Isuu.com articles Accessible?

[Teresa Cochran]

Has anyone tried reading the articles presented on this website? I'm not sure 
if they're flash or not. I have a partially-sighted friend that says VO will 
read them, but whenever I go to one, I get "one error opening page" and no text 
resembling the body of an article. You can pick any publication and article; I 
tried five at random, so I'm pretty sure that'll work.

Thanks for any help,
Teresa

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Re: Help forcing Mac to recognize a USB device

[Jude DaShiell]

On some systems, a command called update-usb-ids exists and has to be run 
by root in terminal mode.  That command when run goes out to a web site 
and gets a current copy of a file that has all industry-standard usb ids 
information in it.  If the manufacturer of the device hasn't got their 
information into that file, then they're beyond industry standards and 
maybe best not recognized.  Once that file gets updated on systems usually 
more usb devices end up working suddenly.On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Carolyn 
wrote:



Hi Eric:
Probably that power issue someone else mentioned.  Not sure how else to help.  
But you might even try taking it to the apple store.  Get a genius appointment, 
and see if they can help you get it to link.
Good luck.

Carolyn
 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Caron
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Help forcing Mac to recognize a USB device


 Carolyn and others,

 I'm still looking for ideas.  I have the unit attached directly to the 
computer USB port not a hub.  I went to disk utilities and was pleased to see 
both the internal memory and SD card were in the table.  I selected one of 
these and tried to select Mount, but Mount was dimmed.  Next thing I knew the 
computer told me the Drive was ejected incorrectly and they disappeared from 
the table.

 I tried reconnecting the unit but now it is not recognized in the table.  So 
now what?

 When I first hooked up the unit about four days ago it was not reliable but 
would stay connected for 10 or 15 minutes.  Now, almost nothing.

 Thanks again for the disk utility tip and if anyone else has ideas I'd be 
grateful.
 By the way, I did ask the dealer, Independent Living Aids for help, but 
nothing yet.  Maybe they will still come through.

 eric Caron


 LLOn Sep 10, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Carolyn wrote:

 > Hi eric:
 > You can indeed probably do this.  It can be done by going into disk utility.  You'll 
want to find that and look for the option to "mount."  (strange name for an 
interface) but basically it allows you to connect devices that are going unrecognized.  I 
fixed my victor stream quite accidentally with about as much of a clue as that.  Good luck.
 >
 > Carolyn
 >
 > On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 >
 >> Dear list,
 >>
 >> I recently purchased a Milestone 312, developed by  BONES INC.  I have a 
love hate relationship with this device.  It is a USB device that preforms many 
functions including voice recording, general recording, Daisy book reading, clock, FM 
radio, agenda, and labeling.  It uses a SD card and internal memory.  My current 
problem is that when I plug the USB cable into the Mac it usually does nothing at 
all.  A few times when I first attached it it did recognize the SD Card and the 
internal memory as two separate volumes.  When recognized I  navigate them in the 
finder.  But most of the time either the usb connection is ignored or it is 
recognized and then almost immediately I get the message that the device was ejected 
incorrectly.
 >>
 >>
 >> Can anyone help me have the Mac recognize the USB device and not eject it 
automatically?  I think the device is treated like a card reader and possibly others 
have found ways to force these devices to be recognized when they don't initially 
show up.
 >> Help and advice wanted.
 >>
 >> Eric Caron
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opening something.

[Ian McNamara]

hi i have been trying to open ogg files with vlc media player but when i go to 
open on the menu and it asks me to choose the application i want to open the 
file with vlc media player does not come up. 

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Re: exporting paswords from macbook to iphone

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

Yes if we can get 1password to work, but I have not succeeded in it yet. I will 
keep you informed. The 1password has a version for mac and one for the IPhone.

Best regards Annie.
On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> No. you need to type that in by hand. or create a configuration profile with 
> the iphone config utlity whic you can download from apple.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:16 PM, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I have my iphone4 finally ;` and it works great, sometimes a litle bit 
>> difficult.
>> 
>> I have problems to imput passwords for wireless networks...
>> 
>> Is there a possibility to import my passwords from my macbook to my iphone?
>> 
>> I know, the passwords are saved in /users/william/library/keychains/
>> But, I see no way to import this file in my iphone.
>> Also, I don't have a mobile me account.
>> 
>> Any help is very welcome.
>> 
>> best regards,
>> William 
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radio station programs

[chad baker]

Hi is there any programs that has shoutcast streams or no?
I tried radio shift and some of the buttons were unlabeled.

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While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.

It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link to 
open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive the 
news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news instead 
just the half of it.
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Re: Would it be great with a braille list

[erik burggraaf]

Hi,  Why not just group messages by thread and de-clutter your inbox?

Best,

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On 2010-09-10, at 6:07 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> This message has been send to both macvisionaries and viphone, sorry that you 
> get it twice some of you.
> 
> Would it be an idea with a seperate list for braille problems for all apples 
> products. My reason for suggesting it is that mails can easily be deleted by 
> a mistake when we get so many, as we do on these two lists. If we a have a 
> seperate list, we could make a rule for sorting post. Let me know what you 
> think.
> 
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Ricardo Walker]

I think they want to create traffic on the site.  Get that $$. :)
On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
> instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
> read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link 
> to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive 
> the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news 
> instead just the half of it.
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
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> Website:
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Donna Goodin]

I definitely agree.
Donna
On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
> instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
> read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link 
> to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive 
> the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news 
> instead just the half of it.
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
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> Website:
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Most if not all of us would like this to happen and it's been mentioned before.
However, the powers that be have clearly stated that it won't happen
under the pretense that it's beneficial to dialup users if only part
of the story was included.
No comment.

On 11/09/2010, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> I think they want to create traffic on the site.  Get that $$. :)
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the
>> list instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty
>> annoying to read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to
>> click the link to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really
>> like to receive the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get
>> the whole news instead just the half of it.
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Søren.

I agree.

Best regards Annie.
On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
> instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
> read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link 
> to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive 
> the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news 
> instead just the half of it.
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Søren Jensen]

I see it's an issue for dialup users if they pay for each mb they send and 
receive. I didn't thought anyone used dialup connections anymore. f it really 
does matter for dialup users if the maccessibility news is send like a preview 
or if the whole news is being send, the news could be send in plane text so we 
just have to copy the links into the webbrowser. If I was on a dialup 
connection, I wouldn't subscribe to lists like this cause of the mount of 
trafic each day. If dialup users use Imap in their mail client, it won't make 
any difference because Imap doesn't download the mails to the computer.
I must say I don't see the reason for not sending the whole news out on the 
list. If dialup users is the reason, I'll gladly come up with more salutions.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
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Den Sep 11, 2010 kl. 2:21 PM skrev Ben Mustill-Rose:

> Most if not all of us would like this to happen and it's been mentioned 
> before.
> However, the powers that be have clearly stated that it won't happen
> under the pretense that it's beneficial to dialup users if only part
> of the story was included.
> No comment.
> 
> On 11/09/2010, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> I think they want to create traffic on the site.  Get that $$. :)
>> On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the
>>> list instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty
>>> annoying to read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to
>>> click the link to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really
>>> like to receive the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get
>>> the whole news instead just the half of it.
>>> Best regards
>>> Søren Jensen
>>> Mail & MSN:
>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Donna Goodin]

I personally subscribe to the theory that they're trying to get traffic to 
their site.
Donna
On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> I see it's an issue for dialup users if they pay for each mb they send and 
> receive. I didn't thought anyone used dialup connections anymore. f it really 
> does matter for dialup users if the maccessibility news is send like a 
> preview or if the whole news is being send, the news could be send in plane 
> text so we just have to copy the links into the webbrowser. If I was on a 
> dialup connection, I wouldn't subscribe to lists like this cause of the mount 
> of trafic each day. If dialup users use Imap in their mail client, it won't 
> make any difference because Imap doesn't download the mails to the computer.
> I must say I don't see the reason for not sending the whole news out on the 
> list. If dialup users is the reason, I'll gladly come up with more salutions.
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> Den Sep 11, 2010 kl. 2:21 PM skrev Ben Mustill-Rose:
> 
>> Most if not all of us would like this to happen and it's been mentioned 
>> before.
>> However, the powers that be have clearly stated that it won't happen
>> under the pretense that it's beneficial to dialup users if only part
>> of the story was included.
>> No comment.
>> 
>> On 11/09/2010, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> I think they want to create traffic on the site.  Get that $$. :)
>>> On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the
 list instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty
 annoying to read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to
 click the link to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really
 like to receive the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get
 the whole news instead just the half of it.
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 Website:
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Re: Any Solid State Drive users here?

[Kevin Shaw]

I have a 256 gig drive in my Macbook Pro and it's been completely stable for 
the past year and 2 months. I imagine Apple will reveal a 1 TB SSD soon. And we 
will all drool and say we want one.

Kevin

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Re: Any Solid State Drive users here?

[Justin Thornton]

scott
where did you get your ssd from
 I would like more info on it
and wonder if they have a smaller version
On Sep 10, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I have the 500GB SSD drive in my Macbook Pro and love it.  Extremely fast 
> (especially on reads) and very stable so far.
> 
> Only been using it for 2 - 3 weeks though.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Folks - If you have an SSD (solid state hard drive) in your Mac, would you 
>> mind telling me about your experience with the performance of VoiceOver and 
>> other day-to-day functions? I'm in the market for a larger hard drive for my 
>> macbook and am considering an SSD or maybe purchasing a new or refurbished 
>> Mac with an SSD.
>> 
>> TIA,
>> Bryan
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Ian McNamara]

yes i agree if that is possible. 

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Re: opening something.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ian,

In the Open With menu, at the bottom, you'll find Other…. If you press Return 
on Other, you'll be in a dialogue box where you can browse your Applications 
folder and select the one you want.

Cheers,

Anne

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> hi i have been trying to open ogg files with vlc media player but when i go 
> to open on the menu and it asks me to choose the application i want to open 
> the file with vlc media player does not come up. 
> 
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I've lost the post! Help!

[Chris Snyder]

Hi folks,
I've lost the post I saved about how to select multiple non-sequential items in 
a folder. I searched for some terms in the archive, but it didn't come up with 
it.
Also, some how, I seem to have suddenly sorted one of my mail boxes in reverse 
order with the oldest message at the bottom of the box! I'm just having a day 
it seems. :) Any help will get you free virtual chocolates and a huge thank you!
Friendly,
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regarding solid state harddrives

[Matthew Johnson]

anyone not quite willing to pull up the cash for the solid state 
harddrive, but who wants a bit of a bang in performance in macbook and 
macbook pro, check out the Seagate Momentus XT series, which fuse a 7200 
rpm 2.5 sata drive with 4 gb of ssd for the most use applications, makes 
for quite the upgrade. I'm getting one :d so if anyone has used these, I 
would love to hear your experiences. 



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Re: I've lost the post! Help!

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Chris,

1.  To select non-contiguous items:

• Navigate to the first item.
• Turn off cursor tracking (VO-shift-f3)
• Navigate to the next item you wish to select.
• Press VO-cmd-space.
• Repeat the above steps to select each of the next items.
• Press cmd-c to Copy or whatever combination performs your desired task.
• Don't forget to turn cursor tracking back on. (VO-shift-f3 again)

2.  To change the sort order within the Messages table:

• Interact with the Messages table in your desired mailbox.
• Navigate to the Date Received column.
• Press VO-shift-back slash to toggle between sorting up or down the specific 
column.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2010-09-11, at 9:53 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I've lost the post I saved about how to select multiple non-sequential items 
> in a folder. I searched for some terms in the archive, but it didn't come up 
> with it.
> Also, some how, I seem to have suddenly sorted one of my mail boxes in 
> reverse order with the oldest message at the bottom of the box! I'm just 
> having a day it seems. :) Any help will get you free virtual chocolates and a 
> huge thank you!
> Friendly,
> Chris
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noncontiguous selecting, Re: I've lost the post! Help!

[John Sanfilippo]

Hi,

Not sure this is what you want but here goes:
1, select the first of your files,
2, interact with the list,
3, press control option shift f3 to turn cursor tracking off,
4, vo arrow to the next item of interest,
5 press vo command space to select it,
Continue with steps 4 and 5 untill all files of interest are selected.
You may press vo f6 to hear what is selected.
6, vo shift f3 to put cursor tracking on,
7, stop interacting with the list press control option shift up arrow.
Act on the selection as desired.
This thanks to Barefoot Ray.



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Hi folks,
I've lost the post I saved about how to select multiple non-sequential items in 
a folder. I searched for some terms in the archive, but it didn't come up with 
it.
Also, some how, I seem to have suddenly sorted one of my mail boxes in reverse 
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it seems. :) Any help will get you free virtual chocolates and a huge thank you!
Friendly,
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Sarah Alawami]

No it's a rss feed. you can't read a whole rss feed on the list in an email.

I don't think?
On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> I think they want to create traffic on the site.  Get that $$. :)
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
>> instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
>> read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link 
>> to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive 
>> the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news 
>> instead just the half of it.
>> Best regards
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Re: Help forcing Mac to recognize a USB device

[Eric Caron]

Dear List,

I have received great advice from this and one other list.   
I'm pretty sure at this point it is the device and not the Mac.  And I suspect 
there is nothing I can do at this end.

Below is a summery of what I tried based on list suggestions.  Maybe this will 
be useful to others in the future with related USB difficulty.



I tried the Milestone 312 on my old XP machine and it worked fine.
When I plug it in both the internal memory and SD card are recognized and fully 
available. 
I then tried again on the Mac, sometimes absolutely nothing happens but 
occasionally the SD card will show up. 
When the card shows up The finder acts strangely.  When I move through the 
browser it often gets locked up saying finder busy over and over. 
The usual result is that it ends by saying Device ejected.
I was able one time to get to the utilities table and did notice that the one 
category called Status was noted as unsupported. 

I did try using another SD card and even no SD card but the results were the 
same.
I also tried both USB ports on my Mac.

I also tried the original SD card in a external card reader on the Mac and it 
worked correctly. 

I really appreciate all this trouble shooting advice.  It may not have solved 
this problem but I'm sure it will be useful in future related situations. 

I'd still appreciate ideas.  But, I'm suspecting I will need to negotiate a 
return with Independent Living Aids, USA.

If this community of tech savvy experienced users of macs and adaptive 
equipment can't solve the issue then it is very likely a faulty device. 

I'm told BONES has been contacted and is working on it, but I can't imagine 
what they can do for  me that this group has not all ready suggested.

Thank you all.

Eric Caron 
On Sep 11, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

>  Eric, this sounds like a faulty usb connector to me.
> 
> I and a friend had identical thumb drives and I used both on my Mac. Mine 
> would consistently be recognized and stay that way until I ejected it. 
> However, his would not. It would either not be recognized, or be prematurely 
> disconnected with no warning at all, which would bring up the exact same 
> dialogue you mention.
> 
> The problem with his drive got worse and worse until it was unusable on 
> either a Mac or Windows system, so this might be something to check into…
> 
> HTH and hope you and yours have a lovely weekend!…
> 
> Smiles,
> 
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> On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
> Carolyn and others,
> 
>   I'm still looking for ideas.  I have the unit attached directly to the 
> computer USB port not a hub.  I went to disk utilities and was pleased to see 
> both the internal memory and SD card were in the table.  I selected one of 
> these and tried to select Mount, but Mount was dimmed.  Next thing I knew the 
> computer told me the Drive was ejected incorrectly and they disappeared from 
> the table. 
> 
> I tried reconnecting the unit but now it is not recognized in the table.  So 
> now what?  
> 
> When I first hooked up the unit about four days ago it was not reliable but 
> would stay connected for 10 or 15 minutes.  Now, almost nothing. 
> 
> Thanks again for the disk utility tip and if anyone else has ideas I'd be 
> grateful.
> By the way, I did ask the dealer, Independent Living Aids for help, but 
> nothing yet.  Maybe they will still come through.
> 
> eric Caron 
> 
> 
> LLOn Sep 10, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
>> Hi eric:
>> You can indeed probably do this.  It can be done by going into disk utility. 
>>  You'll want to find that and look for the option to "mount."  (strange name 
>> for an interface) but basically it allows you to connect devices that are 
>> going unrecognized.  I fixed my victor stream quite accidentally with about 
>> as much of a clue as that.  Good luck.
>> 
>> Carolyn
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear list,
>>> 
>>> I recently purchased a Milestone 312, developed by  BONES INC.  I have 
>>> a love hate relationship with this device.  It is a USB device that 
>>> preforms many functions including voice recording, general recording, Daisy 
>>> book reading, clock, FM radio, agenda, and labeling.  It uses a SD card and 
>>> internal memory.  My current problem is that when I plug the USB cable into 
>>> the Mac it usually does nothing at all.  A few times when I first attached 
>>> it it did recognize the SD Card and the internal memory as two separate 
>>> volumes.  When recognized I  navigate them in the finder.  But most of the 
>>> time either the usb connection is ignored or it is recognized and then 
>>> almost immediately I get the message that the device was ejected 
>>> incorrectly. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help me have the Mac recognize the USB device and not eject it 
>>> automatically?  I 

where are my created mailboxes?

[John Sanfilippo]

Hello,

I hope I have the right list. I've always been replying, rarely initiating a 
thread.

I recently created mailboxes, using the on my mac option. So, I suppose these 
mailbox folders are somewhere where I can access them, in or out of mail.

The thing is, I cannot find them and I do not find any thing in mail which 
offers a way, certainly  no quick way, of getting and viewing the contents of 
these folders. Rather puzzled.

Help appreciated.
js

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Re: where are my created mailboxes?

[Colin M]

Hi John!
Trust me I'm no expert, but I saw in the menu bar [ vo+m ] under mailboxes hide 
mailboxes!
With the command stroke [ command+shift+m ] which hides mailboxes so I was 
wondering if your mailboxes might be hidden!
If I'm wrong sorry!
Yours doubtfully Colin :-]
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> Hello,
> 
> I hope I have the right list. I've always been replying, rarely initiating a 
> thread.
> 
> I recently created mailboxes, using the on my mac option. So, I suppose these 
> mailbox folders are somewhere where I can access them, in or out of mail.
> 
> The thing is, I cannot find them and I do not find any thing in mail which 
> offers a way, certainly  no quick way, of getting and viewing the contents of 
> these folders. Rather puzzled.
> 
> Help appreciated.
> js
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Unintentional Aliases and getting rid of them

[Michael Busboom]

Hi.

Sometimes, apparently only when I am in Finder, I'm accidentally entering a 
keyboard combination that is generating Aliases to other things in my Finder 
Window.

So here are my questions:

1.  What keyboard combination creates Aliases and does this keyboard 
combination create them, even if one isn't in Finder?

2.  Why can't I seem to delete them?  

I may be creating Aliases from outside Finder; I just don't really know for 
sure.

Thanks for the enlightenment!

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jawbone icon hero

[Yuma Decaux]

So i got it, the retail person told me it was a best seller. I really like it. 
Sexy voice telling me the jawbone is ready, small and takes 55 minutes to 
completely charge, distinctively easy to use, etc etc.


I'm wondering when they will make a pen clip sized bluetooth stereo headset so 
we can look like the 5th element's diplomatic core :)





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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Carolyn]

Hi Soren:
I couldn't agree with you more.  I'm terrible at getting links to work on the 
Mac as it is.  So, I'm far less inclined to see what they actually have to say 
if it isn't in the first couple of sentences.

Carolyn
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  From: Søren Jensen 
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  Subject: While sending Maccessibility news on the list


  Hi.

  It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link to 
open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive the 
news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news instead 
just the half of it.
  Best regards
  Søren Jensen
  Mail & MSN:
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  Website:
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Re: Unintentional Aliases and getting rid of them

[Colin M]

Hi Michael!
The command to make aliases is [ command+l ] I do not know why you would be 
using that command unless you think it does something else!
Or you are hitting it by mistake!
Why you can not delete them I do not know, I thought you just sat on it and 
pressed delete!
hth Colin
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> Hi.
> 
> Sometimes, apparently only when I am in Finder, I'm accidentally entering a 
> keyboard combination that is generating Aliases to other things in my Finder 
> Window.
> 
> So here are my questions:
> 
> 1.  What keyboard combination creates Aliases and does this keyboard 
> combination create them, even if one isn't in Finder?
> 
> 2.  Why can't I seem to delete them?  
> 
> I may be creating Aliases from outside Finder; I just don't really know for 
> sure.
> 
> Thanks for the enlightenment!
> 
> Mike
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Agreed.
On 11 Sep 2010, at 12:47, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
> instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
> read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link 
> to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive 
> the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news 
> instead just the half of it.
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Re: Pages Podcast

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Paul,

I learned something new again from you. I didn't know you could work in full 
screen mode in Pages. Hmm, I'll have to try that. I'd love to hear your podcast.

Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!


On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> You're welcome. It might be an easy thing to miss. As I do have some useable 
> vision, I just kept scanning around the screen with my 16x magnification 
> until I found it, then by doing VO+F typed in "Itunes" to see if VO could see 
> it as well and it did.  It's the first thing I'll check when I go to 
> someones' podcast page.
> 
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> 
>> Oh wow I didn't know that. THanks for that. I really appreciate it. I learn 
>> something new everyday :).
>> 
>> Musically,
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> There's an itunes banner at the bottom right hand side of the page.  You 
>>> can also do VO+F and type in iTunes and it'll take you right to the 
>>> button/banner.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Paul Hunt wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Allison. I tried to subscribe to your podcast. I went to ITunes and 
 added http://gwenna.podbean.com but the download failed. Is there another 
 link to use when subscribing with ITunes?
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino
 Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:21 PM
 To: Mac Visionaries
 Subject: Pages Podcast
 
 Hi all,
 
 This is in no way an attempt to promote my podcast, but I just did one on 
 Pages. Since there  was some talk about the advantages and disadvantages 
 of Pages I thought I'd do a little demo. This is not a comprehensive demo, 
 and if you have suggestions on how to improve or things you'd like me to 
 demo, please feel free to drop them my way. THe link is:
 http://gwenna.podbean.com
 
 Have a great day.
 
 Musically,
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Re: where are my created mailboxes?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi.

If you stop interacting with messages, then vo left arrow to where it says mail 
boxes.  Interact with VO shift down arrow, scroll down, and you should see your 
folders.  Once you pick the desired folder, stop interacting with vo shift up 
arrow.  Then VO right and you should find the folder you want.

Kawal.
On 11 Sep 2010, at 17:27, John Sanfilippo wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I hope I have the right list. I've always been replying, rarely initiating a 
> thread.
> 
> I recently created mailboxes, using the on my mac option. So, I suppose these 
> mailbox folders are somewhere where I can access them, in or out of mail.
> 
> The thing is, I cannot find them and I do not find any thing in mail which 
> offers a way, certainly  no quick way, of getting and viewing the contents of 
> these folders. Rather puzzled.
> 
> Help appreciated.
> js
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Reading messages in threads

[Linda Adams]

Hi,

I've recently switched to reading messages from this list in the thread format 
and am liking the way it works.  I have 2 questions.  If there are messages 
left on a thread and I don't need/want to read the remaining messages, is there 
a quicker way to stop reading the thread or do I have to press command W until 
they are all closed?  

Also, I think  I remember my next question being posted but don't remember the 
answer.  I've accidentally closed the main window so the message table no 
longer is shown.  I know I can close Mail and open it back up again again but 
wondered if there is another way to bring back the message table.

Thanks much,
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Re: Reading messages in threads

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Hi Linda.

If you don't want to read anymore messages in thread, press command option W 
together.  This closes all mail windows.

The next question you asked is if the windows are closed what to do.  Press 
Command 1 to open the mail window.

Kawal.

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> Hi,
> 
> I've recently switched to reading messages from this list in the thread 
> format and am liking the way it works.  I have 2 questions.  If there are 
> messages left on a thread and I don't need/want to read the remaining 
> messages, is there a quicker way to stop reading the thread or do I have to 
> press command W until they are all closed?  
> 
> Also, I think  I remember my next question being posted but don't remember 
> the answer.  I've accidentally closed the main window so the message table no 
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> wondered if there is another way to bring back the message table.
> 
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Re: Any Solid State Drive users here?

[Scott Granados]

Hi, I got mine while configuring the Macbook Pro.  It was an option.  About 
$1400 I believe and yes they have smaller options down to 32 GB I believe.


On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:

> scott
> where did you get your ssd from
> I would like more info on it
> and wonder if they have a smaller version
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I have the 500GB SSD drive in my Macbook Pro and love it.  Extremely fast 
>> (especially on reads) and very stable so far.
>> 
>> Only been using it for 2 - 3 weeks though.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks - If you have an SSD (solid state hard drive) in your Mac, would you 
>>> mind telling me about your experience with the performance of VoiceOver and 
>>> other day-to-day functions? I'm in the market for a larger hard drive for 
>>> my macbook and am considering an SSD or maybe purchasing a new or 
>>> refurbished Mac with an SSD.
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> Bryan
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Re: jawbone icon hero

[Scott Granados]

Not sure about fifth element but Brickhouse Security makes an in ear hidden 
bluetooth option that's just like what the feds use.:)

Want to get your secret service on get one.

I like the jawbone products but the construction is a little weedy.  
They also use Chinese labor heavily so I tend to go with Plantronics myself 
which does outsource some of their work but they do all their high end work and 
design / operations in Santa Cruz CA.
I've wondered of our German or Austrian friends have put together any 
headsets.  I'd love to see what AKG or Senheiser could do with making a 
bluetooth headset.:)


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> So i got it, the retail person told me it was a best seller. I really like 
> it. Sexy voice telling me the jawbone is ready, small and takes 55 minutes to 
> completely charge, distinctively easy to use, etc etc.
> 
> 
> I'm wondering when they will make a pen clip sized bluetooth stereo headset 
> so we can look like the 5th element's diplomatic core :)
> 
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Copying Text from a PDF

[Kevin Shaw]

HI List,

Is there any way of copying text out of a PDF? Or, converting the PDF to text?

Thanks in advance  for prompt and informative replies.

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Re: I've lost the post! Help!

[Chris Snyder]

Thanks very much, Tim.  Sending the virtual reality representation of dark 
chocolate with Nougat. :) 
Friendly,
Chris

On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> 1.  To select non-contiguous items:
> 
> • Navigate to the first item.
> • Turn off cursor tracking (VO-shift-f3)
> • Navigate to the next item you wish to select.
> • Press VO-cmd-space.
> • Repeat the above steps to select each of the next items.
> • Press cmd-c to Copy or whatever combination performs your desired task.
> • Don't forget to turn cursor tracking back on. (VO-shift-f3 again)
> 
> 2.  To change the sort order within the Messages table:
> 
> • Interact with the Messages table in your desired mailbox.
> • Navigate to the Date Received column.
> • Press VO-shift-back slash to toggle between sorting up or down the specific 
> column.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2010-09-11, at 9:53 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I've lost the post I saved about how to select multiple non-sequential items 
>> in a folder. I searched for some terms in the archive, but it didn't come up 
>> with it.
>> Also, some how, I seem to have suddenly sorted one of my mail boxes in 
>> reverse order with the oldest message at the bottom of the box! I'm just 
>> having a day it seems. :) Any help will get you free virtual chocolates and 
>> a huge thank you!
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
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Re: Reading messages in threads

[Linda Adams]

Kawal,

Thanks for the information.  Command 1 works great to bring back the Mail 
window if totally closed by accident.

I need to explain my first question a little more.  If a thread has 8 messages, 
I've read 3 and don't need to read he rest, instead of pressing command W 5 
more times, can I clear out the remaining messages and return to the message 
window?  When I pressed Command option W it closed everything which is what I 
wanted to avoid.  Pressing command 1 takes me back to the inbox instead of the 
Macvisionaries mailbox where I had been reading threads.

Thanks,
Linda

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> Hi Linda.
> 
> If you don't want to read anymore messages in thread, press command option W 
> together.  This closes all mail windows.
> 
> The next question you asked is if the windows are closed what to do.  Press 
> Command 1 to open the mail window.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 11 Sep 2010, at 20:22, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've recently switched to reading messages from this list in the thread 
>> format and am liking the way it works.  I have 2 questions.  If there are 
>> messages left on a thread and I don't need/want to read the remaining 
>> messages, is there a quicker way to stop reading the thread or do I have to 
>> press command W until they are all closed?  
>> 
>> Also, I think  I remember my next question being posted but don't remember 
>> the answer.  I've accidentally closed the main window so the message table 
>> no longer is shown.  I know I can close Mail and open it back up again again 
>> but wondered if there is another way to bring back the message table.
>> 
>> Thanks much,
>> Linda
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Re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Sarah Alawami]

All you need to do is point to the link while you interact with the text and 
hit vo space, but inthe same breath I do agree. the email shouod contain the 
full blog post even though it might be an rss email notifier that's subscribed 
to the list.
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> Agreed.
> On 11 Sep 2010, at 12:47, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> It would be nice if the whole news from Maccessibility was send to the list 
>> instead just a preview. What do you all think? I find it pretty annoying to 
>> read the first part of an interesting text and then I have to click the link 
>> to open the website to read the rest of the news. I really like to receive 
>> the news from Maccessibility, but it would be nice to get the whole news 
>> instead just the half of it.
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
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>> Website:
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Re: Unintentional Aliases and getting rid of them

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah you should just be able to hit cmd del and put them int he trash. I still 
accidently creat those blasted shortcuts and don't realise it. lol! oops.
On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Michael!
> The command to make aliases is [ command+l ] I do not know why you would be 
> using that command unless you think it does something else!
> Or you are hitting it by mistake!
> Why you can not delete them I do not know, I thought you just sat on it and 
> pressed delete!
> hth Colin
> Skype focus_66
> On 11 Sep 2010, at 18:07, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Sometimes, apparently only when I am in Finder, I'm accidentally entering a 
>> keyboard combination that is generating Aliases to other things in my Finder 
>> Window.
>> 
>> So here are my questions:
>> 
>> 1.  What keyboard combination creates Aliases and does this keyboard 
>> combination create them, even if one isn't in Finder?
>> 
>> 2.  Why can't I seem to delete them?  
>> 
>> I may be creating Aliases from outside Finder; I just don't really know for 
>> sure.
>> 
>> Thanks for the enlightenment!
>> 
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Re: Instructions for Kobo Books: How to change to scrolling mode and do table of contents navigation

[Esther]

Hi Cheryl,

I took a look at the current Kobo Books set up, and from what you say,  
now when you double tap the center of the screen to bring up the page  
controls, and find "Icon Gear" in the top right corner of the screen,  
you can't locate the "Display Settings, button" by moving your finger  
down the screen from "Icon Gear".  Apparently the page controls can  
now come up either with or without the controls for fonts, overview,  
screen brightness and settings on the bottom half of the screen, and  
this appears to have changed in the version they released (3.4.1 on  
August 28) just after I posted my instructions. I'm cc'ing the new  
instructions to the macvisionaries list.  Here's another way to  
navigate to the "Display Settings, button" which didn't work at the  
time of my earlier post:


1)  Double tap the center of the screen to bring up page controls, and  
check that they are present by finding the "I'm Reading, button" at  
the top left corner of the screen by either touching this corner, or  
doing a four-finger flick up to navigate to it.  Flicking right from  
the "I'm Reading, button" should take you to an "Icon Gear, button" at  
the top right corner of the screen.  These buttons are just below the  
status bar icons for signal strength (at the top left) and battery  
power (at the top right), respectively.  However, now the default  
seems to be that when you bring up page controls, you only display  
these two buttons at the top of the page, and a position slider at the  
bottom of the page -- you don't bring up the buttons for getting to  
the "Settings" menu or for adjusting fonts, etc.  These only come up  
when you double tap the "Icon Gear, button" at the top right corner of  
the screen, after you've brought up the page controls.


2)  Do a four-finger flick down to move to the end of the page.   
VoiceOver should say "Toggle Night reading mode". If it says something  
like "minus 0 per cent, adjustable; swipe up or down to adjust the  
value", do a four-finger flick up to move to "I'm Reading, button",  
then flick right to
3)  Flick left six times till you hear "Display Settings, button",  
then double tap anywhere on the screen.
4)  You should now be on the Settings page (which won't be labeled  
with a heading) and be able to flick down to the "Page transition  
style" category and then flick right to set this to "Scrolling" and  
double tap.
5) Navigate back to the "Back, button" in the top left corner (either  
by touching it, or by doing a four finger flick up), and double tap to  
return to the previous screen.
6) Touch the center of the screen (away from any of the page controls  
-- anywhere in the top third of the screen will do), then double tap  
to dismiss the page controls.


You should now be able to navigate through the book using the links.   
The major change for VoiceOver users between version 3.4 (released  
August 20) and 3.4.1 (released August 28) is that bringing up page  
controls by double tapping in the center of the screen (after ensuring  
that focus is not on any of the buttons etc. by simply touching the  
center of the screen first), does not bring up the controls in the  
bottom half of the screen that allow you to access the settings, or  
read the overview of the book and access the chapters.


I'll describe these controls in detail assuming that you do a four  
finger flick down to reach to the last element on the full page  
controls, which is (3b) "toggle night reading mode, button" in the  
bottom right corner. I'll number the buttons according to their row  
number in the bottom half of the screen, with a letter giving the  
order of their appearance, from left to right.  (Since we are flicking  
back from the end of the page, these appear in inverted order).   
Flicking left from there you have buttons for:


1. (3a) "toggles screen rotation lock" (bottom left)
2. (2d) "increase brightness" (far right, first of two buttons above  
"night reading mode")
3. (2c) "reduce brightness" (right, second of two buttons above "night  
reading mode")
4. (2b) "increase text size" (left, second of two buttons above  
"rotation lock")
5. (2a) "reduce text size" (far left, first of two buttons above  
"rotation lock")

6. (1d) "display settings" (far right, just above "increase brightness")
7. (1c)  "overview" (right, just above "reduce brightness"
8. (1b)  "browse bookmarks" (left, just above, "increase text size")
9. (1a)  "add or remove bookmark" (far left, just above "reduce text  
size")


In summary, there are three rows of buttons in the bottom third of the  
iPhone screen when you double tap the "icon gear" button in the top  
right corner after bringing up page controls.  The key buttons you  
want to reference are (1d) under item 6 -- the "display settings"  
button and (1c) under item 7 -- the "overview" button.


You only need to access "display settings" once, to change the page  
view to "scrolling".  This will automatically let you n

how do I select multiple non-sequential items in the address book?

[Laura Bratton]

 Hi All
 how do I  select multiple non-sequential items in the address book? I followed 
the below steps but it didn't work. What am I doing wrong? 
 
• Navigate to the first item.
• Turn off cursor tracking (VO-shift-f3)
• Navigate to the next item you wish to select.
• Press VO-cmd-space.
• Repeat the above steps to select each of the next items.
• Press cmd-c to Copy or whatever combination performs your desired task.
• Don't forget to turn cursor tracking back on. (VO-shift-f3 again)
Thanks for any help,
Laura 

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Re: how do I select multiple non-sequential items in the address book?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

This does also work in Address Book.  Make sure that if you don't have cursors 
following each other that you first bring the mouse cursor to the VO cursor 
using VO-cmd-f5 (you may need to add the FN key if using a laptop).

If you are using a laptop, you'll need to add the FN key when using any key 
combination with an function key.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2010-09-11, at 6:08 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:

>  Hi All
>  how do I  select multiple non-sequential items in the address book? I 
> followed the below steps but it didn't work. What am I doing wrong? 
>  
> • Navigate to the first item.
> • Turn off cursor tracking (VO-shift-f3)
> • Navigate to the next item you wish to select.
> • Press VO-cmd-space.
> • Repeat the above steps to select each of the next items.
> • Press cmd-c to Copy or whatever combination performs your desired task.
> • Don't forget to turn cursor tracking back on. (VO-shift-f3 again)
> Thanks for any help,
> Laura 
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Re: how do I select multiple non-sequential items in the address book?

[Esther]

Hi,

Just to add to Tim's comments, yes, this does work for Address Book.   
Also make sure that you interact before moving to your first  
selection.  You can also check your selection at any time with VO-F6.   
The VO-Command-Space shortcut is a toggle action, so if you checked  
your list of selected items with VO-F6, and decided that one of these  
items was included in error, just navigate to it and use VO-Command- 
Space to remove it from your list of selected items.  And if your list  
is very long, you can lock your Voiceover keys with VO-semi-colon,  
then arrow up or down your list and select/deselect with Command- 
Space, and check selections by pressing F6.  Unlock your keys by  
pressing semi-colon and remember to turn cursor tracking back on again  
at the end.  (VO-Shift-F3).


Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 11, 2010, at 14:14, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

This does also work in Address Book.  Make sure that if you don't  
have cursors following each other that you first bring the mouse  
cursor to the VO cursor using VO-cmd-f5 (you may need to add the FN  
key if using a laptop).


If you are using a laptop, you'll need to add the FN key when using  
any key combination with an function key.


HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2010-09-11, at 6:08 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:


 Hi All
 how do I  select multiple non-sequential items in the address  
book? I followed the below steps but it didn't work. What am I  
doing wrong?


• Navigate to the first item.
• Turn off cursor tracking (VO-shift-f3)
• Navigate to the next item you wish to select.
• Press VO-cmd-space.
• Repeat the above steps to select each of the next items.
• Press cmd-c to Copy or whatever combination performs your desired  
task.

• Don't forget to turn cursor tracking back on. (VO-shift-f3 again)
Thanks for any help,
Laura



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Re: how do I select multiple non-sequential items in the address book?

[Sarah Alawami]

I lock my vo keys so I don't he to hold them down so all I need do is press cmd 
space when selecting.

take care.

S
On Sep 11, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just to add to Tim's comments, yes, this does work for Address Book.  Also 
> make sure that you interact before moving to your first selection.  You can 
> also check your selection at any time with VO-F6.  The VO-Command-Space 
> shortcut is a toggle action, so if you checked your list of selected items 
> with VO-F6, and decided that one of these items was included in error, just 
> navigate to it and use VO-Command-Space to remove it from your list of 
> selected items.  And if your list is very long, you can lock your Voiceover 
> keys with VO-semi-colon, then arrow up or down your list and select/deselect 
> with Command-Space, and check selections by pressing F6.  Unlock your keys by 
> pressing semi-colon and remember to turn cursor tracking back on again at the 
> end.  (VO-Shift-F3).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
>  
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 14:14, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This does also work in Address Book.  Make sure that if you don't have 
>> cursors following each other that you first bring the mouse cursor to the VO 
>> cursor using VO-cmd-f5 (you may need to add the FN key if using a laptop).
>> 
>> If you are using a laptop, you'll need to add the FN key when using any key 
>> combination with an function key.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2010-09-11, at 6:08 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>> 
>>>  Hi All
>>>  how do I  select multiple non-sequential items in the address book? I 
>>> followed the below steps but it didn't work. What am I doing wrong? 
>>>  
>>> • Navigate to the first item.
>>> • Turn off cursor tracking (VO-shift-f3)
>>> • Navigate to the next item you wish to select.
>>> • Press VO-cmd-space.
>>> • Repeat the above steps to select each of the next items.
>>> • Press cmd-c to Copy or whatever combination performs your desired task.
>>> • Don't forget to turn cursor tracking back on. (VO-shift-f3 again)
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> Laura 
>>> 
> 
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Re: to Allison, Carolyn, Colin, and anyone else wanting to know how to make a ringtone in itunes

[Colin M]

Hi Donna! [ and the mystery person ]
Thanks for this I've followed the steps but I do not need to make it Iphone 
compatible so I've just change the name!
But it works so thank you again :-]
Yours [ going to be very bizzy looking for tracks to change! ]
Colin
Skype focus_66
On 10 Sep 2010, at 21:03, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi again all,
> 
> And here are the directions.  These were passed to me by someone on this
> list, I just can't remember who any more.  So, whoever you were, thanks,
> your knowledge continues to be disseminated.  Oh, and this isn't as hard as
> it looks.  I kept these instructions to refer to the first few times, but
> now I can practically do it in my sleep.
> Donna
> 
> 1. open itunes and go to the song you want to use for your ringtone
> 2. press cmd--I to get info and go to the options tab.
> 3. check the start and end time boxes. [note, make sure you know where
> you want your start and end to be. this must be 40 seconds or less]
> once you've selected the allotted time, click OK.
> 
>(Note from me, you can forward the song to the place you want the
> ringtone to start.  The LCD area will show the remaining time left in the
> song.  Subtract that from the total song time, and you've got your start
> position)
> 
> 4. Go to Advanced and select create AAC version. this creates a
> duplicate of your selected song.
> 
> 5. Now, the song you just created should be sitting below your
> original in the songs table as an aAC version. go to the original, you
> will know it's the original because the time is still the original
> length. Now you should get info again on the original track, ensuring
> the track is highlighted, and uncheck the boxes you checked
> previously. This will make sure your song is in tact.
> 
> 6. Now highlight your duplicate song, the one you made for your
> Ringtone.  Show it in finder with Cmd-r and hit cmd--c to copy. Paste it to
> your desk top and delete
> the duplicate in itunes. [this must be done or else the following
> steps will not work]
> 
> 7. Rename the file on your desktop, with the m4r extension. all you
> need to do is hit enter/return on the file on the desktop and go to
> the end of the file name, deleting the m4a and typing m4r.
> 8. Go back to itunes and hit add to library cmd--o. find your new
> ringtone on the desktop and import it.  (You can also just go to your
> desktop, and hit CMD-O while on the file.
> 9. Go to your ringtones playlist and it should be there.
> 10. Sync your iphone.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: making ringtones with itunes still works
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just made a ringtone in itunes from a song I had purchased from the itunes
> store, and it worked like a charm.  I think the only change in iTunes 10 is
> that they took that option out of the Store menu.  I never got that to work
> anyway, so as far as I'm concerned it's no great loss.
> I'll now post my set of instructions for making a ringtone in itunes.
> 
> Donna
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Re: opening something.

[Chantel Cuddemi]

Ian, there's an open with submenu you can pick vlc from. 
On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> hi i have been trying to open ogg files with vlc media player but when i go 
> to open on the menu and it asks me to choose the application i want to open 
> the file with vlc media player does not come up. 
> 
> Ian McNamara 
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tracpad question

[Carolyn]

Hi guys:
It suddenly strikes me that I often find myself exploring the mbp on kSaturday 
nights, coming up with questions.  So, true to form, here we go:
I've worked for about a year with the iPhone, and understand how to make 
gestures.  I'm finally starting to try to move this knowledge to the multitouch 
trackpad.  Something that isn't clear to me is how to employ the trackpad and 
when to opt for it rather than keyboard.  Here then is my question:
I have managed to select the Mail app on the trackpad.  Is there a way to open 
it from there?  Because when I attempt the double tap, that does nothing.  
I feel like I'm closer to linking the devices together in my understanding, but 
missing something.
Any input welcome. and tia

Carolyn
(apple obsessed)

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Re: tracpad question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I generally use the track pad commander for surfing the web.  I don't use it 
very much in apps like Mail and iTunes because it forces me to interact with 
tables and such more than I find necessary.  I'm not sure why double tapping on 
the Mail app isn't opening it up for you though.  The commander sure does cut 
down on some of those 4 and 5 key combos.  lol.  This is where making your own 
assignable gestures comes into play.
On Sep 11, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> Hi guys:
> It suddenly strikes me that I often find myself exploring the mbp on 
> kSaturday nights, coming up with questions.  So, true to form, here we go:
> I've worked for about a year with the iPhone, and understand how to make 
> gestures.  I'm finally starting to try to move this knowledge to the 
> multitouch trackpad.  Something that isn't clear to me is how to employ the 
> trackpad and when to opt for it rather than keyboard.  Here then is my 
> question:
> I have managed to select the Mail app on the trackpad.  Is there a way to 
> open it from there?  Because when I attempt the double tap, that does 
> nothing.  
> I feel like I'm closer to linking the devices together in my understanding, 
> but missing something.
> Any input welcome. and tia
> 
> Carolyn
> (apple obsessed)
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Re: to Allison, Carolyn, Colin, and anyone else wanting to know how to make a ringtone in itunes

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Colin,

Glad it works!
Donna
On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Donna! [ and the mystery person ]
> Thanks for this I've followed the steps but I do not need to make it Iphone 
> compatible so I've just change the name!
> But it works so thank you again :-]
> Yours [ going to be very bizzy looking for tracks to change! ]
> Colin
> Skype focus_66
> On 10 Sep 2010, at 21:03, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi again all,
>> 
>> And here are the directions.  These were passed to me by someone on this
>> list, I just can't remember who any more.  So, whoever you were, thanks,
>> your knowledge continues to be disseminated.  Oh, and this isn't as hard as
>> it looks.  I kept these instructions to refer to the first few times, but
>> now I can practically do it in my sleep.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 1. open itunes and go to the song you want to use for your ringtone
>> 2. press cmd--I to get info and go to the options tab.
>> 3. check the start and end time boxes. [note, make sure you know where
>> you want your start and end to be. this must be 40 seconds or less]
>> once you've selected the allotted time, click OK.
>> 
>>   (Note from me, you can forward the song to the place you want the
>> ringtone to start.  The LCD area will show the remaining time left in the
>> song.  Subtract that from the total song time, and you've got your start
>> position)
>> 
>> 4. Go to Advanced and select create AAC version. this creates a
>> duplicate of your selected song.
>> 
>> 5. Now, the song you just created should be sitting below your
>> original in the songs table as an aAC version. go to the original, you
>> will know it's the original because the time is still the original
>> length. Now you should get info again on the original track, ensuring
>> the track is highlighted, and uncheck the boxes you checked
>> previously. This will make sure your song is in tact.
>> 
>> 6. Now highlight your duplicate song, the one you made for your
>> Ringtone.  Show it in finder with Cmd-r and hit cmd--c to copy. Paste it to
>> your desk top and delete
>> the duplicate in itunes. [this must be done or else the following
>> steps will not work]
>> 
>> 7. Rename the file on your desktop, with the m4r extension. all you
>> need to do is hit enter/return on the file on the desktop and go to
>> the end of the file name, deleting the m4a and typing m4r.
>> 8. Go back to itunes and hit add to library cmd--o. find your new
>> ringtone on the desktop and import it.  (You can also just go to your
>> desktop, and hit CMD-O while on the file.
>> 9. Go to your ringtones playlist and it should be there.
>> 10. Sync your iphone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: making ringtones with itunes still works
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just made a ringtone in itunes from a song I had purchased from the itunes
>> store, and it worked like a charm.  I think the only change in iTunes 10 is
>> that they took that option out of the Store menu.  I never got that to work
>> anyway, so as far as I'm concerned it's no great loss.
>> I'll now post my set of instructions for making a ringtone in itunes.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: tracpad question

[Carolyn]

Hi:
Please disregard.  Found the answer in an old post I had saved.

Thanks
Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carolyn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:08 PM
  Subject: tracpad question


  Hi guys:
  It suddenly strikes me that I often find myself exploring the mbp on 
kSaturday nights, coming up with questions.  So, true to form, here we go:
  I've worked for about a year with the iPhone, and understand how to make 
gestures.  I'm finally starting to try to move this knowledge to the multitouch 
trackpad.  Something that isn't clear to me is how to employ the trackpad and 
when to opt for it rather than keyboard.  Here then is my question:
  I have managed to select the Mail app on the trackpad.  Is there a way to 
open it from there?  Because when I attempt the double tap, that does nothing.  
  I feel like I'm closer to linking the devices together in my understanding, 
but missing something.
  Any input welcome. and tia

  Carolyn
  (apple obsessed)

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Re: tracpad question

[Carolyn]

Ah, Ricardo:
Thanks for getting back to me.  I found out it's double-tap on the left side of 
the screen in the middle.  This is getting to be a very cool device.  But, 
Safari was behaving incredibly badly during my training session.  It set a good 
example for the team of some of the cr*p we have to go through at times.:)
Take care and thanks
Carolyn
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:14 PM
  Subject: Re: tracpad question


  Hi,

  I generally use the track pad commander for surfing the web.  I don't use it 
very much in apps like Mail and iTunes because it forces me to interact with 
tables and such more than I find necessary.  I'm not sure why double tapping on 
the Mail app isn't opening it up for you though.  The commander sure does cut 
down on some of those 4 and 5 key combos.  lol.  This is where making your own 
assignable gestures comes into play.
  On Sep 11, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

  > Hi guys:
  > It suddenly strikes me that I often find myself exploring the mbp on 
kSaturday nights, coming up with questions.  So, true to form, here we go:
  > I've worked for about a year with the iPhone, and understand how to make 
gestures.  I'm finally starting to try to move this knowledge to the multitouch 
trackpad.  Something that isn't clear to me is how to employ the trackpad and 
when to opt for it rather than keyboard.  Here then is my question:
  > I have managed to select the Mail app on the trackpad.  Is there a way to 
open it from there?  Because when I attempt the double tap, that does nothing.  
  > I feel like I'm closer to linking the devices together in my understanding, 
but missing something.
  > Any input welcome. and tia
  > 
  > Carolyn
  > (apple obsessed)
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Re: Any Solid State Drive users here?

[Braille]

500GB SSD? Does it cost like 6000  dollars?

On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I have the 500GB SSD drive in my Macbook Pro and love it.  Extremely fast 
> (especially on reads) and very stable so far.
> 
> Only been using it for 2 - 3 weeks though.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Folks - If you have an SSD (solid state hard drive) in your Mac, would you 
>> mind telling me about your experience with the performance of VoiceOver and 
>> other day-to-day functions? I'm in the market for a larger hard drive for my 
>> macbook and am considering an SSD or maybe purchasing a new or refurbished 
>> Mac with an SSD.
>> 
>> TIA,
>> Bryan
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iphone4, some questions about vo

[Windels William]

Hello all,
I have some more  questions about the iphone 4 with voiceover:
How can I transfer a (pdf) document to my iphone to read it on the move?
(I don't have MobileMe).
I see already some options:
bluetooth, by mail or?
Or, is it also with itunes, like music?
And, where can I find the uploaded files to my iphone since the iphone isn't 
visible 
  in the finder as a external drive?

thanx for your answers
William 

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Re: Any Solid State Drive users here?

[Ricardo Walker]

nah,

It's a little over a thousand.
On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Braille wrote:

> 500GB SSD? Does it cost like 6000  dollars?
> 
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I have the 500GB SSD drive in my Macbook Pro and love it.  Extremely fast 
>> (especially on reads) and very stable so far.
>> 
>> Only been using it for 2 - 3 weeks though.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks - If you have an SSD (solid state hard drive) in your Mac, would you 
>>> mind telling me about your experience with the performance of VoiceOver and 
>>> other day-to-day functions? I'm in the market for a larger hard drive for 
>>> my macbook and am considering an SSD or maybe purchasing a new or 
>>> refurbished Mac with an SSD.
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> Bryan
>>> 
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Mod note re: While sending Maccessibility news on the list

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

Since Cara and her good buddy Elvis Presley (and y'all actually thought he was 
dead) are off in the South of France spending those millions that come her way 
every time you click on a Maccessibility article I thought I'd put on my 
moderator hat for the first time on this list to request closure of this topic.

To be honest there were a number of occasions when I wished there were a couple 
more lines in the Maccessibility email so I wouldn't have to click on the link. 
 In many cases though I was already aware of the content -- e.g. Esther wrote 
her typical excellent and informative description of the new IOS4.1 key 
commands.  Saving her post rendered perusal of that article superfluous.  When 
the couple lines made me curious enough to click on the link, however I 
accepted the reality that this is how main stream communication is conducted 
today.  If someone asks about basic voiceOver commands would you cut and paste 
the text of applicable chapters from the VO getting started guide into a reply 
and fill everyone's in-box, or  simply reference the URL?  I would suggest that 
the latter is infinitely more desirable especially for the majority who 
wouldn't be in need of this information.  Sorry, but in this day and age its a 
reasonable expectation that users be capable of clicking links contained in 
emails since browser integration has been a basic feature of main stream email 
clients as far back  as the mid 1990s.  More over, screen readers offer a way 
to quickly skip to headings, or voiceOver's item chooser would probably do the 
trick.

And speaking of filling up in-boxes, I would suggest that the venting, 
conspiracy theories and general foolishness over a policy someone pointed out 
early on "aint gonna" change consumed  much more human life than, gasp, having 
to click on a link so as to learn more about a topic of interest.  Just do the 
math.  We presently have 556 subscribers.  For sake of argument lets say it 
takes an average of five seconds to deal with a post, though I'm sure its 
probably much longer.  Okay, so five seconds times 556 subscribers equals 46 
minutes and 20 seconds of human life for every post.  This is why I believe 
it's important to make one's post count, and there is really no value whipping 
a dead horse.

I don't personally know Maccessibility's business model, but lets say for sake 
of argument that the authors get some kind of compensation from advertisers 
based on list traffic.  Okay, seriously, even if this is so, WTF is wrong with 
that?  How does this vary from sites such as Snopes or Google, or just about 
every other site we routinely visit.  From what I've seen, a lot of work goes 
into Maccessibility and I suspect it's not likely to by groceries, let alone 
send anyone on a crews to the South of France with Elvis.  As with any other 
site you absolutely have a choice whether the content warrants your time to 
visit.

Now can we please put this topic to bed?  Hope everyone is having a great 
weekend.
Geoff

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