RE: using fdisk

2010-01-12 Thread Simon Fogarty
A workmate of mine has done it, she took a ubuntu live disk and  using I
think it was DD converted the disk into a bootable image then loaded that on
to the usb drive and we use it now for  antivirus scanning of laptop
machines 

 If I can get instructions off her, I'll pass them on.

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Hi Scott,

You wrote:
>   Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set the
boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB flash drive/Thumb
drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick that I can load a small Linux
distro on.

I haven't, but I will look into it for you if you like. In theory, there
should be no problem using fdisk as the Terminal is pretty accessible with
Voice Over.

TC
James 
On 11 Jan 2010, at 02:01, Scott Howell wrote:

> Folks,
> 
>   Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set the
boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB flash drive/Thumb
drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick that I can load a small Linux
distro on.
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RE: BootCamp

2010-01-12 Thread Simon Fogarty
 Is that fusion 3?

 I think we're using fusion 2 at work and I'm looking to up date things to a
windows 7 platform.

Cheers 

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Nope, but Win 7 works very well in the newest version of Fusion.
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Den Jan 11, 2010 kl. 4:42 PM skrev Blind Treasures:

> Has anyone heard any updates regarding the release of BootCamp 
> supporting Win 7?
> 
> Tony
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Re: BootCamp

2010-01-12 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,


Yes, it is.

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On Jan 12, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Is that fusion 3?
> 
> I think we're using fusion 2 at work and I'm looking to up date things to a
> windows 7 platform.
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Simon 
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> 
> Nope, but Win 7 works very well in the newest version of Fusion.
> Best regards
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>> Has anyone heard any updates regarding the release of BootCamp 
>> supporting Win 7?
>> 
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Re: Moving back in Safari

2010-01-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Barry,

Sometimes when I click on a link an instead of bringing me to the next page, a 
new window will open.  Keep this in mind next time you run into this problem.  
To cycle through windows press command accent, which is located directly above 
the tab key.

hth
On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> I had to comment on the issue you mentioned in regards to cmd-[ some times 
> working and some times not.  Most of the time it works fine for me.  However, 
> I've noticed the same thing on occasion and it has really had me perplexed.  
> There are times when I no that there is a prior window, but I can't get back 
> to it with the keystroke.  In those situations, I usually just go back to the 
> page in question through the window menu.  For some reason, I hadn't thought 
> of trying back space as some have mentioned, but I'll try it next time I run 
> in to it.
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
>> This seems like it should be such a simple question, but I've had terrible 
>> results with figuring it out on my own.
>> 
>> How do you, or can you, go back to the previous page while browsing with 
>> Safari?
>> 
>> In the global help, I saw a shortcut key, command-[, for going back in 
>> browsers. I've noticed that this works in some HTML browser views on the 
>> Mac, but not in others. It doesn't work at all for me in Safari.
>> 
>> I looked in the Safari help, but the sections on Shortcuts and Keyboard 
>> Shortcuts don't seem to list a key for this purpose.
>> 
>> Have I missed something?
>> 
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Re: App suggestion and audio help

2010-01-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

are both tracks set at the same BPMs?
On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:16 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

> Listers I have to take a instrumental track and add prerecorded voice audio 
> to it and I don't have the slightest idea as to where I need to start. Can 
> someone suggest a accessible Mac app that can do this and also a suggestion 
> on how to do it as well?
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found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread anouk radix
HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a client 
that will work with vo, and i did find something
http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to be done 
to turn it into a working client.
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,

Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.

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> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a client 
> that will work with vo, and i did find something
> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread Chris G
Hi,

It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.



On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:25 -0500
Lynn Schneider  wrote:

> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
> canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't remember 
> changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display name again?
> 
> Thanks so much for your assistance.


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Re: using fdisk

2010-01-12 Thread Scott Howell
Hi Simon,

Now that is an interesting idea, DD quite possibly could work.  I would 
be curious how she pulled this off.  Did she DD an iso perhaps?  THat would 
certainly answer some questions.

tnx,

On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> A workmate of mine has done it, she took a ubuntu live disk and  using I
> think it was DD converted the disk into a bootable image then loaded that on
> to the usb drive and we use it now for  antivirus scanning of laptop
> machines 
> 
> If I can get instructions off her, I'll pass them on.
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:24 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: using fdisk
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> You wrote:
>>  Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set the
> boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB flash drive/Thumb
> drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick that I can load a small Linux
> distro on.
> 
> I haven't, but I will look into it for you if you like. In theory, there
> should be no problem using fdisk as the Terminal is pretty accessible with
> Voice Over.
> 
> TC
> James 
> On 11 Jan 2010, at 02:01, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>>  Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set the
> boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB flash drive/Thumb
> drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick that I can load a small Linux
> distro on.
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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,

That's not my issue. My issue is mainly when I change it, it doesn't always 
update. This seems to be happening mainly for people using Windows Live 
services. It's a weird behavior.

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On Jan 12, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Chris G wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
> change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
> back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:25 -0500
> Lynn Schneider  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
>> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
>> canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't 
>> remember changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display name 
>> again?
>> 
>> Thanks so much for your assistance.
> 
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how do I download iplayer content

2010-01-12 Thread william lomas
	hi all, how can I download bbc IPlayer tv content on themac using  
safari, is there an application to get audio described programming?


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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread erik burggraaf
You can find this setting on the personal tab of adium preferences.  Make sure 
the second of the two radio buttons is checked, that will give you no icon I 
believe, then type your name as you want others to see it.

Best,

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On 2010-01-11, at 7:54 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote:

> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread erik burggraaf
I've had the same thing ever since I used adium over a year and a half ago.

Sometimes it updates  right away, some times it doesn't.

Hest,

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On 2010-01-12, at 6:16 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That's not my issue. My issue is mainly when I change it, it doesn't always 
> update. This seems to be happening mainly for people using Windows Live 
> services. It's a weird behavior.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Jan 12, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Chris G wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
>> change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
>> back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:25 -0500
>> Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
>>> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
>>> canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't 
>>> remember changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display name 
>>> again?
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for your assistance.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread May McDonald
I never have that problem. Mine stays the same for all of my messengers or 
facebooks and such that I use adium for.
On 2010-01-12, at 3:07 AM, Chris G wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
> change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
> back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:25 -0500
> Lynn Schneider  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
>> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
>> canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't 
>> remember changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display name 
>> again?
>> 
>> Thanks so much for your assistance.
> 
> 
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread sandi sørensen
Nick, if you want a stable, and little working client google for  
macirssi. it works, and you can trick it so you get speech on  
incomming messages. Pretty handy if you are on freenode and am on some  
of the bigger channels and am too lazy too read up;

)
sandi




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Hi,

Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.

Regards,
Nic
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On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:

HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding  
a client that will work with vo, and i did find something

http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would  
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Re: how do I download iplayer content

2010-01-12 Thread M AUSTEN
Hi William,
Below is the link where you can download the BBC i Player software for Mac.
iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/download_programmes/download_iplayer
When the software is installed all you have to do is go to 
bbc.co.uk/iplayer/audiodescribed
Here you can view a list all the current programs with audio description.
Mark

--- On Tue, 12/1/10, william lomas  wrote:

From: william lomas 
Subject: how do I download iplayer content
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 11:28

    hi all, how can I download bbc IPlayer tv content on themac using safari, 
is there an application to get audio described programming?

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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,

Adium can do the same, though. The settings seem to apply to all accounts, 
including IRC. I'll try it out, though. It might work even better. Thanks.

Regards,
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On Jan 5, 2001, at 1:24 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

> Nick, if you want a stable, and little working client google for macirssi. it 
> works, and you can trick it so you get speech on incomming messages. Pretty 
> handy if you are on freenode and am on some of the bigger channels and am too 
> lazy too read up;
> )
> sandi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
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>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>> 
>>> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a 
>>> client that will work with vo, and i did find something
>>> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
>>> This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to be 
>>> done to turn it into a working client.
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Re: how do I download iplayer content

2010-01-12 Thread william lomas
yes smiles, but how do i start them downloading or can I paste the  
direct ink to say eastenders into the program


On 12 Jan 2010, at 12:53, M AUSTEN wrote:


Hi William,

Below is the link where you can download the BBC i Player software  
for Mac.


iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/download_programmes/ 
download_iplayer


When the software is installed all you have to do is go to

bbc.co.uk/iplayer/audiodescribed

Here you can view a list all the current programs with audio  
description.


Mark

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From: william lomas 
Subject: how do I download iplayer content
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 11:28

hi all, how can I download bbc IPlayer tv content on themac  
using safari, is there an application to get audio described  
programming?


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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread Daniel Rowe
I have a similar problem, but rather than it showing my e-mail address, it 
displays my first name, which I believe it has gleaned from the registration 
info I entered when I originally set up my mac.

Dannie

On 12 Jan 2010, at 12:32, May McDonald wrote:

> I never have that problem. Mine stays the same for all of my messengers or 
> facebooks and such that I use adium for.
> On 2010-01-12, at 3:07 AM, Chris G wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
>> change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
>> back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:25 -0500
>> Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
>>> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
>>> canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't 
>>> remember changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display name 
>>> again?
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for your assistance.
>> 
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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,

If you don't change the setting for your icon for your Adium, it will also, by 
default, seemingly use your picture for the account on your Mac. I accidentally 
took a snapshot when I was setting up my Mac, and someone said that there was 
an ugly bugger on their MSN list. ;). Mine did it by default, anyway.

Regards,
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On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:

> I have a similar problem, but rather than it showing my e-mail address, it 
> displays my first name, which I believe it has gleaned from the registration 
> info I entered when I originally set up my mac.
> 
> Dannie
> 
> On 12 Jan 2010, at 12:32, May McDonald wrote:
> 
>> I never have that problem. Mine stays the same for all of my messengers or 
>> facebooks and such that I use adium for.
>> On 2010-01-12, at 3:07 AM, Chris G wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
>>> change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
>>> back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:25 -0500
>>> Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
 that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
 canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't 
 remember changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display 
 name again?
 
 Thanks so much for your assistance.
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RE: using fdisk

2010-01-12 Thread Bryan Smart
Scott, someone should probably get the details of how BootCamp knows that a 
partition has a bootable OS. Maybe it shows you all FAT32 or NTFS partitions as 
choices? Maybe it looks for a partition with a valid master boot record. If you 
can figure this out, then you'll just need to make this change to any Windows 
or Linux partition that you'd like, and have it be bootable.

On a PC, booting Windows from a flashdisk or external hard drive isn't easy. I 
bet it could work well with a Mac. Would be quite a demo.

Bryan

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: using fdisk

Hi Simon,

Now that is an interesting idea, DD quite possibly could work.  I would 
be curious how she pulled this off.  Did she DD an iso perhaps?  THat would 
certainly answer some questions.

tnx,

On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> A workmate of mine has done it, she took a ubuntu live disk and  using 
> I think it was DD converted the disk into a bootable image then loaded 
> that on to the usb drive and we use it now for  antivirus scanning of 
> laptop machines
> 
> If I can get instructions off her, I'll pass them on.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2010 12:24 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: using fdisk
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> You wrote:
>>  Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set the
> boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB flash 
> drive/Thumb drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick that I can 
> load a small Linux distro on.
> 
> I haven't, but I will look into it for you if you like. In theory, 
> there should be no problem using fdisk as the Terminal is pretty 
> accessible with Voice Over.
> 
> TC
> James
> On 11 Jan 2010, at 02:01, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>>  Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set the
> boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB flash 
> drive/Thumb drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick that I can 
> load a small Linux distro on.
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RE: Moving back in Safari

2010-01-12 Thread Bryan Smart
Here is a situation where command-[ and backspace won't work.

In the Finder, under the Help menu, open Mac Help. When you click on links 
here, you can't backup with a keyboard shortcut that I know, certainly not the 
ones that you'd expect from Safari. The only way I can back up is to back out 
one level with the VO cursor, arrow back to the toolbar, enter the toolbar, 
click the back button, exit the toolbar, arrow over to the HTML view, and enter 
it again. So many keys for a simple function like going back a page.

Bryan 

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Subject: Re: Moving back in Safari

Hi Barry,

Sometimes when I click on a link an instead of bringing me to the next page, a 
new window will open.  Keep this in mind next time you run into this problem.  
To cycle through windows press command accent, which is located directly above 
the tab key.

hth
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> I had to comment on the issue you mentioned in regards to cmd-[ some times 
> working and some times not.  Most of the time it works fine for me.  However, 
> I've noticed the same thing on occasion and it has really had me perplexed.  
> There are times when I no that there is a prior window, but I can't get back 
> to it with the keystroke.  In those situations, I usually just go back to the 
> page in question through the window menu.  For some reason, I hadn't thought 
> of trying back space as some have mentioned, but I'll try it next time I run 
> in to it.
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
>> This seems like it should be such a simple question, but I've had terrible 
>> results with figuring it out on my own.
>> 
>> How do you, or can you, go back to the previous page while browsing with 
>> Safari?
>> 
>> In the global help, I saw a shortcut key, command-[, for going back in 
>> browsers. I've noticed that this works in some HTML browser views on the 
>> Mac, but not in others. It doesn't work at all for me in Safari.
>> 
>> I looked in the Safari help, but the sections on Shortcuts and Keyboard 
>> Shortcuts don't seem to list a key for this purpose.
>> 
>> Have I missed something?
>> 
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Re: Moving back in Safari

2010-01-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Bryan,

I just went to Mac help and clicked on Network, share, and go online, and I 
press backspace and it went back to the previous page.  I also clicked on, 
Learn the basics about your Mac, and backspace worked as advertised. 
On Jan 12, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

> Here is a situation where command-[ and backspace won't work.
> 
> In the Finder, under the Help menu, open Mac Help. When you click on links 
> here, you can't backup with a keyboard shortcut that I know, certainly not 
> the ones that you'd expect from Safari. The only way I can back up is to back 
> out one level with the VO cursor, arrow back to the toolbar, enter the 
> toolbar, click the back button, exit the toolbar, arrow over to the HTML 
> view, and enter it again. So many keys for a simple function like going back 
> a page.
> 
> Bryan 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Moving back in Safari
> 
> Hi Barry,
> 
> Sometimes when I click on a link an instead of bringing me to the next page, 
> a new window will open.  Keep this in mind next time you run into this 
> problem.  To cycle through windows press command accent, which is located 
> directly above the tab key.
> 
> hth
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
> 
>> I had to comment on the issue you mentioned in regards to cmd-[ some times 
>> working and some times not.  Most of the time it works fine for me.  
>> However, I've noticed the same thing on occasion and it has really had me 
>> perplexed.  There are times when I no that there is a prior window, but I 
>> can't get back to it with the keystroke.  In those situations, I usually 
>> just go back to the page in question through the window menu.  For some 
>> reason, I hadn't thought of trying back space as some have mentioned, but 
>> I'll try it next time I run in to it.
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> This seems like it should be such a simple question, but I've had terrible 
>>> results with figuring it out on my own.
>>> 
>>> How do you, or can you, go back to the previous page while browsing with 
>>> Safari?
>>> 
>>> In the global help, I saw a shortcut key, command-[, for going back in 
>>> browsers. I've noticed that this works in some HTML browser views on the 
>>> Mac, but not in others. It doesn't work at all for me in Safari.
>>> 
>>> I looked in the Safari help, but the sections on Shortcuts and Keyboard 
>>> Shortcuts don't seem to list a key for this purpose.
>>> 
>>> Have I missed something?
>>> 
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread anouk radix
Hello, interesting i also found x-chat that works fairly well.
I only dont see the chat messages on my screen with my braille display although 
they are pronounced with growl.

On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Adium can do the same, though. The settings seem to apply to all accounts, 
> including IRC. I'll try it out, though. It might work even better. Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
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> 
> On Jan 5, 2001, at 1:24 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
> 
>> Nick, if you want a stable, and little working client google for macirssi. 
>> it works, and you can trick it so you get speech on incomming messages. 
>> Pretty handy if you are on freenode and am on some of the bigger channels 
>> and am too lazy too read up;
>> )
>> sandi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> Skype: Kvalme
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>>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>>> 
 HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a 
 client that will work with vo, and i did find something
 http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
 This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to be 
 done to turn it into a working client.
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Pete Nalda
Hi all,
Well, since my initial post about loosing accessibility with x-chat Aqua, I did 
find that by interacting with the Text window, that voiceover would then 
proceed to read all the channel text, but it does not read text as it comes in, 
it just reads whatever fills the screen at that moment.  Also, VO does speak 
text typed into the input box, VO will not speak the userlist, no matter how 
you interact with it.  Also Zoom is still not tracking input typing.

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> Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
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>> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a client 
>> that will work with vo, and i did find something
>> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
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Program for opening .uif files?

2010-01-12 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
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Re: App suggestion and audio help

2010-01-12 Thread VaShaun Jones
I have no clue as to what that is.
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> Hi,
> 
> are both tracks set at the same BPMs?
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:16 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
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Firefox 3.6 RC1 not VO compatible

2010-01-12 Thread Chris Blouch
Save  yourself some time in case you were hoping for more in the new 
release. All I could access was the window title and close/min/max 
buttons in the chrome.


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adium and irc

2010-01-12 Thread anouk radix
HEllo, i just checked adium but cant find the function to add an irc server, 
lots of other account types but no irc.
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Re: Firefox 3.6 RC1 not VO compatible

2010-01-12 Thread william lomas

they taking a rediculous amount of time now it is a joke

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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Pete Nalda
PS: I've also mailed the developer of X-Chat Aqua to let him know that VO and 
Zoom weren't working on the client.  I'll keep the list posted.

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>> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a client 
>> that will work with vo, and i did find something
>> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
>> This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to be 
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Re: App suggestion and audio help

2010-01-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Oh.

Sorry it stands for Beats per minute.  You can contact me off list at 
rwalker...@gmail.com  I think I can help you out here.
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> I have no clue as to what that is.
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:47 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> are both tracks set at the same BPMs?
>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:16 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Listers I have to take a instrumental track and add prerecorded voice audio 
>>> to it and I don't have the slightest idea as to where I need to start. Can 
>>> someone suggest a accessible Mac app that can do this and also a suggestion 
>>> on how to do it as well?
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Re: Program for opening .uif files?

2010-01-12 Thread Esther

Hi Krister,

Google turned up with this uif2iso4mac app for opening up .uif files  
on a Mac:

http://vafer.org/projects/uif2iso4mac/

Let us know if it works for you. HTH

Cheers,

Esther

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Hi,
Is there an archiver/packer/unpacker for mac that can handle the  
file format .uif? I did a google search but couldn't find anything  
useful so if anyone knows of such a beast, could you please let me  
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Re: Program for opening .uif files?

2010-01-12 Thread Barry Hadder
You can use uif2iso.  You can get it through macports.  It is command line, but 
I think that there is a gui front end for it somewhere.


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Re: Using Automator with VoiceOver

2010-01-12 Thread Esther

Hi Bryan,

Yes, that's an old post that describes Automator under Leopard and the  
excerpts are from directions I gave nearly 8 months ago.  I wouldn't  
have said that I've spent much time with Automator -- I mostly seem to  
play with it when someone asks a question.  I'm still running Leopard  
on this MacBook for reasons of having to support an older software  
configuration, so I can't test the latest Automator.  Hopefully, I'll  
get a chance to do the Snow Leopard upgrade in a couple of weeks.


Cheers,

Esther

Bryan Smart wrote:


Hi. Thanks for that.

I have noticed some differences in my experiences when compared to  
what you wrote in that post. Probably, Automator has changed in  
recent versions.


Regarding how to reorder actions in the workflow, you said that  
you'd select the action and use command-up and command-down. For me,  
simply placing the VoiceOver focus on an item doesn't seem to focus  
it for the reorder commands. I have cursor tracking turned on. I've  
tried VO-space, to activate the item, and VO-enter to select the  
item, but this still doesn't seem to force the current action to be  
the target of a reorder command. I tried moving the mouse cursor to  
the VO cursor and clicking, but the VO cursor doesn't seem to be  
moved in to the workflow. I always end up activating the wrong  
object, such as opening the Apple menu.


The only way that I've found to reorder on my system is to change  
the focus in the workflow with the arrows, and then use the re-order  
commands. This is difficult, because there isn't any feedback when  
you use the arrows regarding what action has focus. So I move the  
focus, try to reorder, and, if I moved the wrong item, I press un- 
do, move the focus, and try again. Hopefully there is a better way.


Your post talked about adding variables that are already defined,  
such as the current date and time. I was concerned about how to add  
my own custom variables. For example, if you put up an input box to  
ask a question, the next action in the workflow must set a variable  
with the result of the dialog before you should present another  
input dialog. This isn't exactly what I'm attempting, but the  
concept is the same.


However, I decided to try using predefined variables, since that was  
apparently working for you. I added a predefined variable, but had  
the same problem that I had with custom variables.


1. In the top level variables table, none of the variable names  
read. Each row of the table says "object replacement character". I  
can use your technique of moving mouse to VO cursor and double  
clicking to open the variable's attributes window to view its name  
or set its format. Similarly, I can move to my own custom variables  
and open their attributes windows to view their name. This is slow  
going, since I must open each variable's attributes window to even  
know what variable is focused, but at least I can work around this  
problem.


2. What has me stuck, though, is when I want to use a variable of  
any type in an action. In actions that accept variables, there is a  
pop-up menu where I either select to use an existing variable, or to  
create a new variable. The only thing that VoiceOver will read in  
this pop-up menu, though is the New Variable entry. I can arrow to  
the other entries, but they are silent. Even after I pick one of the  
silent entries, and return to the action, the pop-up button now has  
a blank label.


I'm on OS 10.6.2. Automator is version 2.1 (246). I'm fully updated.  
Are we using the same version? Are you experiencing these problems?


Thanks for your assistance.

Bryan

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Automator with VoiceOver

Hi Bryan,

You might want to read through my archived list post about using  
variable in VoiceOver here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg08577.html
(Re: Another List? was: Re: apple script and vo)

This contained excerpted posts from earlier correspondence off of  
this list about Automator (under Leopard) using variables. Actually,  
even at that time you didn't have to double-click to select actions  
-- carriage return would add the action to the workflow.  Quite a  
lot of the way that navigation was outlined there reflects  
historical behavior -- for instance, on applications where VoiceOver  
accessibility is in a transitional state, I almost always have my  
mouse cursor track my VoiceOver cursor so I can click on and  
activate selections that I can't otherwise use. So there may also  
now be simpler ways to navigate, although what is outlined will work.


HTH

Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 9, 2010, at 08:46, Bryan Smart wrote:


Has anyone here spent much time with Automator?

Most of the program works well, but there is a very big hol

Re: Firefox 3.6 RC1 not VO compatible

2010-01-12 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,

I wasn't holding my breath for the next release. It's gonna take some time to 
be implemented, I'm sure.

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> Save  yourself some time in case you were hoping for more in the new release. 
> All I could access was the window title and close/min/max buttons in the 
> chrome.
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Re: Firefox 3.6 RC1 not VO compatible

2010-01-12 Thread David Hole

Hello guys.
I don't think we can expect anything before Firefox 4 :(

Den 12.01.2010 18:12, skrev Nicolai Svendsen:

Hi,

I wasn't holding my breath for the next release. It's gonna take some time to 
be implemented, I'm sure.

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Save  yourself some time in case you were hoping for more in the new release. 
All I could access was the window title and close/min/max buttons in the chrome.

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Re: Firefox 3.6 RC1 not VO compatible

2010-01-12 Thread Chris Hofstader
Has any Firefox worked on Mac without FireVox installed?
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Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread David Hole

Hello folks.
I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the 
GMail-trash, but in a folder called "Deleted messages" or something like 
that.
How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't 
apple allow that at all?

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Re: Program for opening .uif files?

2010-01-12 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I downloaded the program you suggested, and it seems to work like a charm. 
Thanks so much, Esther.
/Krister

12 jan 2010 kl. 17.54 skrev Esther:

> Hi Krister,
> 
> Google turned up with this uif2iso4mac app for opening up .uif files on a Mac:
> http://vafer.org/projects/uif2iso4mac/
> 
> Let us know if it works for you. HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread sandi sørensen
interesting , i use xchat on the 2 mini's and irssi on the air. Where  
of course it works , henze why i use it ;)






On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:


Hi all,
Well, since my initial post about loosing accessibility with x-chat  
Aqua, I did find that by interacting with the Text window, that  
voiceover would then proceed to read all the channel text, but it  
does not read text as it comes in, it just reads whatever fills the  
screen at that moment.  Also, VO does speak text typed into the  
input box, VO will not speak the userlist, no matter how you  
interact with it.  Also Zoom is still not tracking input typing.


On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:


Hi,

Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to  
that.


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On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:

HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of  
finding a client that will work with vo, and i did find something

http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would  
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Re: Program for opening .uif files?

2010-01-12 Thread James & Nash
Hi Krister,

> You wrote:
> Is there an archiver/packer/unpacker for mac that can handle the file format 
> .uif? I did a google search but couldn't find anything useful so if anyone 
> knows of such a beast, could you please let me know.

Have you tried The Unarchiver from: http://www.opensourcemac.org

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> knows of such a beast, could you please let me know.
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Pete Nalda
Well today, I got it to read the userlist finally, but I was mousing over that 
window, When I'd try and navigate to it and then interact with it VO did 
nothing.  Zoom still won't track as I type in the input window and that's the 
thing that really bugs me most as I rely on zoom as much as I do VO.  Like I 
said, i've written the developer, and when going to the website, recognized his 
Nick, which he uses on the dev site, and so maybe will get to ask in person on 
#macintosh on dalnet.

On Jan 5, 2001, at 12:41 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

> interesting , i use xchat on the 2 mini's and irssi on the air. Where of 
> course it works , henze why i use it ;)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Well, since my initial post about loosing accessibility with x-chat Aqua, I 
>> did find that by interacting with the Text window, that voiceover would then 
>> proceed to read all the channel text, but it does not read text as it comes 
>> in, it just reads whatever fills the screen at that moment.  Also, VO does 
>> speak text typed into the input box, VO will not speak the userlist, no 
>> matter how you interact with it.  Also Zoom is still not tracking input 
>> typing.
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>> AIM: cincinster
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>>> Facebook Profile
>>> My Twitter
>>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>>> 
 HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a 
 client that will work with vo, and i did find something
 http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
 This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to be 
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread James & Nash
Hi David,

> I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
> My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the GMail-trash, 
> but in a folder called "Deleted messages" or something like that.
> How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
> allow that at all?
> Kind regards David

It depends I think on what setup you are using for your Mac and GMail. If you 
are using POP3, then all your messages should end up in Mail's Trash folder. If 
you are using IMAP, they will still end up in the Trash folder, but your 
actions on your Mac should be mirrored on the website and in all your accounts 
assuming that you are using other computers too.

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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread anouk radix
Hello x-chat works fairly well and you can set it to work with growl (so speak 
stuff that might not be spoken buy vo).
Greetings, Anouk,
On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Well today, I got it to read the userlist finally, but I was mousing over 
> that window, When I'd try and navigate to it and then interact with it VO did 
> nothing.  Zoom still won't track as I type in the input window and that's the 
> thing that really bugs me most as I rely on zoom as much as I do VO.  Like I 
> said, i've written the developer, and when going to the website, recognized 
> his Nick, which he uses on the dev site, and so maybe will get to ask in 
> person on #macintosh on dalnet.
> 
> On Jan 5, 2001, at 12:41 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
> 
>> interesting , i use xchat on the 2 mini's and irssi on the air. Where of 
>> course it works , henze why i use it ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Well, since my initial post about loosing accessibility with x-chat Aqua, I 
>>> did find that by interacting with the Text window, that voiceover would 
>>> then proceed to read all the channel text, but it does not read text as it 
>>> comes in, it just reads whatever fills the screen at that moment.  Also, VO 
>>> does speak text typed into the input box, VO will not speak the userlist, 
>>> no matter how you interact with it.  Also Zoom is still not tracking input 
>>> typing.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 AIM: cincinster
 yahoo Messenger: cin368
 Facebook Profile
 My Twitter
 
 On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:
 
> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a 
> client that will work with vo, and i did find something
> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
> This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to 
> be done to turn it into a working client.
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Pete Nalda
ok will go out and get growl.  The Zoom not tracking still bugs me though.

On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:26 PM, anouk radix wrote:

> Hello x-chat works fairly well and you can set it to work with growl (so 
> speak stuff that might not be spoken buy vo).
> Greetings, Anouk,
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Well today, I got it to read the userlist finally, but I was mousing over 
>> that window, When I'd try and navigate to it and then interact with it VO 
>> did nothing.  Zoom still won't track as I type in the input window and 
>> that's the thing that really bugs me most as I rely on zoom as much as I do 
>> VO.  Like I said, i've written the developer, and when going to the website, 
>> recognized his Nick, which he uses on the dev site, and so maybe will get to 
>> ask in person on #macintosh on dalnet.
>> 
>> On Jan 5, 2001, at 12:41 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>> 
>>> interesting , i use xchat on the 2 mini's and irssi on the air. Where of 
>>> course it works , henze why i use it ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 Well, since my initial post about loosing accessibility with x-chat Aqua, 
 I did find that by interacting with the Text window, that voiceover would 
 then proceed to read all the channel text, but it does not read text as it 
 comes in, it just reads whatever fills the screen at that moment.  Also, 
 VO does speak text typed into the input box, VO will not speak the 
 userlist, no matter how you interact with it.  Also Zoom is still not 
 tracking input typing.
 
 On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
> My Twitter
> 
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:
> 
>> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a 
>> client that will work with vo, and i did find something
>> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
>> This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to 
>> be done to turn it into a working client.
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Re: found something: irc client on the mac

2010-01-12 Thread Pete Nalda
Ok I've got one more question.  Got growl installed and and saw what it did 
when notifications were being showed, but couldn't get VO to speak them.  So 
how do I tie Growl into voiceover or have Growl speak notifications?  TIA.

On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:26 PM, anouk radix wrote:

> Hello x-chat works fairly well and you can set it to work with growl (so 
> speak stuff that might not be spoken buy vo).
> Greetings, Anouk,
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Well today, I got it to read the userlist finally, but I was mousing over 
>> that window, When I'd try and navigate to it and then interact with it VO 
>> did nothing.  Zoom still won't track as I type in the input window and 
>> that's the thing that really bugs me most as I rely on zoom as much as I do 
>> VO.  Like I said, i've written the developer, and when going to the website, 
>> recognized his Nick, which he uses on the dev site, and so maybe will get to 
>> ask in person on #macintosh on dalnet.
>> 
>> On Jan 5, 2001, at 12:41 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>> 
>>> interesting , i use xchat on the 2 mini's and irssi on the air. Where of 
>>> course it works , henze why i use it ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 Well, since my initial post about loosing accessibility with x-chat Aqua, 
 I did find that by interacting with the Text window, that voiceover would 
 then proceed to read all the channel text, but it does not read text as it 
 comes in, it just reads whatever fills the screen at that moment.  Also, 
 VO does speak text typed into the input box, VO will not speak the 
 userlist, no matter how you interact with it.  Also Zoom is still not 
 tracking input typing.
 
 On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Too much work. Adium seems to support IRC, so I'll just stick to that.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
> My Twitter
> 
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:16 AM, anouk radix wrote:
> 
>> HEllo, i just did a search for irc and cocoa in the hops of finding a 
>> client that will work with vo, and i did find something
>> http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/cocoa/doc/html/index.html
>> This is a framework though so I am not sure how much work would have to 
>> be done to turn it into a working client.
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread David Hole

Hi James.
Maybe I was a bit unclear in my previous mail.
I am using IMAP on the Mac.
The problem is that Mail.app on the Mac creates a new folder to move 
deleted mail to instead of using the "original" one that Gmail uses.

Isn't there any place to setup this - like there is in Thunderbird?
-David

Den 12.01.2010 20:23, skrev James & Nash:

Hi David,


I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the GMail-trash, but in a 
folder called "Deleted messages" or something like that.
How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
allow that at all?
Kind regards David


It depends I think on what setup you are using for your Mac and GMail. If you 
are using POP3, then all your messages should end up in Mail's Trash folder. If 
you are using IMAP, they will still end up in the Trash folder, but your 
actions on your Mac should be mirrored on the website and in all your accounts 
assuming that you are using other computers too.

TC
James
On 12 Jan 2010, at 17:48, David Hole wrote:


Hello folks.
I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the GMail-trash, but in a 
folder called "Deleted messages" or something like that.
How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
allow that at all?
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread John André Netland
Hi David,

You might check out the seting under Mail Preferences/Account/Mail behaviors 
for how to handle deleted messages. Also, you might experience that if your 
services are a mix of english and norwegian, for example norwegian system on 
your Mac and an imap service with an english interface, you might get trash 
folders in different languages. They should still work as expected, but have 
different names when you dig into the folders.

Take care,
John André


On 12. jan. 2010, at 21.16, David Hole wrote:

> Hi James.
> Maybe I was a bit unclear in my previous mail.
> I am using IMAP on the Mac.
> The problem is that Mail.app on the Mac creates a new folder to move deleted 
> mail to instead of using the "original" one that Gmail uses.
> Isn't there any place to setup this - like there is in Thunderbird?
> -David
> 
> Den 12.01.2010 20:23, skrev James & Nash:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>>> I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
>>> My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the 
>>> GMail-trash, but in a folder called "Deleted messages" or something like 
>>> that.
>>> How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
>>> allow that at all?
>>> Kind regards David
>> 
>> It depends I think on what setup you are using for your Mac and GMail. If 
>> you are using POP3, then all your messages should end up in Mail's Trash 
>> folder. If you are using IMAP, they will still end up in the Trash folder, 
>> but your actions on your Mac should be mirrored on the website and in all 
>> your accounts assuming that you are using other computers too.
>> 
>> TC
>> James
>> On 12 Jan 2010, at 17:48, David Hole wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello folks.
>>> I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
>>> My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the 
>>> GMail-trash, but in a folder called "Deleted messages" or something like 
>>> that.
>>> How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
>>> allow that at all?
>>> Kind regards David
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page up and down in pages, and openoffice for mac?

2010-01-12 Thread Maurice Mines
hi how due I use the the page up, or the page down comand on my mac in both 
open office or pages? enay help wood be grate i know this a dom questionbut i 
am working on reading a vary long docunent.think maurice call kd0iko.
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread Daniel Rowe
Hi David.

Another thing to try is, with your gmail account's trash folder selected, go to 
the mailbox menu, go down to "use this mailbox for" and in that submenu hit 
return on trash.
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread James & Nash
Hi David, 

You need to change something in Labels on the GMail website. Unfortunately, I 
cannot remember what it is. However all the instructions you need should be in 
the help section of the site.
TC
James 
On 12 Jan 2010, at 20:16, David Hole wrote:

> Hi James.
> Maybe I was a bit unclear in my previous mail.
> I am using IMAP on the Mac.
> The problem is that Mail.app on the Mac creates a new folder to move deleted 
> mail to instead of using the "original" one that Gmail uses.
> Isn't there any place to setup this - like there is in Thunderbird?
> -David
> 
> Den 12.01.2010 20:23, skrev James & Nash:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>>> I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
>>> My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the 
>>> GMail-trash, but in a folder called "Deleted messages" or something like 
>>> that.
>>> How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
>>> allow that at all?
>>> Kind regards David
>> 
>> It depends I think on what setup you are using for your Mac and GMail. If 
>> you are using POP3, then all your messages should end up in Mail's Trash 
>> folder. If you are using IMAP, they will still end up in the Trash folder, 
>> but your actions on your Mac should be mirrored on the website and in all 
>> your accounts assuming that you are using other computers too.
>> 
>> TC
>> James
>> On 12 Jan 2010, at 17:48, David Hole wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello folks.
>>> I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
>>> My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the 
>>> GMail-trash, but in a folder called "Deleted messages" or something like 
>>> that.
>>> How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
>>> allow that at all?
>>> Kind regards David
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread David Hole

Hi guys.
I tried both of this, but under the Mail behavior, one can't set wich 
folder to use for trash purpose.

In the mailbox menu, there is no option called "use this mailbox for" :(
Both of you are using the latest Snow Leopard 10.6.2?

Den 12.01.2010 22:42, skrev Daniel Rowe:

Hi David.

Another thing to try is, with your gmail account's trash folder selected, go to the 
mailbox menu, go down to "use this mailbox for" and in that submenu hit return 
on trash.
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Re: Deleting mail in Mail.app

2010-01-12 Thread David Hole

Hi James.
I checked this one: 
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78892#

But the only thing it says, is to uncheck all.
I did so, but then when I delete a mail, from (let's say) the 
Macvisionaries folder/label, it only removes the label, and the mail is 
still on the server - in the "all mail"-folder.
The "all mail"-folder is full of stuff, so when I found the mail there, 
and deleted it, I don't know if it's all gone or if it is still on the 
server somewhere...:(

Den 12.01.2010 23:07, skrev James & Nash:

Hi David,

You need to change something in Labels on the GMail website. Unfortunately, I 
cannot remember what it is. However all the instructions you need should be in 
the help section of the site.
TC
James
On 12 Jan 2010, at 20:16, David Hole wrote:


Hi James.
Maybe I was a bit unclear in my previous mail.
I am using IMAP on the Mac.
The problem is that Mail.app on the Mac creates a new folder to move deleted mail to 
instead of using the "original" one that Gmail uses.
Isn't there any place to setup this - like there is in Thunderbird?
-David

Den 12.01.2010 20:23, skrev James&  Nash:

Hi David,


I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the GMail-trash, but in a 
folder called "Deleted messages" or something like that.
How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
allow that at all?
Kind regards David


It depends I think on what setup you are using for your Mac and GMail. If you 
are using POP3, then all your messages should end up in Mail's Trash folder. If 
you are using IMAP, they will still end up in the Trash folder, but your 
actions on your Mac should be mirrored on the website and in all your accounts 
assuming that you are using other computers too.

TC
James
On 12 Jan 2010, at 17:48, David Hole wrote:


Hello folks.
I've set up my Mail.app to use Gmail.
My problem is that when I delete mail, they don't end up in the GMail-trash, but in a 
folder called "Deleted messages" or something like that.
How and where can I change this so it works the right way? Or doesn't apple 
allow that at all?
Kind regards David
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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-12 Thread Portia Scott
Hi,

I think it's great that Mozilla is branching out and asking the community. I 
know that if I had the talent, I would love to help.
On Jan 11, 2010, at 3:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> However, the Mozilla folks are looking for additional help in making it 
> accessible on the Mac. If you have such talents you'd like to share, they 
> would appreciate the help.
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Firefox is inaccessible on the mac.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> Portia.
>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> Doesn't work. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anouk radix
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:49 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: firefox on a mac?
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, i just dled firefox 3.5 because i wanted to try it with snow 
>>> leopard but if i open it i cant do anything at all, it just says firefox 
>>> has no windows and i can topen a menu or do anything. Does firefox not work 
>>> with sl or is it just totally not acccessible (i saw the release i 
>>> downloaded was written for mac 10.5).
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Re: Firefox 3.6 RC1 not VO compatible

2010-01-12 Thread Jake
Nope, and I'm not personally convinced that Mozilla really cares.
There was a blog post a while back from Mozilla essentially saying it
was Apple's responsibility. Since then there've been a few vague sort
of promises that we'll get Mac accessibility to Firefox but nothing
actually has been done to make it happen. I stopped holding my breath
a long time ago when it comes to Firefox, and I don't personally find
Firevox to be as reliable a solution as properly implemented
accessibility support would be. It suffices for browsing simple pages,
but not much else and provides no access to the rest of the Firefox
interface.
Mozilla needs to get accessibility support into XUL and Gecko both.
It's not a quick job, but I would've thought we'd have seen at least a
little bit of something by now if they intended to do it in the near
future.



On Jan 12, 10:17 am, Chris Hofstader  wrote:
> Has any Firefox worked on Mac without FireVox installed?
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>
>
> > Save  yourself some time in case you were hoping for more in the new 
> > release. All I could access was the window title and close/min/max buttons 
> > in the chrome.
>
> > CB
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Automater: Feeling Really Dumb

2010-01-12 Thread Buddy Brannan
So I want to get started with Automater, except I have a problem. I can't 
figure out how to stick an action in the work flow. And I can't find a stupid 
people's set of instructions. Someone wanna hit me with the clue stick?
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How do I know which albums on iTunes are DRM-protected?

2010-01-12 Thread Victor Tsaran

Hello all,
How do I know whether an music album I want to buy on iTunes is 
DRM-protected or not? Oftentimes, I simply skip out to Amazon for fear 
of unknown. 


Thanks,
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Re: How do I know which albums on iTunes are DRM-protected?

2010-01-12 Thread David Hole

Good morning Vic.
Apple doesn't use DRM on music anymore.
They ended using it a year ago or so.
From that time, they also began using 256kbs quality instead of 128kbs 
wich have been used before.
THe m4a-files you buy now is compatible with all devices I have in my 
hous :)

-David

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Hello all,
How do I know whether an music album I want to buy on iTunes is
DRM-protected or not? Oftentimes, I simply skip out to Amazon for fear
of unknown. 

Thanks,
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Re: Adium and display name for Windows Live Messenger

2010-01-12 Thread Lynn Schneider
LOL, oh Lord, that's quite a scary thought!  Thank goodness most of my contacts 
are total blinks.  
On Jan 12, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If you don't change the setting for your icon for your Adium, it will also, 
> by default, seemingly use your picture for the account on your Mac. I 
> accidentally took a snapshot when I was setting up my Mac, and someone said 
> that there was an ugly bugger on their MSN list. ;). Mine did it by default, 
> anyway.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
> My Twitter
> 
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:
> 
>> I have a similar problem, but rather than it showing my e-mail address, it 
>> displays my first name, which I believe it has gleaned from the registration 
>> info I entered when I originally set up my mac.
>> 
>> Dannie
>> 
>> On 12 Jan 2010, at 12:32, May McDonald wrote:
>> 
>>> I never have that problem. Mine stays the same for all of my messengers or 
>>> facebooks and such that I use adium for.
>>> On 2010-01-12, at 3:07 AM, Chris G wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 It seems like this is an issue for users of multi im clients.  When you
 change your name you'll need to change it again the next time you sign
 back in.  Might be easier for your contact to rename you on their end.
 
 
 
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> Hi everyone.  One of my MSN Messenger contacts pointed out to me recently 
> that my display name is now no longer Lynn, but is showing as 
> canepri...@hotmail.com, which is my MSN Messenger username.  I don't 
> remember changing that, but how do I get it back to my correct display 
> name again?
> 
> Thanks so much for your assistance.
 
 
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