Re: dmg files.

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Sarah,

What is command shift c doing? Command plus c will copy, ready for pasting 
later, but what is command plus shift plus c that you mentioned?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: dmg files.


You can move it to trash but you skipped a step after you move the skype.app 
to the apps folder hit cmd shift c and hit command e on the skype icon 
there.

On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


Hi Sarah,

Thanks for the instructions.  I moved skype.app to the applications 
folder. I then went into the computer list and located skype.dmg in my 
downloads folder.  In the file menu eject (command+e) is dimmed, though 
move to trash is available.  Is that what I want?

Geoff

- Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: dmg files.


Wo! no no no! don't do that!

1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will 
open.


2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.

3. copy the skype.app.

4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg 
from the computer place by


1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.

2. find the skype.dmg

3. pressing cmd E.

Take care.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


Greetings,

Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open 
it from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
installation process necessary after downloading?


Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have 
two 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also 
dimmed so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.


TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
Geoff
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RE: To Chris Moore!

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi List,

 Just a quick question on adium,

 Does adium work with the jabba protocol / as a jabba chat client?



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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of focus
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 11:59 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: focus
Subject: Re: To Chris Moore!

Hi Chris!
I've downloaded adium and I think I've got it set up ok!
But have not had a chat on facebook yet!!
Many thanks .
Colin
Skype focus_66
On 21 Aug 2010, at 01:57, Chris Moore wrote:

> Hi Colin,
> 
> First of all you can try the obvious by using http://m.facebook.com which
is the stripped down version and works very well.  However I am not a fan of
this version as every time you delete something or make a change the page
reloads to do a refresh as javascript is removed from this version.  Using
FB chat is doable but its tricky, I usually VO left arrow as soon as I load
FB, but now I tend to chat on FB via an external chat client as it makes it
easier when chatting to more than one person at the same time.  I use Adium
as I can chat to friends on MSN at the same time, AOL Messenger and iChat
also allow this facility.
> 
> As for navigating the main FB page, I tend to use group mode quite a lot
as FB is basically a 3 column design with a banner of links going from left
to right at the top of the page.  Group mode also makes it easier moving up
and down etc within your inbox as this is a table of rows and columns.  I
usually find the what is on your mind button with either the item chooser by
filtering the results by typing in mind (does not always work) or by using
the forms rota and typing in mind there.
> 
> Lately though, I have invested in a Magic Trackpad (if you have a Macbook
than you have a smaller version of one of these already built into your mac)
and this makes it easy to find stuff just by moving around with one finger.
The whats on your mind field is always near the top in the middle column .
> 
> FB is not the best site to work on, in fact its even a bit of a mess when
you are sighted too.  I used to get very frustrated with FB's constant
redesign.  Another tip to make navigating FB is to remove the apps you do
not want and delete people you no longer chat to or have an interest in
(sounds harsh I know but helps get rid of some of the clutter).
> 
> Chris 
> On 20 Aug 2010, at 19:18, focus wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris!
>> I'm fairly new to Mac!
>> Just had it since last November, and did not have anything before!
>> But when looking at the post about something, you mentioned how you used
the vo cmd and it made doing facebook much easier!
>> So I was wondering in what way?
>> I'm interested in making facebook easier on the Mac!
>> Any advice welcome!
>> Colin
>> Skype focus_66
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Re: To Chris Moore!

[Chris Moore]

Yes it supports Jabber, simply go to the File menu and click on add account and 
you will see Jabber in the sub menu.

iChat also supports Jabber too.

Chris 
On 25 Aug 2010, at 10:11, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> Just a quick question on adium,
> 
> Does adium work with the jabba protocol / as a jabba chat client?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of focus
> Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 11:59 p.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: focus
> Subject: Re: To Chris Moore!
> 
> Hi Chris!
> I've downloaded adium and I think I've got it set up ok!
> But have not had a chat on facebook yet!!
> Many thanks .
> Colin
> Skype focus_66
> On 21 Aug 2010, at 01:57, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Hi Colin,
>> 
>> First of all you can try the obvious by using http://m.facebook.com which
> is the stripped down version and works very well.  However I am not a fan of
> this version as every time you delete something or make a change the page
> reloads to do a refresh as javascript is removed from this version.  Using
> FB chat is doable but its tricky, I usually VO left arrow as soon as I load
> FB, but now I tend to chat on FB via an external chat client as it makes it
> easier when chatting to more than one person at the same time.  I use Adium
> as I can chat to friends on MSN at the same time, AOL Messenger and iChat
> also allow this facility.
>> 
>> As for navigating the main FB page, I tend to use group mode quite a lot
> as FB is basically a 3 column design with a banner of links going from left
> to right at the top of the page.  Group mode also makes it easier moving up
> and down etc within your inbox as this is a table of rows and columns.  I
> usually find the what is on your mind button with either the item chooser by
> filtering the results by typing in mind (does not always work) or by using
> the forms rota and typing in mind there.
>> 
>> Lately though, I have invested in a Magic Trackpad (if you have a Macbook
> than you have a smaller version of one of these already built into your mac)
> and this makes it easy to find stuff just by moving around with one finger.
> The whats on your mind field is always near the top in the middle column .
>> 
>> FB is not the best site to work on, in fact its even a bit of a mess when
> you are sighted too.  I used to get very frustrated with FB's constant
> redesign.  Another tip to make navigating FB is to remove the apps you do
> not want and delete people you no longer chat to or have an interest in
> (sounds harsh I know but helps get rid of some of the clutter).
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 20 Aug 2010, at 19:18, focus wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris!
>>> I'm fairly new to Mac!
>>> Just had it since last November, and did not have anything before!
>>> But when looking at the post about something, you mentioned how you used
> the vo cmd and it made doing facebook much easier!
>>> So I was wondering in what way?
>>> I'm interested in making facebook easier on the Mac!
>>> Any advice welcome!
>>> Colin
>>> Skype focus_66
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Re: Can't Switch Through Applications Sometimes...

[Ricardo Walker]

When this happens, how many applications are running?
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> Just recently, I've been running into a strange situation on my MacBook 
> Pro.  Sometimes when I boot up, I can load applications like Mail and Safari, 
> with no problems but when I press Command Tab, it only brings me to the 
> Finder window.  The only way I can get back into the app is by choosing it in 
> the Doc.  I've tried restarting Voice Over, but that doesn't  help.  The only 
> thing I can do to fix it is by restarting the computer.  Is any one else 
> experiencing anything like this?  Its getting a little annoying.
> Oh, yeah, I'm also running Boot Camp and am wondering if this could be 
> complicating things?  Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Justin
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google calanders

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi List,

 

Just wondering if anyone has tried using google calanders rather than Ical,
or inconjunction with I cal.

 

Even further would be using google calanders with ical and say a nokia
mobile phone?

 

I'm in a situation where I need to use different cal's for different things
and was trying to figure out syncing \\

 

Cheers for any assistance / info.

 

Simon 

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Re: google calanders

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi,

Theres a thing called spanning sync which does the ical google cal syncing 
which is pretty cool, but google cal users cant edit your calendar.

I myself am setting a google apps cal i want to sync with ical for different 
groups and churning cogs to this effect


good luck 


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Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet

[Isaac Obie]

Jerry,
How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't 
find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks

Isaac
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From: "Brett Campbell" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM
Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet



I thought some in the group might find this article interesting.

Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
http://gizmodo.com/5620079/


Brett C.

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Re: Can't Switch Through Applications Sometimes...

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Justin.

I'm also having that situation and have a Mac Book Pro and also run Fusion with 
Windows 7.  So I wonder what it is.  It's fine if I restart but I don't do that 
very often because I use Time Capsule which continues to back up.

Kawal.

On 25 Aug 2010, at 07:09, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> Just recently, I've been running into a strange situation on my MacBook 
> Pro.  Sometimes when I boot up, I can load applications like Mail and Safari, 
> with no problems but when I press Command Tab, it only brings me to the 
> Finder window.  The only way I can get back into the app is by choosing it in 
> the Doc.  I've tried restarting Voice Over, but that doesn't  help.  The only 
> thing I can do to fix it is by restarting the computer.  Is any one else 
> experiencing anything like this?  Its getting a little annoying.
> Oh, yeah, I'm also running Boot Camp and am wondering if this could be 
> complicating things?  Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Justin
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Re: iwork

[Isaac Obie]

Hello Anne,
Is there a demo of iworks 09? Where might it be? Thanks.
Isaac
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From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: iwork



Hello Scott,

You can get the information about font (type, size, colour) with VO-t in 
Pages, despite the fact that the Find Next whatever commands don't work 
and the same information doesn't show up in the status cells on a Braille 
display.


I hope these problems get fixed in iWork10 as I use it all the time.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

If you do a search for "your eyes" without the quotes, it will take
you to the first line of the article there by skipping all the rubbish
thats before it.

It's a pretty interesting read, although I don't really agree with the
hole most iPhone apps are inaccessible thing. Also, did anyone notice
that they hadn't described the picture at the end of the post?

On 25/08/2010, Isaac Obie  wrote:
> Jerry,
> How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't
> find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks
> Isaac
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brett Campbell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM
> Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>
>
>>I thought some in the group might find this article interesting.
>>
>> Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>> http://gizmodo.com/5620079/
>>
>>
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Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet

[Larry Skutchan]

One great way to find the article if you are using Safari is to use the reader. 
Just press Command+Shift+R. They should have mentioned that in the article, 
too. It is a great tool to get to the meat of the page.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> If you do a search for "your eyes" without the quotes, it will take
> you to the first line of the article there by skipping all the rubbish
> thats before it.
> 
> It's a pretty interesting read, although I don't really agree with the
> hole most iPhone apps are inaccessible thing. Also, did anyone notice
> that they hadn't described the picture at the end of the post?
> 
> On 25/08/2010, Isaac Obie  wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't
>> find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks
>> Isaac
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brett Campbell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM
>> Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>> 
>> 
>>> I thought some in the group might find this article interesting.
>>> 
>>> Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>>> http://gizmodo.com/5620079/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brett C.
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Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet

[Ricardo Walker]

Why don't you agree with the notion that most apps for the iPhone aren't 
accessible?  It seems pretty accurate to me.  There is over 100,000 apps in the 
iTunes store.  You think there is at least 50,000 accessible apps?  Keep in 
mind a lot of these apps are video games.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> If you do a search for "your eyes" without the quotes, it will take
> you to the first line of the article there by skipping all the rubbish
> thats before it.
> 
> It's a pretty interesting read, although I don't really agree with the
> hole most iPhone apps are inaccessible thing. Also, did anyone notice
> that they hadn't described the picture at the end of the post?
> 
> On 25/08/2010, Isaac Obie  wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't
>> find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks
>> Isaac
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brett Campbell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM
>> Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>> 
>> 
>>> I thought some in the group might find this article interesting.
>>> 
>>> Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>>> http://gizmodo.com/5620079/
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Because the way that it was written implied that they should be
accessible. I know that it's possible to make audio games on he
iPhone, but I don't think that the average developer should have to
make a completely different game using methods that there not
experienced with just so that blind people can use there products.

Most of the apps that we realisticly should be able to use are accessible to us.

On 25/08/2010, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Why don't you agree with the notion that most apps for the iPhone aren't
> accessible?  It seems pretty accurate to me.  There is over 100,000 apps in
> the iTunes store.  You think there is at least 50,000 accessible apps?  Keep
> in mind a lot of these apps are video games.
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>
>> If you do a search for "your eyes" without the quotes, it will take
>> you to the first line of the article there by skipping all the rubbish
>> thats before it.
>>
>> It's a pretty interesting read, although I don't really agree with the
>> hole most iPhone apps are inaccessible thing. Also, did anyone notice
>> that they hadn't described the picture at the end of the post?
>>
>> On 25/08/2010, Isaac Obie  wrote:
>>> Jerry,
>>> How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't
>>> find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks
>>> Isaac
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brett Campbell" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM
>>> Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>>>
>>>
 I thought some in the group might find this article interesting.

 Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
 http://gizmodo.com/5620079/


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IS There a VM Fusion Keystroke to lock the virtual machine window?

[Alfredo]

I have been looking ont he web and have found no shortcut key to lock
the virtual machine window when I am in it.  For example when I press
the shortcut commandoption+tab, it send the command to the mac and
switches me to another mac applicaiton window.  I would like to set it
up so that every key combination I press goes tot he virtual machine
when I am inside it.  Is ther a keystroke for this, if not, can I
create a keystroke for this?  Cancan I create it in fusion shortcuts
or would it be mac shortcuts?  Thanks for all the help.  Any help
would be appreciated.  If you need further clarification on the
subject just ask.
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Re: ical questions?

[Hai Nguyen]

While Mobile Me may fulfill the needs of some, it does not offer the ultimate 
solution for all. I have yet to find a way to sync contacts and calendar items 
to a Symbian device utilizing Mobile Me, which is the only factor that is 
preventing me from obtaining the service. When the light switch works, things 
are indeed great, but only if there is a light bulb connected to the socket.
Regards:
Hai

On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> The statement written below in the previous message in this thread is one of 
> the reasons why I use Mobile Me for all my PC, Mac, and Smartphone syncing 
> needs.  I just don't want to have to worry about time stamp issues when 
> entering data.  It's kind of like a light switch; when you flip it up, the 
> light should just come on.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote:
> 
>> To add to this thread, I am using iCal with Google Calendar and notice that 
>> when I sync my appointments across devices, the times don't necessarily sync 
>> correctly. For example, I have an appointment on Monday's and Wednesdays 
>> from 3:00 PM to 3:50 PM. When I view this appointment on my Nokia devices 
>> after I've used a syncing client called Emose, I notice that the time for my 
>> appointment displays as being from 4:00 PM to 3:50 PM, which doesn't make 
>> any sense unless I traveled backwards through time. Thoughts anyone?
>> Hai
>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,  I'm just playing with ICal, and thinking that it makes the calendar on 
>>> my phone seem slugish and inelegant.  There's only one major issue that I 
>>> have run into so far, and it's not really that big a deal.  I'm just 
>>> curious.
>>> 
>>> For some reason, go to date and go to today are greyed out sometimes, but 
>>> not at other times.  I can't work out what the rules are for this.  If the 
>>> options are greyed out, I can press command right arrow for next, and they 
>>> will come back.
>>> 
>>> Has any one else noticed this, and is there a grand design behind it, or is 
>>> it just a bug?  I've noticed there are some glitchy things about the 
>>> program, such as how pressing enter once you've picked a date in the go to 
>>> day dialog it doesn't activate the default button which is the show button.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> box.
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Re: ical questions?

[Hai Nguyen]

Thank you Scott for the great suggestion. I do indeed have this setting checked.

On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> This may be a long shot, but do you have timezone support turned on? I had a 
> similar problem at work and turning this on seemed to take care of the issue. 
> You can find this setting in Advanced in the preferences for iCal.
> 
> hth,
> On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote:
> 
>> To add to this thread, I am using iCal with Google Calendar and notice that 
>> when I sync my appointments across devices, the times don't necessarily sync 
>> correctly. For example, I have an appointment on Monday's and Wednesdays 
>> from 3:00 PM to 3:50 PM. When I view this appointment on my Nokia devices 
>> after I've used a syncing client called Emose, I notice that the time for my 
>> appointment displays as being from 4:00 PM to 3:50 PM, which doesn't make 
>> any sense unless I traveled backwards through time. Thoughts anyone?
>> Hai
>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,  I'm just playing with ICal, and thinking that it makes the calendar on 
>>> my phone seem slugish and inelegant.  There's only one major issue that I 
>>> have run into so far, and it's not really that big a deal.  I'm just 
>>> curious.
>>> 
>>> For some reason, go to date and go to today are greyed out sometimes, but 
>>> not at other times.  I can't work out what the rules are for this.  If the 
>>> options are greyed out, I can press command right arrow for next, and they 
>>> will come back.
>>> 
>>> Has any one else noticed this, and is there a grand design behind it, or is 
>>> it just a bug?  I've noticed there are some glitchy things about the 
>>> program, such as how pressing enter once you've picked a date in the go to 
>>> day dialog it doesn't activate the default button which is the show button.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>>> box.
>>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
>>> subscribe.
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Re: dmg files.

[erik burggraaf]

Hi,  I'm not Sarah, but I can tell you she is talking here about Command Shift 
C.  This is the finder keystroke to take you directly to the computer area 
where-in are mounted all of your drives and drive images.

So suppose for example that you put in a dvd full of data and now you are in 
finder.  To view the contents of the dvd, you press command shift C for 
computer.  Then tab to your dvd which will be called something different every 
time.  Then you press command O on it to open and view the contents.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-08-25, at 4:21 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> What is command shift c doing? Command plus c will copy, ready for pasting 
> later, but what is command plus shift plus c that you mentioned?
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: dmg files.
> 
> 
> You can move it to trash but you skipped a step after you move the skype.app 
> to the apps folder hit cmd shift c and hit command e on the skype icon there.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah,
>> 
>> Thanks for the instructions.  I moved skype.app to the applications folder. 
>> I then went into the computer list and located skype.dmg in my downloads 
>> folder.  In the file menu eject (command+e) is dimmed, though move to trash 
>> is available.  Is that what I want?
>> Geoff
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: dmg files.
>> 
>> 
>> Wo! no no no! don't do that!
>> 
>> 1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will open.
>> 
>> 2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.
>> 
>> 3. copy the skype.app.
>> 
>> 4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg 
>> from the computer place by
>> 
>> 1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.
>> 
>> 2. find the skype.dmg
>> 
>> 3. pressing cmd E.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
>>> the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open 
>>> it from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
>>> installation process necessary after downloading?
>>> 
>>> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
>>> 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed 
>>> so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
>>> 
>>> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
>>> Geoff
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Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet

[Rhonda Hornbacher]

One great way to find the article if you are using Safari is to use the reader. 
Just press Command+Shift+R. They should have mentioned that in the article, 
too. It is a great tool to get to the meat of the page.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> If you do a search for "your eyes" without the quotes, it will take
> you to the first line of the article there by skipping all the rubbish
> thats before it.
> 
> It's a pretty interesting read, although I don't really agree with the
> hole most iPhone apps are inaccessible thing. Also, did anyone notice
> that they hadn't described the picture at the end of the post?
> 
> On 25/08/2010, Isaac Obie  wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't
>> find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks
>> Isaac
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brett Campbell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM
>> Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>> 
>> 
>>> I thought some in the group might find this article interesting.
>>> 
>>> Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
>>> http://gizmodo.com/5620079/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brett C.
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Re: iwork

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Isaac,

You can download a 30-day trial copy of iWork from:


Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Aug 2010, at 13:37, Isaac Obie wrote:

> Hello Anne,
> Is there a demo of iworks 09? Where might it be? Thanks.
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: iwork
> 
> 
>> Hello Scott,
>> 
>> You can get the information about font (type, size, colour) with VO-t in 
>> Pages, despite the fact that the Find Next whatever commands don't work and 
>> the same information doesn't show up in the status cells on a Braille 
>> display.
>> 
>> I hope these problems get fixed in iWork10 as I use it all the time.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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vo settings are trashed

[erik burggraaf]

Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover turned 
off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This is the 
fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, and it 
has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro running the 
latest snow leopard with all updates.

Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it?

Thanks,

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Re: vo settings are trashed

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

No problems Eric.
On 25 Aug 2010, at 16:43, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
> computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover 
> turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This 
> is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, 
> and it has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro 
> running the latest snow leopard with all updates.
> 
> Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> subscribe.
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Re: vo settings are trashed

[Bryan Jones]

Yes, I think this has been happening to me lately in iTunes and Safari. I'll be 
working and Alex will be chattering away and all of a sudden he'll get quiet, 
then after a few seconds VO announces "VoiceOver On."  I haven't gotten 
proficient enough with VO to do any real customization, so I can't say if it is 
resetting to defaults. I have a Macbook 2.4, Snow Leopard with all patches. 
Also using Apple BT keyboard & Magic trackpad. I don't recall when it started 
happening to me, but I've had this vague feeling that things haven't been quite 
right since applying the 10.6.4 update.

Bryan

On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
> computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover 
> turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This 
> is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, 
> and it has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro 
> running the latest snow leopard with all updates.
> 
> Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: apple script to hang up skype

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Sarah.

I tried your method Sarah re Skype hang up call but it didn't work.  Not sure 
what I'm doing wrong.

Kawal.
On 24 Aug 2010, at 23:33, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> But a script as far as I know has to be launched from the keyboard and i've 
> tried some keyboarding tools and you must include them I think in your script 
> which I don't know how to do as I don't know anything about apple script. lol
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> On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I wonder if there is a benefit to using an AppleScript to do this? For 
>> example, it might be possible to use the script from within another 
>> application so you can hang up a call within Webkit, for example. This would 
>> take the replacement of the Hotkeys section of Skype that we are currently 
>> missing.
>> 
>> Now, I don't know shit about AppleScript, so I'm probably wrong...but the 
>> whole idea about being able to do it that way sounds neat, especially 
>> because that's how the WIndows Skype Hotkeys work when enabled.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> Twitter
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>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> yeah I was going to  do a podcast on it at some point but basically:
>>> 
>>> 1. go to system prefs and go to keyboard.
>>> 
>>> 2. highlight the keyboard shortcuts tab and hit vo space on it.
>>> 
>>> 3. go to the bottom of the first table and choose applications.
>>> 
>>> 4. go to add and hit vo space on it.
>>> 
>>> 5. choose the application.
>>> 
>>> 6. In this case you *must* have the menu item correct so do an echo123 call 
>>> from with in skype and go to call and copy the hang up phrase vo will speak 
>>> with vo shift c.
>>> 7. paste the phrase in to the next field and edit any vo messages that have 
>>> appeared. Note: I should have e had you copy that first to the clip board 
>>> as I forgot that the keyboard section takes over cmd tab so  you cannot go 
>>> back and forth.
>>> 
>>> 8. Press your keyboard shortcut. Mine is cmd shift H.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah.
 
 Can you tell me how to do that please?
 On 24 Aug 2010, at 19:21, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Actually you can just set a  key to hang up skype. I've done it and it 
> works about 95 percent of the time.
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> On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:03 AM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Below is a apple script to hang up a skype call.
>> I am working on a apple script to answer skype calls.
>> 
>> -- Apple script to hang up a skype call.
>> -- Author
>> -- Richard L. Most better known as Louie
>> -- e-mail
>> -- louiem...@wavecable.com
>> -- Thanks to Greg Kearney for code so I can do  creative plagiarism.
>> 
>> tell application "Skype" to activate
>> tell application "System Events"
>> tell process "Skype"
>> click menu item "Hang Up" of menu 1 of menu bar item "Call" of menu bar 1
>> end tell
>> end tell
>> tell application "Skype" to quit
>> 
>> 
>> louie
>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: vo settings are trashed

[Daniel Rowe]

This happened to me yesterday.  Luckally I had backed up my settings a few 
months earlier as it was doing it quite often.  But I had changed a few more 
things since then so I'll have to boot off my backup drive, export the settings 
off that and import on my original  installation.  Most Annoying.  sgr

Dannie
On 25 Aug 2010, at 16:43, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
> computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover 
> turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This 
> is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, 
> and it has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro 
> running the latest snow leopard with all updates.
> 
> Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
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Re: dmg files.

[Chris Blouch]

This is part of a set of finder navigation shortcuts related to the Go 
menu. Command shift A takes you to the applications folder while command 
shift U takes you to utilities. In a similar way D is for desktop, H is 
for your home folder and since D was already taken, O is for Documents.


CB

erik burggraaf wrote:

Hi,  I'm not Sarah, but I can tell you she is talking here about Command Shift 
C.  This is the finder keystroke to take you directly to the computer area 
where-in are mounted all of your drives and drive images.

So suppose for example that you put in a dvd full of data and now you are in 
finder.  To view the contents of the dvd, you press command shift C for 
computer.  Then tab to your dvd which will be called something different every 
time.  Then you press command O on it to open and view the contents.

Hope this helps,

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On 2010-08-25, at 4:21 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

  

Hi Sarah,

What is command shift c doing? Command plus c will copy, ready for pasting 
later, but what is command plus shift plus c that you mentioned?
- Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: dmg files.


You can move it to trash but you skipped a step after you move the skype.app to 
the apps folder hit cmd shift c and hit command e on the skype icon there.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:



Hi Sarah,

Thanks for the instructions.  I moved skype.app to the applications folder. I 
then went into the computer list and located skype.dmg in my downloads folder.  
In the file menu eject (command+e) is dimmed, though move to trash is 
available.  Is that what I want?
Geoff

- Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: dmg files.


Wo! no no no! don't do that!

1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will open.

2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.

3. copy the skype.app.

4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg from 
the computer place by

1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.

2. find the skype.dmg

3. pressing cmd E.

Take care.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

  

Greetings,

Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied the 
SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it from 
there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no installation 
process necessary after downloading?

Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 45 
meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed so deleting from 
downloads does not appear to be an option.

TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: vo settings are trashed

[Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni]

It's definitely happening to me and it's quite annoying. I don't know how to 
solve it.
Ronit

On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> No problems Eric.
> On 25 Aug 2010, at 16:43, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
>> computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover 
>> turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This 
>> is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of 
>> months, and it has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook 
>> pro running the latest snow leopard with all updates.
>> 
>> Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about 
>> it?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>> box.
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Re: vo settings are trashed

[Sarah Alawami]

Yep I have that problem every once in a while. what I do now is export my 
settings once I get them right via file menu in the vo utility, vo f8 and 
reimport  them. Works great.
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On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
> computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover 
> turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This 
> is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, 
> and it has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro 
> running the latest snow leopard with all updates.
> 
> Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: dmg files.

[Sarah Alawami]

cmd shift c gets you to the computer icon which lists all of your drives and 
dmg files that are mounted. It is a faster way to eject a drive as you just hit 
cmd e after selecting the dmg to eject.

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On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> What is command shift c doing? Command plus c will copy, ready for pasting 
> later, but what is command plus shift plus c that you mentioned?
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: dmg files.
> 
> 
> You can move it to trash but you skipped a step after you move the skype.app 
> to the apps folder hit cmd shift c and hit command e on the skype icon there.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah,
>> 
>> Thanks for the instructions.  I moved skype.app to the applications folder. 
>> I then went into the computer list and located skype.dmg in my downloads 
>> folder.  In the file menu eject (command+e) is dimmed, though move to trash 
>> is available.  Is that what I want?
>> Geoff
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: dmg files.
>> 
>> 
>> Wo! no no no! don't do that!
>> 
>> 1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will open.
>> 
>> 2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.
>> 
>> 3. copy the skype.app.
>> 
>> 4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg 
>> from the computer place by
>> 
>> 1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.
>> 
>> 2. find the skype.dmg
>> 
>> 3. pressing cmd E.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
>>> the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open 
>>> it from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
>>> installation process necessary after downloading?
>>> 
>>> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
>>> 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed 
>>> so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
>>> 
>>> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
>>> Geoff
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Re: apple script to hang up skype

[Sarah Alawami]

Hmm really? Yeah it should work. Just copy the menu item which looks like this

Hang Up 
to the clip board and link that to cmd shift h to the skype application from 
with in the keyboard shortcuts, applications section. You want to edit in the 
table to the right.

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On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hi Sarah.
> 
> I tried your method Sarah re Skype hang up call but it didn't work.  Not sure 
> what I'm doing wrong.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 24 Aug 2010, at 23:33, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> But a script as far as I know has to be launched from the keyboard and i've 
>> tried some keyboarding tools and you must include them I think in your 
>> script which I don't know how to do as I don't know anything about apple 
>> script. lol
>> Sarah Alawami
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if there is a benefit to using an AppleScript to do this? For 
>>> example, it might be possible to use the script from within another 
>>> application so you can hang up a call within Webkit, for example. This 
>>> would take the replacement of the Hotkeys section of Skype that we are 
>>> currently missing.
>>> 
>>> Now, I don't know shit about AppleScript, so I'm probably wrong...but the 
>>> whole idea about being able to do it that way sounds neat, especially 
>>> because that's how the WIndows Skype Hotkeys work when enabled.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> Facebook
>>> Twitter
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>>> AIM: cincinster
>>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 yeah I was going to  do a podcast on it at some point but basically:
 
 1. go to system prefs and go to keyboard.
 
 2. highlight the keyboard shortcuts tab and hit vo space on it.
 
 3. go to the bottom of the first table and choose applications.
 
 4. go to add and hit vo space on it.
 
 5. choose the application.
 
 6. In this case you *must* have the menu item correct so do an echo123 
 call from with in skype and go to call and copy the hang up phrase vo will 
 speak with vo shift c.
 7. paste the phrase in to the next field and edit any vo messages that 
 have appeared. Note: I should have e had you copy that first to the clip 
 board as I forgot that the keyboard section takes over cmd tab so  you 
 cannot go back and forth.
 
 8. Press your keyboard shortcut. Mine is cmd shift H.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Sarah Alawami
 MSN: marri...@gmail.com 
 aim: marri...@gmail.com:
 
 website: http://music.marrie.org
 youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
 
 On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> Hi Sarah.
> 
> Can you tell me how to do that please?
> On 24 Aug 2010, at 19:21, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually you can just set a  key to hang up skype. I've done it and it 
>> works about 95 percent of the time.
>> Sarah Alawami
>> MSN: marri...@gmail.com 
>> aim: marri...@gmail.com:
>> 
>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:03 AM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Below is a apple script to hang up a skype call.
>>> I am working on a apple script to answer skype calls.
>>> 
>>> -- Apple script to hang up a skype call.
>>> -- Author
>>> -- Richard L. Most better known as Louie
>>> -- e-mail
>>> -- louiem...@wavecable.com
>>> -- Thanks to Greg Kearney for code so I can do  creative plagiarism.
>>> 
>>> tell application "Skype" to activate
>>> tell application "System Events"
>>> tell process "Skype"
>>> click menu item "Hang Up" of menu 1 of menu bar item "Call" of menu bar 
>>> 1
>>> end tell
>>> end tell
>>> tell application "Skype" to quit
>>> 
>>> 
>>> louie
>>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Can't Switch Through Applications Sometimes...

[Sarah Alawami]

I am but I don't know under what conditions  this happens. It happened to me 
last night after I had done a windows session and had to reboot  but sometimes 
it will happen even when I just turn on the thing wit out being in a windows 
session.
On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> Just recently, I've been running into a strange situation on my MacBook 
> Pro.  Sometimes when I boot up, I can load applications like Mail and Safari, 
> with no problems but when I press Command Tab, it only brings me to the 
> Finder window.  The only way I can get back into the app is by choosing it in 
> the Doc.  I've tried restarting Voice Over, but that doesn't  help.  The only 
> thing I can do to fix it is by restarting the computer.  Is any one else 
> experiencing anything like this?  Its getting a little annoying.
> Oh, yeah, I'm also running Boot Camp and am wondering if this could be 
> complicating things?  Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Justin
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Re: Can't Switch Through Applications Sometimes...

[Sarah Alawami]

IN my case 2 lol! and it will happen right at boot up. you will just hear 
desktop and thats it, or just finder and that's it.

Take care. 
Sarah Alawami
MSN: marri...@gmail.com 
aim: marri...@gmail.com:

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On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> When this happens, how many applications are running?
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone,
>>Just recently, I've been running into a strange situation on my MacBook 
>> Pro.  Sometimes when I boot up, I can load applications like Mail and 
>> Safari, with no problems but when I press Command Tab, it only brings me to 
>> the Finder window.  The only way I can get back into the app is by choosing 
>> it in the Doc.  I've tried restarting Voice Over, but that doesn't  help.  
>> The only thing I can do to fix it is by restarting the computer.  Is any one 
>> else experiencing anything like this?  Its getting a little annoying.
>>Oh, yeah, I'm also running Boot Camp and am wondering if this could be 
>> complicating things?  Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Justin
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Intro and nooby questions

[Scott Granados]

Morning all,
   Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
google first before asking the obvious.

Thanks all and take care
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Re: Intro and nooby questions

[Donna Goodin]

Welcome aboard, Scott.  this is a great list, I think you'll find it very 
helpful.
Take care,
Donna
On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Morning all,
>   Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
> being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
> years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
> can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
> doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
> Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
> pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
> the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
> professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
> years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
> carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
> content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
> ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
> or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
> questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
> pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
> google first before asking the obvious.
> 
> Thanks all and take care
> Scott
> 
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converting google videos and youtube to mp3

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
Are there any programs for the mac that will let me convert youtube videos and 
videos from google video into standard audio mp3? 

Josh Kennedy
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Re: converting google videos and youtube to mp3

[Chris Moore]

Try going to www.video2mep3.net 
On 25 Aug 2010, at 18:37, Josh Kennedy wrote:

> Hi
> Are there any programs for the mac that will let me convert youtube videos 
> and videos from google video into standard audio mp3? 
> 
> Josh Kennedy
> jkenn...@gmail.com
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Re: VmWare Fusion 3.1.1

[Chris Blouch]

Ever find anything? The volume level difference between VO and Jaws is 
substantial. Only workaround I could think of was to turn the VO volume 
way down so that Jaws is about the same and then bring the overall 
system volume way up.


CB

Scott Howell wrote:

Mike are the volume levels the same? I have reverted back to 3.0.0 because the 
audio level when even installing from scratch is 30 to 40% lower than the 
volume under 3.0.0. In fact under Fusion 3.0.0, the audio levels were equal. I 
am now in discussions with VmWare Support and hopefully they will have some 
ideas. They did have me remove VMWare completely and install from scratch. This 
did not resolve the issue and I really cannot loose audio to this degree.
So, if I find a solution, I will share with the group.
On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

  

H, on one of my mac minis, I upgraded, and the audio is working fine with 
windows XP.
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote:



Folks,

I cannot recommend upgrading to the most recent version of VmWare's Fusion. Not 
only have they not corrected the volume issue, there is now a more significant 
problem. The audio is so choppy as to be useless. I do not know what the hell 
VmWare is doing, but they have really screwed things up in my opinion. It seems 
contacting them is no easy task either, so if anyone has a simple way to reach 
support, please let me know. I am just really disappointed in the last two 
versions.

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Seeking enlightenment in regards to iTunes equalizer

[Brett Campbell]

Hello,

I've noticed that a few list members use DJ apps etc.  I'm hoping someone can 
provide tips tweaking the equalizer settings in iTunes.  I recognize listening 
preferences is entirely individual, so I'm asking that someone explain what 
each setting changes in the sound.  I count a total of 11 boxes to adjust 
settings.  VoiceOver only reads a number along with hertz.  Can anyone explain 
what each box changes in the music or a DVS movie audio track?


Thanks,

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Re: Intro and nooby questions

[Geoff Waaler]

Hello Scott,

I too am trying to make friends with a new MacBookPro and probably need to 
pretend that my XP machine is not here when I'm using email or the web.

  I found the voiceOver documentation lacking in that instead of describing the 
regular system commands for performing functions, they document commands that 
are identical, yet unique to voiceOver which involve more key strokes.  One 
example is VO+m to activate the menu which takes three fingers on two hands 
while control+f2 accomplishes the same thing.  I also want as little to do as 
possible with the special VO cursor.  I'm not sure about interacting yet.  It 
seems analogous to JFW placing web pages into a buffer and activating the 
virtual cursor by default, except that you don't have to issue a four key 
combination (control+option+shift+downArrow) or a two finger flick via the 
trackpad commander to make this happen.  Same deal with text.  I have a lot to 
learn but the voiceOver manual describes having to interact with text and use 
five finger key strokes (slight exaggeration) to read anything, and I miss 
having the same keys available to everyone else such as arrow keys  without 
quicknav or locking VO mode which essentially changes the keyboard to navigate 
around.  So many have switched from XP so I know there's a better way.

  Anyway Sarah recently posted a site listing many standard system keyboard 
commands.  Its apparently not complete because control+f2 is not listed, but 
you may want to check URL: http://www.danrodney.com/mac/

  Also everyone recommends these instructional podcasts created by vision 
Australia, but the few I listened to didn't have any information that is not  
already documented in the voiceOver getting started manual.

  I too will be following this thread closely,, but I know I need to just start 
leaving my XP machines off and do as much as I can on the Mac in order to learn 
how to make navigation feel less cumbersome than it seems right now.  Take care.
  Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:23 PM
  Subject: Intro and nooby questions


  Morning all,
  Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
  being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
  years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
  can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
  doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
  Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
  pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
  the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
  professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
  years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
  carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
  content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
  ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
  or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
  questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
  pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
  google first before asking the obvious.

  Thanks all and take care
  Scott


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Re: Intro and nooby questions

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, check this out.  I learn something new every time I read it.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
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On 2010-08-25, at 2:08 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hello Scott,
>  
> I too am trying to make friends with a new MacBookPro and probably need to 
> pretend that my XP machine is not here when I'm using email or the web.
>  
> I found the voiceOver documentation lacking in that instead of describing the 
> regular system commands for performing functions, they document commands that 
> are identical, yet unique to voiceOver which involve more key strokes.  One 
> example is VO+m to activate the menu which takes three fingers on two hands 
> while control+f2 accomplishes the same thing.  I also want as little to do as 
> possible with the special VO cursor.  I'm not sure about interacting yet.  It 
> seems analogous to JFW placing web pages into a buffer and activating the 
> virtual cursor by default, except that you don't have to issue a four key 
> combination (control+option+shift+downArrow) or a two finger flick via the 
> trackpad commander to make this happen.  Same deal with text.  I have a lot 
> to learn but the voiceOver manual describes having to interact with text and 
> use five finger key strokes (slight exaggeration) to read anything, and I 
> miss having the same keys available to everyone else such as arrow keys  
> without quicknav or locking VO mode which essentially changes the keyboard to 
> navigate around.  So many have switched from XP so I know there's a better 
> way.
>  
> Anyway Sarah recently posted a site listing many standard system keyboard 
> commands.  Its apparently not complete because control+f2 is not listed, but 
> you may want to check URL: http://www.danrodney.com/mac/
>  
> Also everyone recommends these instructional podcasts created by vision 
> Australia, but the few I listened to didn't have any information that is not  
> already documented in the voiceOver getting started manual.
>  
> I too will be following this thread closely,, but I know I need to just start 
> leaving my XP machines off and do as much as I can on the Mac in order to 
> learn how to make navigation feel less cumbersome than it seems right now.  
> Take care.
> Geoff
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Scott Granados
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:23 PM
> Subject: Intro and nooby questions
> 
> Morning all,
> Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
> being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
> years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
> can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
> doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
> Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
> pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
> the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
> professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
> years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
> carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
> content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
> ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
> or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
> questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
> pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
> google first before asking the obvious.
> 
> Thanks all and take care
> Scott
> 
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Re: safari troubles

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Chad Baker,

This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
crashes and restarts itself.


I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know that 
the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour is 
documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is normal 
after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
- Original Message - 
From: "chad baker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: safari troubles



Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
to mac osx 10.

I resetted it but no luck.

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Re: safari troubles

[Scott Granados]

I thought I was losing my mind.  I'm having this same behavior as well.

Is there a fix?

I need to use google.:)

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Erkens" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: safari troubles



Hi Chad Baker,

This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
crashes and restarts itself.


I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
that the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message 
turned of, but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart 
behaviour is documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari 
situation it is of little or no help, because even though v o does restart 
and you are never left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the 
webpage where this occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation 
and behaviour is normal after that, but opening safari on the same page 
gives the same result every time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
- Original Message - 
From: "chad baker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: safari troubles



Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
to mac osx 10.

I resetted it but no luck.

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safari, blackboard, and downloading files

[Greg Aikens]

Hello all,
My school uses the Blackboard platform for accessing course materials such as 
power point slides and course assignments. I can access the site and navigate 
fine, but I cannot figure out how to download the files I need for my courses. 
When I pull up a context menu on the link to try and download it, the file 
being saved is an html document and not the file I want. When I just click on 
the link blackboard pulls up another page which I assume displays the content 
through the web browser. This is an inconvenient way to access the files, if I 
can read them at all. The only kind of file I have been able to read this way 
is a pdf. 

Can you guys suggest other methods for getting to the target file? Has anyone 
else used blackboard to access course materials on a mac in the past?

Thanks for any help. 

-Greg

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Re: safari troubles

[Donna Goodin]

I just tried three different Google searches and am not seeing this behavior.  
Weird.
Donna
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I thought I was losing my mind.  I'm having this same behavior as well.
> 
> Is there a fix?
> 
> I need to use google.:)
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:19 AM
> Subject: Re: safari troubles
> 
> 
>> Hi Chad Baker,
>> 
>> This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
>> crashes and restarts itself.
>> 
>> I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know that 
>> the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
>> but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour is 
>> documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
>> little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
>> left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
>> occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is normal 
>> after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
>> time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
>> - Original Message - From: "chad baker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
>> Subject: safari troubles
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
>>> This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
>>> to mac osx 10.
>>> I resetted it but no luck.
>>> 
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Fw: For Scott G. Out of box, then what?For Geoff

[Carolyn]

Hi Scott:
I'm going to clean up and recycle a post from earlier this month wherein I 
tried to answer a few questions and give another lister  a couple things that 
helped me in getting started with the Mac from JFW.  Hope these help some.

Having cleaned it up, I also appologize to Geoff and other listers for how 
sloppy my original post was.  Yet another learning experience:).


Carolyn 
- Original Message - 
From: Carolyn 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Out of box, then what?
A couple keyboard basics: 
>From your spacebar left there are the following:  Command, option, control, 
>function.  From the spacebar to the right you'll have command, option, and 
>then your arrows.  Everything you really need to get started is contained 
>right there in the mac, including the getting started voiceover tutorial, and 
>"getting started with snow leopard."  It might be titled users guide. Just a 
>couple of very brief comparisons:  

At first, the mac may seem a bit labor intensive.  It's a whole different 
animal, and a whole different way of accessing the screen.  The command key is 
in the same place as an alt key on a pc keyboard, and in some cases functions 
in the same manner, such as when you move through open applications by using 
alt/tab.  The voiceover commands are accessed by using control and option 
together.  These are often referred to as the voiceover or VO keys.  They are 
next to the command key, on the left side), and a lot of things are accessed by 
pressing other keys with them.  

  To get a feel for where things are on the keyboard, press command/k to get 
into "keyboard help."  If you are on a laptop, such as a macbook pro, page up, 
page down, home and End keys are accessed by using fn/arrow keys.   
  For purposes of voiceover, you'll likely want to change your function keys 
from accessing hardware functions to accessing software functions.  You can do 
this by going to apple menu.   Press vo/m.   You'll hear menu, apple.  Arrow 
down to hear'about this mac", "software update:, "Mac O.S.10 software", and 
"system preferences".  Select system preferences by pressing the spacebar.  
(spacebar or VO/spacebar often select and initiate things, unlike the PC where 
you would often use the enter key. 
   You can now use either your tab key or VO/right arrow to move through the 
various options under preferences.  If you vo/right arrow, or tab over to 
keyboard and select it with Vo/spacebar. Tab (or vo/right arrow) once and again 
use vo/spacebar to select keyboard.  Now vo/right arrow until you hear "use f1, 
f2, etc as standard function keys". This is a checkbbox, and you select it with 
vo/spacebar.  Press command/w to close the preferences window for now.  You can 
also access system preferences with command/comma.  This should give you enough 
to get started with.  Just remember, you can't really mess things up unless you 
start going and deleting things, or get into the library.  Unlike a windows 
system, the Library on a mac is more like a registry.  Probably want to stear 
clear of that until you're a little more familiar with things.
  If you always remember command is in the alt key position, next to the 
spacebar, this key does a lot of things.  

  To find anything on the mac, you can use what's called the Spotlight.  This 
is a search tool.  Press command/spacebar to open an edit box.  type in what 
you're looking for, such as "user guide,"  and you'll get a number of potential 
hits, which you can access with arrows or VO arrows.

  I hope I've helped rather than confused you.  

  Best of luck, and I hope you enjoy your mac-journey as I'm enjoying mine.

  Take care

  carolyn
  Geoff

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Re: safari troubles

[Scott Granados]

Is there a way to restore VO to factory defaults?

Maybe a refresh is in order, or cache clearing?

- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Goodin" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: safari troubles


I just tried three different Google searches and am not seeing this 
behavior.  Weird.

Donna
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:


I thought I was losing my mind.  I'm having this same behavior as well.

Is there a fix?

I need to use google.:)

- Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: safari troubles



Hi Chad Baker,

This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
crashes and restarts itself.


I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
that the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message 
turned of, but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This 
restart behaviour is documented in the voice over manual, but in the 
safari situation it is of little or no help, because even though v o does 
restart and you are never left without speech, you cannot get past the 
spot on the webpage where this occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the 
situation and behaviour is normal after that, but opening safari on the 
same page gives the same result every time. Anybody an idea what happens 
here?

- Original Message - From: "chad baker" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: safari troubles



Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following 
welcome to mac osx 10.

I resetted it but no luck.

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Re: For Scott G. Out of box, then what?For Geoff

[Scott Granados]

This is great, thank you and everyone else.


What did I do before the Internet to learn things?

Amazing, thank you all again.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Carolyn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:44 AM
  Subject: Fw: For Scott G. Out of box, then what?For Geoff


  Hi Scott:
  I'm going to clean up and recycle a post from earlier this month wherein I 
tried to answer a few questions and give another lister  a couple things that 
helped me in getting started with the Mac from JFW.  Hope these help some.

  Having cleaned it up, I also appologize to Geoff and other listers for how 
sloppy my original post was.  Yet another learning experience:).


  Carolyn 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carolyn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Out of box, then what?
  A couple keyboard basics: 
  From your spacebar left there are the following:  Command, option, control, 
function.  From the spacebar to the right you'll have command, option, and then 
your arrows.  Everything you really need to get started is contained right 
there in the mac, including the getting started voiceover tutorial, and 
"getting started with snow leopard."  It might be titled users guide. Just a 
couple of very brief comparisons:  

  At first, the mac may seem a bit labor intensive.  It's a whole different 
animal, and a whole different way of accessing the screen.  The command key is 
in the same place as an alt key on a pc keyboard, and in some cases functions 
in the same manner, such as when you move through open applications by using 
alt/tab.  The voiceover commands are accessed by using control and option 
together.  These are often referred to as the voiceover or VO keys.  They are 
next to the command key, on the left side), and a lot of things are accessed by 
pressing other keys with them.  

To get a feel for where things are on the keyboard, press command/k to get 
into "keyboard help."  If you are on a laptop, such as a macbook pro, page up, 
page down, home and End keys are accessed by using fn/arrow keys.   
For purposes of voiceover, you'll likely want to change your function keys 
from accessing hardware functions to accessing software functions.  You can do 
this by going to apple menu.   Press vo/m.   You'll hear menu, apple.  Arrow 
down to hear'about this mac", "software update:, "Mac O.S.10 software", and 
"system preferences".  Select system preferences by pressing the spacebar.  
(spacebar or VO/spacebar often select and initiate things, unlike the PC where 
you would often use the enter key. 
 You can now use either your tab key or VO/right arrow to move through the 
various options under preferences.  If you vo/right arrow, or tab over to 
keyboard and select it with Vo/spacebar. Tab (or vo/right arrow) once and again 
use vo/spacebar to select keyboard.  Now vo/right arrow until you hear "use f1, 
f2, etc as standard function keys". This is a checkbbox, and you select it with 
vo/spacebar.  Press command/w to close the preferences window for now.  You can 
also access system preferences with command/comma.  This should give you enough 
to get started with.  Just remember, you can't really mess things up unless you 
start going and deleting things, or get into the library.  Unlike a windows 
system, the Library on a mac is more like a registry.  Probably want to stear 
clear of that until you're a little more familiar with things.
If you always remember command is in the alt key position, next to the 
spacebar, this key does a lot of things.  

To find anything on the mac, you can use what's called the Spotlight.  This 
is a search tool.  Press command/spacebar to open an edit box.  type in what 
you're looking for, such as "user guide,"  and you'll get a number of potential 
hits, which you can access with arrows or VO arrows.

I hope I've helped rather than confused you.  

Best of luck, and I hope you enjoy your mac-journey as I'm enjoying mine.

Take care

carolyn
Geoff

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Re: safari troubles

[Carolyn]

Hi Paul:
I think it was a case of something that got messed up with an update.  Best fix 
I've come across is to install webkit and open it before attempting to run 
Safari.

HTH
Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Erkens 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: safari troubles


  Hi Chad Baker,

  This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
  crashes and restarts itself.

  I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know that 
  the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
  but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour is 
  documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
  little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
  left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
  occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is normal 
  after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
  time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
  - Original Message - 
  From: "chad baker" 
  To: 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
  Subject: safari troubles


  > Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
  > This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
  > to mac osx 10.
  > I resetted it but no luck.
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Re: Intro and nooby questions

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Welcome Scott, great th see you on here.

I suppose you know how to interact with tables?  Also you will see a command 
key on the left of the space bar.  So for instance, if you want to copy any bit 
of text, you can hold the command key, high light the text with shift command 
(let's say if you are in an e-mail, then press command C to copy, command X to 
cut or command V to paste.  I'm not sure what you can do with your Mac Book 
Pro.  If you have the Iphone, then you may be familiar with the track commander 
gestures but I've not familiar with them yet.

If I can assist you further, then I will do so although I've only been using 
the Mac Book since May.  You can also use Windows  virtually too which I do to 
connect my windows mobile but that is quite advanced.

Kawal. 
On 25 Aug 2010, at 18:23, Scott Granados wrote:

> Morning all,
>   Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
> being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
> years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
> can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
> doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
> Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
> pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
> the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
> professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
> years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
> carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
> content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
> ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
> or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
> questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
> pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
> google first before asking the obvious.
> 
> Thanks all and take care
> Scott
> 
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Re: safari troubles

[William Windels]

he all,

I am very satisfied about safari and I have downgraded to 4.5 but I have still 
some troubles.

About crashes of voiceover:

Perhaps you can report that to : accessibil...@apple.com with the following 
info:

so, could you please send us the following files so that we can analyze the 
crash:

The crash reports for VoiceOver will be saved in the following location. Please 
archive any VoiceOver crashes and attach them your response along with a copy 
of the VoiceOver preferences file.

/Library/Logs/DiagnoticReports/

To save a copy of the preferences :
Open the VoiceOver Utility
Go to the File menu in the MenuBar and select Export Preferences. 

I hope they will solve the different problems with safari and vo soon because , 
we as vo-users , don't have a alternative, accessible browser.

so, pls report it...

best regards,
William
Op 25-aug-2010, om 20:46 heeft Carolyn het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Paul:
> I think it was a case of something that got messed up with an update.  Best 
> fix I've come across is to install webkit and open it before attempting to 
> run Safari.
>  
> HTH
> Carolyn
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Erkens
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: safari troubles
> 
> Hi Chad Baker,
> 
> This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
> crashes and restarts itself.
> 
> I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know that 
> the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
> but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour is 
> documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
> little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
> left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
> occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is normal 
> after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
> time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "chad baker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
> Subject: safari troubles
> 
> 
> > Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
> > This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
> > to mac osx 10.
> > I resetted it but no luck.
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Re: safari troubles

[Scott Granados]

Where do you get webkit?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Carolyn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:46 AM
  Subject: Re: safari troubles


  Hi Paul:
  I think it was a case of something that got messed up with an update.  Best 
fix I've come across is to install webkit and open it before attempting to run 
Safari.

  HTH
  Carolyn
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Erkens 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: safari troubles


Hi Chad Baker,

This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
crashes and restarts itself.

I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
that 
the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour 
is 
documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is 
normal 
after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
- Original Message - 
From: "chad baker" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: safari troubles


> Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
> This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
> to mac osx 10.
> I resetted it but no luck.
>
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Downloading in safari?

[Scott Granados]

Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and a 
1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?


I don't see a download button.

Thank you
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Re: Seeking enlightenment in regards to iTunes equalizer

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

the boxes with the lower number of HZ, on the left side, adjust the  
amount of bass; the next four or so will tweak the midrange of a  
sound, and the last few will adjust the high end or treble of a  
sound.  You can't do any damage; you can always turn it off again or  
just not save the changes you make, so play around with it; turn on a  
track and then go into the equalizer and mess with stuff; interact  
with the sliders and play with them.



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Re: Downloading in safari?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Scott.

There is no download button.  Fusion is the best as I use it for my windows 
needs.

Your file should download once you press enter on it.  Then interact with the 
download list, by interacting with VO shift down arrow.  Then if you vo right 
arrow to the right, you will see an indicator and hear a ticking noise so you 
can hear and see how the download progress is going.  If you do try and quit 
Safari by doing command Q, then you'll get voice over asking you if you want to 
continue to download the file.

I hope that is OK and please someone chime in if I'm incorrect about anything.

Kawal.

On 25 Aug 2010, at 20:57, Scott Granados wrote:

> Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and a 
> 1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?
> 
> I don't see a download button.
> 
> Thank you
> Scott
> 
> P.S.  Thank you for all the help, I'm starting to get oriented and starting 
> to really dig safari.
> 
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Re: Downloading in safari?

[Scott Granados]

Interesting, so my download seems hung up.  I'll keep experimenting.

Boy this is onehell of a learning curve but I can already tell the effort is 
well worth it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Downloading in safari?


Hi Scott.

There is no download button.  Fusion is the best as I use it for my windows 
needs.


Your file should download once you press enter on it.  Then interact with 
the download list, by interacting with VO shift down arrow.  Then if you vo 
right arrow to the right, you will see an indicator and hear a ticking noise 
so you can hear and see how the download progress is going.  If you do try 
and quit Safari by doing command Q, then you'll get voice over asking you if 
you want to continue to download the file.


I hope that is OK and please someone chime in if I'm incorrect about 
anything.


Kawal.

On 25 Aug 2010, at 20:57, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and 
a 1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?


I don't see a download button.

Thank you
Scott

P.S.  Thank you for all the help, I'm starting to get oriented and 
starting to really dig safari.



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Re: VmWare Fusion 3.1.1

[Scott Howell]

This issue is being worked by the folks at VMWare. I have filed a bug report 
and they stated they would be in touch as soon as they could determine how to 
correct the problem. Needless to say, it will be in a software release.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Ever find anything? The volume level difference between VO and Jaws is 
> substantial. Only workaround I could think of was to turn the VO volume way 
> down so that Jaws is about the same and then bring the overall system volume 
> way up.
> 
> CB
> 
> Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>> Mike are the volume levels the same? I have reverted back to 3.0.0 because 
>> the audio level when even installing from scratch is 30 to 40% lower than 
>> the volume under 3.0.0. In fact under Fusion 3.0.0, the audio levels were 
>> equal. I am now in discussions with VmWare Support and hopefully they will 
>> have some ideas. They did have me remove VMWare completely and install from 
>> scratch. This did not resolve the issue and I really cannot loose audio to 
>> this degree.
>> So, if I find a solution, I will share with the group.
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> H, on one of my mac minis, I upgraded, and the audio is working fine 
>>> with windows XP.
>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Folks,
 
 I cannot recommend upgrading to the most recent version of VmWare's 
 Fusion. Not only have they not corrected the volume issue, there is now a 
 more significant problem. The audio is so choppy as to be useless. I do 
 not know what the hell VmWare is doing, but they have really screwed 
 things up in my opinion. It seems contacting them is no easy task either, 
 so if anyone has a simple way to reach support, please let me know. I am 
 just really disappointed in the last two versions.
 
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Re: Downloading in safari?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Scott,

Just remembered, if the download does not work, can you do voiceover shift M 
and arrow down until you get the file to download?  Voice over M is like shift 
F10 on a windows keyboard or the application key to bring up the context menu.

Tell us if that helps.

Kawal.

On 25 Aug 2010, at 22:40, Scott Granados wrote:

> Interesting, so my download seems hung up.  I'll keep experimenting.
> 
> Boy this is onehell of a learning curve but I can already tell the effort is 
> well worth it.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Downloading in safari?
> 
> 
> Hi Scott.
> 
> There is no download button.  Fusion is the best as I use it for my windows 
> needs.
> 
> Your file should download once you press enter on it.  Then interact with the 
> download list, by interacting with VO shift down arrow.  Then if you vo right 
> arrow to the right, you will see an indicator and hear a ticking noise so you 
> can hear and see how the download progress is going.  If you do try and quit 
> Safari by doing command Q, then you'll get voice over asking you if you want 
> to continue to download the file.
> 
> I hope that is OK and please someone chime in if I'm incorrect about anything.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 25 Aug 2010, at 20:57, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and a 
>> 1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?
>> 
>> I don't see a download button.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Scott
>> 
>> P.S.  Thank you for all the help, I'm starting to get oriented and starting 
>> to really dig safari.
>> 
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Re: vo settings are trashed

[Ricardo Walker]

I think this is just a voiceover gremlin. :).  It strikes at unpredictable 
intervals.  It hasn't happened to me in a very long time though. (knock on 
wood)  I suggest exporting your VO settings and saving somewhere so if and when 
it happens again, you can just import them back to voiceover and you won't be 
so put out.

hth
On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Right,  I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now.  I was just 
> computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover 
> turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings.  This 
> is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, 
> and it has officially become a bother.  I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro 
> running the latest snow leopard with all updates.
> 
> Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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viewing only new messages in main

[Michael Thurman]

Hi there
is there an easy way to just see your new messages in main since google seems 
incapable of actually deleting messages and not shoving them back into my mail 
ap again and again. I have almost 1000 messages in my in box and am abotu ready 
to just blow them all away and start over IF I could get google to cooperate  
but wow I hae to miss important stuff

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adium and irc and growl

[Michael Thurman]

has anyone found a more recent version of adium that actually works with growl? 
the beta I downloaded a bit ago doesn't have it's growl stuff wrking yet, so 
doing irc with it is a real pain  to in fact I'mstill using a windows machine 
to do irc chat  pretty sad since I have a mac and fiugred that everythign would 
atually work :)
I really wanted to walk away from windows except for games

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Re: safari troubles

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

Great to see you on here.

I think this link should start the download of the latest build of webkit
WebKit r65825

hth
On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Where do you get webkit?
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Carolyn
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: safari troubles
> 
> Hi Paul:
> I think it was a case of something that got messed up with an update.  Best 
> fix I've come across is to install webkit and open it before attempting to 
> run Safari.
>  
> HTH
> Carolyn
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Erkens
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: safari troubles
> 
> Hi Chad Baker,
> 
> This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
> crashes and restarts itself.
> 
> I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know that 
> the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
> but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour is 
> documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
> little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
> left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
> occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is normal 
> after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
> time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "chad baker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
> Subject: safari troubles
> 
> 
> > Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
> > This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
> > to mac osx 10.
> > I resetted it but no luck.
> >
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Re: viewing only new messages in main

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello go to the date column and sort down with vo shift backslash then go to 
view, hit enter on sort by thread and view and collapse by thread. Now when you 
go to the top of the email table you can just read the new ones by  opening  
the thread with the right arrow and collapse it with left arrow then hit enter 
on the  unread image and there ya go. it might sound like a lot but I can skim 
through about 1000 messages in minutes.


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> Hi there
> is there an easy way to just see your new messages in main since google seems 
> incapable of actually deleting messages and not shoving them back into my 
> mail ap again and again. I have almost 1000 messages in my in box and am 
> about to   ready to just blow them all away and start over IF I could get 
> google to cooperate  but wow I hate to miss important stuff
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Re: safari troubles

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Ricardo.

I'm not sure what Web kit does.  Should it compliment Safari?  Or does it 
replace Safari?  Is it easy to use and is it better than Safari?

Kawal.

On 25 Aug 2010, at 23:35, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> Great to see you on here.
> 
> I think this link should start the download of the latest build of webkit
> WebKit r65825
> 
> hth
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Where do you get webkit?
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Carolyn
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>> 
>> Hi Paul:
>> I think it was a case of something that got messed up with an update.  Best 
>> fix I've come across is to install webkit and open it before attempting to 
>> run Safari.
>>  
>> HTH
>> Carolyn
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Paul Erkens
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>> 
>> Hi Chad Baker,
>> 
>> This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
>> crashes and restarts itself.
>> 
>> I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know that 
>> the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
>> but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour is 
>> documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
>> little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
>> left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
>> occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is normal 
>> after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
>> time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "chad baker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
>> Subject: safari troubles
>> 
>> 
>> > Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
>> > This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
>> > to mac osx 10.
>> > I resetted it but no luck.
>> >
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Re: adium and irc and growl

[Sarah Alawami]

I dunno since i don't use the beta and i uninstalled growl. If you can go back 
to th elatest version which was Adium 1.3.10

Take care.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> has anyone found a more recent version of adium that actually works with 
> growl? the beta I downloaded a bit ago doesn't have it's growl stuff wrking 
> yet, so doing irc with it is a real pain  to in fact I'mstill using a windows 
> machine to do irc chat  pretty sad since I have a mac and fiugred that 
> everythign would atually work :)
> I really wanted to walk away from windows except for games
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Re: safari troubles

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Hi scott,

You can reset voiceover to the default settings by opening voiceover utilities 
with control option F8, then press control f2 or control option M to go to the 
menu bar.  The setting to reset is found under the file menu.

hth
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Is there a way to restore VO to factory defaults?
> 
> Maybe a refresh is in order, or cache clearing?
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: safari troubles
> 
> 
> I just tried three different Google searches and am not seeing this behavior. 
>  Weird.
> Donna
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I thought I was losing my mind.  I'm having this same behavior as well.
>> 
>> Is there a fix?
>> 
>> I need to use google.:)
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Chad Baker,
>>> 
>>> This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
>>> crashes and restarts itself.
>>> 
>>> I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
>>> that the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message 
>>> turned of, but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart 
>>> behaviour is documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari 
>>> situation it is of little or no help, because even though v o does restart 
>>> and you are never left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the 
>>> webpage where this occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and 
>>> behaviour is normal after that, but opening safari on the same page gives 
>>> the same result every time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
>>> - Original Message - From: "chad baker" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
>>> Subject: safari troubles
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
 This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
 to mac osx 10.
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Re: Downloading in safari?

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>> There is no context menu in the download list as far as i can see. I had 
>> hung downloads wherein I had to serf back to the site and re download then 
>> clear the .zip.download or what ever it was.


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On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> Just remembered, if the download does not work, can you do voiceover shift M 
> and arrow down until you get the file to download?  Voice over M is like 
> shift F10 on a windows keyboard or the application key to bring up the 
> context menu.
> 
> Tell us if that helps.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 25 Aug 2010, at 22:40, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Interesting, so my download seems hung up.  I'll keep experimenting.
>> 
>> Boy this is onehell of a learning curve but I can already tell the effort is 
>> well worth it.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Downloading in safari?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Scott.
>> 
>> There is no download button.  Fusion is the best as I use it for my windows 
>> needs.
>> 
>> Your file should download once you press enter on it.  Then interact with 
>> the download list, by interacting with VO shift down arrow.  Then if you vo 
>> right arrow to the right, you will see an indicator and hear a ticking noise 
>> so you can hear and see how the download progress is going.  If you do try 
>> and quit Safari by doing command Q, then you'll get voice over asking you if 
>> you want to continue to download the file.
>> 
>> I hope that is OK and please someone chime in if I'm incorrect about 
>> anything.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 25 Aug 2010, at 20:57, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and 
>>> a 1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?
>>> 
>>> I don't see a download button.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> P.S.  Thank you for all the help, I'm starting to get oriented and starting 
>>> to really dig safari.
>>> 
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Re: safari troubles

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Kawal,

I recommend webkit if you find safari acting up like the behavior some list 
members are describing.  Webkit is the underlying engine that safari runs on if 
I understand it correctly.  Installing the nightly build of webkit has many of 
the bug fixes that will find its way into safari in updates months in the 
future.  The risk is, webkit can introduce some bugs that safari didn't have.  
My understanding is these are resolved fairly quick.  I have downloaded webkit 
about 2 months ago and haven't updated it since.  I see no reason to do so 
since it works perfectly.  As far as the look and feel of webkit, you wouldn't 
be able to tell the difference between webkit and safari. :).  All the commands 
and layout is the same.  It even says safari in the menu bar.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hi Ricardo.
> 
> I'm not sure what Web kit does.  Should it compliment Safari?  Or does it 
> replace Safari?  Is it easy to use and is it better than Safari?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 25 Aug 2010, at 23:35, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> Great to see you on here.
>> 
>> I think this link should start the download of the latest build of webkit
>> WebKit r65825
>> 
>> hth
>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Where do you get webkit?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Carolyn
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>>> 
>>> Hi Paul:
>>> I think it was a case of something that got messed up with an update.  Best 
>>> fix I've come across is to install webkit and open it before attempting to 
>>> run Safari.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> Carolyn
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Paul Erkens
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>>> 
>>> Hi Chad Baker,
>>> 
>>> This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
>>> crashes and restarts itself.
>>> 
>>> I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
>>> that 
>>> the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message turned of, 
>>> but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart behaviour 
>>> is 
>>> documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari situation it is of 
>>> little or no help, because even though v o does restart and you are never 
>>> left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the webpage where this 
>>> occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation and behaviour is 
>>> normal 
>>> after that, but opening safari on the same page gives the same result every 
>>> time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "chad baker" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
>>> Subject: safari troubles
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
 This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
 to mac osx 10.
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Re: safari, blackboard, and downloading files

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

Have you tried pressing option enter on the link that contains the file you 
want?  This works often for me.

hth
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> Hello all,
> My school uses the Blackboard platform for accessing course materials such as 
> power point slides and course assignments. I can access the site and navigate 
> fine, but I cannot figure out how to download the files I need for my 
> courses. When I pull up a context menu on the link to try and download it, 
> the file being saved is an html document and not the file I want. When I just 
> click on the link blackboard pulls up another page which I assume displays 
> the content through the web browser. This is an inconvenient way to access 
> the files, if I can read them at all. The only kind of file I have been able 
> to read this way is a pdf. 
> 
> Can you guys suggest other methods for getting to the target file? Has anyone 
> else used blackboard to access course materials on a mac in the past?
> 
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Re: safari troubles

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Nice, thanks I'll check that out.  Don't think I have much set though but it 
may clear out mistakes.  I think the safari issue is something else that 
others are experiencing here.  Today not so much, I'm happy it's working so 
far.



Once I get Fusion up and running I'll at least have a familar interface so I 
can do work and learn on the same machine instead of carrying to laptops 
around.:)


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: safari troubles


Hi scott,

You can reset voiceover to the default settings by opening voiceover 
utilities with control option F8, then press control f2 or control option M 
to go to the menu bar.  The setting to reset is found under the file menu.


hth
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:


Is there a way to restore VO to factory defaults?

Maybe a refresh is in order, or cache clearing?

- Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: safari troubles


I just tried three different Google searches and am not seeing this 
behavior.  Weird.

Donna
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:


I thought I was losing my mind.  I'm having this same behavior as well.

Is there a fix?

I need to use google.:)

- Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: safari troubles



Hi Chad Baker,

This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
crashes and restarts itself.


I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
that the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message 
turned of, but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This 
restart behaviour is documented in the voice over manual, but in the 
safari situation it is of little or no help, because even though v o 
does restart and you are never left without speech, you cannot get past 
the spot on the webpage where this occurs. Closing safari gets you out 
of the situation and behaviour is normal after that, but opening safari 
on the same page gives the same result every time. Anybody an idea what 
happens here?

- Original Message - From: "chad baker" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: safari troubles



Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following 
welcome to mac osx 10.

I resetted it but no luck.

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Re: viewing only new messages in main

[Sarah Alawami]

Oh and i'll follow up. I forgot to add to my reply to create rules. you can do 
this from with in the message or while you are pointing to it.

1. highlight the message and hit cmd ca-ma.

2. tab or shift tab to rules button and vo space on it.

3. tab to or vo right to add and vo space on it.

4. Fill in the prompts. You must interact with criteria and actions. you can 
add more then 1 criteria for the rule. I choose subject and edit that as needed 
and then i create a new mail box somewhere and choose move. I created all of my 
mailboxes on the imap server. Accessing messages are a little slower on imap 
but I get to see them later on my gmail page as well.

Take care.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> Hi there
> is there an easy way to just see your new messages in main since google seems 
> incapable of actually deleting messages and not shoving them back into my 
> mail ap again and again. I have almost 1000 messages in my in box and am 
> abotu ready to just blow them all away and start over IF I could get google 
> to cooperate  but wow I hae to miss important stuff
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Re: safari troubles

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Oh,

and I recommend exporting your voiceover preferences.  Sometimes it will just 
reset on you for no reason.  Open up the VO utility and you will find export 
settings in the file menu.  If you ever need to get your settings back, you 
just go to VO prefs again and go to import under the file menu.  It's a chance 
it won't happen to you but, its better to be prepared.  Trust me.  lol
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> Nice, thanks I'll check that out.  Don't think I have much set though but it 
> may clear out mistakes.  I think the safari issue is something else that 
> others are experiencing here.  Today not so much, I'm happy it's working so 
> far.
> 
> 
> Once I get Fusion up and running I'll at least have a familar interface so I 
> can do work and learn on the same machine instead of carrying to laptops 
> around.:)
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: safari troubles
> 
> 
> Hi scott,
> 
> You can reset voiceover to the default settings by opening voiceover 
> utilities with control option F8, then press control f2 or control option M 
> to go to the menu bar.  The setting to reset is found under the file menu.
> 
> hth
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Is there a way to restore VO to factory defaults?
>> 
>> Maybe a refresh is in order, or cache clearing?
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>> 
>> 
>> I just tried three different Google searches and am not seeing this 
>> behavior.  Weird.
>> Donna
>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought I was losing my mind.  I'm having this same behavior as well.
>>> 
>>> Is there a fix?
>>> 
>>> I need to use google.:)
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: safari troubles
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi Chad Baker,
 
 This happens to me as well. In safari, when reading ahead, voice over 
 crashes and restarts itself.
 
 I cannot solve your problem, but I just want to let you and others know 
 that the problem is not unique to your mac. I have my welcome message 
 turned of, but voice over seems to crash and restarts itself. This restart 
 behaviour is documented in the voice over manual, but in the safari 
 situation it is of little or no help, because even though v o does restart 
 and you are never left without speech, you cannot get past the spot on the 
 webpage where this occurs. Closing safari gets you out of the situation 
 and behaviour is normal after that, but opening safari on the same page 
 gives the same result every time. Anybody an idea what happens here?
 - Original Message - From: "chad baker" 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:48 PM
 Subject: safari troubles
 
 
> Hi safari has been running good up until this morning.
> This is what happens i do a google search and i get the following welcome 
> to mac osx 10.
> I resetted it but no luck.
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Re: Downloading in safari?

[Carolyn]

Scott:
If I'm understanding your question correctly, you're showing "download list", 
and then perhaps some names of files, and then the message about clear/delete 
files that have been downloaded.  When you get this message, you wouldn't know 
it, but the download is already going on in the background.  Learned this in my 
Apple one to one training.  HTH
Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:57 PM
  Subject: Downloading in safari?


  Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and a 
  1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?

  I don't see a download button.

  Thank you
  Scott

  P.S.  Thank you for all the help, I'm starting to get oriented and starting 
  to really dig safari.


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Re: Downloading in safari?

[Scott Granados]

Kawal, this worked perfectly.

Thanks!

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Downloading in safari?


Hi Scott.

There is no download button.  Fusion is the best as I use it for my windows 
needs.


Your file should download once you press enter on it.  Then interact with 
the download list, by interacting with VO shift down arrow.  Then if you vo 
right arrow to the right, you will see an indicator and hear a ticking noise 
so you can hear and see how the download progress is going.  If you do try 
and quit Safari by doing command Q, then you'll get voice over asking you if 
you want to continue to download the file.


I hope that is OK and please someone chime in if I'm incorrect about 
anything.


Kawal.

On 25 Aug 2010, at 20:57, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, so I have vmware fusion in my download list, I find a clear button and 
a 1 downloads button.  How do I start the process?


I don't see a download button.

Thank you
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Re: Intro and nooby questions

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi Scott:
First of all. Keep in mind that Jaws isn't like Voice over, and Snow Leopard 
isn't like Windows. In orther words, they'll behave differently, so take all 
your preconceived expectations, and shelve them. You will be able to learn what 
is necessary without expectations. 
Second, go to www.blindcooltech.com, and download all podcasts by Mike Arrigo. 
There are 13 of them, and they are wonderful.
Then go to www.myfirstmac.com and read the very helpful articles.
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On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Welcome aboard, Scott.  this is a great list, I think you'll find it very 
> helpful.
> Take care,
> Donna
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Morning all,
>>  Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
>> being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
>> years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
>> can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
>> doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
>> Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
>> pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
>> the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
>> professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
>> years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
>> carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
>> content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
>> ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
>> or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
>> questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
>> pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
>> google first before asking the obvious.
>> 
>> Thanks all and take care
>> Scott
>> 
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Re: Intro and nooby questions

[Kimberly thurman]

Scott, congrats on the new MBP.  Good to see you here from the MSP list.  I got 
my MBP back in December and really do love it.  At first, patience will be your 
best bet.  From what I know of you from other lists, you will have no trouble 
at all.Have you made the jump to iPhone yet, or just the MBP?  I still have 
my HTC Touch Pro and am waiting for Sprint to get the iPhone.  When that 
happens, I'm there.  Unless something astounding happens with Android's 
accessibility between now and then, where Android leaves the iPhone in the 
dust.  I still have serious phone confusion, so I'm sticking with what I have 
for the time being.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Morning all,
>   Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one
> being an owner of a new Macbook Pro.  I have been a JFW user for going on 14
> years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks
> can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of
> doing things.  Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with
> Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial?  Any getting started
> pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from
> the windows JFW world to Mac.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My
> professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20
> years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large
> carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale
> content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies
> ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series
> or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity
> questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02.  Thanks in advance for any
> pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use
> google first before asking the obvious.
> 
> Thanks all and take care
> Scott
> 
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bookshare books

[Rafaela Freundt]

Hi list,

I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the iPod 
touch.
any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks all,

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Weird wireless Issue with Macbook Pro

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

All:
This morning I had a weird issue. Neither my MBP, nor work laptop could connect 
wirelessly to the Linksys WRT54G router. I reset the router and modem. The 
Windows PC could connect, however the MBP said Airport has assigned itself the 
IP address 192.169.254.xxx. Failed to connect to the Internet. My router was 
seen in the list of wireless connections, and it was checked. I was able to 
connect via Ethernet cable. I ended up going to system preferences, choosing 
log out when dis connecting, use Mac as wireless hot spot, and deleted the 
network from my preferred networks. I was able to connect again. I got lucky.
Has anyone ever seen this? Do you know of any good Mac networking 
troubleshooting resources?


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Re: bookshare books

[Sarah Alawami]

Nope. they are in dasi 3.0 while the dasi reader on the apps store only 
supports dasi 2.0. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it is what it is.
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> Hi list,
> 
> I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the iPod 
> touch.
> any suggestions are appreciated.
> 
> Thanks all,
> 
> Rafaela
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Re: bookshare books

[Rafaela Freundt]

Thanks Sarah, but i've heard about this indaisye app?
do you guys know what it is? it doesn't read bookshare books does it?

thanks again,

Rafaela
El 25/08/2010, a las 20:39, Sarah Alawami escribió:

> Nope. they are in dasi 3.0 while the dasi reader on the apps store only 
> supports dasi 2.0. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it is what it is.
> Sarah Alawami
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> On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the iPod 
>> touch.
>> any suggestions are appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks all,
>> 
>> Rafaela
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Re: bookshare books

[Sarah Alawami]

No i have no clue. That's the first I've heard of it. If it doesn't support 
dasi3 it win't read bookshare, rfb&d and nls.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote:

> Thanks Sarah, but i've heard about this indaisye app?
> do you guys know what it is? it doesn't read bookshare books does it?
> 
> thanks again,
> 
> Rafaela
> El 25/08/2010, a las 20:39, Sarah Alawami escribió:
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>> Nope. they are in dasi 3.0 while the dasi reader on the apps store only 
>> supports dasi 2.0. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it is what it is.
>> Sarah Alawami
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>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the iPod 
>>> touch.
>>> any suggestions are appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks all,
>>> 
>>> Rafaela
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Re: bookshare books

[Rafaela Freundt]

it seems it does, i read on the app store it supports standard daisy 3 but i 
don't wanna risck˚ $20 something if it won't work.
oh and something else. Do you guys know if there is another way of reading 
bookshare books on the mac not using safari?
because when i'm reading a book in safari and then move somewhere else, or want 
to return to another part of the book, it doesn't work so great.

thanks again,

Rafaela
El 25/08/2010, a las 22:01, Sarah Alawami escribió:

> No i have no clue. That's the first I've heard of it. If it doesn't support 
> dasi3 it win't read bookshare, rfb&d and nls.
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Sarah, but i've heard about this indaisye app?
>> do you guys know what it is? it doesn't read bookshare books does it?
>> 
>> thanks again,
>> 
>> Rafaela
>> El 25/08/2010, a las 20:39, Sarah Alawami escribió:
>> 
>>> Nope. they are in dasi 3.0 while the dasi reader on the apps store only 
>>> supports dasi 2.0. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it is what it is.
>>> Sarah Alawami
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>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote:
>>> 
 Hi list,
 
 I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the iPod 
 touch.
 any suggestions are appreciated.
 
 Thanks all,
 
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Re: Can't Switch Through Applications Sometimes...

[Justin Kauflin]

It can be just one window or 4.  It doesn't seem to make a difference.  Very 
strange thing.

Justin
On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> When this happens, how many applications are running?
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone,
>>Just recently, I've been running into a strange situation on my MacBook 
>> Pro.  Sometimes when I boot up, I can load applications like Mail and 
>> Safari, with no problems but when I press Command Tab, it only brings me to 
>> the Finder window.  The only way I can get back into the app is by choosing 
>> it in the Doc.  I've tried restarting Voice Over, but that doesn't  help.  
>> The only thing I can do to fix it is by restarting the computer.  Is any one 
>> else experiencing anything like this?  Its getting a little annoying.
>>Oh, yeah, I'm also running Boot Camp and am wondering if this could be 
>> complicating things?  Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Justin
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Re: Can't Switch Through Applications Sometimes...

[Sarah Alawami]

Do any of you see a pattern to this, cause in my tired mind I can't. The only 
fix for me and it looks like everyone else is to reboot.

Take care.


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On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> It can be just one window or 4.  It doesn't seem to make a difference.  Very 
> strange thing.
> 
> Justin
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> When this happens, how many applications are running?
>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>   Just recently, I've been running into a strange situation on my MacBook 
>>> Pro.  Sometimes when I boot up, I can load applications like Mail and 
>>> Safari, with no problems but when I press Command Tab, it only brings me to 
>>> the Finder window.  The only way I can get back into the app is by choosing 
>>> it in the Doc.  I've tried restarting Voice Over, but that doesn't  help.  
>>> The only thing I can do to fix it is by restarting the computer.  Is any 
>>> one else experiencing anything like this?  Its getting a little annoying.
>>>   Oh, yeah, I'm also running Boot Camp and am wondering if this could be 
>>> complicating things?  Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Justin
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