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Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-25, at 2:08 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hello Scott, > > I too am trying to make friends with a new MacBookPro and probably need to > pretend that my XP machine is not here when I'm using email or the web. > > I found the voiceOver documentation lacking in that instead of describing the > regular system commands for performing functions, they document commands that > are identical, yet unique to voiceOver which involve more key strokes. One > example is VO+m to activate the menu which takes three fingers on two hands > while control+f2 accomplishes the same thing. I also want as little to do as > possible with the special VO cursor. I'm not sure about interacting yet. It > seems analogous to JFW placing web pages into a buffer and activating the > virtual cursor by default, except that you don't have to issue a four key > combination (control+option+shift+downArrow) or a two finger flick via the > trackpad commander to make this happen. Same deal with text. I have a lot > to learn but the voiceOver manual describes having to interact with text and > use five finger key strokes (slight exaggeration) to read anything, and I > miss having the same keys available to everyone else such as arrow keys > without quicknav or locking VO mode which essentially changes the keyboard to > navigate around. So many have switched from XP so I know there's a better > way. > > Anyway Sarah recently posted a site listing many standard system keyboard > commands. Its apparently not complete because control+f2 is not listed, but > you may want to check URL: http://www.danrodney.com/mac/ > > Also everyone recommends these instructional podcasts created by vision > Australia, but the few I listened to didn't have any information that is not > already documented in the voiceOver getting started manual. > > I too will be following this thread closely,, but I know I need to just start > leaving my XP machines off and do as much as I can on the Mac in order to > learn how to make navigation feel less cumbersome than it seems right now. > Take care. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Granados > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: Intro and nooby questions > > Morning all, > Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one > being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 > years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks > can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of > doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with > Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started > pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from > the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My > professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 > years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large > carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale > content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies > ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series > or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity > questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any > pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use > google first before asking the obvious. > > Thanks all and take care > Scott > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
