KX-T: cable only quote
Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? 8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang box at each location, plenum cable requirement. quote would include: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 jacks). other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 jack fields- (eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) don't waste time on this, but rounded to the thousand should make a guess easier.. thanks folks, -larry / dallas _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device
Not particularily a panasonic question, but does anyone recall installing an on-hold message / music device prior to 1996 that was remotely programmable via modem? If so, can you provide me with the model/manufacture? Thank you, Dan _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: KX-TEM824
Hello my dears, please, i'd like to know if i can do SMDR(station message detail recording)printing with KX-TEM824 when i connect it to the PC/printer via USB cable. Any help will be very appreciate. I have already install the KX-TE Maintenance Console and it runs very well. THANK YOU. ___ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
About $8000 would be my estimate here. CPE on the rack and all patch panels as I read it. I would just be providing the jack and cable material. I priced out 5e Plenum. Carmen -Original Message- From: Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 04:42:53 -0500 Subject: KX-T: cable only quote Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? 8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang box at each location, plenum cable requirement. quote would include: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 jacks). other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 jack fields- (eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) don't waste time on this, but rounded to the thousand should make a guess easier.. thanks folks, -larry / dallas _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: KX-T206HBX
I gave up programming through a phone years ago and refuse to go back. The client would either have to upgrade or I would pass. Carmen -Original Message- From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:34:14 +0300 Subject: Re: KX-T: KX-T206HBX You can program the 206 through 21 ext. with dtmf tones. pass 6206206# enter programming 6206# exit -speed #00 [AA]tel number AA: 00-79 -pulse - tone #01[A][B] [A]:1-6 [B]: 0:pulse 1:tone -out CO1 #02[A][B] -out CO2 #03[A][B] -in CO1 #04[A][B] -in CO2 #05[A][B] -doorphone#06[A][B] [A]:1-6 [B]:0: no 1:yes -COS #07[A][B] [A]:1-6 [B]:0: no 1:yes -TRS2 #08 [A] number -TRS3 #09[A] number [A] 0-9 -fax #12[A] for ext 26 [A]: enable [B]: disable _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
10 Thousand as a quick guess 1000 for jacks and face plates 4000 for cable 5000 for labor Larry wrote: >Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? > >8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang >box at each location, plenum cable requirement. > >quote would include: > >14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable >80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 >jacks). >other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 >jack fields- >(eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) > >don't waste time on this, but rounded to the thousand should make a >guess easier.. > >thanks folks, > >-larry / dallas > > > > > >_ >KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ >Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > > > > -- Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I'll show you a man who can't get his pants off, or on -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006 _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
At 05:42 AM 5/18/2006, Larry wrote: >Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? > >8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang >box at each location, plenum cable requirement. > >quote would include: > >14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable >80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 >jacks). >other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 >jack fields- >(eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) Half easy at wholesale 14,000 feet of cable cost about $2800.00 80 faceplates with 2 jacks . 800.00 80 hours of labor Now, how many J-hooks do you need at $2 each, spaced 4-6 feet apart, and do you need certification at $15/jack? Carl Navarro _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: KX-TEM824
At 06:14 AM 5/18/2006, Seraphin nzima wrote: >Hello my dears, > >please, i'd like to know if i can do SMDR(station >message detail recording)printing with KX-TEM824 when >i connect it to the PC/printer via USB cable. >Any help will be very appreciate. Piece of cake. Just not in real time LOL Serial to the PC and USB to the printer. The freeware package of the day is at www.mft.com/phonelogger. It should work on the 824. Carl Navarro _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: KX-T206HBX
At 07:09 AM 5/18/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I gave up programming through a phone years ago and refuse to go >back. The client would either have to upgrade or I would pass. >Carmen Can you send me a list of your passed customers? Yesterday I changed a name on a TD system. Hardly worth dragging out the laptop for a 2 minute job. Carl > >-Original Message- >From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kxt@kxthelp.com >Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:34:14 +0300 >Subject: Re: KX-T: KX-T206HBX > > >You can program the 206 through 21 ext. with dtmf tones. >pass 6206206# enter programming <> _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Larry: In my area, my competition would tell you $800. That's what they told a customer of mine, and complained about how we ran the wire. We weren't finished running the cables!!! Needless to say he bought the system from them, and promptly went out of business. Two ways to figure this: 1. figure your man hours and materials cost, and then your markup above that, don't forget what your insurance costs are. 2. figure per drop, using the above costs to help determine your job. Final Note: At present we charge $55/drop, we had done a job that we bid against multiple sub-contractors, with one company getting the state bid as general contractor. They subbed us. We bid against 4 companies and got only one building of a large college campus. We bid $45/drop, and got the building no one wanted to touch, the pool and gym complex, with 120 drops. This included certification of the cables. We had to re-bid at $40/drop no test, since we didn't get enough of the buildings to pay for the Pentascanner tester, then at $5000.00 to certify the cable. As it was it took us 2 weeks to wire that building, every one else was done with the project and they were waiting on us. I to this day have no clue how they made money, unless they hired monkeys, and paid them in bananas. Summary: So if you are competitively bidding, be prepared to break even at best. If it's just your company, and you are looking to give a fair price, the two methods I gave should be a good guideline. Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device
At 05:49 AM 5/18/2006, Dan O'Neill wrote: >Not particularily a panasonic question, but does anyone recall >installing an on-hold message / music device prior to 1996 that was >remotely programmable via modem? If so, can you provide me with the >model/manufacture? And you want one because? This was probably not made prior to 2000, but try http://www.premtech.com/product/detail/index-3-26.html Premier Technologies made some other units. I also recall going to an Office Depot and they used some brand, but I couldn't remember the year. Carl Navarro _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Larry: so if I was doing the job: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 jacks). other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 jack fields- (eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) that's 160 drops , so, 160x$55/drop=$8,800 but plenum costs 3x as much here than PVC PVC is $56/box around here, plus shipping 14000x0.15/ft=$2100 in wire alone jacks 160, + plates two port (80) 160x$3=$480, 80x2=$160, that's 640 so off the top you got, 3-4K if materials and man hours(40). so doubling it would give you 8K, but that's in my area. Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Fw: cable only quote
Randy: I need to get those prices for jacks! Labor is almost there, cost of living less here, so my techs ring in at 11 & 14/hr, plus burden, and they pack their lunch. Remember Larry stated plenum on this, so recalc your wire. So, yeah JosA/B would be nice I guess, se habla? Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Canadian Pricing: 14000 feet Essex Cat 5e plenum at $192 per box = $2688 160 Panduit Cat 5e jacks at 5.01 per jack = $801.60 80 Panduit faceplates @ 1.67 = 133.60 Total Material = $3623.50 Minimum markup at 20% and add taxes. Material sell price would be $4652.57 Minimum on labour would be 160 x 0.5 X $55 would be $4400 Total minimum would be $9052.57 This does not include difficulties, j-hooks, certification, labels on cables, nor organizing drops numerically within rooms. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:43 AM To: kxt@kxthelp.com Subject: KX-T: cable only quote Anyone have any ballpark nunbers for a building owner prewire like this? 8'-4" drop ceiling, electrician will stub out (3/4" conduit) single gang box at each location, plenum cable requirement. quote would include: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 jacks). other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 jack fields- (eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) don't waste time on this, but rounded to the thousand should make a guess easier.. thanks folks, -larry / dallas _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
We just finished about 70,000 feet of Cat 5e pulls and over 500 runs. I don't have the costs for this yet, but $55 per drop would mean my guys would be paid minimum wages. Based on pricing one month ago, my material cost-per-run approx $26.00 This does not include J-hooks. Now if I add labour: -running the wire -routing the wire as required at the jackfield end -terminating both ends -basic copper testing -labeling jacks at both ends This only leaves me about 20-25 minutes per run (assuming minimal markup of materials). In our area, runs are quoted around 120-150. If we do them based on T&M, they usually come in about half. (Vancouver Canada) We use Panduit jacks and materials for our installs - we are certified and have the best results with them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Subject: Re: KX-T: cable only quote Larry: so if I was doing the job: 14000 ft of cat 5 plenum cable 80 single gang plates, each with two cat 5 jacks (data 1 & data 2 - 160 jacks). other end terminated to two customer provided rack mounted cat5 (110) 96 jack fields- (eighty "data1" jacks to one, and eighty "data2" jacks to other) that's 160 drops , so, 160x$55/drop=$8,800 but plenum costs 3x as much here than PVC PVC is $56/box around here, plus shipping 14000x0.15/ft=$2100 in wire alone jacks 160, + plates two port (80) 160x$3=$480, 80x2=$160, that's 640 so off the top you got, 3-4K if materials and man hours(40). so doubling it would give you 8K, but that's in my area. Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Ok... they would freak at that price here. But, that's Eastern Shore mentality. 120-160 a drop would be horrendous. Since they get Billy-Bob and Bubba to run the "wiaere". Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Really! I think 8 to 10k is a normal range of quotes. What would be a good solid quote in your area? Carmen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:18:28 EDT Subject: Re: KX-T: cable only quote Ok... they would freak at that price here. But, that's Eastern Shore mentality. 120-160 a drop would be horrendous. Since they get Billy-Bob and Bubba to run the "wiaere". Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Have you checked the price of cable lately ??? Non-Plenum cable has shot up to $99.00+ a box, Plenum is almost $200.00 a box (wholesale) Retail is more. Fuel is a $3.10 gal Then there is labor at $45.00 per man (Union Shop) Cable runs at 150 - 180 per run including jack and termination each end with cable verification is where its at. WSB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Subject: Re: KX-T: cable only quote Ok... they would freak at that price here. But, that's Eastern Shore mentality. 120-160 a drop would be horrendous. Since they get Billy-Bob and Bubba to run the "wiaere". Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 05/17/2006 _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
To all, Your response amazed me, I thought I would be lucky to get one reply! Everyone was right on with the materials, even noting the little addons. But more amazing was how close everyone was to the same number (what's 10% anyhow). I spent a few hours scaling a print and pushing everything thru the spreadsheet and ended up at $10K too. Seemed high to me, I remember we used to do two floors of a high rise office bldg for that. And $75/drop was the norm. Again, a big thank you to all for taking the time to reply. -larry / dallas _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device
Carl Navarro wrote: >At 05:49 AM 5/18/2006, Dan O'Neill wrote: > > >>Not particularily a panasonic question, but does anyone recall >>installing an on-hold message / music device prior to 1996 that was >>remotely programmable via modem? If so, can you provide me with the >>model/manufacture? >> >> > > >And you want one because? > > >This was probably not made prior to 2000, but try >http://www.premtech.com/product/detail/index-3-26.html > >Premier Technologies made some other units. I also recall going to >an Office Depot and they used some brand, but I couldn't remember the year. > >Carl Navarro > > > There were a lot of tel-a-talkers around too, but only banks and loan sharks could afford them ;-) -larry _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Cablestogo is currently selling 1000 ft boxes of cat5e PVC for 68.52. They're also selling Plenum cable for $227.25, so your price for plenum cable is better. I have no affiliation with Cablestogo other than as a customer. Wolfgang Boernert wrote: >Have you checked the price of cable lately ??? > >Non-Plenum cable has shot up to $99.00+ a box, Plenum is almost $200.00 a >box (wholesale) Retail is more. > > > _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
> Cablestogo is currently selling 1000 ft boxes of cat5e PVC for 68.52. > They're also selling Plenum cable for $227.25, so your price for plenum > cable is better. > > I have no affiliation with Cablestogo other than as a customer. > Jenne is still selling Cat 5e PVC in blue (Coleman Cable 350mhz) for $62, and Plenum is now at $207. The Cat-3 Plenum is up to $83. Carl . _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: Survey - Sales Agent Commission
Hello All ! I would like to take a survey about commissions paid to sales agent. Let me start by talking about the following categories. Referrals 1st Line Sales Complete Sales Referrals - Someone or a staff member has spoken to a potential customer and referred us to them. 1st Line Sales - Agent sells the customer on your system but you go back to discuss optional and "Sign" the estimate Complete Sales - Agent sells system, brings in a signed quote including any financing paperwork. --- Based on the above, what do you pay as commission to the agent ? Please add any other categories or thinks you do. Thanks ! Wolfgang Boernert Network Telephone Company - _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Survey - Sales Agent Commission
On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:27:21 -0400, Wolfgang Boernert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wolfgang - here is how it works in our neck of the woods > Referrals > If they give you a hot lead that gives a sale = 5% of the price > excl taxes Staff excluded as it is a part of their job HOWEVER a meal voucher depending on the sale would be a good incentive or similar - basically a thank you. > 1st Line Sales > 5% of sale (as you would be doing most of the work) > Complete Sales > If they bring you a cheque from the customer = 10% of the > price excl taxes The exception is when the agent invoices the client direct then he/she buys at the agreed price. Also the agent provides a tax invoice and is paid after you have deposited the money from the client. Hope that helps... > Referrals - Someone or a staff member has spoken to a potential customer > and referred us to them. > > 1st Line Sales - Agent sells the customer on your system but you go back > to > discuss optional and "Sign" the estimate > > Complete Sales - Agent sells system, brings in a signed quote including > any financing paperwork. Paul Edgar _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Old remotely programmable message device
Dan O'Neill wrote: > >> There were a lot of tel-a-talkers around too, but only banks and loan >> sharks could afford them ;-) >> >> -larry > > > Any idea who the manufacturer was? > > dan > > > from model tat-100 "nel-tech labs, inc" 10 londonderry commons londonderry nh, 03053 i think the al-500 was one of theirs too. both used ram chip storage, the tat could be loaded by handset, external cassette player, or external line control box. the al had a cassette player that would load the memory on power up... was an "announce" only box. i just googled and they are still around- http://www.nel-techlabs.com/ most of our customers are using boxes from service bureaus that either send a cassette or cd a week/ or month (lowcost), or use a proprietary dial up scheme double speed to a cassette that then loaded the memory (higher cost). voice talent and music fees are not cheap. Distribs usually have some glossys for moh bureaus. You might look at a pc with a sound card (1v line out) you could push a wav or mp3 to it by dialup or thru a 'net connection, proly a lot less that the programmable moh boxes. Or the cust could record their own with the pc, car dealers seem to like that. -larry _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
How would you all price each cable run when you are pulling 3 cables to each location? Lets assume that the Patch Panel and the Voice Frame are within the same room and close to each other. Would you still price it out at 120 to 180 per Run, or would you discount the cost based upon the labor pulling 3 at a time to each jack? In other words, if I had 20 locations, each with 2 5e & 1 Voice, that would be a total of 60 runs. But the actual labor would be 20 pulls, 3 at a time. How would you price this? 120 x 60 or 250 x 20 for example. Carmen -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Boernert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:28:54 -0400 Subject: Re: KX-T: cable only quote Have you checked the price of cable lately ??? Non-Plenum cable has shot up to $99.00+ a box, Plenum is almost $200.00 a box (wholesale) Retail is more. Fuel is a $3.10 gal Then there is labor at $45.00 per man (Union Shop) Cable runs at 150 - 180 per run including jack and termination each end with cable verification is where its at. WSB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Subject: Re: KX-T: cable only quote Ok... they would freak at that price here. But, that's Eastern Shore mentality. 120-160 a drop would be horrendous. Since they get Billy-Bob and Bubba to run the "wiaere". Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 05/17/2006 _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: KX-TEM824
Ser, I just curious, doesn't these eu systems come with any installation manuals at all? That seems to be a basic question that the manual could quickly answer. On our TDA systems we need to use the RS232 output for SMDR data. Not there on the USB. At least that is what my manuals state. I never tried it. Carmen -Original Message- From: Seraphin nzima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: kxt@kxthelp.com Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:14:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: KX-T: KX-TEM824 Hello my dears, please, i'd like to know if i can do SMDR(station message detail recording)printing with KX-TEM824 when i connect it to the PC/printer via USB cable. Any help will be very appreciate. I have already install the KX-TE Maintenance Console and it runs very well. THANK YOU. ___ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
Pre wire for a key system $800. no matter how many drops. I charge $55 a drop for Cat5e, but I hardly get any jobs... probably $35-$40 a drop is the normal whoring price, but I loose money at that price. I have other competitors charging $500 over cost to install a key system, other charge 1/3 markup, labor included. But you have to understand they are 3rd and 4th generation Eastern Shorebilly, they got grandma's house, no mortgage, and taxes cost them 2k a year, so they work for nothing. They have 1 tech they pay well, and the rest is either family or $6/hr wire grunts. Certification in wiring technologies means nothing here, if you can yank wire, you're certified. Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: cable only quote
In a message dated 5/18/2006 1:14:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Cablestogo is currently selling 1000 ft boxes of cat5e PVC for 68.52. > They're also selling Plenum cable for $227.25, so your price for plenum > cable is better. > > I have no affiliation with Cablestogo other than as a customer. > Jenne is still selling Cat 5e PVC in blue (Coleman Cable 350mhz) for $62, and Plenum is now at $207. The Cat-3 Plenum is up to $83. SO, is anybody buying stock in wire manufacturing this week??? Just a thought. Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Survey - Sales Agent Commission
Wolfgang: Based on your categories, I am CFO, COO, CEO, Pres., Owner, Head of Sales, Lead Salesman, chief cook, bottle washer, accounting office, accounts payable, accounts receivable, estimate originator, underwriter, undertaker, and overlord. If one of my two techs, brings in a job, great, and if we get the bid, they get a paycheck for the week, and we stay in business. The margins are so tight here, we fight tooth and nail to be working and hope to be profitable. We have no sales agent save for me pounding the pavement when I can. I don't get paid commission, I get a paycheck less than my employees, and all of us bust hard every day. We just did an addition of 28 phones, 4 cards, tails and blocks, rewired the jacks the wiring monkeys messed up, S/W upgraded the switch, punched down the feeder cable to the new section, activated the phones, printed faceplates. Then went to a service call, all with the Hot Rods running all over our town. Got home at 7:30 to a very ill wife, took care of the animals dinner, checked on my wife, took the goats to the barn, now I'm doing paperwork, talking to my daughter in IM at college about her sick mother, have to cook dinner yet and provided you this diatribe. And tomorrow I do it again. How much money is that worth? Sorry, I'm a little tired and bitchy, please excuse me. Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Fw: cable only quote
Interesting the wage differences. My lowest paid person, green to the industry, right work ethics, gets paid $12 per hour. My top is $25.00 per hour with the other techs around $18 per hour. My techs get their birthday off with pay, and 3 weeks paid vacation after 5 years - 2 weeks after one year. They also get about 11 paid stats per year (actually 9 + 2 extra given) In order to do data cabling in our area, you must be a licensed electrical contractor, and have a $2000 bond posted. You can hire helpers if you wish, but we do not wish. We train our staff and invest in them. Most have had fiber optic training, and about 50% have taken Panasonic factory training courses. We also pay 50% of their extended medical and dental coverage. A typical house in our area runs $300-350k. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kxt@kxthelp.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Fw: cable only quote Randy: I need to get those prices for jacks! Labor is almost there, cost of living less here, so my techs ring in at 11 & 14/hr, plus burden, and they pack their lunch. Remember Larry stated plenum on this, so recalc your wire. So, yeah JosA/B would be nice I guess, se habla? Steve L. Martin Pres./CEO _Surf Side Sound, Inc._ (http://www.surfsidesound.com/) _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
