Some comments inserted, very basic ones though, but overall, you can do pretty much all of what you require...
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:16:30 +1300, Laurence Chiu <lch...@gmail.com> wrote: >That's very interesting. > >Looks like the personal edition might be a good tool to get new developers >familiar with the environment. And then maybe Enterprise edition if we want >to offload some development work from the host. The PE version is only limited to one user so possibly not ideal for a company. The EE version does have single user licensing if you want to go that way but also multiple users and can work in tandem with Rational tokens for CPU licensing. In fact with the EE version you could have multiple users who could spin up their own z/OS systems whenever they want or you could just have one larger system with multiple users. It also allows you to extract CICS and DB2 artifacts from your Z so you can even narrow it down further as to what each user would have in their z/OS image. There are quite a few possibilities there > >However is not clear to me how you would do applications development on the >platform if you were using a third party source code management product. >Would you be able to install that on the environment or have to download >all the source code and copy books to this environment to be able to do >test compiles? > Many companies offer licensing for their products on the ZD&T platform, it's just a question of asking them. You would probably have to copy the SCM data over to the ZD&T environment in order to use it unless there is a way of, say, network connectivity to it. Alternatively, just move your whole development environment over to ZD&T return the development LPAR resources back to production :-) >Also does all IBM software run on the environment or only a subset? > Practically all z/OS software runs in this environment however there are some limitations to the emulation side, not everything Z can be emulated although IBM have performed an admirable task here. As a ZD&T user you would also be licensed to use the ADCD stack which includes nearly all IBM middleware products and more: http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.SHTML(A23DREAD)' >Also one of the projects we would be looking at is spinning up our first >sysplex. It would be cool to be able to do that using ZDG&T Parallel >Sysplex but the application we want to test in this Plex is not from IBM >and I have no idea how you would get it to run. The Parallel Sysplex offering requires that you run z/VM, one of the ares where zPDT cannot perform all emulation. Documented here: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSTQBD_12.0.4/com.ibm.zsys.rdt.guide.adcd.doc/topics/c_node_zvm_adcd.html Once again, for a 3rd party product, you would just need to talk to the supplier about licensing. There are a lot of resources on the web from IBM about ZD&T. Sebastian > >On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:44 PM Sebastian Welton <sebast...@welton.de> wrote: > >> They are pretty much the same product, ZD&T uses zPDT as the underlying >> emulator but depending upon which version you use, has many enhancements to >> provide a DevOps experience. As already pointed out, zPDT is only for ISVs >> and ZD&T is available to commercial entities but you are bound by the usage >> which tends to be only development, testing and education: from IBM: >> >> ---- >> It creates an environment for mainframe application demonstration, >> development, testing, and employee education without Z mainframe hardware >> >> ZD&T cannot be used for production workloads of any kind, nor robust >> development workloads, production module builds, preproduction testing, >> stress testing, or performance testing. >> ---- >> >> There are 3 versions of ZD&T: >> >> ZD&T Personal Edition - this enables a single user to run an IBM® Z >> distribution on a personal computer. >> ZD&T Enterprise Edition - this enables enterprises to host an IBM Z >> distribution on low-cost Intel-based x86 machines. Enterprise Edition >> provides a web-based interface. You can extract, deploy, and manage the >> application images from an existing Z or ADCD packages. >> ZD&T Parallel Sysplex - can be used to enable a Sysplex environment that >> is running within z/VM >> >> zPDT on the other hand, provide qualified PartnerWorld Independent >> Software Vendors (ISVs) with z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE and associated middleware >> products. You need to go through an approval process in order to get it. >> >> Sebastian >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
