Re: [GNC] Logs.

[Colin Law]

I am wondering why the log files bother you.  Possibly you have done
something like saving the accounts file on the desktop, so you see the log
files there.  If so then that is a bad plan.  Instead I suggest making a
folder specifically for the accounts file and using File > Save As to save
it there.  Then you can leave the log file setting at the default and they
will be no bother, but will be there in case you need them.

Colin

On 26 July 2018 at 21:27, varda241--- via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Will try 1 day. ThanksSent from my Verizon ASUS
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>  Original Message 
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> Subject:Re: [GNC] Logs.
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> >Hi,
> >
> >varda241 via gnucash-user  writes:
> >
> >>
> >> It is not just one or two. There are logs created each time I open the
> >> program
> >
> >Which "log" are you talking about?
> >
> >Are you talking about the transaction logs?
> >Or are you talking about the runtime (trace file) logs?
> >
> >There is no way to turn off transaction logs -- all you can do is define
> >how long they will be kept.  The shortest you can set that to is 1 day.
> >If you set it to 0 it will keep them forever.
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Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

[H M MacDonald OBE]

My accounts are showing a profit of £20.99  which shows as an Imbalance of
£20.99.  Sorry to be a bit slow on all of this but are folk saying that the
£20.99 needs to be added to current assets/equity to make the trial balance?
I¹ve tried that and it still fails.  It can¹t be added to the income  as a
profit since that will make the profit double.  Clearly there¹s something
I¹m still not getting ŠŠŠ

Thanks to everyone for their input so far.

From:  gnucash-user
 on behalf of Stan
Brown 
Date:  Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 13:21
To:  GnuCash User List 
Subject:  Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

David T. wrote:

>  For those who *do* have such holdings, a balanced transaction will still fail
>  the trial balance if the gain or loss isn?t entered. In this instance, there
>  will be no entries in IMBALANCE-XXX, since each transaction balances.
>  Example: buy 10 shares of X for $100, using cash from your checking account
>  (credit/debit of $100). Then sell those shares for $150 (debit/credit of
> $150).
>  Both transaction balance?but where did that extra cash come from? Without
>  entering the gain of $50 as income, the Trial balance will fail.

Is that really what happens?  I can't understand why, if it does. Yes, you
end up with an extra $50 in cash, and you also end up with MINUS $50 in the
investment: the original debit of $100, and the sale credit of $50, leaving
a credit (minus) balance of $50. As far as I can see, the trial balance
still balances.

Of course, a negative balance in an investment account should raise a red
flag when (if) yo notice it: "Oops, I forgot to enter the gain as a
transaction." But I don't see how it should make the trial balance fail.

BTW, instead of a separate transaction, I might record the gain as a split:
Assets:Cash $150 debit
Assets:Investment $100 credit
Income:Gain on investments $50 credit

Is there any disadvantage to doing that, versus two transactions?
Assets:Investment $50 debit
Income:Gain on Investments $50 credit
Assets:Cash $150 debit
Assets::Investment $150 credit

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Re: [GNC] Bug in design of commodity sell transactions? (was Re: Getting My Account To Trial Balance)

[DaveC49]

Adrien,

>From what little I know of the automatic gains/loss calculations by default
the gain or loss on a transaction is created in an Orphan-Gains-CCC account
by default and the user has to reassign the gain or loss to an appropriate
income account. 

 See
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html#invest-sellAutoExample
in the Tutorial and Concepts Guide for a description of how the Scrub
function works. 

The transaction is balanced by the split into the Orphan-Gains-CCC account, 
which is not a true income account as such in the account heirarchy but is
used so the procedure has a defined target.

 From Section 9.7.3.10 covering the scrub function  which covers automatic
generation of the required splits the user is then instructed to proceed to
Section 9.7.3.6 where it describes reassignment of the Orphan-Gains-CCC
account to the appropriate Income account. Here the CCC refers to the
specific currency associated with the asset security account where trading
is in multiple currencies so foa a trade in Austraian dollars it would be
AUD or USD if the trade was in US dollars

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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[DaveC49]

Adrien, David,

The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based.
Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it directly
or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file
open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point when
you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo. Not
being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.

 On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750 and
the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions. 

The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3 dialog
does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the directories
under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in GnuCash
either.

if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.

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Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)

[DaveC49]

Adrien,

I do use Nabble and also get the user list posts by email but as I am in
Australia I sometiimes notice there is a long delay associated with being in
this timezone. I'm not sure where the moderators are located but, I tend to
post usually in the morning AEST (UTC -10:00) and my posts don't often
appear on Nabble, until the next morning so often the issue has been dealt
with by the time a post gets up. We need to be aware that not all responders
are necessarily in the same time zone.

This never seemed to be a problem a couple of years ago but maybe the
location of the moderator(s) has changed and/or they only have a narrow time
window available to them to lookover posts. Again no criticism of the
moderators intended or to be inferred.  I have never really expected
immediate responses in any case so I don't find it too much of a problem but
it does make conversations on a topic difficult at times.

The delay is not just whether one is subscribed to the mail  lists or not
though. I am subscribed to both gnucash-dev and gnucash-user but use Nabble
a lot of the time and my posts to both are still passed through a moderator
and it does not matter whether I reply using Nabble online or by email I
still receive an email saying my post is awaiting moderation.

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Re: [GNC] Payroll add-on, module, software?

[DaveC49]

John

I had considered writing a payroll plugin a few years ago but found that
finding my way around the Gnucash code made it difficult so I have great
respect for the business features that Derek has created so far. I started
to think more in terms of a separate payroll program which maintained its
own user interface and database and exported the necessary accounting
information to GnuCash via something like OFX importing. I have looked at a
variety of open source and purportedly free offerings most of which are very
jurisdiction specific and satisfy local compliance requirements. Many offer
a free version for a small number of employees and then scale into plans for
more employees. I have not found any which mention exporting or integration
of accounting information except where part of an ERP system (rarely free). 

As Derek has indicated the software can be complex because there is both a
dependence upon the taxation law requirements as well as industrial law
requirements and the framework for both varies considerably across many
jurisdictions. Tthere is also a high annual maintenance load to satisfy
compliance issues in both areas. As a business owner 15 years ago I was
happy to pay for software which handled the taxation compliance even though
industrial relations compliance was not handled at that time. We have a
fairly complex array of federal and state awards negotiated with the unions
and ratified by state and federal industial relations tribunals/courts along
with individual enterprise bargaining agreements with larger companies and
individual employment contracts for salaried staff as well as a compulsory
superannuation system paid by the employer and a withholding system for
employee tax contributions. I would imagine the situation is not too
different in most countries.  The need to store employee specific
information like tax file numbers, address and contact details also
introduces compliance issues re privacy although that is more OS and network
security related.

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Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:33:10 -0400
"David T. via gnucash-user"  wrote:

> One big issue with Nabble is that messages from people who use
> Nabble, but are NOT subscribed to gnucash-user get delayed in
> appearing on gnucash-user, since they must pass through the moderator
> before appearing at gnucash-user (this is in no way to be construed
> as a criticism of either the moderation or the moderator!). This
> delay means that responses sent via Nabble from Nabble users that
> HAVE subscribed to gnucash-user come through before the messages to
> which they are replying.

David T, you have it to a T.
The delay occurs where people have chosen not to subscribe to the
mailing lists and use an alternate mailing list reader to send emails
to the list.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:13:57 -0500 (CDT)
DaveC49  wrote:

> I do use Nabble and also get the user list posts by email but as I am
> in Australia I sometiimes notice there is a long delay associated
> with being in this timezone. I'm not sure where the moderators are
> located but, I tend to post usually in the morning AEST (UTC -10:00)
> and my posts don't often appear on Nabble, until the next morning so
> often the issue has been dealt with by the time a post gets up. We
> need to be aware that not all responders are necessarily in the same
> time zone.
> 
> This never seemed to be a problem a couple of years ago but maybe the
> location of the moderator(s) has changed and/or they only have a
> narrow time window available to them to lookover posts. Again no
> criticism of the moderators intended or to be inferred.  I have never
> really expected immediate responses in any case so I don't find it
> too much of a problem but it does make conversations on a topic
> difficult at times.
> 
> The delay is not just whether one is subscribed to the mail  lists or
> not though. I am subscribed to both gnucash-dev and gnucash-user but
> use Nabble a lot of the time and my posts to both are still passed
> through a moderator and it does not matter whether I reply using
> Nabble online or by email I still receive an email saying my post is
> awaiting moderation.
> 
> David Cousens

I have sent David a personal email explaining why this is so. The
moderator and the poster are actually in the same time zone, but one is
retired and one works, so we use the internet at different times.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 184, Issue 57

[varda241 via gnucash-user]

Excellent idea. Thanks


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   1. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (Adrien Monteleone)
   2. Re:  Payroll add-on, module, software? (R. Victor Klassen)
   3. Re:  Change text color (GT-I9070 H)
   4.  Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill (dlbonline)
   5.  Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date
  (Chris Velevitch)
   6. Re:  Payroll add-on, module, software? (Adrien Monteleone)
   7. Re:  Logs. (Colin Law)
   8. Re:  Getting My Account To Trial Balance (H M MacDonald OBE)
   9. Re:  Bug in design of commodity sell transactions? (was Re:
  Getting My Account To Trial Balance) (DaveC49)
  10. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (DaveC49)
  11. Re:  Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments) (DaveC49)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:24:58 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone 
To: gnucash-user 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue
Message-ID: <1dd9add6-c7dd-44f0-a3c2-c4a5a1718...@lusfiber.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

As Mint is based on Ubuntu you *might* be facing the read-only usb bug. (which 
seems to keep reappearing after being allegedly fixed) What are the permissions 
on the parent folder for the mount point of the drive? And then the same for 
the gnucash folder and files? (I?m looking for either octals like ?755? or the 
string type like ?wrxwrx-r-?)

And, I know this sounds terrible for Linux, but does a log-out/in or a system 
restart magically make the external drive read-write? (a strong indication of 
the aforementioned bug)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Don Pawluk  wrote:
> 
> Gave it a try. Can open the file, but only as read-only and it will not save 
> back to the original location. Creates a temporary directory 
> \run\users\doc\1a36500 and puts files there. the files disappear when GNUcash 
> is closed. Have full access to read & write to the source directory when not 
> in GNUcash, but it does not seem to have write access.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Don,
> 
> Presumably you already checked if the drives are visible where you expect 
> using Caja?
> 
> If so, can you navigate to the usb/external and open the file from there?
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Jul 26, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Don Pawluk  wrote:
> > 
> > Running on Linux Mint 18.3 Mate, open file will not provide access to usb
> > external drives or smb dirves. Will open on local PC drives. When bringing
> > up file system there is no media folder where I would normally expect to
> > find the usb external drives or smb drives.
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated, Don
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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 18:40:28 -0400
From: "R. Victor Klassen" 
To: John Ralls 
Cc: "Maf. King" , Gnucash Users

Subject: Re: [GNC] Payroll add-on, module, software?
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When I think of the requirements for payroll, it seems like it would require 
more than a ?plug-in? that accepts parameters that vary by jurisdiction.  It 
would need to be more like a full programming language (well, not full - 
arbitrary loop controls not required - for language geeks, it would l

Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

[David Carlson]

If you sold an asset that is valued in units other than your currency then
read the chapter of the manual about capital gains about how to enter your
profit.

Otherwise tell us more about the transaction where that profit appeared.

David C

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 4:11 AM H M MacDonald OBE 
wrote:

> My accounts are showing a profit of £20.99  which shows as an Imbalance of
> £20.99.  Sorry to be a bit slow on all of this but are folk saying that the
> £20.99 needs to be added to current assets/equity to make the trial
> balance?
> I¹ve tried that and it still fails.  It can¹t be added to the income  as a
> profit since that will make the profit double.  Clearly there¹s something
> I¹m still not getting ŠŠŠ
>
> Thanks to everyone for their input so far.
>
> From:  gnucash-user
>  on behalf of
> Stan
> Brown 
> Date:  Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 13:21
> To:  GnuCash User List 
> Subject:  Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
>
> David T. wrote:
>
> >  For those who *do* have such holdings, a balanced transaction will
> still fail
> >  the trial balance if the gain or loss isn?t entered. In this instance,
> there
> >  will be no entries in IMBALANCE-XXX, since each transaction balances.
> >  Example: buy 10 shares of X for $100, using cash from your checking
> account
> >  (credit/debit of $100). Then sell those shares for $150 (debit/credit of
> > $150).
> >  Both transaction balance?but where did that extra cash come from?
> Without
> >  entering the gain of $50 as income, the Trial balance will fail.
>
> Is that really what happens?  I can't understand why, if it does. Yes, you
> end up with an extra $50 in cash, and you also end up with MINUS $50 in the
> investment: the original debit of $100, and the sale credit of $50, leaving
> a credit (minus) balance of $50. As far as I can see, the trial balance
> still balances.
>
> Of course, a negative balance in an investment account should raise a red
> flag when (if) yo notice it: "Oops, I forgot to enter the gain as a
> transaction." But I don't see how it should make the trial balance fail.
>
> BTW, instead of a separate transaction, I might record the gain as a split:
> Assets:Cash $150 debit
> Assets:Investment $100 credit
> Income:Gain on investments $50 credit
>
> Is there any disadvantage to doing that, versus two transactions?
> Assets:Investment $50 debit
> Income:Gain on Investments $50 credit
> Assets:Cash $150 debit
> Assets::Investment $150 credit
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Re: [GNC] Payroll add-on, module, software?

[Derek Atkins]

Adrien,

Adrien Monteleone  writes:

> It strikes me as the problem is being overthought.
>
> If a spreadsheet can handle the calculations, it can’t be that complicated.

The spreadsheet can handle the calculations for single entity, which
most likely is dealing with a single "type" of job in a single
jurisdiction.

Anything GnuCash implements would need to be more generic, because it
would need to support different jurisdictions that have different
rules.  The goal, IMHO, would be to capture the set of rules and then
allow local configuration to apply those rules to your specific needs.

For example, rules might be taxable vs non-taxable..  Or taxable by some
entities but not others (already adding complexity)..  Or taxable up to
a limit (yet another complexity)..

> If a spreadsheet can handle creating the proper csv for export and
> then import into gnucash, again, it can’t be that complicated.

Again, I suspect the spreadsheet is dealing with one specific locale.  I
can easily create a spreadsheet for my specific needs here in Fulton
County, Georgia, USA.  But those would differ from someone in, say, New
York City... or Boston, Massachusetts... or Toronto, Canada... or
London, UK.

> The complications are jurisdictional and apply BEFORE any transaction
> entry in csv form is generated.

True.

> Maybe you accomplish this with a spreadsheet, maybe a python module or
> maybe even a webapp. The end result just needs to be a csv that can be
> imported into GnuCash.

That is certainly one approach -- an external program that generates
transactions to load into GnuCash (I would recommend QIF, not CSV).

> If you want to take it a step further, use the APIs to write the data
> and skip the csv step.
>
> I’d guess a plugin-module is possible, but it isn’t even
> necessary. I’d suspect plenty of people are using some combination (or
> other) solution that I’ve already mentioned. It’s just that they
> haven’t published it so no one knows about it. Someone out there is
> calculating payroll and automatically importing the resulting
> transaction to GnuCash, we just don’t know who they are or how they
> are going about it. (and perhaps their’s isn’t the best method even)

The calls for plug-ins that I hear are to get GnuCash to generate the
transaction information from the Gross payroll.

> Regards,
> Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

"dlbonline"  writes:

> I have rental and flip property that carry expenses against an asset.  For
> example, I have a painter paint a house for me.  He sends an invoice,  I
> enter the invoice into the Business->vendor->New Bill form.  In the "Expense
> Account" column, I enter the following account (which does exist in the COA)
> Assets:Fixed Assets:House:473 Darlington:Paint.  After the bill is posted,
> the transaction does not show up on the Asset's ledger.

If you go to the A/P account and look at the transaction there, what is
listed in the Transfer Account?

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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[John Ralls]

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:01 PM, dlbonline  wrote:
> 
> I am new to gnuCash, so I hope this is not already asked and answered.  
> 
> 
> 
> I have rental and flip property that carry expenses against an asset.  For
> example, I have a painter paint a house for me.  He sends an invoice,  I
> enter the invoice into the Business->vendor->New Bill form.  In the "Expense
> Account" column, I enter the following account (which does exist in the COA)
> Assets:Fixed Assets:House:473 Darlington:Paint.  After the bill is posted,
> the transaction does not show up on the Asset's ledger.
> 
> 
> 
> This appears to work if I enter the "Expense Account" as an existing expense
> account.  For example Expenses:Home Repair:Paint.  But, this does not show
> up on the ledger for the Asset, which is ultimately what I need.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a way to accomplish this transaction?

I just created a vendor bill with assets:house as the “expense account” and 
posted it; it was added to the house account as expected. What did you do 
differently?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[John Ralls]

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Chris Velevitch  
> wrote:
> 
> When I enter a new transaction with a 2-digit year, the resultant date
> becames1899. For example, I enter 10 for the year and I get 1899 when I
> expect to get 2010. This worked in 2.x.

I just tested on 10.14 beta and got the expected 2010. What are your locale 
settings and what string did you enter for the date?

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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[dlbonline]

Derek,

Thanks for the QUICK response!

Attached is a snapshot of the transaction splits from the AP vendor's
ledger.  This is what I would expect to see on the asset (473 s. darlington
avenue) in some form or fashion, either in detail or in summary.

David


David Briggs
dlbonl...@cox.net
918 625 9170


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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:00 AM
To: dlbonline 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

Hi,

"dlbonline"  writes:

> I have rental and flip property that carry expenses against an asset.  
> For example, I have a painter paint a house for me.  He sends an 
> invoice,  I enter the invoice into the Business->vendor->New Bill 
> form.  In the "Expense Account" column, I enter the following account 
> (which does exist in the COA) Assets:Fixed Assets:House:473 
> Darlington:Paint.  After the bill is posted, the transaction does not show
up on the Asset's ledger.

If you go to the A/P account and look at the transaction there, what is
listed in the Transfer Account?

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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Fri, July 27, 2018 10:19 am, dlbonline wrote:
> Derek,
>
> Thanks for the QUICK response!
>
> Attached is a snapshot of the transaction splits from the AP vendor's
> ledger.  This is what I would expect to see on the asset (473 s.
> darlington
> avenue) in some form or fashion, either in detail or in summary.

This screen-grab shows me that it absolutely posted to those accounts.  So
the program is doing what you told it to do.  You cut off the amounts, so
I can't see what it thinks went there.  But this clearly shows postings
from AP to the assets.

>From the AP account, scroll down to one of the Asset splits and click on
the Jump icon (it kind of looks like an arrow up and the to the left) --
which will take you to that specific transaction in the Asset account. 
Then you'll see exactly which transaction it is in the Asset and be able
to see what it says.

Question:  Do you use multiple currencies?

> David

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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[dlbonline]

I am localized to US settings, and the date strings I have tried are:
05/21/2018
05212018
05/21/18
052118

The first one  gets the closest.  This appears to be a problem only on the
vendor bill entry form, and no other forms that I have tried (which is just
a few).

David Briggs
dlbonl...@cox.net
918 625 9170


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[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+dlbonline=cox@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
John Ralls
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:06 AM
To: Chris Velevitch 
Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date



> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Chris Velevitch 
wrote:
> 
> When I enter a new transaction with a 2-digit year, the resultant date 
> becames1899. For example, I enter 10 for the year and I get 1899 when 
> I expect to get 2010. This worked in 2.x.

I just tested on 10.14 beta and got the expected 2010. What are your locale
settings and what string did you enter for the date?

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[dlbonline]

Derek,
No multiple currencies.

I have discovered that the sub accounts now show up on the COA, and the posted 
amounts are below it, so that is a good start.  Perhaps that is all I can 
expect?  
If that is the case, what report do I run to get a listing of all expenses (and 
incomes) to the asset?  That my be the thing I am missing.

David

David Briggs
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918 625 9170


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From: Derek Atkins [mailto:de...@ihtfp.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:39 AM
To: dlbonl...@cox.net
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: RE: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

Hi,

On Fri, July 27, 2018 10:19 am, dlbonline wrote:
> Derek,
>
> Thanks for the QUICK response!
>
> Attached is a snapshot of the transaction splits from the AP vendor's 
> ledger.  This is what I would expect to see on the asset (473 s.
> darlington
> avenue) in some form or fashion, either in detail or in summary.

This screen-grab shows me that it absolutely posted to those accounts.  So the 
program is doing what you told it to do.  You cut off the amounts, so I can't 
see what it thinks went there.  But this clearly shows postings from AP to the 
assets.

>From the AP account, scroll down to one of the Asset splits and click on the 
>Jump icon (it kind of looks like an arrow up and the to the left) -- which 
>will take you to that specific transaction in the Asset account. 
Then you'll see exactly which transaction it is in the Asset and be able to see 
what it says.

Question:  Do you use multiple currencies?

> David

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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[dlbonline]

John,

I have just discovered that the detail transactions show up in subaccounts to 
the asset, which is OK.  And the balance of the asset reflects those 
subaccounts.  Also OK.  But, they don’t show up in the asset ledger itself.  So 
maybe my problem is asking too much of the ledger.  Perhaps there is a report 
that will give me a statement of all transactions against the asset (income and 
expense)?

David Briggs
dlbonl...@cox.net
918 625 9170


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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:04 AM
To: dlbonl...@cox.net
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill



> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:01 PM, dlbonline  wrote:
> 
> I am new to gnuCash, so I hope this is not already asked and answered.  
> 
> 
> 
> I have rental and flip property that carry expenses against an asset.  
> For example, I have a painter paint a house for me.  He sends an 
> invoice,  I enter the invoice into the Business->vendor->New Bill 
> form.  In the "Expense Account" column, I enter the following account 
> (which does exist in the COA) Assets:Fixed Assets:House:473 
> Darlington:Paint.  After the bill is posted, the transaction does not show up 
> on the Asset's ledger.
> 
> 
> 
> This appears to work if I enter the "Expense Account" as an existing 
> expense account.  For example Expenses:Home Repair:Paint.  But, this 
> does not show up on the ledger for the Asset, which is ultimately what I need.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a way to accomplish this transaction?

I just created a vendor bill with assets:house as the “expense account” and 
posted it; it was added to the house account as expected. What did you do 
differently?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[John Ralls]

Delimiters are required for date entry, so the second and fourth versions won’t 
work. I had no trouble with the first and third on the Vendor bill entry form.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:50 AM, dlbonline  wrote:
> 
> I am localized to US settings, and the date strings I have tried are:
> 05/21/2018
> 05212018
> 05/21/18
> 052118
> 
> The first one  gets the closest.  This appears to be a problem only on the
> vendor bill entry form, and no other forms that I have tried (which is just
> a few).
> 
> David Briggs
> dlbonl...@cox.net
> 918 625 9170
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+dlbonline=cox@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
> John Ralls
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:06 AM
> To: Chris Velevitch 
> Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Chris Velevitch 
> wrote:
>> 
>> When I enter a new transaction with a 2-digit year, the resultant date 
>> becames1899. For example, I enter 10 for the year and I get 1899 when 
>> I expect to get 2010. This worked in 2.x.
> 
> I just tested on 10.14 beta and got the expected 2010. What are your locale
> settings and what string did you enter for the date?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Fri, July 27, 2018 10:55 am, dlbonline wrote:
> John,
>
> I have just discovered that the detail transactions show up in subaccounts
> to the asset, which is OK.  And the balance of the asset reflects those
> subaccounts.  Also OK.  But, they don’t show up in the asset ledger
> itself.  So maybe my problem is asking too much of the ledger.  Perhaps
> there is a report that will give me a statement of all transactions
> against the asset (income and expense)?

This is the correct behavior.  You told it to put the split into
A:B:C:D:E, which is where it is.  You wont see the actual transaction in
A:B, or A:B:C, or A:B:C:D -- but the value will be wrapped up in the
account total in the Chart of Accounts and in the reports.

If you want to see all the transactions, then you can use the Right-Click
-> Open Subaccounts feature on, e.g., A:B -- which will open the B account
and show all the transactions from B, as well as all the transactions in
all its subaccounts.

> David Briggs
> dlbonl...@cox.net
> 918 625 9170

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Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill

[John Ralls]

David,

Of course they don’t show up in the ledger, you posted them to sub-accounts so 
they show up in those ledgers. As you noted in your reply to Derek, the totals 
roll up into the parent accounts on the accounts page; they’ll do the same in 
most reports.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:55 AM, dlbonline  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> I have just discovered that the detail transactions show up in subaccounts to 
> the asset, which is OK.  And the balance of the asset reflects those 
> subaccounts.  Also OK.  But, they don’t show up in the asset ledger itself.  
> So maybe my problem is asking too much of the ledger.  Perhaps there is a 
> report that will give me a statement of all transactions against the asset 
> (income and expense)?
> 
> David Briggs
> dlbonl...@cox.net 
> 918 625 9170 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Ralls [mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us ] 
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:04 AM
> To: dlbonl...@cox.net 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting Asset expenses via Vendor Bill
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:01 PM, dlbonline  wrote:
>> 
>> I am new to gnuCash, so I hope this is not already asked and answered.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have rental and flip property that carry expenses against an asset.  
>> For example, I have a painter paint a house for me.  He sends an 
>> invoice,  I enter the invoice into the Business->vendor->New Bill 
>> form.  In the "Expense Account" column, I enter the following account 
>> (which does exist in the COA) Assets:Fixed Assets:House:473 
>> Darlington:Paint.  After the bill is posted, the transaction does not show 
>> up on the Asset's ledger.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This appears to work if I enter the "Expense Account" as an existing 
>> expense account.  For example Expenses:Home Repair:Paint.  But, this 
>> does not show up on the ledger for the Asset, which is ultimately what I 
>> need.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a way to accomplish this transaction?
> 
> I just created a vendor bill with assets:house as the “expense account” and 
> posted it; it was added to the house account as expected. What did you do 
> differently?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Logs.

[Adrien Monteleone]

You could also create a log directory wherever you store the account book and 
then periodically dump them in it just to declutter. But then if you set a log 
TTL GC probably won’t see them to remove the old ones. Personally, I’d prefer 
if GC used the OS log facilities than the present ‘one big pile along with my 
files’ method. But I’m sure there is a reason for it.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:32 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
> I am wondering why the log files bother you.  Possibly you have done
> something like saving the accounts file on the desktop, so you see the log
> files there.  If so then that is a bad plan.  Instead I suggest making a
> folder specifically for the accounts file and using File > Save As to save
> it there.  Then you can leave the log file setting at the default and they
> will be no bother, but will be there in case you need them.
> 
> Colin
> 
> On 26 July 2018 at 21:27, varda241--- via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
>> Will try 1 day. ThanksSent from my Verizon ASUS
>> tablet
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> From:Derek Atkins 
>> Sent:Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:44 -0400
>> To:varda241 via gnucash-user 
>> Cc:David Carlson ,varda241 
>> Subject:Re: [GNC] Logs.
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> varda241 via gnucash-user  writes:
>>> 
 
 It is not just one or two. There are logs created each time I open the
 program
>>> 
>>> Which "log" are you talking about?
>>> 
>>> Are you talking about the transaction logs?
>>> Or are you talking about the runtime (trace file) logs?
>>> 
>>> There is no way to turn off transaction logs -- all you can do is define
>>> how long they will be kept.  The shortest you can set that to is 1 day.
>>> If you set it to 0 it will keep them forever.
>>> 
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>>> -derek
>>> 
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Re: [GNC] Logs.

[Adrien Monteleone]

I forgot to mention, I think the logs are only created per startup, so if you 
never close the app like I don’t...

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 10:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> You could also create a log directory wherever you store the account book and 
> then periodically dump them in it just to declutter. But then if you set a 
> log TTL GC probably won’t see them to remove the old ones. Personally, I’d 
> prefer if GC used the OS log facilities than the present ‘one big pile along 
> with my files’ method. But I’m sure there is a reason for it.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:32 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> I am wondering why the log files bother you.  Possibly you have done
>> something like saving the accounts file on the desktop, so you see the log
>> files there.  If so then that is a bad plan.  Instead I suggest making a
>> folder specifically for the accounts file and using File > Save As to save
>> it there.  Then you can leave the log file setting at the default and they
>> will be no bother, but will be there in case you need them.
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 26 July 2018 at 21:27, varda241--- via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Will try 1 day. ThanksSent from my Verizon ASUS
>>> tablet
>>> 
>>>  Original Message 
>>> From:Derek Atkins 
>>> Sent:Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:44 -0400
>>> To:varda241 via gnucash-user 
>>> Cc:David Carlson ,varda241 
>>> Subject:Re: [GNC] Logs.
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 varda241 via gnucash-user  writes:
 
> 
> It is not just one or two. There are logs created each time I open the
> program
 
 Which "log" are you talking about?
 
 Are you talking about the transaction logs?
 Or are you talking about the runtime (trace file) logs?
 
 There is no way to turn off transaction logs -- all you can do is define
 how long they will be kept.  The shortest you can set that to is 1 day.
 If you set it to 0 it will keep them forever.
 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yep, a bug for sure. I’m curious why GC creates its own file/print dialogs when 
they could instead call the native OS dialogs. To me, that’s the bug and the 
problem in this thread would also be solved. It’s also less code to maintain.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 6:06 PM, DaveC49  wrote:
> 
> Adrien, David,
> 
> The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based.
> Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it directly
> or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file
> open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point when
> you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
> directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo. Not
> being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
> 
> On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750 and
> the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions. 
> 
> The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3 dialog
> does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the directories
> under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in GnuCash
> either.
> 
> if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
> 
> David Cousens
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)

[Adrien Monteleone]

But if he’s subscribed to the list, why would a SMTP based reply from his 
subscribed address get held? I would think in that case Nabble isn’t being used 
so it shouldn’t trigger the moderation flag.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 4:32 AM, Liz  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:13:57 -0500 (CDT)
> DaveC49  wrote:
> 
>> I do use Nabble and also get the user list posts by email but as I am
>> in Australia I sometiimes notice there is a long delay associated
>> with being in this timezone. I'm not sure where the moderators are
>> located but, I tend to post usually in the morning AEST (UTC -10:00)
>> and my posts don't often appear on Nabble, until the next morning so
>> often the issue has been dealt with by the time a post gets up. We
>> need to be aware that not all responders are necessarily in the same
>> time zone.
>> 
>> This never seemed to be a problem a couple of years ago but maybe the
>> location of the moderator(s) has changed and/or they only have a
>> narrow time window available to them to lookover posts. Again no
>> criticism of the moderators intended or to be inferred.  I have never
>> really expected immediate responses in any case so I don't find it
>> too much of a problem but it does make conversations on a topic
>> difficult at times.
>> 
>> The delay is not just whether one is subscribed to the mail  lists or
>> not though. I am subscribed to both gnucash-dev and gnucash-user but
>> use Nabble a lot of the time and my posts to both are still passed
>> through a moderator and it does not matter whether I reply using
>> Nabble online or by email I still receive an email saying my post is
>> awaiting moderation.
>> 
>> David Cousens
> 
> I have sent David a personal email explaining why this is so. The
> moderator and the poster are actually in the same time zone, but one is
> retired and one works, so we use the internet at different times.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)

[Adrien Monteleone]

I certainly never meant to imply conversations need immediate replies. We’re 
all over the planet and are awake at different instances in time. But I’ve 
noticed threads that proceed as if some posts aren’t being seen at the time a 
user makes a reply, and indeed, as DavidT noted, perhaps they aren’t based on 
this delay issue which was my suspicion.

Certainly, I don’t think this is something that needs to be (or even could be) 
addressed, it was just a curiosity.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:13 PM, DaveC49  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> I do use Nabble and also get the user list posts by email but as I am in
> Australia I sometiimes notice there is a long delay associated with being in
> this timezone. I'm not sure where the moderators are located but, I tend to
> post usually in the morning AEST (UTC -10:00) and my posts don't often
> appear on Nabble, until the next morning so often the issue has been dealt
> with by the time a post gets up. We need to be aware that not all responders
> are necessarily in the same time zone.
> 
> This never seemed to be a problem a couple of years ago but maybe the
> location of the moderator(s) has changed and/or they only have a narrow time
> window available to them to lookover posts. Again no criticism of the
> moderators intended or to be inferred.  I have never really expected
> immediate responses in any case so I don't find it too much of a problem but
> it does make conversations on a topic difficult at times.
> 
> The delay is not just whether one is subscribed to the mail  lists or not
> though. I am subscribed to both gnucash-dev and gnucash-user but use Nabble
> a lot of the time and my posts to both are still passed through a moderator
> and it does not matter whether I reply using Nabble online or by email I
> still receive an email saying my post is awaiting moderation.
> 
> David Cousens
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[David Carlson]

If I recall, there was an issue unique to another O S, possibly Windows
that required special treatment in the past.  Maybe still true.

I am not a developer  tho so don't quote me.

David C

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 10:58 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Yep, a bug for sure. I’m curious why GC creates its own file/print dialogs
> when they could instead call the native OS dialogs. To me, that’s the bug
> and the problem in this thread would also be solved. It’s also less code to
> maintain.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jul 26, 2018, at 6:06 PM, DaveC49  wrote:
> >
> > Adrien, David,
> >
> > The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based.
> > Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it
> directly
> > or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file
> > open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point when
> > you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
> > directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo.
> Not
> > being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
> >
> > On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750
> and
> > the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions.
> >
> > The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3
> dialog
> > does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the directories
> > under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in GnuCash
> > either.
> >
> > if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
> >
> > David Cousens
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Logs.

[John Ralls]

Syslog isn't really appropriate for the transaction logs. They're created as a 
partial fallback for cases where GnuCash or your computer fails between saves 
with the XML backend: You can use File>Import>Replay GnuCash .log file... to 
reinsert any transactions that were created or edited between the last save and 
the crash. There's really no point to keeping them around and also no point to 
them at all with a SQL backend which commits all edits (not just transactions) 
immediately but the transaction logging logic is in a place that can't tell 
what backend is in use. It's an ancient and somewhat obsolete corner of GnuCash 
that would have been cleaned up a long time ago had we sufficient resources to 
do so.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> You could also create a log directory wherever you store the account book and 
> then periodically dump them in it just to declutter. But then if you set a 
> log TTL GC probably won’t see them to remove the old ones. Personally, I’d 
> prefer if GC used the OS log facilities than the present ‘one big pile along 
> with my files’ method. But I’m sure there is a reason for it.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:32 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> I am wondering why the log files bother you.  Possibly you have done
>> something like saving the accounts file on the desktop, so you see the log
>> files there.  If so then that is a bad plan.  Instead I suggest making a
>> folder specifically for the accounts file and using File > Save As to save
>> it there.  Then you can leave the log file setting at the default and they
>> will be no bother, but will be there in case you need them.
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 26 July 2018 at 21:27, varda241--- via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Will try 1 day. ThanksSent from my Verizon ASUS
>>> tablet
>>> 
>>>  Original Message 
>>> From:Derek Atkins 
>>> Sent:Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:44 -0400
>>> To:varda241 via gnucash-user 
>>> Cc:David Carlson ,varda241 
>>> Subject:Re: [GNC] Logs.
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 varda241 via gnucash-user  writes:
 
> 
> It is not just one or two. There are logs created each time I open the
> program
 
 Which "log" are you talking about?
 
 Are you talking about the transaction logs?
 Or are you talking about the runtime (trace file) logs?
 
 There is no way to turn off transaction logs -- all you can do is define
 how long they will be kept.  The shortest you can set that to is 1 day.
 If you set it to 0 it will keep them forever.
 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[John Ralls]

Yes, a bug, but perhaps in Ubuntu and its derivatives rather than GnuCash, or 
perhaps the Ubuntu package. Using a Debian Stable VM in the GnuCash File>Open 
dialog, when I select "Computer" from "Other Locations" I get a full listing of 
my root directory and have no trouble navigating the /media directory.

If I mount a USB drive it shows up as its own item in the sidebar which, when 
selected, reveals its path as /media/john/74AB-2AA0. I can navigate to that 
path starting from the root directory as well as use the sidebar item.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2018, at 8:55 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep, a bug for sure. I’m curious why GC creates its own file/print dialogs 
> when they could instead call the native OS dialogs. To me, that’s the bug and 
> the problem in this thread would also be solved. It’s also less code to 
> maintain.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2018, at 6:06 PM, DaveC49  wrote:
>> 
>> Adrien, David,
>> 
>> The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based.
>> Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it directly
>> or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file
>> open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point when
>> you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
>> directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo. Not
>> being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
>> 
>> On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750 and
>> the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions. 
>> 
>> The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3 dialog
>> does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the directories
>> under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in GnuCash
>> either.
>> 
>> if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
>> 
>> David Cousens
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Logs.

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn’t referring so much to syslog facility (my 
poor word choice) but to the /var/log, ~/Library/Logs, %AppData% locations for 
storing them.

So if I get this right, they’re just for replaying from last crash, which of 
course would be after the last open, so previous logs from previous sessions 
are pointless then? (you wouldn’t need to replay a successfully closed session 
that is)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 11:51 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Syslog isn't really appropriate for the transaction logs. They're created as 
> a partial fallback for cases where GnuCash or your computer fails between 
> saves with the XML backend: You can use File>Import>Replay GnuCash .log 
> file... to reinsert any transactions that were created or edited between the 
> last save and the crash. There's really no point to keeping them around and 
> also no point to them at all with a SQL backend which commits all edits (not 
> just transactions) immediately but the transaction logging logic is in a 
> place that can't tell what backend is in use. It's an ancient and somewhat 
> obsolete corner of GnuCash that would have been cleaned up a long time ago 
> had we sufficient resources to do so.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You could also create a log directory wherever you store the account book 
>> and then periodically dump them in it just to declutter. But then if you set 
>> a log TTL GC probably won’t see them to remove the old ones. Personally, I’d 
>> prefer if GC used the OS log facilities than the present ‘one big pile along 
>> with my files’ method. But I’m sure there is a reason for it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:32 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am wondering why the log files bother you.  Possibly you have done
>>> something like saving the accounts file on the desktop, so you see the log
>>> files there.  If so then that is a bad plan.  Instead I suggest making a
>>> folder specifically for the accounts file and using File > Save As to save
>>> it there.  Then you can leave the log file setting at the default and they
>>> will be no bother, but will be there in case you need them.
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 26 July 2018 at 21:27, varda241--- via gnucash-user <
>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>> 
 Will try 1 day. ThanksSent from my Verizon ASUS
 tablet
 
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 From:Derek Atkins 
 Sent:Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:44 -0400
 To:varda241 via gnucash-user 
 Cc:David Carlson ,varda241 
 Subject:Re: [GNC] Logs.
 
> Hi,
> 
> varda241 via gnucash-user  writes:
> 
>> 
>> It is not just one or two. There are logs created each time I open the
>> program
> 
> Which "log" are you talking about?
> 
> Are you talking about the transaction logs?
> Or are you talking about the runtime (trace file) logs?
> 
> There is no way to turn off transaction logs -- all you can do is define
> how long they will be kept.  The shortest you can set that to is 1 day.
> If you set it to 0 it will keep them forever.
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[Colin Law]

I am running 2.1.19 from the Ubuntu repo on Ubuntu 18.04 and can click File
> Open, then select File System in the left hand pane of the dialog and can
browse to any of the root directories with no problem.

Colin

On 27 July 2018 at 00:06, DaveC49  wrote:

> Adrien, David,
>
> The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based.
> Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it directly
> or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file
> open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point when
> you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
> directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo. Not
> being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
>
>  On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750
> and
> the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions.
>
> The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3
> dialog
> does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the directories
> under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in GnuCash
> either.
>
> if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
>
> David Cousens
>
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[Colin Law]

On 27 July 2018 at 18:23, Colin Law  wrote:

> I am running 2.1.19 from the Ubuntu repo on Ubuntu 18.04 and can click
> File > Open, then select File System in the left hand pane of the dialog
> and can browse to any of the root directories with no problem.
>

That is 2.6.19 of course.

Colin


>
> Colin
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 00:06, DaveC49  wrote:
>
>> Adrien, David,
>>
>> The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04 based.
>> Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it directly
>> or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash file
>> open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point when
>> you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
>> directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo. Not
>> being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
>>
>>  On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750
>> and
>> the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions.
>>
>> The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3
>> dialog
>> does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the directories
>> under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in GnuCash
>> either.
>>
>> if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
>>
>> David Cousens
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[David Carlson]

Interesting! when running GnuCash locally in the Ubuntu 16.04 Unity desktop
the network drive does appear in the GnuCash File>Open dialog, but when
running it remotely in Windows with XMing/PuTTY via SSH the network drive
is not visible in the GnuCash File>Open dialog.

David C

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Colin Law  wrote:

> On 27 July 2018 at 18:23, Colin Law  wrote:
>
> > I am running 2.1.19 from the Ubuntu repo on Ubuntu 18.04 and can click
> > File > Open, then select File System in the left hand pane of the dialog
> > and can browse to any of the root directories with no problem.
> >
>
> That is 2.6.19 of course.
>
> Colin
>
>
> >
> > Colin
> >
> > On 27 July 2018 at 00:06, DaveC49  wrote:
> >
> >> Adrien, David,
> >>
> >> The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04
> based.
> >> Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it
> directly
> >> or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash
> file
> >> open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point
> when
> >> you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
> >> directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo.
> Not
> >> being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
> >>
> >>  On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750
> >> and
> >> the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions.
> >>
> >> The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3
> >> dialog
> >> does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the
> directories
> >> under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in
> GnuCash
> >> either.
> >>
> >> if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
> >>
> >> David Cousens
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

[David Carlson]

Hugh,

There has been a lot of discussion in this thread that does not apply to
your use case.  The Trial Balance Report should not show any unrealized
gain if you do not have any accounts that are denominated in any currency
other than that defined by your Locale.  Since you report that it does,
there may be an issue with settings on your computer.

Do not assume that GnuCash will not work for you.  Please tell us what
settings you used to change the default from US dollars to your local
currency.

David C

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:49 PM, H M MacDonald OBE 
wrote:

> We aren’t a business – we are a social club.  Most of our income is
> derived from subscriptions or donations or ticket payments for our social
> functions.   Our expenditure is on running costs like postage, stationery
> and hotel charges for meals and functions.  The profit is the overall
> profit when the expenditure is deducted from the income.   The software is
> fine for recording everything and for calculating the profit and loss but
> at the year end we will need to produce a balance sheet and that’s where
> the problem appears to come up.  I’m really sorry if I’m wasting all your
> time – you’ve all been really helpful and maybe its just that gnucash won’t
> do what we expect.
>
> From: gnucash-user  gnucash.org> on behalf of David Carlson 
> Date: Friday, 27 July 2018 at 14:19
> To: Hugh MacDonald OBE 
> Cc: Gnucash Users , Stan Brown <
> the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
>
> If you sold an asset that is valued in units other than your currency then
> read the chapter of the manual about capital gains about how to enter your
> profit.
>
> Otherwise tell us more about the transaction where that profit appeared.
>
> David C
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 4:11 AM H M MacDonald OBE 
> wrote:
>
> My accounts are showing a profit of £20.99  which shows as an Imbalance of
> £20.99.  Sorry to be a bit slow on all of this but are folk saying that the
> £20.99 needs to be added to current assets/equity to make the trial
> balance?
> I¹ve tried that and it still fails.  It can¹t be added to the income  as a
> profit since that will make the profit double.  Clearly there¹s something
> I¹m still not getting ŠŠŠ
>
> Thanks to everyone for their input so far.
>
> From:  gnucash-user
>  on behalf of
> Stan
> Brown 
> Date:  Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 13:21
> To:  GnuCash User List 
> Subject:  Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
>
> David T. wrote:
>
> >  For those who *do* have such holdings, a balanced transaction will
> still fail
> >  the trial balance if the gain or loss isn?t entered. In this instance,
> there
> >  will be no entries in IMBALANCE-XXX, since each transaction balances.
> >  Example: buy 10 shares of X for $100, using cash from your checking
> account
> >  (credit/debit of $100). Then sell those shares for $150 (debit/credit of
> > $150).
> >  Both transaction balance?but where did that extra cash come from?
> Without
> >  entering the gain of $50 as income, the Trial balance will fail.
>
> Is that really what happens?  I can't understand why, if it does. Yes, you
> end up with an extra $50 in cash, and you also end up with MINUS $50 in the
> investment: the original debit of $100, and the sale credit of $50, leaving
> a credit (minus) balance of $50. As far as I can see, the trial balance
> still balances.
>
> Of course, a negative balance in an investment account should raise a red
> flag when (if) yo notice it: "Oops, I forgot to enter the gain as a
> transaction." But I don't see how it should make the trial balance fail.
>
> BTW, instead of a separate transaction, I might record the gain as a split:
> Assets:Cash $150 debit
> Assets:Investment $100 credit
> Income:Gain on investments $50 credit
>
> Is there any disadvantage to doing that, versus two transactions?
> Assets:Investment $50 debit
> Income:Gain on Investments $50 credit
> Assets:Cash $150 debit
> Assets::Investment $150 credit
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[Adrien Monteleone]

You were running it on a remote machine? Why wouldn’t you always run it locally 
and just connect to the network drive? (as you just experimented with)

Though, this would mean the problem is with Windows, not Ubuntu as you weren’t 
originally running it on Ubuntu.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 5:03 PM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> Interesting! when running GnuCash locally in the Ubuntu 16.04 Unity desktop
> the network drive does appear in the GnuCash File>Open dialog, but when
> running it remotely in Windows with XMing/PuTTY via SSH the network drive
> is not visible in the GnuCash File>Open dialog.
> 
> David C
> 
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
>> On 27 July 2018 at 18:23, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am running 2.1.19 from the Ubuntu repo on Ubuntu 18.04 and can click
>>> File > Open, then select File System in the left hand pane of the dialog
>>> and can browse to any of the root directories with no problem.
>>> 
>> 
>> That is 2.6.19 of course.
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 27 July 2018 at 00:06, DaveC49  wrote:
>>> 
 Adrien, David,
 
 The same issue occurs in Linux Mint 19(Tara) which is Ubuntu 18.04
>> based.
 Nemo (file explorer)  can see the mounted USB stick and access it
>> directly
 or via the /media// mount point for the device but the Gnucash
>> file
 open dialog neither sees the USB stick or /media// mount point
>> when
 you click on other locations. It only lists a restricted set of the
 directories under / by comparison with what can be accessed from Nemo.
>> Not
 being able to access the /media mount points would qualify as a bug.
 
 On LM19 /media has 755 permissions, the user directory under it has 750
 and
 the mounted USB stick has 755 permissions.
 
 The file->Open dialog in LibreOffice which looks to be a similar GTK3
 dialog
 does display the USB stick in the sidebar and it sees all the
>> directories
 under / as well as any networked locations which don't show up in
>> GnuCash
 either.
 
 if no-one has already filked a bug i will put one in later today.
 
 David Cousens
 
 
 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[David Cousens]

Hi John,

Have posted it as Bug 796789 for V3.2. Other users with other OS and GnuCash
versions might like to comment on behavior on their systems which may help
with tracking down the problem. Not sure whether it is a bug in Ubuntu and
derivatives but Libre Office, GIMP with similar dialogs all seem to be able
to access the mounted USB sticks and network locations in the file open
dialogs.

Cheers
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Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

[David Cousens]

Hugh,

When you are creating the transaction for the sale if you are using the
automated process as described in the Tutorial and Concepts Guide
(https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/index.html) section 9.7 on
selling shares Gnucash will automatically assign the profit/gain on the
transaction to either an Orphan_Gains_CCC (where CCC is the designator for
the currency the stock is in) if using the automated scrub facility or to
the Imbalance account if using the manual procedure described in Section
9.7. This is because GnuCash has no way of knowing what Income account you
may want to assign the profit/loss to so it uses these default accounts to
indicate that a transaction has a component which has not been assigned to a
specific account in your Chart of Accounts. Any entries which appear in the
Orphan or Imbalance accounts need to be reassigned to specific accounts as
there balances are only not zero when an accounting error/unassigned
transaction component has occurred. Their purpose is to highlight such
transactions for correction.

You have to reassign the amount that GnuCash has assigned to either of these
accounts  by default to an appropriate Income account you have set up for
recording  realized share gains and losses.  To do this if you open the
transaction in the Asset register which recorded the shares/security you
sold, (note I am working with the Auto-split ledger option set in the
Register defaults tab of the Edit preferences which opens and displays all
splits of a transaction). You will see the accounts that the various splits
of the transaction have been assigned to in a column to the right of the
screen befor the debits and credits to the accounts are listed. 

There should be three entries/splits for your transaction. The first will be
a credit to the asset account which recorded your ownership of the
securities for the value of the securities (normally the price you paid but
if you are an active trader it may be a calculation based on either a first
in-first out basis or a last-in first out basis where your sale covers
multiple lots of securities purchased at different times. The second will be
a debit to your Asset:bank account (or similar eg a brokerage account) which
will be for the amount for whichyou sold the securities. The third entry
will be to either the Imbalance account or an Orphan-Gains account with a
credit for the difference between the purchase and sale prices.

To reassign it, click on the Imbalance or Orphan Gains account and it will
open a drop down list from which you can select an Income account to which
you want to assign the profit. Something like Income:Securities or similar.
You may need to create an appropriate account under the Income top level
heading in your Accounts list if one doesn't exist already.

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Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

[H Millar MacDonald OBE]

Hi David

Thanks.  I was worrying  that I just wasn’t getting it.   I downloaded the 
software and it offers an option to change currency to sterling which I did.  
It was that simple so I haven’t do e any conversions from USD.

Thanks for your patience.

> On 27 Jul 2018, at 23:14, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Hugh,
> 
> There has been a lot of discussion in this thread that does not apply to
> your use case.  The Trial Balance Report should not show any unrealized
> gain if you do not have any accounts that are denominated in any currency
> other than that defined by your Locale.  Since you report that it does,
> there may be an issue with settings on your computer.
> 
> Do not assume that GnuCash will not work for you.  Please tell us what
> settings you used to change the default from US dollars to your local
> currency.
> 
> David C
> 
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:49 PM, H M MacDonald OBE 
> wrote:
> 
>> We aren’t a business – we are a social club.  Most of our income is
>> derived from subscriptions or donations or ticket payments for our social
>> functions.   Our expenditure is on running costs like postage, stationery
>> and hotel charges for meals and functions.  The profit is the overall
>> profit when the expenditure is deducted from the income.   The software is
>> fine for recording everything and for calculating the profit and loss but
>> at the year end we will need to produce a balance sheet and that’s where
>> the problem appears to come up.  I’m really sorry if I’m wasting all your
>> time – you’ve all been really helpful and maybe its just that gnucash won’t
>> do what we expect.
>> 
>> From: gnucash-user > gnucash.org> on behalf of David Carlson 
>> Date: Friday, 27 July 2018 at 14:19
>> To: Hugh MacDonald OBE 
>> Cc: Gnucash Users , Stan Brown <
>> the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
>> 
>> If you sold an asset that is valued in units other than your currency then
>> read the chapter of the manual about capital gains about how to enter your
>> profit.
>> 
>> Otherwise tell us more about the transaction where that profit appeared.
>> 
>> David C
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 4:11 AM H M MacDonald OBE 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My accounts are showing a profit of £20.99  which shows as an Imbalance of
>> £20.99.  Sorry to be a bit slow on all of this but are folk saying that the
>> £20.99 needs to be added to current assets/equity to make the trial
>> balance?
>> I¹ve tried that and it still fails.  It can¹t be added to the income  as a
>> profit since that will make the profit double.  Clearly there¹s something
>> I¹m still not getting ŠŠŠ
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone for their input so far.
>> 
>> From:  gnucash-user
>>  on behalf of
>> Stan
>> Brown 
>> Date:  Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 13:21
>> To:  GnuCash User List 
>> Subject:  Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
>> 
>> David T. wrote:
>> 
>>> For those who *do* have such holdings, a balanced transaction will
>> still fail
>>> the trial balance if the gain or loss isn?t entered. In this instance,
>> there
>>> will be no entries in IMBALANCE-XXX, since each transaction balances.
>>> Example: buy 10 shares of X for $100, using cash from your checking
>> account
>>> (credit/debit of $100). Then sell those shares for $150 (debit/credit of
>>> $150).
>>> Both transaction balance?but where did that extra cash come from?
>> Without
>>> entering the gain of $50 as income, the Trial balance will fail.
>> 
>> Is that really what happens?  I can't understand why, if it does. Yes, you
>> end up with an extra $50 in cash, and you also end up with MINUS $50 in the
>> investment: the original debit of $100, and the sale credit of $50, leaving
>> a credit (minus) balance of $50. As far as I can see, the trial balance
>> still balances.
>> 
>> Of course, a negative balance in an investment account should raise a red
>> flag when (if) yo notice it: "Oops, I forgot to enter the gain as a
>> transaction." But I don't see how it should make the trial balance fail.
>> 
>> BTW, instead of a separate transaction, I might record the gain as a split:
>> Assets:Cash $150 debit
>> Assets:Investment $100 credit
>> Income:Gain on investments $50 credit
>> 
>> Is there any disadvantage to doing that, versus two transactions?
>> Assets:Investment $50 debit
>> Income:Gain on Investments $50 credit
>> Assets:Cash $150 debit
>> Assets::Investment $150 credit
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Logs.

[John Ralls]

Adrien,

/var/log generally belongs to syslog (in the generic sense; most systems have a 
better facility these days). It is also generally not user-readable, never mind 
writable.

Yes, you get it right. They're not really log files. The trace file is the real 
log file.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. I wasn’t referring so much to syslog facility (my 
> poor word choice) but to the /var/log, ~/Library/Logs, %AppData% locations 
> for storing them.
> 
> So if I get this right, they’re just for replaying from last crash, which of 
> course would be after the last open, so previous logs from previous sessions 
> are pointless then? (you wouldn’t need to replay a successfully closed 
> session that is)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 11:51 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Syslog isn't really appropriate for the transaction logs. They're created as 
>> a partial fallback for cases where GnuCash or your computer fails between 
>> saves with the XML backend: You can use File>Import>Replay GnuCash .log 
>> file... to reinsert any transactions that were created or edited between the 
>> last save and the crash. There's really no point to keeping them around and 
>> also no point to them at all with a SQL backend which commits all edits (not 
>> just transactions) immediately but the transaction logging logic is in a 
>> place that can't tell what backend is in use. It's an ancient and somewhat 
>> obsolete corner of GnuCash that would have been cleaned up a long time ago 
>> had we sufficient resources to do so.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You could also create a log directory wherever you store the account book 
>>> and then periodically dump them in it just to declutter. But then if you 
>>> set a log TTL GC probably won’t see them to remove the old ones. 
>>> Personally, I’d prefer if GC used the OS log facilities than the present 
>>> ‘one big pile along with my files’ method. But I’m sure there is a reason 
>>> for it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>> 
 On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:32 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
 
 I am wondering why the log files bother you.  Possibly you have done
 something like saving the accounts file on the desktop, so you see the log
 files there.  If so then that is a bad plan.  Instead I suggest making a
 folder specifically for the accounts file and using File > Save As to save
 it there.  Then you can leave the log file setting at the default and they
 will be no bother, but will be there in case you need them.
 
 Colin
 
 On 26 July 2018 at 21:27, varda241--- via gnucash-user <
 gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
 
> Will try 1 day. ThanksSent from my Verizon ASUS
> tablet
> 
>  Original Message 
> From:Derek Atkins 
> Sent:Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:55:44 -0400
> To:varda241 via gnucash-user 
> Cc:David Carlson ,varda241 
> Subject:Re: [GNC] Logs.
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> varda241 via gnucash-user  writes:
>> 
>>> 
>>> It is not just one or two. There are logs created each time I open the
>>> program
>> 
>> Which "log" are you talking about?
>> 
>> Are you talking about the transaction logs?
>> Or are you talking about the runtime (trace file) logs?
>> 
>> There is no way to turn off transaction logs -- all you can do is define
>> how long they will be kept.  The shortest you can set that to is 1 day.
>> If you set it to 0 it will keep them forever.
>> 
>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>> 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[John Ralls]

David,

LibreOffice has it's own GUI toolkit; it can wrap Gtk or Qt or it can use its 
own dialogs. Are you sure that GIMP is on Gtk3? I thought that they were still 
working on converting.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2018, at 3:46 PM, David Cousens  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Have posted it as Bug 796789 for V3.2. Other users with other OS and GnuCash
> versions might like to comment on behavior on their systems which may help
> with tracking down the problem. Not sure whether it is a bug in Ubuntu and
> derivatives but Libre Office, GIMP with similar dialogs all seem to be able
> to access the mounted USB sticks and network locations in the file open
> dialogs.
> 
> Cheers
> David Cousens
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 07/27/2018 03:46 PM, David Cousens wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Have posted it as Bug 796789 for V3.2. Other users with other OS and GnuCash
> versions might like to comment on behavior on their systems which may help
> with tracking down the problem. Not sure whether it is a bug in Ubuntu and
> derivatives but Libre Office, GIMP with similar dialogs all seem to be able
> to access the mounted USB sticks and network locations in the file open
> dialogs.
>
> Cheers
> David Cousens
>
Thunderbird on Ubuntu (all versions I've had) is not able to see a
Windows mounted share.  I have to copy the file over using the file
manager.  Have not tried GnuCash though.

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Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance

[David Carlson]

Hugh,

Going back to your profit of £20.99.

Does the Trial Balance report identify it as an unrealized gain?

Have you tried running the Trial Balance report for earlier dates to
establish the date when it appeared?  That should help you find the
transaction and thus the problem that caused it.  Then you may find that
some transaction has unintentionally introduced an account not denominated
in sterling or possibly even a bug in GnuCash (Can't say that never
happened).

David C

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:40 PM, H Millar MacDonald OBE <
spahonsec...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David
>
> Thanks.  I was worrying  that I just wasn’t getting it.   I downloaded the
> software and it offers an option to change currency to sterling which I
> did.  It was that simple so I haven’t do e any conversions from USD.
>
> Thanks for your patience.
>
> > On 27 Jul 2018, at 23:14, David Carlson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hugh,
> >
> > There has been a lot of discussion in this thread that does not apply to
> > your use case.  The Trial Balance Report should not show any unrealized
> > gain if you do not have any accounts that are denominated in any currency
> > other than that defined by your Locale.  Since you report that it does,
> > there may be an issue with settings on your computer.
> >
> > Do not assume that GnuCash will not work for you.  Please tell us what
> > settings you used to change the default from US dollars to your local
> > currency.
> >
> > David C
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:49 PM, H M MacDonald OBE <
> sassunach...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We aren’t a business – we are a social club.  Most of our income is
> >> derived from subscriptions or donations or ticket payments for our
> social
> >> functions.   Our expenditure is on running costs like postage,
> stationery
> >> and hotel charges for meals and functions.  The profit is the overall
> >> profit when the expenditure is deducted from the income.   The software
> is
> >> fine for recording everything and for calculating the profit and loss
> but
> >> at the year end we will need to produce a balance sheet and that’s where
> >> the problem appears to come up.  I’m really sorry if I’m wasting all
> your
> >> time – you’ve all been really helpful and maybe its just that gnucash
> won’t
> >> do what we expect.
> >>
> >> From: gnucash-user  >> gnucash.org> on behalf of David Carlson 
> >> Date: Friday, 27 July 2018 at 14:19
> >> To: Hugh MacDonald OBE 
> >> Cc: Gnucash Users , Stan Brown <
> >> the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
> >>
> >> If you sold an asset that is valued in units other than your currency
> then
> >> read the chapter of the manual about capital gains about how to enter
> your
> >> profit.
> >>
> >> Otherwise tell us more about the transaction where that profit appeared.
> >>
> >> David C
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 4:11 AM H M MacDonald OBE  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> My accounts are showing a profit of £20.99  which shows as an Imbalance
> of
> >> £20.99.  Sorry to be a bit slow on all of this but are folk saying that
> the
> >> £20.99 needs to be added to current assets/equity to make the trial
> >> balance?
> >> I¹ve tried that and it still fails.  It can¹t be added to the income
> as a
> >> profit since that will make the profit double.  Clearly there¹s
> something
> >> I¹m still not getting ŠŠŠ
> >>
> >> Thanks to everyone for their input so far.
> >>
> >> From:  gnucash-user
> >>  on behalf of
> >> Stan
> >> Brown 
> >> Date:  Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 13:21
> >> To:  GnuCash User List 
> >> Subject:  Re: [GNC] Getting My Account To Trial Balance
> >>
> >> David T. wrote:
> >>
> >>> For those who *do* have such holdings, a balanced transaction will
> >> still fail
> >>> the trial balance if the gain or loss isn?t entered. In this instance,
> >> there
> >>> will be no entries in IMBALANCE-XXX, since each transaction balances.
> >>> Example: buy 10 shares of X for $100, using cash from your checking
> >> account
> >>> (credit/debit of $100). Then sell those shares for $150 (debit/credit
> of
> >>> $150).
> >>> Both transaction balance?but where did that extra cash come from?
> >> Without
> >>> entering the gain of $50 as income, the Trial balance will fail.
> >>
> >> Is that really what happens?  I can't understand why, if it does. Yes,
> you
> >> end up with an extra $50 in cash, and you also end up with MINUS $50 in
> the
> >> investment: the original debit of $100, and the sale credit of $50,
> leaving
> >> a credit (minus) balance of $50. As far as I can see, the trial balance
> >> still balances.
> >>
> >> Of course, a negative balance in an investment account should raise a
> red
> >> flag when (if) yo notice it: "Oops, I forgot to enter the gain as a
> >> transaction." But I don't see how it should make the trial balance fail.
> >>
> >> BTW, instead of a separate transaction, I might record the gain as a
> split:
> >> Assets:Cash $150 debit
> >> Assets:Investment $100

Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[David Cousens]

John,

I'm not really sure what GIMP uses as a UI toolkit. I showed the Libre-
Office one primarily because on my system it was almost identical in
appearance and function to the dialog window from Gnucash apart from
the missing USB mount and network mounts. I have explored a few other
(non GTK) apps I use and whether they see the network an USB mounts is
highly variable. As another user pointed out it isn't exactly a show
stopper as you can always transfer a file elsewhere using Nemo or the
OS facilities. 

I'm also not very familiar with GTK3 either at this stage. I would
guess they wrap the basic OS file and network access routines. I'll
have a bit of a dig around the documentation and see if I can unearth
anything useful. Firefox which uses GTK3 has reported network access
issues in its file dialog on AskUbuntu (https://askubuntu.com/questions
/764272/upload-dialogs-for-firefox-and-chrome-now-differ-ffs-doesnt-
include-network-d). This post on unix  stack exchange, https://unix.sta
ckexchange.com/questions/198996/prevent-the-gtk-file-dialog-from-
listing-mount-points,  indicates that there is a way of stopping GTK
from accessing mounted devices by the udev configuration, so maybe I
can use the info to enable it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/3
04345 for Audacious also reports similar problems and a fix. 

Will give it a try later today. I have some of the network mounts done
in fstab and others for devices which may or may not be available using
autofs so that may also be a source for differences within Linux.

David Cousens

On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 16:50 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
> David,
> 
> LibreOffice has it's own GUI toolkit; it can wrap Gtk or Qt or it can
> use its own dialogs. Are you sure that GIMP is on Gtk3? I thought
> that they were still working on converting.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Jul 27, 2018, at 3:46 PM, David Cousens  > m> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > Have posted it as Bug 796789 for V3.2. Other users with other OS
> > and GnuCash
> > versions might like to comment on behavior on their systems which
> > may help
> > with tracking down the problem. Not sure whether it is a bug in
> > Ubuntu and
> > derivatives but Libre Office, GIMP with similar dialogs all seem to
> > be able
> > to access the mounted USB sticks and network locations in the file
> > open
> > dialogs.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > David Cousens
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[David Carlson]

I think that David Cousens is closing in on the problem.  I have seen that
GnuCash 2.6.17 in Ubuntu 16.04 cannot always see network mounted servers,
but on my LAN it appears that it is important to assign the correct domain
name when mounting the server with Nautilus.

David Carlson

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:00 PM, David Cousens 
wrote:

> John,
>
> I'm not really sure what GIMP uses as a UI toolkit. I showed the Libre-
> Office one primarily because on my system it was almost identical in
> appearance and function to the dialog window from Gnucash apart from
> the missing USB mount and network mounts. I have explored a few other
> (non GTK) apps I use and whether they see the network an USB mounts is
> highly variable. As another user pointed out it isn't exactly a show
> stopper as you can always transfer a file elsewhere using Nemo or the
> OS facilities.
>
> I'm also not very familiar with GTK3 either at this stage. I would
> guess they wrap the basic OS file and network access routines. I'll
> have a bit of a dig around the documentation and see if I can unearth
> anything useful. Firefox which uses GTK3 has reported network access
> issues in its file dialog on AskUbuntu (https://askubuntu.com/questions
> /764272/upload-dialogs-for-firefox-and-chrome-now-differ-ffs-doesnt-
> include-network-d). This post on unix  stack exchange, https://unix.sta
> ckexchange.com/questions/198996/prevent-the-gtk-file-dialog-from-
> listing-mount-points,  indicates that there is a way of stopping GTK
> from accessing mounted devices by the udev configuration, so maybe I
> can use the info to enable it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/3
> 04345 for Audacious also reports similar problems and a fix.
>
> Will give it a try later today. I have some of the network mounts done
> in fstab and others for devices which may or may not be available using
> autofs so that may also be a source for differences within Linux.
>
> David Cousens
>
> On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 16:50 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > LibreOffice has it's own GUI toolkit; it can wrap Gtk or Qt or it can
> > use its own dialogs. Are you sure that GIMP is on Gtk3? I thought
> > that they were still working on converting.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 27, 2018, at 3:46 PM, David Cousens  > > m> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > Have posted it as Bug 796789 for V3.2. Other users with other OS
> > > and GnuCash
> > > versions might like to comment on behavior on their systems which
> > > may help
> > > with tracking down the problem. Not sure whether it is a bug in
> > > Ubuntu and
> > > derivatives but Libre Office, GIMP with similar dialogs all seem to
> > > be able
> > > to access the mounted USB sticks and network locations in the file
> > > open
> > > dialogs.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > David Cousens
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[Chris Velevitch]

I am entering a valid date with a digit year with the delimiters e.g.
10/12//10 which yields 10/12/1899.

On 27 July 2018 at 23:01, John Ralls  wrote:

> Delimiters are required for date entry, so the second and fourth versions
> won’t work. I had no trouble with the first and third on the Vendor bill
> entry form.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:50 AM, dlbonline  wrote:
> >
> > I am localized to US settings, and the date strings I have tried are:
> > 05/21/2018
> > 05212018
> > 05/21/18
> > 052118
> >
> > The first one  gets the closest.  This appears to be a problem only on
> the
> > vendor bill entry form, and no other forms that I have tried (which is
> just
> > a few).
> >
> > David Briggs
> > dlbonl...@cox.net
> > 918 625 9170
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: gnucash-user
> > [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+dlbonline=cox@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
> > John Ralls
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:06 AM
> > To: Chris Velevitch 
> > Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Chris Velevitch  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> When I enter a new transaction with a 2-digit year, the resultant date
> >> becames1899. For example, I enter 10 for the year and I get 1899 when
> >> I expect to get 2010. This worked in 2.x.
> >
> > I just tested on 10.14 beta and got the expected 2010. What are your
> locale
> > settings and what string did you enter for the date?
> >
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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[Chris Velevitch]

My locale is Perth, Western Australia (AWST).

On 27 July 2018 at 22:06, John Ralls  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Chris Velevitch 
> wrote:
> >
> > When I enter a new transaction with a 2-digit year, the resultant date
> > becames1899. For example, I enter 10 for the year and I get 1899 when I
> > expect to get 2010. This worked in 2.x.
>
> I just tested on 10.14 beta and got the expected 2010. What are your
> locale settings and what string did you enter for the date?
>
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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[John Ralls]

And are you also on MacOS?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:21 PM, Chris Velevitch  
> wrote:
> 
> My locale is Perth, Western Australia (AWST).
> 
> On 27 July 2018 at 22:06, John Ralls  > wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Chris Velevitch  > > wrote:
> > 
> > When I enter a new transaction with a 2-digit year, the resultant date
> > becames1899. For example, I enter 10 for the year and I get 1899 when I
> > expect to get 2010. This worked in 2.x.
> 
> I just tested on 10.14 beta and got the expected 2010. What are your locale 
> settings and what string did you enter for the date?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
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Re: [GNC] Entering a 2-digit year generates the wrong date

[Chris Velevitch]

I'm sorry, I thought included that info.

I'm running Mac OSX: 10.11.6, GnuCash 3.2+ (2018-06-24)
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 184, Issue 61

[varda241 via gnucash-user]

Thank you all for your responses to my logs issue.I did create a new folder 
named "logs", but when I tried to move the logs into it, they just refused to 
move. So I am back to plan a which is deleting them before I. Copy the files to 
a flush card.Regards, Varda.


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments) (Adrien Monteleone)
   2. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (David Carlson)
   3. Re:  Logs. (John Ralls)
   4. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (John Ralls)
   5. Re:  Logs. (Adrien Monteleone)
   6. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (Colin Law)
   7. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (Colin Law)
   8. Re:  GNUcash 3.2 file open issue (David Carlson)
   9. Re:  Getting My Account To Trial Balance (David Carlson)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:03:24 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone 
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Nabble Delay? (was Re: Future Payments)
Message-ID: <843cb780-db99-47a4-abca-fe44d6413...@lusfiber.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

I certainly never meant to imply conversations need immediate replies. We?re 
all over the planet and are awake at different instances in time. But I?ve 
noticed threads that proceed as if some posts aren?t being seen at the time a 
user makes a reply, and indeed, as DavidT noted, perhaps they aren?t based on 
this delay issue which was my suspicion.

Certainly, I don?t think this is something that needs to be (or even could be) 
addressed, it was just a curiosity.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:13 PM, DaveC49  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> I do use Nabble and also get the user list posts by email but as I am in
> Australia I sometiimes notice there is a long delay associated with being in
> this timezone. I'm not sure where the moderators are located but, I tend to
> post usually in the morning AEST (UTC -10:00) and my posts don't often
> appear on Nabble, until the next morning so often the issue has been dealt
> with by the time a post gets up. We need to be aware that not all responders
> are necessarily in the same time zone.
> 
> This never seemed to be a problem a couple of years ago but maybe the
> location of the moderator(s) has changed and/or they only have a narrow time
> window available to them to lookover posts. Again no criticism of the
> moderators intended or to be inferred.  I have never really expected
> immediate responses in any case so I don't find it too much of a problem but
> it does make conversations on a topic difficult at times.
> 
> The delay is not just whether one is subscribed to the mail  lists or not
> though. I am subscribed to both gnucash-dev and gnucash-user but use Nabble
> a lot of the time and my posts to both are still passed through a moderator
> and it does not matter whether I reply using Nabble online or by email I
> still receive an email saying my post is awaiting moderation.
> 
> David Cousens
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:16:42 -0500
From: David Carlson 
To: Adrien Monteleone 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If I recall, there was an issue unique to another O S, possibly Windows
that required special treatment in the past.  Maybe still true.

I am not a developer  tho so don't quote me.

David C

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 10:58 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Yep, a bug for sure. I?m curious why GC creates its own file/print dialogs
> when they could instead call the native OS dialogs. To me, that?s the bug
> an

Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[David Cousens]

Additional information. The GTK FileChooser dialog has a "local-only"
property which by default is true and has setters and getters to access
it.(https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkFileChooser.html#gtk-file-chooser-get-uris)
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The “local-only” property
  “local-only”   gboolean
Whether the selected file(s) should be limited to local file: URLs.

Flags: Read / Write

Default value: TRUE
---

gtk_file_chooser_set_local_only ()
void
gtk_file_chooser_set_local_only (GtkFileChooser *chooser,
 gboolean local_only);
Sets whether only local files can be selected in the file selector. If
local_only is TRUE (the default), then the selected file or files are
guaranteed to be accessible through the operating systems native file system
and therefore the application only needs to worry about the filename
functions in GtkFileChooser, like gtk_file_chooser_get_filename(), rather
than the URI functions like gtk_file_chooser_get_uri(),

On some systems non-native files may still be available using the native
filesystem via a userspace filesystem (FUSE).

Parameters
chooser

a GtkFileChooser
 
local_only

TRUE if only local files can be selected
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gtk_file_chooser_get_local_only ()
gboolean
gtk_file_chooser_get_local_only (GtkFileChooser *chooser);
Gets whether only local files can be selected in the file selector. See
gtk_file_chooser_set_local_only()

Parameters
chooser

a GtkFileChooser

 
Returns
TRUE if only local files can be selected.
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not sure how this property affects usb mounts and network shares.  I'll
check it out on the v3.2 source code as I have both it and the matesr branch
downloaded and easily built

David



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[GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Shabuboy.joy]

Hello,

I just migrated from Quicken to Gnucash. Loving it so far!

The question i have is: Will Gnucash 3.2 be available for Linux Mint 18.2?
The software manager installed 2.6.12
i did the apt update and upgrade and still same version is listed.

i also tried the getweb but got the same version, at least it told me the
same version was installed already.

I see the new version can be built from the source, but I am far from being
a Linux expert and never done that before.

I also have a MacOS running the 3.2 version, so wanted to match both version
on both systems in order to avoid possible bugs between the different
releases.

Regards



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Re: [GNC] GNUcash 3.2 file open issue

[Colin Law]

On 27 July 2018 at 23:46, David Cousens  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Have posted it as Bug 796789 for V3.2.
>

For some reason I had some difficulty finding this bug, in case anyone else
has this problem it is at
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796789

Colin
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