Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

its still my belief though that a MBP or good high end PC can be jus as instant 
on as a solid state memory device. my MBP when put into standby will start up 
and be ready to use in about 2 seconds or so, which is as fast, if not in fact 
faster than the new MBA.
On 15 Nov 2010, at 20:04, Austin Seraphin wrote:

You know, you've brought up a good point, as have a few others. The Braille 'n 
Speak did indeed have instant on, and it had it for the exact same reason as 
the MacBook Air. It did everything in memory. I kept thinking of a device that 
uses Flash for everything as a new development. I guess the more things change, 
the more they stay the same.

On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> I also have good memories of the Braille 'n Speak and the Braille Lite.  
> Besides them crashing and losing all of my data multiple times, I loved using 
> them in class.  I was extremely disappointed when I tried out the Pac mate.  
> It seemed to me like FS took a step backwards.
>Once I have the budget for it, I look forward to working with a MacBook 
> Air.  The newer models definitely sound like a huge step up from the previous 
> iteration.  One thing that I really liked about the Braille 'n Speak and 
> Braille Lite models were that instant on feature.  It made it a breeze to 
> keep up with real live.  I'm glad to see that the Air is taking Mac in this 
> direction.  Another hooray for Apple and accessibility.
> 
> Justin
> On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> I used a Braille and speak in about 1988 or so. The thing seemed 
>> revolutionary at the time. It was so small for what it did and the battery 
>> life was so good. I also liked the instant on feature. I saw nothing else 
>> that had those features at the time for the price. Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-11-11, at 5:36 PM, Austin Seraphin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just wanted to chime in on this thread. I went from using a netbook to a 
>>> MacBook Air, and definitely notice the difference. Admittedly, for me, my 
>>> netbook had a rather nonstandard configuration. It came with a Windows XP 
>>> partition, and a second blank partition presumably for media files and the 
>>> like. I just installed Arch Linux on the second partition and made a sweet 
>>> dual boot setup with a minimum of fuss. I could even access the Windows 
>>> partition from Linux, from which I did most of my work. I put together a 
>>> good enough environment, but Mac just kills it! For me, it feels like 
>>> owning two computers in one, since I can do a lot of cool Unix stuff on it 
>>> as well, including using ssh to control my other linux servers. Just so 
>>> cool!
>>> 
>>> That won't matter to most. Most will care about the hardware differences. 
>>> The macBook feels a lot more solid because of its unibody frame. You can 
>>> tell. You get what you pay for. The Air also uses flash for everything. 
>>> When they say "Instant On," they mean it! It also sounds better. The 
>>> netbook, at least the Asus I have, has its speakers on the bottom, whereas 
>>> the Air has them under the keyboard. I think the unibody frame also acts as 
>>> a sort of resonance chamber or something, it seems to help the sound 
>>> instead of hindering it. Oh and of course, unlike a Windows or Linux 
>>> netbook, you can actually use the trackpad! Don't get me wrong, I loved the 
>>> setup I created, and still have to find some ways of doing some things on 
>>> the Mac, but for me the Air just seemed like a no-brainer!
>>> 
>>> As for comparing the Air to notetakers, I never really got into reading 
>>> braille displays, so it didn't really bother me. I just got a sweet case 
>>> and now have the whole notetaking thing covered too. I just have to find 
>>> the best ways to take the notes! I like MacJournal for journaling and 
>>> blogging. TextEdit works for quick things. I know little of Pages, but will 
>>> want to. Either way, for me, the MacBook Air seems like the perfect 
>>> computer and notetaker. I still have a place in my heart for the Braille 'n 
>>> Speak though.
>>> 
>>> - Austin
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

the issue is that the new MBA throughout its product range uses only solid 
state memory, SSD, admittedly though so did the high end old ones.

so a solid state machine starting from cold, i.e.. not in standby can much more 
quickly start up and be ready to use, instant on is a little pushing it, but 
its about 4 maybe 5 seconds, which is pretty dam quick.

the question is, how much slower is a MBP with good spec. in my opinion, if you 
put the MBP into standby then its no quicker, if I shut my MBP down and start 
it up again, from cold, it takes about 11 seconds to be ready to use, this is a 
brand new, i7 with 7200 improved hard drive in it MBP, so top of the line. so 
this will make a difference.

but the key here is, when you start comparing 5 seconds verse 10 seconds, etc, 
are we really discussing productivity or vanity / desire?

I'm not saying that those who buy a MBA are all about vanity, I bought one to 
compare against my MBP, but sent it back as I preferred the sound quality of my 
MBP and the i7 in this 15in model.

I also require the larger hard drive storage space not available in either the 
11 or 15 inch models of the MBA.

>From an aesthetically point I also didn't like the metallic rim around the 
>screen of the new MBA.

cheers.
On 16 Nov 2010, at 07:38, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Admittedly, I am jumping in on this thread midway but ...

I went to the Apple store today and took a good long look at the MacBook Air.  
To me, it appears to act just like my MacBook Pro; that is, there is a power on 
button which acts just like the one on my Pro.  

After shutting the Air off, Restart is just like my Mac.

So, what is this Instant On feature and how does it work?

Mark
On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> You know, you've brought up a good point, as have a few others. The Braille 
> 'n Speak did indeed have instant on, and it had it for the exact same reason 
> as the MacBook Air. It did everything in memory. I kept thinking of a device 
> that uses Flash for everything as a new development. I guess the more things 
> change, the more they stay the same.
> 
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
> 
>> I also have good memories of the Braille 'n Speak and the Braille Lite.  
>> Besides them crashing and losing all of my data multiple times, I loved 
>> using them in class.  I was extremely disappointed when I tried out the Pac 
>> mate.  It seemed to me like FS took a step backwards.
>>   Once I have the budget for it, I look forward to working with a MacBook 
>> Air.  The newer models definitely sound like a huge step up from the 
>> previous iteration.  One thing that I really liked about the Braille 'n 
>> Speak and Braille Lite models were that instant on feature.  It made it a 
>> breeze to keep up with real live.  I'm glad to see that the Air is taking 
>> Mac in this direction.  Another hooray for Apple and accessibility.
>> 
>> Justin
>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>> 
>>> I used a Braille and speak in about 1988 or so. The thing seemed 
>>> revolutionary at the time. It was so small for what it did and the battery 
>>> life was so good. I also liked the instant on feature. I saw nothing else 
>>> that had those features at the time for the price. Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-11, at 5:36 PM, Austin Seraphin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I just wanted to chime in on this thread. I went from using a netbook to a 
 MacBook Air, and definitely notice the difference. Admittedly, for me, my 
 netbook had a rather nonstandard configuration. It came with a Windows XP 
 partition, and a second blank partition presumably for media files and the 
 like. I just installed Arch Linux on the second partition and made a sweet 
 dual boot setup with a minimum of fuss. I could even access the Windows 
 partition from Linux, from which I did most of my work. I put together a 
 good enough environment, but Mac just kills it! For me, it feels like 
 owning two computers in one, since I can do a lot of cool Unix stuff on it 
 as well, including using ssh to control my other linux servers. Just so 
 cool!
 
 That won't matter to most. Most will care about the hardware differences. 
 The macBook feels a lot more solid because of its unibody frame. You can 
 tell. You get what you pay for. The Air also uses flash for everything. 
 When they say "Instant On," they mean it! It also sounds better. The 
 netbook, at least the Asus I have, has its speakers on the bottom, whereas 
 the Air has them under the keyboard. I think the unibody frame also acts 
 as a sort of resonance chamber or something, it seems to help the sound 
 instead of hindering it. Oh and of course, unlike a Windows or Linux 
 netbook, you can actually use the trackpad! Don't get me wrong, I loved 
 the setup I created, and still have to find some ways of doing some things 
 on the Ma

Re: Addressbook disappearing on Iphone

[Sarah Alawami]

I have no issues with that as I try exporting the address book via the mac and 
backing up my phone every day. 

On Nov 15, 2010, at 21:06, Allison Manzino  wrote:

> Hi James,
> I'm sorry I got you so upset. I think the fualt lies with me, I  should have 
> assumed that the contacts would disappear since they are not synced to my 
> IIphone, but didn't. This is the 3GS I was pseaking of not the four. I didn't 
> make that clear in my post. Luckily, I can get most of the contacts back, two 
> of my colleagues I will see tomorrow, and the other woman I have her number 
> stored on my Voicemail. I will look at the tool you mentioned. Have a 
> wonderful day.
> 
> Musically,
> Allison
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:29 PM, James Mannion wrote:
> 
>> I am aware, as many are, that there are wide spread reports all over
>> the internet of contacts disappearing problems on the IPhone in 4.x. I
>> do not know in exactly what situations it happens, but in my opinion
>> it is completely unaceptable that they are going to make something
>> that claims to be a damn cell phone and there are reliability issues
>> with the contacts even dstaying on the damn thing! This is just what I
>> think is a justified frustration with this product not measuring up to
>> acceptable standards in an area where it clearly should. In any case,
>> I have come to the conclusion that a way around part of the problem of
>> the lack of reliability, and only part of the problem but at least a
>> big part, is to use a program like IDrive lite or contact tools to
>> backup your contacts from the phone once you have them the way you
>> want them and these programs allow a way of restoring selected
>> contacts or the entire database. Contact tools keeps the backup on the
>> phone internally in its own file in your choice of formats, a couple
>> of which are able to be used for a restore and IDrive lite backs them
>> up to their server on the internet and can be accessed through a web
>> browser from anywhere. The parts that definitely can not solve is the
>> inconvenience and the issue of when some disappear and you get an
>> incoming call from one that has disappeared at that time and the phone
>> will not recognize who that is and will give you a number instead I
>> presume on the caller ID that hopefully you will recognize at that
>> time. An unreliable contacts manager in something that has any damn
>> business calling itself a phone is something that is just absolutely
>> unacceptable in my opinion for sure though. Maybe 4.2 will fix it, but
>> I doubt that more than I would assume it would. I love what the IPhone
>> afords us in accessibility, but I can't stand what I perceive as
>> Apple's attitude towards quality assurance in their products. They get
>> by on people's inflated illusions in that area. Yes that is my
>> opinion. Yes some will disagree. Can they back up their position? I
>> don't know.
>> 
>> On 11/15/10, Allison Manzino  wrote:
>>> Hi Sarah and all,
>>> 
>>> No These contacts were manually added by me on the Iphone. Now, I can't find
>>> them uh oh. I'm confused because I thought the Iphone backed up
>>> automatically. One of them is the number for the cab company I use to get to
>>> work :(.
>>> 
>>> Musically,
>>> Allison
>>> 
>>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Are they on your mac address book? if not they might have been removed
 that way.
 
 Take care.
 
 s
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right list to post to. So I apologize in
> advance. I tried to sync my contacts this morning, and two contacts that
> previously existed on my Iphone are gone. Where did they go? Any help
> would be greatly appreciated. Have a wonderful day.
> 
> Cheerfully,
> Allison
> 
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Sarah Alawami]

You make some valid points. My mbp takes about a minute to boot so instant on 
is good in an air. 

On Nov 16, 2010, at 0:38, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  wrote:

> the issue is that the new MBA throughout its product range uses only solid 
> state memory, SSD, admittedly though so did the high end old ones.
> 
> so a solid state machine starting from cold, i.e.. not in standby can much 
> more quickly start up and be ready to use, instant on is a little pushing it, 
> but its about 4 maybe 5 seconds, which is pretty dam quick.
> 
> the question is, how much slower is a MBP with good spec. in my opinion, if 
> you put the MBP into standby then its no quicker, if I shut my MBP down and 
> start it up again, from cold, it takes about 11 seconds to be ready to use, 
> this is a brand new, i7 with 7200 improved hard drive in it MBP, so top of 
> the line. so this will make a difference.
> 
> but the key here is, when you start comparing 5 seconds verse 10 seconds, 
> etc, are we really discussing productivity or vanity / desire?
> 
> I'm not saying that those who buy a MBA are all about vanity, I bought one to 
> compare against my MBP, but sent it back as I preferred the sound quality of 
> my MBP and the i7 in this 15in model.
> 
> I also require the larger hard drive storage space not available in either 
> the 11 or 15 inch models of the MBA.
> 
> From an aesthetically point I also didn't like the metallic rim around the 
> screen of the new MBA.
> 
> cheers.
> On 16 Nov 2010, at 07:38, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Admittedly, I am jumping in on this thread midway but ...
> 
> I went to the Apple store today and took a good long look at the MacBook Air. 
>  To me, it appears to act just like my MacBook Pro; that is, there is a power 
> on button which acts just like the one on my Pro.  
> 
> After shutting the Air off, Restart is just like my Mac.
> 
> So, what is this Instant On feature and how does it work?
> 
> Mark
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> 
>> You know, you've brought up a good point, as have a few others. The Braille 
>> 'n Speak did indeed have instant on, and it had it for the exact same reason 
>> as the MacBook Air. It did everything in memory. I kept thinking of a device 
>> that uses Flash for everything as a new development. I guess the more things 
>> change, the more they stay the same.
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
>> 
>>> I also have good memories of the Braille 'n Speak and the Braille Lite.  
>>> Besides them crashing and losing all of my data multiple times, I loved 
>>> using them in class.  I was extremely disappointed when I tried out the Pac 
>>> mate.  It seemed to me like FS took a step backwards.
>>>  Once I have the budget for it, I look forward to working with a MacBook 
>>> Air.  The newer models definitely sound like a huge step up from the 
>>> previous iteration.  One thing that I really liked about the Braille 'n 
>>> Speak and Braille Lite models were that instant on feature.  It made it a 
>>> breeze to keep up with real live.  I'm glad to see that the Air is taking 
>>> Mac in this direction.  Another hooray for Apple and accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>> 
 I used a Braille and speak in about 1988 or so. The thing seemed 
 revolutionary at the time. It was so small for what it did and the battery 
 life was so good. I also liked the instant on feature. I saw nothing else 
 that had those features at the time for the price. Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2010-11-11, at 5:36 PM, Austin Seraphin  
 wrote:
 
> I just wanted to chime in on this thread. I went from using a netbook to 
> a MacBook Air, and definitely notice the difference. Admittedly, for me, 
> my netbook had a rather nonstandard configuration. It came with a Windows 
> XP partition, and a second blank partition presumably for media files and 
> the like. I just installed Arch Linux on the second partition and made a 
> sweet dual boot setup with a minimum of fuss. I could even access the 
> Windows partition from Linux, from which I did most of my work. I put 
> together a good enough environment, but Mac just kills it! For me, it 
> feels like owning two computers in one, since I can do a lot of cool Unix 
> stuff on it as well, including using ssh to control my other linux 
> servers. Just so cool!
> 
> That won't matter to most. Most will care about the hardware differences. 
> The macBook feels a lot more solid because of its unibody frame. You can 
> tell. You get what you pay for. The Air also uses flash for everything. 
> When they say "Instant On," they mean it! It also sounds better. The 
> netbook, at least the Asus I have, has its speakers on the bottom, 
> whereas the Air has them under the keyboard. I think the unibody frame 
> also acts as a sort of resonance c

Re: garage band with voice over

[f10r14n]

Wow mate,

You seem to be left in the dark awfully often around here ...
The bug you mention isn't known to me i'm afraid. When i played with
the new GB everything seemed to work fine. Did your instruments work
before? I had a problem where it didnt play software synthesizers the
first time, but that was because of me not having them installed yet,
heh.
I recommend turning voiceOver on and off and see if that helps. If it
doesnt, have a close look at the items around the browser. Make sure
you didn't accidentally get into for example the media browser, that
would explain your issue. Find the checkboxes and make sure track info
is checked and media browser and loop browser are not. (you can leave
loopbrowser on if you like but it clutters up the screen when you
don't need it IMO)

HTH,
Florian
chad baker schreef:
> Hi everything is working is garage band accept the browser where go through 
> the instruments.
> i interacted with it and it worked fine then all the sudden it bonked at me.
> also i tried not interacting with the browser and vo didn't speak nothing.
> is this bug if so is there a support e mail i can send it to.
> thanks

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Re: accessible version of audacity

[Colin M]

Hi Courtney!
I went to the site and I think I've got it!

audacity-macosx-ub-1.3.11.dmg 17054KB Jan 19 2010 11:32:15 AM

On 16 Nov 2010, at 01:23, Courtney Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> I can't find the exact link to download it when it says click here, nothing 
> happens.
> Courtney
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chad from another list I'm on!
>> 
>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi i'm looking for the accessible version of audacity can't find it i 
>>> googled it and couldn't find it.
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Re: accessible version of audacity

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

One thing that surprises me about this is why this is not provided through the 
official SourceForge site of Audacity. Or is it? Because I never managed to 
find it. And, does anyone know why two versions are necessary? Why not just 
integrate the enhancements?

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Courtney!
> I went to the site and I think I've got it!
> 
> audacity-macosx-ub-1.3.11.dmg 17054KB Jan 19 2010 11:32:15 AM
> 
> On 16 Nov 2010, at 01:23, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I can't find the exact link to download it when it says click here, nothing 
>> happens.
>> Courtney
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Colin M wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chad from another list I'm on!
>>> 
>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml
>>> 
>>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi i'm looking for the accessible version of audacity can't find it i 
 googled it and couldn't find it.
 
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Re: accessible version of audacity

[Rafaela Freundt]

Hi,

I am wondering that too. Also I've checked in their FAQ and they state that at 
the moment, audacity isn't accessible on the mac side. So it is weird that we 
do have an accessible version but it is not the latest one.
When I downloaded the latest release, it only read unknown for me everywhere.

Rafaela
El 16/11/2010, a las 06:07, Nicolai Svendsen escribió:

> Hi!
> 
> One thing that surprises me about this is why this is not provided through 
> the official SourceForge site of Audacity. Or is it? Because I never managed 
> to find it. And, does anyone know why two versions are necessary? Why not 
> just integrate the enhancements?
> 
> Regards,
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> On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Courtney!
>> I went to the site and I think I've got it!
>> 
>> audacity-macosx-ub-1.3.11.dmg 17054KB Jan 19 2010 11:32:15 AM
>> 
>> On 16 Nov 2010, at 01:23, Courtney Curran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I can't find the exact link to download it when it says click here, nothing 
>>> happens.
>>> Courtney
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Colin M wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Chad from another list I'm on!
 
 http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml
 
 On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:
 
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Re: skype 5 and dialing account numbers within a call

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, Skype 5 beta turns out to be so buggy I've gone back to 2.8.


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> When I try to call my bank to check my balance using Skype, the numbers I 
> type in are not recognized, even though, when I use my cell phone, the number 
> is correct.  Has anyone experienced a situation where a phone system didn't 
> recognized touch-tones generated by Skype?
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Re: skype 5 and dialing account numbers within a call

[Justin Thornton]

hi
try this for future refferance
when in a call
press command plus the number 2
this will also togle the dialpad
this should bring up a box to input numbers
in order to get the tones to sound when you press the corasponding numbers 
press VO right arrow until you land on one of the actual number buttons
now you can press the number row and here the tones while in a call and they 
will get transmitted
when you done press command W to close the window
hth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> Just look down the screen when you have a call active and you will notice a 
> check box for "toggle Dial pad". Check this and the dial pad will become 
> active. You should now be able to enter tones while in a call. If you make a 
> call and notice that the technical call window is active, just press 
> command-w to close it.
> 
> Doug
> 
> On 2010-11-15, at 10:57 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> 
>> When I try to call my bank to check my balance using Skype, the numbers I 
>> type in are not recognized, even though, when I use my cell phone, the 
>> number is correct.  Has anyone experienced a situation where a phone system 
>> didn't recognized touch-tones generated by Skype?
>> 
>> 
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Re: skype 5 and dialing account numbers within a call

[Justin Thornton]

I have seen this also and have to admit
it takes a little timing and listening to get the number pressed right
skype may have some sort of filter that causes this but im not sure
you not alone though if that makes ya feel better!
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> I'm sorry, you've misunderstood me.  I press Command 2 to toggle ON the dial 
> pad before attempting to dial my account number.  However, when I push the 
> buttons on the keyboard corresponding to my account number, even though I 
> hear the touch tones being made by Skype, the banking system does not 
> recognize them as valid.  When I call back on my cell, however, using the 
> same numbers, it works fine.
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Re: Addressbook disappearing on Iphone

[Allison Manzino]

Hi all,

I'm curious about one thing. In the contacts it says rows 78 of 98 but I can 
only see up to row 78. I cannot go passed this row and I'm not sure why. THe 
three finger flick up will not accomplish this. It's just odd that it's 
saying-there are more contacts than it is displaying. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. what am I doing wrong? THank you for all the help you have 
provided thus far. Have a great day.

Musically,
Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I have no issues with that as I try exporting the address book via the mac 
> and backing up my phone every day. 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 21:06, Allison Manzino  wrote:
> 
>> Hi James,
>> I'm sorry I got you so upset. I think the fualt lies with me, I  should have 
>> assumed that the contacts would disappear since they are not synced to my 
>> IIphone, but didn't. This is the 3GS I was pseaking of not the four. I 
>> didn't make that clear in my post. Luckily, I can get most of the contacts 
>> back, two of my colleagues I will see tomorrow, and the other woman I have 
>> her number stored on my Voicemail. I will look at the tool you mentioned. 
>> Have a wonderful day.
>> 
>> Musically,
>> Allison
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:29 PM, James Mannion wrote:
>> 
>>> I am aware, as many are, that there are wide spread reports all over
>>> the internet of contacts disappearing problems on the IPhone in 4.x. I
>>> do not know in exactly what situations it happens, but in my opinion
>>> it is completely unaceptable that they are going to make something
>>> that claims to be a damn cell phone and there are reliability issues
>>> with the contacts even dstaying on the damn thing! This is just what I
>>> think is a justified frustration with this product not measuring up to
>>> acceptable standards in an area where it clearly should. In any case,
>>> I have come to the conclusion that a way around part of the problem of
>>> the lack of reliability, and only part of the problem but at least a
>>> big part, is to use a program like IDrive lite or contact tools to
>>> backup your contacts from the phone once you have them the way you
>>> want them and these programs allow a way of restoring selected
>>> contacts or the entire database. Contact tools keeps the backup on the
>>> phone internally in its own file in your choice of formats, a couple
>>> of which are able to be used for a restore and IDrive lite backs them
>>> up to their server on the internet and can be accessed through a web
>>> browser from anywhere. The parts that definitely can not solve is the
>>> inconvenience and the issue of when some disappear and you get an
>>> incoming call from one that has disappeared at that time and the phone
>>> will not recognize who that is and will give you a number instead I
>>> presume on the caller ID that hopefully you will recognize at that
>>> time. An unreliable contacts manager in something that has any damn
>>> business calling itself a phone is something that is just absolutely
>>> unacceptable in my opinion for sure though. Maybe 4.2 will fix it, but
>>> I doubt that more than I would assume it would. I love what the IPhone
>>> afords us in accessibility, but I can't stand what I perceive as
>>> Apple's attitude towards quality assurance in their products. They get
>>> by on people's inflated illusions in that area. Yes that is my
>>> opinion. Yes some will disagree. Can they back up their position? I
>>> don't know.
>>> 
>>> On 11/15/10, Allison Manzino  wrote:
 Hi Sarah and all,
 
 No These contacts were manually added by me on the Iphone. Now, I can't 
 find
 them uh oh. I'm confused because I thought the Iphone backed up
 automatically. One of them is the number for the cab company I use to get 
 to
 work :(.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
 
 
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Are they on your mac address book? if not they might have been removed
> that way.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> s
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm not sure if this is the right list to post to. So I apologize in
>> advance. I tried to sync my contacts this morning, and two contacts that
>> previously existed on my Iphone are gone. Where did they go? Any help
>> would be greatly appreciated. Have a wonderful day.
>> 
>> Cheerfully,
>> Allison
>> 
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Re: accessible version of audacity

[Colin M]

Hi there all!
Going by what I can find on the site, this is a interim test build so they say!
I do not know if it will be included in future releases, they also say it may 
contain bugs!
So they might be testing the waters to see how people like it and its 
popularity!
And I suppose what kind of feed back they get!
I'm only guessing though!
hth Colin
On 16 Nov 2010, at 11:11, Rafaela Freundt wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am wondering that too. Also I've checked in their FAQ and they state that 
> at the moment, audacity isn't accessible on the mac side. So it is weird that 
> we do have an accessible version but it is not the latest one.
> When I downloaded the latest release, it only read unknown for me everywhere.
> 
> Rafaela
> El 16/11/2010, a las 06:07, Nicolai Svendsen escribió:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> One thing that surprises me about this is why this is not provided through 
>> the official SourceForge site of Audacity. Or is it? Because I never managed 
>> to find it. And, does anyone know why two versions are necessary? Why not 
>> just integrate the enhancements?
>> 
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>> 
>>> Hi Courtney!
>>> I went to the site and I think I've got it!
>>> 
>>> audacity-macosx-ub-1.3.11.dmg 17054KB Jan 19 2010 11:32:15 AM
>>> 
>>> On 16 Nov 2010, at 01:23, Courtney Curran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 I can't find the exact link to download it when it says click here, 
 nothing happens.
 Courtney
 
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> Hi Chad from another list I'm on!
> 
> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml
> 
> On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:
> 
>> Hi i'm looking for the accessible version of audacity can't find it i 
>> googled it and couldn't find it.
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removing unnatural pauses while using Ivox voices

[Ray Foret Jr]

To anybody using Ivox voices,  While reading text using VO+a, I notice 
unnaturally long pauses quite possibly due to line breaks or periods.  Is there 
any way to cut out these pauses?  Note that all my sounds are activated, and, 
merely deactivating the sounds does not much help.  Thanks.


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Re: removing unnatural pauses while using Ivox voices

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

This is the same with Native Mac OS X voices currently. Also, it stops Alex 
from breathing. You will also notice this when going to elements such as 
multi-line edit fields on websites. It also applies to text fields in general 
most of the time. I'm sad this hasn't been fixed yet.

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> To anybody using Ivox voices,  While reading text using VO+a, I notice 
> unnaturally long pauses quite possibly due to line breaks or periods.  Is 
> there any way to cut out these pauses?  Note that all my sounds are 
> activated, and, merely deactivating the sounds does not much help.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> 
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Re: accessible version of audacity

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

True enough. I really am curious why there are two builds. It'd be very 
interesting to see if they have the same features, though. Given the version 
numbers match, I'd presume that to be the case. If not, I have to wonder how 
committed the Audacity team is to previous accessibility efforts. Also, I'm a 
little concerned that it's listed as two different applications, and not the 
same application. As far as I know, nothing points to this directory anywhere 
on the official site:
http://audacity.homerow.net

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> Hi there all!
> Going by what I can find on the site, this is a interim test build so they 
> say!
> I do not know if it will be included in future releases, they also say it may 
> contain bugs!
> So they might be testing the waters to see how people like it and its 
> popularity!
> And I suppose what kind of feed back they get!
> I'm only guessing though!
> hth Colin
> On 16 Nov 2010, at 11:11, Rafaela Freundt wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am wondering that too. Also I've checked in their FAQ and they state that 
>> at the moment, audacity isn't accessible on the mac side. So it is weird 
>> that we do have an accessible version but it is not the latest one.
>> When I downloaded the latest release, it only read unknown for me everywhere.
>> 
>> Rafaela
>> El 16/11/2010, a las 06:07, Nicolai Svendsen escribió:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> One thing that surprises me about this is why this is not provided through 
>>> the official SourceForge site of Audacity. Or is it? Because I never 
>>> managed to find it. And, does anyone know why two versions are necessary? 
>>> Why not just integrate the enhancements?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> Facebook
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>>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Colin M wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Courtney!
 I went to the site and I think I've got it!
 
 audacity-macosx-ub-1.3.11.dmg 17054KB Jan 19 2010 11:32:15 AM
 
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> Hi,
> I can't find the exact link to download it when it says click here, 
> nothing happens.
> Courtney
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chad from another list I'm on!
>> 
>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:
>> 
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>>> googled it and couldn't find it.
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iTunes Ping and purchasing albums

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hey everyone!

I took the chance and sent this to both lists. Since Mac-Access concerns itself 
with IOS as well and not just Mac OS X, there's no need to send it to ViPhone.

I have an artist on Ping who released an album quite recently...yesterday, to 
be precise. I clicked to view the album in the group. Let's just clear 
something up here for those not using Ping that much.

When an artist wants to share his album with you in their posts, they show up 
as a group below their post. Within that group, all information relevant to the 
album is displayed as well as a link to the artist. Now, here is where the 
problem is.

I clicked the link for the album itself within the group in question. I was 
told it was not available in the Danish iTunes Store, however if I went and 
search within the iTunes Store, it was found and I was able to purchase without 
any hassle. Checking the link, it referred to the Danish store the way it 
should have, and the links were in fact identical to each other.

Has anyone experienced this both on IOS and Mac OS X? This sounds like a 
terrible bug. I'd assume it'd have something to do with both platforms, since 
it's the store itself.

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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Carolyn Haas]

Mark:
How did you even find the power on button?  I couldn't find one in the usual 
place.
carolyn
On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Admitedly, I am jumping in on this thread midway but ...
> 
> I went to the Apple store today and took a good long look at the MacBook Air. 
>  To me, it appears to act just like my MacBook Pro; that is, there is a power 
> on button which acts just like the one on my Pro.  
> 
> After shutting the Air off, Restart is just like my Mac.
> 
> So, what is this Instant On feature and how does it work?
> 
> Mark
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> 
>> You know, you've brought up a good point, as have a few others. The Braille 
>> 'n Speak did indeed have instant on, and it had it for the exact same reason 
>> as the MacBook Air. It did everything in memory. I kept thinking of a device 
>> that uses Flash for everything as a new development. I guess the more things 
>> change, the more they stay the same.
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
>> 
>>> I also have good memories of the Braille 'n Speak and the Braille Lite.  
>>> Besides them crashing and losing all of my data multiple times, I loved 
>>> using them in class.  I was extremely disappointed when I tried out the Pac 
>>> mate.  It seemed to me like FS took a step backwards.
>>>   Once I have the budget for it, I look forward to working with a MacBook 
>>> Air.  The newer models definitely sound like a huge step up from the 
>>> previous iteration.  One thing that I really liked about the Braille 'n 
>>> Speak and Braille Lite models were that instant on feature.  It made it a 
>>> breeze to keep up with real live.  I'm glad to see that the Air is taking 
>>> Mac in this direction.  Another hooray for Apple and accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>> 
 I used a Braille and speak in about 1988 or so. The thing seemed 
 revolutionary at the time. It was so small for what it did and the battery 
 life was so good. I also liked the instant on feature. I saw nothing else 
 that had those features at the time for the price. Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2010-11-11, at 5:36 PM, Austin Seraphin  
 wrote:
 
> I just wanted to chime in on this thread. I went from using a netbook to 
> a MacBook Air, and definitely notice the difference. Admittedly, for me, 
> my netbook had a rather nonstandard configuration. It came with a Windows 
> XP partition, and a second blank partition presumably for media files and 
> the like. I just installed Arch Linux on the second partition and made a 
> sweet dual boot setup with a minimum of fuss. I could even access the 
> Windows partition from Linux, from which I did most of my work. I put 
> together a good enough environment, but Mac just kills it! For me, it 
> feels like owning two computers in one, since I can do a lot of cool Unix 
> stuff on it as well, including using ssh to control my other linux 
> servers. Just so cool!
> 
> That won't matter to most. Most will care about the hardware differences. 
> The macBook feels a lot more solid because of its unibody frame. You can 
> tell. You get what you pay for. The Air also uses flash for everything. 
> When they say "Instant On," they mean it! It also sounds better. The 
> netbook, at least the Asus I have, has its speakers on the bottom, 
> whereas the Air has them under the keyboard. I think the unibody frame 
> also acts as a sort of resonance chamber or something, it seems to help 
> the sound instead of hindering it. Oh and of course, unlike a Windows or 
> Linux netbook, you can actually use the trackpad! Don't get me wrong, I 
> loved the setup I created, and still have to find some ways of doing some 
> things on the Mac, but for me the Air just seemed like a no-brainer!
> 
> As for comparing the Air to notetakers, I never really got into reading 
> braille displays, so it didn't really bother me. I just got a sweet case 
> and now have the whole notetaking thing covered too. I just have to find 
> the best ways to take the notes! I like MacJournal for journaling and 
> blogging. TextEdit works for quick things. I know little of Pages, but 
> will want to. Either way, for me, the MacBook Air seems like the perfect 
> computer and notetaker. I still have a place in my heart for the Braille 
> 'n Speak though.
> 
> - Austin
> 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Ricardo,

I've been buying PC laptops for the past 2 years without C drives, so Apple 
didn't pip their way to the punch with that one.

also please folks note that the MBA 11in doesn't have an SD slot either.
On 13 Nov 2010, at 10:01, Ricardo Walker wrote:

In my opinion its a good trade off less size and weight for no optical drive.  
Those things are going the way of the cassette tape and 3.5 floppy. :).  I 
mean.  People are streaming video, downloading music and applications so what 
purpose will the CD-Rom drive have in say 3 years?  I think Apple has just 
beaten the market to the punch in the exclusion of the optical drive.  You will 
see other computer makers do the same.  Don't be surprised if the new MBPs 
don't have them either.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> The air has an internal SSD drive but no external cd rom.  You can do that 
> over the network though or use an exteranal CD.
> 
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sonnia and Marlaina:
>> I'm finding something a little different and am interested in your comments. 
>>  What I find is a lot of the ltters I type are there, but are not echoed if 
>> I type quickly.  I've gone back many a time to look if a letter that wasn't 
>> spoken was missing, and it was there, just not spoken.  
>> Poor Alex, getting picked on all over the place.:)
>> 
>> So, are you saying the Air doesn't have a disk drive?
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Sonnia wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marlaina! The problem of missing letters (or rather vo not keeping
>>> up with your typing) is the exact problem i have with my macbook pro. :
>>> ( I guess like you, i must either slow down or do tons of editing. I
>>> had wanted a macbook air but when i went to the apple store, the
>>> gentleman tried his level best to convince me that for a student in
>>> that price range, the pro was best. So thats what i got but i don't
>>> mind switching it for an air lol. (oooh please no hurt feelings to my
>>> pro, it's served me well.) :) The fact it doesn't have a cd drive is a
>>> bit annoying but not a deal breaker b/c you can get an external drive
>>> for a decent price at lots of electronic stores. When i was mac
>>> shopping though there wasn't a 11 inch air available though *frowns* i
>>> would have pushed to buy it no matter what the rep had said hahaha.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 I so love how quickly my Air powers up for me.  It makes me laugh every 
 time I use it.  I wil tell you one small thing I do not like about he Air, 
 but it is so small it's not worth being upset about.  I am a very very 
 fast typist and the keyboard appears to be less sensitive to my flying 
 fingers because when I really get going, I see words with missing letters 
 even though I know I hae typed them.  Ah, see the word have which I just 
 typed, is h a e but I did hit the v.  So, I will either do a lot of 
 editing, or slow down a tad.  But, I have not even had this for a week, so 
 perhaps I'll get use to it in time.  Aside from that, this thing is 
 wonderful and oh yah, I have had a netbook with all the attendant windows 
 issues, smile.
 
 Marlaina
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the 
 macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol!
 
 S
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
> Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, 
> Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook 
> thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and 
> size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of 
> key differences:
> 
> 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full 
> sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a 
> bit reduced, though.
> 
> 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's 
> using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed 
> than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, 
> not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power 
> sacrificed.
> 
> 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, 
> powerup.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook 
>> the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook 
>> air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one 
>> day. They sound cool 

Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Carolynn,

its where the eject button is, they've moved the eject button to the left, if 
you feel the top F row its got one extra key.
On 16 Nov 2010, at 15:47, Carolyn Haas wrote:

Mark:
How did you even find the power on button?  I couldn't find one in the usual 
place.
carolyn
On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Admitedly, I am jumping in on this thread midway but ...
> 
> I went to the Apple store today and took a good long look at the MacBook Air. 
>  To me, it appears to act just like my MacBook Pro; that is, there is a power 
> on button which acts just like the one on my Pro.  
> 
> After shutting the Air off, Restart is just like my Mac.
> 
> So, what is this Instant On feature and how does it work?
> 
> Mark
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> 
>> You know, you've brought up a good point, as have a few others. The Braille 
>> 'n Speak did indeed have instant on, and it had it for the exact same reason 
>> as the MacBook Air. It did everything in memory. I kept thinking of a device 
>> that uses Flash for everything as a new development. I guess the more things 
>> change, the more they stay the same.
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
>> 
>>> I also have good memories of the Braille 'n Speak and the Braille Lite.  
>>> Besides them crashing and losing all of my data multiple times, I loved 
>>> using them in class.  I was extremely disappointed when I tried out the Pac 
>>> mate.  It seemed to me like FS took a step backwards.
>>>  Once I have the budget for it, I look forward to working with a MacBook 
>>> Air.  The newer models definitely sound like a huge step up from the 
>>> previous iteration.  One thing that I really liked about the Braille 'n 
>>> Speak and Braille Lite models were that instant on feature.  It made it a 
>>> breeze to keep up with real live.  I'm glad to see that the Air is taking 
>>> Mac in this direction.  Another hooray for Apple and accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>> 
 I used a Braille and speak in about 1988 or so. The thing seemed 
 revolutionary at the time. It was so small for what it did and the battery 
 life was so good. I also liked the instant on feature. I saw nothing else 
 that had those features at the time for the price. Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2010-11-11, at 5:36 PM, Austin Seraphin  
 wrote:
 
> I just wanted to chime in on this thread. I went from using a netbook to 
> a MacBook Air, and definitely notice the difference. Admittedly, for me, 
> my netbook had a rather nonstandard configuration. It came with a Windows 
> XP partition, and a second blank partition presumably for media files and 
> the like. I just installed Arch Linux on the second partition and made a 
> sweet dual boot setup with a minimum of fuss. I could even access the 
> Windows partition from Linux, from which I did most of my work. I put 
> together a good enough environment, but Mac just kills it! For me, it 
> feels like owning two computers in one, since I can do a lot of cool Unix 
> stuff on it as well, including using ssh to control my other linux 
> servers. Just so cool!
> 
> That won't matter to most. Most will care about the hardware differences. 
> The macBook feels a lot more solid because of its unibody frame. You can 
> tell. You get what you pay for. The Air also uses flash for everything. 
> When they say "Instant On," they mean it! It also sounds better. The 
> netbook, at least the Asus I have, has its speakers on the bottom, 
> whereas the Air has them under the keyboard. I think the unibody frame 
> also acts as a sort of resonance chamber or something, it seems to help 
> the sound instead of hindering it. Oh and of course, unlike a Windows or 
> Linux netbook, you can actually use the trackpad! Don't get me wrong, I 
> loved the setup I created, and still have to find some ways of doing some 
> things on the Mac, but for me the Air just seemed like a no-brainer!
> 
> As for comparing the Air to notetakers, I never really got into reading 
> braille displays, so it didn't really bother me. I just got a sweet case 
> and now have the whole notetaking thing covered too. I just have to find 
> the best ways to take the notes! I like MacJournal for journaling and 
> blogging. TextEdit works for quick things. I know little of Pages, but 
> will want to. Either way, for me, the MacBook Air seems like the perfect 
> computer and notetaker. I still have a place in my heart for the Braille 
> 'n Speak though.
> 
> - Austin
> 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

there is a Mac Book Air Super Drive though which is a specific Apple product 
for this purpose, its a small light weight unit, which only has one USB lead, 
no power cable, as it draws its power from the Air.

very nice unit, although ripping disks and burning does take longer than an 
internal drive, be aware of this.
On 13 Nov 2010, at 05:51, Sarah Alawami wrote:

It does not have a cd drive so you have to go external.

Good luck.
On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Sonnia and Marlaina:
> I'm finding something a little different and am interested in your comments.  
> What I find is a lot of the ltters I type are there, but are not echoed if I 
> type quickly.  I've gone back many a time to look if a letter that wasn't 
> spoken was missing, and it was there, just not spoken.  
> Poor Alex, getting picked on all over the place.:)
> 
> So, are you saying the Air doesn't have a disk drive?
> 
> 
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Sonnia wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marlaina! The problem of missing letters (or rather vo not keeping
>> up with your typing) is the exact problem i have with my macbook pro. :
>> ( I guess like you, i must either slow down or do tons of editing. I
>> had wanted a macbook air but when i went to the apple store, the
>> gentleman tried his level best to convince me that for a student in
>> that price range, the pro was best. So thats what i got but i don't
>> mind switching it for an air lol. (oooh please no hurt feelings to my
>> pro, it's served me well.) :) The fact it doesn't have a cd drive is a
>> bit annoying but not a deal breaker b/c you can get an external drive
>> for a decent price at lots of electronic stores. When i was mac
>> shopping though there wasn't a 11 inch air available though *frowns* i
>> would have pushed to buy it no matter what the rep had said hahaha.
>> 
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> I so love how quickly my Air powers up for me.  It makes me laugh every 
>>> time I use it.  I wil tell you one small thing I do not like about he Air, 
>>> but it is so small it's not worth being upset about.  I am a very very fast 
>>> typist and the keyboard appears to be less sensitive to my flying fingers 
>>> because when I really get going, I see words with missing letters even 
>>> though I know I hae typed them.  Ah, see the word have which I just typed, 
>>> is h a e but I did hit the v.  So, I will either do a lot of editing, or 
>>> slow down a tad.  But, I have not even had this for a week, so perhaps I'll 
>>> get use to it in time.  Aside from that, this thing is wonderful and oh 
>>> yah, I have had a netbook with all the attendant windows issues, smile.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the 
>>> macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol!
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>> 
 Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, 
 Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook 
 thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and 
 size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of 
 key differences:
 
 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full 
 sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a 
 bit reduced, though.
 
 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using 
 a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the 
 newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one 
 optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed.
 
 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> OH nice, but if apple says it is going  to make it like the pc netbook 
> the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook 
> air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to  try one one 
> day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what 
> not.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, 
>> NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth 
>> of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting.  I am 
>> ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but 
>> without all the weight.  I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely 
>> wonderful.
>> 
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 
>> 
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>> 
>> The

Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

A Drobo is short for a Data Robotics appliance, its a network Attached storage 
device which operates in what they call beyond RAID coniguration, simular to 
NetGearss X-RAID and others.

basically its a unit which you can put multiple hard drives into and access 
them across your network, some have only USB, some have file sharing 
functionlaity and others have iSCSI which allows for direct over the network 
connectivity.

they are nice, and very user friendly, although for the money I'd opt for a 
NetGear unit with X-RAID

On 13 Nov 2010, at 16:24, Kimberly thurman wrote:

If I may ask, what is a Pogo Plug and Drobo?  Thanks!  :)
On Nov 13, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

> I just bought a MacBook last February and now I want one of the 11 inch 
> MacBook airs. Getting back to the cd rom drive, I hardly use mine. When I get 
> my pogoplug and drobo next week all of the stuff I have on hard drives and 
> CDs laying around is getting put over on the drobo. When I get this set up I 
> will be able to access all of my files anywhere in the world from any 
> computer. There is even an app for iOS devices. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2010-11-13, at 6:31 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion its a good trade off less size and weight for no optical 
>> drive.  Those things are going the way of the cassette tape and 3.5 floppy. 
>> :).  I mean.  People are streaming video, downloading music and applications 
>> so what purpose will the CD-Rom drive have in say 3 years?  I think Apple 
>> has just beaten the market to the punch in the exclusion of the optical 
>> drive.  You will see other computer makers do the same.  Don't be surprised 
>> if the new MBPs don't have them either.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> The air has an internal SSD drive but no external cd rom.  You can do that 
>>> over the network though or use an exteranal CD.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sonnia and Marlaina:
 I'm finding something a little different and am interested in your 
 comments.  What I find is a lot of the ltters I type are there, but are 
 not echoed if I type quickly.  I've gone back many a time to look if a 
 letter that wasn't spoken was missing, and it was there, just not spoken.  
 Poor Alex, getting picked on all over the place.:)
 
 So, are you saying the Air doesn't have a disk drive?
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Sonnia wrote:
 
> Hi Marlaina! The problem of missing letters (or rather vo not keeping
> up with your typing) is the exact problem i have with my macbook pro. :
> ( I guess like you, i must either slow down or do tons of editing. I
> had wanted a macbook air but when i went to the apple store, the
> gentleman tried his level best to convince me that for a student in
> that price range, the pro was best. So thats what i got but i don't
> mind switching it for an air lol. (oooh please no hurt feelings to my
> pro, it's served me well.) :) The fact it doesn't have a cd drive is a
> bit annoying but not a deal breaker b/c you can get an external drive
> for a decent price at lots of electronic stores. When i was mac
> shopping though there wasn't a 11 inch air available though *frowns* i
> would have pushed to buy it no matter what the rep had said hahaha.
> 
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> I so love how quickly my Air powers up for me.  It makes me laugh every 
>> time I use it.  I wil tell you one small thing I do not like about he 
>> Air, but it is so small it's not worth being upset about.  I am a very 
>> very fast typist and the keyboard appears to be less sensitive to my 
>> flying fingers because when I really get going, I see words with missing 
>> letters even though I know I hae typed them.  Ah, see the word have 
>> which I just typed, is h a e but I did hit the v.  So, I will either do 
>> a lot of editing, or slow down a tad.  But, I have not even had this for 
>> a week, so perhaps I'll get use to it in time.  Aside from that, this 
>> thing is wonderful and oh yah, I have had a netbook with all the 
>> attendant windows issues, smile.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the 
>> macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol!
>> 
>> S
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, 
>>> Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook 
>>> thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and 
>>> size, and a rose by any othe

Re: Fun fun fun with Alex :)

[Daniel Rowe]

Hi.
Jaws does actually have quite a few emoticons and abbreviations in the 
dictionary manager file for windows live messenger, so you could use that to 
find out what they are and add them to VO's pronunciation dictionary if you're 
so inclined.

Dannie

On 15 Nov 2010, at 21:41, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi everyone:
> Ok, I have always  been intrigued by the idea of emoticons, and I was just 
> blown away when I first heard Alex read the smiley emoticon.  Well, of course 
> there are tons of these.  But, as a blind person, I never had a clue about 
> how they were represented, nor did I care.  But, with Vo making me laugh 
> every time I encountered a smiley, I finally broke down and had to find out 
> how to teach him some new ones.
> So, I found a list of emoticons, and interacted with the text to learn how 
> differing ones are made.  Perhaps I have too much time on my hands, but I've 
> had a great time discovering the kinds of things, (some naughty and some 
> nice) that people can make out of simple text characters.  
> What we did today in class was to go into VO Utilities, speech and 
> pronunciation where you can add new ones.  Interesting, unless Alex is set to 
> recognize them, a blind user would never know they're even there!  So, 
> someone could send some very interesting messages and we'd be none the 
> wiser.:(
> 
> I don't know if Jaws has this capability, but I've never had my pc throw 
> smileys or other text-based representations at me in this way.  So, I thought 
> others might appreciate this as well.
> It would be interesting
> to see if others are using others besides smiley and frown.  
> 
> CarolynCarolyn Haas
> chaas0...@gmail.com
> When you come to a fork in the road,
> It's time to eat.
> 
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Re: Fun fun fun with Alex :)

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

Or, you could find an online listing. I know there are lots of those, and even 
emoticons that you've never even heard of. The only issue is that some 
applications write smiley as :-), and other write it as :). I realize VoiceOver 
will pronounce both of these, however, but that's just an example. That 
requires more pronunciations added, but it's a fun time waster. I suppose it 
may come in handy if someone is mad at you, but you don't know what the angry 
smiley looks like.

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:

> Hi.
> Jaws does actually have quite a few emoticons and abbreviations in the 
> dictionary manager file for windows live messenger, so you could use that to 
> find out what they are and add them to VO's pronunciation dictionary if 
> you're so inclined.
> 
> Dannie
> 
> On 15 Nov 2010, at 21:41, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone:
>> Ok, I have always  been intrigued by the idea of emoticons, and I was just 
>> blown away when I first heard Alex read the smiley emoticon.  Well, of 
>> course there are tons of these.  But, as a blind person, I never had a clue 
>> about how they were represented, nor did I care.  But, with Vo making me 
>> laugh every time I encountered a smiley, I finally broke down and had to 
>> find out how to teach him some new ones.
>> So, I found a list of emoticons, and interacted with the text to learn how 
>> differing ones are made.  Perhaps I have too much time on my hands, but I've 
>> had a great time discovering the kinds of things, (some naughty and some 
>> nice) that people can make out of simple text characters.  
>> What we did today in class was to go into VO Utilities, speech and 
>> pronunciation where you can add new ones.  Interesting, unless Alex is set 
>> to recognize them, a blind user would never know they're even there!  So, 
>> someone could send some very interesting messages and we'd be none the 
>> wiser.:(
>> 
>> I don't know if Jaws has this capability, but I've never had my pc throw 
>> smileys or other text-based representations at me in this way.  So, I 
>> thought others might appreciate this as well.
>> It would be interesting
>> to see if others are using others besides smiley and frown.  
>> 
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>> When you come to a fork in the road,
>> It's time to eat.
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Can't empty the trash.

[Kimberly thurman]

Hello all:

I just tried to empty my trash and it said I can't because the Google Chrome 
DMG is in use.  How do I take care of this?  I installed Google Chrome 
yesterday, but it is still inaccessible.  All I got was "Google Chrome has no 
windows" when I command tabbed around.  

Thanks in advance!  :)

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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

[Kimberly thurman]

Thanks for the explanation.  Very cool!
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> A Drobo is short for a Data Robotics appliance, its a network Attached 
> storage device which operates in what they call beyond RAID coniguration, 
> simular to NetGearss X-RAID and others.
> 
> basically its a unit which you can put multiple hard drives into and access 
> them across your network, some have only USB, some have file sharing 
> functionlaity and others have iSCSI which allows for direct over the network 
> connectivity.
> 
> they are nice, and very user friendly, although for the money I'd opt for a 
> NetGear unit with X-RAID
> 
> On 13 Nov 2010, at 16:24, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
> If I may ask, what is a Pogo Plug and Drobo?  Thanks!  :)
> On Nov 13, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> I just bought a MacBook last February and now I want one of the 11 inch 
>> MacBook airs. Getting back to the cd rom drive, I hardly use mine. When I 
>> get my pogoplug and drobo next week all of the stuff I have on hard drives 
>> and CDs laying around is getting put over on the drobo. When I get this set 
>> up I will be able to access all of my files anywhere in the world from any 
>> computer. There is even an app for iOS devices. 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-11-13, at 6:31 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> In my opinion its a good trade off less size and weight for no optical 
>>> drive.  Those things are going the way of the cassette tape and 3.5 floppy. 
>>> :).  I mean.  People are streaming video, downloading music and 
>>> applications so what purpose will the CD-Rom drive have in say 3 years?  I 
>>> think Apple has just beaten the market to the punch in the exclusion of the 
>>> optical drive.  You will see other computer makers do the same.  Don't be 
>>> surprised if the new MBPs don't have them either.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 The air has an internal SSD drive but no external cd rom.  You can do that 
 over the network though or use an exteranal CD.
 
 On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
> Hi Sonnia and Marlaina:
> I'm finding something a little different and am interested in your 
> comments.  What I find is a lot of the ltters I type are there, but are 
> not echoed if I type quickly.  I've gone back many a time to look if a 
> letter that wasn't spoken was missing, and it was there, just not spoken. 
>  
> Poor Alex, getting picked on all over the place.:)
> 
> So, are you saying the Air doesn't have a disk drive?
> 
> 
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Sonnia wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marlaina! The problem of missing letters (or rather vo not keeping
>> up with your typing) is the exact problem i have with my macbook pro. :
>> ( I guess like you, i must either slow down or do tons of editing. I
>> had wanted a macbook air but when i went to the apple store, the
>> gentleman tried his level best to convince me that for a student in
>> that price range, the pro was best. So thats what i got but i don't
>> mind switching it for an air lol. (oooh please no hurt feelings to my
>> pro, it's served me well.) :) The fact it doesn't have a cd drive is a
>> bit annoying but not a deal breaker b/c you can get an external drive
>> for a decent price at lots of electronic stores. When i was mac
>> shopping though there wasn't a 11 inch air available though *frowns* i
>> would have pushed to buy it no matter what the rep had said hahaha.
>> 
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> I so love how quickly my Air powers up for me.  It makes me laugh every 
>>> time I use it.  I wil tell you one small thing I do not like about he 
>>> Air, but it is so small it's not worth being upset about.  I am a very 
>>> very fast typist and the keyboard appears to be less sensitive to my 
>>> flying fingers because when I really get going, I see words with 
>>> missing letters even though I know I hae typed them.  Ah, see the word 
>>> have which I just typed, is h a e but I did hit the v.  So, I will 
>>> either do a lot of editing, or slow down a tad.  But, I have not even 
>>> had this for a week, so perhaps I'll get use to it in time.  Aside from 
>>> that, this thing is wonderful and oh yah, I have had a netbook with all 
>>> the attendant windows issues, smile.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the 
>>> macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol!
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>> 
 Apple *never* said that the Air was

Re: skype 5 and dialing account numbers within a call

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Okay, I can give that a try, but 1) it's very quiet here, next to no ambient 
noise and 2) I don't have this problem on my cell, and the mic is not muted 
there.  Maybe the mic in my Macbook is much more sensitive than the one in my 
cell though.


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Re: skype 5 and dialing account numbers within a call

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I am hitting command 2 to toggle on and off the dial pad; I use the numbers on 
the number row of my keyboard to make the tones; I don't need to click every 
button in the boxes set up on the screen; that's a visual aid and, unless it 
makes different noises than when pressing the numbers, the number row is 
quickest.  I hear the tones, just like I do on my cell, but the computer on the 
other end doesn't recognize them; what's odd about this is, when it says "Press 
one for English," and I press 1, it works. It's only when putting in a 
nine-digit account number that Skype has problems; I'm wondering if it's a slow 
transmission problem, and that I have to wait a second or so after pressing in 
each number...


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Re: Can't empty the trash.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

The DMG is probably mounted as a volume.  Go to your desktop and eject it.

hth

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> Hello all:
> 
> I just tried to empty my trash and it said I can't because the Google Chrome 
> DMG is in use.  How do I take care of this?  I installed Google Chrome 
> yesterday, but it is still inaccessible.  All I got was "Google Chrome has no 
> windows" when I command tabbed around.  
> 
> Thanks in advance!  :)
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Re: Can't empty the trash.

[Kimberly thurman]

That was it!  Can't believe I didn't think of that.  :)  You guys are great!
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The DMG is probably mounted as a volume.  Go to your desktop and eject it.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> Hello all:
>> 
>> I just tried to empty my trash and it said I can't because the Google Chrome 
>> DMG is in use.  How do I take care of this?  I installed Google Chrome 
>> yesterday, but it is still inaccessible.  All I got was "Google Chrome has 
>> no windows" when I command tabbed around.  
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!  :)
>> 
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Re: Mod note -was- Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

[Scott Granados]

Heh Andy, nice to see you on the list.  Glad I was able to provide you a few 
yucks.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

> scott's post gave me the biggest laugh I have had from anything on this
> list.
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:09 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mod note -was- Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION
> 
> Okay All;
> 
> Chill!
> 
> Personally the Mac / sex analogy etc. doesn't bother me a bit. However,
> since we have a multi-cultural, multi-racial list of many belief systems /
> age groups, I'd respectfully ask that we keep this in mind and not only be
> considerate of others but also just plain be polite.
> 
> If you can't all at least act like adults about this stuff and realize that
> it actually might offend people and that each of you isn't the only one on
> this list, then you simply won't be able to post here. That's all there is
> to it.
> 
> I'm sorry, but we really do all need to just get along and be nice to each
> other. that's not too much to ask, is it? :)
> 
> So please, enjoy each other's company and please try being a bit considerate
> of other's views here, whether you share them or not.
> 
> Thanks and have a terrific day!.
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
> Here's a shocker for you, I don't give a flying you know what.
> 
> Delete it remember that's the key in the upper right hand of your keyboard.
> In fact, it takes a lot less energy to hit that key than it does to send a
> meaningless rant.
> 
> Must have found a whale.:)
> 
> So back at you, I find your rant highly offensive, uneducated and a
> reflection of a lack of funny bone which should be a capitol offense.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote:
> 
>> Scott,
>> I find your message to be very offensive, tasteless, and sexist, as well
> as being  entirely off topic.
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like 
>>> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that
> everyone wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips
> when she hits bag?
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS
> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS
> AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
 
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why the fuss over the MBA

[Matthew J]

hi all,

I'm afraid I don't quite understand why the MBA is generating such hipe 
in the news at the moment. I know its a little bit smaller and thinner, 
I accept that and that it might be good for some users, but the fact of 
it having only 1 USB port and no direct ethernet, plus 7  hrs of battery 
when the mbp bosts 10? *headdesk* but I have a quick question.
Wouldn't an mbp, just the stock 2.4 duo core one, with a solid state 128 
gb ssd come out of standby in say 3 seconds, just like the macbook air 
does? That plus a longer battery life more ram and a very similar price 
point, even factoring in the ssd upgrade? Since I know you can't put a 
7200 rpm in an mbp13 is why I chose the ssd because a 5400 yeah, its a 
bit slow, no doubt.


So basically, why haven't people thought of this? or is it really just a 
few inches and a bit of thickness causing people to shell out for these?

MJ

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office for the mack vs i works:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone!,
i wanted to know  does it matter really  if you have either i-works but not 
office for the mb pro or do you need both to operate  your  mb pro?
chenelle

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Re: why the fuss over the MBA

[Buddy Brannan]

You forgot, too, that the Air is a *lot* lighter. A pound and a half, give or 
take, makes a lot of difference. And it has two USB ports, not one. The old Air 
only had one. 
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> hi all,
> 
> I'm afraid I don't quite understand why the MBA is generating such hipe in 
> the news at the moment. I know its a little bit smaller and thinner, I accept 
> that and that it might be good for some users, but the fact of it having only 
> 1 USB port and no direct ethernet, plus 7  hrs of battery when the mbp bosts 
> 10? *headdesk* but I have a quick question.
> Wouldn't an mbp, just the stock 2.4 duo core one, with a solid state 128 gb 
> ssd come out of standby in say 3 seconds, just like the macbook air does? 
> That plus a longer battery life more ram and a very similar price point, even 
> factoring in the ssd upgrade? Since I know you can't put a 7200 rpm in an 
> mbp13 is why I chose the ssd because a 5400 yeah, its a bit slow, no doubt.
> 
> So basically, why haven't people thought of this? or is it really just a few 
> inches and a bit of thickness causing people to shell out for these?
> MJ
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Re: why the fuss over the MBA

[Matthew Campbell]

The SSD makes the macbook air a lot speedier in some tasks as well and the 
reason for that is because the hard drive is one of the slowest parts in a 
computer.

On 2010-11-16, at 1:05 PM, Matthew J wrote:

> hi all,
> 
> I'm afraid I don't quite understand why the MBA is generating such hipe in 
> the news at the moment. I know its a little bit smaller and thinner, I accept 
> that and that it might be good for some users, but the fact of it having only 
> 1 USB port and no direct ethernet, plus 7  hrs of battery when the mbp bosts 
> 10? *headdesk* but I have a quick question.
> Wouldn't an mbp, just the stock 2.4 duo core one, with a solid state 128 gb 
> ssd come out of standby in say 3 seconds, just like the macbook air does? 
> That plus a longer battery life more ram and a very similar price point, even 
> factoring in the ssd upgrade? Since I know you can't put a 7200 rpm in an 
> mbp13 is why I chose the ssd because a 5400 yeah, its a bit slow, no doubt.
> 
> So basically, why haven't people thought of this? or is it really just a few 
> inches and a bit of thickness causing people to shell out for these?
> MJ
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Re: office for the mack vs i works:

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Chenelle,

Unfortunately, Office for Mac is not accessible to VO users so there really is 
no choice.

In any case, iWork09 is very good and can read and produce documents in the 
Office formats. iWork is also considerably cheaper than Office.

Cheers,

Anne


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> 
> hi everyone!,
> i wanted to know  does it matter really  if you have either i-works but not 
> office for the mb pro or do you need both to operate  your  mb pro?
> chenelle
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mack is like crap:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,

I just wanted to say that i do not infer that the mack is like crap theory to 
be offensive at all.  however,  i can understand why some would find it to be 
quite offensive to them though. a joke is a joke and it should not turn into 
something  that is horrific to someone else  that might not be able to take a 
joke.  laughter  is the best medicine that one can receive through these most 
horrific times that we are having. but i still do love the mack and will 
continue to love it.
chenelle

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Re: Exporting an Itunes library

[Jonathan Cohn]

Also, there was a description on the current issue of Tidbits
(http://tidbits.com) discussing sharing music  on an external drive
with other people in your houshold.

I haven't tried their process yet, but I certainly plan on it.

on


On 14/11/2010, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the easiest way to accomplish this is to simply copy the complete iTunes
> folder from your Music folder onto the external drive.  Then, startup iTunes
> while holding down the Option key which will force iTunes to ask about
> choosing a Library.  Press cmd-shift-c to access all devices connected to
> your computer.  Select the external drive, expand it then select the copied
> iTunes folder.  Press Choose and everything will work just like it did when
> your Library was in its original location.  You can then delete the old
> iTunes folder if you wish without any problems or leave it where it is and
> in either case, there will not be any duplicate issues.
>
> Later...
>
> On 2010-11-13, at 12:11 PM, Colin M wrote:
>
>> Hi Krister!
>> The way I understand how Itunes works when you tell it to use the library
>> on your external drive it will not be looking anywhere else so you can
>> just delete the one on your hd or leave it as a back up!
>> I'm sure someone will tell you if I've got that wrong :]
>> Colin
>>
>> On 13 Nov 2010, at 17:59, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Hi and thanks for the tip. The thing is, i have the music folder in my
>>> Itunes library so i haven't moved anything yet. One would think it's only
>>> a matter of firstly moving the library folder onto the hard drive and
>>> then telling Itunes where it is, only thing is, i'm afraid it'll be all
>>> confused and give me duplicates and the like.
>>> /Krister
>>>
>>> 13 nov 2010 kl. 16.25 skrev Ricardo Walker:
>>>
 Hi,

 It is just a 2 step process.  First you will want to go into the
 settings in iTunes and under advance, change the default iTunes music
 library to the folder on your external that contains all your music.
 Then copy and paste the iTunes .xml and other iTunes file onto your
 external.  These should be found in your home folder under music/iTunes.

 hth

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> Ok, this is one of a couple stupid questions that i am going to ask. I
> will ask them in 2 separate emails so as to not mix things up for those
> interested in one subject and not in the other.
> I'm planning on using my external 1 TB hard drive as home for my music
> and sound, so it can be accessed from anywhere. I have my hard drive
> hooked up to my Airport Extreme. How do i best go about to transfer my
> Itunes library with all music to the hard drive and then use it without
> Itunes getting all confused? Is it complicated or is it simply a matter
> of copy/paste? I would be thankful for step-by-step instructions.
> /Krister
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Re: macbook pro battery.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Nektarios,

You can find out all about your Mac by getting Coconut Identity Card from:


Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Nov 2010, at 04:20, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello. 
> How can I tel which macbook model I have? Is it possible that I purchased an 
> earlier model? 
> It reports core2 duo 2.66 GHZ, 4 GB of ram and 320 GB hard drive. What else 
> should I look for, to determine my model? 
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I can get about 5 hours out of it buti have the older model.
>> 
>> S
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. 
>>> They say up to 10 hours. 
>>> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
>>> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
>>> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain 
>>> function of voice over help? 
>>> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
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Re: why the fuss over the MBA

[Esther]

Hi,

I thought this article at the LowEnd Mac site titled, "SSD: Why the  
2010 MacBook Air Is So Fast" by Dan Knight did a good job of  
explaining the previous speed performance limits (historically, and  
also for the MBA in recent technology context):

http://lowendmac.com/musings/10mm/ssd-means-fast.html

The performance boost is, in large part, due to the solid state disk  
performance, as Matthew J mentioned, but there's a slight edge from  
also having your base system integrated and tuned to use this  
hardware.  And if you want the very fastest edge, you'll have to  
custom order the 4GB memory option online, since the memory is not  
user upgradable from the models you buy from the retailer.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 16, 2010, Matthew Campbell wrote:

The SSD makes the macbook air a lot speedier in some tasks as well  
and the reason for that is because the hard drive is one of the  
slowest parts in a computer.


On 2010-11-16, Matthew J wrote:


hi all,

I'm afraid I don't quite understand why the MBA is generating such  
hipe in the news at the moment. I know its a little bit smaller and  
thinner, I accept that and that it might be good for some users,  
but the fact of it having only 1 USB port and no direct ethernet,  
plus 7  hrs of battery when the mbp bosts 10? *headdesk* but I have  
a quick question.
Wouldn't an mbp, just the stock 2.4 duo core one, with a solid  
state 128 gb ssd come out of standby in say 3 seconds, just like  
the macbook air does? That plus a longer battery life more ram and  
a very similar price point, even factoring in the ssd upgrade?  
Since I know you can't put a 7200 rpm in an mbp13 is why I chose  
the ssd because a 5400 yeah, its a bit slow, no doubt.


So basically, why haven't people thought of this? or is it really  
just a few inches and a bit of thickness causing people to shell  
out for these?

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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

[Esther]

Hi John (and Jonathan),

This may be overkill for your needs, but this kind of customization is  
easy to do with a software application called TextExpander from  
SmileOnMyMac.  TextExpander allows you to define your own custom  
snippets that get expanded, optionally with the format and placement  
you want.  For example, since the default samples already include a  
snippet definition, "ddate" (date with an extra leading "d") that  
would insert the current date in the format: November 16, 2010, and a  
"ttime" (time with an extra leading "t") that inserts time as 2:41 PM,  
I decided to create a new snippet with assigned name "dtstamp" (for  
date and time stamp), that has exactly the format you specified  
(leading day of week, and time using a 24 hour clock).  It took me  
less than a minute with the TextExpander Preferences pane (on my older  
version of this software) to create the snippet definition by going to  
the menu button beyond the content text area for snippets and  
selecting the formats I wanted under the date and time options. You  
even have date and time math options -- so if you're writing somebody  
to give their warranty period and want to automatically insert the  
expiration date for a fixed number of months or years from now, you  
can define a snippet that will include that calculation.


I use the TextExpander Touch app more on my iPod Touch, especially  
before Bluetooth keyboards were supported, and extensive typing on the  
virtual keyboard was more of an issue.  While you don't need to have  
TextExpander on your computer to use it on your iPhone or iPod Touch,  
if you do have the Mac version of TextExpander (with its expanded  
capabilities), you can sync its definitions to the iPhone or iPod Touch.


I've just checked that my snippet definition for "dtstamp" works on  
the iPod Touch:

%A, %B %e, %Y, %1H:%M

The TextExpander definitions will work in any app -- so if I wanted to  
type this in Pages, or mail, I could have the formatted date/time  
stamp show up each time I typed the string.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 15, 2010, John Sanfilippo wrote:


Jon,

Thanks for replying.

I'd want a date/time stamp like this:

Monday, November 15, 2010, 14:41

Note the 24 hour clock.

I looked at date and time and text formats.

js

On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Well,  I don't believe there is a built in function for that, but I
believe a one could quickly set up an automation, and then enable it
as a text function to work in all standard text input fields.  Would
you want the standard Ddate as specified in the Internationalization,
or a special format.   It is quite amazing all the diffferent styles
of dates that are available in the International section of system
preferences.

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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

[louie]

Ester,
How much does this app cost?


On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi John (and Jonathan),
> 
> This may be overkill for your needs, but this kind of customization is easy 
> to do with a software application called TextExpander from SmileOnMyMac.  
> TextExpander allows you to define your own custom snippets that get expanded, 
> optionally with the format and placement you want.  For example, since the 
> default samples already include a snippet definition, "ddate" (date with an 
> extra leading "d") that would insert the current date in the format: November 
> 16, 2010, and a "ttime" (time with an extra leading "t") that inserts time as 
> 2:41 PM, I decided to create a new snippet with assigned name "dtstamp" (for 
> date and time stamp), that has exactly the format you specified (leading day 
> of week, and time using a 24 hour clock).  It took me less than a minute with 
> the TextExpander Preferences pane (on my older version of this software) to 
> create the snippet definition by going to the menu button beyond the content 
> text area for snippets and selecting the formats I wanted under the date and 
> time options. You even have date and time math options -- so if you're 
> writing somebody to give their warranty period and want to automatically 
> insert the expiration date for a fixed number of months or years from now, 
> you can define a snippet that will include that calculation.
> 
> I use the TextExpander Touch app more on my iPod Touch, especially before 
> Bluetooth keyboards were supported, and extensive typing on the virtual 
> keyboard was more of an issue.  While you don't need to have TextExpander on 
> your computer to use it on your iPhone or iPod Touch, if you do have the Mac 
> version of TextExpander (with its expanded capabilities), you can sync its 
> definitions to the iPhone or iPod Touch.
> 
> I've just checked that my snippet definition for "dtstamp" works on the iPod 
> Touch:
> %A, %B %e, %Y, %1H:%M
> 
> The TextExpander definitions will work in any app -- so if I wanted to type 
> this in Pages, or mail, I could have the formatted date/time stamp show up 
> each time I typed the string.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, John Sanfilippo wrote:
> 
>> Jon,
>> 
>> Thanks for replying.
>> 
>> I'd want a date/time stamp like this:
>> 
>> Monday, November 15, 2010, 14:41
>> 
>> Note the 24 hour clock.
>> 
>> I looked at date and time and text formats.
>> 
>> js
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> 
>> Well,  I don't believe there is a built in function for that, but I
>> believe a one could quickly set up an automation, and then enable it
>> as a text function to work in all standard text input fields.  Would
>> you want the standard Ddate as specified in the Internationalization,
>> or a special format.   It is quite amazing all the diffferent styles
>> of dates that are available in the International section of system
>> preferences.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

[Esther]

Hi Louis,

List price is $34.95 for the Mac (computer) version, but I bought an  
earlier version on sale:


http://smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/

You can search for previous mentions to this app in the archives, in  
the context of HTML coding and other items.  You can also use it to  
correct your spelling of technical words.  Note that the iPhone  
version only expands in apps that support TextExpander, but there are  
quite a few that do, since they released the SDK for free use.


Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 16, 2010, at 09:41, louie wrote:


Ester,
How much does this app cost?


On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Esther wrote:


Hi John (and Jonathan),

This may be overkill for your needs, but this kind of customization  
is easy to do with a software application called TextExpander from  
SmileOnMyMac.  TextExpander allows you to define your own custom  
snippets that get expanded, optionally with the format and  
placement you want.  For example, since the default samples already  
include a snippet definition, "ddate" (date with an extra leading  
"d") that would insert the current date in the format: November 16,  
2010, and a "ttime" (time with an extra leading "t") that inserts  
time as 2:41 PM, I decided to create a new snippet with assigned  
name "dtstamp" (for date and time stamp), that has exactly the  
format you specified (leading day of week, and time using a 24 hour  
clock).  It took me less than a minute with the TextExpander  
Preferences pane (on my older version of this software) to create  
the snippet definition by going to the menu button beyond the  
content text area for snippets and selecting the formats I wanted  
under the date and time options. You even have date and time math  
options -- so if you're writing somebody to give their warranty  
period and want to automatically insert the expiration date for a  
fixed number of months or years from now, you can define a snippet  
that will include that calculation.


I use the TextExpander Touch app more on my iPod Touch, especially  
before Bluetooth keyboards were supported, and extensive typing on  
the virtual keyboard was more of an issue.  While you don't need to  
have TextExpander on your computer to use it on your iPhone or iPod  
Touch, if you do have the Mac version of TextExpander (with its  
expanded capabilities), you can sync its definitions to the iPhone  
or iPod Touch.


I've just checked that my snippet definition for "dtstamp" works on  
the iPod Touch:

%A, %B %e, %Y, %1H:%M

The TextExpander definitions will work in any app -- so if I wanted  
to type this in Pages, or mail, I could have the formatted date/ 
time stamp show up each time I typed the string.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 15, 2010, John Sanfilippo wrote:


Jon,

Thanks for replying.

I'd want a date/time stamp like this:

Monday, November 15, 2010, 14:41

Note the 24 hour clock.

I looked at date and time and text formats.

js

On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Well,  I don't believe there is a built in function for that, but I
believe a one could quickly set up an automation, and then enable it
as a text function to work in all standard text input fields.  Would
you want the standard Ddate as specified in the  
Internationalization,

or a special format.   It is quite amazing all the diffferent styles
of dates that are available in the International section of system
preferences.

Jon



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Re: Fun fun fun with Alex :)

[Carolyn Haas]

Hi Nic:
Well, I played with it for a while, and decided just a few were enough.  Some 
of the online listings could make one blush!:)
Anyhow, funny thing, I've never ever had Jaws do this, so if they're there, 
they must not be ones that appear often.
Anyhow, it was a fun toy for a bit.  
On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Or, you could find an online listing. I know there are lots of those, and 
> even emoticons that you've never even heard of. The only issue is that some 
> applications write smiley as :-), and other write it as :). I realize 
> VoiceOver will pronounce both of these, however, but that's just an example. 
> That requires more pronunciations added, but it's a fun time waster. I 
> suppose it may come in handy if someone is mad at you, but you don't know 
> what the angry smiley looks like.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> Jaws does actually have quite a few emoticons and abbreviations in the 
>> dictionary manager file for windows live messenger, so you could use that to 
>> find out what they are and add them to VO's pronunciation dictionary if 
>> you're so inclined.
>> 
>> Dannie
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 21:41, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone:
>>> Ok, I have always  been intrigued by the idea of emoticons, and I was just 
>>> blown away when I first heard Alex read the smiley emoticon.  Well, of 
>>> course there are tons of these.  But, as a blind person, I never had a clue 
>>> about how they were represented, nor did I care.  But, with Vo making me 
>>> laugh every time I encountered a smiley, I finally broke down and had to 
>>> find out how to teach him some new ones.
>>> So, I found a list of emoticons, and interacted with the text to learn how 
>>> differing ones are made.  Perhaps I have too much time on my hands, but 
>>> I've had a great time discovering the kinds of things, (some naughty and 
>>> some nice) that people can make out of simple text characters.  
>>> What we did today in class was to go into VO Utilities, speech and 
>>> pronunciation where you can add new ones.  Interesting, unless Alex is set 
>>> to recognize them, a blind user would never know they're even there!  So, 
>>> someone could send some very interesting messages and we'd be none the 
>>> wiser.:(
>>> 
>>> I don't know if Jaws has this capability, but I've never had my pc throw 
>>> smileys or other text-based representations at me in this way.  So, I 
>>> thought others might appreciate this as well.
>>> It would be interesting
>>> to see if others are using others besides smiley and frown.  
>>> 
>>> CarolynCarolyn Haas
>>> chaas0...@gmail.com
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>>> It's time to eat.
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Re: why the fuss over the MBA

[Carolyn Haas]

Hi MJ:
I have to say I'd agree with you.  I think sometimes some of us who are 
apple-crazy, (myself included) just don't want to miss anything that could be 
cooler faster, a better fit for our needs.
I have to say, I felt the fuss over the iPad was overblown, but now I covet 
one.  I can't see myself changing my mind about the Air when I'm quite happy 
with my mbp.
Take care
Carolyn
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Matthew J wrote:

> hi all,
> 
> I'm afraid I don't quite understand why the MBA is generating such hipe in 
> the news at the moment. I know its a little bit smaller and thinner, I accept 
> that and that it might be good for some users, but the fact of it having only 
> 1 USB port and no direct ethernet, plus 7  hrs of battery when the mbp bosts 
> 10? *headdesk* but I have a quick question.
> Wouldn't an mbp, just the stock 2.4 duo core one, with a solid state 128 gb 
> ssd come out of standby in say 3 seconds, just like the macbook air does? 
> That plus a longer battery life more ram and a very similar price point, even 
> factoring in the ssd upgrade? Since I know you can't put a 7200 rpm in an 
> mbp13 is why I chose the ssd because a 5400 yeah, its a bit slow, no doubt.
> 
> So basically, why haven't people thought of this? or is it really just a few 
> inches and a bit of thickness causing people to shell out for these?
> MJ
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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

[louie]

Thank you Dster.

On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Louis,
> 
> List price is $34.95 for the Mac (computer) version, but I bought an earlier 
> version on sale:
> 
> http://smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/
> 
> You can search for previous mentions to this app in the archives, in the 
> context of HTML coding and other items.  You can also use it to correct your 
> spelling of technical words.  Note that the iPhone version only expands in 
> apps that support TextExpander, but there are quite a few that do, since they 
> released the SDK for free use.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 09:41, louie wrote:
> 
>> Ester,
>> How much does this app cost?
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi John (and Jonathan),
>>> 
>>> This may be overkill for your needs, but this kind of customization is easy 
>>> to do with a software application called TextExpander from SmileOnMyMac.  
>>> TextExpander allows you to define your own custom snippets that get 
>>> expanded, optionally with the format and placement you want.  For example, 
>>> since the default samples already include a snippet definition, "ddate" 
>>> (date with an extra leading "d") that would insert the current date in the 
>>> format: November 16, 2010, and a "ttime" (time with an extra leading "t") 
>>> that inserts time as 2:41 PM, I decided to create a new snippet with 
>>> assigned name "dtstamp" (for date and time stamp), that has exactly the 
>>> format you specified (leading day of week, and time using a 24 hour clock). 
>>>  It took me less than a minute with the TextExpander Preferences pane (on 
>>> my older version of this software) to create the snippet definition by 
>>> going to the menu button beyond the content text area for snippets and 
>>> selecting the formats I wanted under the date and time options. You even 
>>> have date and time math options -- so if you're writing somebody to give 
>>> their warranty period and want to automatically insert the expiration date 
>>> for a fixed number of months or years from now, you can define a snippet 
>>> that will include that calculation.
>>> 
>>> I use the TextExpander Touch app more on my iPod Touch, especially before 
>>> Bluetooth keyboards were supported, and extensive typing on the virtual 
>>> keyboard was more of an issue.  While you don't need to have TextExpander 
>>> on your computer to use it on your iPhone or iPod Touch, if you do have the 
>>> Mac version of TextExpander (with its expanded capabilities), you can sync 
>>> its definitions to the iPhone or iPod Touch.
>>> 
>>> I've just checked that my snippet definition for "dtstamp" works on the 
>>> iPod Touch:
>>> %A, %B %e, %Y, %1H:%M
>>> 
>>> The TextExpander definitions will work in any app -- so if I wanted to type 
>>> this in Pages, or mail, I could have the formatted date/time stamp show up 
>>> each time I typed the string.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, John Sanfilippo wrote:
>>> 
 Jon,
 
 Thanks for replying.
 
 I'd want a date/time stamp like this:
 
 Monday, November 15, 2010, 14:41
 
 Note the 24 hour clock.
 
 I looked at date and time and text formats.
 
 js
 
 On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 
 Well,  I don't believe there is a built in function for that, but I
 believe a one could quickly set up an automation, and then enable it
 as a text function to work in all standard text input fields.  Would
 you want the standard Ddate as specified in the Internationalization,
 or a special format.   It is quite amazing all the diffferent styles
 of dates that are available in the International section of system
 preferences.
 
 Jon
 
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Re: why the fuss over the MBA

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

No Ethernet port though?  That'd be a serious Darrell breaker for me, using a 
cable *MODEM* with no WIFI option at the moment.


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Re: why the fuss over the MBA

[Matthew Campbell]

You could always buy the usb ethernet adapter but It'll cost you money plus a 
USB port.
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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

[Esther]

Hi Louie,

I recall that last year SmileOnMyMac put all their software on sale for 50% off on Black 
Friday with a coupon code of "SMILEONFRIDAY"  You could always get the trial 
download and wait to see whether TextExpander is discounted on the Friday after 
Thanksgiving by checking their Blog site for whether there's a code to purchase:
http://smileonmymac.net/blog/
But all their products come with a 90-day money back guarantee

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:05 AM, louie wrote:

Thank you Dster.

On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Esther wrote:


Hi Louis,

List price is $34.95 for the Mac (computer) version, but I bought an earlier 
version on sale:

http://smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/

You can search for previous mentions to this app in the archives, in the 
context of HTML coding and other items. You can also use it to correct your 
spelling of technical words. Note that the iPhone version only expands in apps 
that support TextExpander, but there are quite a few that do, since they 
released the SDK for free use.

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 16, 2010, at 09:41, louie wrote:


Ester,
How much does this app cost?



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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

[louie]

Esther,
Thank you for the tip.
Being I am on a tide budget I will pass on this one.

On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Louie,
> 
> I recall that last year SmileOnMyMac put all their software on sale for 50% 
> off on Black Friday with a coupon code of "SMILEONFRIDAY".  You could always 
> get the trial download and wait to see whether TextExpander is discounted on 
> the Friday after Thanksgiving by checking their Blog site for whether there's 
> a code to purchase:
> http://smileonmymac.net/blog/
> But all their products come with a 90-day money back guarantee.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:05 AM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Dster.
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Louis,
>> > 
>> > List price is $34.95 for the Mac (computer) version, but I bought an 
>> > earlier version on sale:
>> > 
>> > http://smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/
>> > 
>> > You can search for previous mentions to this app in the archives, in the 
>> > context of HTML coding and other items. You can also use it to correct 
>> > your spelling of technical words. Note that the iPhone version only 
>> > expands in apps that support TextExpander, but there are quite a few that 
>> > do, since they released the SDK for free use.
>> > 
>> > Cheers,
>> > 
>> > Esther
>> > 
>> > On Nov 16, 2010, at 09:41, louie wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Ester,
>> >> How much does this app cost?
>> >>
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Chat clients: Was Telnet

[Deb Lewis]

Hi!!

Still looking for chat client recommendations. I've always done this through
Telnet so that was my initial request here. Have received one recommendation
and do appreciate that. Also open to others. I know most people don't do IRC
these days, but I have occasion to do so & hoping to find a reasonable way.
Any additional resources appreciated. Since the Mac is unix under the hood I
would think there's an easy way to get this done. Just not familiar. 

 

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Re: Fun fun fun with Alex :)

[Teresa Cochran]

In other screen-readers, I took a big list of emoticons and just added them to 
the pronunciation dictionary. It was a little work, but easy . I was pleasantly 
surprised not to have to do so much of that with Alex and VO.

The funniest results I've had with adding manually were the names of the drives 
in windows. (C smile, D smile, etc), since I didn't feel like using them only 
in some applications and made them global. LOL

I'm remembering the fun a friend and I used to have making Dectalk say odd 
stuff, but now, speech synths are hard to fool.

Teresa
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Nic:
> Well, I played with it for a while, and decided just a few were enough.  Some 
> of the online listings could make one blush!:)
> Anyhow, funny thing, I've never ever had Jaws do this, so if they're there, 
> they must not be ones that appear often.
> Anyhow, it was a fun toy for a bit.  
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Or, you could find an online listing. I know there are lots of those, and 
>> even emoticons that you've never even heard of. The only issue is that some 
>> applications write smiley as :-), and other write it as :). I realize 
>> VoiceOver will pronounce both of these, however, but that's just an example. 
>> That requires more pronunciations added, but it's a fun time waster. I 
>> suppose it may come in handy if someone is mad at you, but you don't know 
>> what the angry smiley looks like.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> Facebook
>> Twitter
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
>> AIM: cincinster
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> Jaws does actually have quite a few emoticons and abbreviations in the 
>>> dictionary manager file for windows live messenger, so you could use that 
>>> to find out what they are and add them to VO's pronunciation dictionary if 
>>> you're so inclined.
>>> 
>>> Dannie
>>> 
>>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 21:41, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone:
 Ok, I have always  been intrigued by the idea of emoticons, and I was just 
 blown away when I first heard Alex read the smiley emoticon.  Well, of 
 course there are tons of these.  But, as a blind person, I never had a 
 clue about how they were represented, nor did I care.  But, with Vo making 
 me laugh every time I encountered a smiley, I finally broke down and had 
 to find out how to teach him some new ones.
 So, I found a list of emoticons, and interacted with the text to learn how 
 differing ones are made.  Perhaps I have too much time on my hands, but 
 I've had a great time discovering the kinds of things, (some naughty and 
 some nice) that people can make out of simple text characters.  
 What we did today in class was to go into VO Utilities, speech and 
 pronunciation where you can add new ones.  Interesting, unless Alex is set 
 to recognize them, a blind user would never know they're even there!  So, 
 someone could send some very interesting messages and we'd be none the 
 wiser.:(
 
 I don't know if Jaws has this capability, but I've never had my pc throw 
 smileys or other text-based representations at me in this way.  So, I 
 thought others might appreciate this as well.
 It would be interesting
 to see if others are using others besides smiley and frown.  
 
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join a windows network from my macbook.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello list.
I am trying to join my home network from my macbook pro. 
This is a windows based work group. 
I found how to do this, but all articles tell me to open the directory access 
on the mac. This item can be found under applications / utilities. However, I 
can't find it on my computer. 
I have searched in applications or utilities but no luck. 
Where is this directory access thing? 

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Re: Undo not working consistently

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jürgen,

I was so glad to get this note.  I was beginning to think I was alone 
with this problem.  The strange thing is my redo command z seems to work in 
some places but not in others.  I miss being able to use it as sometimes I am 
too quick to delete and want the message back.  Going to trash is not a easy 
solution for me. 

The only area this seems to be happening is in mail and usually when google is 
part of the picture. 

I'll keep looking for a solution but if anyone figures this out please let us 
know! 

Eric CAron 
 

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> Hi Eric,
> 
> I don't know what caused this issue but  noticed it as well.
> 
> Best J
> 
> Am 14.11.2010 um 19:24 schrieb Eric Caron:
> 
>> Hello List,
>> 
>>  Ever since I changed to iMap I have noticed that sometimes after I 
>> delete a message I can use command Z to bring it back and sometimes I can't. 
>> 
>>  Does anyone know why sometimes when I try to bring back a accidentally 
>> deleted message I can press Command Z and it comes back and other times I 
>> just hear a unhappy bleep and nothing happens? 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: iTunes?

[Jude DaShiell]

Once vlc is installed, provided you're not afraid of the terminal, it 
might be worth checking out what happens when you type cvlc followed by a 
particular site you'd like to hear.  That way there's no need messing 
around with checkboxes for some of vlc's functionality. On Tue, 9 Nov 
2010, Jason SW wrote:



Hi Chris,

Thanks a lot... I'll definitely take a look at that.

Jason.


On 11/8/2010 10:17 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

 Hi Jason,
 I can at least give you an answer for your first question. I use VLC media
 player. It can handle winamp playlists, and it can also be set as your
 default media application. It works very well, and is quite accessible.
 There are a few check boxes that aren't labeled, but one's an EQ, one puts
 it in full screen mode in case you're watching a movie with it.
 I hope that helps.

 Friendly,
 Chris

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>  Hello all,
> 
>  I'm pretty new to this list, but not new to owning a Mac. I bought my 
>  iMac in May, and since then I have also bought an iPod Touch 4G. 
>  However, I haven't been able to totally switch over to Mac. One of the 
>  very few reasons I haven't been able to stop using a Windows 7 VM 
>  constantly is iTunes. Compared to Winamp, iTunes just seems horribly 
>  bloated and complicated. For example, if I want to create a temporary 
>  playlist of only a certain subset of my music, movies or TV shows, I 
>  have to create a new playlist and add all of the files I want, whereas 
>  in Winamp, all I have to do is brows to the folder I want to listen to, 
>  turn shuffle play on if I want to, and play it.
>  The other thing is terminal applications. Especially when a lot of text 
>  comes through, for example if I'm trying to use TinTin++, whenever new 
>  text comes in, if Voiceover is already speaking, the speech is 
>  interrupted and the new text is spoken.
>  I'm just trying to figure out how to make this work, so any help anyone 
>  can give me is greatly appreciated.
> 
>  Thanks,

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Re: Undo not working consistently

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah the same is in mail for me too. I don't know what conditions it is 
reproducable in but I also am glad I'm not alone in this as well.

takecare.

S

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> Hi Jürgen,
> 
>I was so glad to get this note.  I was beginning to think I was alone with 
> this problem.  The strange thing is my redo command z seems to work in some 
> places but not in others.  I miss being able to use it as sometimes I am too 
> quick to delete and want the message back.  Going to trash is not a easy 
> solution for me. 
> 
> The only area this seems to be happening is in mail and usually when google 
> is part of the picture. 
> 
> I'll keep looking for a solution but if anyone figures this out please let us 
> know! 
> 
> Eric CAron 
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> I don't know what caused this issue but  noticed it as well.
>> 
>> Best J
>> 
>> Am 14.11.2010 um 19:24 schrieb Eric Caron:
>> 
>>> Hello List,
>>> 
>>>Ever since I changed to iMap I have noticed that sometimes after I 
>>> delete a message I can use command Z to bring it back and sometimes I 
>>> can't. 
>>> 
>>>Does anyone know why sometimes when I try to bring back a accidentally 
>>> deleted message I can press Command Z and it comes back and other times I 
>>> just hear a unhappy bleep and nothing happens? 
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
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Re: join a windows network from my macbook.

[Colin M]

Hi Nektarios!
In my applications folder under utilities there is a net work utility folder 
could this be what you are looking for!
hth Colin
On 16 Nov 2010, at 21:49, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello list.
> I am trying to join my home network from my macbook pro. 
> This is a windows based work group. 
> I found how to do this, but all articles tell me to open the directory access 
> on the mac. This item can be found under applications / utilities. However, I 
> can't find it on my computer. 
> I have searched in applications or utilities but no luck. 
> Where is this directory access thing? 
> 
> Nektarios.
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Re: Undo not working consistently

[Jonathan Cohn]

I am not sure of everything going on here, but there are a few things
that can be different about trash configurations...

1. There is the possiblility of deleteing in place in which case
command-L should show you the deleted messages still being in the
Inbox.
2. Mail could be using the google "GoogleMail/bin" mailbox for trash
In this case, the mail might get completely deleted by Google's empty
bin or Mails delete functions.
3. Mail could be using either an older GMail folder or a Mail created
folder for its trash folder.

It might even be possible to configure Mail to use a "Local" copy for
the trash folder.

If you have type 1 deletions, then viewing the deleted messages and
then selecting one with the VoiceOver cursor should allow you to
Un-delete it.

I believe the undo functionality in other cases might get disabled as
soon as you move the VO cursor, but you should be able to find your
message in the Trash with a bit of Sherlock  ah, Oops, wrong Apple
search metaphor... [well any way the search functionality in Either
Mail or the Finder]

On 16/11/2010, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> Yeah the same is in mail for me too. I don't know what conditions it is
> reproducable in but I also am glad I'm not alone in this as well.
>
> takecare.
>
> S
>
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 14:17, Eric Caron  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jürgen,
>>
>>I was so glad to get this note.  I was beginning to think I was alone
>> with this problem.  The strange thing is my redo command z seems to work
>> in some places but not in others.  I miss being able to use it as
>> sometimes I am too quick to delete and want the message back.  Going to
>> trash is not a easy solution for me.
>>
>> The only area this seems to be happening is in mail and usually when
>> google is part of the picture.
>>
>> I'll keep looking for a solution but if anyone figures this out please let
>> us know!
>>
>> Eric CAron
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> I don't know what caused this issue but  noticed it as well.
>>>
>>> Best J
>>>
>>> Am 14.11.2010 um 19:24 schrieb Eric Caron:
>>>
 Hello List,

Ever since I changed to iMap I have noticed that sometimes after I
 delete a message I can use command Z to bring it back and sometimes I
 can't.

Does anyone know why sometimes when I try to bring back a
 accidentally deleted message I can press Command Z and it comes back and
 other times I just hear a unhappy bleep and nothing happens?

 Eric Caron

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Re: help with bookmarks

[Laura Bratton]

Esther,
Thank you. I was able to   go to my library and recover  the files
that way.
Thanks again for all your help!
Laura

Esther wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
> Safari does support multiple levels of undo, so you can issue Command
> +Z more than once, but if you don't get back your deleted bookmarks
> folder after trying this, I'm at a loss.  You can either undo with the
> shortcut key sequence or by navigating to the Edit menu and arrowing
> down to the entry that will describe what action you will be undoing
> (e.g. "Undo delete bookmark") with your Command+Z.
>
> Do you have your bookmarks folder available on a backup or synced to
> an iDevice through MobileMe?  The Bookmarks are normally stored in a
> Preference file (or "plist") as Bookmarks.plist under the Library/
> Safari folder of your user account?  Old versions of the file would be
> on a Time Machine Backup or a cloned disk in that location.  By that I
> mean you could open Finder, do Comand-Shift-H to go to your Home
> directory, the press Command-Shift-G and either type or paste in:
> Library/Safari/
> into the dialogue box and then press return.  Once your are in the
> Library/Safari folder for your user account you would go to
> Bookmarks.plist file.
>
> If you have MobileMe and your bookmarks were synced to another device,
> you could recover the folder that way.  Alternatively, if you visited
> the sites that you've deleted you might be able t o examine your
> Safari History and recognize the sites in question.
>
> I'm sorry that I don't have a better answer.  I tend to use the
> keyboard shortcuts myself, so I thought giving Command+Z was the
> easiest way to undo a deletion,  Maybe I should have told you to go to
> the Edit menu on the Safari menu bar and arrow down to the menu entry
> for "Undo remove Bookmark" (or Bookmark folder).
>
> Do you have information on the folder  somewhere else?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, Laura Bratton wrote:
>
> > Esther,
> > Thank you. I pressed command C rather than command Z so that messed up
> > the last undue. Is there anything else that I can  do to get the
> > bookmarks back?
> > Thanks,
> > laura
> >
> > Esther wrote:
> >> Hi Laura,
> >>
> >> Try using Command+Z to undo your last action in the Safari Bookmarks
> >> menu.  (These are options in the Edit menu of the Safari menu bar:
> >> Command+Z is undo, and Command+Shift+Z will redo, reversing the
> >> undo.)  You should be able to undo your delete.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Esther
> >>
> >> On Nov 14, 2010, Laura Bratton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> I pressed the delete key on a folder in my bookmarks which I didn't
> >>> mean to do! I went to my trash folder and it is not there. How  do I
> >>> recover the folder to my bookmarks?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Laura
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Sound Hound question

[Eric Caron]

Sound Hound Users,
Sound Hound is a music identification app on the iPhone.

When I first tried sound Hound I seemed to be able to swipe around to 
find each item.  I then tried to purchase the program within the app.  It 
didn't seem to work so I purchased it from the App store.  I ended up being 
billed for both.  Apple fixed that but from that point on when I used Sound 
Hound I had to drag my finger around to find things and more items seemed 
unlabeled.

Did I somehow end up with a different version?  This happened right 
when a update came out. 

So, do others need to slide around to access items or do you just swipe to each 
thing? 

I do love the app.

Oh, also wonder why sometimes the album date reades something like 1973 to 1911 
  or 1990 to 1912.  The first year is usually correct as the album date but I 
don't know what the other number means.

Sound Hound tips wanted? 

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Re: Chat clients: Was Telnet

[Pete Nalda]

did you see my recommendation of Lime Chat?

On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Deb Lewis wrote:

> Hi!!
> Still looking for chat client recommendations. I’ve always done this through 
> Telnet so that was my initial request here. Have received one recommendation 
> and do appreciate that. Also open to others. I know most people don’t do IRC 
> these days, but I have occasion to do so & hoping to find a reasonable way. 
> Any additional resources appreciated. Since the Mac is unix under the hood I 
> would think there’s an easy way to get this done. Just not familiar.
>  
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RE: Chat clients: Was Telnet

[Deb Lewis]

Yes I did, thanks. Also looking into a couple of others.

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did you see my recommendation of Lime Chat?

On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Deb Lewis wrote:

> Hi!!
> Still looking for chat client recommendations. I've always done this
through Telnet so that was my initial request here. Have received one
recommendation and do appreciate that. Also open to others. I know most
people don't do IRC these days, but I have occasion to do so & hoping to
find a reasonable way. Any additional resources appreciated. Since the Mac
is unix under the hood I would think there's an easy way to get this done.
Just not familiar.
>  
> Deb
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

[Mike Arrigo]

terminal is the unix shell prompt.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Transmit works great.  I don't know what you guys mean by terminal.
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> Yeah the is no upolad in safari. Yo will need to use trasnmit or terminal.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> I am trying to do this with safari.  There is no upload in any of safari 
>> menus that I can find.
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> Wht program are you using. Navagate to the folder where you rile is then 
>> interact witht he list and choose upload and it should be there when the 
>> upload finishes.
>> 
>> S
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
>>> 
>>> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there 
>>> just fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the 
>>> water.  I tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the 
>>> location in which I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I 
>>> get is a beep.  This is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do 
>>> it with Mac?
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
>>> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
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Re: macbook pro battery.

[Mike Arrigo]

Go into the utilities folder and open system profiler. That will give you all 
the info about your computer.
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> Hello. 
> How can I tel which macbook model I have? Is it possible that I purchased an 
> earlier model? 
> It reports core2 duo 2.66 GHZ, 4 GB of ram and 320 GB hard drive. What else 
> should I look for, to determine my model? 
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I can get about 5 hours out of it buti have the older model.
>> 
>> S
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. 
>>> They say up to 10 hours. 
>>> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
>>> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
>>> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain 
>>> function of voice over help? 
>>> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
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Re: office for the mack vs i works:

[Mike Arrigo]

Go with iwork, Microsoft Office is not voice over accessible.
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> 
> hi everyone!,
> i wanted to know  does it matter really  if you have either i-works but not 
> office for the mb pro or do you need both to operate  your  mb pro?
> chenelle
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Re: office for the mack vs i works:

[Mike Arrigo]

You could also try open office which is free.
On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Chenelle,
> 
> Unfortunately, Office for Mac is not accessible to VO users so there really 
> is no choice.
> 
> In any case, iWork09 is very good and can read and produce documents in the 
> Office formats. iWork is also considerably cheaper than Office.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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> 
>> 
>> hi everyone!,
>> i wanted to know  does it matter really  if you have either i-works but not 
>> office for the mb pro or do you need both to operate  your  mb pro?
>> chenelle
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Re: join a windows network from my macbook.

[Mike Arrigo]

You shouldn't need to use this to set the work group. To do this, open network 
preferences, and click advanced. Click the wins tab, here you can indicate the 
name of your work group.
On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello list.
> I am trying to join my home network from my macbook pro. 
> This is a windows based work group. 
> I found how to do this, but all articles tell me to open the directory access 
> on the mac. This item can be found under applications / utilities. However, I 
> can't find it on my computer. 
> I have searched in applications or utilities but no luck. 
> Where is this directory access thing? 
> 
> Nektarios.
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tintin

[May McDonald]

Hey there, if anyone is using Tintin with no problems, can you please contact 
me off list and help me set it up? I've been pulling my hair out trying to get 
it to work right. Thanks for any and all help.

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Re: join a windows network from my macbook.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Ok, I did that. Now, how do I access my network resources? The list under 
network is still empty.
Nektarios.

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> You shouldn't need to use this to set the work group. To do this, open 
> network preferences, and click advanced. Click the wins tab, here you can 
> indicate the name of your work group.
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hello list.
>> I am trying to join my home network from my macbook pro. 
>> This is a windows based work group. 
>> I found how to do this, but all articles tell me to open the directory 
>> access on the mac. This item can be found under applications / utilities. 
>> However, I can't find it on my computer. 
>> I have searched in applications or utilities but no luck. 
>> Where is this directory access thing? 
>> 
>> Nektarios.
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Oh boy

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 inch 
iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount the iMac on 
a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!


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Re: macbook pro battery.

[Les Kriegler]

Mike, on my desktop, the System Profiler icon is accessible, so I can go in 
there with minimal keystrokes.  When on the list of choices, I hit letter P 
until getting to the Power option, open it, tab once and then the battery 
information is available on that screen.  I've turned down the brightness to 0% 
and it will be interesting to see how much the battery life improves.  Also, it 
appears that on my MBP, the brightness setting is retained when re-starting the 
Mac.

Les

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Re: Oh boy

[Joshua Loya]

Sounds swet!
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 inch 
> iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount the iMac 
> on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!
> 
> 
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uploading songs to youtube using quicktime

[chad baker]

Hi i'm trying to upload my homemade songs to youtube using quicktime.
under the share menu all the share features are dimmed.
any suggestions?
also is there any alternative to upload songs to youtube i have a account.
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Re: uploading songs to youtube using quicktime

[Eric Oyen]

not sure you can upload just audio. I think it must be a video format. you can 
always take a picture, set it as your still and have iMovie make a video from 
it.

-Eric

On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:14 PM, chad baker wrote:

> Hi i'm trying to upload my homemade songs to youtube using quicktime.
> under the share menu all the share features are dimmed.
> any suggestions?
> also is there any alternative to upload songs to youtube i have a account.
> thanks
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Re: Oh boy

[Teresa Cochran]

ah, so many toys, so little money. :)

Teresa
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Sounds swet!
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 inch 
>> iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount the iMac 
>> on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!
>> 
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Re: join a windows network from my macbook.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Nektarios,

In snow Leopard, the Directory Utility is within the Accounts Preference of the 
system Preference.  to access it, do the following:

1.  go to System Preferences.
2.  Select the Accounts System Pref.
3.  Navigate to the Accounts, Groups and Login Options Table one item to the 
right of the Toolbar.
4.  Interact With it.
5.  Select the Login Options, last item at the bottom of the table.
6.  Stop Interacting With the Table.
7.  Navigate to the Join button and press it.

>From this point, you can simply press the Add button and enter the name of the 
>domain you wish to add your computer to.  The MacOS will determine what kind 
>of directory it is and configure appropriately.

Otherwise, locate the "Open Directory Utility" button and choose your directory 
manually from the choices.

HTH.

Later...


On 2010-11-16, at 2:49 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Nektarios

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Re: accessible version of audacity

[Vaughn Bennison]

If you follow the link to the "I can work this thing" page, it shows up and 
empty directory.  Hopefully it'll be fixed

Vaughn.
On 16/11/2010, at 11:23 AM, Courtney Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> I can't find the exact link to download it when it says click here, nothing 
> happens.
> Courtney
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chad from another list I'm on!
>> 
>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi i'm looking for the accessible version of audacity can't find it i 
>>> googled it and couldn't find it.
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Re: Oh boy

[ISAAC OBIE]

that 27 inch imac on the wall sounds great! then it would be nice if it had 
a cd changer so one wouldn't have to reach across the desk to change the 
cd's. Now that would be great!

And I wonder why the Nano instead of the tpuch?
Isaac
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:06 PM
Subject: Oh boy


I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 
inch iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount 
the iMac on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!



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Re: Oh boy

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

It would make a good intertaiment center for Donna. The speakers that are built 
in are wonderful.

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Sounds swet!
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 inch 
>> iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount the iMac 
>> on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!
>> 
>> 
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Re: Oh boy

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Yeah, no kidden! I could easly come out with a lot of purchases. LOL 
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On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> ah, so many toys, so little money. :)
> 
> Teresa
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Sounds swet!
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> 
>>> I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 
>>> inch iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount 
>>> the iMac on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sarai Bucciarelli
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>>> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
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Re: Oh boy

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I was told you could hook up the iMac to a Bose system, which does have a cd 
changer. I have an iPhone. I'd like a nano to use on the treadmill. I'm worried 
about dropping the phone, and the nano has a clip on the back.
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On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:32 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote:

> that 27 inch imac on the wall sounds great! then it would be nice if it had a 
> cd changer so one wouldn't have to reach across the desk to change the cd's. 
> Now that would be great!
> And I wonder why the Nano instead of the tpuch?
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:06 PM
> Subject: Oh boy
> 
> 
>> I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 inch 
>> iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount the iMac 
>> on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad!
>> 
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