jedit jaundice

[J.]

B.H.
I iherited a linux computer full of lilypond files and I was told that I have 
to set up3 editors here [jedit emacs vim].
I heard that the lilypond tool for jed. is fantastible every one on the site 
says so. But no place on the plugin manager has it.
Maybe I got senile and I don't see it or some thing?I'm atotal newbi and need 
hand holding, :(
Also can't set up emacs or vim either.
First jedit.
Help.

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vim vagaries

[J.]

Hi Again evrey body, I'm happy to say that with because of the help you gave me 
I was not only able to get jedit up and running for lilypond  but was 
encouraged to succede in setting up emacs too!
Vim though is somthing else.
I looked at the directions on the lilypond site for setting it up but, because 
of my noviciate I got confused with all the places and symbols.
i.e. can you add all the lilpond  things into the place where vim is 
(/user/bin/share/vim) or have to make a ~/.vim and how does one modify the 
files when the're found. [Whew!]
Would appreciat some help like you gave last time.

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Lilypond incipits

[J.]

Hi every one and thank you all again for the advice on the text editors.
If some one can help or point me to documentation in how to make 20 note 
incipits in Lilypond for a large folk song collection I am working to publish 
from the linux computer I have inherited. 
I want to take the opening phrase of each one and create an index which I want 
to print as a work referance and later to incorporate it into the book.
Thank you all in advance.
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Re: Right-margin & aligning of

[J . Van]

> I don't think right-margin exists - there's just left-margin and
> line-width. Since left and right margins are by default 10mm, setting
> left margin to 20mm means that the right-margin becomes 0mm. 

Mark,

Setting the line-width indeed solved my problem. 
Thank you!

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RE: GTK and LilyPond

[J L]

Hi,

This sounds like a case of .dll hell. 

There are a few things that you can try doing:
1) Changing the order of paths to lilypond and/or gtk libs in your PATH variable
2) About the renaming of the .dlls that the installer asks you to do: LET IT DO 
IT! LilyPond will cope fine with that, as I've done that here when I was 
installing a standalone GTK package for GIMP. 

The conflicting .dlls are ones that both LilyPond and GTK use (I think they're 
standard GNU libraries, so that would explain a lot).

Hope that helps,
Aligorith

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Subject: GTK and LilyPond

I use LilyPond 2.10.29 on Windows 2000.
 
I've long noticed that installing the GTK separately from LilyPond (as it is 
needed for other programs) sometimes causes problems (and so does installing 
LilyPond after installing the separate GTK).
 
Is it possible to get a distribution of LilyPond that doesn't have the GTK or 
GTK elements bundled, but rather just relies on the one already installed?
 
Anyway, whenever I install LilyPond, GIMP doesn't work anymore because of 
something to do with this.
 
When I installed the separate GTK afterward (and then GIMP), this time at 
least, LilyPond was behaving 'strangely' (the computer slowed down 
tremendously, even after all the programs stopped running, and almost crashed; 
I had to restart it to get it back to normal).  GIMP works fine in this case, 
though (until I install a new version of LilyPond).
 
I know something that could potentially fix the problem, but I'm a little 
afraid to try.  When I install the GTK (with LilyPond already there), it asks 
me if I want to rename some of the LilyPond files (I've always said no).  Will 
LilyPond still work if I rename these files?


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Measure runs off PDF file after 5 8th notes in 4/4 time

[John J]

It isn't easy to search the archive for this bizarre
problem. Everything was 
working fine until the moment it stopped working. 
Before, everything lived up
to the hype and I was happy, after, I just keep trying
things without anything 
working.  The first line of this piece, lilypond
prints 5 measures.  The second
line has 14.5 measures and they are crammed with
notes. The last line has 6 measures
of notes followed by an empty measure in all three
parts and then pianoRH has continuing
staff lines.  I have measure checks in the piece and
all pass even at the final 
measure of 32 bars. I tried adding empty measures to
pianoLH and clarinet but that shortened
pianoRH by an empty measure.  I am using 2.11.33 now
after using 2.10.33 with no change.
I have specified the paper size with no change in the
output.  If anyone has seen anything
like this, I would be happy to know how to work around
it. FYI, the midi plays correctly and the PS version
is
identically messed up.  I am running Ubuntu linux and
both 704 and 710 work the same.

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RE: Measure runs off PDF file after 5 8th notes in 4/4 time

[John J]

Thanks for the help on this issue without even looking
at the source.  I added measure checks for every
measure until it cleaned up.  As Trevor says there was
a long measure that caused the problem and now I'm
back to working on the music.  I had one other email
that also mentioned this as the likely source and
grateful for the quick and accurate response the I got
from the list. 
regards,
JJ

--- Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> John
> 
> The usual cause of this behaviour is because
> LilyPond cannot
> find a suitable place to break the line.  Line
> breaks can
> occur only at 'complete' bars, ie where the last
> note(s) in
> the bar in all staves end(s) at the automatically
> inserted
> barline.  If any note carries over no break can take
> place.
> A single wrongly inserted duration can progagate
> this
> condition though many bars.  A bar check will
> generate a
> warning at each check where a carry-over of duration
> occurs.
> If carry-overs are intended, a manually inserted bar
> can
> indicate to LP that a break may occur.  Other things
> that
> can prevent a line break are a sequence of manually
> inserted
> beams or tuplets which straddle barlines.
> 
> Trevor D
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > John J
> > Sent: 02 November 2007 00:48
> > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> > Subject: Measure runs off PDF file after 5 8th
> > notes in 4/4 time
> >
> >
> > It isn't easy to search the archive for this
> bizarre
> > problem. Everything was
> > working fine until the moment it stopped working.
> > Before, everything lived up
> > to the hype and I was happy, after, I just keep
> trying
> > things without anything
> > working.  The first line of this piece, lilypond
> > prints 5 measures.  The second
> > line has 14.5 measures and they are crammed with
> > notes. The last line has 6 measures
> > of notes followed by an empty measure in all three
> > parts and then pianoRH has continuing
> > staff lines.  I have measure checks in the piece
> and
> > all pass even at the final
> > measure of 32 bars. I tried adding empty measures
> to
> > pianoLH and clarinet but that shortened
> > pianoRH by an empty measure.  I am using 2.11.33
> now
> > after using 2.10.33 with no change.
> > I have specified the paper size with no change in
> the
> > output.  If anyone has seen anything
> > like this, I would be happy to know how to work
> around
> > it. FYI, the midi plays correctly and the PS
> version
> > is
> > identically messed up.  I am running Ubuntu linux
> and
> > both 704 and 710 work the same.
> >

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Few more questions from a beginner

[J. Cohen]

I've managed to get this far on Lachrimae from the help that people on
the list have provided so far:
http://www.guitarmiami.com/tank/lachrimae.ly
http://www.guitarmiami.com/tank/lachrimae.pdf

I haven't been able to figure out a few things:

* Put some naturals in parentheses (e.g., measures 8 and 9)

* Move rests to correct height.  Many of the rests aren't appearing at
the same height as their voices. (e.g., measures 3 and 7)

* In 4/4 isn't it better to break 8th notes into groups of two instead
of groups of four? (e.g., last measure) Is it possible to do that in
Lilypond?

* Some of the notes are stacked on top of each other. (e.g., measure 4)
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Lettres accentuées

[j-f.stephant]

Bonjour,

Je cherche à utiliser des lettres accentuées dans de toutes petites 
partitions.


Je n'ai pas trouvé, sans doute parce que j'ai mal cherché, la solution.

Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?

J'utilise la version 2.5.11 et je crois avoir compris les petits 
exemples du tutoriel :

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Single-staff.html#Single-staff

Merci

Jacques



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accord en français

[j-f.stephant]

Bonjour,

Je sais, maintenant, mette du texte en français, avec les lettres 
accentuées, mais je n'arrive pas à mettre les accords en français (au 
dessus de la portée : le chormode).


Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider.

Merci

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Dom m, Mim m

[j-f.stephant]

Bonjour

I wish to obtain on my partition:  MIb Dom Re Mim
I give him the 6 following lines: 
The result is:  MIb Dom m Re Mim m

Where was I mistaken?  Thank you

harmonies = \chordmode {
  ees4  c4:m  d4 e4:m }
   \context ChordNames {
\set instrument = #"italian"
   \italianChords
\harmonies}

Merci

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Windows Installer 2.6.0 and Ptyhon Scripts

[J L]

Hi,

I've recently downloaded the 2.6.0 windows installer and am glad to see that 
some progress has been made in trying to get the Python scripts functional.


Regarding the context-menu or the menu that pops up on right-clicking a .ly 
file, the lilywins command should be modified to: (extension removed from 
/bin/lily-wins)

C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c '/bin/lily-wins "%1"'

I have also modified mine so that convert-ly is easily usable. The path to 
the python interpreter and the path to LilyPond should be dealt with by the 
installer.
"C:\Python24\Python.exe" "C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py" 
-e  "%1"


Also, it would be helpful to add
sys.stdin.readline()
statements in the python scripts in places where they are likely to 
terminate, to make them more userfriendly.


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Install and Running Windows Native 2.6.0

[Trent J]

Good Afternoon all,

I have just install the native Lilypond 2.6.0 and am currently having 
diffulty in accessing all the features of the program. First of all I 
discovered that installing the program in the usually "Program Files" 
directory causes problems later on because of the space in the folder names. 
I sorted this out by installing it in just c:\lilypond the drag drop feature 
works fine now.


But my problems come after trying to do anything besides the drag the file 
over to the lilypond icon and produce a PDF.


1: How do you run the convert-ly program? Ms-Dos shell recognises no 
program.

2: How do you change the default lilypad editor??
3: The VIM files also seem to be missing from this release.

There seems to be no Windows specific documentation so I have no idea how to 
get everything up and running.


Any help would be appreciated.

P.S. Someone contacted my a while ago about beefing up the figured bass mode 
in lilypond. I would still like this to happen but never received any 
contact back after answering their email.


Regards,

Trent




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Figured Bass Improvements Potential Sponsorship of Improving this Feature.

[Trent J]

Dear All,
Currently I am thinking about sponsoring the improvement of the figured bass system within LilyPond.
The Main features that I am proposing are:
1: The alignment of the figures are calcuated from the top of the figured group and spaced appropriately from the bottom of the note they appear under. i.e. the figures will be placed dynamically from the bass note rather than the current method of aligning along a baseline based on the number of figures. Also the same facility to place the figures above the continuo part and again dynamically spaced from the note to avoid collisions.
2: The introduction of spanner lines. These are used mainly in french baroque music as well as some sacred music scores. They indicate the prolongation of a figure or group of figures. e.g
6   --
4   --
2  ---
or
6
4 -
2
indicating the entire group to be prolonged.
or 
6 ---
5 --3
2 -
indicating that the 6th and 2nd stay the same but the 5th moved to a 3rd.
3. Lastly that the figures are centred on the number with modifying accidentals placed on either side. Also accidentals by themselves can be used eg. 
#
5
indicating a sharpened 3rd.
If anyone else has ideas or wishes to contribute to the funding of this feature please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Regards,
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Re: Cygwin install of 2.6?

[Trent J]

I tried the same with Cygwin ..got the same error message... tried copying the file and adding the extra .pfa but this time the same error occured with 
error: can't find file: /usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/type1//PFAPFAemmentaler-26.pfa.pfa.pfa - keeps on adding an extra .pfa for some strange reason.
TrentFrom: Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: Rob Vlasaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Re: Cygwin install of 2.6?Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:48:09 +0200Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:>>error: can't find file: >>`/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/type1//PFAPFAemmentaler-26.pfa.pfa'>>>This file name is bogus.  I thought this was fixed, possibly>windows-only and not for Cygwin.  Han-Wen?Sorry, can't recall the details anymore. It's also strange that .pfa is there twice.--Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwenLilyPond Software Design  -- Code for Music 
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Figured Bass Above Bass line

[Trent J]

I've tried and tried and tried and tried... and I still can't get the figured bass above the bass line.
 
I've tried following the example in the regression test but since there is no other staves or variables used I can't put the code together that would place the figured bass above the bass line.
 
My Code is as follows:
 
\version "2.6.0"#(set-global-staff-size 16)#(set-default-paper-size "a4")\header {  title = "Sonata I"}
\paper{hsize = 2\cmtopmargin = 2\cmbottommargin = 2\cmleftmargin =2\cmlinewidth =17\cm}
violinsolo = \new Voice {  \relative c '' {\time 4/4\key f \majorc4. f8 e f r16 f,( c' f) d8 c bes4 a r8 a'16( f)g8 c, r f16( d) e8 a, r d16( bes)c8 f, bes16( g') bes,( a) a8( g) r16 c,( g' bes)bes16( g) a8 r16 d,( a' c) c( a) bes8 r16 g( d' f~)f32 e[ g16.] f32[ a16.] g32[ bes16.] a32[ c16] \grace { d16[ c]} b8 g c c,a'16( f) g( e) f4\trill e r8 cd4. c'16( e,) f8 c f4~f8 e16( d) c8[ e] d[ g,] g'4g8 f16( e) f8 d ees2~e8 d16( c) d8 c c4( c16 a') bes,( a)bes2~ bes8 a a16[( bes32 a) e'16 g,]fis8 d g c bes4 a<< { gis8 e a a' a4( g } \\ {s2. bes,4 } >><< { g'8 f) c8_([ d32 c bes a64 g]) \grace f8 e16 d'_( c e,) f_( c') a_( f) } \\ { a4 s2. } >>d32( e16 f32) c( c'64 a f32 e64 d) \grace c8 bes8\trill[( bes32 a bes c)] bes8( a) r16 f( c' ees)e16^\markup{ \smaller \flat }( c) d8 
r16 g,( d' f) f16( d) e!8 r16 c( g' bes)bes16( a c, a') a( g c, g') g( f bes, f') f(e a, ees')e16^\markup{ \smaller \flat }( d f, d') d( c f, c') b4 a~a8 bes16( g) \grace a8 g8.\trill f16 e4 c'8 da4 g f2^\fermata \bar "||"\partial 8c'8 f8. f16 f8 f \grace g8 f16( e) f8 f16.[( g32 a16) g32 f]g16[ c, c32( b c16)] g'16.[ a32 b16 a32 g] a16[ c, \grace d8 c32( b c16)] \times 2/3 { f16[( g a-.] } \times 2/3 { a16-.[ g f] )}g16[ c, \grace d8 c32( b c16)] \times 2/3 {g'16[( a b-.]} \times 2/3 {b16-.[ a g])} \grace b8 a32 g f8. r4a,8-.([ a-.] a16.[ b32) c16 b32 a] g32 e c8. r4a'8-.([ a-.] a16.[ b32) c16 b32 a] g32 e c8. r8 c'f16.[( g32 a16) g32 f ] e16.[( f32 g16) f32 e] d16([ g,) \grace a8 g32( fis g16]) d16 g b, g'g,16([ b') \grace c8 b32( a b16)] g b d, b' g,([ g'' \grace a8 g32( fis g16)] d g b, g'g,([ b' \grace c8 b32( a b16)] g b d, b' g,,4 r}}
continuo = {  \relative c { \clef "bass" \key f \majorf8 g a bes~ bes a16 g a8 fbes8 a g c, f, f'16 g a8 f~f8 e16 d e8 d8. s16 c bes c8 besbes8 a g f c4 e'f4 fis4 g bes,c8 d e f~ f e16 d e8 cf8 e d g, c4 c'~c8 bes16( a) bes4. a16( g) a8 fg8 c, c'4. bes16( a) bes8 ga8 d, d'4. c16( bes) c8 abes2~ bes8 a16( g) a8 fisg8 f ees d cis cis cis cisc4 b8 ees d4 d'~d8 c16( b) c8 d e d e e,f8 g a bes~ bes a16 g a8 fbes8 a g c, f4 a,bes4 b c ef4 e d cb a g fb b'2 a8 bc,2 f,^\fermata \bar "||"\partial 8r8 f''4 e d8 c16 bes a8 fbes8 g e c f c a f}}
fb = \figures { s2 <2 4>8 < 6>8 s4s4 <7>8 <7>8 s2<2 5>4. <5>8 <2 5>4 s8 <5>8<2 5>4 <6>4 <4 6>8 <3 5>8 <6>8 <5>8<9>8 <8>8 <6>8 <5>8 <9>8 <8>8 <6>8 <5>8<9>16 <8>16 <9>16 <8>16 <9>16 <8>16 <9>16 <8>16 <2 4!>8 <6>4.s4  <7>8 <_! 7>8 s2<2 4>4 <3>8 <4 6>8 <2 5>8 s8 <6>4<7>4 <3>4 <2 5>4 <6>4<7>4 <3>4 <2- 4>4 <_- 6>4<4>4 <3>4 <2 4->4 <6+>4<9>4 <5>4 <7>8 <6>8 s8 <5 6>8<2 4->4 <6>8 <6>8 <4 6>4 <3- 5>4<2 4- 6! >2 <4 6>4 <3 5->4<9>8 
<7>8 <6>8 <6>8 <2 4>8 <6>8 s4s4 <7>8 <7>8 s4 <6>8 <5->8<9>8 <8>8 <6>8 <5>8 <9>8 <8>8 <6>8 <5>8<9>8 <8>8 <6>4 <6>4 <6>4<5>4 <6>4 <6>4 s4<7>4 <6>4 <2 4>4 <6>4<4 6>4 <3 5>4 s2}
\score { \new StaffGroup << \new Staff << \violinsolo>> \new Staff << \fb \context Voice { \continuo }    >>    >>\layout {  }
}
 
I think it's in the score section but not to sure. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Cheers
 
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Re: Figured Bass Above Bass line

[Trent J]

Thanx Mats,
I'll give it a try tonight. Yes the description for the figured bass is a bit cryptic where the manual and regression test seem to differ. Also the examples give tend only to involve a direct score generation with no 'instrument' variables as you would normally generate so knowing what to put where is sometimes difficult.
I tend to generate templates from previous scores so once I get this score working I'll use this as a basis for instrumental scores with a figured bass. I only have to add instruments as needed the rest of the setup is there. Maybe there could be a facility where people could share templates etc it might make grasping the technicalities of lilypond a little easier if people could start by entering music instead of figuring out the coding a score.
Trent
From: Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Trent J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org, bug-lilypond Subject: Re: Figured Bass Above Bass lineDate: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:18:24 +0200First of all, I note that you are using a feature that is not mentionedin the manual, namely \figures, which turns out to be shorthand for\new FiguredBass \figuremode(The only documentation of this feature can be found inhttp://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/topdocs/out-www/NEWS.htmlbut it is also used in the figured-bass.ly Regression Test example)Anyway, the problem with your code is that the FiguredBass contextcannot be included within a Staff context (but it can of course beincluded in a StaffGroup). So, it should help to move it outside theStaff context:\score 
{  \new StaffGroup <<\new Staff{ \violinsolo }\fb\new Staff { \continuo }   >>\layout {  }} /MatsTrent J wrote:>I've tried and tried and tried and tried... and I still can't get >the figured bass above the bass line.>  I've tried following the example in the regression test but since >there is no other staves or variables used I can't put the code >together that would place the figured bass above the bass line.>  My Code is as follows:>  \version "2.6.0">#(set-global-staff-size 16)>#(set-default-paper-size "a4")>\header {>   title = "Sonata I">}>\paper{>hsize = 
2\cm>topmargin = 2\cm>bottommargin = 2\cm>leftmargin =2\cm>linewidth =17\cm>}>violinsolo = \new Voice {  \relative c '' {>\time 4/4>\key f \major>c4. f8 e f r16 f,( c' f)>d8 c bes4 a r8 a'16( f)>g8 c, r f16( d) e8 a, r d16( bes)>c8 f, bes16( g') bes,( a) a8( g) r16 c,( g' bes)>bes16( g) a8 r16 d,( a' c) c( a) bes8 r16 g( d' f~)>f32 e[ g16.] f32[ a16.] g32[ bes16.] a32[ c16] \grace { d16[ c]} b8 >g c c,>a'16( f) g( e) f4\trill e r8 c>d4. c'16( e,) f8 c f4~>f8 e16( d) c8[ e] d[ g,] g'4>g8 f16( e) f8 d ees2~>e8 d16( c) d8 c c4( c16 a') bes,( a)>bes2~ bes8 a a16[( bes32 a) e'16 g,]>fis8 d g c bes4 a><< { gis8 e a a' a4( g } \\ {s2. bes,4 } >>><< { g'8 f) c8_([ d32 c bes a64 g]) \grace f8 e16 d'_( c 
e,) f_( c') >a_( f) } \\ { a4 s2. } >>>d32( e16 f32) c( c'64 a f32 e64 d) \grace c8 bes8\trill[( bes32 a >bes c)] bes8( a) r16 f( c' ees)>e16^\markup{ \smaller \flat }( c) d8 r16 g,( d' f) f16( d) e!8 r16 >c( g' bes)>bes16( a c, a') a( g c, g') g( f bes, f') f(e a, ees')>e16^\markup{ \smaller \flat }( d f, d') d( c f, c') b4 a~>a8 bes16( g) \grace a8 g8.\trill f16 e4 c'8 d>a4 g f2^\fermata \bar "||">\partial 8>c'8 f8. f16 f8 f \grace g8 f16( e) f8 f16.[( g32 a16) g32 f]>g16[ c, c32( b c16)] g'16.[ a32 b16 a32 g] a16[ c, \grace d8 c32( b >c16)] \times 2/3 { f16[( g a-.] } \times 2/3 { a16-.[ g f] )}>g16[ c, \grace d8 c32( b c16)] \times 2/3 {g'16[( a b-.]} \times 2/3 >{b16-.[ a g])} \grace b8 a32 g f8. r4>a,8-.([ a-.] a16.[ b32) c16 b32 a] g32 e c8. r4>a'8-.([ a-.] 
a16.[ b32) c16 b32 a] g32 e c8. r8 c'>f16.[( g32 a16) g32 f ] e16.[( f32 g16) f32 e] d16([ g,) \grace a8 >g32( fis g16]) d16 g b, g'>g,16([ b') \grace c8 b32( a b16)] g b d, b' g,([ g'' \grace a8 g32( >fis g16)] d g b, g'>g,([ b' \grace c8 b32( a b16)] g b d, b' g,,4 r>}}>>continuo = {  \relative c {>  \clef "bass">  \key f \major>f8 g a bes~ bes a16 g a8 f>bes8 a g c, f, f'16 g a8 f~>f8 e16 d e8 d8. s16 c bes c8 bes>bes8 a g f c4 e'>f4 fis4 g bes,>c8 d e f~ f e16 d e8 c>f8 e d g, c4 c'~>c8 bes16( a) bes4. a16( g) a8 f>g8 c, c'4. bes16( a) bes8 g>a8 d, d'4. c16( bes) c8 a>bes2~ bes8 a16( g) a8 fis>g8 f ees d cis cis cis cis>c4 b8 ees d4 d'~>d8 c16( b) c8 d e d e e,>f8 g a bes~ bes a16 g 
a8 f>bes8 a g c, f4 a,>bes4 b c e>f4 e d c>b 

Re: Figured Bass Above Bass line

[Trent J]

Thanks Laura,
I've been to the muptopia site, but unfortunately it's a matter of finding a score typeset with the current version your working on. Convert-ly does some of the job but then there some manual recoding that needs to be done, which can prove just as scarey as starting with a blank file. (I must admit it was a steep learning curve installing python and using the python scripts in the 2.6 windows version). 
I suppose the template site would become a bit of a white elephant having to continully reformat code for each version of lilypond as it evolves. I guess that's why the examples in the manual and regression test are usually on the simple side.
Meanwhile I haven't seen much music typeset and published via lilypond.The most comprehensive example I have seen is Handel's - Guilo Cesare... but unfortunately the code is so old that it doesn't help with producing scores with current versions of lilypond.We are lucky that there are such people who are readily able to help those of us who can into trouble every now and again.
Thanks again to all..
TrentFrom: Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Trent J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Re: Figured Bass Above Bass lineDate: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:29:13 -0400>>>>> "TJ" == Trent J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TJ>Maybe there could be a facility where people could share TJ>templates etc it might make grasping the technicalities of TJ>lilypond a little easier if people could start by entering TJ>music instead of figuring out the coding a score.Quite a lot of us who write lilypond do post our input files on theweb.  There 
used to be a page on the lilypond website which pointed tosome of them.  And there's the mutopia project, which also isn'teasy to find from the website.I think my best figured bass attempt is at.  Unfortunately, it's lilypond1.6, so it might not be much direct use to you.  I haven't been doingmuch baroque stuff lately.--Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ )(617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139



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RE: Windows command prompt and lilypond 2.6 native windows

[Trent J]

Yes I had the same problems with native lilypond but there are some work arounds.
Setting path to lilypond.exe doesn't work as there are some problems later with missing files that are there.
The way I use jEdit with Lilypond is to load the file into jEdit. I press the make lilypond file icon. It has a fit because it can't find bash (even if you have the native mode clicked). This leaves the console window open from wich you can type:
"C:\Lilypond\usr\bin\Lillypond" "C:\Scores\01Son.ly"
You need the quote marks the first is a direct path to where your lilypond.exe is installed and the next quoted item is the direct path of the file name. You don't have to retype this everytime you wish to make the pdf just use the arrow up and it will remember your list command (similar to dos)
TrentFrom: Art Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Windows command prompt and lilypond 2.6 native windows Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:40:01 -0700Typing lilypond at the Windows command prompt produces no result.  Whereas, from the Cygwin console I get the default sample .ly file.I can compile a .ly file from Cygwin but not from the Windows prompt.  Why?It seems the only way I can send a .ly file to the Windows install is by dragging the file icon to the Lilypond icon on the desktop.  That's really painfully awkward!I really like jEdit,  because it's cultivated for Lilypond and Python, but I have to have Bash there just to run it anyway.  It can be pointed to the Windows install, of course. But I was much happier with the overall way things worked 
when Lilypond was installed in Cygwin.  I'd love to have Linux up on this machine, but don't have that option.--No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 2005/07/18___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user



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Re: Windows command prompt and lilypond 2.6 native windows

[Trent J]

<>.
Yes there is, hopefully the kinks will be worked out but there are work arounds in the meantime. Although I find the processing to be slow so that bar by bar entry takes up too much time. Haven't been able to get the linux version of lilypond working (some libc++ library is missing... and I'm not brave enough to compile the thing myself...) to compare the speeds of the version.
Point and Click is still a no go with jEdit but it's fairly simple to have line numbers displayed in jEdit and all you have to do is hover the mouse of over the note in the PDF to find the line number where that note is on.
I've also noted that the windows version of Lilypond has problems with spaces in names of folders and files. So I install in C:\Lilypond directory and not the program files. I was able to get point and click working with VIM but again you needed to install Vim in a directory with no spaces e.g. C:\Vim\
I am still wondering whether the 'native' version of Lilypond should only be aimed at beginners to it's simple drag and drop interface (although to get the conversion programs with python is a steep learning curve) and the windows cgywin for advanced users offering all the bells and whistles. If I could get the linux version up and running I would use it. But might have to wait for a new version for that to happen. But in the meantime windows and native does work .. there's just a bit of coercion needed.
 
Trent
From: Art Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Trent J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Re: Windows command prompt and lilypond 2.6 native windowsDate: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:57:06 -0700Apparently there's a still a strong relationship to Bash here.  This thing certainly isn't Windows friendly.Trent J wrote:>Yes I had the same problems with native lilypond but there are some >work arounds.>>Setting path to lilypond.exe doesn't work as there are some problems >later with missing files that are there.>>The way I use jEdit with Lilypond is to load the file into jEdit. I >press the make lilypond file icon. It has a fit because it can't >find bash (even if you have the native mode clicked). This leaves >the console window open from wich you can 
type:>>"C:\Lilypond\usr\bin\Lillypond" "C:\Scores\01Son.ly">>You need the quote marks the first is a direct path to where your >lilypond.exe is installed and the next quoted item is the direct >path of the file name. You don't have to retype this everytime you >wish to make the pdf just use the arrow up and it will remember your >list command (similar to dos)>>Trent>>>>>From: Art Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: lilypond-user@gnu.org>Subject: Windows command prompt and lilypond 2.6 native windows>Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:40:01 -0700>>Typing lilypond at the Windows command prompt produces no result.  >Whereas, from the Cygwin console I get the default sample .ly file.>I can compile a .ly file from Cygwin but not from the 
Windows >prompt.  Why?>>It seems the only way I can send a .ly file to the Windows install >is by dragging the file icon to the Lilypond icon on the desktop.  >That's really painfully awkward!>>I really like jEdit,  because it's cultivated for Lilypond and >Python, but I have to have Bash there just to run it anyway.  It can >be pointed to the Windows install, of course. But I was much happier >with the overall way things worked when Lilypond was installed in >Cygwin.  I'd love to have Linux up on this machine, but don't have >that option.>>>>>-->No virus found in this outgoing message.>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.>Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 
>2005/07/18>>>>___>lilypond-user mailing list>lilypond-user@gnu.org>http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.>Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/52 - Release Date: >2005/07/19>>--No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/52 - Release Date: 2005/07/19



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Ancient Time Signatures.

[Trent J]

Hi All..
Just a quick question with ancient time signatures. Looking a works by Frescobaldi and Monteverdi they use the old proportional time scheme. They use a mixture of ancient clefs and numbers .. e.g.  O3 but there is no time signature setting for this so I guess this needs to be created with a markup... how would I go about this. To hide the time signature eg 3/1 use the ancient time signature 03. 
Would this also generate a curteousy time singnature if the change began in the beginning of a new line or page like the normal time signatures?
Any help appreciated.
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PDF Viewing / Updating a score

[Trent J]

Hello everyone,
 
Firstly the required out the way:
 
Platform: Windows XP
Lilypond Version: 2.7.8
 

 
I have been using the new version(s) of Lilypond for a while and I find the us of PDF file a little annoying especially when fine tuning a score. You have to remember to close out of the current document before you run lilypond as the current scheme is to delete the old pdf and make the new one. So if you fail to close the score your viewing in the PDF viewer before you compile you receive an error message which means going through the sequence again remembering this time to close the document in the pdf viewer.
 
While this is only a minor quible it becomes more noticeable when editing a large score i.e. across many pages. To make a simple adjustment say the padding of slur or dynamic this becomes frustrating as you need to close down the pdf file, make the adjustment and then manually load newly generated pdf back into the pdf viewer and then try and find the page and staff to where you made the adjustment. This can be very annoying and slow down the work rate especially when you are making guesses to padding / layout / making lyric corrections etc.
 
I know in the older versions of lilypond a dvi viewer could be used as a fast an easy way to make changes. Since the newer versions only produce a .ps file and .pdf file this it out of the question. I tried using 'gsview' with the .ps file but gsview complains that there too many errors and won't display the music. I use gsview all the time especially when entering music with PMX/Musixtex and can have the .ps loaded all the time and when I update the score it refreshes the screen with the changes made while retaining the same view of the same page I was working on. This makes fine tuning scores much simplier and time efficient.
 
Is there a way to use the .ps file with gsview I know I won't be able to use point and click but since I usually number all the bars in a score I don't see this as problem and if things get a little tricky I can always go back to the pdf score to find the offending line. I don't use point and click as it is but simply use the pointer to give me the line number to go back to file to find.
 
Any hints / help appreciated.
 
Regards,
 
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Re: PDF Viewing / Updating a score

[Trent J]

Hi Bertalan,
Thanks for your reply. 
Using the PDF file is not possible for updating since Lilypond deletes the old PDF before writing the new one which means closing the pdf before running lilypond. So viewing the postscript file is the way to go. As I said before gsview for some reason is unable to display lilypond .ps files and as far as I can see is really the only postscript viewer for windows.
VSD replied earlier saying there was a view postscript command in lily4jedit which I use with lilypond. He said that this is doesn't work with the latest lily4jedit version (0.2.8-6) which I'm also using... with windows native version 2.7 of lilypond.
Regards,
Trent




From:  Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  VSD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC:  Trent J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject:  Re: PDF Viewing / Updating a scoreDate:  Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:47:15 +0200Regarding PDF viewing, I'm trying to embed multivalent (www.sourceforge.net/projects/multivalent) into lily4jedit, but its developer just don't release his latest version, which I would need. Perhaps you should write some feature request or into the general discussion forums, to make him release.Another possible solution is to use gsview (GhostScript viewer) to view the PDF (setting it as the external PDF viewer in lily4jedit). However, I don't know how to configure it to use point-and-click. (It would be very-very good if someone gave 
a  hint.)>Unfortunately this seems to be broken in the last lily4jedit version >  (0.2.8-6), at least with lily 2.7.X windows native, because it >seems to  mix cygwin paths (using "/" and prefixed with >"/cygdrive/") in the call to  the ghostscript which comes with >lilypond.Please make a bug tracker at www.sourceforge.net/projects/lily4jeditBert



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Re: PDF Viewing / Updating a score

[Trent J]

Hi Bertalan
It does.. I've tried using gsview to view the pdf which works.. but when lilypond is run again to update the score ... lilypond stops with a permission error which indicates that the pdf file is being deleted before the new one is created.
Trent




From:  Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  Trent J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject:  Re: PDF Viewing / Updating a scoreDate:  Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:19:00 +0200>Using the PDF file is not possible for updating since Lilypond >deletes the old PDF before writing the new one which means closing >the pdf before running lilypond.>I thought that in GhostScript that doesn't matter.Bert



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Re: Ghostscript/GSview problems

[Trent J]

Had the same problem here...
I sent an email to lilypond-devel about this so did Mats Bengtsson. I think this is a gsview problem not a lilypond problem as the .ps file is readable in another PS viewer program... a commercial one.. can't remember it's exact name but the program was unable to watch a file and update when changes were made... so no different than viewing via PDF.
I checked via ghostscipt program and was able to make a pdf version of the postscript file via ps2pdf so ghostscript (not the viewer) is able to use the file.
My guess is that gsview many have problems with the certain tags in the file etc. I'm awaiting a response to my question on lilypond-devel as to whether to contact the makers of gsview.. just in case it is a lilypond problem...
Trent




From:  Ray Brohinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  Ray Brohinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject:  Re: Ghostscript/GSview problemsDate:  Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:54:01 -0400
Worth noting: I had the problem with 2.6.3 stable, so I downloaded the
most recent experimental, and had the same problem. That's when I went
looking for other versions of gsview. When I say native windows, I mean
using the pango library, not using cygwin.

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No Dynamics in Midi

[J L]

Hi,

I was wondering how I might go about making dynamic markings 
(dyanmic-scripts, crescendi + decrescendi) to not have an impact on midi 
output. Of course I could just have duplicate sets of data, one set with 
dynamics, one set without.


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FiguredBass - Thank You.

[Trent J]

Hello All,
I'd like to thank Han-Wen for his work in implementing the new figured bass scheme in Lilypond. There was a lot of hard work put into this which has resulted in an easy way in which figuredbass numbers and extender lines can be added and formatted.
I would encourage anyone who uses starts using the FiguredBass system or updates their scores to use the system to consider making a donation to further the development of Lilypond.
Thanks again
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breakbefore / StaffGroup / Opus Marking -- Not working is it a bug? (2.7.12)

[Trent J]

Hi All,
 
I don't know whether these are bugs or not so I've sent it here first.
 
The breakbefore = ##t command doesn't seem to work when I put it in a header to force a page break.. for that matter... if I put "pagebreakbefore"... "gobblygoppagebreakbefore" (yes I put that line as I was so frustrated) Lilypond doesn't even seem to register that the last two words are a mistake. Is the program ignoring what is in the header?
 
Also with the first header with titles and composer and opus. The titles composer and opus are printed correctly on the first page but for some reason the opus is printed on each subsequent new score for no apparent reason.
 
Lastly the StaffGroup function seems only to work with the first group it comes across now. In scores processed from previous versions my staff groups print fine with the bracket around each group. But for some reason only the first staff group defined in a score prints with a bracket.
 
I'm using Windows XP / Lilypond 2.7.12 (Native)
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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Lilypond 2.7.15 <----- Any news on a release for windows?

[Trent J]

Hi all,
 
Is there any news on when 2.7.15 will be released for windows... we seem to be 3 versions behind the rest at the moment..
 
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Text-Interface Bug?

[J L]

Hi,

I'm not sure whether this is a bug or not. After trying to add text spanners 
and fermatas to a piece, LilyPond crashes, saying that the assertion in 
text-interfaces.cc on line 61 failed. I've attached the offending files and 
also the lilypond logs of that.


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%{
	Rock compo originally by Mark.	
	Music Notes
%}

\version "2.6.0"

% useful bits
rallSpan = \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'("rall " . "")	
accelSpan = \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'("accel " . "")



% piano part

pianoRH = {
	\clef treble
	\time 3/4
	
	4  4  4 |
	4 4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4 4  4 |
	
	4  4  4 |
	4 4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4 4  4 |
	

	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	2.\fermata
	\bar "||"
	
	4  4  r4 |
	4   r4 |
	4  4  r4 |
	2. |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	\rallSpan 2.\startTextSpan |
	2. \stopTextSpan |
	
	2. |
	2. |
	R2.*3
	4  4  r4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	R2. |
	\rallSpan 4\startTextSpan  4  4 \stopTextSpan |
	
	4  4  4 |
	4 4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4 4  4 |
	
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	2. | 2. | 2. |
	4-. \times 2/3 {8-. 8-. 8-.} 4-. | % this bar is weak
	\bar "|."
}

pianoLH = {
	\time 3/4
	\clef bass
	%\key c \major	
	
	g,,4  4  g,4 |
	d,4  4  4 |
	g,,4  4  g,4 |
	d,4  4  4 |
	
	g,,4  4  g,4 |
	d,4  4  4 |
	g,,4  4  4 |
	R2.*5
	R2.\fermata
	\bar "||"
	
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	4  4  4 |
	\rallSpan 2.\startTextSpan | 2. \stopTextSpan |
	
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	4  r4  4 |
	2  r4 |
	
	2 r4 |
	2 r4 |
	2 r4 |
	2 r4 |
	\rallSpan 2\startTextSpan r4 \stopTextSpan |
	
	g,,4  4  g,4 |
	d,4  4  4 |
	g,,4  4  4 |
	R2.*5
	2. | 2. | 
	2. | 
	4-. \times 2/3 {8-.  8-.  8-.} 4-. | % this bar is weak
	\bar "|."
}

% violin part
violinMel = {
	\time 3/4
	\clef treble
	
	R2.*2
	\set Staff.midiInstrument = "pizzicato strings"
	d''4-.^\markup{\smaller{pizz.}} g''4-. b''4-. |
	a''4-. fis''4-. d''4-. |
	
	%d''4-. g''4-. b''4-. |
	%a''4-. fis''4-. d''4-. |
	d''4-. g''4-. b''4-. |
	a''4-. fis''4-. d''4-. |
	
	r4 r4 g''4-. |
	f''4-. d''4-. bes'4-. |
	r4 r4 g''4-. |
	f''4-. d''4-. d''4-. |
	fis'2-.\fermata r4 \bar "||"
	
	\set Staff.midiInstrument = "violin"
	d''2^\markup{\smaller{arco}} d''4 |
	cis''4 cis''2 |
	b'4 c''4 g'4 |
	b'4 b'2 |
	cis''4 cis''4 cis''4 |
	d''2 e''4 |
	\rallSpan fis''4.\startTextSpan e''8 (d''8 cis''8 |
	b'2) r4 \stopTextSpan |
	
	\set Staff.midiInstrument = "pizzicato strings"
	fis'4-.^\markup{\smaller{pizz.}} fis'4-. fis'8-. fis'8-. |
	fis'4-. a'4-. g'4-. |
	fis'4-. d'4-. fis'4-. |
	e'4-. fis'4-. g'4-. |
	fis'4-. fis'4-. r4 |
	b'4-. b'4-. r4 |
	gis'2-. r4 |
	
	\set Staff.midiInstrument = "violin"
	fis''4^\markup{\smaller{arco}} g''4 a''4 |
	g''4 g''4 r4 |
	gis''4 gis''4 r4 |
	a''4 a''4 r4 |
	\rallSpan fis''4\startTextSpan (e''4 d''4) \stopTextSpan |
	
	d''4 g''4 b''4 |
	a''4 fis''4 d''4 |
	d''4 g''4 b''4 |
	a''4 fis''4 d''4 |
	
	r4 r4 g''4 |
	f''4 d''4 bes'4 |
	r4 r4 g''4 |
	f''4 d''4 d''4 |
	c''2. | d''2 b'4 | c''2. | 
	g''4-.  \times 2/3 {g''8 g''8 g''8} c'''4-.
	\bar "|."
	
	
}

% soprano part

sopranoMel = {
	\time 3/4
	\clef treble
	\set Staff.midiInstrument = "synth voice"
	
	R2.*4
	d'4 g'4 b'4 |
	a'4 fis'4 r4 |
	d'4 g'4 b'4 |
	a'4 fis'4 r4 |
	
	r4 r4 ees''4 |
	d''4 bes'4 f'4 |
	r4 r4 ees''4 |
	d''4 bes'4 bes'4 |
	d''2.\fermata  \bar "||"
	
	g'4 g'4 g'4 |
	fis'4 fis'2 |
	e'4 e'4 e'4 |
	d'4 d'2 |
	ees'4 ees'4 ees'4 |
	e'!2 e'4 |
	\rallSpan cis'2.\startTextSpan ( | d'2) r4 \stopTextSpan |
	
	b'4 b'4 b'8 b'8 |
	b'4 d''4 c''4 |
	b'4 r4 b'4 |
	a'4 b'4 c''4 |
	b'4 b'4 b'4 |
	e''4 b'4 gis'4 |
	b'2. |
	
	b'4 c''4 d''4 |
	c''4 c''4 r4 |
	cis''4 cis''4 r4 |
	d''4 d''4 r4 |
	\rallSpan fis'4\startTextSpan (g'4 a'4) \stopTextSpan |
	
	d'4 g'4 b'4 |
	a'4 fis'4 r4  |
	d'4 g'4 b'4 |
	a'4 fis'4 r4 |
	
	r4 r4 ees''4 |
	d''4 bes'4 f'4 |
	r4 r4 ees''4 |
	d''4 bes'4 bes'4 |
	g'2. | g'2 a'4 | b'2. | 
	R2. \bar "|."
}

sopranoLyrics = \lyricmode {
	Bar -- be -- ques  bur -- ning
	skanks are all flir -- ting
		hair blow in the
		nor wes -- ter -- ly.
	OH!
	
	Pav -- lo -- va  coo -- king,
	pi -- geons are poo -- ping
	when will the mad -- ness 
	end? __ 
	
	Wal -- king  on  the  san -- dy  beach,
	whoops.. I dropped my peach,
	what will I eat for tea now...
	
	I am so hun -- gry,
	hun -- gry, 
	hun -- gry.
	Ah __
	
	Bar -- be -- ques  bur -- ning,
	skanks are all flir -- ting,
		hair blow in the
		nor wes -- ter -- ly,
	nor -- wes -- ter -- ly.
}

% alto

altoMel = {
	\time 3/4
	\clef treble
	\set Staff.midiInstrument = "synth voice"

	R2.*4
	d'4 g'4 b'4 |
	a'4 fis'4 r4 |
	d'4 g'4 b'4 |
	a'4 fis'4 r4 |
	
	ees'4 g'4 bes'4 |
	bes'4 f'4 d'4 |
	ees'4 g'4 bes'4 |
	bes'4 f'4 f'4 |
	a'2.\fermata \bar "||"
	
	b'4 b'4 b'4 |
	a'4 a'2 |
	g'4 c''4 e'4 |
	g'4 g'2 |
	a'4 a'4 a'4 |
	b'2 b'4 |
	\rallSpan a'2.\startTextSpan (| d'2) r4 \stopTextSpan |
	
	b4 b4 b8 b8 |
	b4 d'4 c'4 |
	b4 r4 b4 |
	a4 b4

Re: Slurs around tuplets / tuplets inside staff - Could this be asponsored feature??

[Trent J]

Hi David,
Just in reply to your statement 
>>> This used to be popular but it is a bad idea because you can't tell>>> whether there is really supposed to be any slurring or not.
I realise this but I typeset baroque and classical scores where a slur is often placed around the tuplet number. As for trying to figure out whether it is a 'slur' or 'a group' I leave this to the performer(s) since I'm trying to make the score as faithful to the original edition as possible -- an urtext. The feature which I've sponsored isn't a mandatory feature but simply one that users can switch on or off when editing baroque and classical works or any other works for that matter.
Regards,
Trent Johnston




From:  David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:  lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject:  Re: Slurs around tuplets / tuplets inside staff - Could this be asponsored feature??Date:  Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:50:36 -0500On Saturday 17 December 2005 04:54 am, Trent Johnston wrote:> Good evening all,>> I suppose this email is directed at  Han-Wen since I am looking apossibly sponsoring a new feature.>> I was wondering whether slurs could be made to encase tuplet numbers.i.e. the slur would go over the number and not through the number as itdoes now...This used to be popular but it is a bad idea because you can't tellwhether there is really supposed to be any slurring or not.See 
the triplets in my "Alegrias for Rose" on my site, for a betterthan standard triplet bracket.  It's been in use in the Philippinesfor some decades.> Could the tuplet number be allowed within the staff. The tupletnumber would be put just above the noteheads or beam wherever they arein the staff.That's where they are supposed to be, close.  You have found an uglyugly ugly bug.  daveA--Free download of technical exercises worth a lifetime of practice:"Dynamic Guitar Technique": http://www.openguitar.com/instruction.htmlemail: "David Raleigh Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>(Full name in address field is needed to pass filter)___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user



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LilyPond 2.7.32 File Sizes

[J L]

Hi,

I think that it has been mentioned several times before that the current 
LilyPond CVS versions produce PDF's with large file sizes. The culprit is 
the embedding of some fonts roughly 20 to 30 times (or once for each 
character that uses that font?). However, LilyPond's own Feta font doesn't 
seem to be one of these. Pango problems???


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Re: Putting Lyrics between barlines / Lyrics and \appogiatura

[Trent J]

Thanks again Thies. I think I replied both to you and the group on this.
My main reason for getting the lyrics between the barlines was that they often hung outside the bar on the right hand side of the page. Even more so if there was an extender line with the lyric.
I tried the newly documented
\override Score.PaperColumn #'keep-inside-line = ##t
but the change was very minimal. On reading the manual again I noticed that this is only a help with placing objects "within the margins". So I assume that there is some white space around the left and right side of a music stave.
Regards,
Trent
 




From:  Thies Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject:  Re: Putting Lyrics between barlines / Lyrics and \appogiaturaDate:  Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:09:27 +0100Hi everyone!(@Trent: You already received this eMail, but it was rejected by the list.)>But what I have found is that tiny fragments of bar-lines>appear under the lyrics. How can I get rid of these?Using\context Lyrics = "lmelodySop" \lyricmode {   \lyricsto "melodySop" \override BarLine #'bar-size = #0 \verse}in the score section works.I don't know whether this is supposed to be a bug or not. But I also wouldn't have expected any bar lines in lyric context when adding a 
Bar_engraver.On the other side: I wouldn't mind lyrics crossing bar lines (and hence not add any Bar_engraver) as long as there are no visible bar lines (like when using a StaffGroup).For being a bug or not once more: I found the following for the definition of context Lyrics within engraver_init.ly (so there might be a reason for bar line relics):   %% make sure that barlines aren't collapsed, when   %% Bar_engraver is there.   \override BarLine #'bar-size = #0.1Kind regards,Thies Albrecht___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user



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What's up with this list

[J L]

Hi,

Yesterday (Feb 28) there was hardly anything coming through, and today (Mar 
1)  I got a the same message several times. What's going on? Buggy 
mailing-list software, rouge hackers, etc...

Earlier this week, many messages had been arriving in ad-havok fasion.

Same thing with the lilypond-devel list.

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Sponsorship - Better Incipits / Ossai Staves.

[Trent J]

Hi All,

This email is mainly directed at Han-Wen but if others have ideas and 
suggestions then please don't hesitate.


I'm looking to sponsor two features:

1: Better support for Incipits: looking at the current way of preparing 
incipits there isn't a way to restart the staff again e.g. to show the staff 
brackets etc to let reader know that the incipit ends and the staff 
restarts. Also there has be an incipit for the whole staff regardless of 
whether the clef or not values have changed or not. I've been trying 
examples of using markups to produce the incipit for a particular staff and 
then using manual overrides to shift it down and before the staff. As you 
can imagine this takes a lot of trial and error and can be quite time 
consuming to get one done let alone more.


2: The second feature is a better way to prepare ossia staves. I prepare a 
lot of baroque music and sometimes there a shortcuts in the notation for 
example: chords that should be played in the same way as the preceding bars. 
A fully functioning ossai stave would be beneficial.


Any thoughts and feedback appreciated.

Regards,

Trent Johnston




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RE: Strange page break

[Trent J]

Hi Robert,

I've noticed the same bug in 2.9.13 page breaks are happening in odd places. 
I have a score of 4 instruments where on the second page there is only one 
system printed and a new page is started. It's clear that more systems could 
have fitted.


I've forwarded this to bug-lilypond as well.

Trent

From: Robert Memering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Strange page break
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:58:24 +0200

Hi all,

I can't find the reason why there's a pagebreak
after the first system on page 2 of my score.
According to "annotate-spacing" there is enough space
for a second system (like on the other pages).

Could someone please have a look at the
source file below?

I'm using 2.9.14 (Linux)

Regards,
Robert Memering




\version "2.9.14"
\include "deutsch.ly"
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\paper
{
  #(set-paper-size "a4")
  indent = 30\mm
  left-margin = 2\cm
  indent = 2\cm
  line-width = 17\cm
%  after-title-space = 1.5\cm
%  head-separation = 0\cm
  bottom-margin = 1.5\cm
%  between-system-padding = #1
  ragged-bottom=##f
%  ragged-last-bottom = ##f
%  systemSeparatorMarkup = \slashSeparator
  print-page-number = ##t
  annotate-spacing = ##t
  printallheaders = ##t
}



SMVtreblenotes = {
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##t
  R1 | R1 |
  R1 | R1 |
  a1 | h2 c |
  d1 | c1 |
  d2 c4 a | e'2. d8 c |   % 10
  f2 d | e1 |
  r2 a, | h h |
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##f
  c2. b4 | a4 g4. a8 h4 |
  c2 h4 g | a c4. h8 a g |
  f e d4 a'4 a | c2. d4 | % 20
  e2. d4 | c h h2 |
  c4. e8 d4 c~ | c h8 a g2 |
  r2 a | e'2. e4 |
  d c4. h8 a4 | e' d h2 |
  g4 g d'2 | c4 h h2 |% 30
  a1 ~ | a2 d, |
  R1 | r2 r4 g |
  d' e f2~ | f4 f e2 |
  d4 c8 h a2~ | a1 |
  r4 g d' e | f4. e8 d4 c~ |  % 40
  c8 h a4 gis a~ | a8 h gis4 a c |
  h1 | a1 |
  c2 r4 g | c d e2 |
  d4 c a a | h h d2 |
  c h | a2. c4 |  % 50
  h1 | R1 |
  R1 | r2 r4 g |
  h h d2 | c h~ |
  h1 | a |
  r4 g4. a8 h4 | c2 a |   % 60
  c1 | h |
  g | R1 |
  r4 g c c | f2 f4 e~ |
  e d8 c h4 a | h d c h |
  a2 r4 a~ | a h c a |% 70
  h gis gis2
  \override StaffGroup.SpanBar #'transparent = ##f
  \bar "||"
}

SMVmeannotes = {
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##t
  R1 | R1 |
  R1 | R1 |
  R1 | R1 |
  d1 | e |
  f | g2. f8 e |  % 10
  a4. g8 f e d4 | g2 e |
  f f | g2. d4 |
  a'4. g8 f e d4 | c4. d8 e f g4 |
  f8 e d c g'2 | r4 c, e a~ |
  a8 g f4 e c | e2 f |% 20
  g1~ | g2 e~ |
  e f | g e |
  f a~ | a4 a g2 |
  f4 e8 d c2 | r4 h2 h4 |
  e2 d | e4 d8 c h2 | % 30
  r2 r4 a | d e f d |
  e2 d4 c | h a h2 |
  r4 c f d | a'2. a4 |
  a1~ | a2 f |
  e4 g4. f8 e4 | d f4. e8 c d |   % 40
  e4 c h e~ | e2 c |
  r4 g d' e | f2 d |
  c g'~ | g e |
  a,4 c4. h8 a4 | d1 |
  r4 g4. f8 e d | c1 |% 50
  r2 h | c4 c e2 |
  d4 c a a | e' c g'2 |
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##f
  fis4 e4. fis8 d4 | r4 g2. |
  g2. d4 | f2. f4 |
  g4. f8 e4 d | c h8 a c2~ |  % 60
  c1 | g' |
  r4 c,4. d8 e4 | f2 d |
  e4 g4. f8 e4 | f2 r4 c |
  e4. f8 g4 e~ | e8 d h4 c d8 e |
  f4. e8 d4 c8 d | e f g4 c,2 |   % 70
  e1
}

SMVprimusaltusnotes = {
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##t
  R1 | R1 |
  R1 | R1 |
  R1 | R1 |
  R1 | R1 |
  a1 | h2 c | % 10
  d f | e1 |
  d4 c c2 | d4 e d c8 h |
  a2 d, | r2 g |
  a h | c1 |
  a4 h c2~ | c r |% 20
  c e~ | e4 e h2 |
  a4 c4. h8 a4 | c1 |
  r4 a2 g8 f | g2 e4 c |
  f a4. g8 f4 | e g4. f8 e d |
  e2 r | r4 g d' e |  % 30
  f2 e4 d~ | d8 c c4 h a |
  c4. h8 a4 g | f2 g |
  r4 a4. g8 f4 | a2 r4 a |
  d e f2~ | f4 f c d |
  e2 d4 c~ | c8 h a2. |   % 40
  a2 h4 a | e2 r4 a |
  h h d2~ | d a |
  e'4. d8 c4 h | c g r g |
  a a c2 | h a |
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##f
  gis4 e gis2 | a4. h8 c4 a | % 50
  e'4 d4. c8 h4 | a e r g |
  a a d2 | c h~ |
  h4 g a2 | g1~ |
  g | f |
  c2. d4 | e f2 c4~ | % 60
  c e2 g4~ | g f8 e d2 |
  c2 r4 c' | d e f4. f8 |
  e4 d8 c e2 | d4 c4. h8 a4 |
  g2. c,4 | d2 e4 d |
  c2 r4 c'~ | c h a2 |
  gis1
}

SMVsecundusaltusnotes = {
  \set suggestAccidentals = ##t
  R1 | R1 |
  a1 | h2 h |
  c4. d8 c4 h8 a | gis2 a~ |
  a4 g8 fis g4 fis | e1 |
  d2 r | r g |% 10
  a h | c1 |
  f, | r2 r4 g |
  c2 d | e2. d4 |
  c4 h8 a g2 | r4 e2. |
  f2 c~ | c f |   % 20
  e1~ | e |
  r2 a | e'2. e4 |
  a,1 | c |
  a | h4 h d2 |
  c4 h4. a8 h4 | e, e' d4. c8 |   % 30
  d4 c4. h8 a4~ | a8 d, a'4. g8 f4 |
  r4 c' d e | f2 e4 d~ |
  d8 c c4 h a | c1 |
  a2. c4~ | c2 a4 f |
  c'2 r4 g | d' c f4. f8 |% 40
  

Using lilypond-windows with local ghostscript

[J L]

Hi,

I was wondering if it is possible to use lilypond on windows with a locally 
installed version of ghostscript (i.e. a more up-to-date version in another 
directory)? What files would I need to modify to get this to work?


The version of lilypond is the 2.8.x series on windows xp

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RE: Problem with \markup { \score } quitting after first measure

[Trent J]

Hi Rick,

Hi just had a look at your code and it seems that the system-count = #2 in 
the main document layout block is the problem. If your remove the 
'system-count' and replace with a \break where the system-count function was 
providing the break (end of bar 5) and re-run both bars of the ossia staff 
will display.


Trent


From: "Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Problem with \markup { \score } quitting after first measure
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:36:32 -0700 (PDT)


v2.9.17

I believe I have uncovered a bug when using the \markup { \score { ... } }
capability.  In the following example I assign a markup score of 2 measures
to a variable called "varFreeFormOssia".  Then in the main music I apply
that markup variable to a note.  I would expect 2 measures of markup score
to print, however only the first measure shows up.  To confirm that my
markup score is ok, it prints 2 measures just fine when it is run as a
stand-alone score not in markup.

This example will run as-is and demonstrates the possible "bug", I wanted
somebody to maybe confirm that this is a bug before I post it there?

thanks
Rick


%EXAMPLE BEGIN

\version "2.9.17"
\include "english.ly"

varFreeFormOssia = \markup {
   \score {
   \new Staff \with {
\remove Time_signature_engraver
\remove Clef_engraver
\remove Key_engraver
} % end ossia staff with
{
   #(set-accidental-style 'modern)
   \clef "treble"
   \key ef \major
   \time 4/4
   \relative c' {
  % ossia measure 1
  a'^\markup { \tiny \sans "dear ossia, measures two, how
come only one measure is printing you?" } b c d
  |
  % ossia measure 2
  e f g a
  |
   } % end ossia measures
} % end ossia staff music
   \layout {
ragged-right = ##t
ragged-last = ##t
ragged-bottom = ##t
ragged-last-bottom = ##t
indent = 0.0\in
   } % end ossia layout
   } % end ossia score
} % end ossia markup

% Begin main score

\score {

   \new Staff {
 #(set-accidental-style 'modern)
 \clef "treble"
 \key ef \major
 \time 4/4
 \relative c'' {
 %1
g'4. g8 g2~ |
 %2
g8 r  ef \times 2/3 { 4 f ef } |
 %3
1~ |
 %4
g8 r c, ef \times 2/3 { g4 f ef } |
 %5
1~ |
 %6
g8 r c, ef \times 2/3 { g4 f ef } |
 %7
   \once \override TextScript #'padding = #6
g2_\varFreeFormOssia gs2 |
 %8
a2 gs2 |
 %9
g2 gs2 |
 %10
a2 bf2 \bar "||"

 } % end notes

   } % end staff

   \layout {
 ragged-right = ##f
 ragged-last = ##f
 ragged-bottom = ##t
 ragged-last-bottom = ##t
 indent = 0.0\in
 system-count = #2
 \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
 \context { \Score
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
 }
 \context { \Staff
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(0 . 0)
 }
   } % end main layout

} % end main score



%EXAMPLE END


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\afterGrace - afterGraceFraction [Lilypond 2.10.0 Windows]

[Trent J]

Hello,

I'm not sure whether I'm doing this right but the manual states to change 
the fraction of an afterGrace note(s):


The fraction 3/4 can be changed by setting afterGraceFraction, ie.

afterGraceFraction = #(cons 7 8). By setting does it mean \set 
afterGraceFraction = #(cons 7 8).


I've tried this and keep running into the following message from Lilypond:

warning: can't find property type-check for `afterGraceFraction' 
(translation-type?).  perhaps a typing error?

warning: doing assignment anyway


Any help appreciated.

Trent

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Re: Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent no longer working in Windows Lilypond 2.1

[Trent J]

From: "Joe Neeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Trent Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent no longer working in Windows 
Lilypond 2.11.9??

Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:47:07 +0200

On 1/7/07, Trent Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I've been working with Lilypond 2.11.0 for a while and recently tried
2.11.9.

When running the new version the following statements are ignored

\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent = #'(0 . 10).



We no longer look at VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent when it comes to
vertically aligning systems (this is so that we can take the outline of the
system into account, not just its maximum size). You can still use
minimum-Y-extent, though.

I've been playing around with getting more even output from Lilypond same

number
of systems per page and the same space between staves.

I've even managed in a Concerto Grosso score to have a seperate different
space
between the concertino groups and ripieno groups all the way through the
piece.



Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent is probably not the best way to do this.
If you just want to have fixed distances between all the systems throughout
the piece, have a look at the
alignment-vertical-manual-setting.lyregression
test.
==

Thanks for your help. I'd had gotten good page fill and SCORE like output by 
being able to manually fix the staff distances. I might stick with the 
earlier version for now.


With the vertical-manual-setting - can this be set once for the entire 
piece? At the moment you have to set it for every system break. Setting this 
once for the entire piece or until a different setting is specified would be 
good.


Regards,

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Re: Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent no longer working in Windows Lilypond 2.1

[Trent J]

From: "Joe Neeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Trent J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent no longer working in Windows 
Lilypond 2.1

Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:05:37 +0200

On 1/9/07, Trent J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks for your help. I'd had gotten good page fill and SCORE like output
by
being able to manually fix the staff distances. I might stick with the
earlier version for now.

With the vertical-manual-setting - can this be set once for the entire
piece? At the moment you have to set it for every system break. Setting
this
once for the entire piece or until a different setting is specified would
be
good.



You can set it in the layout block:
\version "2.10.0"

\layout {
 \context {
   \Score
   \override NonMusicalPaperColumn
   #'line-break-system-details = #'((alignment-offsets . (#f #f
-30)))
 }
}

If you want to change it mid-piece, you can use \override instead of
\overrideProperty, but I think you have to do the \override one timestep
before you want it to take effect.




Thanks Joe this works perfectly. I'll have to download the lastest version 
now and play with all the new features.


Thanks for your help and the excellent features you've added to Lilypond.

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Font Troubles (Windows - 2.11.20)

[J L]

Hi,

I seem to be getting two types of problems with fonts not working:
1) inside a \lyricsto section of words, I can't seem to get digits to appear 
in the output. I'm trying to use the lyrics context to typeset roman 
numerals for chord indications under the system.


2)  trying to display the chordnames above the stave gives me ghostscript 
errors

- MSGOTHIC.ttf (or similar) not found or not able to be used?


Also, while going through the manual (online and pdf), I've noticed that 
some of the examples involving different fonts (namely small-caps vs normal) 
don't show any difference these days.


Regards,
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Ugly Phrasing Slurs

[J. Garcia]

Hello all!

I've had some trouble with phrasing slurs involving
staff changes through line breaks.  On the first line,
the slur is normally shaped, but the next is strangely
sloped and far from the staff.  Any suggestions? I've
tried messing with slope-limit, height-limit, and
beautiful properties to no avail.

I'm sorry, I couldn't simplify the input file beyond
this.

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RE: Ugly Phrasing Slurs

[J. Garcia]

I seem to have found the error - the slur went from
one context to another.  Fixed now!
- J. Garcia
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Removing MIDI Dynamics

[J. Garcia]

Is there now any way to remove all dynamics from a
MIDI file? The
  \translator { \remove "Dynamic_performer" }
trick doesn't seem to work anymore.  I know this
question has been posted before, but didn't receive
any response.
-J. Garcia





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Help with Lilypond on Windows

[J L]

Hi,
Recently I found out about Lilypond. On the homepage there are many good 
reports from users of Lilypond. Curious, and wanting a music 
layout/typesetting/etc. program that I wouldn't have to spend in the 
hundreds or thousands to obtain, I downloaded a copy. Note: I am running a 
Windows XP computer, not Linux.

For one thing, the current installation process for Lilypond is clumsy and 
troublesome. Can't someone make a proper installer for it?

Is there a possibility that some changes be made to the interface of 
Lilypond? Although I've read how normal programming languages (i.e. C, C++) 
are not flexible enough, and don't allow users to customize how they want 
the output to be, is it possible to have bits of the program that allow it 
to load different settings? If this is possible, then hopefully the Cygwin 
environment will be dumped in favour of a totally or nearly standalone 
Windows program. Also, are there any people out there who are annoyed about 
how console windows always terminate when they are finished? This means that 
unless it writes all its display to a file, the user can't tell what 
problems might have been encountered. This is the first problem I have 
running Lilypond, as well as the fact that it doesn't seem to be able to 
produce any output (hence the complaint about the Cygwin environment). The 
scripts that are supposed to run Lilypond by default don't work at all, and 
a bit more luck is gained by directly calling Lilypond-bin.exe. Still, 
although the display lasts longer, showing stuff other than the Cygwin 
startup stuff, it terminates without any output. I've tried many different 
command-line operations to no avail.

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Help with Lilypond on Windows

[J L]

Hi,
Recently I found out about Lilypond. On the homepage there are many good 
reports from users of Lilypond. Curious, and wanting a music 
layout/typesetting/etc. program that I wouldn't have to spend in the 
hundreds or thousands to obtain, I downloaded a copy. Note: I am running a 
Windows XP computer, not Linux.

For one thing, the current installation process for Lilypond is clumsy and 
troublesome. Can't someone make a proper installer for it?

Is there a possibility that some changes be made to the interface of 
Lilypond? Although I've read how normal programming languages (i.e. C, C++) 
are not flexible enough, and don't allow users to customize how they want 
the output to be, is it possible to have bits of the program that allow it 
to load different settings? If this is possible, then hopefully the Cygwin 
environment will be dumped in favour of a totally or nearly standalone 
Windows program. Also, are there any people out there who are annoyed about 
how console windows always terminate when they are finished? This means that 
unless it writes all its display to a file, the user can't tell what 
problems might have been encountered. This is the first problem I have 
running Lilypond, as well as the fact that it doesn't seem to be able to 
produce any output (hence the complaint about the Cygwin environment). The 
scripts that are supposed to run Lilypond by default don't work at all, and 
a bit more luck is gained by directly calling Lilypond-bin.exe. Still, 
although the display lasts longer, showing stuff other than the Cygwin 
startup stuff, it terminates without any output. I've tried many different 
command-line operations to no avail.

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Help!

[J L]

Hi,
I've tried to run a Lilypond example file. It returned an error about not 
finding a font. What can I do? An error output file is included.

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Using Lilypond

[J L]

Hi,
Can someone tell me how to call the scripts? I know that there is stuff in 
the documentation about doing so, but a physical example would be better 
(such as how to basically get it to open a file and generate an output file 
with the changes). I would in particular like to know how to operate 
'midi2ly' and 'convert-ly'.

Also, how is it decided which versions are ported to Windows?
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Beats left in bar?

[J L]

Hi,
Here is a little suggestion from me to make Lilypond a bit easier to use.
Recently, while typesetting some stuff, I encountered this problem: 
bar-check failed on 1/4, etc. and spanners unbound. The reason is that I had 
given note values longer than the remaining beats in the bar. I was 
wondering whether it is possible for some extra code to be added so that 
Lilypond would divide the note up so that there would be no problem. (This 
may already exist, so please tell me what settings to use in that case)

e.g.  in 3/4, I want to insert a tied note lasting 1 minum beat on the last 
beat of the bar. Currently, this means that I have to manually write a tie. 
To save beginners trouble, this could be useful. Also when composing?

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Auto Ties

[J L]

Hi,
I remember writing about how I had trouble with entering note values longer 
than the remaining measures? in a bar. I realise that there is the 
completion_heads_engraver. However, when I tried that, what happened was: 
all the doted and syncopated notes within the bar were broken up while the 
note that was supposed to be tied over the bar was just left as a minum 
(causing a bar-check problem followed by unbound spanners).

I can't remember exactly what file I used, but I think it was this one. 
Currently it has the ties added manually. Please point out to me if there is 
is something I've missed out that is causing this problem.

---
\version "2.2.5"
\header {
 title = "May Suite 2004"
 subtitle = "Royal Progression"
 subsubtitle = "Movement 1"
 composer = "Joshua Leung"
 meter = "Allegro Maestoso"
}
\score{
\notes <<
 \context StaffGroup <<
  \new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \time 3/4
   \key c \major
   \set Staff.instrument = "Trumpet 1"
   \set Staff.instr = "Tru1"
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "trumpet"
% 1st theme & its variations
a'8. a'16 a'4  \times 2/3 { g'8 a'8 b'8 }
a'8. a'16 a'4  \times 2/3 { g'8 a'8 b'8 }
c''8. b'16 a'4  \times 2/3 { f'8 g'8 a'8 }
b'8. a'16 g'4  \times 2/3 { e'8 f'8 g'8 }
a'8. g'16 f'4  \times 2/3 { g'8 g'8 g'8 }
g'2 r4
% 2nd Idea & its variations
r2  \times 2/3 { a'8 b'8 c''8 }
d''2 \times 2/3 { d''8 e''8 d''8 }
c''2 \times 2/3 { b'8 c''8 d''8 }
a'2 \times 2/3 { g'8 a'8 b'8 }
a'2 r4
R2.*2
% back to 1st theme. we're nearly at the end
a'8. a'16 a'4  \times 2/3 { g'8 a'8 b'8 }
a'8. a'16 a'4  \times 2/3 { g'8 a'8 b'8 }
R2.*3 % the last few bars
\bar "|."
}
\new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \time 3/4
   \key c \major
   \set Staff.instrument = "Trumpet 2"
   \set Staff.instr = "Tru2"
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "trumpet"
% 1st theme & its variations
f'8. f'16 f'4  \times 2/3 { e'8 f'8 g'8 }
f'8. f'16 f'4  \times 2/3 { e'8 f'8 g'8 }
a'8. g'16 f'4  \times 2/3 { d'8 e'8 f'8 }
g'8. f'16 e'4  \times 2/3 { c'8 d'8 e'8 }
f'8. e'16 d'4  \times 2/3 { e'8 e'8 e'8 }
e'2 r4
% 2nd Idea & its variations
r4  \times 2/3 { g'8 a'8 b'8 }
c''4~ c''4 \times 2/3 { c''8 d''8 c''8 }
b'4~ b'4  \times 2/3 { a'8 b'8 c''8 }
g'4~ g'4  \times 2/3 { f'8 g'8 a'8 }
g'4 ~ g'4  r2
% 1st idea inverted
f'8. f'16 f'4  \times 2/3 { e'8 d'8 c'8 }
f'8. f'16 f'4  \times 2/3 { e'8 f'8 g'8 }
}
  \new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \time 3/4
   \key c \major
   \set Staff.instrument = "Horn 1"
   \set Staff.instr = "Hrn1"
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "french horn"
% 1st theme & its variations
d''8. d''16 d''4  \times 2/3 { c''8 d''8 e''8 }
d''8. d''16 d''4  \times 2/3 { c''8 d''8 e''8 }
f''8. e''16 d''4  \times 2/3 { b'8 c''8 d''8 }
e''8. d''16 c''4  \times 2/3 { a'8 b'8 c''8 }
d''8. c''16 b'4  \times 2/3 { c''8 c''8 c''8 }
c''2 r4
% 2nd Idea & its variations
\times 2/3 { c''8 d''8 e''8 }  f''2
\times 2/3 { f''8 g''8 f''8 }  e''2
\times 2/3 { d''8 e''8 f''8 }  c''2
\times 2/3 { b'8 c''8 d''8 }  c''2
R2.*5  % 5 bar's rest
% back to 1st theme. we're nearly at the end
d''8. d''16 d''4  \times 2/3 { c''8 d''8 e''8 }
d''8. d''16 d''4  \times 2/3 { c''8 d''8 e''8 }
R2. % the last bar
   }
\new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \time 3/4
   \key c \major
   \set Staff.instrument = "Horn 2"
   \set Staff.instr = "Hrn2"
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "french horn"
% 1st theme & its variations
d'8. d'16 d'4  \times 2/3 { c'8 d'8 e'8 }
d'8. d'16 d'4  \times 2/3 { c'8 d'8 e'8 }
f'8. e'16 d'4  \times 2/3 { b8 c'8 d'8 }
e'8. d'16 c'4  \times 2/3 { a8 b8 c'8 }
d'8. c'16 b4  \times 2/3 { c'8 c'8 c'8 }
c'2 r4
% 2nd Idea & its variations
\times 2/3 { c'8 d'8 e'8 }  f'2
\times 2/3 { f'8 g'8 f'8 }  e'2
\times 2/3 { d'8 e'8 f'8 }  c'2
\times 2/3 { b8 c'8 d'8 }  c'2
R2. % 1 bar's rest
% back to 1st theme
d'8. d'16 d'4  \times 2/3 { c'8 d'8 e'8 }
d'8. d'16 d'4  \times 2/3 { c'8 d'8 e'8 }
R2. % another bar's rest
% the end is near
r4 f''4-. r4
r2 g''4
r4 a''4 r4
b''4 c'''2
   }
\new Staff {
   \clef bass
   \time 3/4
   \key c \major
   \set Staff.instrument = "Tuba"
   \set Staff.instr = "Tub"
   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "tuba"
% 1st theme & its variations
d8. d16 d4  \times 2/3 { c8 d8 e8 }
d8. d16 d4  \times 2/3 { c8 d8 e8 }
f8. e16 d4  \times 2/3 { b,8 c8 d8 }
e8. d16 c4  \times 2/3 { a,8 b,8 c8 }
d8. c16 b,4  \times 2/3 { c8 c8 c8 }
c2 r4
% -  2nd Idea 

Polyphonic Rest Positions and partial \longa

[Trent J]

Hello,
I've just started using Lilypond after switching from Sibelius. Lilypond 
seems a lot quicker and the set out especially with lyrics is a lot better 
and easier to correct.
At the moment I have two questions...
When using spacer notes e.g.

<< { s4 f g g } // { r4 g g g } >>
the rest is always printed above it's usual position. It would be 
understandable if there was a note that the rest was trying to avoid but 
there isn't anything but a spacer note. How do I get the rest to be it's 
original position. I know I can use b4\rest (this is acceptable but very 
time consuming in polyphonic music) but the this doesn't work if there is a 
multi-bar rest eg.

\time 3/1
<< { s1*0^\markup { \italic "Alla breve"  } s\breve } \\ { R\breve. } >>
the whole bar rest prints down and if I switch the argument
<< { R\breve. } \\ { s1*0^\markup { \italic "Alla breve"  } s\breve } >>
the whole bar rest prints above it's regular position...
so how do I get the whole bar rest to print in the regular position
My second question...
Monteverdi usually ends his pieces with a longa note...
if I add the following regardless of time signature... I always get an extra 
bar printed at the end of the piece.

\partial \longa*1 e\longa
i've even tried...
\partial 1*4 e\longa
this still overruns and starts a new bar
Any help is appreciated...
Thanks again...
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Lyrics -- Left align a word / wordblock

[Trent J]

Hello...
Firstly thanks to those who helped me with my previous question.
My new question is this
Monteverdi (and several other baroque composers and modern ones) can 
sometimes put a whole string of text to be sung on the one note...

eg.
g\longa
"Donec ponam inimicos"
what I end up with is the word being centred on the note and it intrudes 
quite a lot into the previous bar causing that bar to become overly long as 
well

eg..
   |   g   |
"Donec ponam inimicos"
Is there a way that I can align these lyrics so that words are actually left 
aligned...

 | g|
 | "Donec ponam inimicos" |  etc.
so that the words actually up the space of the bar that it is in.
BTW .. I'm using Lilypond version 2.2.5 under XP Professional...
Thanks again... any help appreciated...
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Mknetrel

[J L]

Hi,
What's another link I could try to get Mknetrel with?
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Double Measures - Time Signatures.

[Trent J]

Hello
I have a few questions about doubling measures and time signatures.
I currently typesetting Monteverdi's Vespers and have run into some problems 
with Monteverdi's notation. I want to keep the original baring and time 
signatures as they reflect the phrasing and tempo's of the work (Monteverdi 
was still using proportional notation)

My question is this:
Is there a way to double or triple the length of a bars. Monteverdi will set 
a time signature of 4/4 but infact it's 8 beats to a bar and also 3/2 which 
again is more like 6/1 (6 breves or 12 semibreves to a bar.)

Is it possible to do
\time 4/4 { g4 g4 g4 g4 g4 g4 g4 g4 }* 2/1
or
\time 3/2  { g1 g1 g1 g1 g1 g1 }* 6/1 ??
The reason for this is that Monteverdi can and does move between the 8 beats 
in 4/4 time back to 4 beats and back to 8 beats often during a work.

I know I can fiddle around with hiding and using markups for time signatures 
etc this causes the excellent Layout properties of Lilypond to become 
corrupt.

Using the \cadenzaOn / Off... is also useful but this creates a lot of 
problems especially when proof-reading later and \cadenza causes all the 
accidentals to stay active...

Thanks for any assistance.
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Piano Dynamics Template

[J L]

Hi,
Recently I tried to use the piano dynamics template on version 2.2.5. 
However, two things went wrong:

1) There is a stave (with 5 lines, clef and time signatures) in between the 
two normal staves with dynamics sticking to the bottom of it. This stave is 
not supposed to appear. The piece starts in 6/8 and changes time signature 
several times.  Does it have anything to do with timesignature changes?

2) On this extra stave, the first dynamic always appears at the end of the 
bar no matter what values I try to give it.

P.s.  I didn't put any pedal markings in.
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Note Grouping

[J L]

Hi,
Can anyone point me to some online links to articles, etc.  about the rules 
for note grouping, especially rests?

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Figured Bass Questions.....

[Trent J]

Good Morning all,
I’ve been playing around with Lilypond for quite a while now. I’ve been 
evaluating it type setting quite a variety of scores – mainly baroque works 
instrumental and vocal using both ancient time signatures and notes and have 
found the output to be excellent. I've even started using Linux-Fedora (a 
big leap from windows) so I can use the latest versions of lilypond.

The only reservations that I have now is the figured bass. I have looked up 
several questions people have about this and found a variety of different 
figuring which does not seem to work well together.

My questions are these:
Proper alignment of figures eg.
   7
 #3
   2
It’s most important that the sharp on the three be on the left of the number 
and not on the right so as not to confuse a sharpened 3rd resolution after 
the current figures.

I have tried several markups which never quite able to match these figures 
(the figured bass context is too weak to provide the complexity of some 
figured bass settings)

The other question is the thin line representing a holding of the previous 
part of the figured bass. ie. Some or all of the previous chord is held.

Eg.	5	 ---
   7	 b6 the thin line (  ---  ) indicates that the 
5th note should be held while adding the flattened 6th  or

6   _
5
indicating that the previous chord is to be held…. This can be held for 
either for the next bass notes or a series of bass notes.

Does anyone have a full scheme/way of setting out a figured bass?
Any help in this matter would be appreciated. Are there any plans to 
strengthen figured bass support? I would suggest that if there was then 
lilypond would possibly be the best notation package available being able to 
typeset all music. It might even rival SCORE (the mysterious notation 
package that only ‘bigger’ music publishing firms can seem to get their 
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Re: lilypond bombs on Mandrake 10 again

[Trent J]

Hi,
I had the same problems with Mandrake as well with some others but it seems 
that the latest Mandrake version of Lilypond installs everything fine but 
the problem is that it only makes lilypond only available to the root user. 
You can double check this by going to the the lilypond directory under KDE 
or GNOME and you'll see a padlock on this.

The way to get this working is to become superuser (su) and change the 
permissions for the use of this folder.

Trent
From: Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lilypond bombs on Mandrake 10 again
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:38:02 +0200
Maybe this helps:
login as root on your computer and run the following commands:
cd /usr/lib/
ln -s libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1.so.1.0.0 libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1.so
(the mail reader may introduce line breaks, but the full command
'ln -s lib...so.1.0.0 lib...so' should be on the same line).
This will add a soft link so that the file is known also under the
name libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1.so, which seems to be what lilypond
looks for.
   /Mats
Sarah Cordish wrote:
Why can't lilypond find the files it needs?  Below is the last try.
 Sarah Cordish
The file lily.ly was written in emacs and is as follows:
\score {
   \notes {
 \time 3/4
 \clef bass
 c2 e4 g2.
 f4 e d c2 r4
   }
 }
 \score {
   \notes {
 \time 3/4
 \clef treble
 c2 e4 g2.
 f4 e d c2 r4
   }
 }
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sarah]$ ls
Desktop/  Documents/  lily.ly  tmp/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sarah]$ ls usr/lib/
ls: usr/lib/: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sarah]$ ls /usr/lib/
ao/ libkdeinit_kdesktop.so*
aspell/ libkdeinit_keditbookmarks.la*
bonobo/ libkdeinit_keditbookmarks.so*
bonobo-2.0/ libkdeinit_kfmclient.la*
bonobo-activation-server*   libkdeinit_kfmclient.so*
CDDBSlave2* libkdeinit_khelpcenter.la*
cddb-track-editor*  libkdeinit_khelpcenter.so*
cracklib_dict.hwm   libkdeinit_khotkeys.la*
cracklib_dict.pwd   libkdeinit_khotkeys.so*
cracklib_dict.pwi   libkdeinit_kicker.la*
cups/   libkdeinit_kicker.so*
dia/
libkdeinit_kio_http_cache_cleaner.la*
elfutils/   
libkdeinit_kio_http_cache_cleaner.so*
emacs/  libkdeinit_kio_uiserver.la*
games/  libkdeinit_kio_uiserver.so*
gcc-lib/libkdeinit_kjobviewer.la*
GConf/  libkdeinit_kjobviewer.so*
gconfd-2*   libkdeinit_klauncher.la*
gconf-sanity-check-2*   libkdeinit_klauncher.so*
gconv/  libkdeinit_klipper.la*
gdk-pixbuf/ libkdeinit_klipper.so*
gettext/libkdeinit_kmixctrl.la*
ghostscript/libkdeinit_kmixctrl.so*
gimp/   libkdeinit_kmix.la*
gnome_segv2*libkdeinit_kmix.so*
gnome-vfs-2.0/  libkdeinit_konqueror.la*
gnucash/libkdeinit_konqueror.so*
gnupg/  libkdeinit_konsole.la*
gphoto2/libkdeinit_konsole.so*
gphoto2_port/   libkdeinit_kprinter.la*
grcat*  libkdeinit_kprinter.so*
gstreamer-0.6/  libkdeinit_ksmserver.la*
gtk/libkdeinit_ksmserver.so*
gtk-2.0/libkdeinit_kweatherreport.la*
guppi/  libkdeinit_kweatherreport.so*
hotplug/libkdeinit_kwin.la*
ImageMagick-5.5.7/  libkdeinit_kwin.so*
ispell/ libkdeinit_kwrited.la*
java-1.3.0/ libkdeinit_kwrited.so*
java-1.3.1/ libkdeinit_kwrite.la*
java-1.4.0/ libkdeinit_kwrite.so*
java-1.4.1/ libkdeinit_kxkb.la*
java-1.4.2/ libkdeinit_kxkb.so*
java-1.5.0/ libkdenetwork.la*
java-ext/   libkdenetwork.so.2@
jvm/libkdenetwork.so.2.2.0*
jvm-exports/libkdepim.la*
jvm-private/libkdepim.so.1@
kbd/libkdepim.so.1.0.0*
kconf_update_bin/   libkdeprint.la*
kde3/   libkdeprint_management.la*
krandrinithack.la*   

Figured Bass Questions part II

[Trent J]

Good Afternoon All,
Thanks to those who have helped so far with my figured bass problems.
After reading many articles on the subject in the group... I came across the 
intriguing idea of using ‘Lyrics’ to type set the figured bass. (And is 
still at the moment nearly the only way to do so with finale2005)

Using Lyrics mode raises a couple of questions...
1.	How do I get the sharps/flats and naturals in... they’re not in the 
standard Latin encoding?

2.	Using the extender lines ie the melisma mode \melismaOn \melismaOff I 
should be able to get figured bass extender lines but the lyric extenders 
are set too low. They should be set halfway on the number. Is there any 
chance of changing the height of the extender line or would turning the 
hyphen into a continuous line be better or even possible?

3.	Left or right aligned... I’m not to sure how lyric verses are aligned 
whether they are aligned with each other or not or just with the note. Eg.   
  If was to enter #3 in the first verse and enter 5 in the second verse 
would it be under the 3? Or would left alignment be better 3# and the 5 
underneath the 3... slashes on notes etc don’t bother me as sometimes the 
figures don’t really make sense especially in French Figured Bass notation. 
A slash on a note can indicate either a raised semitone or play a 
naturalised 5th (so actually strike the note down a semitone – as a perfect 
5th from Dsharp (Eflat) A  sharp (B flat). For example in Couperin’s Les 
Nations which I’m typesetting at the moment  Couperin will indicate a 
slashed 5 over a D sharp the harmonies from the other parts make it clear 
that Couperin didn’t mean an a sharp raised semitone to B but rather down a 
semitone to a natural.

4.	How can I ensure that the verse lines are close together and not 
separated by a lot of white space?

Any help would be appreciated or any other solutions to the figured bass 
problem that people might have. From the talk in the group a lot of people 
have been setting baroque music but I have not seen any finished examples 
showing how people solved their problems.

Thanks again.
Trent

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Compiling Lilypond

[J L]

Bother!
Can someone tell me how to install separate packages for Cygwin? (i.e. 
MFTrace, and its dependancies).

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PDF only

[J L]

Hi,
I was wondering if it is possible to only build a specific part of the 
documentation (namely the User-Guide in PDF/PS).

Also, why do the "Piece" title in LilyPond output appear to the side? 
Generally, I've seen some old editions where the name of the Piece is 
printed centred and moderately large.

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Compiling Lilypond...

[J L]

Hi,
Which ec-fonts-mftraced package does Cygwin need to use?
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Tempo Mark

[J L]

Hi,
A known fact is that Lilypond 2.2.5 hides the tempo mark. So is it possible 
to place the \tempo inside the \markup thingy if I want the tempo mark 
appearing beside the directions for later versions?

i.e.
normally in 2.2.5
some music
\tempo 4 = 72
a^\markup {\large\bold {A Direction} \note #"4" #0.65 { = 72 }}
.
is this possible so that I don't have multiple tempo directions
..some music...
a^\markup {\large\bold {A Direction} \tempo 4 = 72}
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Cygwin packages

[J L]

Hi,
Can Cygwin packages be installed by hand? If so, how?
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RE: Cygwin install

[J L]

Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:56:14 +0100
From: Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilypond 2.4.2 for Cygwin Installation Error
To: Rob V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Try one of these, the first should work, the second may not
1. Install LilyPond 2.2.5 from an other mirror than mine, and after that
install LilyPond 2.4.2 from my mirror - because I don't have all the
necessary files for it
2. Select two mirrors at the same time, (using Ctrl), one of them should
be mine, the other one should be your favorite mirror. Then select
lilypond-2.4.2-1, I think the dependencies should be resolved.
Bert
So which mirror is 2.4.2 on?
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Web page documentation

[J L]

Hi,
I was just wondering how many people use the web-page version of the 
LilyPond documentation on Windows? The thing is, on Windows it is more 
convienient to use the pdf version and could mean that only this bit of the 
documentation needs to be built and distributed. However, hyperlinking the 
table of contents would be helpful (if possible)

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CSound?

[J L]

Hi,
Would any deveopers be interested to add CSound as an alternative/additional 
format to Midi?

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missfont

[J L]

Hi,
What does 'mktextfm ecrm1000' mean? This line is printed twice in the file 
missfont.log
Is there any vital LilyPond functions that depend on this font?

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No footer

[J L]

Hi,
I just noticed that in 2.4.2, there is no footer printed. Is this due to 
missing fonts, footers being removed from the code, or some other reason?

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Lilypond error when opening test.ly

[J Groombridge]

Operating system: W2K

When I click on test.ly to open it, E:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe opens a DOS
window. It says it is processing the file and then I get two "Error
(2): The system cannot find the file specified" errors. I know that you
told me not to change the default directory, but I don't have 204M
available on C: for cygwin.

The batch file creates the .dvi, .pdf, .ps and .log files. Acrobat
opens the .pdf without any problems. Should I just ignore the errors?

Thanks!
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No .preview files

[J L]

Hi,
Is there any way to edit the Python Lily-wins file to stop it from producing 
previews of LilyPond scores? I find it annoying how Lily-wins 2.4.2 creates 
all these extra files. Of course, I could copy the files I need to run 
LilyPond on to my home directory and keep them there/copy them back + forth, 
or I could just delete the unwanted files (everytime after running Lily). I 
tried having a look at the script, but couldn't decipher it.

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Accidentals

[J L]

Hi,
Is there any historical reasons why LilyPond places a natural before a 
sharp?
i.e.   going from A-flat to A-sharp.

A similar thing happened with a key signature change.
i.e.   G major to A major resulted in F-natural + F-sharp & C-sharp & 
G-sharp

It would be good if there was a way to prohibit this.
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Sibelius Importer

[J L]

Hi,
Has anyone ever tried to make an importer from Sibelius files? I have a 
feeling that I'm going to need one next year...

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Re: Accidentals

[J L]

Hi
From: Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: J L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Accidentals
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:15:39 -0700


A similar thing happened with a key signature change.
i.e.   G major to A major resulted in F-natural + F-sharp & C-sharp & 
G-sharp

It would be good if there was a way to prohibit this.
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
does that.
Maybe I didn't give a good example. By setting key cancellation to none, ALL 
key cancellations are not printed.

A major to E major in LilyPond would normally be F-natural + C-natural + 
G-natural  +  F-sharp + C-sharp + G-sharp + D-sharp. While normally, only  
F-sharp + C-sharp + G-sharp + D-sharp would be printed.

what about the other way around
E major to A major in LilyPond would normally be F-natural + C-natural + 
G-natural + D-natural  + F-sharp + C-sharp + G-sharp. Normally, just F-sharp 
+ C-sharp + G-sharp + D-natural would be printed.

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Accidentals

[J L]

Hi,
Maybe LilyPond needs a rewrite of the accidental handling, so that the 
current behaviour is made optional, and the usual way (from all the prints I 
generally use, which are about the early 1900's) the default.

The current behaviour of making a note natural before adding a sharp or flat 
in some cases, and also totally cancelling all the sharps or flats before 
adding one more or less, is quite rare. In fact, it just seems
to possibly easier to code.

By the way, telling LilyPond to use  \set Staff.printextranatural = ##f  
only 'hides' the natural. This means that LilyPond still calculates and 
allocates space for the natural, just not printing it.

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Can't use numbers

[J L]

Is it true that LilyPond doesn't like music variables with a number in the 
name? If I did:

voice1 = {  somemusic  }
and used that later, LilyPond would complain?
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Re: Can't use numbers

[J L]

Then would it be worthwhile to make a note of that in the manual?
From: Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: J L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can't use numbers
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:20:03 -0700
J L wrote:
Is it true that LilyPond doesn't like music variables with a number in the 
name? If I did:

voice1 = {  somemusic  }
and used that later, LilyPond would complain?
Yes.  Some of us use roman numerals to get around this.
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Re: Can't use numbers

[J L]

Actually, after a quick check, I've found the following line in Organizing 
Larger Pieces (2.5.10 docs)?

"The name of an identifier should have alphabetic characters only; no 
numbers, underscores or dashes. The assignment should be outside of running 
music."

Aligorith
From: Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: J L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can't use numbers
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:58:04 -0800
Yes, if it isn't already noted.  I'm not certain.
Could you look into it?  I have a lot of university work right now.  Could
you find the section in the manual where this info should be added,
and suggest a few sentences that would clarify this issue?
Cheers,
- Graham, Documentation Editor.
On 30-Jan-05, at 10:36 PM, J L wrote:
Then would it be worthwhile to make a note of that in the manual?
From: Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: J L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can't use numbers
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:20:03 -0700
J L wrote:
Is it true that LilyPond doesn't like music variables with a number in 
the name? If I did:

voice1 = {  somemusic  }
and used that later, LilyPond would complain?
Yes.  Some of us use roman numerals to get around this.
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Figured Bass Improvements

[Trent J]

Good Afternoon,
I started using lilypond a couple of months ago but soon had to abandon it 
because of its weak figured bass support. I've been following the 
developments for a while in hope that the support for figured bass would be 
strengthened. At this stage I have seen no sign of this. Is it ever going to 
be improved? The rest of the program is excellent especially for the support 
of "ancient" notation, but with the lack of figured bass support it is 
severely let down when using older notations.

Any comments / hints of further development appreciated.
Regards,
Trent

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Lilypond installation problem

[J. Grady]

I am trying to download Lilypond for windows at work (where I have DSL),
then save the 66mb download to cd as directory cygwin, then write cygwin to
my c drive at home (where I only have a 56k modem) and install it.  It says
installation is complete, but when I run the test, no output is produced.
(I was able to install it fine at work OK, though.)  I have tried two
variants of this, neither of which works.  In variant 1, I first did the
installation download at work, then installed from directory successfully &
ran the test successfully, then saved the resulting 250 mb cygwin directory
on cd. Then at home, copied the cygwin directory to my c drive and
installed.  The program installation hung at 98% complete in the post
install phase.  So I uninstall, then re-install- same thing.  So I try
Variant 2:  Next day at work, I uninstall everything  and delete the cygwin
directory.  Then make a new cywgin directory and download the installation
files to directory cygwin.  Then stop, put that 66mb cygwin directory on cd
and bring it home and install it after uninstalling the previous version and
deleting the previous cygwin directory.  Then with the 66mb installation
files copied from the cd, I run install.  Now, I get a complete
installation, but when I run the test.ly, it only flashes a black screen and
produces no output.

Do I have to download the files directly onto my computer at home using my
56k modem to get it to install correctly at home?

Thanks,

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Problem running lilypond

[J. Grady]

When I run test.ly, after apparently installing it correctly under Windows
XP, no output is produced. The first time, it flashed error messages I
couldn't read, but if I try to run it now, it just flashes a blank screen-
no output. Also, no test.log is produced.
The setup log is attached.

Help- What do I do to get Lilypond to run?

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lilypond-book

[J L]

Hi,
I think that lilypond-book could be improved so that basic commands such as 
\clef can be used, or is there some way to do this without loading seperate 
files?

Also, how should I use bits of the feta font mixed with the text? I ran into 
this problem, tried doing it with markup only to find that it seems to 
confuse lilypond-book.

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A few problems from a new user- Error invoking 'latex', Indenting lines, Placing transcription credit right after the music with the Lilypond credit

[J. Grady]

I'm a new user and have a few problems I haven't been able to solve:

I have Lilypond 2.4.2. running now, but everytime I run it, although it
produces a pdf from my input, it also gives the error shown below from the
Cygwin window:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ lilypond bjgrove
GNU LilyPond 2.4.2
Processing `bjgrove.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][10]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][10]
Interpreting music... [8][10]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][10]
Layout output to `bjgrove.tex'...
Converting to `bjgrove.dvi'...
Error invoking `latex \\nonstopmode \\input bjgrove.tex > /dev/null 2>&1 '.
Retu
rn value 256
Converting to `bjgrove.ps'...
Converting to `bjgrove.pdf'...

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$

How should I fix this?  Is it an actual problem?  I'm not sure I need Latex
since I have a pdf file.

I'm also having two other problens I can't solve:

1)  Each starting line of my two part fiddle piece is being indented. What
causes this?

2)  The transcription will appear in a magazine article, but probable won't
take up the entire page.  I want my transcription credit to appear with the
Lilypond credit right below the music, rather than at the bottom of the
page, for example:

Transcribed by Yours Truly
Engraved by Lilypond (version 2.4.2)

In trying to fix this, and based on a previous recent posting to the
usergroup, I added the line:
copyright = \markup { "Copyright \\copyright \ 1999"  to my paper setup
(planning to modify it to be my transcription credit) as follows:

\version "2.4.2"
\paper
{
#(set-paper-size "letter")
  topmargin = .5\in
  bottommargin = .75\in
  leftmargin = .625\in
  linewidth = 7.375\in
  copyright = \markup { "Copyright \\copyright \ 1999" }
  }

Adding this does not cause any errors or produce any output concerning a
copyright 1999.

Are the indent and copyright print problems related to the error invoking
latex issue above, or is it something else?  How can the credit be placed
right after the music, rather than at the bottom of the page?

Sincerely,

Jim Grady
Garner, NC





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Markup font in LilyBook

[J L]

Hi,
How can I get markup text in my Lily snippets in Lilypond Book?
Dvips complains about the missing ecrm1000? font and says that it's leaving 
those symbols blank. In the resulting file, there is no text under the stave 
where I want it. I am running Lily2.4.2 on Cygwin.

So, what is another font hovering around that I could use, and how?
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RE: install on windows 2000 existing cygwin?

[J L]

Message: 5
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:47:05 -
From: "Ruth Ivimey-Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install on windows 2000 existing cygwin?
To: "'Mats Bengtsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Christ van
Willegen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 'Dave Kenny' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lilypond-user@gnu.org
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
> > I'm not sure about this... Cygwin puts all 'executables' in /usr/bin.
> > Perhaps re-running setup, and clearing the checkmark next to Lilypond
> > would work, but I think you'd better ask the Cygwin mailing list about
> > this.
> Just rerun setup.exe and select "uninstall" for the packages
> you want to remove. Note that as soon as you select the
AFAIK, it is possible to uninstall the whole of cygwin by deleting the 
whole
tree. I am not aware of any significant registry settings to uninstall (see
note below).

Of course, if you wish to uninstall only a few of the packages, you should 
use
setup.exe as indicated by Mats.

If you just want some disk space back, you might wish to delete the stored
packages. In my install I keep them in c:\cygwin\packages\..., but you 
might
have them in c:\packages. I believe it is safe to delete the subdirectories 
of
this directory (there are a couple of files in there which I am not so sure
about).

Ruth
Note: I did find a few entries in my own registry:
- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions (with a copy in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions)
-
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\
Start Menu2\Programs\Cygwin.
None of these will cause any problems if you leave them there with no 
cygwin
installed.

I might just make a note here that just deleting the cygwin folder is not a 
good idea as there are some files that just won't allow themselves to be 
deleted manually. These are mainly files that windows thinks are invalid 
shortcuts.

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Re: Context menu

[J L]

Hi,
I've recently made a python script to do this. It is based on the lily-wins 
script, and should work ok.

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#!/bin/python
# lilytex-wins.py -- LilyPond command for .lytex on Windows
# By Joshua Leung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), based on lily-wins.py
# useful for LilyPond 2.4.2 - Recent lower versions may also work.
# To make it work with a windows right-click, add this to file-type 
associations
# for the .lytex extension. Change the cygwin directory to the correct place 
for
# your system. Also, place this in the right place.
#	C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c '/bin/lilytex-wins "%1"'

# Coded 12 April 2005.
# 	12/04/05 	- It works with files in a user's home dir. Not sure about 
other places.
#			- EDIT: it falls down when path has spaces. why, I don't know. how to 
fix, I don't know.
#			- after a short break, it works!

# importing - removed import time
import getopt
import os
import re
import sys
def usage ():
print 'Usage [-h,--help] lilytex-wins LYTEX-FILE'
def read_pipe (command):
s = os.popen (command).read ()
if s and s[-1] == '\n':
return s[:-1]
return s
def system (command):
os.system (command)
def strip_extension (f, ext):
(p, e) = os.path.splitext (f)
if e == ext:
e = ''
return p + e
def escape_shell (x):
return re.sub ("(\s|[`'\"])", r'\\\1',x)


# main
#	the code around here could do with a shake up! - but it is currently 
working.
filea = sys.argv[1]

native_file = filea
print 'Processing %s ...' % native_file
file = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -au %s' % escape_shell (native_file))
if not file:
file = native_file
cwd = os.getcwd ()
dir = os.path.dirname (file)
if not dir:
dir = '.'
base = os.path.basename (file)
# just a few changes here
if base.find('.lytex') == -1:
stem = strip_extension (base, '.LYTEX')
else:
stem = strip_extension (base, '.lytex')
native_base = '%(dir)s/%(stem)s' % vars ()
native_base = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -aw %s' % escape_shell 
(native_base))

pdf_base = '%(dir)s/out/%(stem)s' % vars ()
pdf_base = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -aw %s' % escape_shell (pdf_base))
if not native_base:
native_base = '%(dir)s/%(stem)s' % vars ()
pdfname = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/regtool get /root/.pdf/')
pdfopencommand = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/regtool get 
/root/%s/shell/open/command/' % escape_shell (pdfname))

# hmm - pdf stuff
native_view = re.sub ('"([^"]*).*"', '\\1', pdfopencommand)
if not native_view:
native_view = 'acrobat'
if native_view:
	pdfview = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -au %s' % escape_shell 
(native_view))
if not pdfview:
	# message box?
	sys.stderr.write ('no pdf viewer found\n')
	pdfview = 'xpdf'

os.chdir (dir)
pdffile = '%(stem)s.pdf' % vars ()
if os.path.exists ('out'):
os.chdir ('out')
if os.path.exists (pdffile): # why do we have this functionality 
anyway???
os.unlink (pdffile)
os.chdir (dir) # reset to
# my major changes from this point onwards
script = '/usr/bin/lilypond-book --output=out'
exeA = '/usr/bin/latex'
exeB = '/usr/bin/dvips -u+lilypond -u+ec-mftrace'
scriptB = '/usr/bin/ps2pdf'
if os.path.exists ('/usr/bin/lilypond-book'):
script = '/usr/bin/lilypond-book --output=out'
# run lilypond-book on the lytex file
statA = system ('%s %s' % (script, escape_shell (base)))
os.chdir ('out') # change the working directory
statC = system ('%s %s.tex' % (exeA, escape_shell (stem)))
statD = system ('%s %s.dvi' % (exeB, escape_shell (stem)))
statE = system ('%s %s.ps' % (scriptB, escape_shell (stem)))
# later, we might to make a copy of this PDF, and place it with the .lytex
if not os.path.exists (pdffile):
print 'PDF output not found. An error occured.'
print 'Press enter to close window'
sys.stdin.readline ()
else:
system ('%s %s.pdf' % (escape_shell (pdfview), escape_shell (pdf_base)))
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Re: Context menu

[J L]

Hi.
I've recently written a python script to do what you ask. It is based on the 
Lily-Wins script works well
as long as you don't want any specific settings. I've attached the file.

Aligorith
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#!/bin/python
# lilytex-wins.py -- LilyPond command for .lytex on Windows
# By Joshua Leung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), based on lily-wins.py
# useful for LilyPond 2.4.2 - Recent lower versions may also work.
# To make it work with a windows right-click, add this to file-type 
associations
# for the .lytex extension. Change the cygwin directory to the correct place 
for
# your system. Also, place this in the right place.
#	C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c '/bin/lilytex-wins "%1"'

# Coded 12 April 2005.
# 	12/04/05 	- It works with files in a user's home dir. Not sure about 
other places.
#			- EDIT: it falls down when path has spaces. why, I don't know. how to 
fix, I don't know.
#			- after a short break, it works!

# importing - removed import time
import getopt
import os
import re
import sys
def usage ():
print 'Usage [-h,--help] lilytex-wins LYTEX-FILE'
def read_pipe (command):
s = os.popen (command).read ()
if s and s[-1] == '\n':
return s[:-1]
return s
def system (command):
os.system (command)
def strip_extension (f, ext):
(p, e) = os.path.splitext (f)
if e == ext:
e = ''
return p + e
def escape_shell (x):
return re.sub ("(\s|[`'\"])", r'\\\1',x)


# main
#	the code around here could do with a shake up! - but it is currently 
working.
filea = sys.argv[1]

native_file = filea
print 'Processing %s ...' % native_file
file = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -au %s' % escape_shell (native_file))
if not file:
file = native_file
cwd = os.getcwd ()
dir = os.path.dirname (file)
if not dir:
dir = '.'
base = os.path.basename (file)
# just a few changes here
if base.find('.lytex') == -1:
stem = strip_extension (base, '.LYTEX')
else:
stem = strip_extension (base, '.lytex')
native_base = '%(dir)s/%(stem)s' % vars ()
native_base = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -aw %s' % escape_shell 
(native_base))

pdf_base = '%(dir)s/out/%(stem)s' % vars ()
pdf_base = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -aw %s' % escape_shell (pdf_base))
if not native_base:
native_base = '%(dir)s/%(stem)s' % vars ()
pdfname = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/regtool get /root/.pdf/')
pdfopencommand = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/regtool get 
/root/%s/shell/open/command/' % escape_shell (pdfname))

# hmm - pdf stuff
native_view = re.sub ('"([^"]*).*"', '\\1', pdfopencommand)
if not native_view:
native_view = 'acrobat'
if native_view:
	pdfview = read_pipe ('/usr/bin/cygpath -au %s' % escape_shell 
(native_view))
if not pdfview:
	# message box?
	sys.stderr.write ('no pdf viewer found\n')
	pdfview = 'xpdf'

os.chdir (dir)
pdffile = '%(stem)s.pdf' % vars ()
if os.path.exists ('out'):
os.chdir ('out')
if os.path.exists (pdffile): # why do we have this functionality 
anyway???
os.unlink (pdffile)
os.chdir (dir) # reset to
# my major changes from this point onwards
script = '/usr/bin/lilypond-book --output=out'
exeA = '/usr/bin/latex'
exeB = '/usr/bin/dvips -u+lilypond -u+ec-mftrace'
scriptB = '/usr/bin/ps2pdf'
if os.path.exists ('/usr/bin/lilypond-book'):
script = '/usr/bin/lilypond-book --output=out'
# run lilypond-book on the lytex file
statA = system ('%s %s' % (script, escape_shell (base)))
os.chdir ('out') # change the working directory
statC = system ('%s %s.tex' % (exeA, escape_shell (stem)))
statD = system ('%s %s.dvi' % (exeB, escape_shell (stem)))
statE = system ('%s %s.ps' % (scriptB, escape_shell (stem)))
# later, we might to make a copy of this PDF, and place it with the .lytex
if not os.path.exists (pdffile):
print 'PDF output not found. An error occured.'
print 'Press enter to close window'
sys.stdin.readline ()
else:
system ('%s %s.pdf' % (escape_shell (pdfview), escape_shell (pdf_base)))
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Clef Change

[J L]

Hi,

How can you have a clef change where the new clef is written just in-front 
of the bar line?


The following example illustrate the closest LilyPond seems to come to this. 
Without the spacer rest,
Lilypond just prints the new clef before the bar line. However, there is 
always a gap that would be suitable for a semibreve between the bar line and 
the clef. The line widh is 40 mm.


{
\time 3/1
#(set-accidental-style 'forget)
\override Staff.Clef #'full-size-change = ##t
\clef alto  c'1
\bar "|"
s1
\bar ""
\clef bass c'1
\bar "||"
}

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Native Windows Build 2.5.25

[J L]

Dear Jan,

Finally, there is a native port for Windows!

on my computer, the only font that it chosses for text is Verdana.
Other ones are available, but only Verdana is used
And yet, the docs (PDF user manual) shows other fonts (while there is no 
apparent special commands specified)
I though I read that the fonts for Lily 2.5.x were Century Schoolbook or 
Book Antiqua?


is there an option to turn PDF point and click off? I makes the file size 
larger and I mostly don't need it



there's an empty file called midi.so in %install 
directory%\usr\lib\lilypond\2.5.25\python



is there a syntax change that now requires all contexts or staves to be 
explicitly declared?

in 2.4.x you could do and get midi and all
{ c'4 d'4 e'4 }
or
<<
\context Voice = something { c'4 d'4 e'4 }
\context Lyrics = something { s1 }
>>
\context Lyrics = something \lyricsto something { foo bar foo }

now you have to do to get sound or right staves
\new Staff { c'4 d'4 e'4 }
or
\context Staff = "something" <<
\context Voice = somethingA { c'4 d'4 e'4 }
\context Lyrics = somethingA { s1 }
>>

foreign fonts or non standard english characters causes ghostscript to fail. 
- I don't have some fonts but some should work?


could there be some window that appears when processing starts, and 
disappears when processing finishes?
	currently, I am left guessing and looking at the folder to see if LilyPond 
is doing anything


maybe a DOS restriction, but filenames are clipped to 8 characters. Why 
can't original filename be used?


Welcome to LilyPond file -
number 1, grammer: Safe instead of Save

Python -
	I think that the Python scripts could be made to run, using a little bit of 
path work, and
	adding an option to the installer (?) so that if a user has Python, those 
scripts could be
	run. Adding Python to this distribution I think is not a good idea as there 
are quite a few
	modules, and many are interlinked. This would lead to a larger download 
size...


\minor keys no longer supported?
LilyPond gives an error when it encounters something like
\key b \minor
but still allows
\key d \major

	the things that seem to define this (scale-definitions-init.ly) still seems 
to have minor defined


LilyPond tagline: spacing between the work "LilyPond" and the LilyPond 
version is a bit close

an attempt to fix that... in "titling_init.ly"

tagline = \markup {
\with-url

 %% todo: lilypond.org/music-engraving
#"http://lilypond.org/web/";
\line {
"Music engraving by LilyPond ("
#(ly:export (lilypond-version))
") -"
 "www.lilypond.org"
}
}


LilyPad, Made using some things similar to Windows Notepad.
Notepad cannot handle line breaks correctly. It only recognises Windows 
style (CrLf, 13+10). same here with LilyPad


gs.bat
It mentions a directory called: "C:\Program 
Files\LilyPond\user\share\gs\fonts\" which doesn't exist


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Re: Centered Rests (= in the middle of the staff) in a multi-voice staff, without using \rest

[Cédric J]

-Eluze  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> there is   \override Voice.Rest #'staff-position = #0
> 


Thanks a LOT!
this makes me save hours from now!


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\transpose not work working inside define-music-function

[J Smith]

I'm trying to define a music function that transposes a chord and a 
melody multiple times.  But for some reason, the transposition is done 
only once.
 
Here's my attempt:
 
repeatpattern =
#(define-music-function (parser location chord pattern) (ly:music? 
ly:music?)
  #{
  % <<
  \new ChordNames {
\transpose c d { #chord }
\transpose c e { #chord }
  }
  \new Staff {
\transpose c d { #pattern }
\transpose c e { #pattern }
  }
  % >>
  #})
 
\score {
  \repeatpattern { c1 } { c'4 d' e' r }
}
 
(delete the %'s preceding << and >>; had to add them to pass Gmane's 
filter).

Any ideas for why this is not working and how to fix it? (i.e., it 
should transpose "c d e" into "d e f#" and "e f# g#", not into "f# g# 
a#").


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On Windows will Lilypond/Frescobaldi work without .py files being associated with LilyPond's Python?

[J Dorocak]

Dear Lilypond Users,

 

On Windows will Lilypond/Frescobaldi work without .py files being associated
with LilyPond's Python?

 

Here is the current state of my system's .py file associations.

 

C:\Documents and Settings\joe>assoc .py

.py=Python

 

C:\Documents and Settings\joe>ftype Python

Python="C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe" "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
"%5" "%6" "%7" "%8" "%9"

 

C:\Documents and Settings\joe>ftype | findstr -i python

Python="C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe" "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
"%5" "%6" "%7" "%8" "%9"

Python.CompiledFile="C:\Python27\python.exe" "%1" %*

Python.File="C:\Python27\python.exe" "%1" %*

Python.NoConFile="C:\Python27\pythonw.exe" "%1" %*

py_auto_file="C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe" "%1" "%2" "%3"
"%4" "%5" "%6" "%7" "%8" "%9"

 

If I change these to point to my previously installed
C:\Python27\python.exe, will LilyPond/Frescobaldi still work?

 

Thanks for the help in advance.

 

Love and peace,

 

Joe

 

Joe Dorocak

j_doro...@comcast.net

 

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RE: Thanks & One question, Knute. Re: On Windows will Lilypond/Frescobaldi work without .py files being associated with LilyPond's Python?

[J Dorocak]

Thanks, Knute.

 

Love and peace,

 

Joe

 

Joe Dorocak

j_doro...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Knute Snortum [mailto:ksnor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:26 PM
To: Joe Dorocak
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Thanks & One question, Knute. Re: On Windows will
Lilypond/Frescobaldi work without .py files being associated with LilyPond's
Python?

 

They do.




 

Knute Snortum

(via Gmail)

 

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Joe Dorocak  wrote:


Knute Snortum  gmail.com> writes:

>
>
>
> (Sorry for the empty post)
> On my system it's just 
>
> C:\Users\Knute\workspace\Assignment10
> >assoc .py
> .py=Python.File
>
> C:\Users\Knute\workspace\Assignment10
>
> >ftype Python.File
> Python.File="C:\Programs\Python27\python.exe" "%1" %*
>
>
> There are no other ftypes for Python.
>
>

Dear Knute,

Thanks BIG TIME for the response.

I am assuming that your LilyPond/Frescobaldi installation(s) work well with
the association you mentioned.

Am I correct?

Thanks again, Knute.

Love and peace,

Joe




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Slur as TupletBracket

[J Ruiz]

From:  Jethro Van Thuyne 
Subject:  Slur as TupletBracket 
Date:  Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:55:33 + (UTC) 
User-agent:  Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) 


I'm trying to replace the tuplet bracket with a slur by doing:  \layout {
\context {  \Score   \override TupletBracket #'stencil = 
#ly:slur::print}  }Unfortunately, I get a fucked up slur, starting and 
ending vertically on the first note of the triplet (version 2.12.3): 
http://hemiola.eu/tuplet_slur.png Is it broken or am I doing it wrong?Best 
regards,Jethro.___
I use v2.14.2
Lilypond goes ignorant with tuplet brackets in style of a slur.
Switching to slur::print will require you add three control points for the slur
to manually define the curve:
\override TupletBracket #'control-points = #'( ( 4.5284 . 4.166) ( 6.521 . 
4.89) ( 8.9664 . 4.619) ( 10.415 . 2.717) )
Another side-effect of this option is collision avoidance is disabled, and
you'll likely need to also tweak the the TupletNumber offset with command like:
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Systematically Shortening Slurs

[J Ruiz]

I need to show a scale of notes, where every note has a slur to the next one.
Lilypond typesets the slurs with length to each notehead center, so my chain of 
slurs have ends that meet, not visually pleasing.
In this case, I'd like the slurs to be somewhat shortened, such that slur ends 
are some distance before the note head centers, but are still centralized 
between each note pair.
I can't seem to find a way to systematically override slur end-point location 
relative to note head destinations.
 
I found this property, but couldn't find documentation on usage or syntax on 
Internals reference, 
\override Slur #'slur-details = #'(head-slur-distance-factor . 10)
the syntax is wrong
 
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Force Key Signature

[J Ruiz]

I need to display again the current Clef and Key Signature.
I found this command to force Lilypond to show the current Clef:
\set Staff.forceClef = ##t
 
Is there a command to also force to print the current key signature after the 
clef?
 
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Re: Force Key Signature

[J Ruiz]

On Oct 24, 2011, at 9:38 AM, J Ruiz wrote:

I need to display again the current Clef and Key Signature.
>I found this command to force Lilypond to show the current Clef:
>\set Staff.forceClef = ##t
>Is there a command to also force to print the current key signature after the 
>clef?
>Thx, Javier
>---
>From:  address@hidden   
>Date:  Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:44:11 +0200 
Not that I know of, but you can type in the current key signature at any point 
& it'll reprint.

Cheers,
MS
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ties and polyphony

[J. Boor]

In this file:

http://www.jboor.net/music/polyreel/poly.ly

a second voice begins in the second measure. 

I would like there to be a tie between the last E in the first measure and 
the first e4 in the second measure. The only way that I have
been able to do this is by beginning the polyphony earlier
and using a skip at the beginning of the second voice.

Is there a better way to do this? The piece doesn't really
have two voices through out, so I don't want to litter my
score with rests. 

Thanks. 

Jeremy

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Re: ties and polyphony

[J. Boor]

Xavier Scheuer's suggestion answered my question. 
Thank you.

J. Boor


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