,

This constant tech gamble is starting to become mind numbing.  lol.  Buying a 
phone has turned into buying a house but on a smaller scale.  sigh.  You must 
predict the market months in advance to try to make a good short term and long 
term decision.

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On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hey Ricardo,
> 
> Good points.  The only thing I'd say about opting for unlimited data, is that 
> it's hard to predict what your data usage will be in the future.  I never 
> thought I would be a data hog, but lately I've been really into downloading 
> movies and tv shows on my phone, so my data usage has gone up quite a bit.  
> If you have unlimited data you don't have to worry about changes/increases in 
> your data use.  I guess in this respect I'm like Scott, I think unlimited 
> anything rocks! lol
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Right,
>> 
>> Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
>> either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very 
>> sensible to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I 
>> just urge people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with 
>> hardware if they can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, 
>> productivity.  For example, the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, 
>> and a better camera, probably leads to better and faster results using an 
>> app like oMoby, and aid colors.  Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way 
>> from the devices resources that sighted people don't need to compensate for. 
>>  In the case of the limited offering of the unlimited data plan from VZ, I 
>> think people should think long and hard about this.  Do you have reliable 
>> wifi access at home, work, school, or other places you spend a lot of time?  
>> Does your usage now, 
>> comes
>> anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
>> might not even need an unlimited data plan.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
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>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to the 
>>> iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure that the 
>>> iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I think 
>>> people will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and then make 
>>> a decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  Personally, I 
>>> may well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does come out.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
 all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
 if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For 
 example, Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in 
 June, and it happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in 
 your area.  Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has 
 LTE in September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  
 Verizon would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the 
 iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and buts 
 in there. lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have bought 
 an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have unlimited 
 data.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
> asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
> that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
> the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
> have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
> of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, 
> and then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
> picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
> California, etc.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They have 
>> found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon to be 
>> obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>> 
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>>

Re: Test message

2011-01-28 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:

Test message received.


Regards
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
You may be right, it was not obvious from her note, but true, $85 is expensive 
for 5Gb at any speed, of course in my opinion.
Scott





On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

> Scott, I think she was talking about the price being a little much ($85.00), 
> and I agree with her.  Way to much.
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> What are you talking about? What is steep in your opinion. Your message just 
>> does not seem to fit the context of this exchange.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Ouch! Wo! that's a bit steap in my opinion!
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 Ricardo,
 
 From all the stuff I have read, I do not believe the iPhone 5 will have 
 LTE capabilities. I have read that it may have the ability to be used on 
 both GSM and CDMA carriers. It will be interesting to see how all this 
 develops, but even if LTE is possible, seems carriers are going to charge 
 quite a bit for the access. I believe VZW is charging $80 for 5Gb per 
 month.
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
> all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
> if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For 
> example, Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in 
> June, and it happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in 
> your area.  Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has 
> LTE in September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  
> Verizon would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the 
> iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and 
> buts in there. lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have 
> bought an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have 
> unlimited data.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
>> asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
>> that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
>> the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
>> have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
>> of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, 
>> and then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
>> picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
>> California, etc.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They 
>>> have found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon 
>>> to be obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna, 
 I spoke with a rep at Verizon today and also checked the Verizon 
 wireless site, and noted the limited time $29.99 data plan.  This is a 
 major reason I'm gong for the iPhone now rather than waiting, because 
 I'll bet by the time iPhone 5 comes out, the price will have risen.  
 As my wife and I are both getting the iPhone, I want to lock in that 
 price now.
 
 Les
 On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Careful there.  According to the article, there will be a limited 
> data plan for $39, but for a short time, an unlimited option will be 
> available for $29.99.  At least, that's how I read it.
> Donna
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah:
>> Thanks for doing the math on that one.:)  I kind of figured at&t 
>> would have to do something better and stronger to have let Verizon 
>> get it's paws on the iPhone.:)
>> I've come to like at&t better anyway, and I don't plan to jump ship 
>> any time soon.:)
>> Carolyn H
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. Has anyone managed to read the article? I f you add up VZ's 
>>> prices and then add up at&t's prices I believe if I did my math 
>>> right at&t will be a bit cheaper in the end.
>>

Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
I really didn't intentionally set any labels. I saw and still see that
the message is from "me", but it doesn't show up in the labels as
"me". I haven't gotten my own messages since I joined the list last
spring. Until I switched to pop. Go figure. There could be a number of
factors involved. Who knows. IMAP in Google seemed more unstable to me
than pop as well.

Teresa

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> Hi Teresa!
> Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
> address book!
> Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send you 
> will get a copy!
> If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>
> On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:
>
>
>
> > I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except 
> > for one.
>
> > Jane
>
> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>
> >> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
> >> copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
>
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Colin M
Hi Teresa!
Ok I'm running imap but I've got my own address book card in the address book 
[funny enough] and in there is a option to make that card your card!
Then in mail settings you can set it to cc yourself and from then on [when I 
set it up for me] I've received all my emails!
Even ones I've sent to people directly as well as the list!
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

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> I really didn't intentionally set any labels. I saw and still see that
> the message is from "me", but it doesn't show up in the labels as
> "me". I haven't gotten my own messages since I joined the list last
> spring. Until I switched to pop. Go figure. There could be a number of
> factors involved. Who knows. IMAP in Google seemed more unstable to me
> than pop as well.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> On Jan 28, 1:38 pm, Colin M  wrote:
>> Hi Teresa!
>> Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
>> address book!
>> Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send 
>> you will get a copy!
>> If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
>> Colin
>> Qapla!
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except 
>>> for one.
>> 
>>> Jane
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
 Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive 
 copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
>> 
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. But now it seems to be fixed. :)

Teresa
On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Teresa!
> Ok I'm running imap but I've got my own address book card in the address book 
> [funny enough] and in there is a option to make that card your card!
> Then in mail settings you can set it to cc yourself and from then on [when I 
> set it up for me] I've received all my emails!
> Even ones I've sent to people directly as well as the list!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> I really didn't intentionally set any labels. I saw and still see that
>> the message is from "me", but it doesn't show up in the labels as
>> "me". I haven't gotten my own messages since I joined the list last
>> spring. Until I switched to pop. Go figure. There could be a number of
>> factors involved. Who knows. IMAP in Google seemed more unstable to me
>> than pop as well.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 1:38 pm, Colin M  wrote:
>>> Hi Teresa!
>>> Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
>>> address book!
>>> Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send 
>>> you will get a copy!
>>> If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
>>> Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except 
 for one.
>>> 
 Jane
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I 
> receive copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
>>> 
> Teresa
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Re: scanning

2011-01-28 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Steph,
I don't use the Mac for scanning. I have a Windows pc and I use K1000. I am 
hopeful that as more people move to the Mac, a more robust, less fiddly 
solution for scanning will become available, but in the meantime, I use what 
I've used for ages.

Mary

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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Donna Goodin
Oh, I so agree!  the whole thing is ridiculous!  How many Android phones has 
Motorola come out with since August?  And we laugh about it, but here we are 
playing the same game with Apple.
Donna
On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> That is an excellent point Donna,
> 
> This constant tech gamble is starting to become mind numbing.  lol.  Buying a 
> phone has turned into buying a house but on a smaller scale.  sigh.  You must 
> predict the market months in advance to try to make a good short term and 
> long term decision.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hey Ricardo,
>> 
>> Good points.  The only thing I'd say about opting for unlimited data, is 
>> that it's hard to predict what your data usage will be in the future.  I 
>> never thought I would be a data hog, but lately I've been really into 
>> downloading movies and tv shows on my phone, so my data usage has gone up 
>> quite a bit.  If you have unlimited data you don't have to worry about 
>> changes/increases in your data use.  I guess in this respect I'm like Scott, 
>> I think unlimited anything rocks! lol
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Right,
>>> 
>>> Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
>>> either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very 
>>> sensible to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I 
>>> just urge people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with 
>>> hardware if they can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, 
>>> productivity.  For example, the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, 
>>> and a better camera, probably leads to better and faster results using an 
>>> app like oMoby, and aid colors.  Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way 
>>> from the devices resources that sighted people don't need to compensate 
>>> for.  In the case of the limited offering of the unlimited data plan from 
>>> VZ, I think people should think long and hard about this.  Do you have 
>>> reliable wifi access at home, work, school, or other places you spend a lot 
>>> of time?  Does your usage now, 
>>> comes
>>> anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
>>> might not even need an unlimited data plan.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to 
 the iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure 
 that the iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I 
 think people will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and 
 then make a decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  
 Personally, I may well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does 
 come out.
 Donna
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
> all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
> if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For 
> example, Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in 
> June, and it happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in 
> your area.  Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has 
> LTE in September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  
> Verizon would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the 
> iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and 
> buts in there. lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have 
> bought an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have 
> unlimited data.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
>> asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
>> that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
>> the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
>> have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
>> of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, 
>> and then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
>> picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
>> California, etc.
>> Best,
>>

Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi teresa:
You can also set up filters in gmail, settings where you have it go to, for 
example the macvisionaries mailbox if it has that and your name on it.  It's 
been a while since I did it.  But, If you explore settings in Google/gmail, 
it's possible to do this.  
If you want, I can look further into it and try to clarify the steps I took.
Carolyn H
On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. But now it seems to be fixed. :)
> 
> Teresa
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Teresa!
>> Ok I'm running imap but I've got my own address book card in the address 
>> book [funny enough] and in there is a option to make that card your card!
>> Then in mail settings you can set it to cc yourself and from then on [when I 
>> set it up for me] I've received all my emails!
>> Even ones I've sent to people directly as well as the list!
>> Colin
>> Qapla!
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 29 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> I really didn't intentionally set any labels. I saw and still see that
>>> the message is from "me", but it doesn't show up in the labels as
>>> "me". I haven't gotten my own messages since I joined the list last
>>> spring. Until I switched to pop. Go figure. There could be a number of
>>> factors involved. Who knows. IMAP in Google seemed more unstable to me
>>> than pop as well.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 1:38 pm, Colin M  wrote:
 Hi Teresa!
 Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
 address book!
 Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send 
 you will get a copy!
 If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
 Colin
 Qapla!
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
 On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:
 
 
 
> I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except 
> for one.
 
> Jane
 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
>> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I 
>> receive copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
 
>> Teresa
 
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Re: [acb-l] Read2Go App for Reading Bookshare books on "Apple devices

2011-01-28 Thread Zachary Kline
As do I.  Bookshare is promising a lot, and I hope they can deliver.  My 
natural impatience is unleashed, for sure.  
By the way, am I the only one who tried to sign up for the notification list 
and received absolutely no confirmation that I'd done so?  ?  The page just 
dropped me back to the form without even a "Thank you."  I'm not sure what to 
think of that.  I just hope they do indeed notify us when it's released.

On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> Pretty cool.  I'm looking forward to this.  Hope its worth the $20.  
> 
> Greg
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
 Hi everyone:
>> 
>> Since we've been talking about bookshare, I thought perhaps some might be 
>> interested in this information I received about this app.
>> Carolyn H
>> 
>> 
 http://www.bookshare.org/_/aboutUs/2011/01/read2go
 
 
 Benetech Announces New Accessible e-Book Reader for Apple iOS devices -
 iPad, iPhone,
 and iPod touch Users Can Read Bookshare Books with Read2Go
 Media Contact: Kristen Timmers
 krist...@benetech.org
 408-571-8826
 Media Contact: Valerie Chernek
 valeri...@bookshare.org
 410-871-2670
 January 26, 2011, Orlando, FL - At the 2011 ATIA (Assistive Technology
 Industry Association)
 conference in Orlando, Florida,
 Benetech
 R
 , the parent nonprofit for
 Bookshare
 R
 , announced Read2Go, a new accessible e-book application (app) developed in
 partnership
 with Shinano Kenshi Co., Ltd, known for its PLEXTALK
 R brand of digital talking book players.
 Read2Go is the most full-featured, accessible DAISY reader for the Apple
 device market.
 This very easy-to-use app for the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch connects
 directly
 to Bookshare for immediate on-the-go reading.  From within the app,
 individual users
 and schools supporting students can search, download, and read Bookshare
 books and
 periodicals and manage their books in a bookshelf.  In addition, Read2Go
 reads DAISY
 2.02 and 3.0 materials from some other sources.
 Based on reading preferences, users will have a wide range of options for
 font size,
 color and background color.  Word-by-word highlighting with simultaneous 
 text
 and
 speech enables multi-modal reading.  The app includes high-quality Acapela
 voices
 for highly natural narration.  Users will have options to turn the
 text-to-speech
 on and off and adjust the rate to their personal preferences.  Further,
 Read2Go supports
 all levels of DAISY navigation that are included in the structure of the
 book.
 "The Read2Go app is so exciting for so many reasons," said Valerie Maples.
 "Both
 my husband and daughter have been loyal Bookshare users for years and have
 waited
 for the release of an app that would let us read Bookshare books on the
 iPad.  The
 app should attract a large audience, the entire population with print
 disabilities
 around the globe!"
 "For many students who are blind, physically, or learning disabled, using
 their iPad,
 iPhone, or iPod touch means much more than access to the books they need 
 for
 classes.
 It means they can read the same books as their peers on the same devices,"
 said long-time
 Bookshare advocate Deborah Armstrong, Alternate Media Specialist for DeAnza
 College
 in Cupertino, California.  "The Read2Go app will offer many advantages for
 people
 who are blind as well as those who have physical or learning disabilities,
 including
 many features not available on other DAISY readers for Apple devices; the
 fact that
 Benetech is releasing this app is a very good thing."
 "This new app furthers our Benetech Literacy goal of making printed content
 accessible
 to individuals with print disabilities however and wherever they want it.
 With Read2Go,
 we're offering a mobile reading solution based on strong demand from our
 users,"
 said Betsy Beaumon, Vice President and General Manager of the Literacy
 Program at
 Benetech, the nonprofit organization that operates Bookshare.  "The
 accessibility
 built-in to iOS devices and their widespread and growing use highlight 
 their
 potential
 to help close the gap for students and other individuals with print
 disabilities."
 Read2Go will be available this quarter in the iTunes App store and will 
 sell
 for
 $19.99.  Interested users who would like immediate notification when the 
 app
 is available
 can provide contact information on a secure
 notify
 list.  Additional features, such as study tools, images, and multiple
 languages,
 will become be available in the coming months.
 For access to Bookshare books on these devices, qualified individuals will
 need a
 Bookshare 

Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
I didn't even need to do this.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Teresa!
> Ok I'm running imap but I've got my own address book card in the address book 
> [funny enough] and in there is a option to make that card your card!
> Then in mail settings you can set it to cc yourself and from then on [when I 
> set it up for me] I've received all my emails!
> Even ones I've sent to people directly as well as the list!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> I really didn't intentionally set any labels. I saw and still see that
>> the message is from "me", but it doesn't show up in the labels as
>> "me". I haven't gotten my own messages since I joined the list last
>> spring. Until I switched to pop. Go figure. There could be a number of
>> factors involved. Who knows. IMAP in Google seemed more unstable to me
>> than pop as well.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 1:38 pm, Colin M  wrote:
>>> Hi Teresa!
>>> Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
>>> address book!
>>> Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send 
>>> you will get a copy!
>>> If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
>>> Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, except 
 for one.
>>> 
 Jane
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I 
> receive copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
>>> 
> Teresa
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Re: Gmail via Pop?

2011-01-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Carolyn. No, I saw the reference to filters, and I may just invoke them 
for the purpose of not receiving list messages on my IPod. I'll figger it all 
out, I'm sure. :) If I have to yell for help, I certainly will do that and 
likely get good pointers from all you lister folks. :)

Thanks,
Teresa
On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi teresa:
> You can also set up filters in gmail, settings where you have it go to, for 
> example the macvisionaries mailbox if it has that and your name on it.  It's 
> been a while since I did it.  But, If you explore settings in Google/gmail, 
> it's possible to do this.  
> If you want, I can look further into it and try to clarify the steps I took.
> Carolyn H
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. But now it seems to be fixed. :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Colin M wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Teresa!
>>> Ok I'm running imap but I've got my own address book card in the address 
>>> book [funny enough] and in there is a option to make that card your card!
>>> Then in mail settings you can set it to cc yourself and from then on [when 
>>> I set it up for me] I've received all my emails!
>>> Even ones I've sent to people directly as well as the list!
>>> Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
>>> On 29 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 I really didn't intentionally set any labels. I saw and still see that
 the message is from "me", but it doesn't show up in the labels as
 "me". I haven't gotten my own messages since I joined the list last
 spring. Until I switched to pop. Go figure. There could be a number of
 factors involved. Who knows. IMAP in Google seemed more unstable to me
 than pop as well.
 
 Teresa
 
 On Jan 28, 1:38 pm, Colin M  wrote:
> Hi Teresa!
> Do you not want to or do you not know about setting your own card in your 
> address book!
> Then you can set mail to cc yourself and from then on any emails you send 
> you will get a copy!
> If you do not want to use this then fare enough!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 28 Jan 2011, at 21:15, Jane wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> I did this, but then I switched to iMap for all my email accounts, 
>> except for one.
> 
>> Jane
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>>> Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I 
>>> receive copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like.
> 
>>> Teresa
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thanks all

2011-01-28 Thread Stephanie Mitchell

Hi all.
Just want to thank you all for your support with the scanning.  I 
have it all working am am thrilled with the results.
The only prom is that when I purchassed vuescan something 
happened and I can't get my serial number or customer number to 
register it.  Any ideas how I can get this?

Thanks again,
Steph

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Re: Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.

2011-01-28 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Carolyn,

Thanks much for the suggestion.  Sadly private broewsing is *NOT* checked.  
Good idea though and I had not checked that prior to posting.

Geoff

On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Geoff:
> You might check menus, Safari.  If "private browsing" is checked, your 
> surfing history will not be saved.
> 
> HTH
> CH
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
 Greetings y'all,
 
 Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6.  
 Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is 
 from he day before I reinstalled.  I was kind of surprised that all my 
 files were retained.  I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard 
 drive and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the 
 dialogs carefully, but I digress.
 
 I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything 
 applicable.  In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk 
 utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled.  I looked in 
 /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files 
 named: "History.plist" and "HistoryIndex.sk".  I opened the plist file but 
 couldn't tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to mess 
 with them.  I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist file 
 was last updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index file's 
 time stamp corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or Safari.
 
 My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so 
 far.  This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of 
 knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer 
 a suggestion.  If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt?  Is 
 there a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard?
 
>>> Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department 
>>> of redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently  posted this to 
>>> VIPhone a while ago.
>>> 
>>> TIA and best regards.
 
 Geoff
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Re: Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.

2011-01-28 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jeff,
Could it be a permissions problem?  If Safari no longer has permission to 
update its history list, that could be an issue.  This is admittedly a shot in 
the dark, and not a very likely one at that.  Have you considered simply 
erasing the whole Safari folder structure and starting fresh?  This is drastic, 
but at least if you did that you could isolate potential contamination from 
your first instal.
Hope this helps,
Zack.

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> Hi Carolyn,
> 
> Thanks much for the suggestion.  Sadly private broewsing is *NOT* checked.  
> Good idea though and I had not checked that prior to posting.
> 
> Geoff
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff:
>> You might check menus, Safari.  If "private browsing" is checked, your 
>> surfing history will not be saved.
>> 
>> HTH
>> CH
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
> Greetings y'all,
> 
> Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6.  
> Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is 
> from he day before I reinstalled.  I was kind of surprised that all my 
> files were retained.  I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard 
> drive and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the 
> dialogs carefully, but I digress.
> 
> I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything 
> applicable.  In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk 
> utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled.  I looked in 
> /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files 
> named: "History.plist" and "HistoryIndex.sk".  I opened the plist file 
> but couldn't tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to 
> mess with them.  I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist 
> file was last updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index 
> file's time stamp corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or 
> Safari.
> 
> My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so 
> far.  This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of 
> knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer 
> a suggestion.  If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt?  Is 
> there a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard?
> 
 Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department 
 of redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently  posted this to 
 VIPhone a while ago.
 
 TIA and best regards.
> 
> Geoff
 
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turning on/off video in a call in new skype beta

2011-01-28 Thread John D. Lipsey
This is what I'm trying to do.  If there's a way to do it while in a call, it's 
sure not obvious to me.  Any help would be great.

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Recording both external mic and a system input on the Macbook Pro

2011-01-28 Thread Victor Tsaran

Hello all,
Does anyone know if there is a utility for Snow Leopard that would allow 
me to access "system input" and external mic input" at the same time for 
recording purposes? I know that some commercial software, like SnapZ 
Pro, is capable of doing that.
Just to clarify things... I am using one of those Apple headsets that 
come with iPhone.


Thanks for any advice.
Vic

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Re: Apple's online store reveals Verizon iPhone voice plans starting at $39.99

2011-01-28 Thread Scott Granados
Why do you think the new IPhone 5 won't support 4G?

At least HSPA+ I think is reasonable to expect.  The 4 supported HUPSA.

On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Yeah and now that at&t is quietly offering there unlimited back to some of 
> its costumers? I gues it pays to complain nicely. lol!
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hey Ricardo,
>> 
>> Good points.  The only thing I'd say about opting for unlimited data, is 
>> that it's hard to predict what your data usage will be in the future.  I 
>> never thought I would be a data hog, but lately I've been really into 
>> downloading movies and tv shows on my phone, so my data usage has gone up 
>> quite a bit.  If you have unlimited data you don't have to worry about 
>> changes/increases in your data use.  I guess in this respect I'm like Scott, 
>> I think unlimited anything rocks! lol
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Right,
>>> 
>>> Its not upgrading or not upgrading.  Its the reasons one might use to do 
>>> either.  If you get terrible AT&T service like you do, it sounds very 
>>> sensible to me to grab an iPhone 4.  Or if your phone is falling apart.  I 
>>> just urge people, especially blind people, to try to keep current with 
>>> hardware if they can.  It could mean enhanced accessibility, and or, 
>>> productivity.  For example, the addition of LED flash, a faster processor, 
>>> and a better camera, probably leads to better and faster results using an 
>>> app like oMoby, and aid colors.  Just running voiceover or zoom takes a way 
>>> from the devices resources that sighted people don't need to compensate 
>>> for.  In the case of the limited offering of the unlimited data plan from 
>>> VZ, I think people should think long and hard about this.  Do you have 
>>> reliable wifi access at home, work, school, or other places you spend a lot 
>>> of time?  Does your usage now, 
>>> comes
>>> anywhere near lets say 2GB of data a month?  Depending on the answers, you 
>>> might not even need an unlimited data plan.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 I don't think it's such a weak position.  Remember, I didn't upgrade to 
 the iPhone 4 last year.  My 3gs has served me fine.  I'm just not sure 
 that the iphone 4 is going to be instantly obsolete like you suggest.  I 
 think people will have to evaluate the new features of the iphone, and 
 then make a decision as to whether it's worth it to upgrade to the 5.  
 Personally, I may well hang on to my VZ iphone until a model with lte does 
 come out.
 Donna
 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Nope.  I understand that piece to the puzzle.  Its really not a piece at 
> all in my opinion.  I don't think the iPhone 5 will have 4 g anyway.  And 
> if it did, what your saying is still a weak position I think.  For 
> example, Lets say you buy an iPhone 4 on VZ.  The iPhone 5 comes out in 
> June, and it happens to have LTE.  Its ok because there is no coverage in 
> your area.  Cool.  Your not missing anything.  But what if your area has 
> LTE in September?  Or October?  You will still have your 3g iPhone 4.  
> Verizon would really start rolling out LTE at a blistering pace if the 
> iPhone 5 was a LTE handset.   But of course, there is a lot of if and 
> buts in there. lol.  I was just referring to people who would not have 
> bought an iPhone 4 on verizon now plunking down the cash just to have 
> unlimited data.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but Ricardo, you're missing a big piece here.  Last week I was 
>> asking about figuring out whether my area has LTE.  I got my answer to 
>> that question, and it doesn't.  So, yes, there'll be a newer version of 
>> the iPhone released shortly after I buy the VZ iPhone.  But if I don't 
>> have LTE here, it doesn't really matter.  True, I'll be left out of some 
>> of the new features, but I figure I'll get a year out of the iPhone 4, 
>> and then when we have LTE out here, I'll get the iphone 5.  I think the 
>> picture is really different for those of us who don't live in New York, 
>> California, etc.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I must applaud Verizon for this hustle.  Its freaking genius.  They 
>>> have found the ultimate carrot to entice people to by out dated, soon 
>>> to be obsolete, hardware.  lol.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype,