Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] creating projects for 4.4 now

[Valter Mura]

In data martedì 11 novembre 2014 14:53:53, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:
> Hi Sérgio,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Sérgio Marques  
wrote:
> > 2014-11-11 13:44 GMT+00:00 Christian Lohmaier :
> >> [...]
> >> 4.4 projects have *not* been updated against latest templates yet, it
> >> still is based on 4.3 templates. That will follow after creation of
> >> 4.3 projects is done.
> > 
> > Can we do it ourselves?
> 
> No.
> 1st of all: pootle doesn't know about the new templates yet, I.e.
> "update against templates" won't do anything right now
> 2nd updates triggered using the web-ui have caused the problem of
> getting strings from other languages mixed in
> 3rd non-translation-relevant changes in strings would not be migrated.
> 
> So 2nd is the reason why I'd say: Please don't.
> 3rd would not be so bad, but people will complain if I don't prepare
> the translations accordingly beforehand...
> 
So Christian, we can see the new project on Pootle, but the new strings aren't 
uploaded yet, correct? :)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Connection to Pootle extremely slow

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Hi All

I'm experiencing a very slow connection to Pootle.

Could you pls check?

TIA

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle very slow

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Hi All

I'm experiencing again a very slow connection with Pootle, both in 
changing pages and uploading files.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Workflow based on master

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Il 03/12/2014 18:27, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

Another follow-up on the discussion we had, who would be interested to
have a translation workflow based on master?

To understand, that would mean that a new project named 'master' will be
created on Pootle. Once a month, Cloph will extract the strings from
Pootle to the source code. The main translation work will happen on this
project with a timeframe of about 6 month to do the work. When a new
version is branched off, the master translations would be used to create
a release branch project.

Note that if you fix something in master project, it won't automatically
end up in the existing release branch-translations, you will have to fix
it these projects too. But the rule of no addition of strings will still
apply for developers, so there will be few changes and minor corrections
here.

What is your opinion on that?


I think it is a good idea, let's try it.

I have to check it and understand if it works for us.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) now available for Android

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Hi All

is there any translation plan for the app below mentioned?


 Messaggio Inoltrato 
Oggetto: 	[tdf-announce] LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) now available for 
Android

Data:   Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:06:40 +0100
Mittente:   Italo Vignoli 
A:  annou...@documentfoundation.org



Berlin, January 21, 2015 - The Document Foundation (TDF) is happy to see
the LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) for Android released in the Google Play
Store, allowing mobile users to access Open Document Format (ODF) files
from devices such as tablets and smartphones.

The application, created by Collabora, is available from the following
link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.collabora.libreoffice

The first release of LibreOffice Viewer handles text documents and basic
presentations. Support for spreadsheets have been included in an early
form, while support for  more complex presentations is planned for a
future release. Users are invited to download and test the application,
although care is advised for production environments.

"Support for Android is the result of cooperation between organizations
as well as individual contributors," said Michael Meeks, VP of
Productivity at Collabora, "LibreOffice's open ecosystem has again
proved its ability to bring diverse groups together to produce great
software without restrictions”.

The mobile app fulfils the wishes of many users who access ODF files on
the go, and is also able to read proprietary document formats from other
suites including Microsoft Office.

“This release is the first of a new series of mobile applications” said
Björn Michaelsen, a Director of The Document Foundation. “Individuals,
companies and organizations are encouraged to participate in the open
development process by joining the LibreOffice community."

The LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) has been created by Collabora with the
support of SMOOSE. It is built on foundational work by the LibreOffice
community, SUSE, and the Mozilla Corporation, with additional
development by Jacobo Pérez of Igalia, and Andrzej Hunt and Ian Billet
as part of Google Summer of Code.

Short link to blog post: http://tdf.io/androidviewer
---

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [it-l10n] nuova interfaccia it.libreoffice.org

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Il 25/01/2015 12:13, elcico2001 एल्चिको ha scritto:

Ciao a tutti!
Finalmente è attiva la nuova interfaccia di it.libreoffice.org
Sono ancora da sistemare 2-3 cosette e alcuni link; nel pomeriggio 
provvedo. Cmq se vi accorgete di errori segnalateli qui in lista.
Siccome con la nuova interfaccia il contenuto testuale è stato 
modificato e sono presenti vari "slogan" e frasi ad effetto... se ne 
avete di migliori proponete pure modifiche, chè il sottoscritto è 
decisamente poco fantasioso al riguardo! :)

Ciaociao :)


Grande lavoro Luca!! You're the best... :D

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[libreoffice-l10n] Interesting post: GNU i18n for high priority projects list

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Hi All

http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/01/gnu-i18n-for-high-priority-projects-list/

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[libreoffice-l10n] Translation "Print Preview" wrong displayed in Italian Interface

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Hi All

The string "Print Preview" is wrong displayed in the Italian UI, both in the 
menu and the relative button, even if it is correctly translated in Pootle:

*wrong* result: Stampa Anteprima

(should be) *correct* result: Anteprima di stampa

BTW, in the 4.3 version the translation is correct

A search in OpenGrok shows only one occurrence of "Stampa anteprima", not 
involving the error above.

I opened a bug for this matter, in order to understand what happened: 89334

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[libreoffice-l10n] No translation in a packet inside OpenGrok

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Hi All

during a search inside OpenGrok, I found this packet with no 
translation. Is it normal?


The search:
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/s?n=25&start=25&q=%22Print+Preview%22&sort=relevancy&project=translations,

The result:
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/translations/source/it/sw/source/uibase/uiview.po

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] guide for scholars

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Il 05/03/2015 08:56, Cor Nouws ha scritto:

Hi,

Recently I finished a guide/handbook for scholars: "make your most
beautiful report with LibreOffice Writer" - but then in Dutch.
Targeted at 13-16 years that need to write a nice, good report for some
school work. I'll make a simplified version for say 9-11 years.

Will start to promote it soon.
Any advise on how /where to fly to make this available in English too?

Cheers,
Cor


Hi Cor

great job :)

Have you already the English version? We can translate it also to Italian :)

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[libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice master Help and UI in Pootle

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Hi All

I noticed there are now "new" strings in LibreOffice subfolders "master" 
for Help and UI.


Can we start to work on them or do we have to wait?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Android viewer

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Il 27/04/2015 19:21, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

TDF will provide soon an Android viewer for testing purpose only for the
moment. So there will be no localized version for the moment. But if you
want to advertise it in your language, the text description on GPlay can
be translated.
If you are interested, I'll collect the translation and will upload them.
We have open an issue on Redmine where the text original and
translations will be added:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1252

I'll tell you when the source is available.
Cheers
Sophie

Hi Sophie,

count on me for Italian, of course :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Two new strings for 4.4 UI

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Il 26/05/2015 11:53, Cor Nouws ha scritto:

Hi Sophie,

Sophie wrote on 26-05-15 10:59:


Bubli asked about two strings that could be added to 4.4. What's your
opinion on it?
[...]
Let me know if you agree to merge the strings

+1 for merging


same for me, +1 for merging.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Testing the new Pootle version

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Il 19/05/2015 09:17, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

The new version of Pootle is now running on a test instance and need to
be fully tested, and for that we need your help :)
If you wish to participate to this testing phase, please send me an
e-mail and I'll give you the link and the list of what we know is not
working yet. Dwayne is currently fixing the few remaining bugs that we
found but we surely have missed some.
Thanks a lot in advance for your help
Cheers
Sophie

Hi Sophie,

same pwd as the other?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle test server - you absolutely must try to login

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Il 04/06/2015 13:40, Dwayne Bailey ha scritto:

Hi All,

Thanks so much for the testing so far.  The server has proved quite robust
and we've fixed a few issues.

We've made one last change which is an improvement to the login system.
It's quite a large change and ideally we'd like to know what problems we
face before we migrate next week.

So if you currently have a login on the current Pootle server please try
login on the new one.  We expect some problems and we'd like to fix then on
the current Pootle server if possible first.

Note:

1. Require email validation - the new server requires email validation,
we'd like to know that that works correctly.
2. Only one email - you can only have one account linked to one email
address in our current setup.  If you have duplicates we'd like to clean
those up in the old server.

So please one last round of testing to exercise the login system.


Login system worked correctly for me.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle test server - you absolutely must try to login

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Il 04/06/2015 13:40, Dwayne Bailey ha scritto:

Hi All,

Thanks so much for the testing so far.  The server has proved quite robust
and we've fixed a few issues.

We've made one last change which is an improvement to the login system.
It's quite a large change and ideally we'd like to know what problems we
face before we migrate next week.

So if you currently have a login on the current Pootle server please try
login on the new one.  We expect some problems and we'd like to fix then on
the current Pootle server if possible first.

Note:

1. Require email validation - the new server requires email validation,
we'd like to know that that works correctly.
2. Only one email - you can only have one account linked to one email
address in our current setup.  If you have duplicates we'd like to clean
those up in the old server.

So please one last round of testing to exercise the login system.


Hi Dwayne

I use to delete words by ctrl+canc, but if I use this combination in 
Pootle inside a string, the command leads me to the next string, instead.


I work from Linux (Firefox). Is it possible to check and arrange this 
problem?


Same problem in old and new Pootle.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in svx package

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Hi All

I think there's a typo in the file ui.po

"docking3deffects.ui\n mode\n 2\n stringlist.text"

ID: FmrBK

The name, with reference to shading, "Gourand" should be "Gouraud"

Can anybody confirm it?

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[libreoffice-l10n] Typos in Help

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Hi All

I noticed some typos in some Help-master strings (in Pootle). For 
semplicity I will indicate only the ID no.


- CGFqs : be be > (should be) be

- GjUgJ : be be > (should be) be

- vDZiF : fir > (should be) for


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n]

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Il 09/06/2015 10:22, Maniacco, Diego ha scritto:

This should mean that, for every language and context (example: the menues), 
the accelerators group must be first decided, remembering that for each context 
no duplicate must be present.

diego


AFAIK, where no accelerator present, it is automatically assigned by the 
build software.



On 09/06/15 07:53, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

It is an accelerator, just as tilde, it is used in some dialogs

Lp, m.
9. jun. 2015 07:39 je oseba "Veneto ABC" 
 napisala:



Hi,
I need a little help, please: what does the symbol "_" added in some words
to be translated?
Thankyou for your answers.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle migration begins 8/6/2015 at 1400UTC

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Il 08/06/2015 14:13, Dwayne Bailey ha scritto:

Hi Everyone,

As announced previously we're commencing the Pootle migration today, 8 June
2015.

Just to make sure that nobody is caught in the middle of this I'm going to
leave the old server online until 1400UTC, that is about 2 hours time.
After which I will take the server offline so that nobody is able to work
on thus ensuring that nobody loses any work.

Please block out 2-3 days for this migration, though we expect it may be
quicker (the database migrations themselves take about 18-24 hours to
complete).  After this we will open the server for active work.  The old
server will remain on standby in case we have to revert.

Thanks for your patience.  We'll see you at the other side.


Hi Dwayne/All,

what about the migration status? I still get an offline warning when 
trying to login.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle migration begins 8/6/2015 at 1400UTC

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Il 11/06/2015 14:41, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi Valter, all,
Le 11/06/2015 13:44, Valter Mura a écrit :


Il 08/06/2015 14:13, Dwayne Bailey ha scritto:

Hi Everyone,

As announced previously we're commencing the Pootle migration today, 8
June
2015.

Just to make sure that nobody is caught in the middle of this I'm
going to
leave the old server online until 1400UTC, that is about 2 hours time.
After which I will take the server offline so that nobody is able to work
on thus ensuring that nobody loses any work.

Please block out 2-3 days for this migration, though we expect it may be
quicker (the database migrations themselves take about 18-24 hours to
complete).  After this we will open the server for active work.  The old
server will remain on standby in case we have to revert.

Thanks for your patience.  We'll see you at the other side.


Hi Dwayne/All,

what about the migration status? I still get an offline warning when
trying to login.

Dwayne just told us that they hit a migration issue with the
suggestions. They are fixing it but they will need to restart from
scratch because the risk is to end with a database in a bad state
otherwise.
So unfortunately that will take more time than expected. I'll keep you
informed as soon as there is more information.

Really sorry for the inconvenience
Cheers
Sophie


Thank you Sophie for your feedback

Hope to work in it this weekend, I have many files to upload. :)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Difference between bookmarks values

[Valter Mura]

Hi All

During translation in Help, I found this occurrence in the same string 
(pootle, key id: QDaN9   - swriter/guide.po):


***
printing; previews
printing;previews
***

As far as I can see, the difference between them is only a "space" after 
the semicolon, in the second string. Has it got a significance or can we 
consider it the same as the first one?


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[libreoffice-l10n] Error during uploading a file in Pootle

[Valter Mura]

Hi All

when trying to upload a file in Pootle, I get this error:

"File u'01.po' missing X-Pootle-Path header"

I've always uploaded files that I translate with the software Lokalize.

The files I'm trying to upload are the same "masters" from the old 
Pootle site/version


Which change has been done with the upgrade?

I noticed these 2 new strings inside the file:

"X-Pootle-Path: /it/libo_help/sbasic/shared/01.po\n"
"X-Pootle-Revision: 0\n"

I suppose they are checking strings, aren't they?

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[libreoffice-l10n] error opening the project after downloading

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Il 16/06/2015 13:26, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

Good news and thanks to Dwayne's hard work, the migration is done and
Pootle is running on a new server. You can now reach it on the same
address as usual:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/

There is an error remaining: anyone with duplicate emails won't be able
to login. If it's your case, please report to this list and mention the
mail address we have to delete.

Please report any other issue you may encounter on this list.
Thanks to all for your patience, and thanks a lot to Dwayne too.

Cheers
Sophie
Now, if I download the entire project, for example the help, I get the 
zip file. I extract it and put in the usual folder I use in translation.
Lokalize DO NOT recognize the folder and cannot open single files (I get 
an error present in "row 3" in the file). Nor I cannot open them with 
Kate editor (it says there is an error with the file encoding).


I've never observed such an error. Please help, I usually work offline.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] error opening the project after downloading

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Il 18/06/2015 22:11, Valter Mura ha scritto:



Il 16/06/2015 13:26, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

Good news and thanks to Dwayne's hard work, the migration is done and
Pootle is running on a new server. You can now reach it on the same
address as usual:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/

There is an error remaining: anyone with duplicate emails won't be able
to login. If it's your case, please report to this list and mention the
mail address we have to delete.

Please report any other issue you may encounter on this list.
Thanks to all for your patience, and thanks a lot to Dwayne too.

Cheers
Sophie
Now, if I download the entire project, for example the help, I get the 
zip file. I extract it and put in the usual folder I use in translation.
Lokalize DO NOT recognize the folder and cannot open single files (I 
get an error present in "row 3" in the file). Nor I cannot open them 
with Kate editor (it says there is an error with the file encoding).


I've never observed such an error. Please help, I usually work offline.

Ciao

BTW, if I download single files, I don't have this behaviour. It seems 
like something wrong while creating the zip-file???


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[libreoffice-l10n] Another error uploading a single file in Pootle

[Valter Mura]

Hi

got this error when uploading this file:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/scalc/01.po

Error: "413 Request Entity Too Large"

The file is 2.1 M large

Pls advice, in this way it is impossible to work

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Error during uploading a file in Pootle

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Il 19/06/2015 23:35, Dwayne Bailey ha scritto:



On 18 June 2015 at 20:59, Valter Mura <mailto:valterm...@libreoffice.org>> wrote:


Hi All

when trying to upload a file in Pootle, I get this error:

"File u'01.po' missing X-Pootle-Path header"

I've always uploaded files that I translate with the software
Lokalize.

The files I'm trying to upload are the same "masters" from the old
Pootle site/version

Which change has been done with the upgrade?

I noticed these 2 new strings inside the file:

"X-Pootle-Path: /it/libo_help/sbasic/shared/01.po\n"
"X-Pootle-Revision: 0\n"

I suppose they are checking strings, aren't they?


Yes, those two items are used as following:

The Path to make sure we upload the file to the correct place, you'll 
notice we don't ask you for that anymore.


The Revision that allows us to detect if anything changed while you 
were offline.  For now if any unit changes your upload is rejected and 
we leave it to you to download and merge those files.  Our next 
iteration will add a bit more smarts and merge correctly as needed 
(since we track revision per string we should be able to do this 
better than before).


Hope that clarifies the items

The reason you are being bounced is that the files you have are from 
the old Pootle thus won't have those entries in them.




Thank you very much Dwayne for the clear infos.

One question more: if I add these 2 strings to the old files, am I 
right? Will I cause any damage to the files?


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] error opening the project after downloading

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Il 19/06/2015 23:37, Dwayne Bailey ha scritto:

On 18 June 2015 at 21:47, Valter Mura  wrote:



Il 18/06/2015 22:11, Valter Mura ha scritto:



Il 16/06/2015 13:26, Sophie ha scritto:


Hi all,

Good news and thanks to Dwayne's hard work, the migration is done and
Pootle is running on a new server. You can now reach it on the same
address as usual:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/

There is an error remaining: anyone with duplicate emails won't be able
to login. If it's your case, please report to this list and mention the
mail address we have to delete.

Please report any other issue you may encounter on this list.
Thanks to all for your patience, and thanks a lot to Dwayne too.

Cheers
Sophie


Now, if I download the entire project, for example the help, I get the
zip file. I extract it and put in the usual folder I use in translation.
Lokalize DO NOT recognize the folder and cannot open single files (I get
an error present in "row 3" in the file). Nor I cannot open them with Kate
editor (it says there is an error with the file encoding).

I've never observed such an error. Please help, I usually work offline.

Ciao

  BTW, if I download single files, I don't have this behaviour. It seems

like something wrong while creating the zip-file???


Could you please report and issue here
https://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/new where you can explain
exactly where and how you got the zip.  It would also be helpful if you can
upload the Zip somewhere for us to look at.  Thanks.


Thanks Dwayne, I'll try one more time and will report.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Another error uploading a single file in Pootle

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Il 18/06/2015 22:47, Valter Mura ha scritto:

Hi

got this error when uploading this file:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/scalc/01.po

Error: "413 Request Entity Too Large"

The file is 2.1 M large

Pls advice, in this way it is impossible to work

Ciao


Hi Dwayne

another file with the same error:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/shared/01.po

It is 1.7 Mb big.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Error during downloading Ui project

[Valter Mura]

Hi Dwayne

I got this error downloading:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/export/?path=/it/libo_ui/

"504 Gateway Time-out"

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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in UI - readlicense_oo (Pootle)

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Hi All

possible typo in (Pootle) UI / readlicense_oo

readme.xrm w32e1 readmeitem.text

Unit: 29882506

Key id: NB4DA

Now it reads: "...or the Help documention of your operating system."

Should correct to read: "...or the Help documentation of your operating 
system."


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Typo in UI - readlicense_oo (Pootle)

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Il 17/07/2015 19:56, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos ha scritto:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=4b70f9b9354895efff151f323aef687a72c3d8f3

Adolfo

Thank you very much, Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] emoji uniqueness?

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Il 20/07/2015 11:11, Németh László ha scritto:

Hi,

Yes, we need unique keywords. Fortunately, there are only a few duplicates.
Unfortunately, there is no Pootle integration yet, but the update script
found the following ones:

Languages:




duplicate_emoji_it.txt


I'm going to give to them a look
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] emoji uniqueness?

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Il 20/07/2015 11:11, Németh László ha scritto:

Hi,

Yes, we need unique keywords. Fortunately, there are only a few duplicates.
Unfortunately, there is no Pootle integration yet, but the update script
found the following ones:

Languages:

duplicate_emoji_it.txt

Hi

Italian done

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Changes in 5.0 UI

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Il 25/07/2015 10:10, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

There have been several UI changes in LibreOffice 5.0. Those changes are
not yet reflected in the Help files. I've asked Jay that major
removing/adds in the menu don't go in the UI until the help files are
modified to reflect them and they are normally contributed only to master.
I may have overlooked some of them and it's still time to revert changes
we are not happy with. So could you let me know your opinion here, is
there existing changes in the menu of 5.0 that are mandatory to be
documented?


I don't think it could be a showstopper for the release, from a power 
user point of view, but consider the average user which needs to 
understand the new features and wants to read them in the help.


So, not mandatory but urgent to implement in the release soon after the 
5.0 one.


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[libreoffice-l10n] partial translation in Spanish (Pootle)

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Hi,

in the help string (key ID: TDSKH) the translation is partial (mixed 
english and spanish)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] partial translation in Spanish (Pootle)

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Il 03/08/2015 23:37, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos ha scritto:

Hi, Christian and Valter:

I have fixed it, thanks for the heads-up!

Feel free to mail me personally (instead of to the list) if you find
more problems like this.

Adolfo

You're welcome Adolfo!

I'll contact you directly the next time :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Backport to 5.0 / string change

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Il 13/08/2015 07:15, Jan Holesovsky ha scritto:

Hi,

I have a fix for

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80866

that consists of two parts - a revert, and a string change:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=ac2f6018e01cbd24f394911e8bcd3ee3c217eb51

The revert is now under review for inclusion to 5.0, and Adolfo suggests
to get the string change there too:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/17681/

Is that OK from the l10n point of view, please?

Thank you,
Kendy



Ok for Italian team

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle: LibreOffice 5 or Master?

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Hi All

I noticed the new folders for version 5 in Pootle, but I'm working on 
some revisions on help in master.


Where will the strings for the update of next versions 5.x be picked from?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle: LibreOffice 5 or Master?

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Il 17/08/2015 13:53, Mihovil Stanić ha scritto:
So version 5.1 will be taken from libo50_ui and not from libo_ui (aka 
master)?




As far as I understand, if you work in libo_ui (master), your 
modifications should be replied in libo50_ui



Mihovil

17.08.2015 u 13:33, Christian Lohmaier je napisao/la:
Where will the strings for the update of next versions 5.x be picked 
from?

They will be taken from the libo50_ui and libo50_help projects.

ciao
Christian





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[libreoffice-l10n] Strange loop in Pootle during refresh

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Hi All

I logged in Pootle, but the system continuosly try to refresh the page 
with a yellow ribbon as indicator. It looks like a loop:


Some data on this page is currently being calculated, and the page will 
be refreshed automatically in (on and on and on )


How could I stop this?

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle: Server Error while saving a translation

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Hi All

I'm currently experiencing a server error while trying to save some 
corrections to Italian help strings


Could you pls check it?

TIA

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle: Server Error while saving a translation

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Il 28/08/2015 21:24, Sophie Gautier ha scritto:


Hi all,

Le 28 août 2015 21:04, "Giovanni Caligaris" 
mailto:giovannicaliga...@gmail.com>> a 
écrit :

>
> I am having the same issue as well

Hum, Cloph is on vacation. I'm adding Alex to this mail maybe he will 
be able to have look if it's on the infra side. Otherwise I'll ping 
Dwayne.




Hi Sophie

this problem is still pending...


>
> -Gio
>
>
> On 28/08/15 15:03, Valter Mura wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I'm currently experiencing a server error while trying to save some 
corrections to Italian help strings

>>
>> Could you pls check it?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Ciao
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Issue with Pootle

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Il 31/08/2015 11:27, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

Issue has been solved, thanks a lot to Alex for his work :)


Thank you very much Alex, you saved our teams :) :)

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Ris: [libreoffice-l10n] Request of 2 words translation for Redmine

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Hi SophieDoes History mean a sequence of actions or events?In 
this case it should be "Cronologia"CiaoValterOpen Source is 
better!Sent from my Android device Messaggio originale Oggetto: Re: 
[libreoffice-l10n] Request of 2 words translation for RedmineDa: Osvaldo 
Gervasi A: Sophie 
CC: LibreOffice-l10n 
---it:  
label_history_tab_all: Storia  label_history_tab_comments: 
Commenti---2015-12-01 14:33 GMT+01:00 
Sophie :> Hi all,>> I've a small 
translation request to be added to redmine, the template is> 
---> en:>   label_history_tab_all: History>   
label_history_tab_comments: Comments> ---> where 
[en] is replaced by your locale, History and Comments translated> in your 
language, as an example, for French it would be:> 
---> fr:>   label_history_tab_all: Historique>  
 label_history_tab_comments: Commentaires> 
--->> Thanks a lot in advance for you help :) You 
can either mail to the list> or directly to me.>> Cheers> 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice Online localization

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Il 15 febbraio 2016 11:05:10 CET, Andras Timar  ha scritto:
>Hi Cloph,
>
>I'd like to ask you to add LibreOffice Online project to Pootle.
>
>How to make pots:
>
>git clone ssh://logerrit/online
>cd online/loleaflet
>make pot
>
>pot files are created in po/ directory: loleaflet-ui.pot and
>loleaflet-help.pot.
>

Hi Andras 

This is a great idea!!!


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[libreoffice-l10n] A question about tags

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Hi All

This could be a dummy question: how can we understand if a translatable string 
with the  tags appears only in the UI or both in the UI and the 
online help?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A question about tags

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Il 22 febbraio 2016 14:15:17 CET, Andras Timar  ha scritto:
>Hi Valter,
>
>On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Valter Mura
>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> This could be a dummy question: how can we understand if a
>translatable
>> string with the  tags appears only in the UI or both in
>the UI
>> and the online help?
>>
>
> visibility="hidden" -> UI only
>missing visibility attribute -> both UI and help
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] many fuzzy strings due to xlm tags move in 5.2 help files

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Il 19 marzo 2016 19:02:07 CET, Martin Srebotnjak  ha scritto:
>It's an old story. Developers of OOo/LO think localizers are enjoying
>this
>kind of manual work. As if it was a mandala or knitting.
>So they rework tags every now and then, without caring about our
>feelings.
>
>But we are not enjoying it and the latest thousands changes of the tag
>kind
>must be made with a script in the translated strings. Not our work.
>
>So we have enough time to do what we do - localize. Amen.
>
>Lp, m.
>
>2016-03-19 18:13 GMT+01:00 Stanislav Horáček
>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Dne 14.3.2016 v 18:35 Christian Lohmaier napsal(a):
>>
>>> Hi *,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Sophie 
>wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 + Many strings are the same content but with xml tags placed
>differently

>>>
>>> Most fuzzy strings are not because xml tags being placed differently
>>> (where xml tags are different,  it was to fix validation errors),
>but
>>> most fuzzy strings are due to changes in message context.
>>>
>>
>> there are also hundreds of the strings with differently placed tags
>and
>> for them it is not enough to just accept fuzzy strings - typically
>>  has
>been
>> changed to
>.
>>
>> Are these strings planned to be translated automatically as well?
>>
>>
>>> But as it is time til August, not urgent (doesn't need to be done
>this
>>> or next week IMHO). Remember: if we wouldn't have master projects,
>you
>>> wouldn't know about this right now :-))
>>>
>>
>> This is not completely true - the issue with the "l10n" and "oldref"
>tags
>> changing context affected also 5.1 strings, now it is just
>highlighted
>> because of the massive automated changes.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stanislav
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Hi All

I definitely agree with Martin. :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request to save in odfauthors website files used for examples in guides

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Il 2 marzo 2016 21:23:03 CET, "elcico2001 एल्चिको"  ha 
scritto:
>Hello all,
>May I ask all people working in the documentation group to save, for 
>later use, example files created while writing libo guides?
>In this way localizators won't have to completely recreate them when 
>localizing images.
>I think the best place to save files is the odfauthors website (where 
>there is already 1 file saved - for the calc guide).
>Thank you very much!
>Namastè all :)

Hi

I agree and support this idea :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] XHP Help online to assist translators

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Il 28/04/2016 20:13, Olivier Hallot ha scritto:

Hi

As some of you know perhaps, I have set a web site that is able to
display the help pages (.xhp) directly on a browser (except Microsoft
browsers, saddly)

As a translator myself I found it interesting to display the page where
the string is located. It helps to understand the context of the string
to translate and to improve quality.


Great job, Olivier! :)



For example, if I am translating string 'xSbDA' located in page
'0306.xhp' of 'libo_help/smath/01.po', I can visit the page in
English at the address

http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/smath/01/0306.xhp

The Pootle server in translation mode shows all information to access
the page, but there is no automatic connection between vm173 and Pootle.

The help online has been loaded with the latest master help contents,
updated just today. What you see there may be a little in advance of the
exisiting copy in pootle. I believe this shall not be an issue for most
of you.

Another usage of this service is to browse or review help pages ad-hoc
and check for consistency, precision and linguistics of its contents.
The top right area displays info on the xhp file, so it makes it easy to
pinpoint the page to improve.

I hope some of you will find interesting to access vm173.

regards



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[libreoffice-l10n] Some old features in Pootle missing

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Hi All

after the Pootle's latest update I'm experiencing some useful features I 
used to use during translation:


- TM suggestion's derivation is missing
- Translated strings in UI are not used for suggestions in Help
- Same translation / very similar translation, in the same area/project 
are not proposed for other strings


Am I wrong or is this a little regression in the software?

TIA, ciao

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle - Differerences in Help Calc Strings

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Hi All

I noticed, while translating, this difference between 
sentences/formulas, package help/calc/01.po:


=FORECAST.ETS.PI.ADD(DATE(2014;1;1);Values;Timeline;0,9;1;TRUE();1)

(https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/scalc/01.po#unit=108798679)

and

=FORECAST.ETS.PI.ADD(DATE(2014;1;1);Values;Timeline;0.8;4;TRUE();7)

(https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/scalc/01.po#unit=108798683)

The difference is between 0,9 and 0.8, where I think the first is not 
correct. Is it possible to check?


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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle - possible typo in LibreOffice master - Help - swriter/guide.po

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Hi All

while translating, I found a possible typo in:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/swriter/guide.po#unit=108837119

ID: EYN9C

***
If you want to use a different paragraph style as a table of contents 
entry, select Additional styles, and then 
click the (Assign styles) button next to 
the box.

***

Brackets ( ) should not be there.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Possible typo in Pootle LibreOffice Help

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Hi All

in 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/scalc/guide.po#unit=108811891


it seems to have a typo in the XML tags. Could you please check?

The tag is: 

that seems to be wrong and also not closed.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle - Possible error in tag

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Hi All

Pootle indicates there is a critical error in some strings. It seems to 
be  (if it needs some opening, or whatever, of course)


The strings are:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/shared/01.po#unit=30714571

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/shared/01.po#unit=30713281

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/shared/01.po#unit=30713351

Could you please check? Many thanks


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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle - Possible error in tag - 2

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Hi All

Pootle indicates there is a critical error in the indicated string. It 
seems that  is missing


The string is:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/shared/04.po#unit=30722737

Could you please check? Many thanks


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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Possible typo in Pootle LibreOffice Help

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Il 05/07/2016 21:27, Martin Srebotnjak ha scritto:

The tag is closed by itself.
Lp, m.


Thanks, Martin



5. jul. 2016 7.51 PM je oseba "Valter Mura" mailto:valterm...@libreoffice.org>> napisala:

Hi All

in

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/scalc/guide.po#unit=108811891

it seems to have a typo in the XML tags. Could you please check?

The tag is: 

that seems to be wrong and also not closed.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Another invalid xml tag

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Il 02/08/2016 12:18, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
 wrote:

Le 31/07/2016 à 15:57, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :

2016-07-31 12:28 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Faure mailto:jbfa...@libreoffice.org>>:



no, that tag is self-closed, just as  (for line break) in HTML,
that is why there is that / at the end of tag and it does not need
another tag for closing.


In that case, there is a bug in Pootle which detects these self-closing
tags as invalid xml tags.


No, not a bug in pootle. While it is valid xml, it is not valid helpcontent.


According to Pootle, in the string buNWf in

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/fr/libo_help/translate/sdraw.po#unit=29707700
there is an invalid xml tag. I guess it is 


Empty caseinline statements doesn't make sense at all, writing it in
expanded form doesn't change the meaning. It then would still be
pointless.

In this case the whole switchinline is pointless, as it doesn't switch
anything at all.


So, in these cases, do we have to expect some correction in Pootle?

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[libreoffice-l10n] Discrepancy between Help and UI

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Hi All

in the Online Help the description doesn't match with the changes in the 
UI, Writer section.


For better explanation, in Pootle unit:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/swriter/guide.po#unit=30741538

"Click the Background tab." doesn't match with the actual 
UI tab, which is now "Area" and not "Background"


Note that this should affect versions 5.1 and 5.2 (master in Pootle)


Please, amend this part and tell me if it is necessary to open a bug for 
this issue, thank you.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [HEADS UP] Community forum/askbot linked to LibreOffice

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Il 22/08/2016 17:41, Olivier Hallot ha scritto:

Hello L10n Team leaders

The next LO 5.3 release will include a new entry in the applications
help menu, "Get Help Online".

Menu *Help -> Get Help Online*

This entry aims to quick-link the software to a website with a
community-driven contents localized website , such as a forum or askbot,
to be open in the browser. The link will pass the language of your UI
(not the locale!) to the TDF infra hub.

IMPORTANT: this entry does not link to the wikihelp
(help.libreoffice.org), which is accessed by menu *Help -> LibreOffice Help*

We need you to tell us what page do you want this link to open, for your
language.

The Current available languages/website for TDF Askbot are



Italian (184)
http://ask.libreoffice.org/it/questions



Hi Olivier,

for Italian users, leave the above mentioned link, thank you.




Please confirm if you want us to link to the askbot in your language or
you want the link to point to another website. Beware that your choice
may not be under TDF infra management.

If you prefer not to link to a community website, please indicate what
page under TDF service you want to link. For example, a page in the
LibreOffice website, a TDF wiki page or perhaps a fall-back to the
English TDF askbot.

If you don't have an TDF-askbot instance in your language, but think
this is a good time to get one and link LO to it, please let us know.

Thank you and best regards.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle super slow

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Il 04/12/2016 18:04, Giovanni Caligaris ha scritto:

Anyone having the same issue?

I can bearly do any work.

-Gio


Hi Giovanni

I agree with you and Leif.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle-Upgrade

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Il 17/12/2016 20:40, Michael Wolf ha scritto:

Hi,

when will the Pootle upgrade be completed? On the Site Maintance page is
written following sentence:

"While we plan for the upgrade to be done within a few hours, don't be
alarmed if pootle is not available for most of the day."

Few hours? More than two days have been passed now.


Michael



Hi, I suppose that it's a hard way to the top if you wanna upload 38 
GB... :)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade and migration finished

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Il 21/12/2016 15:52, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi all,

The upgrade to the new Pootle version and the migration is over. Really
sorry for the inconvenience, but it's a very big database we have there.

Please check that all is in order for you, I've visited all the
interface but I may have miss something. I'll document the new features
on the wiki next week.

Before the migration, several languages were not updated, Cloph will
trigger a new full update later today (still a task running for the moment).

Let me know if you find anything wrong and thanks so much for your
patience, I hope you'll enjoy the new functionalities (check the
comments dialog ;-)

Cheers
Sophie


Thank you All

now working correctly :)

Best wishes to you all!!!

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade and migration finished

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Il 26/12/2016 21:35, Andras Timar ha scritto:

Hi Sophie,

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Sophie  wrote:



Let me know if you find anything wrong and thanks so much for your
patience, I hope you'll enjoy the new functionalities (check the
comments dialog ;-)



Translation statistics are unreliable. For example:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo_online/ shows 760
words incomplete for Slovak, while
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/sk/libo_online/ shows that
Slovak is 100% translated.

Slovak is just an example, I found this in case of many languages.


Hi

I confirm this behaviour: the "All Languages" summary differs from the 
real (specific) string situation.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Help - Pootle

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Hi All

I found 2 typos in Master / Help, comment: t3HDA (bookmark values)

context: classificationbar.xhp\n bm_id030820161851045883\n help.text

now it reads > classifcation

should correct to read > classification


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[libreoffice-l10n] Probable typo in Help, Pootle

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Hi All

Comment: HEmeD
File: func_aggregate.xhp
Context:
func_aggregate.xhp\n par_id2309201516525483\n help.text

Now it reads:
"If the Function and/or Option arguments 
specified not correctly, the function returns the error Err:502."


Should correct to read:
"If the Function and/or Option arguments 
specified *are* not correct, the function returns the error Err:502."


Or: *are not specified correctly*

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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Writer Help Master, Pootle

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Comment: vXxZE
File: protection.xhp
Context: protection.xhp\n par_id181120164720412\n help.text


Now it reads:

If you want the protection with a password, choose *the* the
Protect and With password check boxes. Enter 
and confirm the password of at least five characters.



Should correct to read:

If you want the protection with a password, choose the
Protect and With password check boxes. Enter 
and confirm the password of at least five characters.




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[libreoffice-l10n] Probable typo in Writer Help Master, Pootle

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Hi All

Comment. RusE9
File: protection.xhp
Context: protection.xhp\n par_id18112016345678\n help.text


Now it reads:

If the protection *has no a password*, uncheck the Protect 
under

the Write protection.

Better: has no password / has not a password / is without password


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[libreoffice-l10n] Sentence not clear in Writer Help Master, Pootle

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Hi All,

Comment: zcqKC
File: protection.xhp
Context: protection.xhp\n par_id3153966\n help.text

Now it reads:

Tables of contents and indexes created automatically in a %PRODUCTNAME Writer text, and it has automatically
protected against accidental changes.

But maybe:

Tables of contents and indexes created automatically in a %PRODUCTNAME Writer text, are automatically
protected against accidental changes.

(as previous version)

Or:

Tables of contents and indexes that are created automatically in a type="

productname">%PRODUCTNAME Writer text, have/receive an automatic
protection against accidental changes.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Sentence not clear in Writer Help Master, Pootle - #2

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Hi All,

Comment: hCgu4
File: protection.xhp
Context: protection.xhp\n par_id31544811\n help.text

Now it reads:

You can protect the contents of >%PRODUCTNAME Writer document from changes, if it is one form 
follow file formats: .doc, .docx, .odt, .ott.


Maybe?:

You can protect the contents of >%PRODUCTNAME Writer document from changes, if it is one form 
that follows the file formats: .doc, .docx, .odt, .ott.


And also, in Master UI:

Context: optcompatpage.ui format 11 stringlist.text
Locations: optcompatpage.ui
Comments: nEdVT

What does "Protect form" refer to?

I suppose a module, correct?


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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Writer Help Master - Pootle #2

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Hi All

Comment: mrXCA
File: 0210.xhp
Context: 0210.xhp\n par_id3150506\n help.text

Now it reads:

Replacement options *are listed* are listed under the Find box
and in the Other options area of the dialog.

Should correct to read:

Replacement options are listed under the Find box
and in the Other options area of the dialog.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Probable typo in Writer Help Master, Pootle #2

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Hi All

Comment: CkzGB
File: 0211.xhp
Context: 0211.xhp\n par_id3155852\n 20\n help.text


Now it reads:



Is the full stop correct? In other ahelp hid a slash is present (hid="modules/swriter/ui/navigatorpanel/up"> or hid="modules/swriter/ui/navigatorpanel/save">)



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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Shared Help Master - Pootle

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Hi All,

Comment: kJec5
File: 05020301.xhp
Context: 05020301.xhp\n par_id3146925\n help.text

Now it reads:

Denominator is calculated to get the nearest value of the fraction with
*repsect* to the number of placeholders. For example, PI value is 
represented as 3 16/113 with format:


Should correct to read:

Denominator is calculated to get the nearest value of the fraction with
respect to the number of placeholders. For example, PI value is 
represented as 3 16/113 with format:



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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Shared Help Master - Pootle #3

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Hi All

Comment: U5Xzy
File: cmis-remote-files.xhp
Context: cmis-remote-files.xhp\n par_id19082016170716519\n help.text

Now it reads:

All parameters *dispalyed* are read-only.

Should correct to read:

All parameters displayed are read-only.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Shared Help Master - Pootle #4

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Hi All

Comment: PopHB
File: start_parameters.xhp
Context: start_parameters.xhp\n par_id3153919\n help.text

Now it reads:

It can take only one parameter no which *deativates* the 
Quickstarter service. Without parameters this service is activated.


Should correct to read:

It can take only one parameter no which deactivates the 
Quickstarter service. Without parameters this service is activated.




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[libreoffice-l10n] Typo in Calc Help Master - Pootle

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Hi All,

Comment: KSz4L
File: func_color.xhp
Context: func_color.xhp\n par_id1102201617001848\n help.text

Now it reads:

Return a numeric value calculated by a combination of 
three colors (red, green and blue) and the alpha channel, in the RGBA 
color *system.The* result depends on the color system used by 
your computer.



Should correct to read:

A space is needed between  and The



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] function WORKDAYS.INTL is actually WORKDAY.INTL

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Il 16/01/2017 15:14, Olivier Hallot ha scritto:

Hi

A mistake was introduced in the help page for the function WORKDAY.INTL.
The help page refers wrongly to WORKDAYS.INTL which does not exist.

A fix is already in master.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/33172/

Regards



Hi Olivier

when will the correction be uploaded in Pootle?

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] function WORKDAYS.INTL is actually WORKDAY.INTL

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Il 16/01/2017 19:13, Sophie ha scritto:

Le 16/01/2017 à 18:56, Valter Mura a écrit :

Il 16/01/2017 15:14, Olivier Hallot ha scritto:

Hi

A mistake was introduced in the help page for the function WORKDAY.INTL.
The help page refers wrongly to WORKDAYS.INTL which does not exist.

A fix is already in master.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/33172/

Regards



Hi Olivier

when will the correction be uploaded in Pootle?


We are in string freeze, so that will be for the next version, you can
correct it already, and the string will appear as fuzzy.
Cheers
Sophie



Hi Sophie, thanks for the explanation, ciao

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Will you accept a new additional string for 5.3 language listbox?

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Il 16/01/2017 21:54, Eike Rathke ha scritto:

Hi,

To solve https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104950
I added locale data for English in Malaysia [en-MY], which currently in
5.3 is displayed as the raw language tag "en-MY" in the language
listbox. I could add the proper display string "English (Malaysia)" to
svtools/source/misc/langtab.src StringArray STR_ARR_SVT_LANGUAGE_TABLE
if translators don't object.

Opinions?


Ok for Italian team


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Help Master, Pootle : option --safe-mode

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Il 16/01/2017 11:58, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:

HI Jean-Baptiste, *,

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
 wrote:

Hi All,

Comment: GgV84
File: profile_safe_mode.xhp
Context: profile_safe_mode.xhp par_id281120163154362 help.text


Why do people still "refuse" to provide the link to the unit...
e.g.
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/pl/libo_help/translate/shared/01.po#unit=117826128


Hi Christian

I gave the same indications, too.

The reason is because I'm working offline, so I gave the data that the 
CAT tool indicated to me.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle down

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Il 03/02/2017 14:10, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi Cor,
Le 03/02/2017 à 11:52, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi,

I noticed some people mentioning Pootle is down.
The problem is known, people are looking at it.


Cloph already answered on the list about it, he is pushing the migration
with some fixes.
Cheers
Sophie



Hi All

how long will the update last? The site is about two or three days down now.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] pocheck results for master - langs fa til kos

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Il 28/04/2017 17:43, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:


Pocheck error report for # it #
 Style name translations must be unique — See STR_POOLCOLL_*
Duplicated translations in file sw/source/ui/utlui.po
Citazione



Hi All

checking and resolving

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] pocheck results for master - langs fa til kos

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Il 28/04/2017 17:43, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:


Pocheck error report for # fr #
 Style name translations must be unique — See STR_POOLCOLL_*
Duplicated translations in file sw/source/ui/utlui.po
Citation





Pocheck error report for # it #
 Style name translations must be unique — See STR_POOLCOLL_*
Duplicated translations in file sw/source/ui/utlui.po
Citazione



Hi All

I checked and I noticed French has the same problem.

'Quotation' and 'Citation' have the same translation in Italian.

Is it compulsory to have different translations?

TIA

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] pocheck results for master - langs fa til kos

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Il 29/04/2017 18:08, Valter Mura ha scritto:



Il 28/04/2017 17:43, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:


Pocheck error report for # it #
 Style name translations must be unique — See STR_POOLCOLL_*
Duplicated translations in file sw/source/ui/utlui.po
Citazione



Hi All

checking and resolving



Hi All

checked and solved.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] gettext and translations

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Il 01/06/2017 21:45, Mihkel Tõnnov ha scritto:

2017-06-01 18:14 GMT+03:00 Sophie :


Hi all,

I invite all of you to have a read to that message from Caolan, it's a
discussion, so please share your concerns, your solutions, your views :)

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2017-May/077818.html

For those who translates out of Pootle, msgctxt is to be removed, if you
need them, just tell me how you use it.



Hi Sophie, *,

I read Caolán's mail, and while removing clutter is good, I'm really
worried by this proposed (impending?) removal of msgctxt. Namely, does
removing it mean that e.g. "Left", "Edit", "Number", "Print", "None" etc.
could no longer be translated differently (depending on the string's
precise context) within same module? How "big" would a module be in the
proposed new system anyway? Would all strings in same
toolbar/panel/dialog/menu/etc. be one module, or all strings in same
component, like the whole of Writer?


Hi All

I agree with this point, 'msgtxt' often gives to us useful hints to 
translators, especially to those people that translate offline.
Of course, if LibreOffice developers doesn't use it, it should be 
unuseful for us.


What I hope for it is the following, look at the example taken by KDE:

#. +> trunk5
#: plugins/generic/skg_advice/skgadviceboardwidget.cpp:40
#, kde-format
msgctxt "Dashboard widget title"
msgid "Advices"
msgstr "Suggerimenti"

#. +> trunk5
#: plugins/generic/skg_advice/skgadviceboardwidget.cpp:57
#, kde-format
msgctxt "Noun, a user action"
msgid "Activate all advice"
msgstr "Attiva tutti i suggerimenti"


This is very useful for us :)



If answer to my first question is yes, then it would affect the more
inflected languages quite badly - and very, very badly if the answer to my
second question is anything that encompasses more than one single toolbar,
or one single panel, or dialog, or menu. The exact maximum size of one
module will vary by language.

Also, would removing msgctxt really only affect those of us who translate
offline? Doesn't Pootle distinguish strings based on that as well?

In any case, as has been said time and time again: especially for short
strings (one or two words), each and every appearance of the string HAS TO
BE independently translatable, no matter if the string is same in English -
consider these for example:
"Number" - is it noun or verb?
"None" - which gender, number, case, etc. does it have?
"Open/Save/Print" - is it dialog title or the button?

These are just a few most basic examples off the top of my head. There are
many, many more such strings out there in the Estonian translation alone -
and Estonian doesn't even have the grammatical gender distinction that e.g.
the Slavic languages have. Ask translators of e.g. Slovenian, Bulgarian,
Polish or Russian how many times they have had to fight in various
projects for splitting strings that are identical in English, but need e.g.
different gender forms in translation.

Anyway, since you asked especially for offline usecases, here's mine: when
updating the translation after several thousands of words go fuzzy after
each major release, I use msgctxt to quickly identify the (basic) context
of the string - is it dialog title, label, menuitem with/without context,
etc. - and match it to suitable TM suggestion. If the location of the
string remains unclear from msgctxt, or if it's a new feature, I go find
the actual location based on Key-ID. If I'd have to find every last one of
the fuzzies via Key-ID, translating LibreOffice would take a lot more time
and effort, and cause way lot more frustration.

Best regards,
Mihkel
Estonian team



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[libreoffice-l10n] A question on Pootle's permissions

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Hi All

in Pootle is there the option to "assign" and single packet or folder to 
a specific user?



Thanks for the attention

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle - Typos in LibreOffice Master help/sbasic/shared.po

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Hi All

two typos found in the file in subject (LibreOffice Master 
help/sbasic/shared.po):


- string with comment: sEsmK

now it reads:
'Excutable code'

should correct to read:
'Executable code'

- string with comment: 3DVC6

now it reads:
'Runing'

should correct to read:
'Running'



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[libreoffice-l10n] HELP!!! Cannot upload a file in Pootle!

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Hi All

I cannot upload a po file in Pootle, 1 MB large. This error never 
occurred to me before.


The error:

'413 Request Entity Too Large'

This is a big problem for me, please help!!!

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] HELP!!! Cannot upload a file in Pootle!

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Il 15/07/2017 23:28, Mihkel Tõnnov ha scritto:

2017-07-16 0:24 GMT+03:00 Valter Mura :


Hi All

I cannot upload a po file in Pootle, 1 MB large. This error never occurred
to me before.

The error:

'413 Request Entity Too Large'

This is a big problem for me, please help!!!



Hi,

I assume you're trying to upload the whole libo_ui/libo_help folder as one
.zip? Try splitting it into two-three smaller parts - that has worked for
me.

Best regards,
Mihkel
Estonian team



Hi Mihkel

no, I'm trying to upload one single file 'shared.po' 1 mb in size. I 
need to upload it as it is, I cannot copy and paste all strings.


Could anybody help me? TIA

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Two questions for LO60 translation

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Il 27/09/2017 00:16, Martin Srebotnjak ha scritto:

Hi,

I am working on the LO60 translation and have two questions about some new
strings:


Hi,

are you working on Pootle? I cannot see neither LO 6.0 nor LO Master...



1) "Lock file is corrupted"
"The lock file is corrupted and probably empty. Opening the document
read-only and closing it again removes the corrupted lock file."

Is this about the "locked file" or about "the lock of a file"? Is the lock
corrupt (probably not "corrupted"?) or is the locked file corrupt? From the
sentence it seems the lock is corrupt and not the file itself.

2) "Spacing to Contents" has been changed to "Padding" in UI and help. Is
there any special reason for this? Is this meant as "Cell Padding" (as in
Microsoft products)?

Thanks, m.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sardinian localisations

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Il 16 ottobre 2017 14:22:23 CEST, Sardware  ha 
scritto:
>Hi,
>
>We are a group of volunteer translators into some languages of
>Sardinia. 
>We are exploring the possibility to localise LibreOffice into (mainly) 
>Sardinian. Since there is no language team created, we might be 
>interested in creating one.
>
>Thank you very much in advance.
>
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Hi

If we need any support for Pootle instructions, please contact me, too.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 50% of translations lost

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Il 10/12/2017 20:18, Sophie Gautier ha scritto:

Hi Berend,
Christian is still working on it. He will let you know when he has
finished. Sorry for the delay but it seems it takes time to right the
scripts.
Cheers
Sophie


Hi Sophie,

thanks for the efforts. We hope it will be before 18th Dec (UI string 
freeze).




Le 9 déc. 2017 14:52, "Berend Ytsma"  a écrit :

Hello,

Is there any progress, in recovering of the translation.

It's been two weeks ago.
It would be nice if it's been restored before christmass.

Greetings

Berend Ytsma
Frisian translator

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Sophie Gautier 
wrote:


Hi Berend

Le 25 nov. 2017 12:55, "Berend Ytsma"  a écrit :

Hello again,

Started translating again, cause I don't see any movement for repair.
I really hope that this will not happen the next time.
Loosing 50% of the translations is hard to get by.


Translation is not lost, Christian in copy of this mail is doing backup,
so you should not have to translate again if something went wrong.
Cheers
Sophie


Greetings

Berend

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Berend Ytsma  wrote:


Hello,.


It's been awhile.
The problem still exists

Would it be possible to restore a backup over it so that the translation
is wome what back up to normal level?


Greetings

Berend Ytsma
Frisian Translator

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Sophie  wrote:


Hi Berend,
Le 09/10/2017 à 16:03, Berend Ytsma a écrit :

Hello,

With the latest update, Frisian has lost about 50% of it translations.
While I look at others they only lost about 10%.

I find it a big difference.
Is there something that can be done about it?
This will set me almost a year back in translation time.


Could you be more specific, how do you know 50% of your translation is
lost and 10% for others? Translation is not lost, there are backups, so
what do you mean by 'lost'? Which version is concerned compared to which
one?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 6.0 New Features video: script for translation

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Il 24/01/2018 14:03, Mike Saunders ha scritto:

Hi everyone,

So LibreOffice 6.0 is due to be released on Weds 31 January, and as
usual I've made a video demonstrating some of the new features. I've put
the script on the wiki, so if anyone wants to make a translation, I can
add subtitles before the video goes public on release day:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/6.0_New_Features_Script

Thanks very much in advance for your help!



Italian done!

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[libreoffice-l10n] New strings in UI and Help Master

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Hi All

I notice new strings in UI and Help. For which version are they intended 
to? 6.1?


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New strings in UI and Help Master

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Il 05/03/2018 20:29, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos ha scritto:

Yes, “master” means 6.1 right now.



Thank you Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Breaking News!... Help pages can be edited directly in gerrit.

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Hi Olivier

This is a great news!

I'm sure I'll collaborate on it in order to fix some typos :)

Ciao


Il 6 aprile 2018 03:15:11 CEST, Olivier Hallot  
ha scritto:
>Hi L10N Community! Breaking news!
>
>Help pages can be edited directly in gerrit, all editions done in your
>browser.
>
>This means that edition of textual XML is possible with automatic
>generation of a patch submitted to gerrit. Therefore, English source
>help files can be edited or corrected directly in master and with
>security and peer review provided by TDF security infra.  Such
>capability will be extremely handy for ad-hoc correction of typos and
>linguistic mistakes we often do in English, as the LibreOffice project
>is developed by many non-English native speakers.
>
>This capacity will let help writers a direct access to patching without
>having to download and build LibreOffice and its help. Although the
>Help
>XML knowledge is still need to correctly write a help page, some of our
>skilled NL leaders and translators can now fix typos directly, without
>passing by the lengthy process of reporting typos, building help and
>more.
>
>Please see a tutorial on editing help source files in our wiki page:
>
>https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GerritEditing
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] "Sign Signature Line" in last translation update

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Il 18/04/2018 14:47, Sophie ha scritto:

Hi Olivier,
Le 18/04/2018 à 13:20, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

Hi

I'm interested to have some light on what is this $subject. Can someone
help me?


You should have it here:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83877
There is a screen shot in the release notes too.


Which is in: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/6.1#Signature_Lines


Thanks Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fixing new spell out numbering styles in LibreOffice 6.1

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Il 03/05/2018 18:57, Németh László ha scritto:

Hi,

LibreOffice 6.1 will support “spell out” numbering styles of OOXML (One,
Two...; First, Second..., 1st, 2nd...),
as you can see in the following screen cast (only English, French and
German examples):

  https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4 


Hi Laszlo, All




My questions to the native language speakers:

1. Are these numbers correct in your language?

You can check here, too: https://numbertext.github.io/
index.html#testimonials


For Italian, from 1 to 10 there is a '$1' before the name of the number 
which is not correct.
Also, we need to check all variants, I noticed some missed letter 
(double l) in some ordinals


Are the ordinals generated automatically?



2. Do we need to change the default format etc. according to the normal
usage of your country/language variant?


For Italian, the default format is ok.



For example, in the recent implementation, British English and American
English differ with the “and”

101 -> “One hundred and one”: en-AU, en-GB, en-IE, en-NZ
101 -> “One hundred one”: en-US etc.

3. Is it enough to support only a single gender in Spanish etc. languages
to cover common outline and page number usage in publishing?

Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph One, or simply One (normal usage
in English outline numbering)
First Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph (less common in English, but
default numbering styles cover this, too)


For Italian, if we consider a simple sorting, we can use only one gender 
(male), but if we refer to all types, we need the two ones, male and female:


Book = Libro, male
Part = Parte, female
Chapter = Capitolo, male
Section = Sezione, female
Page = Pagina, female
Paragraph = Paragrafo, male

(Note: This is the standard and present translation. There was a 
discussion in our list concerning a different translation for the types 
above, not important here.)




Note: there is a plan to use similar spell out formats in currency and date
formats of Writer, typical in contracts and invoices in several
languages. These formats are only supported in Calc yet by the NUMBERTEXT
Calc extension (or also in Writer macros via the new
com.sun.star.linguistic2.NumberText
service).



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[libreoffice-l10n] New projects Help and UI Master in Pootle

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Hi All

New projects, as per subject, appeared in Pootle, and I see a new project 6.1, 
too.

Which project does Master correspond to? I suppose 6.2, which has obviously a 
different deadline than August 2018.

Is it correct?

TIA

Ciao
Valter 
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