RE: ITunes won't start

[Joe Plummer]

Well did not know he was talking about on a Mac but it is still a good thing
to backup iTunes just in case. I usually don't have to worry about backing
up but do several backups. I use a online backup called carbonite.com and
then I back up to a external device some sort. I fully believe in backing
up, no matter what platform you use. But you did answer the question very
good.


Sign,
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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes won't start

Hi Søren,

First of all, if the crashing started when you updated to iTunes 9.1  
(the latest version), then this could be related to your navigation  
settings under VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) if you have mouse cursor  
follows VoiceOver cursor checked. If you're experiencing crashing and  
you were last set to the iTunes Store in your sources table, it could  
be due to a connection problem with the iTunes Store being down.   
Another way to check whether this is a local settings problem that  
might be a problem with your account setup and preferences rather than  
with the iTunes app is to start up iTunes in minimal form under a test  
account. If it doesn't crash, then there's either a problem file in  
your iTunes library or a problem preferences setting.

In any case, you don't have to worry about losing any of your  
purchases.  If worst came to worst, simply adding the contents of your  
Music/iTunes/Mobile Applications  folder to even a completely new  
iTunes library with the Command-O "Add to Library" shortcut would  
restore the applications. Your backups (with information about  
favorites in apps, contacts, etc.) are stored in you account under:
Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup

So it's certainly possible to recover everything.  Incidentally, I  
know that it is common under Windows to have to re-install  
applications and iTunes, but I've never had to reinstall iTunes, and I  
can count on the fingers of one hand the number of applications that  
I've had to re-install on a Mac. In those two instances, it was  
because the updated package installation changed to a completely  
different format that I wasn't confident would simply "update".

Also, if you have Time Machine running, most of this will be backed up  
already.  Let us know if you need more help.

Best,

Esther

Søren Jensen wrote:

> How do I uninstall it without removing too many files? It's both in  
> my applications folder and my users folder. Can I just remove it  
> from my applications folder without removing the folders in my users  
> folder?
> If I wanna take a backup of my stuff in Itunes, do I then just have  
> to backup the Itunes" folder in the music folder? I also have a lot  
> of apps from my Iphone which I don't wanna miss. I could of course  
> just sync my phone again..."
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>
> Den Apr 13, 2010 kl. 8:37 PM skrev Joe Plummer:
>
>> hi, uninstall it and reinstall it. if not on your main pc make sure  
>> you
>> deauthorize it and then reauthorize it when you get it reinstall. I  
>> also
>> would backup any apps and songs you have bought thru iTunes.
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>> joeplum...@tds.net
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Itunes won't start
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Suddently my Itunes has started to crash each time I try to start the
>> application. When i try to open it, I got the user notification  
>> window,
>> where I can choose to send a report to Apple, ignore or open the  
>> application
>> again. How do I fix this issue? Can I remove the preferences without
>> deleting all the music and stuff I have in my Itunes?
>> I really hope someone can help because I have to sync my Iphone  
>> with Itunes
>> to accept a new provider...
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>

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Re: ITunes won't start

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

It doesn't necessarily depend on mouse settings, however. Even if you use 
VoiceOver commands like VO-Shift-Command-T to go to the iTunes Web area to the 
SOurces table, it will crash. Also, if you move through headings blazingly 
fast, this can also crash iTunes.

However, as soon as I noticed the bug on the day iTunes update came out, I told 
Apple and they replied the same day, saying it was most likely a specific 
iTunes problem rather than anything to do with VoiceOver. They promised to look 
into it, so hopefully we'll see the fix. I'd rather not claim it is or is not a 
VOiceOver thing, as I don't know anything about iTunes, except how to use it. :)

it has sometimes been the case that VoiceOver has actually been the problem in 
other applications. But don't ask me how. I just listen and do. I am all but a 
humble underdog of Apple's superior support staff. :( Come on iTunes fix! Yay.

Regards,
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On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Joe Plummer wrote:

> Well did not know he was talking about on a Mac but it is still a good thing
> to backup iTunes just in case. I usually don't have to worry about backing
> up but do several backups. I use a online backup called carbonite.com and
> then I back up to a external device some sort. I fully believe in backing
> up, no matter what platform you use. But you did answer the question very
> good.
> 
> 
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplum...@tds.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ITunes won't start
> 
> Hi Søren,
> 
> First of all, if the crashing started when you updated to iTunes 9.1  
> (the latest version), then this could be related to your navigation  
> settings under VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) if you have mouse cursor  
> follows VoiceOver cursor checked. If you're experiencing crashing and  
> you were last set to the iTunes Store in your sources table, it could  
> be due to a connection problem with the iTunes Store being down.   
> Another way to check whether this is a local settings problem that  
> might be a problem with your account setup and preferences rather than  
> with the iTunes app is to start up iTunes in minimal form under a test  
> account. If it doesn't crash, then there's either a problem file in  
> your iTunes library or a problem preferences setting.
> 
> In any case, you don't have to worry about losing any of your  
> purchases.  If worst came to worst, simply adding the contents of your  
> Music/iTunes/Mobile Applications  folder to even a completely new  
> iTunes library with the Command-O "Add to Library" shortcut would  
> restore the applications. Your backups (with information about  
> favorites in apps, contacts, etc.) are stored in you account under:
> Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup
> 
> So it's certainly possible to recover everything.  Incidentally, I  
> know that it is common under Windows to have to re-install  
> applications and iTunes, but I've never had to reinstall iTunes, and I  
> can count on the fingers of one hand the number of applications that  
> I've had to re-install on a Mac. In those two instances, it was  
> because the updated package installation changed to a completely  
> different format that I wasn't confident would simply "update".
> 
> Also, if you have Time Machine running, most of this will be backed up  
> already.  Let us know if you need more help.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Esther
> 
> Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> How do I uninstall it without removing too many files? It's both in  
>> my applications folder and my users folder. Can I just remove it  
>> from my applications folder without removing the folders in my users  
>> folder?
>> If I wanna take a backup of my stuff in Itunes, do I then just have  
>> to backup the Itunes" folder in the music folder? I also have a lot  
>> of apps from my Iphone which I don't wanna miss. I could of course  
>> just sync my phone again..."
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>> Den Apr 13, 2010 kl. 8:37 PM skrev Joe Plummer:
>> 
>>> hi, uninstall it and reinstall it. if not on your main pc make sure  
>>> you
>>> deauthorize it and then reauthorize it when you get it reinstall. I  
>>> also
>>> would backup any apps and songs you have bought thru iTunes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sign,
>>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>>> joeplum...@tds.net
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:28 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Itunes won't start
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Suddently my Itunes has started to crash

Re: Which iPad mode is better?

[olivia norman]

I like portrait better. hold the iPad upright, and use the switch on the right 
side above the volume controls to lock it into position.
Olivia

On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape 
> better and which way is the best way to hold it?
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Re: ITunes won't start

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Esther and the others who have replied on my issue.
It seems as my issue was a combination of my preferences file which needs to be 
reset and the Vo issue. Each time I start Itunes with the cursor tracking 
turned off, it doesn't crash.
Thanks all for your help.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
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Den Apr 13, 2010 kl. 9:07 PM skrev Esther:

> Hi Søren,
> 
> First of all, you can make a backup of all your iTunes purchases, including 
> your apps, to DVD or CD.  The option's on your menu bar in File > Library > 
> Back up to Disc.  You probably don't want to back up your whole library to 
> disc, but I find it very convenient to just write purchases to DVD every so 
> often, since this also includes all apps I have purchased.  You have the 
> option to back up your entire library and playlists, just your iTunes 
> purchases, or just items in either category that were added since a previous 
> back up.
> 
> I don't think you need to uninstall iTunes.  At least, I would check over 
> some files first.  Usually, there is only a specific item that is causing 
> iTunes to crash.  What happens when you repair permissions?  The other thing 
> to try after quitting iTunes is moving your com.apple.iTunes.plist file to 
> your Desktop or other location and letting iTunes create another version.  
> These are in your Library/Preferences folder and Library/Preferences/By Host 
> folder under your account.  If moving the preference files and deleting the 
> copies in your Library/Preferences and Library/Preferences/By Host folders 
> doesn't help when your restart iTunes, you can copy the originals back.  
> Deleting preferences won't lose you any apps or settings.
> 
> I'd also check for problematic recent download files.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> How do I uninstall it without removing too many files? It's both in my 
>> applications folder and my users folder. Can I just remove it from my 
>> applications folder without removing the folders in my users folder?
>> If I wanna take a backup of my stuff in Itunes, do I then just have to 
>> backup the Itunes" folder in the music folder? I also have a lot of apps 
>> from my Iphone which I don't wanna miss. I could of course just sync my 
>> phone again..."
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>> Den Apr 13, 2010 kl. 8:37 PM skrev Joe Plummer:
>> 
>>> hi, uninstall it and reinstall it. if not on your main pc make sure you
>>> deauthorize it and then reauthorize it when you get it reinstall. I also
>>> would backup any apps and songs you have bought thru iTunes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sign,
>>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>>> joeplum...@tds.net
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:28 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Itunes won't start
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Suddently my Itunes has started to crash each time I try to start the
>>> application. When i try to open it, I got the user notification window,
>>> where I can choose to send a report to Apple, ignore or open the application
>>> again. How do I fix this issue? Can I remove the preferences without
>>> deleting all the music and stuff I have in my Itunes?
>>> I really hope someone can help because I have to sync my Iphone with Itunes
>>> to accept a new provider...
>>> Best regards
>>> Søren Jensen
>>> Mail & MSN:
>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>> 
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Re: viewing/deleting addresses from mail

[Brett Campbell]

I'm glad this helped you guys out.  This is indeed a great list.  This is where 
I learned the location of the previous recipients myself.


Brett C.

On Apr 13, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Israel wrote:

> Thank you Donna for asking the question and Brett for answering.  I just 
> asked my friend this morning this very question, but she didn't know the 
> answer so I told her I'll ask the members of Mac Visionaries and there it 
> was!  I just love this group!!
> 
> Sexy Isra
> 
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> On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> It's simple.  Go to Window on the menu bar, VO down arrow until you find 
>> Previous Recipients, enter on that and you will be able to delete away.
>> 
>> 
>> Brett C.
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'd like to delete a few addresses that Mail added as a result of email 
>>> correspondence, i.e. they're in Mail, but not in my address book.  Can 
>>> anyone tell me how to do this?
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Donna
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RE: Which iPad mode is better?

[Larry Wanger]

No right answer for this. Portrait or landscape depends entirely on the app
you are using. Some of the iPhone apps only work in portrait on either
platform for example. How you hold it is a very personal decision in terms
of what's comfortable for you. It depends on whether you're in constant
contact with the screen or just holding it while reading a book. 

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Subject: Which iPad mode is better?

Hi all,

Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape 
better and which way is the best way to hold it?

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Battery status

[Chad Rohr]

Hello,
I got a Macbook a few weeks ago and things are going great. There is one thing 
I cant figure out, is there a way to check the battery status. I have had 
someone sighted tell me what it is, but I would rather not depend on them to 
find that out.
THanks

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Re: Battery status

[Brett Campbell]

You can navigate to this area in two ways that I'm aware of.  You can either 
use the VoiceOver command VO M, pressing the M twice while holding down the 
control and option keys.  The other is a Mac command, control F8.  Use VO plus 
arrow keys to find what you're looking for.  

Brett C.

On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Chad Rohr wrote:

> Hello,
> I got a Macbook a few weeks ago and things are going great. There is one 
> thing I cant figure out, is there a way to check the battery status. I have 
> had someone sighted tell me what it is, but I would rather not depend on them 
> to find that out.
> THanks
>  
> Chad
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Re: Which iPad mode is better?

[Charlie Doremus]

Larry is correct all depends on the task at hand.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Larry Wanger  wrote:

> No right answer for this. Portrait or landscape depends entirely on the app
> you are using. Some of the iPhone apps only work in portrait on either
> platform for example. How you hold it is a very personal decision in terms
> of what's comfortable for you. It depends on whether you're in constant
> contact with the screen or just holding it while reading a book.
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Bollinger
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Which iPad mode is better?
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape
> better and which way is the best way to hold it?
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Re: Battery status

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

There is a third way to check this as well, though this is mostly useful to 
users with either a visual impairment but someone who has a bit of sight, or is 
fully sighted.

Almost all the way down the left bottom corner on your Macbook is a small 
button. The size of a paperclip. If you hold it, a light will blink on. Small 
diodes will tell you how many bars of battery are left. It also works if the 
Macbook is turned off.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

> You can navigate to this area in two ways that I'm aware of.  You can either 
> use the VoiceOver command VO M, pressing the M twice while holding down the 
> control and option keys.  The other is a Mac command, control F8.  Use VO 
> plus arrow keys to find what you're looking for.  
> 
> Brett C.
> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Chad Rohr wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I got a Macbook a few weeks ago and things are going great. There is one 
>> thing I cant figure out, is there a way to check the battery status. I have 
>> had someone sighted tell me what it is, but I would rather not depend on 
>> them to find that out.
>> THanks
>>  
>> Chad
>> 
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Re: Battery status

[Chantel Cuddemi]

You have to hit vo m twice for the menu to appear. 
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Chad Rohr wrote:

> Hello,
> I got a Macbook a few weeks ago and things are going great. There is one 
> thing I cant figure out, is there a way to check the battery status. I have 
> had someone sighted tell me what it is, but I would rather not depend on them 
> to find that out.
> THanks
>  
> Chad
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Re: Which iPad mode is better?

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Let me get this straight, though. If I understand the orientation lock feature, 
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application does not support landscape, for example? I'm talking mostly if you 
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On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> Larry is correct all depends on the task at hand.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Larry Wanger  wrote:
> No right answer for this. Portrait or landscape depends entirely on the app
> you are using. Some of the iPhone apps only work in portrait on either
> platform for example. How you hold it is a very personal decision in terms
> of what's comfortable for you. It depends on whether you're in constant
> contact with the screen or just holding it while reading a book.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Bollinger
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Which iPad mode is better?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape
> better and which way is the best way to hold it?
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Re: Which iPad mode is better?

[Charlie Doremus]

Here is the story. Most iPhone app work in portrait mode. Some iPad apps
work in landscape, AT BAT 2010 is a good example of landscape on the iPad
and portrait on the iPhone. Given the number of apps it is best to check
them out on an app by app basis.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Let me get this straight, though. If I understand the orientation lock
> feature, it will force the application into landscape or portrait,
> regardless if the application does not support landscape, for example? I'm
> talking mostly if you are using iPhone applications, because I'm sure iPad
> applications will support both.
>
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> On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>
> Larry is correct all depends on the task at hand.
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Larry Wanger  wrote:
>
>> No right answer for this. Portrait or landscape depends entirely on the
>> app
>> you are using. Some of the iPhone apps only work in portrait on either
>> platform for example. How you hold it is a very personal decision in terms
>> of what's comfortable for you. It depends on whether you're in constant
>> contact with the screen or just holding it while reading a book.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Bollinger
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Which iPad mode is better?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape
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Re: Which iPad mode is better?

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Actually, I realized I was asking a really stupid question. You can't lock it 
in an orientation if it doesn't support it. *smiles*

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> Here is the story. Most iPhone app work in portrait mode. Some iPad apps work 
> in landscape, AT BAT 2010 is a good example of landscape on the iPad and 
> portrait on the iPhone. Given the number of apps it is best to check them out 
> on an app by app basis. 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen  
> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Let me get this straight, though. If I understand the orientation lock 
> feature, it will force the application into landscape or portrait, regardless 
> if the application does not support landscape, for example? I'm talking 
> mostly if you are using iPhone applications, because I'm sure iPad 
> applications will support both.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> 
>> Larry is correct all depends on the task at hand.
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Larry Wanger  wrote:
>> No right answer for this. Portrait or landscape depends entirely on the app
>> you are using. Some of the iPhone apps only work in portrait on either
>> platform for example. How you hold it is a very personal decision in terms
>> of what's comfortable for you. It depends on whether you're in constant
>> contact with the screen or just holding it while reading a book.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Bollinger
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Which iPad mode is better?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape
>> better and which way is the best way to hold it?
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Trying new Echofon twitter for Mac, I can't read tweets.

[Brett Campbell]

Is anyone on the list trying the newly released Echofon for Mac?  It seems 
quite accessible with VoiceOver, with the slight exception that the tweets 
aren't being read.  I'm wondering if my tweets aren't being downloaded for some 
reason, or if VoiceOver can't read them.  If someone else has taken this 
twitter client for a spin, I'd be interested in hearing about your experience.


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Re: Which iPad mode is better?

[Charlie Doremus]

Correct!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Actually, I realized I was asking a really stupid question. You can't lock
> it in an orientation if it doesn't support it. *smiles*
>
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> On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>
> Here is the story. Most iPhone app work in portrait mode. Some iPad apps
> work in landscape, AT BAT 2010 is a good example of landscape on the iPad
> and portrait on the iPhone. Given the number of apps it is best to check
> them out on an app by app basis.
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Let me get this straight, though. If I understand the orientation lock
>> feature, it will force the application into landscape or portrait,
>> regardless if the application does not support landscape, for example? I'm
>> talking mostly if you are using iPhone applications, because I'm sure iPad
>> applications will support both.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>>
>> Larry is correct all depends on the task at hand.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Larry Wanger  wrote:
>>
>>> No right answer for this. Portrait or landscape depends entirely on the
>>> app
>>> you are using. Some of the iPhone apps only work in portrait on either
>>> platform for example. How you hold it is a very personal decision in
>>> terms
>>> of what's comfortable for you. It depends on whether you're in constant
>>> contact with the screen or just holding it while reading a book.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Bollinger
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:51 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Which iPad mode is better?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just wondering what those who have iPads think. Is portrait or landscape
>>> better and which way is the best way to hold it?
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Re: Trying new Echofon twitter for Mac, I can't read tweets.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Yep, all I see is an empty scroll area. I think that is the only part that does 
not work yet, but everything else looks good.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

> Is anyone on the list trying the newly released Echofon for Mac?  It seems 
> quite accessible with VoiceOver, with the slight exception that the tweets 
> aren't being read.  I'm wondering if my tweets aren't being downloaded for 
> some reason, or if VoiceOver can't read them.  If someone else has taken this 
> twitter client for a spin, I'd be interested in hearing about your experience.
> 
> 
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Just joined

[Rob Lambert]

Hello,

I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven
years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk
up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been telling
people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a shift. I
know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession of a Mac
Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have Mac
compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new software
that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about who's in
agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our industry, and
that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do.

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Re: Just joined

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hello Rob,

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Agencies are actually beginning to realize 
that Macs are, as you stated, assistive technology now. Providing training to a 
visually impaired user is also much easier. Now, you don't have to familiarize 
yourself with six or so screen readers, but only one, and not more than one 
Zoom solution. This also makes it easier on developers testing their 
applications for accessibility issues.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Rob Lambert wrote:

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> people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a shift. I know 
> many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession of a Mac Mini. At 
> CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have Mac compatibility, and 
> also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new software that's coming out, is 
> to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about who's in agreement with me, do you 
> feel we're seeing a shift in our industry, and that Windows alone will no 
> longer cut it? I certainly do. 
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Re: Just joined

[marie Howarth]

I absolutely agree with you on this. It's not all going to be about windows and 
their various third party screen readers, we as VI technology users are 
definitely being given more choice. And that is great. Just the thing we need. 
It's about time windows wasn't dominating the VI computer market. Just today 
someone implied that I "should" be adequate in Microsoft office. Why? I use a 
proficient word processor on the mac that does everything I want it to do.

On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:50, Rob Lambert wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
> years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk up 
> to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been telling 
> people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a shift. I know 
> many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession of a Mac Mini. At 
> CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have Mac compatibility, and 
> also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new software that's coming out, is 
> to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about who's in agreement with me, do you 
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> longer cut it? I certainly do. 
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Would appreciate your feedback on my new product launch for Mac

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Re: ichat and msn configuration, help needed

[William Windels]

Hi James,
I am already using adium and yes, it works for msn and facebook.

But, the reason is :
1 adium is a tird party application and, as much as possible, I try to use 
app's from Apple, if possible.
2 Adium is not made conform the apple defaults. e.
g. the preferences menu is complex and , it has not the defaults for setting up 
dialogue boxes like apple does.
I compare the preferences panel of adium with the system preferences panel of 
mac osx.
And, some other strange things like:
When you have a invitation to add a friend on facebook, adium is showing a 
dialogue box where you have buttons like: accept, accept and add...
This seems to bee buttons, voiceover said but, to let it work, you should do a 
contextmenu on this elements to accept and add.

This things are for me the reason to change to ichat.

But, it makes no sence for me to use 2 app's : one for facebook and another for 
msn.
For this reason , I stay on adium.

best regards,
William
Op 14-apr-2010, om 01:13 heeft James & Nash het volgende geschreven:

> Hi William, 
> 
> Im coming late to this thread, but is there a particular reason why you want 
> to use IChat? If not, you could try Adium. It's a multi-chat client which 
> includes MSN. That way, you don't need Jabber. Psi is completely inaccessible 
> - or at least it was, and Jabber does some weird stuff with your contacts 
> E-mail addresses.
> 
> HTH
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
> On 13 Apr 2010, at 23:33, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was trying to configure my ichat program to work with msn
>> 
>> I found a tutorial and the explanation was quite simple.
>> The only problem is that I have to install a jabber transport program.
>> In the hoot, they give 2 suggestions for programs: 
>> gajim or psi.
>> Psi is available for mac but, i think totally inaccessible.
>> And about gajim, I can't find a mac version , only different linux 
>> distributions, bsd and windows.
>> 
>> Has anyone suggestions to configure msn in ichat?
>> 
>> Thanx in advance,
>> best regards,
>> William Windels
>> 
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Re: Just joined

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Not for nothing, Most businesses in the world use Microsoft office.  Is that 
not a lone a reason to be adequate with MS office?
On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:06 PM, marie Howarth wrote:

> I absolutely agree with you on this. It's not all going to be about windows 
> and their various third party screen readers, we as VI technology users are 
> definitely being given more choice. And that is great. Just the thing we 
> need. It's about time windows wasn't dominating the VI computer market. Just 
> today someone implied that I "should" be adequate in Microsoft office. Why? I 
> use a proficient word processor on the mac that does everything I want it to 
> do.
> 
> On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:50, Rob Lambert wrote:
> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
>> years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk 
>> up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been telling 
>> people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a shift. I 
>> know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession of a Mac 
>> Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have Mac 
>> compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new software 
>> that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about who's in 
>> agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our industry, and 
>> that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do. 
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Re: Just joined

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Not really. I personally don't care if I am adequate or not in its use. If I 
have been using a Mac computer all my life, or if I didn't use Microsoft Office 
daily, I wouldn't be adequate.

SO even if you have it, adequacy is not a guarantee, regardless if it is a 
necessity to use Microsoft Office or not to do your work. Besides, a lot of 
third-party programs actually provide the same level of usefulness that 
Microsoft Office might provide, though more efficiently. One disadvantage to 
Microsoft Office is actually that it takes forever and a day to load, 
regardless of the computer, which minimizes efficiency in that you have to wait 
a few extra seconds. Even if you get it started up, the possibility is still 
that it may crash and will not remember where you left off.

Regards,
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On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not for nothing, Most businesses in the world use Microsoft office.  Is that 
> not a lone a reason to be adequate with MS office?
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:06 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
> 
>> I absolutely agree with you on this. It's not all going to be about windows 
>> and their various third party screen readers, we as VI technology users are 
>> definitely being given more choice. And that is great. Just the thing we 
>> need. It's about time windows wasn't dominating the VI computer market. Just 
>> today someone implied that I "should" be adequate in Microsoft office. Why? 
>> I use a proficient word processor on the mac that does everything I want it 
>> to do.
>> 
>> On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:50, Rob Lambert wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, 
>>> 
>>> I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
>>> years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk 
>>> up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been 
>>> telling people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a 
>>> shift. I know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession 
>>> of a Mac Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have Mac 
>>> compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new software 
>>> that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about who's in 
>>> agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our industry, and 
>>> that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do. 
>>> 
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Re: Just joined

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Of course, you have Microsoft Office for Mac, but that's  not much faster. Just 
to point that out.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not really. I personally don't care if I am adequate or not in its use. If I 
> have been using a Mac computer all my life, or if I didn't use Microsoft 
> Office daily, I wouldn't be adequate.
> 
> SO even if you have it, adequacy is not a guarantee, regardless if it is a 
> necessity to use Microsoft Office or not to do your work. Besides, a lot of 
> third-party programs actually provide the same level of usefulness that 
> Microsoft Office might provide, though more efficiently. One disadvantage to 
> Microsoft Office is actually that it takes forever and a day to load, 
> regardless of the computer, which minimizes efficiency in that you have to 
> wait a few extra seconds. Even if you get it started up, the possibility is 
> still that it may crash and will not remember where you left off.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not for nothing, Most businesses in the world use Microsoft office.  Is that 
>> not a lone a reason to be adequate with MS office?
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:06 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
>> 
>>> I absolutely agree with you on this. It's not all going to be about windows 
>>> and their various third party screen readers, we as VI technology users are 
>>> definitely being given more choice. And that is great. Just the thing we 
>>> need. It's about time windows wasn't dominating the VI computer market. 
>>> Just today someone implied that I "should" be adequate in Microsoft office. 
>>> Why? I use a proficient word processor on the mac that does everything I 
>>> want it to do.
>>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:50, Rob Lambert wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, 
 
 I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
 years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk 
 up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been 
 telling people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a 
 shift. I know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession 
 of a Mac Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have 
 Mac compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new 
 software that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about 
 who's in agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our 
 industry, and that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do. 
 
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Re: ichat and msn configuration, help needed

[James & Nash]

Hi William,

That's cool, i was just curious. 

TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
On 14 Apr 2010, at 20:34, William Windels wrote:

> Hi James,
> I am already using adium and yes, it works for msn and facebook.
> 
> But, the reason is :
> 1 adium is a tird party application and, as much as possible, I try to use 
> app's from Apple, if possible.
> 2 Adium is not made conform the apple defaults. e.
> g. the preferences menu is complex and , it has not the defaults for setting 
> up dialogue boxes like apple does.
> I compare the preferences panel of adium with the system preferences panel of 
> mac osx.
> And, some other strange things like:
> When you have a invitation to add a friend on facebook, adium is showing a 
> dialogue box where you have buttons like: accept, accept and add...
> This seems to bee buttons, voiceover said but, to let it work, you should do 
> a contextmenu on this elements to accept and add.
> 
> This things are for me the reason to change to ichat.
> 
> But, it makes no sence for me to use 2 app's : one for facebook and another 
> for msn.
> For this reason , I stay on adium.
> 
> best regards,
> William
> Op 14-apr-2010, om 01:13 heeft James & Nash het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi William, 
>> 
>> Im coming late to this thread, but is there a particular reason why you want 
>> to use IChat? If not, you could try Adium. It's a multi-chat client which 
>> includes MSN. That way, you don't need Jabber. Psi is completely 
>> inaccessible - or at least it was, and Jabber does some weird stuff with 
>> your contacts E-mail addresses.
>> 
>> HTH
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>> On 13 Apr 2010, at 23:33, William Windels wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was trying to configure my ichat program to work with msn
>>> 
>>> I found a tutorial and the explanation was quite simple.
>>> The only problem is that I have to install a jabber transport program.
>>> In the hoot, they give 2 suggestions for programs: 
>>> gajim or psi.
>>> Psi is available for mac but, i think totally inaccessible.
>>> And about gajim, I can't find a mac version , only different linux 
>>> distributions, bsd and windows.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone suggestions to configure msn in ichat?
>>> 
>>> Thanx in advance,
>>> best regards,
>>> William Windels
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Just joined

[marie Howarth]

I agree. And not to mention the fact that just because most businesses use it, 
that slowly the culture of networking is changing how business is done. I am 
much better at editing and formatting my docs than I ever was on windows and 
had used windows for several long years before that. My adequacy on the mac is 
supreme for me personally so being forced to use a product because the masses 
use it doesn't make my lack of use a negative skill. It just means I'm better 
with other programmes that do the same job. Computer skills is computer skills 
at the end of the day, isn't it?

On 14 Apr 2010, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not really. I personally don't care if I am adequate or not in its use. If I 
> have been using a Mac computer all my life, or if I didn't use Microsoft 
> Office daily, I wouldn't be adequate.
> 
> SO even if you have it, adequacy is not a guarantee, regardless if it is a 
> necessity to use Microsoft Office or not to do your work. Besides, a lot of 
> third-party programs actually provide the same level of usefulness that 
> Microsoft Office might provide, though more efficiently. One disadvantage to 
> Microsoft Office is actually that it takes forever and a day to load, 
> regardless of the computer, which minimizes efficiency in that you have to 
> wait a few extra seconds. Even if you get it started up, the possibility is 
> still that it may crash and will not remember where you left off.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not for nothing, Most businesses in the world use Microsoft office.  Is that 
>> not a lone a reason to be adequate with MS office?
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:06 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
>> 
>>> I absolutely agree with you on this. It's not all going to be about windows 
>>> and their various third party screen readers, we as VI technology users are 
>>> definitely being given more choice. And that is great. Just the thing we 
>>> need. It's about time windows wasn't dominating the VI computer market. 
>>> Just today someone implied that I "should" be adequate in Microsoft office. 
>>> Why? I use a proficient word processor on the mac that does everything I 
>>> want it to do.
>>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:50, Rob Lambert wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, 
 
 I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
 years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk 
 up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been 
 telling people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a 
 shift. I know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession 
 of a Mac Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have 
 Mac compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new 
 software that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about 
 who's in agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our 
 industry, and that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do. 
 
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weird ITunes problem

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

When I try to open itunes I am being asked to choose a library.  I've tried 
choosing a library, but when I exit ituens my settings aren't saved.  Also, 
After I choose a library, I'm not able to navigate around the songs table.  
Anyone know what might be going on?  I have not yet upgraded to the new version 
of itunes.  I did try repairing permissions, but that didn't help.
Thanks,
Donna

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never mind re weird itunes problem

[Donna Goodin]

Hi again, all,

I just tried opening iTunes in apps rather than using my shortcut, and 
everything worked fine.  So, I guess never mind, for now.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Would appreciate your feedback on my new product launch for Mac

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

They have to be familiar with VoiceOver, at least to some degree, to  attain 
VoiceOver accessibility in their applications. I think what they mean is that 
if you are familiar with the need not to install anything to get accessibility 
out of the box. They were comparing it to Windows where it is necessary to 
install third-party technology to access the computer in question.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Sounds great, but it seems as this product will only be available in the US. 
> I'm from Denmark, and I wanna help you testing it, but it wouldn't be worth 
> it if it's only for the US.
> I've just completed the survey, and I got confused about the following 
> question:
> . Are you familiar with Mac screen reader (Voice Over) and screen 
> magnification features that make Mac computers accessible right out of the 
> box without the need to install JAWS and/or ZoomText?
> I wanna ask you the same question. Sounds like you don't know much about Mac 
> computers and VOiceover, since VOiceover is the only screenreader on the Mac 
> computer, which means you can't install any other screenreader like Jaws or 
> Window Eyes if you're not familiar with VOiceover...
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
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> 
> Den Apr 14, 2010 kl. 9:07 PM skrev Kitty:
> 
>> Please take our survey.  We want to know what you think of ABiSee
>> (www.abisee.com) instant reading solutions for the Mac. As the leading
>> worldwide developer and provider of easy to use electronic readers for
>> the blind and visually challenged we are currently creating a Mac
>> version of our software. Your valuable feedback will help us better
>> serve the blind and low vision community. We thank you and look
>> forward to hearing from you. Please Click
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Re: Would appreciate your feedback on my new product launch for Mac

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.

Sounds great, but it seems as this product will only be available in the US. 
I'm from Denmark, and I wanna help you testing it, but it wouldn't be worth it 
if it's only for the US.
I've just completed the survey, and I got confused about the following question:
. Are you familiar with Mac screen reader (Voice Over) and screen magnification 
features that make Mac computers accessible right out of the box without the 
need to install JAWS and/or ZoomText?
I wanna ask you the same question. Sounds like you don't know much about Mac 
computers and VOiceover, since VOiceover is the only screenreader on the Mac 
computer, which means you can't install any other screenreader like Jaws or 
Window Eyes if you're not familiar with VOiceover...
Best regards
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Re: Just joined

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

It being a negative or a positive is completely dependent on the situation one 
finds them self in.  People use applications at work or school for example, 
just because they don't have a choice.  If my memory is correct, someone said 
you should be adequate in MS office.  On face value this is sound advice just 
because this is the standard used in many businesses and learning institutions. 
 This has nothing or very little to do with what you prefer or, what is faster 
or efficient.  It is just having a skill that many people expect as a basic 
requirement in many walks of life.  Just my 2 cents.  
On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:52 PM, marie Howarth wrote:

> I agree. And not to mention the fact that just because most businesses use 
> it, that slowly the culture of networking is changing how business is done. I 
> am much better at editing and formatting my docs than I ever was on windows 
> and had used windows for several long years before that. My adequacy on the 
> mac is supreme for me personally so being forced to use a product because the 
> masses use it doesn't make my lack of use a negative skill. It just means I'm 
> better with other programmes that do the same job. Computer skills is 
> computer skills at the end of the day, isn't it?
> 
> On 14 Apr 2010, at 20:47, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not really. I personally don't care if I am adequate or not in its use. If I 
>> have been using a Mac computer all my life, or if I didn't use Microsoft 
>> Office daily, I wouldn't be adequate.
>> 
>> SO even if you have it, adequacy is not a guarantee, regardless if it is a 
>> necessity to use Microsoft Office or not to do your work. Besides, a lot of 
>> third-party programs actually provide the same level of usefulness that 
>> Microsoft Office might provide, though more efficiently. One disadvantage to 
>> Microsoft Office is actually that it takes forever and a day to load, 
>> regardless of the computer, which minimizes efficiency in that you have to 
>> wait a few extra seconds. Even if you get it started up, the possibility is 
>> still that it may crash and will not remember where you left off.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> 
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Not for nothing, Most businesses in the world use Microsoft office.  Is 
>>> that not a lone a reason to be adequate with MS office?
>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:06 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
>>> 
 I absolutely agree with you on this. It's not all going to be about 
 windows and their various third party screen readers, we as VI technology 
 users are definitely being given more choice. And that is great. Just the 
 thing we need. It's about time windows wasn't dominating the VI computer 
 market. Just today someone implied that I "should" be adequate in 
 Microsoft office. Why? I use a proficient word processor on the mac that 
 does everything I want it to do.
 
 On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:50, Rob Lambert wrote:
 
> Hello, 
> 
> I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
> years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just 
> walk up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been 
> telling people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a 
> shift. I know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession 
> of a Mac Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have 
> Mac compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new 
> software that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about 
> who's in agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our 
> industry, and that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do. 
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Re: Would appreciate your feedback on my new product launch for Mac

[Søren Jensen]

I see. But the way the question is asked seems as they absolutely don't know 
anything about Voiceover, simply because you can't install anything to make it 
more accessible out of the box, accept for voices in other languages.
Best regards
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> Hi,
> 
> They have to be familiar with VoiceOver, at least to some degree, to  attain 
> VoiceOver accessibility in their applications. I think what they mean is that 
> if you are familiar with the need not to install anything to get 
> accessibility out of the box. They were comparing it to Windows where it is 
> necessary to install third-party technology to access the computer in 
> question.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
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> Facebook Profile
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> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Sounds great, but it seems as this product will only be available in the US. 
>> I'm from Denmark, and I wanna help you testing it, but it wouldn't be worth 
>> it if it's only for the US.
>> I've just completed the survey, and I got confused about the following 
>> question:
>> . Are you familiar with Mac screen reader (Voice Over) and screen 
>> magnification features that make Mac computers accessible right out of the 
>> box without the need to install JAWS and/or ZoomText?
>> I wanna ask you the same question. Sounds like you don't know much about Mac 
>> computers and VOiceover, since VOiceover is the only screenreader on the Mac 
>> computer, which means you can't install any other screenreader like Jaws or 
>> Window Eyes if you're not familiar with VOiceover...
>> Best regards
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
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>>> Please take our survey.  We want to know what you think of ABiSee
>>> (www.abisee.com) instant reading solutions for the Mac. As the leading
>>> worldwide developer and provider of easy to use electronic readers for
>>> the blind and visually challenged we are currently creating a Mac
>>> version of our software. Your valuable feedback will help us better
>>> serve the blind and low vision community. We thank you and look
>>> forward to hearing from you. Please Click
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Accessing Used Mac Mini

[danrathburn]

Hello,

I am considering buying a used Mac Mini from an estate sale.  The
previous owner might have left the Mini password-protected.  Is there a
way to clear any passwords  and reinstall OSX?

Thanks,

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Apple Airport Express Base Station

[Linda Adams]

Hi everyone,
 
I have just acquired this WI-Fi for my home computer.  I will be using
it for my Macbook and a PC.  This is my first experience with the Wi-Fi
so I thought I'd ask if there is anything special I should be on the
look out for as I get it set up.  My ISP is Earthlink and I have DSL.
 
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Re: ichat and msn configuration, help needed

[erik burggraaf]

I'm a big fan of, "use what works".  I love apple, but I don't love apple to 
the exclusion of all else.  As far as accessibility is concerned, it should 
make increasingly less difference what apps you use or who provides them.

I'm interested in this thread because one of my clients wants to use Ichat to 
make msn video conversations with her webcam, which isn't supported by adium.

I looked at the process, but the idea of becoming a server just to get on msn 
seemed a bit out of the way to me.

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On 2010-04-14, at 3:34 PM, William Windels wrote:

> Hi James,
> I am already using adium and yes, it works for msn and facebook.
> 
> But, the reason is :
> 1 adium is a tird party application and, as much as possible, I try to use 
> app's from Apple, if possible.
> 2 Adium is not made conform the apple defaults. e.
> g. the preferences menu is complex and , it has not the defaults for setting 
> up dialogue boxes like apple does.
> I compare the preferences panel of adium with the system preferences panel of 
> mac osx.
> And, some other strange things like:
> When you have a invitation to add a friend on facebook, adium is showing a 
> dialogue box where you have buttons like: accept, accept and add...
> This seems to bee buttons, voiceover said but, to let it work, you should do 
> a contextmenu on this elements to accept and add.
> 
> This things are for me the reason to change to ichat.
> 
> But, it makes no sence for me to use 2 app's : one for facebook and another 
> for msn.
> For this reason , I stay on adium.
> 
> best regards,
> William
> Op 14-apr-2010, om 01:13 heeft James & Nash het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi William, 
>> 
>> Im coming late to this thread, but is there a particular reason why you want 
>> to use IChat? If not, you could try Adium. It's a multi-chat client which 
>> includes MSN. That way, you don't need Jabber. Psi is completely 
>> inaccessible - or at least it was, and Jabber does some weird stuff with 
>> your contacts E-mail addresses.
>> 
>> HTH
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>> On 13 Apr 2010, at 23:33, William Windels wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was trying to configure my ichat program to work with msn
>>> 
>>> I found a tutorial and the explanation was quite simple.
>>> The only problem is that I have to install a jabber transport program.
>>> In the hoot, they give 2 suggestions for programs: 
>>> gajim or psi.
>>> Psi is available for mac but, i think totally inaccessible.
>>> And about gajim, I can't find a mac version , only different linux 
>>> distributions, bsd and windows.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone suggestions to configure msn in ichat?
>>> 
>>> Thanx in advance,
>>> best regards,
>>> William Windels
>>> 
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new member

[denise avant]

hello,
after having my iphone for six months now, i have really enjoyed my experience 
with apple. To that end, i am looking into purchasing a mac book pro. In fact, 
i called for some specs today and have set one with 4 gig of ram, and a 320 
hard drive, 13 in screen. again this is just a possiblity.
i will also have the word processor included. i will also have the one-to-one 
training as there is a nearby apple store in chicago.
i am curious as to what those of you who own macs have done about your other 
windows based adatpive equipment, duxbury, openbook or k1000 and hw stream 
companion? how easy is it to move ms word 2003 2007 docs over to apple macs, 
still keep the formatting or move them back again?
I thought of just keeping my netbook or sony  machine for these purposes. there 
was also the idea given to me that i could have windows on one side and the mac 
on the other side. any thoughts on these questions would be apprciated.
 

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Re: Battery status

[Sarah Alawami]

Oh cool. I did not know about the control f8 just the double press of vo m. 
I'll ave to try tht.

Take care.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Brett Campbell wrote:

> You can navigate to this area in two ways that I'm aware of.  You can either 
> use the VoiceOver command VO M, pressing the M twice while holding down the 
> control and option keys.  The other is a Mac command, control F8.  Use VO 
> plus arrow keys to find what you're looking for.  
> 
> Brett C.
> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Chad Rohr wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I got a Macbook a few weeks ago and things are going great. There is one 
>> thing I cant figure out, is there a way to check the battery status. I have 
>> had someone sighted tell me what it is, but I would rather not depend on 
>> them to find that out.
>> THanks
>>  
>> Chad
>> 
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Re: Just joined

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ricardo,

I have to deal with MS Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents in my work as a 
translator, but I find that iWork09 copes with all this adequately for my 
purposes. There are a few minor problems exporting Word documents to Pages, but 
I rarely encounter them.

In any case, my editors are grateful for good translations and don't mind 
moving around the occasional misplaced text box.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi,
> 
> It being a negative or a positive is completely dependent on the situation 
> one finds them self in.  People use applications at work or school for 
> example, just because they don't have a choice.  If my memory is correct, 
> someone said you should be adequate in MS office.  On face value this is 
> sound advice just because this is the standard used in many businesses and 
> learning institutions.  This has nothing or very little to do with what you 
> prefer or, what is faster or efficient.  It is just having a skill that many 
> people expect as a basic requirement in many walks of life.  Just my 2 cents. 
>  

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Re: Accessing Used Mac Mini

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Dan,

As long as you have an installation DVD, you can do a clean install on the Mac 
Mini without worrying about what was there before. You can even do it all by 
yourself! It talks you through the process.

Cheers,

Anne


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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am considering buying a used Mac Mini from an estate sale.  The
> previous owner might have left the Mini password-protected.  Is there a
> way to clear any passwords  and reinstall OSX?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: new member

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Denise,

I hope the word processor you are thinking of getting is iWork09, since MS 
Office for Mac is not accessible.

As for Word documents of almost any level, TextEdit or Pages will read these 
just fine.

I can't answer any of your other questions having never been a Windows user.

Cheers,

Anne

On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, denise avant wrote:

> hello,
> after having my iphone for six months now, i have really enjoyed my 
> experience with apple. To that end, i am looking into purchasing a mac book 
> pro. In fact, i called for some specs today and have set one with 4 gig of 
> ram, and a 320 hard drive, 13 in screen. again this is just a possiblity.
> i will also have the word processor included. i will also have the one-to-one 
> training as there is a nearby apple store in chicago.
> i am curious as to what those of you who own macs have done about your other 
> windows based adatpive equipment, duxbury, openbook or k1000 and hw stream 
> companion? how easy is it to move ms word 2003 2007 docs over to apple macs, 
> still keep the formatting or move them back again?
> I thought of just keeping my netbook or sony  machine for these purposes. 
> there was also the idea given to me that i could have windows on one side and 
> the mac on the other side. any thoughts on these questions would be 
> apprciated.
>  
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Curious

[Rob]

Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I  
should get both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the  
difference between that, and dual booting a Mac with both Snow  
Leopard, and Windows 7? I don't see any difference, and feel dual  
booting a Mac would be a more cost-effective solution. I plan to get a  
masters in A.T. So, what say ye, fellow Mac Visonaries?



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Re: Apple updates Macbook Pros with I5 and I7 chips

[Frank Tom]

Hi all,
My wife has to have the latest toys so we stopped by after work today and 
picked up her new 15 inch Mac Pro. After she's done playing I'll let you know 
how it works with VO.
Tom Frank
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On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Note that this is only on the 15 and 17 inch models. So if you don't care 
> about a big screen and go with the cheaper 13" model it's still a Core 2 Duo 
> for you.
> 
> CB
> 
> phil stephenson wrote:
>> Thanks for this, bit peeved as my wife and I  bought new MBBvP's in past few 
>> months!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 13 Apr 2010, at 02:02 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Checkout the apple site at
>>> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
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Re: Curious

[Sarah Alawami]

I think you should dool boo. you will nly have 1 machine to carry around.

Take care.
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> Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I should get 
> both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the difference between that, 
> and dual booting a Mac with both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7? I don't see any 
> difference, and feel dual booting a Mac would be a more cost-effective 
> solution. I plan to get a masters in A.T. So, what say ye, fellow Mac 
> Visonaries?
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Re: new member

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Can I say beautiful, new Macbook Pros 15-17 inch? I can. Speedy! I want to buy 
one. Why is it that no one buys Macbooks anymore, but always goes for the Pro? 
That has always confused me.

Well, actually, you can work fine with Word documents even in Text Edit, which 
is the default word processor on the Mac.

I really just dumped my Windows-based equipment, or sold it to those who wanted 
it. I found the Mac already had what I needed. I do, however, occasionally run 
Windows alongside but that's for no purpose but to game a little.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Denise,
> 
> I hope the word processor you are thinking of getting is iWork09, since MS 
> Office for Mac is not accessible.
> 
> As for Word documents of almost any level, TextEdit or Pages will read these 
> just fine.
> 
> I can't answer any of your other questions having never been a Windows user.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, denise avant wrote:
> 
>> hello,
>> after having my iphone for six months now, i have really enjoyed my 
>> experience with apple. To that end, i am looking into purchasing a mac book 
>> pro. In fact, i called for some specs today and have set one with 4 gig of 
>> ram, and a 320 hard drive, 13 in screen. again this is just a possiblity.
>> i will also have the word processor included. i will also have the 
>> one-to-one training as there is a nearby apple store in chicago.
>> i am curious as to what those of you who own macs have done about your other 
>> windows based adatpive equipment, duxbury, openbook or k1000 and hw stream 
>> companion? how easy is it to move ms word 2003 2007 docs over to apple macs, 
>> still keep the formatting or move them back again?
>> I thought of just keeping my netbook or sony  machine for these purposes. 
>> there was also the idea given to me that i could have windows on one side 
>> and the mac on the other side. any thoughts on these questions would be 
>> apprciated.
>> 
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Re: Apple updates Macbook Pros with I5 and I7 chips

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Oh my god. I'm going to get one too. Yes, I have to jump on the bandwagon since 
even the new people are getting Macbook Pros now. I didn't. Why did I have to 
be a cheapskate? Please, can you boot it in 64-bit and tell me how it works 
out? I've been curious about the difference to responsiveness.

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On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Frank Tom wrote:

> Hi all,
> My wife has to have the latest toys so we stopped by after work today and 
> picked up her new 15 inch Mac Pro. After she's done playing I'll let you know 
> how it works with VO.
> Tom Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Note that this is only on the 15 and 17 inch models. So if you don't care 
>> about a big screen and go with the cheaper 13" model it's still a Core 2 Duo 
>> for you.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> phil stephenson wrote:
>>> Thanks for this, bit peeved as my wife and I  bought new MBBvP's in past 
>>> few months!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2010, at 02:02 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
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Re: Apple Airport Express Base Station

[Slau Halatyn]

should work just fine. Set up, as I recall, was a breeze.

On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>  
> I have just acquired this WI-Fi for my home computer.  I will be using it for 
> my Macbook and a PC.  This is my first experience with the Wi-Fi so I thought 
> I'd ask if there is anything special I should be on the look out for as I get 
> it set up.  My ISP is Earthlink and I have DSL.
>  
> Thanks,
> Linda
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Re: Curious

[James & Nash]

The only thing with Dual booting is that you don't get the full experience. 2GB 
of RAM on a Mac is not - I repeat not the same as having 2GB of RAM on a 
Windows machine. The Mac and Windows utilise them differently.

TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
On 14 Apr 2010, at 23:19, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I think you should dool boo. you will nly have 1 machine to carry around.
> 
> Take care.
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Rob wrote:
> 
>> Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I should get 
>> both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the difference between that, 
>> and dual booting a Mac with both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7? I don't see 
>> any difference, and feel dual booting a Mac would be a more cost-effective 
>> solution. I plan to get a masters in A.T. So, what say ye, fellow Mac 
>> Visonaries?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
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I can't figure out how to select a word at a time

[Christina]

Hello all,

I know how to select a single character at a time using shift plus the arrow.  
However I cannot figure out how to select a word at a time.  This would save me 
some time if someone could help me out.  Also, I do know how to select a line 
at a time, just not a word at a time. 

How can I select text word by word?  I know how to use vo to read word by word, 
I just cannot figure out how to select text that way.

Thanks,
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Re: I can't figure out how to select a word at a time

[Dean Hudson]

Try using opt-shift-right arrow.  
On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Christina wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I know how to select a single character at a time using shift plus the arrow. 
>  However I cannot figure out how to select a word at a time.  This would save 
> me some time if someone could help me out.  Also, I do know how to select a 
> line at a time, just not a word at a time. 
> 
> How can I select text word by word?  I know how to use vo to read word by 
> word, I just cannot figure out how to select text that way.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
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sluggish safari

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
I thought I had my safari problem fixed but "not".
If anybody has ideas I'd appreciate them before I go to apple.  I've reported 
it but need to do more I guess.
Its been really sluggish when trying to load a web page, 15 or 20 seconds of 
busy busy when trying to load a web page.  I've even re-installed the os this 
morning thinking that there was some weird corruption there.  If anybody has 
ideas I'd appreciate it.  You can also contact me at any of the contact methods 
on the bottom of this email if you don't want to post here.
Thanks,
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A program question

[Courtney Curran]

Hi, all, I'm Courtney Curran and I'm new to the group. I have a question about 
a Ipod ripping program called Senuti. If any of you have heard of it, how 
accessible is it, and is it worth buying?
Thanks,
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FW: I can't figure out how to select a word at a time

[Linda Adams]

Hi,

I would also appreciate this information.  
I also need to know how to select a line at a time from a web page.

Thanks in advance
Linda


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Subject: I can't figure out how to select a word at a time


Hello all,

I know how to select a single character at a time using shift plus the
arrow.  However I cannot figure out how to select a word at a time.
This would save me some time if someone could help me out.  Also, I do
know how to select a line at a time, just not a word at a time. 

How can I select text word by word?  I know how to use vo to read word
by word, I just cannot figure out how to select text that way.

Thanks,
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Re: weird ITunes problem

[Shen]

Hi.
I think you are running into the same problem I am too. If the Options
key is held down when you launch iTunes, it will prompt you to choose
a library. This is a built-in feature of iTunes. If you try to launch
from the Dock, try just pressing enter with no other keys.


On 4/14/10, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> When I try to open itunes I am being asked to choose a library.  I've tried
> choosing a library, but when I exit ituens my settings aren't saved.  Also,
> After I choose a library, I'm not able to navigate around the songs table.
> Anyone know what might be going on?  I have not yet upgraded to the new
> version of itunes.  I did try repairing permissions, but that didn't help.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: weird ITunes problem

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, weird.  It does sound the same.  I created a shortcut in the Keypad 
Commander.  the strange thing is that this never happened before today.  thanks 
for the tip.
Best,
Donna
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Shen wrote:

> Hi.
> I think you are running into the same problem I am too. If the Options
> key is held down when you launch iTunes, it will prompt you to choose
> a library. This is a built-in feature of iTunes. If you try to launch
> from the Dock, try just pressing enter with no other keys.
> 
> 
> On 4/14/10, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> When I try to open itunes I am being asked to choose a library.  I've tried
>> choosing a library, but when I exit ituens my settings aren't saved.  Also,
>> After I choose a library, I'm not able to navigate around the songs table.
>> Anyone know what might be going on?  I have not yet upgraded to the new
>> version of itunes.  I did try repairing permissions, but that didn't help.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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itunes and option key

[Donna Goodin]

I just tried launching itunes with the keypad commander, but made sure to 
release the option key.  It launched without a problem.  Thanks so much for 
pointing out the option key thing.
Best,
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Re: FW: I can't figure out how to select a word at a time

[mani]

Linda:
For the word at a time, I think you will need to interact with the
item in question using VO+Shift+Down Arrow.  At some point of time ,
it starts interacting with a word at a time.  Then you move through
the words with a  VO + Right Arrow.  I am not sure how you would do a
line.
HTH,
mani

On Apr 14, 9:12 pm, "Linda Adams"  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would also appreciate this information.  
> I also need to know how to select a line at a time from a web page.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Linda
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I can't figure out how to select a word at a time
>
> Hello all,
>
> I know how to select a single character at a time using shift plus the
> arrow.  However I cannot figure out how to select a word at a time.
> This would save me some time if someone could help me out.  Also, I do
> know how to select a line at a time, just not a word at a time.
>
> How can I select text word by word?  I know how to use vo to read word
> by word, I just cannot figure out how to select text that way.
>
> Thanks,
> Christina
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Re: Curious

[Kaare Dehard]

duel boot and try it before thinking pc. If you have the addaptive tech for the 
pc, already and the duel boot works, you do save cash.
On 2010-04-14, at 5:59 PM, Rob wrote:

> Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I should get 
> both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the difference between that, 
> and dual booting a Mac with both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7? I don't see any 
> difference, and feel dual booting a Mac would be a more cost-effective 
> solution. I plan to get a masters in A.T. So, what say ye, fellow Mac 
> Visonaries?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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Re: Curious

[mani]

My humble opinion would be to boot windows out the door. :)
You will do perfectly fine with the Mac only.

mani

On Apr 14, 6:33 pm, "James & Nash" 
wrote:
> The only thing with Dual booting is that you don't get the full experience. 
> 2GB of RAM on a Mac is not - I repeat not the same as having 2GB of RAM on a 
> Windows machine. The Mac and Windows utilise them differently.
>
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
> On 14 Apr 2010, at 23:19, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think you should dool boo. you will nly have 1 machine to carry around.
>
> > Take care.
> > On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Rob wrote:
>
> >> Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I should 
> >> get both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the difference between 
> >> that, and dual booting a Mac with both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7? I 
> >> don't see any difference, and feel dual booting a Mac would be a more 
> >> cost-effective solution. I plan to get a masters in A.T. So, what say ye, 
> >> fellow Mac Visonaries?
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Re: Would appreciate your feedback on my new product launch for Mac

[gkearney]

We would be interested here at Association for the Blind of Western
Australia please contact me.

Gregory Kearney
Manager Accessible Media
Association for the Blind of Western Australia
61 Kitchener Ave
Victoria Park, WA 6100'
AUSTRALIA
+61 08 9311 8246

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> Please take our survey.  We want to know what you think of ABiSee
> (www.abisee.com) instant reading solutions for the Mac. As the leading
> worldwide developer and provider of easy to use electronic readers for
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Re: Selecting Text

[Teresa Cochran]

"Linda Adams"  Apr 14 09:12PM -0400 ^
 
Hi,
 
I would also appreciate this information. 
I also need to know how to select a line at a time from a web page.
 
Thanks in advance
Linda


Select by word: shift-option-left-and-right-arrows
Select to beginning or end of line: shift-command-left-and-right-arrows
Select to beginning or end of text area: shift-command up-and-down arrows.

HTH,
Teresa

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Re: sluggish safari

[olivia norman]

When this happened to me in October, it turned out that I needed a new logic 
board. I tried reinstalling my OS, deleting my preferences, clearing my 
history, and creating a test user account in order to insure that it wasn't an 
issue with my user settings.  Nothing worked, and apple figured out that it was 
my logic board.  They replaced it in a few days.  Hopefully, you don't have 
anything like this going on, but it might be something to keep in the back of 
your mind.
Olivia
On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:

> Hi all!
> I thought I had my safari problem fixed but "not".
> If anybody has ideas I'd appreciate them before I go to apple.  I've reported 
> it but need to do more I guess.
> Its been really sluggish when trying to load a web page, 15 or 20 seconds of 
> busy busy when trying to load a web page.  I've even re-installed the os this 
> morning thinking that there was some weird corruption there.  If anybody has 
> ideas I'd appreciate it.  You can also contact me at any of the contact 
> methods on the bottom of this email if you don't want to post here.
> Thanks,
> Jim
> 
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Re: I can't figure out how to select a word at a time

[olivia norman]

Shift, option, and the arrow keys.
HTH,
Olivia
On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Dean Hudson wrote:

>> how

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Re: Apple Airport Express Base Station

[olivia norman]

It works wonderfully, and set up is completely accessible.
Olivia
On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

> should work just fine. Set up, as I recall, was a breeze.
> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>  
>> I have just acquired this WI-Fi for my home computer.  I will be using it 
>> for my Macbook and a  PC.  This is my first experience with the Wi-Fi so I 
>> thought I'd ask if there is anything special I should be on the look out for 
>> as I get it set up.  My ISP is Earthlink and I have DSL.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Linda
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Re: itunes and option key

[Sarah Alawami]

I love the keyboard commander. it is way too cool and sometimes is faster then 
the doc.

Take care.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I just tried launching itunes with the keypad commander, but made sure to 
> release the option key.  It launched without a problem.  Thanks so much for 
> pointing out the option key thing.
> Best,
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Re: Curious

[Maurice Mines]

or you can also use a vm. Maurice ham call kd0iko, unco ta phone 
1-970-353-1044, nfbco newsline admen local numbers 1-970-373-30076.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I think you should dool boo. you will nly have 1 machine to carry around.
> 
> Take care.
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Rob wrote:
> 
>> Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I should get 
>> both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the difference between that, 
>> and dual booting a Mac with both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7? I don't see 
>> any difference, and feel dual booting a Mac would be a more cost-effective 
>> solution. I plan to get a masters in A.T. So, what say ye, fellow Mac 
>> Visonaries?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
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Re: Just joined

[olivia norman]

Just wanted to chime in and agree with all that's been said.  I have been a mac 
user since 2007, and am very excited that agencies and even some of the 
blindness organizations are beginning to realize all the wonderful technology 
apple has to offer everyone!
Olivia
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> Hello Rob,
> 
> I agree with you wholeheartedly. Agencies are actually beginning to realize 
> that Macs are, as you stated, assistive technology now. Providing training to 
> a visually impaired user is also much easier. Now, you don't have to 
> familiarize yourself with six or so screen readers, but only one, and not 
> more than one Zoom solution. This also makes it easier on developers testing 
> their applications for accessibility issues.
> 
> Regards,
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> On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Rob Lambert wrote:
> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I'm Rob. I just joined this list. I've been a Mac user for the past seven 
>> years, as a user of their magnifier software. I love how you can just walk 
>> up to a Mac, press a keystroke, and it zooms in or speaks. I've been telling 
>> people that, regarding our assistive technology, we're seeing a shift. I 
>> know many Mac users, and one who's about to come into possession of a Mac 
>> Mini. At CSUN I found out the ZoomTwix CCTV/OCR unit will have Mac 
>> compatibility, and also that RFB&D's #1 requirement for it's new software 
>> that's coming out, is to run on the Mac. So I'm curious about who's in 
>> agreement with me, do you feel we're seeing a shift in our industry, and 
>> that Windows alone will no longer cut it? I certainly do. 
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DAISY player for the Mac

[Rob Lambert]

I've tried Olearia, Emerson, and ReadHear. Of those three, ReadHear is the
only one to play my Bookshare books. I love Olearia for it's ease of use,
and I'd like to try to get that to work. When I open the book (and it's the
folder with the book title on it), it said that it can't play it. However,
when I play the user's guide for my Book Sense, it plays fine. Anyone got
any answers to this one? I'd like to avoid paying for something if I can.
Readhear is capable, but not only is it pricey at $250, but I don't like the
User interface, as much as I do olearia. Thanks.

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Re: Curious

[Rob Lambert]

I tried a VM - I had a full copy of Fusion that I would run the boot camp
partition from sometimes. It gave me issues with keyboard delays between
when I pressed a key, and when JAWS responded.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:

> or you can also use a vm. Maurice ham call kd0iko, unco ta phone
> 1-970-353-1044, nfbco newsline admen local numbers 1-970-373-30076.
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
> > I think you should dool boo. you will nly have 1 machine to carry around.
> >
> > Take care.
> > On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Rob wrote:
> >
> >> Okay. Someone said that, for the best A.T. training experience, I should
> get both a PC running Windows, AND a Mac. What is the difference between
> that, and dual booting a Mac with both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7? I don't
> see any difference, and feel dual booting a Mac would be a more
> cost-effective solution. I plan to get a masters in A.T. So, what say ye,
> fellow Mac Visonaries?
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPod
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What do you think?

[Rob Lambert]

I just got wind, from a friend of mine, that the only reason Apple is
accessible to us is because of a lawsuit by the NFB. The term of the
agreement was for accessibility improvements for three years. Here's a
question. First, what's your side of this ordeal? Second, who thinks Apple
will keep up with the accessibility improvements after this three year term
is up? I apologize for making smooth waters mirky, I just wanted to know
what your take on this was.

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