Yep I agree with Sebastian . The Redbooks are great and accurate for installation and maintaining z/PDT
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:06 AM Sebastian Welton <sebast...@welton.de> wrote: > Some comments inserted, very basic ones though, but overall, you can do > pretty much all of what you require... > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:16:30 +1300, Laurence Chiu <lch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >That's very interesting. > > > >Looks like the personal edition might be a good tool to get new developers > >familiar with the environment. And then maybe Enterprise edition if we > want > >to offload some development work from the host. > > The PE version is only limited to one user so possibly not ideal for a > company. The EE version does have single user licensing if you want to go > that way but also multiple users and can work in tandem with Rational > tokens for CPU licensing. In fact with the EE version you could have > multiple users who could spin up their own z/OS systems whenever they want > or you could just have one larger system with multiple users. It also > allows you to extract CICS and DB2 artifacts from your Z so you can even > narrow it down further as to what each user would have in their z/OS image. > There are quite a few possibilities there > > > > >However is not clear to me how you would do applications development on > the > >platform if you were using a third party source code management product. > >Would you be able to install that on the environment or have to download > >all the source code and copy books to this environment to be able to do > >test compiles? > > > > Many companies offer licensing for their products on the ZD&T platform, > it's just a question of asking them. You would probably have to copy the > SCM data over to the ZD&T environment in order to use it unless there is a > way of, say, network connectivity to it. Alternatively, just move your > whole development environment over to ZD&T return the development LPAR > resources back to production :-) > > >Also does all IBM software run on the environment or only a subset? > > > > Practically all z/OS software runs in this environment however there are > some limitations to the emulation side, not everything Z can be emulated > although IBM have performed an admirable task here. As a ZD&T user you > would also be licensed to use the ADCD stack which includes nearly all IBM > middleware products and more: > http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.SHTML(A23DREAD)' > > >Also one of the projects we would be looking at is spinning up our first > >sysplex. It would be cool to be able to do that using ZDG&T Parallel > >Sysplex but the application we want to test in this Plex is not from IBM > >and I have no idea how you would get it to run. > > The Parallel Sysplex offering requires that you run z/VM, one of the ares > where zPDT cannot perform all emulation. Documented here: > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.4/com.ibm.zsys.rdt.guide.adcd.doc/topics/c_node_zvm_adcd.html > Once again, for a 3rd party product, you would just need to talk to the > supplier about licensing. > > There are a lot of resources on the web from IBM about ZD&T. > > Sebastian > > > > > >On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:44 PM Sebastian Welton <sebast...@welton.de> > wrote: > > > >> They are pretty much the same product, ZD&T uses zPDT as the underlying > >> emulator but depending upon which version you use, has many > enhancements to > >> provide a DevOps experience. As already pointed out, zPDT is only for > ISVs > >> and ZD&T is available to commercial entities but you are bound by the > usage > >> which tends to be only development, testing and education: from IBM: > >> > >> ---- > >> It creates an environment for mainframe application demonstration, > >> development, testing, and employee education without Z mainframe > hardware > >> > >> ZD&T cannot be used for production workloads of any kind, nor robust > >> development workloads, production module builds, preproduction testing, > >> stress testing, or performance testing. > >> ---- > >> > >> There are 3 versions of ZD&T: > >> > >> ZD&T Personal Edition - this enables a single user to run an IBM® Z > >> distribution on a personal computer. > >> ZD&T Enterprise Edition - this enables enterprises to host an IBM Z > >> distribution on low-cost Intel-based x86 machines. Enterprise Edition > >> provides a web-based interface. You can extract, deploy, and manage the > >> application images from an existing Z or ADCD packages. > >> ZD&T Parallel Sysplex - can be used to enable a Sysplex environment that > >> is running within z/VM > >> > >> zPDT on the other hand, provide qualified PartnerWorld Independent > >> Software Vendors (ISVs) with z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE and associated middleware > >> products. 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