Hello Scott, I too am trying to make friends with a new MacBookPro and probably need to pretend that my XP machine is not here when I'm using email or the web.
I found the voiceOver documentation lacking in that instead of describing the regular system commands for performing functions, they document commands that are identical, yet unique to voiceOver which involve more key strokes. One example is VO+m to activate the menu which takes three fingers on two hands while control+f2 accomplishes the same thing. I also want as little to do as possible with the special VO cursor. I'm not sure about interacting yet. It seems analogous to JFW placing web pages into a buffer and activating the virtual cursor by default, except that you don't have to issue a four key combination (control+option+shift+downArrow) or a two finger flick via the trackpad commander to make this happen. Same deal with text. I have a lot to learn but the voiceOver manual describes having to interact with text and use five finger key strokes (slight exaggeration) to read anything, and I miss having the same keys available to everyone else such as arrow keys without quicknav or locking VO mode which essentially changes the keyboard to navigate around. So many have switched from XP so I know there's a better way. Anyway Sarah recently posted a site listing many standard system keyboard commands. Its apparently not complete because control+f2 is not listed, but you may want to check URL: http://www.danrodney.com/mac/ Also everyone recommends these instructional podcasts created by vision Australia, but the few I listened to didn't have any information that is not already documented in the voiceOver getting started manual. I too will be following this thread closely,, but I know I need to just start leaving my XP machines off and do as much as I can on the Mac in order to learn how to make navigation feel less cumbersome than it seems right now. Take care. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: Intro and nooby questions Morning all, Some of you probably know me from other lists and I've joined this one being an owner of a new Macbook Pro. I have been a JFW user for going on 14 years now but have never used a Mac until 2 days ago. I'm wondering if folks can give me a good starting point for orienting myself to this new way of doing things. Are there some good pointers for familiarizing yourself with Voice Over in addition to the included tutorial? Any getting started pointers would be appreciated or tips / tricks to help the transition from the windows JFW world to Mac. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My professional area of expertese is Network Engineering and I have about 20 years of experience in topics ranging from traffic engineering for large carrier networks, the finer points of running highly available large scale content provider environments and can pretty much offer tips on technologies ranging from your home wireless router on up to the latest Juniper M series or Cisco carrier class products so if there's any networking / connectivity questions I wouldn't mind adding my $.02. Thanks in advance for any pointers and I'll try to keep the rooky questions to a minimum and will use google first before asking the obvious. Thanks all and take care Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.