Re: Mainframe environment on AWS
Some comments inserted, very basic ones though, but overall, you can do pretty much all of what you require... On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:16:30 +1300, Laurence Chiu wrote: >That's very interesting. > >Looks like the personal edition might be a good tool to get new developers >familiar with the environment. And then maybe Enterprise edition if we want >to offload some development work from the host. The PE version is only limited to one user so possibly not ideal for a company. The EE version does have single user licensing if you want to go that way but also multiple users and can work in tandem with Rational tokens for CPU licensing. In fact with the EE version you could have multiple users who could spin up their own z/OS systems whenever they want or you could just have one larger system with multiple users. It also allows you to extract CICS and DB2 artifacts from your Z so you can even narrow it down further as to what each user would have in their z/OS image. There are quite a few possibilities there > >However is not clear to me how you would do applications development on the >platform if you were using a third party source code management product. >Would you be able to install that on the environment or have to download >all the source code and copy books to this environment to be able to do >test compiles? > Many companies offer licensing for their products on the ZD&T platform, it's just a question of asking them. You would probably have to copy the SCM data over to the ZD&T environment in order to use it unless there is a way of, say, network connectivity to it. Alternatively, just move your whole development environment over to ZD&T return the development LPAR resources back to production :-) >Also does all IBM software run on the environment or only a subset? > Practically all z/OS software runs in this environment however there are some limitations to the emulation side, not everything Z can be emulated although IBM have performed an admirable task here. As a ZD&T user you would also be licensed to use the ADCD stack which includes nearly all IBM middleware products and more: http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.SHTML(A23DREAD)' >Also one of the projects we would be looking at is spinning up our first >sysplex. It would be cool to be able to do that using ZDG&T Parallel >Sysplex but the application we want to test in this Plex is not from IBM >and I have no idea how you would get it to run. The Parallel Sysplex offering requires that you run z/VM, one of the ares where zPDT cannot perform all emulation. Documented here: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.4/com.ibm.zsys.rdt.guide.adcd.doc/topics/c_node_zvm_adcd.html Once again, for a 3rd party product, you would just need to talk to the supplier about licensing. There are a lot of resources on the web from IBM about ZD&T. Sebastian > >On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:44 PM Sebastian Welton wrote: > >> They are pretty much the same product, ZD&T uses zPDT as the underlying >> emulator but depending upon which version you use, has many enhancements to >> provide a DevOps experience. As already pointed out, zPDT is only for ISVs >> and ZD&T is available to commercial entities but you are bound by the usage >> which tends to be only development, testing and education: from IBM: >> >> >> It creates an environment for mainframe application demonstration, >> development, testing, and employee education without Z mainframe hardware >> >> ZD&T cannot be used for production workloads of any kind, nor robust >> development workloads, production module builds, preproduction testing, >> stress testing, or performance testing. >> >> >> There are 3 versions of ZD&T: >> >> ZD&T Personal Edition - this enables a single user to run an IBM® Z >> distribution on a personal computer. >> ZD&T Enterprise Edition - this enables enterprises to host an IBM Z >> distribution on low-cost Intel-based x86 machines. Enterprise Edition >> provides a web-based interface. You can extract, deploy, and manage the >> application images from an existing Z or ADCD packages. >> ZD&T Parallel Sysplex - can be used to enable a Sysplex environment that >> is running within z/VM >> >> zPDT on the other hand, provide qualified PartnerWorld Independent >> Software Vendors (ISVs) with z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE and associated middleware >> products. You need to go through an approval process in order to get it. >> >> Sebastian >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IB
Re: SMF exit IEFU086 work area size
When is this area obtained and freed? I.e. is this area unique for each invocation of IEFU86, or unique for each individual record, or "global". I'm wondering if I can put something in it on one invocation of IEFU86 and access it in a different invocation. Standard response, which applies here too: if it doesn't say that you are allowed to do so then do not assume that you can. The area is not unique to your exit routine. This should not be a surprise given that there can be many exit routines associated with a given exit, and SMF is not in charge of tracking what those exit routines are. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF exit IEFU086 work area size
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 7:26 AM Peter Relson wrote: > > When is this area obtained and freed? I.e. is this area unique for each > invocation of IEFU86, or unique for each individual record, or "global". > I'm wondering if I can put something in it on one invocation of IEFU86 and > access it in a different invocation. > > > Standard response, which applies here too: if it doesn't say that you are > allowed to do so then do not assume that you can. > OK, I'll remember that. "That which is not specifically allowed is forbidden." > The area is not unique to your exit routine. This should not be a surprise > given that there can be many exit routines associated with a given exit, > and SMF is not in charge of tracking what those exit routines are. > > Peter Relson > z/OS Core Technology Design > > -- I find television very educational. The minute somebody turns it on, I go into the library and read a good book -- Groucho Marx Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF exit IEFU086 work area size
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:30:42 -0500, John McKown wrote: >OK, I'll remember that. "That which is not specifically allowed is >forbidden." More like "That which is not documented as working in a particular way cannot be assumed to work in that way, even if testing seems to show that it works that way." One can never realistically test all possible permutations. One possible permutation that can never be tested is the change that is made in the future. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe environment on AWS
> Is there a support forum for zPDT and/or zD&T? You might check "groups.yahoo.com/group/z1090" for zPDT, although I believe some zD&T users appear there also. Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe environment on AWS
Yep and everyone is great On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:52 AM Bill Ogden wrote: > > Is there a support forum for zPDT and/or zD&T? > > You might check "groups.yahoo.com/group/z1090" for zPDT, although I > believe some zD&T users appear there also. > > Bill > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF exit IEFU086 work area size
@Peter, it is not so documented, but is it safe to assume that one has exclusive use of a given work area for the duration of the exit routine's execution? In other words, that the work area might be reused later, but is not shared among several tasks or processors? The documentation does not say that, but a "global" or "static" work area would be fairly useless, so it seems like a reasonable assumption. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMF exit IEFU086 work area size When is this area obtained and freed? I.e. is this area unique for each invocation of IEFU86, or unique for each individual record, or "global". I'm wondering if I can put something in it on one invocation of IEFU86 and access it in a different invocation. Standard response, which applies here too: if it doesn't say that you are allowed to do so then do not assume that you can. The area is not unique to your exit routine. This should not be a surprise given that there can be many exit routines associated with a given exit, and SMF is not in charge of tracking what those exit routines are. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe environment on AWS
Yep I agree with Sebastian . The Redbooks are great and accurate for installation and maintaining z/PDT On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:06 AM Sebastian Welton wrote: > Some comments inserted, very basic ones though, but overall, you can do > pretty much all of what you require... > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:16:30 +1300, Laurence Chiu > wrote: > > >That's very interesting. > > > >Looks like the personal edition might be a good tool to get new developers > >familiar with the environment. And then maybe Enterprise edition if we > want > >to offload some development work from the host. > > The PE version is only limited to one user so possibly not ideal for a > company. The EE version does have single user licensing if you want to go > that way but also multiple users and can work in tandem with Rational > tokens for CPU licensing. In fact with the EE version you could have > multiple users who could spin up their own z/OS systems whenever they want > or you could just have one larger system with multiple users. It also > allows you to extract CICS and DB2 artifacts from your Z so you can even > narrow it down further as to what each user would have in their z/OS image. > There are quite a few possibilities there > > > > >However is not clear to me how you would do applications development on > the > >platform if you were using a third party source code management product. > >Would you be able to install that on the environment or have to download > >all the source code and copy books to this environment to be able to do > >test compiles? > > > > Many companies offer licensing for their products on the ZD&T platform, > it's just a question of asking them. You would probably have to copy the > SCM data over to the ZD&T environment in order to use it unless there is a > way of, say, network connectivity to it. Alternatively, just move your > whole development environment over to ZD&T return the development LPAR > resources back to production :-) > > >Also does all IBM software run on the environment or only a subset? > > > > Practically all z/OS software runs in this environment however there are > some limitations to the emulation side, not everything Z can be emulated > although IBM have performed an admirable task here. As a ZD&T user you > would also be licensed to use the ADCD stack which includes nearly all IBM > middleware products and more: > http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.SHTML(A23DREAD)' > > >Also one of the projects we would be looking at is spinning up our first > >sysplex. It would be cool to be able to do that using ZDG&T Parallel > >Sysplex but the application we want to test in this Plex is not from IBM > >and I have no idea how you would get it to run. > > The Parallel Sysplex offering requires that you run z/VM, one of the ares > where zPDT cannot perform all emulation. Documented here: > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.4/com.ibm.zsys.rdt.guide.adcd.doc/topics/c_node_zvm_adcd.html > Once again, for a 3rd party product, you would just need to talk to the > supplier about licensing. > > There are a lot of resources on the web from IBM about ZD&T. > > Sebastian > > > > > >On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:44 PM Sebastian Welton > wrote: > > > >> They are pretty much the same product, ZD&T uses zPDT as the underlying > >> emulator but depending upon which version you use, has many > enhancements to > >> provide a DevOps experience. As already pointed out, zPDT is only for > ISVs > >> and ZD&T is available to commercial entities but you are bound by the > usage > >> which tends to be only development, testing and education: from IBM: > >> > >> > >> It creates an environment for mainframe application demonstration, > >> development, testing, and employee education without Z mainframe > hardware > >> > >> ZD&T cannot be used for production workloads of any kind, nor robust > >> development workloads, production module builds, preproduction testing, > >> stress testing, or performance testing. > >> > >> > >> There are 3 versions of ZD&T: > >> > >> ZD&T Personal Edition - this enables a single user to run an IBM® Z > >> distribution on a personal computer. > >> ZD&T Enterprise Edition - this enables enterprises to host an IBM Z > >> distribution on low-cost Intel-based x86 machines. Enterprise Edition > >> provides a web-based interface. You can extract, deploy, and manage the > >> application images from an existing Z or ADCD packages. > >> ZD&T Parallel Sysplex - can be used to enable a Sysplex environment that > >> is running within z/VM > >> > >> zPDT on the other hand, provide qualified PartnerWorld Independent > >> Software Vendors (ISVs) with z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE and associated middleware > >> products. You need to go through an approval process in order to get it. > >> > >> Sebastian > >> > >> -- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists
Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? Do you just have to open the directory and count? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Frank: We are in Partnerworld , this one is new to me . I *ASSUME ( I know ) that the customer has to have the Linux hardware for the Deploys , etc. Can someone from IBM confirm this ? My assumption is you could run on another host environment ... Scott On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:42 PM Frank Swarbrick wrote: > Starting a new thread...just because. > So does anyone have an experience actually using this? > Do you have Enterprise Edition? > Does each developer have a zD&T "instance"? > Do you build an "image" from an existing mainframe z/OS environment and > then have the developers deploy that image to their personal instance? > What about testers? On > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.0/com.ibm.zsys.rdt.tools.user.guide.doc/topics/provisioning.html > is states "This process can be done by any application programmer or tester > on-demand whenever they need a new environment." That seems almost too > good to be true! > What if a developer needs to create new resources for their environment, > i.e. files, DB2 tables, IMS databases and PSBs, MQ queues et al? Do those > get created by system programmers on the source image and then deployed by > the developer to their personal instance, or what? > How much work is it to get data moved from the mainframe to a development > instance? > It all sounds great in theory, but I'd love to hear about some real world > usage. > > Frank > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
Kirk, I know TSO LISTDSI will provide a lot of information ...dir blocks used , max allocated ..wii this help ? Scott On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM Kirk Wolf wrote: > For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? > Do you just have to open the directory and count? > > Kirk Wolf > Dovetailed Technologies > http://dovetail.com > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
Thanks, but TSO commands are not the kind of programming interface that I can use. Looking for an access method, generally callable service, etc. On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM scott Ford wrote: > Kirk, > > I know TSO LISTDSI will provide a lot of information ...dir blocks used , > max allocated ..wii this help ? > > Scott > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? > > Do you just have to open the directory and count? > > > > Kirk Wolf > > Dovetailed Technologies > > http://dovetail.com > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > > > > *IDMWORKS * > > Scott Ford > > z/OS Dev. > > > > > “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a > friend or collegue you demean yourself” > > > > www.idmworks.com > > scott.f...@idmworks.com > > Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog > > > > > > *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be > privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from > disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or > use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to > the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any > printout thereof.* > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
Isn't it in the DSCB? Possibly easier than counting. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 8:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks? For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? Do you just have to open the directory and count? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
Tried the CSI interface? I know it’s callable via REXX. Might be available via ASM. It’s doc’d in the SMS books On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:53 AM Kirk Wolf wrote: > Thanks, but TSO commands are not the kind of programming interface that I > can use. Looking for an access method, generally callable service, etc. > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM scott Ford wrote: > > > Kirk, > > > > I know TSO LISTDSI will provide a lot of information ...dir blocks used > , > > max allocated ..wii this help ? > > > > Scott > > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > > > For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? > > > Do you just have to open the directory and count? > > > > > > Kirk Wolf > > > Dovetailed Technologies > > > http://dovetail.com > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > *IDMWORKS * > > > > Scott Ford > > > > z/OS Dev. > > > > > > > > > > “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a > > friend or collegue you demean yourself” > > > > > > > > www.idmworks.com > > > > scott.f...@idmworks.com > > > > Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may > be > > privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from > > disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or > > use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you > have > > received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying > to > > the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any > > printout thereof.* > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Michael Babcock OneMain Financial z/OS Systems Programmer, Lead -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: configure zos explorer
I get the following error message IZE0106E connect failed with “Error to launch server on 192.86.32.184 using dameon running on port 4035” (192.86.32.64) 192.86.32.64 is the up address of the z/os system > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > In z/OS Explorer go to Window > Manage Connections. > > You should see CICS System Management with Cicsplex and CMCI > Under that is z/OS > There will be Ftp > z/OS Remote System > z/OSMF > > Click on z/OS Remote System and hit the Add button > > In that popup are the Remote Host IP address and Port. > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:09 AM Joseph Reichman > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> >> >> Would anyone know how to configure z/os explorer (gui client of debug tool) >> What I mean is were would I enter the Z/OS TCPIP ADDRESS AND/OR PORT # >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: configure zos explorer
Do you have the RSED task up and listening on port 4035? _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: configure zos explorer **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** I get the following error message IZE0106E connect failed with “Error to launch server on 192.86.32.184 using dameon running on port 4035” (192.86.32.64) 192.86.32.64 is the up address of the z/os system > On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > In z/OS Explorer go to Window > Manage Connections. > > You should see CICS System Management with Cicsplex and CMCI Under > that is z/OS There will be Ftp z/OS Remote System z/OSMF > > Click on z/OS Remote System and hit the Add button > > In that popup are the Remote Host IP address and Port. > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:09 AM Joseph Reichman > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> >> >> Would anyone know how to configure z/os explorer (gui client of debug >> tool) What I mean is were would I enter the Z/OS TCPIP ADDRESS AND/OR >> PORT # >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
On 10/11/2019 11:41 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? Do you just have to open the directory and count? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Kirk, If you have PDS in your shop, look at the code for the USAGE command. If not, grab it at cbttape.org, file 182. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: configure zos explorer
Not sure what that is I’ll look into it Thanks Joe Reichman 170-10 73 rd ave Fresh meadows NY 11366 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Jousma, David > <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Do you have the RSED task up and listening on port 4035? > > _ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Joseph Reichman > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: configure zos explorer > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > I get the following error message > > IZE0106E connect failed with “Error to launch server on 192.86.32.184 using > dameon running on port 4035” (192.86.32.64) > > 192.86.32.64 is the up address of the z/os system > > > > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >> >> In z/OS Explorer go to Window > Manage Connections. >> >> You should see CICS System Management with Cicsplex and CMCI Under >> that is z/OS There will be Ftp z/OS Remote System z/OSMF >> >> Click on z/OS Remote System and hit the Add button >> >> In that popup are the Remote Host IP address and Port. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:09 AM Joseph Reichman >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> Would anyone know how to configure z/os explorer (gui client of debug >>> tool) What I mean is were would I enter the Z/OS TCPIP ADDRESS AND/OR >>> PORT # >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> - >>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >>> IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> >> -- >> Wayne V. Bickerdike >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL > EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be > privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you > receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in > any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please > reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was > misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your > assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: configure zos explorer
Look in your SFEK* datasets (SYS1.FEK.SFEK* on my system). There is configuration settings that usually live in /etc, a fair amount of security setup for RSED and JMON started tasks. Then, you will need to configure the IPVSRV task that comes in the SIPV* datasets (SYS1.IPV.SIVP* on my system). This is the interface that z/explorer will use to communicate with DEBUG, Fault Analyzer, File Manager, and Application Performance Analyzer. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: configure zos explorer **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Not sure what that is I’ll look into it Thanks Joe Reichman 170-10 73 rd ave Fresh meadows NY 11366 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Jousma, David > <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Do you have the RSED task up and listening on port 4035? > > __ > ___ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: configure zos explorer > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > I get the following error message > > IZE0106E connect failed with “Error to launch server on 192.86.32.184 > using dameon running on port 4035” (192.86.32.64) > > 192.86.32.64 is the up address of the z/os system > > > > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >> >> In z/OS Explorer go to Window > Manage Connections. >> >> You should see CICS System Management with Cicsplex and CMCI Under >> that is z/OS There will be Ftp z/OS Remote System z/OSMF >> >> Click on z/OS Remote System and hit the Add button >> >> In that popup are the Remote Host IP address and Port. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:09 AM Joseph Reichman >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> Would anyone know how to configure z/os explorer (gui client of >>> debug >>> tool) What I mean is were would I enter the Z/OS TCPIP ADDRESS >>> AND/OR PORT # >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >>> IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> >> -- >> Wayne V. Bickerdike >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be > privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you > receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in > any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please > reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was > misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your > assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the add
Re: configure zos explorer
Corrected a typo... _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: configure zos explorer **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Look in your SFEK* datasets (SYS1.FEK.SFEK* on my system). There is configuration settings that usually live in /etc, a fair amount of security setup for RSED and JMON started tasks. Then, you will need to configure the IPVSRV task that comes in the SIPV* datasets (SYS1.IPV.SIPV* on my system). This is the interface that z/explorer will use to communicate with DEBUG, Fault Analyzer, File Manager, and Application Performance Analyzer. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: configure zos explorer **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Not sure what that is I’ll look into it Thanks Joe Reichman 170-10 73 rd ave Fresh meadows NY 11366 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Jousma, David > <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Do you have the RSED task up and listening on port 4035? > > __ > ___ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: configure zos explorer > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > I get the following error message > > IZE0106E connect failed with “Error to launch server on 192.86.32.184 > using dameon running on port 4035” (192.86.32.64) > > 192.86.32.64 is the up address of the z/os system > > > > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >> >> In z/OS Explorer go to Window > Manage Connections. >> >> You should see CICS System Management with Cicsplex and CMCI Under >> that is z/OS There will be Ftp z/OS Remote System z/OSMF >> >> Click on z/OS Remote System and hit the Add button >> >> In that popup are the Remote Host IP address and Port. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:09 AM Joseph Reichman >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> Would anyone know how to configure z/os explorer (gui client of >>> debug >>> tool) What I mean is were would I enter the Z/OS TCPIP ADDRESS >>> AND/OR PORT # >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >>> IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> >> -- >> Wayne V. Bickerdike >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be > privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you > receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in > any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please > reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was > misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your > assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > -
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The customer has to provide the host Linux environment. The images will vary depending on where you sourced your images. There is no magic on creating the customized environments. Someone needs to define the resources (IMS, tables, load modules,...). This could be the system programmer or the developer or tester. Think of it more as a pipeline where the each person does their part DBA theirs, etc.). Once you have the flavor of what you want you can copy the volumes for each user’s instance. Ideally you’ll have automation to recreate them. There are a set of tools as part of ZD&T that can assist I believe there is docker support as an alternative to running heavier weight VMs. Docket is interesting as it allows you to amortize the base image cost across multiple instances Matt Hogstrom +1 (919) 656-0564 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 08:42, scott Ford wrote: > > Frank: > > We are in Partnerworld , this one is new to me . I *ASSUME ( I know ) that > the customer has to have the Linux hardware for the Deploys , etc. > Can someone from IBM confirm this ? My assumption is you could run on > another host environment ... > > Scott > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:42 PM Frank Swarbrick >> wrote: >> >> Starting a new thread...just because. >> So does anyone have an experience actually using this? >> Do you have Enterprise Edition? >> Does each developer have a zD&T "instance"? >> Do you build an "image" from an existing mainframe z/OS environment and >> then have the developers deploy that image to their personal instance? >> What about testers? On >> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.0/com.ibm.zsys.rdt.tools.user.guide.doc/topics/provisioning.html >> is states "This process can be done by any application programmer or tester >> on-demand whenever they need a new environment." That seems almost too >> good to be true! >> What if a developer needs to create new resources for their environment, >> i.e. files, DB2 tables, IMS databases and PSBs, MQ queues et al? Do those >> get created by system programmers on the source image and then deployed by >> the developer to their personal instance, or what? >> How much work is it to get data moved from the mainframe to a development >> instance? >> It all sounds great in theory, but I'd love to hear about some real world >> usage. >> >> Frank >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > > -- > > > > *IDMWORKS * > > Scott Ford > > z/OS Dev. > > > > > “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a > friend or collegue you demean yourself” > > > > www.idmworks.com > > scott.f...@idmworks.com > > Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog > > > > > > *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be > privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from > disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or > use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to > the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any > printout thereof.* > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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So, we took a peek at licensing zD&T. We did a trial on it, and stood a couple instances up. As others have mentioned, it is the ADCD image, and has all products. The "problem" for us, is that we don’t have an all blue software stack.So to do anything meaningful, that might resemble what you are already running you'll have to roll-your-own image. IBM does provide utilities to clone a MF based image, and build a zD&T image.We happen to be all parallel sysplex. To keep things simple, I'd have to build a stand-alone environment to clone from, or go to the effort of building a VM environment on ZD&T, and then stand up an emulated CF, and LPAR. Then what about security? WE happen to be a CA-TSS shop, but even if you are a RACF shop you cannot just load your RACF database to the ZD&T image, otherwise nothing IBM provided will run since none of the tasks, etc would be the same names. So, then you are faced with basically reproducing your entire system environment in this space. While IBM allows you to use all of their products, we've found out that the other vendors aren’t quite so generous. The other big problem for us, is that we just don’t have the staffing at this time to provide all the care and feeding building and maintaining it will require. The other problem that we see is that an image that a developer spins up wont have the knowledge let alone sysprog access to start/stop regions, etc, etc, etc. IBM's answer was just give them the access, if they screw it up, just wipe it out, and reclone the image. The problem is you are asking developers to do things in this environment that they would have not access to do on the "real systems" and would generate endless calls to my team for support. About the only use case we can find is for DB2 development work, testing queries, table design, etc. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Z Development and Test Environment (zD&T) **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** The customer has to provide the host Linux environment. The images will vary depending on where you sourced your images. There is no magic on creating the customized environments. Someone needs to define the resources (IMS, tables, load modules,...). This could be the system programmer or the developer or tester. Think of it more as a pipeline where the each person does their part DBA theirs, etc.). Once you have the flavor of what you want you can copy the volumes for each user’s instance. Ideally you’ll have automation to recreate them. There are a set of tools as part of ZD&T that can assist I believe there is docker support as an alternative to running heavier weight VMs. Docket is interesting as it allows you to amortize the base image cost across multiple instances Matt Hogstrom +1 (919) 656-0564 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 08:42, scott Ford wrote: > > Frank: > > We are in Partnerworld , this one is new to me . I *ASSUME ( I know ) > that the customer has to have the Linux hardware for the Deploys , etc. > Can someone from IBM confirm this ? My assumption is you could run on > another host environment ... > > Scott > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:42 PM Frank Swarbrick >> >> wrote: >> >> Starting a new thread...just because. >> So does anyone have an experience actually using this? >> Do you have Enterprise Edition? >> Does each developer have a zD&T "instance"? >> Do you build an "image" from an existing mainframe z/OS environment >> and then have the developers deploy that image to their personal instance? >> What about testers? On >> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.0/com.ibm. >> zsys.rdt.tools.user.guide.doc/topics/provisioning.html >> is states "This process can be done by any application programmer or >> tester on-demand whenever they need a new environment." That seems >> almost too good to be true! >> What if a developer needs to create new resources for their >> environment, i.e. files, DB2 tables, IMS databases and PSBs, MQ >> queues et al? Do those get created by system programmers on the >> source image and then deployed by the developer to their personal instance, >> or what? >> How much work is it to get data moved from the mainframe to a >> development instance? >> It all sounds great in theory, but I'd love to hear about some real >> world usage. >> >> Frank >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /
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You just expressed all of my concerns. I personally would be happy to do a lot of "systemish" things in this environment, but I can't imagine it makes sense for most developers. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Z Development and Test Environment (zD&T) So, we took a peek at licensing zD&T. We did a trial on it, and stood a couple instances up. As others have mentioned, it is the ADCD image, and has all products. The "problem" for us, is that we don’t have an all blue software stack.So to do anything meaningful, that might resemble what you are already running you'll have to roll-your-own image. IBM does provide utilities to clone a MF based image, and build a zD&T image.We happen to be all parallel sysplex. To keep things simple, I'd have to build a stand-alone environment to clone from, or go to the effort of building a VM environment on ZD&T, and then stand up an emulated CF, and LPAR. Then what about security? WE happen to be a CA-TSS shop, but even if you are a RACF shop you cannot just load your RACF database to the ZD&T image, otherwise nothing IBM provided will run since none of the tasks, etc would be the same names. So, then you are faced with basically reproducing your entire system environment in this space. While IBM allows you to use all of their products, we've found out that the other vendors aren’t quite so generous. The other big problem for us, is that we just don’t have the staffing at this time to provide all the care and feeding building and maintaining it will require. The other problem that we see is that an image that a developer spins up wont have the knowledge let alone sysprog access to start/stop regions, etc, etc, etc. IBM's answer was just give them the access, if they screw it up, just wipe it out, and reclone the image. The problem is you are asking developers to do things in this environment that they would have not access to do on the "real systems" and would generate endless calls to my team for support. About the only use case we can find is for DB2 development work, testing queries, table design, etc. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Z Development and Test Environment (zD&T) **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** The customer has to provide the host Linux environment. The images will vary depending on where you sourced your images. There is no magic on creating the customized environments. Someone needs to define the resources (IMS, tables, load modules,...). This could be the system programmer or the developer or tester. Think of it more as a pipeline where the each person does their part DBA theirs, etc.). Once you have the flavor of what you want you can copy the volumes for each user’s instance. Ideally you’ll have automation to recreate them. There are a set of tools as part of ZD&T that can assist I believe there is docker support as an alternative to running heavier weight VMs. Docket is interesting as it allows you to amortize the base image cost across multiple instances Matt Hogstrom +1 (919) 656-0564 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 08:42, scott Ford wrote: > > Frank: > > We are in Partnerworld , this one is new to me . I *ASSUME ( I know ) > that the customer has to have the Linux hardware for the Deploys , etc. > Can someone from IBM confirm this ? My assumption is you could run on > another host environment ... > > Scott > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:42 PM Frank Swarbrick >> >> wrote: >> >> Starting a new thread...just because. >> So does anyone have an experience actually using this? >> Do you have Enterprise Edition? >> Does each developer have a zD&T "instance"? >> Do you build an "image" from an existing mainframe z/OS environment >> and then have the developers deploy that image to their personal instance? >> What about testers? On >> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.0/com.ibm. >> zsys.rdt.tools.user.guide.doc/topics/provisioning.html >> is states "This process can be done by any application programmer or >> tester on-demand whenever they need a new environment." That seems >> almost too good to be true! >> What if a developer needs to create new resources for their >> environment, i.e. files, DB2 tables, IMS databases and PSBs, MQ >> queues et al? Do those ge
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
Thanks for all who responded here and off-line. I don't need it for PDSE, only PDS. Without going through another product like TSO, ISPF, etc, it seems that you can only get this using two methods: - read the directory, counting blocks - use FAMS ($$ doc licensed $$) Since the information itself only seems to exist in the data set itself, the first option seems the best to me. On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:45 AM Tom Conley wrote: > On 10/11/2019 11:41 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? > > Do you just have to open the directory and count? > > > > Kirk Wolf > > Dovetailed Technologies > > http://dovetail.com > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > Kirk, > > If you have PDS in your shop, look at the code for the USAGE command. > If not, grab it at cbttape.org, file 182. > > Regards, > Tom Conley > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) JES3 Licensing Agreement
I think a win-win ..in my eyes On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:00 PM Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > I believe that it's a good thing for all of us even though I have no > direct connection to JES3. More than one sysprog I've encountered at SHARE > has related more or less this story: > > My management is irked at the time/trouble/expense of having to convert to > a new way of life just for IBM's convenience. They're asking why--if we > have to blow all this time/trouble/expense anyway--don't we go window > shopping for a whole new platform? That line of thinking is not good for > any of us on IBM-Main. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Steve Smith > Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 11:23 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) > JES3 Licensing Agreement > > Not being involved with JES3, I'm disinterested, but IBM has been > offloading development of various software products to other software > companies for some time. I wonder why they didn't just do that with JES3, > and keep the brand & continuity. Regardless, it does sound like a good > thing for Phoenix and JES3 customers. > > sas > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 11:15 PM Timothy Sipples > wrote: > > > Ed Jaffe wrote: > > >It's not every day someone acquires a core z/OS component from IBM > > >(has that EVER happened?) so you can be sure we will treat it with > > >the respect it deserves. > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
OPEN and count is so easy that it's not worth while looking for alternatives unless you need to support PDSE. Is there a count option in DESREVE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Kirk Wolf Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks? For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? Do you just have to open the directory and count? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://secure-web.cisco.com/1uh3YoqUIQ8RgxewOxf4EpdczWFyeIHybpnSR5gFaWzL-dbKXwbPbRbANp-9RhEYtzXXA8LO76EcZSr6ZZaKXuc7T5DLHiL6TbUDI-bE2IDic-nZiymf6plZyKnjk75RyHRcLB7EhGwgmQ24r8ngIbgQlKqy4xk3jUmh4yEmXBE13K5hxINCaQvhwDkYCCN1k2_5jUckvoq0yL6LrXjLGbkJz2__D9jhFJy8Ogdy84XBcxzzm4csnF09HDUsB84N2uQqf2I0VL5D8eG3dXC6ROLdkJribOMiCsS0l_pgjrUDUTSWo8HOICVvxQzdHlZQgNxlx_5-9ielDm9IOqp5oVioxIO2lQ_3gHZejj8qBqM9x2PiYb70ONIkVROWF01t8COmPHpHVCIGDDJ_71i9xGwHXVoPNm9F2apvgiW83hQ-22B8KOhsSGzoRPx2TH5Pi/http%3A%2F%2Fdovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3
One of our developers wants to start testing this, PTFs (and all the PE fixing ones too) are applied, but when he uses the new keywords in IDCAMS they're not recognized. The APAR says the new function ships disabled, with an enabling APAR shipping later. Does anyone know about the enabling APAR and whether it's available yet? Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
On 2019-10-11, at 12:49:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > OPEN and count is so easy that it's not worth while looking for alternatives > unless you need to support PDSE. Is there a count option in DESREVE? > Don't know about DESERV. ISPF Info says no limit (it's dynamic). For compatibility, PDSE can be opened as PS and directory blocks (perhaps simulated) can be read. I don't know whether EODAD is entered after the last (8x'FF') member or after all unused space that might be used for directory entries. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
For member count, yes; the GET_ALL function even when applied to a PDS returns # DESB's, 1 DESB per member, assuming just one PDS is allocated in a DD. No way to get maximum directory blocks (which is unlimited for PDSE after all). So Kirk and Shmuel are both correct, the only and easiest way to get the directory block count is to read them to EOF of the directory. I suspect that the JCL value in the SPACE parameter for directory entries is only used to set the initial value of the "TTR of next data block" value (DS1LSTAR?) in the DSCB of a newly-allocated PDS. You can get the directory-blocks-per-track value from the DSCB but that is the same value for all files (emulated or otherwise) on 3390-format ECKD disks. You could presumably use the blocks-per-track and next-data-block TTR values to calculate the maximum directory block count for a newly-allocated PDS, but no accurate way to calculate that for one that already has members in it and may have deleted member spaces (i.e., not compressed) even by reading all the directory blocks anyway to find the lowest starting TTR. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks? OPEN and count is so easy that it's not worth while looking for alternatives unless you need to support PDSE. Is there a count option in DESREVE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Kirk Wolf Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks? For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? Do you just have to open the directory and count? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3
I found for 2.3 OA53690: NEW FUNCTION - VSAMDB * R230 PSY UA97650 UP18/10/25 P F810 * UA97650 is for 2.3 I think Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Mark Jacobs" <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:16:46 PM Subject: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3 One of our developers wants to start testing this, PTFs (and all the PE fixing ones too) are applied, but when he uses the new keywords in IDCAMS they're not recognized. The APAR says the new function ships disabled, with an enabling APAR shipping later. Does anyone know about the enabling APAR and whether it's available yet? Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3
That APAR/PTF adds support to DFDSSS for the new function, not what I'm needing. Thanks though. PROBLEM SUMMARY: * USERS AFFECTED: * * All users of DFSMSdss HDZ2210 and above.* * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: * * DFSMSdss new function support for * * VSAMDB * * RECOMMENDATION: * DFSMSdss new function support for VSAMDB Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 11, 2019 3:21 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > I found for 2.3 > OA53690: NEW FUNCTION - VSAMDB > > * R230 PSY UA97650 > > UP18/10/25 P F810 > * > UA97650 is for 2.3 I think > > Carmen Vitullo > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mark Jacobs" 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 2:16:46 PM > Subject: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3 > > One of our developers wants to start testing this, PTFs (and all the PE > fixing ones too) are applied, but when he uses the new keywords in IDCAMS > they're not recognized. The APAR says the new function ships disabled, with > an enabling APAR shipping later. Does anyone know about the enabling APAR and > whether it's available yet? > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com > > --- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3
• Enabling support for VSAMDB is available through PTFs for APAR OA55153 on z/OS V2.2 and later From: https://ibm-zcouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/zOS-Performance-Hot-Topics.pdf First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3 [External Email] One of our developers wants to start testing this, PTFs (and all the PE fixing ones too) are applied, but when he uses the new keywords in IDCAMS they're not recognized. The APAR says the new function ships disabled, with an enabling APAR shipping later. Does anyone know about the enabling APAR and whether it's available yet? Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN EXCITING NEWS! Beginning this fall, First Tennessee will become First Horizon. Learn more: thenewfirsthorizon.com Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3
Thanks. The enabling PTFs aren't available yet. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 11, 2019 3:37 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote: > • Enabling support for VSAMDB is available through PTFs for APAR OA55153 on > z/OS V2.2 and later > > From: > https://ibm-zcouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/zOS-Performance-Hot-Topics.pdf > > First Tennessee Bank > Mainframe Technical Support > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of > Mark Jacobs > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:17 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3 > > [External Email] > > One of our developers wants to start testing this, PTFs (and all the PE > fixing ones too) are applied, but when he uses the new keywords in IDCAMS > they're not recognized. The APAR says the new function ships disabled, with > an enabling APAR shipping later. Does anyone know about the enabling APAR and > whether it's available yet? > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > EXCITING NEWS! Beginning this fall, First Tennessee will become First > Horizon. Learn more: thenewfirsthorizon.com > > Confidentiality notice: > This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally > privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this > message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately > notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. > > > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3
So I noticed in SIS after I sent the first response. And the APAR has been open a year and a half; must be a bear of a new function (reads like it is). That, and they have probably outsourced DFP support and development to Activision by now. Nothing would surprise me anymore. First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: APAR OA55248 NEW FUNCTION:VSAMDB FOR Z/OS 2.3 [External Email] Thanks. The enabling PTFs aren't available yet. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com EXCITING NEWS! Beginning this fall, First Tennessee will become First Horizon. Learn more: thenewfirsthorizon.com Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Best programming interface to get PDS max dir blocks?
You can use ISPF =3.2 to check how many directory blocks are currently allocated to your PDS, and use PDSMAN (if you have it) to allocate more directory blocks. You can run PGM=IEBGENER, pointing SYSUT1 at the PDS and SYSUT2 at a sequential output dataset (with RECFM=FB, LRECL=256, and [it used to be] BLKSIZE=256) to dump the whole PDS's directory to a PS dataset - which you can then read to count the directory blocks (each block is 256 bytes long). Cheers, CP On 11/10/2019 19:07, Kirk Wolf wrote: > Thanks for all who responded here and off-line. > I don't need it for PDSE, only PDS. > Without going through another product like TSO, ISPF, etc, it seems that > you can only get this using two methods: > > - read the directory, counting blocks > - use FAMS ($$ doc licensed $$) > > Since the information itself only seems to exist in the data set itself, > the first option seems the best to me. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:45 AM Tom Conley > wrote: > >> On 10/11/2019 11:41 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: >>> For an existing PDS, what's the best way to get this? >>> Do you just have to open the directory and count? >>> >>> Kirk Wolf >>> Dovetailed Technologies >>> http://dovetail.com >>> >>> -- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >> Kirk, >> >> If you have PDS in your shop, look at the code for the USAGE command. >> If not, grab it at cbttape.org, file 182. >> >> Regards, >> Tom Conley >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: configure zos explorer
As David says. You need the RSED server/Daemon running. Also make sure your TCPIP profile has the ports enabled. If you are using CICS Explorer, you'll need the ports and TCPIPService configured too. It's not a trivial task to set all this up. You will need to configure some BPX.** FACILITY classes in RACF and there are rules around access to /bin/sh in relation to OMVS segments/OMVS UID settings. On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:06 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Corrected a typo... > > > _ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Jousma, David > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: configure zos explorer > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > Look in your SFEK* datasets (SYS1.FEK.SFEK* on my system). There is > configuration settings that usually live in /etc, a fair amount of security > setup for RSED and JMON started tasks. Then, you will need to configure > the IPVSRV task that comes in the SIPV* datasets (SYS1.IPV.SIPV* on my > system).This is the interface that z/explorer will use to communicate > with DEBUG, Fault Analyzer, File Manager, and Application Performance > Analyzer. > > > > > > _ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: configure zos explorer > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > Not sure what that is I’ll look into it > > Thanks > > > > Joe Reichman > 170-10 73 rd ave > Fresh meadows NY 11366 > > > On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Jousma, David < > 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > Do you have the RSED task up and listening on port 4035? > > > > __ > > ___ > > Dave Jousma > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > > Rapids, MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:32 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: configure zos explorer > > > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > > unexpected emails** > > > > I get the following error message > > > > IZE0106E connect failed with “Error to launch server on 192.86.32.184 > > using dameon running on port 4035” (192.86.32.64) > > > > 192.86.32.64 is the up address of the z/os system > > > > > > > > > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > >> > >> In z/OS Explorer go to Window > Manage Connections. > >> > >> You should see CICS System Management with Cicsplex and CMCI Under > >> that is z/OS There will be Ftp z/OS Remote System z/OSMF > >> > >> Click on z/OS Remote System and hit the Add button > >> > >> In that popup are the Remote Host IP address and Port. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:09 AM Joseph Reichman > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Would anyone know how to configure z/os explorer (gui client of > >>> debug > >>> tool) What I mean is were would I enter the Z/OS TCPIP ADDRESS > >>> AND/OR PORT # > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > >>> IBM-MAIN > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Wayne V. Bickerdike > >> > >> - > >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > >> IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > > > **DO NOT open attachments or
Re: Saving job output
RGEN in SDSF has some useful templates. I've built a few useful utilities using RGEN as a base. I'll take alook at Lionel's utilities too. Looks great. My latest (most useful to our shop) is using REXX/SDSF to find a writer ID from Tivoli Workload Scheduler output collector and write it out to a meaningful job name for our support staff to quickly find output from Windows tasks. I also use REXX/SDSF to cancel long running batch jobs that our training course students submit and forget about. Robs session at Share/Phoenix was very helpful. On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mike Stramba wrote: > On 10/10/19, Rob Scott wrote: > > The most recent link : https://www.share.org/d/do/17301 > > > > You *might* need a Share login. > > > > Got it, thank, no login req ;) > > >Depending on the level of z/OS you are at, in SDSF there is a REXX > Tutorial. > > Thanks Lizette. > > Mike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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That doesn't sound promising. My thought was to use the environment development (Cobol and some Assembler), target CICS with VSAM and DB2. This is a RACF shop with third party SCM. Then the developers might get better response time for their development and test batch jobs. I certainly would not expect developers to manage the environment that would be the role of the Sysprog so if we could clone an LPAR on the mainframe to bring down, then there shouldn't be too much work to do hopefully. We are not a Sysplex shop so that would not be an issue for the moment. Standing up Linux boxes would not be an issue since the place uses AWS extensively so I could just ask the Digital guys to spin up some Linux image for us and we do the rest :-) I might broach the topic with the developers just to gauge interest. On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:00 AM Frank Swarbrick wrote: > You just expressed all of my concerns. I personally would be happy to do > a lot of "systemish" things in this environment, but I can't imagine it > makes sense for most developers. > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:56 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Z Development and Test Environment (zD&T) > > So, we took a peek at licensing zD&T. We did a trial on it, and stood a > couple instances up. As others have mentioned, it is the ADCD image, and > has all products. The "problem" for us, is that we don’t have an all blue > software stack.So to do anything meaningful, that might resemble what > you are already running you'll have to roll-your-own image. IBM does > provide utilities to clone a MF based image, and build a zD&T image.We > happen to be all parallel sysplex. To keep things simple, I'd have to > build a stand-alone environment to clone from, or go to the effort of > building a VM environment on ZD&T, and then stand up an emulated CF, and > LPAR. Then what about security? WE happen to be a CA-TSS shop, but even > if you are a RACF shop you cannot just load your RACF database to the ZD&T > image, otherwise nothing IBM provided will run since none of the tasks, etc > would be the same names. > > So, then you are faced with basically reproducing your entire system > environment in this space. While IBM allows you to use all of their > products, we've found out that the other vendors aren’t quite so generous. > The other big problem for us, is that we just don’t have the staffing at > this time to provide all the care and feeding building and maintaining it > will require.The other problem that we see is that an image that a > developer spins up wont have the knowledge let alone sysprog access to > start/stop regions, etc, etc, etc. IBM's answer was just give them the > access, if they screw it up, just wipe it out, and reclone the image. The > problem is you are asking developers to do things in this environment that > they would have not access to do on the "real systems" and would generate > endless calls to my team for support. > > About the only use case we can find is for DB2 development work, testing > queries, table design, etc. > > > > _ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Matt Hogstrom > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Z Development and Test Environment (zD&T) > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > The customer has to provide the host Linux environment. The images will > vary depending on where you sourced your images. There is no magic on > creating the customized environments. Someone needs to define the > resources (IMS, tables, load modules,...). This could be the system > programmer or the developer or tester. > > Think of it more as a pipeline where the each person does their part DBA > theirs, etc.). > > Once you have the flavor of what you want you can copy the volumes for > each user’s instance. Ideally you’ll have automation to recreate them. > There are a set of tools as part of ZD&T that can assist > > I believe there is docker support as an alternative to running heavier > weight VMs. Docket is interesting as it allows you to amortize the base > image cost across multiple instances > > Matt Hogstrom > +1 (919) 656-0564 > > > On Oct 11, 2019, at 08:42, scott Ford wrote: > > > > Frank: > > > > We are in Partnerworld , this one is new to me . I *ASSUME ( I know ) > > that the customer has to have the Linux hardware for the Deploys , etc. >
