Re: linux support companies in Israel
Gabor Szabo wrote: [clip] Where are the companies that provide support for Linux in Israel ? Why does anyone expect on this list that any company will reasonably evaluate Linux if it cannot find several vendors that could support it. I hardly think this is that main issue. Most major IT firms (IGS, Ness, etc.) claim that they support Linux. They do not, however advocate it. Small and medium IT shops do not spend a lot in marketing. If you will go to the oparation manager most Israeli bussinesses, they will not have a clue on how to change vendors or IT outsourcing, be it Linux, Windows or Novell. One of the claims of FOSS is that the client is in power and can change vendors easily as plenty of vendors are able to provide the service. This is only true if the client uses a true consumer state of mind. I find that this is usualy not the case. [clip] Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux support companies in Israel
Interesting points from someone who probably understands th IT market in Israel. On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Gil Freund wrote: > If you will go to the oparation manager most Israeli bussinesses, they > will not have a clue on how to change vendors or IT outsourcing, be it > Linux, Windows or Novell. > Gabor wrote: > > > > One of the claims of FOSS is that the client is in power and can change > > vendors easily as plenty of vendors are able to provide the service. > > This is only true if the client uses a true consumer state of mind. I > find that this is usualy not the case. If these are true, then what is the value proposition of FOSS in Israel ? Technical superiority ? Ease of use ? Freedom ? Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Protocol Stack writing
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There was a mentioning of a mailing list about programming called > "Israel Hackers" or "Hacker IL" or something like this. Try looking it up, > maybe start with the archives of linux-il because this is were I heard > about this list. > Hackers-IL. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/ Regards, Shlomi Fish > Harmeet Uppal wrote: > > >Howdy All, > > > >I have an urgent need to make a three layer Protocol Stack for DLMS based > >metering technology on Linux which will be ported later to an Embedded OS.I > >understand this is work would be verydemanding but I need to do it. > > > >Where do I start? any inputs. I have never designed a stack before.What > >needs to be addressed. > > > >Any code Anywhere which can help me make the scaffold code. > > > >Thanks and Regards, > >Harmeet > > > > > > > >= > >To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >-- Your email is protected by Mailshell -- > >To block spam or change delivery options: > >http://www.mailshell.com/control.html?a=blshp8b9gc0rxhgk_srox_llfpptvypmvy7j > > > >FreshAddress.com http://rd.mailshell.com/ad482 > >Earn up to $3 for each of your friends who signs up with Mailshell! > >http://rd.mailshell.com/sp5 > > > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Writing a BitKeeper replacement is probably easier at this point than getting its license changed. Matt Mackall on OFTC.net #offtopic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux support companies in Israel
Gabor Szabo wrote: [snip] If these are true, then what is the value proposition of FOSS in Israel ? Technical superiority ? Yes! First and foremost! Ease of use ? Tricky question. Easy for who? Easy how? A sysdmin, a user and manager will have a completely different set of perspectives on what is easy. Freedom ? Not in the Israeli business vocabulary... Before one hails and advocates OSS one has to educated for better IT thinking: Find out what the business requirement are. Strip out MS-talk (mail and scheduling instead of exchange...). List the true functional requirement. Research both closed and open solution. Show case studies. Display the solutions. The most important things in my mind: FOSS advocates should have (and usually do) better understanding of IT technology, standards and trends. FOSS advocates should not blindly attack closed solutions, nor blindly hail OSS solutions. Always check your facts. Never use costs as an the first or only factor. Managers tend to make two assumptions: 1. Free (as in beer) = Cheap = low quality 2. If I pay for a license, the vendor has a responsibly toward me. There is little point in trying to hammer out these assumptions. Gil Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux support companies in Israel
Gil Freund wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: Freedom ? Not in the Israeli business vocabulary... Before one hails and advocates OSS one has to educated for better IT thinking: Find out what the business requirement are. Strip out MS-talk (mail and scheduling instead of exchange...). List the true functional requirement. Research both closed and open solution. Show case studies. Display the solutions. The most important things in my mind: FOSS advocates should have (and usually do) better understanding of IT technology, standards and trends. FOSS advocates should not blindly attack closed solutions, nor blindly hail OSS solutions. Always check your facts. Never use costs as an the first or only factor. Managers tend to make two assumptions: 1. Free (as in beer) = Cheap = low quality 2. If I pay for a license, the vendor has a responsibly toward me. There is little point in trying to hammer out these assumptions. Hi Gil, The points above, combined with the occational BSA ads and articles like http://whatsup.co.il/article.php?sid=1972 (9 german cities consider moving to Linux instead of paying MS for upgrading their systems next year) drive me to a "campeign idea": "Microsoft/BSA scares you? Move to Linux". Maybe combined with a "BSA" with a large "X" across it on leaflets at Hi-Tech shows. Does such a message carry a weight when a FOSS consultancy aproaches a prospective Israeli client? (Hmmm, maybe one should be careful with the "Anti BSA" message, you don't want to be portraid as advocating piracy, which the BSA managed to position itself as its main target). --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Propaganda Point (was: Re: linux support companies in Israel)
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Gil Freund wrote: > > Before one hails and advocates OSS one has to educated for better IT > > thinking: > > Find out what the business requirement are. > > Strip out MS-talk (mail and scheduling instead of exchange...). > > List the true functional requirement. > > Research both closed and open solution. > > Show case studies. > > Display the solutions. [... snipped ...] > Hi Gil, > > The points above, combined with the occational BSA ads and articles like > http://whatsup.co.il/article.php?sid=1972 (9 german cities consider > moving to Linux instead of paying MS for upgrading their systems next > year) drive me to a "campeign idea": "Microsoft/BSA scares you? Move to > Linux". Maybe combined with a "BSA" with a large "X" across it on > leaflets at Hi-Tech shows. Speaking of BSA and M$abuses, how about emphasizing the fact that MS are withdrawing WinNT support and forcing you to upgrade your legacy WinNT systems to WinXP if you want patches against threats like MSBlaster or SoBig.F? (Unfortunately, RedHat are shooting the figurative feet, by withdrawing support for old versions of the RH distribution; but at least 3rd party support is possible, in principle.) --- Omer My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vi question
hi i am using a version control software i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it while it is read-only. this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) how do i do that ( or part of it ) ? cheers, erez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: vi question
what about a script? here is a script i wrote in 5 min. you are missing the "if" to check if the file is read only, i don't know what program can test that, but i am sure others know(p.s i used bash): #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin MAILTO=root MAIL=/bin/mail CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvs/master cvs update $1 cvs edit $1 vi $1 * - * - * Tzahi Fadida MSc Student Information System Engineering Area Faculty of Industrial Engineering & Management Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erez Doron > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:15 PM > To: Ilug > Subject: vi question > > > hi > > i am using a version control software > i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it > while it is read-only. > this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because > the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. > > i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) > > how do i do that ( or part of it ) ? > > > cheers, > erez > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: vi question
Quoting Tzahi Fadida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > what about a script? > here is a script i wrote in 5 min. you are missing the "if" to check if the > file > is read only, i don't know what program can test that, but i am sure others > know(p.s i used bash): bash itself can test that: if [ ! -w filename ] then # do whatever you want for a readonly file fi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi question
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Erez Doron wrote: > i am using a version control software > i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it > while it is read-only. this is not a good idea, since a lot of times, you open a file with vi ust to view it. > this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because > the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. > > i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) ah, this makes more sense (i.e. the change operation causes the file to be checked out) but this ignores the fact that often one accidentally writes in a file without meaning to do so, and then immediately un-do the write operation). -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X won't give high-res with high colors
Hi all, Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in when I have them again. I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to install. It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work. However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support). Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information I might need in advance. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi question
guy keren wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Erez Doron wrote: i am using a version control software i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it while it is read-only. this is not a good idea, since a lot of times, you open a file with vi ust to view it. less is more ... if you view files with less and then decide you actually want to edit them pressing v in less will automagically put you in vi on that file. -- Lior Kesos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content Development Team Leader == "Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler" -- Albert Einstein
Re: X won't give high-res with high colors
Quoting Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest
> resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I
> can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but
> discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what
> it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no
> problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).
I'm not a real expert, but I think resolution detection works like this
(pseudocode):
foreach ( res in vesa_resolutions ) {
if ( monitor_supports( res, depth ) ) {
set_resolution( res, depth );
break;
}
}
if ( resolution_still_unset ) {
fail (X);
}
Although I think it also tries other depths in an outer loop if your depth
doesn't match, but I'm not sure.
I think your problem is that laptop monitors have resolutions that don't
necessarily match vesa standard resolutions, so you either have to give a
specific modeline (complete voodo), or hope that one of the monitor resolution
matches a vesa resolution. I would venture further to guess that the highest
vesa resolution supported by your monitor takes too much memory from the
graphics card to support full depth.
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Re: X won't give high-res with high colors
If the GPU is NVIDIA, then you need to install their drivers, otherwise X (sometimes) detects it wrong and uses the nv driver instead of nvidia. If it's not nvidia gpu, then post what is the hardware specs and the x log, if poossible. Oleg. - Original Message - From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: X won't give high-res with high colors > Hi all, > > Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in > when I have them again. > > I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have > exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to > install. > > It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At > least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work. > > However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest > resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I > can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but > discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what > it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no > problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support). > > Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think > of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high > availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information > I might need in advance. > > Shachar > > -- > Shachar Shemesh > Open Source integration consultant > Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re:Install RedHat 9 from network
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Re: vi question
i have a script that does checkout, but i have to do: 1. write the file -> i get a warning it is r/o 2. force write ( :w! ) -> still can't write 3. run checkout script 4. vi now tells me that the file i'm editing is older than the file on disk. i press 'o' for o.k. 5. i write again (:w) -> still read only 6. force write (:w! ) -> vi says again that the file on disk is newer, and verifies if i really want to save, i answer yes. i want to skip all this by doing it automatically cheers, erez. Tzahi Fadida wrote: what about a script? here is a script i wrote in 5 min. you are missing the "if" to check if the file is read only, i don't know what program can test that, but i am sure others know(p.s i used bash): #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin MAILTO=root MAIL=/bin/mail CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvs/master cvs update $1 cvs edit $1 vi $1 * - * - * Tzahi Fadida MSc Student Information System Engineering Area Faculty of Industrial Engineering & Management Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erez Doron Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:15 PM To: Ilug Subject: vi question hi i am using a version control software i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it while it is read-only. this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) how do i do that ( or part of it ) ? cheers, erez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi question
guy keren wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Erez Doron wrote: i am using a version control software i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it while it is read-only. this is not a good idea, since a lot of times, you open a file with vi ust to view it. this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) ah, this makes more sense (i.e. the change operation causes the file to be checked out) but this ignores the fact that often one accidentally writes in a file without meaning to do so, and then immediately un-do the write operation). i can always do 'uncheckout' cheers, erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: vi question
strange, whats the thing with the read only? if this is what you get when you check out a file then the "cvs watch on " was set on the file. this means, that before you start editing a file you must run "cvs edit " and the file will be set +write. you edit, save, commit. if you changed your mind before commit and want to return to the original file, just "cvs unedit ". anyway, if you had enough with the read only you can do "cvs watch off " on your directory because it could be the default policy for adding files. please note, that if your are not alone in this cvs repository, you will have to continue with the "cvs edit" "unedit" thing. good luck. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida MSc Student Information System Engineering Area Faculty of Industrial Engineering & Management Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > -Original Message- > From: Erez Doron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Ilug > Subject: Re: vi question > > > i have a script that does checkout, but i have to do: > 1. write the file -> i get a warning it is r/o > 2. force write ( :w! ) -> still can't write > 3. run checkout script > 4. vi now tells me that the file i'm editing is older than the file on > disk. i press 'o' for o.k. > 5. i write again (:w) -> still read only > 6. force write (:w! ) -> vi says again that the file on disk is newer, > and verifies if i really want to save, i answer yes. > > i want to skip all this by doing it automatically > > cheers, > > erez. > > > Tzahi Fadida wrote: > > >what about a script? > >here is a script i wrote in 5 min. you are missing the "if" to check > if the file > >is read only, i don't know what program can test that, but i am sure others > >know(p.s i used bash): > >#!/bin/sh > >PATH=/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin > >MAILTO=root > >MAIL=/bin/mail > >CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvs/master > >cvs update $1 > >cvs edit $1 > >vi $1 > > > > > >* - * - * > >Tzahi Fadida > >MSc Student > >Information System Engineering Area > >Faculty of Industrial Engineering & Management > >Technion - Israel Institute of Technology > >Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000 > >Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * > > > >WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at > http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erez Doron > >>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:15 PM > >>To: Ilug > >>Subject: vi question > >> > >> > >>hi > >> > >>i am using a version control software > >>i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it > >>while it is read-only. > >>this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because > >>the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. > >> > >>i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) > >> > >>how do i do that ( or part of it ) ? > >> > >> > >>cheers, > >>erez > >> > >> > >>= > >>To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >>the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >>echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi question
maybe i didn't explain mysel well enough i am not using cvs but clearcase. when a file is checked in - it is read only (both as r--r--r-- and as read-only-file-system) when i check it out via a command, then it is still as r--r--r--, but i can now change it with chmod. te filesystem is no longer read only anyway, my question was about vi, not about a script. i mannaged to map to do almost what i wanted. i added a line to ~/.vimrc: map :!ctco %:p:w! this will run 'ctco' script with the full path of the file i am editing, then deos a ':w!' to save the only thing left for me to do is : 1. press f9 2. press y for yes-i-am-sure (strange i couldn't add that to the map command) what i still need is that if the file is read-only, whenver i press 'i' for insert or 'o' or I or a or A etc ... that it will do what f9 does, ( and also get rid of the 'y' i have to answer) cheers, erez. Tzahi Fadida wrote: strange, whats the thing with the read only? if this is what you get when you check out a file then the "cvs watch on " was set on the file. this means, that before you start editing a file you must run "cvs edit " and the file will be set +write. you edit, save, commit. if you changed your mind before commit and want to return to the original file, just "cvs unedit ". anyway, if you had enough with the read only you can do "cvs watch off " on your directory because it could be the default policy for adding files. please note, that if your are not alone in this cvs repository, you will have to continue with the "cvs edit" "unedit" thing. good luck. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida MSc Student Information System Engineering Area Faculty of Industrial Engineering & Management Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Erez Doron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ilug Subject: Re: vi question i have a script that does checkout, but i have to do: 1. write the file -> i get a warning it is r/o 2. force write ( :w! ) -> still can't write 3. run checkout script 4. vi now tells me that the file i'm editing is older than the file on disk. i press 'o' for o.k. 5. i write again (:w) -> still read only 6. force write (:w! ) -> vi says again that the file on disk is newer, and verifies if i really want to save, i answer yes. i want to skip all this by doing it automatically cheers, erez. Tzahi Fadida wrote: what about a script? here is a script i wrote in 5 min. you are missing the "if" to check if the file is read only, i don't know what program can test that, but i am sure others know(p.s i used bash): #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin MAILTO=root MAIL=/bin/mail CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvs/master cvs update $1 cvs edit $1 vi $1 * - * - * Tzahi Fadida MSc Student Information System Engineering Area Faculty of Industrial Engineering & Management Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erez Doron Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:15 PM To: Ilug Subject: vi question hi i am using a version control software i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it while it is read-only. this includes running a command line, then reloading the file (because the date changes when i checkout the file), then let me edit it. i want all to be automatically ( e.g. when i change the file) how do i do that ( or part of it ) ? cheers, erez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi question
On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 18:52 Asia/Jerusalem, Erez Doron wrote: what i still need is that if the file is read-only, whenver i press 'i' for insert or 'o' or I or a or A etc ... that it will do what f9 does, ( and also get rid of the 'y' i have to answer) OK, what you need is (a) to define a function in .vimrc to perform the operation you want, and (b) define an autocmd to run that function. The autocmd should respond to the event FileChangedRO. Actually, the help system says: "FileChangedRO - Before making the first change to a read-only file. Can be used to check-out the file from a source control system". Now, for details, open vim and write ":help autocmd". As for defining a function, use ":help function". I use this system to change the hebrew Aleph whenever the encoding is changed from iso to unicode. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi question
ביום חמישי, 18 בספטמבר 2003, 16:36, נכתב על ידי Lior Kesos: > guy keren wrote: > >On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Erez Doron wrote: > >>i am using a version control software > >>i want vi to automatically checkout a file whenver i try to edit it > >>while it is read-only. > > > >this is not a good idea, since a lot of times, you open a file with vi ust > >to view it. > > less is more ... > if you view files with less and then decide you actually want to edit > them pressing v in less will automagically put you in vi on that file. cool... nice trick. -- diego, 22 Elul 5763 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking for a mobile unit with shelves to be used as mobile rack.
A full fledged rack is too expensive in my view when there should be cheaper replacements that fulfill my needs. Can anyone suggest suppliers for the following unit: 1. It could be used as an equipment rack in the sense that it has shelves where equipment can be put to work. The shelves might not be rigid in the sense that they might contain holes or made of bars. This will make the whole thing lighter, hopefully cheaper and also might help to get cables through. Stability, of course, is still vital. 2. Must have wheels but still be stable. 3. Cheap. 4. Low self weigh. 5. At most 2 side walls if it has walls at the first place. Preferably with only bars, not walls, to insure a stable construction. I guess that a high, mobile unit where one can put his TV set, and video and stereo equipment is close to what I am looking for. In fact, I saw such a thing at the catalogue Ikea spread lately in mail boxes in Tel-Aviv. It is their TUNSTA series. Still, I would like something with the depth, width and carrying capacity of their shorter model, the height of their taller model. I would also like it to be cheaper, and might be obtainable in Tel-Aviv. It could be that cheaper is not likely, since the prices they wrote are around 425 NIS, but I hope at least to get something that is better suited to my requirements for the same price. Aren't there such units made of plastic or wood, perhaps for self construction? -- Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resend: Flash support stopped working
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:45, Vasiliev Michael wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 06:53, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > I can't figure out what I did wrong, but I can no longer see Flash in > > Konq or Mozilla 1.3.1. It used to work, and I don't know when it stopped > I am sorry about the delay, but i experienced the same problem on my > computer and did not notice it :) That's mainly because I use Opera as my > main browser. Naturally, in Opera the flash support never stopped working. > Considered the fact it uses the plugin directly, the problem has to be the > Mozilla Plugger settings (I performed an upgrade to 1.4 a few days ago). So > I reinstalled the rpm version of flash player from > http://macromedia.mplug.org, it reregistered itself with the plugger and First of all, I tried installing Opera and as you wrote, Flash works. But here's something strange. I've discovered that my problem with Flash is not on all sites. So maybe the problem is not with Flash, but something else altogether. Specifically, on www.netaction.co.il I don't see the Flash banner ad with Mozilla 1.3.1 or Konq, but I do see it with Opera. Flash did work on this site in the past. On other sites, all 3 browsers work. What am I missing? BTW, although I don't intend to move to Opera (at least not at the moment), I'm curious if anyone knows how to get it to work properly with BiDi? I can see Hebrew, but none of the three Hebrew encodings available from the View menu (Visual, Logical, Windows) work properly. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.1) on LINUX Mandrake 9.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resend: Flash support stopped working
sorry for sending a second copy of this message, but I forgot to write that re-installing the Flash plugin didn't help. In fact, I did that before writing the first message in this thread last week. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:45, Vasiliev Michael wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 06:53, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > I can't figure out what I did wrong, but I can no longer see Flash in > > Konq or Mozilla 1.3.1. It used to work, and I don't know when it stopped > I am sorry about the delay, but i experienced the same problem on my > computer and did not notice it :) That's mainly because I use Opera as my > main browser. Naturally, in Opera the flash support never stopped working. > Considered the fact it uses the plugin directly, the problem has to be the > Mozilla Plugger settings (I performed an upgrade to 1.4 a few days ago). So > I reinstalled the rpm version of flash player from > http://macromedia.mplug.org, it reregistered itself with the plugger and First of all, I tried installing Opera and as you wrote, Flash works. But here's something strange. I've discovered that my problem with Flash is not on all sites. So maybe the problem is not with Flash, but something else altogether. Specifically, on www.netaction.co.il I don't see the Flash banner ad with Mozilla 1.3.1 or Konq, but I do see it with Opera. Flash did work on this site in the past. On other sites, all 3 browsers work. What am I missing? BTW, although I don't intend to move to Opera (at least not at the moment), I'm curious if anyone knows how to get it to work properly with BiDi? I can see Hebrew, but none of the three Hebrew encodings available from the View menu (Visual, Logical, Windows) work properly. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.1) on LINUX Mandrake 9.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running rhn_register
I try to run rhn_register on a remote machine. I get the following error: A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out') Does anyone have any idean what might cause this error? Can it be the firewall? If so, what port should I open in the firewall? -- Ori Idan (This mail was sent using Kmail running on Mandrake GNU/LINUX = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running rhn_register
Sound likes the FW. Port 110??? (yes, I know that's pop3 port). Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message - From: "Ori Idan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:14 PM Subject: Running rhn_register > I try to run rhn_register on a remote machine. > I get the following error: > A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out') > > Does anyone have any idean what might cause this error? > Can it be the firewall? > If so, what port should I open in the firewall? > > -- > Ori Idan > (This mail was sent using Kmail running on Mandrake GNU/LINUX > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running rhn_register
On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:28 pm, Lior Kaplan wrote: > Sound likes the FW. > > Port 110??? > (yes, I know that's pop3 port). > That's what I thought but since this machine works fine with POP3 then I can hardly believe that is the probelm. -- Ori Idan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't give high-res with high colors
Hi, Could you give me the Dell model name and number please? To me, it seems it identied the amount of ram for X wrongly... Thanks, Hetz - Original Message - From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: X won't give high-res with high colors > Hi all, > > Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in > when I have them again. > > I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have > exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to > install. > > It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At > least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work. > > However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest > resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I > can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but > discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what > it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no > problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support). > > Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think > of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high > availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information > I might need in advance. > > Shachar > > -- > Shachar Shemesh > Open Source integration consultant > Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This message was checked by MailScan for WorkgroupMail. www.workgroupmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install RedHat 9 from network.
Yup, It really depends how you put those images. The best solution would be creating on your "server" an NFS mount point with the ISO's inside.. Then, boot the first redhat CD, and type: linux askmethod This will let you select which method to install.. Thanks, Hetz - Original Message - From: "David Harel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Install RedHat 9 from network. > Hi, > > Is Linux RH9 still supports installation over the network? If so how do > I do it? > > -- > Thanks. > > David Harel, > > == > > Home office +972 4 6921986 > Fax:+972 4 6921986 > Cellular: +972 54 534502 > Snail Mail: Amuka > D.N Merom Hagalil > 13802 > Israel > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This message was checked by MailScan for WorkgroupMail. www.workgroupmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't give high-res with high colors
Hi, It pretty much seems to be incorrect H and V frequencies detected.check XF86Config with manuals. Also check modes in XF86Config. behdad On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in > when I have them again. > > I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have > exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to > install. > > It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At > least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work. > > However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest > resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I > can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but > discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what > it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no > problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support). > > Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think > of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high > availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information > I might need in advance. > > Shachar > > -- Behdad Esfahbod 27 Shahrivar 1382, 2003 Sep 18 http://behdad.org/ [Finger for Geek Code] If you do a job too well, you'll get stuck with it. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Help! server, browser, firewall or network issue ?
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 20:52, Oded Arbel wrote:
> Hi people - I beg for our forgiveness of the off topic post (well,
> everything here runs linux so its not totally off topic), but I got the
> darnest thing which I can't put my thumb on, still can't figure it out and
> I've ran out of ides.
>
> I have a site, for the sake of the argument lets call it
> http://org.demons.co.il/forum. but its terribly terribly slow - page take
> several minutes(!!) to load.
> At first I thought it was it was network - checked the network monitor, and
> its not.
> Then I said its probably the rendering of the page - put counters on the
> PHP files and they all render in less then 1/10 of a second
> Then I said it's CPU load - but load rarely goes over 0.10
> Then I tries to load the page with links (text web browser), and it flies !
> Then I tried some other clients - all the standard graphical ones work the
> same (real slow). links and links-graphic are fast, as well as any command
> line HTTP downloader I tries. elinks and lynx are again extremely slow.
> running tcpdump on the local machine I can see the request being pushed out
> and the ack on the request packet comming back and then nothing for a
> while, then the client sends FIN and the request again at which point the
> server sends some 10 or so packets for which the client answers with RST.
> then they both wait a while and go at the whole thing again.
Ok, here's an update in case someone is interested - I still don't know why it
happens, but I can fix it - sorta..
It only happens in the forum because the forum is written in PHP and uses
ob_start('ob_gz_handler');
commenting out that line, and everything works perfectly (no gzip support of
course). this is what I think is why everything but links chokes - links
doesn't pertain to support gzip compression, so ob_gz_handler doesn't do
anything for it.
now more funny stuff - output_buffering is off. its the default and I forgot
to change it. so I turn it on and everything still works, then I turn on
ob_gz_handler, and this time I get the response - but its all garbled, like
the browser can't understand the encoding.
I noticed that the content being received from the server when ob_gz_handler
is on is indeed gzip compressed data, but with an additional \r\n at front.
after I traced that to one of the php files and removed it, things started to
work again.
apparently, the browser gets stuck when ob_gz_handler is active and there is
data before the handler is called. this data gets flushed out of the output
buffer and is sent infront of the gzip compressed, but after the headers -
which messes up stuff. additionally, ob_gz_handler waits for the entire page
to render before compressing it and sending it all away in one big chunk -
unlike using zlib.output_compression which isn't affected by whitespace at
the header and is compressing on the fly.
What I don't understand is why I see this as a network error - tcpdumping at
the server I can see the reponse packet being sent out but never getting an
ack. Also - I don't understand why it eoes work after a long time - giving
the browser something like two minutes will allow it to eventually get the
page up. this behavior is not consistant with either network problem or gzip
compression issue.
Weird
--
Oded
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Debian 3.0 & lindows 4.0
Hi list, I am testing a few distros. I got Lindows 4. My review: I got a new P4 2.4 with intel motherboard with agp , eth onboard. RH9 installs perfect in it. Lindows goes to graphic mode (640x480) cause it could not resolve the module for the video card. After a few screens you are asked to accept some question, but the buttons are unreacheables. I though that I may found some help on the net. nothing there. There is a diagnostics mode that throws you to the shell. There is also no info in the net of what can you do with it. but anyhow I tried adding under the Display Section: Virtual 800 600 and it did not work. I installed in another machine, the install asks you for a password (not required) for what it became clear after it that it was for the root user. On the kdm it shows as username administrator, but if you check the /etc/passwd there is only root. there is no ssh installed. Ppl are supposed to use the click & run to install software (you have to pay for the service). opening terminal and running cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows that points to the debian stable. so you can install whatever you whant with synaptic ( you need to run apt-get install synaptic first). :) Now Debian 3 what a deception. I tried cd1, cd5, mini. I tried booting the bf24 ... it has the module eepro100 but even do running cat /proc/pci shows that it is my ethernet card. it fails to load even when forced. Googling I only got a few postof people saying that either it work out of the box or that they have to recompile a new kernel Knoppix (based on debian) runs the module without problem on the same pc. I know that till now I wrote like a review, but the real point is that I am using RH for long time and I would like to switch to Debian because I like the apt-get system ( install once, run forever). I am sure there must be out there debians servers running the lastest software with a uptime of years. Can anybody help me to help me get in theDebian world? I though of libranet, but I would like to stick with the source. yours, Meir. -- Meir Michanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running rhn_register
110 is the errno number (/usr/include/asm/errno.h): #define ETIMEDOUT 110 /* Connection timed out */ Ori Idan wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:28 pm, Lior Kaplan wrote: Sound likes the FW. Port 110??? (yes, I know that's pop3 port). That's what I thought but since this machine works fine with POP3 then I can hardly believe that is the probelm. -- Ori Idan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your email is protected by Mailshell -- To block spam or change delivery options: http://www.mailshell.com/control.html?a=blshp8b9gc0rxhgk_srox_llfpptvypmvy7j FreshAddress.com http://rd.mailshell.com/ad482 Earn up to $3 for each of your friends who signs up with Mailshell! http://rd.mailshell.com/sp5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running rhn_register
Are you aware of the requirement to download manually the up2date package, as described in a light-blue box at the top of https://rhn.redhat.com/? --Amos Ori Idan wrote: I try to run rhn_register on a remote machine. I get the following error: A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out') Does anyone have any idean what might cause this error? Can it be the firewall? If so, what port should I open in the firewall? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 3.0 & lindows 4.0
Can you write the error modprobe (or insmod) output with this module? It would help us to solve your problem. Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message - From: "Meir Michanie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "iglu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Debian 3.0 & lindows 4.0 > Hi list, > I am testing a few distros. > I got Lindows 4. > My review: > I got a new P4 2.4 with intel motherboard with agp , eth onboard. > RH9 installs perfect in it. > Lindows goes to graphic mode (640x480) cause it could not resolve the > module for the video card. After a few screens you are asked to accept > some question, but the buttons are unreacheables. I though that I may > found some help on the net. nothing there. There is a diagnostics mode > that throws you to the shell. There is also no info in the net of what > can you do with it. > but anyhow I tried adding under the Display Section: > Virtual 800 600 > and it did not work. > I installed in another machine, the install asks you for a password (not > required) for what it became clear after it that it was for the root > user. > On the kdm it shows as username administrator, but if you check the > /etc/passwd there is only root. > there is no ssh installed. > Ppl are supposed to use the click & run to install software (you have to > pay for the service). > opening terminal and running > cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows that points to the debian stable. > so you can install whatever you whant with synaptic ( you need to run > apt-get install synaptic first). > > :) > > Now Debian 3 > > what a deception. I tried cd1, cd5, mini. > I tried booting the bf24 ... > it has the module eepro100 but even do running cat /proc/pci shows that > it is my ethernet card. > it fails to load even when forced. > > Googling I only got a few postof people saying that either it work out > of the box or that they have to recompile a new kernel > Knoppix (based on debian) runs the module without problem on the same > pc. > > I know that till now I wrote like a review, but the real point is that I > am using RH for long time and I would like to switch to Debian because I > like the apt-get system ( install once, run forever). > > I am sure there must be out there debians servers running the lastest > software with a uptime of years. > > Can anybody help me to help me get in theDebian world? I though of > libranet, but I would like to stick with the source. > > yours, Meir. > > > -- > Meir Michanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't give high-res with high colors
I don't know if this could help but if you are in a need for some non-standard modelines for X, trying to bypass some limitations, the following might help calculating such modelines: http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html http://zaph.com/Modeline/ http://koala.ilog.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines Boaz. Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in when I have them again. I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to install. It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work. However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support). Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information I might need in advance. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latest article on Linux + Open Source in local media
> Can you tell me what makes him (or anyone else) an addicted Microsofti ?
> Is it fear of the unknown ?
> Is it that Microsoft gave them some knowledge that makes them powerful ?
>
> Gabor
1) Last week I finishedworking late, and saw that the security guy had a laptop with
him.
2 sentences later I found out he TRIED to install RH 7.? on it and it stopped during
the
install and jammed his pc. Immediately I told him not to worry, and the next day I
gave
him 3 cd's of MDK 9.1 (couldn't find the RH9 I got from linux.israel.net conference).
He's a student programmer
2) My boss at the law office has one computer with win95 on it. The employer asked me
why she doesn't have internet, and I found out that she had no IE installed (is it
possible?). I grabbed the opportunity and installed Opera 7.2beta (hold the flames,
it's
lighter than firebird, and that's an old machine). She told my boss about it, and the
next
day he asked me if I could install these lightweight browsers that don't take too much
resources, and in the same time it would be best if I unistall IE from them. Told him
that
IE is part of the OS, and that current freeware/free browsers are superior, but have
one
problem: they can't navigate in the Israeli court site (www.court.gov.il).
No law firm can work without it.
Epilogue:
1) I don't know what about the programmer, he was probably re-assigned, but at least I
got to point him to whatsup for help if he needed it.
2) As for my boss, I'll be on the lookout for changes in browsers / the site itself.
BTW, I
contacted Opera about it, and they told me what the problem was in the site. Sent it
to
the site admins. Got no response.
This is the message I sent:
-- this mail should be addressed to the person in-charge of building/ maintaining the
site
--
Your site had helped me a lot, since it has been for some time now, that i'm working
as
an
intern in a law firm. The information is precisely what i need in 87% of the cases.
This
saves a
lot of money for my boss, due to less time spent in calling the information center or
even going
to court.
There is one problem, though. Last week i started working in office with the browser i
work at
home: Opera browser. It's fast, it's small, it's easy to use and i like it. But no
matter what
i tried
to do, it couldn't open a page with the links in court.gov.il homepage. In this time
of
despair, i
turned to the Opera development team, which gave me the following response (i've
shortened
it for you):
--
The "window.navigate" function is an incompatible extension to JavaScript -
it is not supported by any other browser than IE and is therefore best
avoided. "location" assignments can be used instead, e.g.
window.navigate('home.html') // IE only
can be replaced with
window.location='home.html' // All known JavaScript-supporting browsers
--
This is a weird thing to me, since court.gov.il is a government site, that's supposed
to
serve
the entire population, which means that from the beginning there shouldn't have been
any IE
specific tags. This seems to be like a simple Find&Replace task, that would enable the
entire
population to use this convenient site.
If you want more details, you can contact Opera Software at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And again, you've managed to make a great site, why not let everybody use it?
With Appreciation,
Dotan Mazor
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AC'97 playing but no sound heard
Hi all! I recently had to upgrade my computer. I re-installed Mandrake 9.1 on it. Everything except the sound works great, and I can use X11 and connect to the Internet. However, I have problems with the sound. I have an on-board AC'97 card. I set all the mixer settings to near-maximal volume, and the apps actually play sound (xmms displays these waveforms), but no sound is heard. The card is on-board and works perfectly fine in Windows 98'. Here are some files and settings: <<< shlomi:~# aumix -q vol 0, 100, P pcm 100, 100 speaker 0, 0 line 100, 100, P mic 0, 0, R cd 100, 100, P igain 0, 0 line1 0, 0, P phin 0, 0, P video 100, 100, P shlomi:/# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [82901EBICH5]: ICH - Intel 82901EB-ICH5 Intel 82901EB-ICH5 at 0xfebff800, irq 17 shlomi:/# cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [0- 0]: ctl 17: [0- 1]: digital audio playback 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture 33: : timer shlomi:/# cat /proc/asound/pcm 00-00: Intel ICH : Intel 82901EB-ICH5 : playback 1 : capture 1 00-01: Intel ICH - IEC958 : Intel 82901EB-ICH5 - IEC958 : playback 1 shlomi:/# cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.0rc8. Compiled on Jul 24 2003 for kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk with versioned symbols. >>> The board is Intel D865PERL. So far I've tried everything (aumix, alsamixer, amixer, kmix). Nothing I tried works. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Writing a BitKeeper replacement is probably easier at this point than getting its license changed. Matt Mackall on OFTC.net #offtopic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Propaganda Point (was: Re: linux support companies in Israel)
> Speaking of BSA and M$abuses, how about emphasizing the fact that MS are > withdrawing WinNT support and forcing you to upgrade your legacy WinNT > systems to WinXP if you want patches against threats like MSBlaster or > SoBig.F? 1) BSA- Whenever I talk to an MS user about the option to work with a system that's free, he says he already has a free system... Frightening buisnesses is also problematic, since Linux appeals firstly to the servers, and if the boss has a stolen server installed, no worker knows about it. Believe me, I know. 2) Security issues- Most people have the following distinction: (a) When you have a security issue in an open software/standard - It's because this kind of software is made by freaks. A friend of mine started a new project, and his programmer made his site with php; When I told him that php is as good as asp, plus it can be seen in any browser, he replied "but php is a language for freeks" (php zo safa shel freekim!). (b) When a security issue rizes on any (or all) MS OS's or software - It's because of those horrible russian hackers (FMO they should be mutilated) that want to destroy computers for fun, and they probably do it because they use Linux and hate MS. By now, we should all be aware that in order to reach more users, the frame has to be m-o-r-e appealing and easy to use. Trying to moralize users just won't work, since it's OK to take a free MS CD from a friend. I guess that there's something very wrong about me talking this way, writing this Email on my pegasus mail program, that runs only on MS98se... Wanted to switch to Mozilla on my Linux partition, but couldn't import/export my past years' messages. Dotan -- Dotan Mazor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 064 - 432 950 http://dotan.run.to = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Propaganda Point
Dotan Mazor wrote: Speaking of BSA and M$abuses, how about emphasizing the fact that MS are withdrawing WinNT support and forcing you to upgrade your legacy WinNT systems to WinXP if you want patches against threats like MSBlaster or SoBig.F? 1) BSA- Whenever I talk to an MS user about the option to work with a system that's free, he says he already has a free system... Frightening buisnesses is also problematic, since Linux appeals firstly to the servers, and if the boss has a stolen server installed, no worker knows about it. Believe me, I know. Software pirates should not be a target for FOSS advocates. I would steer and dissasociate from those. The last thing that the OSS movment needs is to be associated with criminals. Dotan, I would consider the links on your site ;). [snip] Dotan -- Dotan Mazor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 064 - 432 950 http://dotan.run.to = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
