\parenthesize macro bug?

[Gagi Petrovic]

Dear ponders, i just wanted to create a macro for the use of \parenthesize,
doing:

pa = \parenthesize

But whenever i compile the file, i get an error message saying the line
after this macro has an "unexpected STRING". After removing the macro,
everything is fine. Is anyone experiencing the same problem?

Thank you!
Kind regards,
Gagi

P.S. using 2.14.2 on OS 10.6.8

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Re: \parenthesize macro bug?

[David Kastrup]

Gagi Petrovic  writes:

> Dear ponders, i just wanted to create a macro for the use of
> \parenthesize, doing:
>
>
> pa = \parenthesize
>
> But whenever i compile the file, i get an error message saying the
> line after this macro has an "unexpected STRING". After removing the
> macro, everything is fine. Is anyone experiencing the same problem?

\parenthesize _calls_ the function.

> P.S. using 2.14.2 on OS 10.6.8

pa = #parenthesize

should likely work.

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Different sized fermatas

[Nick Payne]

If I use \mark\markup { \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" } to get a 
fermata over the final barline, that fermata is larger than is obtained 
by using \fermata. Looks rather odd when I have a normal fermata a few 
bars before the final one.


Strangely, if I use \mark\markup\normalsize rather than just 
\mark\markup, then the two fermatas *are* the same size:


\relative c'' {
  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility = 
#begin-of-line-invisible

  c1^\fermata\mark\markup\normalsize { \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" }
  c1^\fermata\mark\markup { \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" }
}
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Re: Different sized fermatas

[Alexander Kobel]

On 2012-07-27 13:31, Nick Payne wrote:

If I use \mark\markup { \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" } to get a
fermata over the final barline, that fermata is larger than is
obtained by using \fermata. Looks rather odd when I have a normal
fermata a few bars before the final one.

Strangely, if I use \mark\markup\normalsize rather than just
\mark\markup, then the two fermatas *are* the same size:


Hm, in fact that's no surprise once you looked at the Internals
Reference: RehearsalMarks have font-size +2 by default, so roughly 26%
larger, see
...
That's why \normalsize helps.
I agree that it's odd at the first glance, but it's a tolerated side
effect of the deliberate decision that RehearsalMarks are printed larger
than most other stuff. I used to find it mildly annoying that LyricText
has a default font-size of +1, by the way...


Best,
Alexander

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Re: vertical spacing of text-paragraphs

[Thomas Morley]

Am 26. Juli 2012 21:02 schrieb "Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger"
:
> no, indeed, the output seems o.k. to me, too. in the original, that I was 
> working on, the paragraphs included longer texts, maybe there is some other 
> reason. I attach the original code (sorry, it's a little longer)
()

Hi,

how about using justified-string?
Paragraphs seems to be ok and less typing!

\version "2.15.39"

\markup {
%\override #'(baseline-skip . 5)
\override #'(line-width . 70)
\column {
\bold "Übersetzung"

\justify-string #"

In der Bedrängnis rie ich zu Gott; Gott hat mich erhört und
mich frei gemacht.
Gott ist bei mir, ich fürchte mich nicht. Was können Menschen
mir antun?
Gott ist bei mir, Gott ist meine Hilfe; deshalb kann ich
meinen Feinden ins Gesicht sehen.


Es ist besser, sich bei Got zu bergen, als auf
Menschen zu bauen.
Es ist besser, sich bei Gott zu vergen, als auf
Fürsten zu bauen.


Alle Völker umringen mich; ich wehre sie ab im Namen
des Ewigen.
Sie umringen, ja, sie umringen mich; ich wehre sie ab
im Namen des Ewigen.
Sie umschwärmen mich wie Bienen, wie ein Strohfeuer
verlöschen sie;
ich wehre sie ab im Namen des Ewigen.


Sie stießen mich hart, sie wollten mich stprzen; Gott
aber hat mir geholfen.
Meine Störke und mein Lied ist Gott; Gott wurde meine Hilfe.


Frohlocken und Jubel erschallt in den Zelten der Gerechten:
\"Die Rechte Gottes wirkt mit Macht! Die Rechte Gottes
ist erhoben,
die Rechte des Ewigen wirkt mit Macht!\"


Ich werde nicht sterben, sondern leben und die Taten
Gottes verkünden.


Gott hat mich hart gezüchtigt, aber hat mich dem Tod
nicht übergeben.
Öffnet mir die Tore zur Gerechtigkeit, damit ich
eintrete, um Gott zu danken.
Das ist das Tor Gottes, durch das die Gerechten eintreten.
"
\vspace #1
\bold "Bedeutung"

\justify-string #"


Der Text min hamezar ist dem 118. Psalm entnommen,
der den letzten Teil des Hallel - des Lobgebets darstellt.
Dieses umfaßt die Psalmen 113-118 und wird an
Feiertagen und anderen
fröhlichen Ereignissen im Rahmen  des Gottesdienstes rezitiert.
Meist folgt es im Morgengottesdienst dem schmone essre
- dem Achtzehngebet,
das das Hauptgebet darstellt.
"
}
}

Regards,
  Harm

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Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

[Graham Percival]

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to
> 28th.  Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters.
>
> http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop>

To get the ball rolling, I'm flying in to Dusseldorf airport on
Aug 23, at 19:20.  If anybody else is flying there and wants to
figure out the "local transport" (trains/bus/underground)
together, I'm happy to wait at the airport for an hour or two so
that we can travel together.

- Graham

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Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

[Nils]

> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> > 
> > Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to
> > 28th.  Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters.
> >
> > http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop>
> 

Hello list and organisers,

Is it possible to just visit for one or two days?
I am from Cologne so I would come by car and do not need any space sleep or 
food etc.

My main reason, besides meet and greet,  for a visit would be to make a small 
presentation of my graphical Lilypond frontend Laborejo 
(http://www.laborejo.org) as an aside, if you want that.


Greetings,

Nils

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Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

[Graham Percival]

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:35:09PM +0200, Nils wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> > > Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to
> > > 28th.  Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters.
> > >
> > > http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop>
> 
> Is it possible to just visit for one or two days?

Yes, absolutely!

> I am from Cologne so I would come by car and do not need any space sleep or 
> food etc.

not even lunch?  :)
anyway, sounds great.

> My main reason, besides meet and greet,  for a visit would be to make a small 
> presentation of my graphical Lilypond frontend Laborejo 
> (http://www.laborejo.org) as an aside, if you want that.

That sounds good -- but note that this is in a ranch, presumably
without any data projectors.  So I expect that we'd be clustered
around a single computer, or possibly around a few computers which
are showing the same webpage or pdf files ?

Does anybody know if it's possible to rent a low-quality (say,
640x480) VGA projector for a weekend in Germany for any reasonable
price?  assuming that David has any walls painted white, or maybe
also renting a portable screen?

My vague sense is that most VGA projector rentals would be aimed
at businesses, and would probably be a few hundred euros per day.
That's absolutely not what we want... actually, it might even be
cheaper to find an old VGA projector on ebay or craigslist or
whatever the equivalent is in Germany.


Come to think of it, I might be able to borrow something from my
supervisor at university -- but then I'd need to take it on the
airplane, through airport security, etc.  And it would be quite
big and bulky.

- Graham

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Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

[David Kastrup]

Graham Percival  writes:

> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:35:09PM +0200, Nils wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>> > > Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to
>> > > 28th.  Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters.
>> > >
>> > > http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop>
>> 
>> Is it possible to just visit for one or two days?
>
> Yes, absolutely!
>
>> I am from Cologne so I would come by car and do not need any space
>> sleep or food etc.
>
> not even lunch?  :)
> anyway, sounds great.

If it is just one day you'll be coming, we'll need to figure out the
best day after knowing who will be there when and what kind of talks we
are planning.

> Does anybody know if it's possible to rent a low-quality (say,
> 640x480) VGA projector for a weekend in Germany for any reasonable
> price?  assuming that David has any walls painted white, or maybe also
> renting a portable screen?

LCD projector is €10/day at the local video rental.  I guess that we'll
make use of that offer at least on some days.  It is necessary booking
ahead, though, but that should not be much of a problem.

> My vague sense is that most VGA projector rentals would be aimed
> at businesses, and would probably be a few hundred euros per day.

We are living in more modern times.

-- 
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Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

[Graham Percival]

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 04:52:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> Graham Percival  writes:
> > Does anybody know if it's possible to rent a low-quality (say,
> > 640x480) VGA projector for a weekend in Germany for any reasonable
> > price?  assuming that David has any walls painted white, or maybe also
> > renting a portable screen?
> 
> LCD projector is €10/day at the local video rental.  I guess that we'll
> make use of that offer at least on some days.  It is necessary booking
> ahead, though, but that should not be much of a problem.

That low?  Seriously?  wow.  ok, that's covered.

Ok, what else... you've mentioned "more people able to roll
releases", which would be a fantastic way to increase our bus
factor.  However, that would require serious horsepower, and
you've only got six (according to the website).  I'm only bringing
my netbook, and I know that your laptop can't handle it.  I
suppose that I could leave my university desktop on and we could
ssh into it (under supervision), but if anybody has a reasonably
powerful desktop computer and doesn't mind bringing it, that would
make the process _much_ easier.  I can bring a CD with the
relevant downloads so that we don't need to download 600 MB+ on
your rural internet connection[1].


[1] which, in the US or Canada, would absolutely suck, but I now
suspect is better than my connection in central Glasgow.

- Graham

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Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

[David Kastrup]

Graham Percival  writes:

> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 04:52:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Graham Percival  writes:
>> > Does anybody know if it's possible to rent a low-quality (say,
>> > 640x480) VGA projector for a weekend in Germany for any reasonable
>> > price?  assuming that David has any walls painted white, or maybe also
>> > renting a portable screen?
>> 
>> LCD projector is €10/day at the local video rental.  I guess that we'll
>> make use of that offer at least on some days.  It is necessary booking
>> ahead, though, but that should not be much of a problem.
>
> That low?  Seriously?  wow.  ok, that's covered.
>
> Ok, what else... you've mentioned "more people able to roll
> releases", which would be a fantastic way to increase our bus
> factor.  However, that would require serious horsepower, and
> you've only got six (according to the website).  I'm only bringing
> my netbook, and I know that your laptop can't handle it.  I
> suppose that I could leave my university desktop on and we could
> ssh into it (under supervision), but if anybody has a reasonably
> powerful desktop computer and doesn't mind bringing it, that would
> make the process _much_ easier.

I think we really need to get a dedicated net-accessible computer for
that at some point of time.

> I can bring a CD with the relevant downloads so that we don't need to
> download 600 MB+ on your rural internet connection[1].


> [1] which, in the US or Canada, would absolutely suck, but I now
> suspect is better than my connection in central Glasgow.

No idea.  It is 1Mbit/s DSL.  Not really enough for remote GUI sessions,
but I guess we'll be able to make it work for most purposes.

-- 
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Lilypond syntax

[Tim McNamara]

Some weeks back there was some discussion of the Lilypond syntax, I made some 
suggestions and was asked to write up a sample .ly file with the ideas I had in 
mind.  Basically my notion was to separate content (notes and chords) from form 
(number of bars, repeats, codas, rehearsal marks, etc.) in how things are coded 
into .ly files.  I've been playing around with that some and here is a sample 
.ly file with some of those ideas.  They may be terrible ideas, they may be 
impractical, they might require a total rewrite of Lilypond to implement, etc.  
I think like a musician, not a programmer, after all.  To me the form is the 
container of the music and it makes sense to specify the form first and then 
place the music within it.  Others may see this very differently.

The file is four bars of "Interplay" by Bill Evans with four parts.



Tim



Syntaxism.ly
Description: Binary data
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number-pitch printed on top / below of staff

[MING TSANG]

Hi, lily users:

Is it possible to print printed number-pitch on top or below the staff?  Some 
user helped me to generate numbered note heads.   I like the note head as 
default note heads, but the transcribe number printed on top or below staff.

attach png shows numbered note head.

 
Blessing in+,
Ming.
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Re: number-pitch printed on top / below of staff

[David Kastrup]

MING TSANG  writes:

> Hi, lily users:
>
> Is it possible to print printed number-pitch on top or below the
> staff?  Some user helped me to generate numbered note heads.   I like
> the note head as default note heads, but the transcribe number printed
> on top or below staff.
>
> attach png shows numbered note head.

Take a look at the slides (and/or the talk) of
http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2012/vortraege/900>.  Something
like that (just note names instead of numbers, but changing that is
trivial) has been the last demonstration of the talk.

-- 
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Re: number-pitch printed on top / below of staff

[Wim van Dommelen]

And what about using the "fingering" attribute for that:

e'8-3 c''4.-1 b'4-7  etc Although no default like your note heads.

Regards,
Wim.



On 28 Jul 2012, at 04:10 , MING TSANG wrote:


Hi, lily users:

Is it possible to print printed number-pitch on top or below the  
staff?  Some user helped me to generate numbered note heads.   I  
like the note head as default note heads, but the transcribe number  
printed on top or below staff.


attach png shows numbered note head.

Blessing in+,
Ming.
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