[Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Hi all, I have created a five-minutes screencast about basic usage of org-protocol.el (also featuring ubiquity commands): http://vimeo.com/5662410 Enjoy, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Help: Convert Org-Mode to Shadowplan for Palm (Centro)
Hello, using both - my Palm OS device with the ShadowPlan outliner and Org-mode, I've tried to bring these two worlds together. Shadow-Org http://code.google.com/p/shadow-org/ are two perl-scripts that can convert org to shadowplan (xml) and back. Doing some testing, it seems that the Tags present in the original shadowplan-file are not included in the XML file. Since my setup in showplan on the palm and in orgmode are based on tags, I would like to know if someone has successfully converted ShadowPlan <-> Orgmode including tags and dates?! Kind regards - Phil ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: javascript expand collapse
Hi Bastien, Thanks for coming back to my request! I'm not sure if Sebastian has already implemented it or not. I saw my friends using a software on Mac called aquaminds to produce webnotes, and that "expand" button is very useful when presenting across the internet during net-work meeting. Here is the one example page (including the "?1" after html): http://www.aquaminds.com/synergy/index.html?1 On this page, one can see the minus sign can be clicked and become plus sign ... Xin On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Bastien wrote: > Hi Xin, > > Xin Shi writes: > > > I'm wondering if it's easy to implement the "javascript expand collapse" > in the > > published page. > > > > [This might be work for Sebastian again :-), but I think this feature > > shall be useful. ] > > How does it differ from what Sebastian already implemented? > > -- > Bastien > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
The screencast is great, but I can't seem to get things working. On OS X, I consistently get a message from Firefox that no application is associated with org-protocol. This happens on both FF 3 and 3.5, and regardless of how I specify emacsclient. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Thanks, Keith On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Bastien wrote: Hi all, I have created a five-minutes screencast about basic usage of org-protocol.el (also featuring ubiquity commands): http://vimeo.com/5662410 Enjoy, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode Keith Lancaster klancaster1...@mac.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Feature request: javascript expand collapse
Xin Shi writes: > > I'm not sure if Sebastian has already implemented it or not. I saw my > friends using a software on Mac called aquaminds to produce webnotes, > and that "expand" button is very useful when presenting across the > internet during net-work meeting. > > Here is the one example page (including the "?1" after html): > > http://www.aquaminds.com/synergy/index.html?1 > > On this page, one can see the minus sign can be clicked and become > plus sign ... Perhaps it's not exactly what you're looking for, but you can already get javascript folding of an exported org file using org-info.js. For an example click on the "toggle view" button on the following page: http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js/#sec-1 Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Bastien wrote: > Hi all, > > I have created a five-minutes screencast about basic usage of > org-protocol.el (also featuring ubiquity commands): > > http://vimeo.com/5662410 Thanks for the neat screencast. I finally configured org-protocol after putting it off for a long time. The only thing that did not work for me was the custom command creation in Ubiquity but I am sure that something to do with my setup. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Keith,I haven't been able to get it to work on OS X either. FF 3.x I believe is broken in that respect. I cannot get applescripts to work with it either. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Keith Lancaster wrote: > The screencast is great, but I can't seem to get things working. On OS X, I > consistently get a message from Firefox that no application is associated > with org-protocol. This happens on both FF 3 and 3.5, and regardless of how > I specify emacsclient. Any thoughts on how to debug this? > > Thanks, > Keith > > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Bastien wrote: > > Hi all, >> >> I have created a five-minutes screencast about basic usage of >> org-protocol.el (also featuring ubiquity commands): >> >> http://vimeo.com/5662410 >> >> Enjoy, >> >> -- >> Bastien >> >> >> ___ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > Keith Lancaster > klancaster1...@mac.com > > > > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Greg, Dang - this was exactly what I'd been looking for... I'd appreciate it if you let me know if you have any luck, and I'll do the same. Keith On Jul 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Greg Newman wrote: Keith, I haven't been able to get it to work on OS X either. FF 3.x I believe is broken in that respect. I cannot get applescripts to work with it either. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Hi Keith, Keith Lancaster writes: > The screencast is great, but I can't seem to get things working. On OS > X, I consistently get a message from Firefox that no application is > associated with org-protocol. Actually the screencast is a bit misleading, as you need to explicity tell FF which program do you use with org-protocol:// See here: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php , | 8. Next time you try to open a location "org-protocol://..." FF will ask |you for the program to use. Enter the path to emacsclient. ` So you need to enter the page to emacsclient. If I have time, I will update the screencast to reflect this. > This happens on both FF 3 and 3.5, and regardless of how I specify > emacsclient. Any thoughts on how to debug this? HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Hi Manish, Manish writes: > Thanks for the neat screencast. I finally configured org-protocol after > putting it off for a long time. The only thing that did not work for me was > the custom command creation in Ubiquity but I am sure that something to do > with my setup. Maybe these two ubiquity commands can help? http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/org-remember-ubiquity-command.php http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/org-store-link-ubiquity-command.php -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: javascript expand collapse
Xin Shi writes: > I'm not sure if Sebastian has already implemented it or not. I saw my friends > using a software on Mac called aquaminds to produce webnotes, and that > "expand" > button is very useful when presenting across the internet during net-work > meeting. > > Here is the one example page (including the "?1" after html): > > http://www.aquaminds.com/synergy/index.html?1 > > On this page, one can see the minus sign can be clicked and become plus sign > ... Ah, I see. Still, I find Sebastian's design far better: no need to look for this little needle (the "minus" sign), just click on the title of a section... -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Feature request: javascript expand collapse
Hi Matt, Thanks for your response. I knew the "toggle" button, but it's not what I need. However, I think based on the current system, it would not be too hard to add those "expand" on ... Xin On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: > Xin Shi writes: > > > > I'm not sure if Sebastian has already implemented it or not. I saw my > > friends using a software on Mac called aquaminds to produce webnotes, > > and that "expand" button is very useful when presenting across the > > internet during net-work meeting. > > > > Here is the one example page (including the "?1" after html): > > > > http://www.aquaminds.com/synergy/index.html?1 > > > > On this page, one can see the minus sign can be clicked and become > > plus sign ... > > Perhaps it's not exactly what you're looking for, but you can already > get javascript folding of an exported org file using org-info.js. > > For an example click on the "toggle view" button on the following page: > > http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js/#sec-1 > > Best, > Matt > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Help: Convert Org-Mode to Shadowplan for Palm (Centro)
p.raschdorff writes: > using both - my Palm OS device with the ShadowPlan outliner and Org-mode, > I've tried to bring these two worlds together. > > Shadow-Org > http://code.google.com/p/shadow-org/ > > are two perl-scripts that can convert org to shadowplan (xml) and back. > Doing some testing, it seems that the Tags present in the original > shadowplan-file are not included in the XML file. > > Since my setup in showplan on the palm and in orgmode are based on tags, I > would like to know if someone has successfully converted ShadowPlan <-> > Orgmode including tags and dates?! I didn't know about ShadowPlan... I like the UI design of the few screenshots I've seen. Sorry I cannot help implementing tags, hope someone will. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Actually, unless I'm missing something there's no need for Ubiquity in order to get this functionality: just assign a keyword to each bookmarklet (for instance, 'org-rem', 'org-link' etc), and then you just press ctrl-l, the keyword that you assigned, and Enter. Gabi Manish wrote: > Thanks for the neat screencast. I finally configured org-protocol > after putting it off for a long time. The only thing that did not > work for me was the custom command creation in Ubiquity but I am sure > that something to do with my setup. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Fwd: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
forgot to cc Begin forwarded message: From: Keith Lancaster Date: July 19, 2009 12:24:46 PM CDT To: Bastien Subject: Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el On Jul 19, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Bastien wrote: Hi Keith, Keith Lancaster writes: The screencast is great, but I can't seem to get things working. On OS X, I consistently get a message from Firefox that no application is associated with org-protocol. Actually the screencast is a bit misleading, as you need to explicity tell FF which program do you use with org-protocol:// See here: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php , | 8. Next time you try to open a location "org-protocol://..." FF will ask |you for the program to use. Enter the path to emacsclient. ` So you need to enter the page to emacsclient. If I have time, I will update the screencast to reflect this. This happens on both FF 3 and 3.5, and regardless of how I specify emacsclient. Any thoughts on how to debug this? HTH, -- Bastien Thanks - however, I did actually do that step, and it did not work. One point is that on the Mac, FF does not ask about which client to use - it just announces that no application is associated with the protocol. I entered the path to emacsclient when I configured FF with the org-protocol setting, and it kept giving me the message. I had no problem configuring it on FF on Ubuntu, so it does look like its a mac FF issue (also, did not work on Opera 10 on the mac). Keith Lancaster klancaster1...@mac.com Keith Lancaster klancaster1...@mac.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: New screencast about org-protocol.el
Keith Lancaster writes: > The screencast is great, but I can't seem to get things working. On OS > X, I consistently get a message from Firefox that no application is > associated with org-protocol. This happens on both FF 3 and 3.5, and > regardless of how I specify emacsclient. Any thoughts on how to debug > this? > Yes, this is a known issue on Mac OS X. I believe that the problem lies not with Firefox per se, but with the way in which Mac OS handles internet protocols. I think someone will have to code something in cocoa or applescript that passes the protocol to emacsclient. See this post by Sebastian for more details: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14903 That said, I don't really know too much about the internals of MacOS X, so I may be wrong about this. BTW, the only browser I was able to get working with org-protocol on the Mac was conkeror, a browser that uses emacs-style keybindings. http://www.conkeror.org For emacs users, conkeror is particularly convenient browser, not least because you can call commands with M-x or get information about commands using "apropos" (C-h a). If anyone is interested in trying it out, I put up instructions on how to set up conkeror on the org-protocol page. You can even bind org-remember to C-c r in conkeror! http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php#sec-8.1 Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: javascript expand collapse
Hi Bastien, On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Bastien wrote: > Xin Shi writes: > > > I'm not sure if Sebastian has already implemented it or not. I saw my > friends > > using a software on Mac called aquaminds to produce webnotes, and that > "expand" > > button is very useful when presenting across the internet during net-work > > meeting. > > > > Here is the one example page (including the "?1" after html): > > > > http://www.aquaminds.com/synergy/index.html?1 > > > > On this page, one can see the minus sign can be clicked and become plus > sign > > ... > > Ah, I see. Still, I find Sebastian's design far better: no need to look > for this little needle (the "minus" sign), just click on the title of a > section... > In my opinion, there is no directly contradict with Sebastian's design, they are targeting to different tasks. It'll be nice it we can include both ... :) Xin > > -- > Bastien > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: javascript expand collapse
Hi Xin, Xin Shi writes: > In my opinion, there is no directly contradict with Sebastian's design, they > are targeting to different tasks. It'll be nice it we can include both ... :) But... to me clicking on the title or clicking on a small button would achieve the same function: i.e. unfold the section. I don't see where there are two different tasks - but maybe I don't understand :/ -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] New screencast about org-protocol.el
Gabi Danon writes: > Actually, unless I'm missing something there's no need for Ubiquity in > order to get this functionality: just assign a keyword to each > bookmarklet (for instance, 'org-rem', 'org-link' etc), and then you > just press ctrl-l, the keyword that you assigned, and Enter. Hey! That's right. :) I didn't know about bookmarklets keywords. I'll definitely have to update this screencast... A better use for ubiquity commands would be to make them more interactive. For example, we could choose the template for org-remember, or add a note for org-store link, etc. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: New screencast about org-protocol.el
Kieth, I've been working (in my spare time) on a applescript solution that's elegant. When I get it finished and working I'll let everyone know. I'm a Safari user but when it's done it will work with FF (or camino) too. *Greg Newman* http://20seven.org twitter: 20seven On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: > Keith Lancaster writes: > > > The screencast is great, but I can't seem to get things working. On OS > > X, I consistently get a message from Firefox that no application is > > associated with org-protocol. This happens on both FF 3 and 3.5, and > > regardless of how I specify emacsclient. Any thoughts on how to debug > > this? > > > > Yes, this is a known issue on Mac OS X. I believe that the problem lies > not with Firefox per se, but with the way in which Mac OS handles > internet protocols. I think someone will have to code something in cocoa > or applescript that passes the protocol to emacsclient. See this post by > Sebastian for more details: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14903 > > That said, I don't really know too much about the internals of MacOS X, > so I may be wrong about this. > > BTW, the only browser I was able to get working with org-protocol on the > Mac was conkeror, a browser that uses emacs-style keybindings. > > http://www.conkeror.org > > For emacs users, conkeror is particularly convenient browser, not least > because you can call commands with M-x or get information about commands > using "apropos" (C-h a). If anyone is interested in trying it out, I put > up instructions on how to set up conkeror on the org-protocol page. You > can even bind org-remember to C-c r in conkeror! > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php#sec-8.1 > > Best, > Matt > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: New screencast about org-protocol.el
On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Greg Newman wrote: Kieth, I've been working (in my spare time) on a applescript solution that's elegant. When I get it finished and working I'll let everyone know. I'm a Safari user but when it's done it will work with FF (or camino) too. Greg Newman http://20seven.org twitter: 20seven Great! I actually use Safari for daily use and FF for debugging / testing, so that's perfect. Keith ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] TAB completion for org-insert-link C-c C-l
Hi all, I just pushed a small change I would like to hear feedback about. The basic idea is to allow TAB completion to suggest stored links when inserting a link with C-c C-l. Here is the log from the git repo: ,[ Also use TAB for completion with org-insert-link. ] | Before this patch the completion mechanism was this: TAB let's you | complete through link prefixes (gnus: file: bbdb: ...) then RET allows | completion if a completion mechanism is available for the chosen prefix. | Navigating through the history of stored links was a separate process, | available through the up/down M-n/M-p keys. | | Now TAB not only completes through link prefixes but also through stored | links. This behavior matches other Emacs completion mechanisms a bit | more closely. ` What do you think? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode as a bug tracker.
Bastien writes: >>> Any reasons why this is not a good idea? >> >> Just remembered that time ago, when the bug tracker for Emacs was >> discussed, Bastien proposed to use org-mode for it. > > Actually I'm glad you bring this up again, as I want to work on this > proposal again. > > There are actually two ideas: > > (1) use org-mode instead of outline-mode in Emacs internal files > etc/TODO and admin/FOR-RELEASE. This is pretty straightforward > and not a big change. As a minimal change, it improves the way we > can navigate through these files, but it opens new possibilities > about adding milestones, tagging tasks, keep track of the email > which originated the task, assign them to someone, etc. Using org-mode instead of outline-mode is a no-brainer. The only incovenient is org's complexity. A basic but effective use of org is straightforward but its extensive documentation may seem daunting for the occasional user. Maybe a paragraph or two at the beginning of the file explaining what's required for adding entries and doing simple queries would help those developers who don't know nor plan to use org for other uses. > (2) use org-mode as a collective bug tracker. > > Let me dwell a bit on the second idea. > > A good bug tracker for Emacs would let both users and developers easily > access (read/write) to a constantly updated bugs database. > > One way to do this with Org files is the "Worg" way: share Org files > over git (or bzr) and let's people contribute to it. However, this is > not a good solution for *users*. Even for developers it's not usable: > people will have to pull the last version of the bug database to check > that they are not working on the same things... too bad. > > Another solution would be to take the Worg road only for publishing the > Org bug database, and take another road for writing stuff into it. I > think a clever system combining HTML input and mail interactions could > do it: > > - A HTML form would let users fill a bug report that would be add to > the Org bug database; > > - M-x report-emacs-bug would be sent to a machine able to extract an > Org subtree from the email and add it to the Org bug database; > > - When a developer is taking any action on a bug (revising, closing, > etc) he emails the updated version of the task to the system and the > system takes care of replace the old entry by the new one. > > - Whenever X changes an entry assigned to Y, Y receives an email > asking for permission about this changes. If yes, then the change > is applied to the bug database, if no it isn't. > > This is the basic workflow. Of course, permissions and other issues > could be refined but I think such a system is feasible. IMAO this setup is more complex and fragile than a conventional bug tracker. The idea may seem appealing at first for a group of veteran emacs users (those who insist on managing the bug database via e-mail because they refuse to use a web browser, for instance) but I'm far from convinced about its effectiveness. >> I argued against because the Emacs bug database would soon fill >> dozens of megabytes and this volume does not fit the philosophy of a >> text-based database. > > I don't think the size of the database would really be an issue for the > system above - but maybe I'm wrong on this. I'm afraid you are. Lots of emacs bug reports comprises hundreds of lines of stack dumps, plus e-mail discussions with lots of quoted text, etc. Org is great for notes, but is it practical for containing tens of thousands of bug reports, some of them made of thousands of lines? And you don't control what's on a bug report, they usually contain all sorts of text constructs and random characters. How well it would deal with bug reports about org's itself, containing excerpts from other org files? Wouldn't this confuse org? >> Another nuisance is attached files. This requires an ad-hoc mechanism >> and I'm not sure I want them stored along with the source files. > > I guess 20MB is because there are many files attached - as Matt > mentioned you can attach files *outside* the bug database so this > isn't really an issue. Nope, the 20MB is the bugs' text alone. But attached files belong to the tickets and supposedly provide key information, so you can wipe them away to a place where they are not distributed along with the bug database. I think org as a bug tracker may work very well for individual developers or for small groups, but not for open big projects such as emacs. -- Óscar ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-remember problem
Org-mode newbie here. I was having trouble getting org-remember to work for me. I have the git version installed and followed the org-manual instructions, but (org-remember-insinuate) kept throwing an error while loading my .emacs. With other solutions suggested on the web, I kept getting an error saying that `Autoload couldn't define org-remember' (or something like that). Googling didn't turn up any other solutions that worked, so I mucked around on my own a bit and found that adding (load-file "~/org-mode/lisp/org-remember.el") to my .emacs solves the problem. (After doing that, (org-remember-insinuate) worked fine.) -- Mark ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-remember problem
Mark Scala wrote: > Org-mode newbie here. I was having trouble getting org-remember to > work for me. I have the git version installed and followed the > org-manual instructions, but (org-remember-insinuate) kept throwing an > error while loading my .emacs. With other solutions suggested on the > web, I kept getting an error saying that `Autoload couldn't define > org-remember' (or something like that). Googling didn't turn up any > other solutions that worked, so I mucked around on my own a bit and > found that adding (load-file "~/org-mode/lisp/org-remember.el") to my > .emacs solves the problem. (After doing that, (org-remember-insinuate) > worked fine.) > I just tried the following: o started emacs without *any* initialization: emacs -Q o modified my load-path to point to the org lisp files: (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/org/lisp") o Did a require on org-install (require 'org-install) That is all that should be necessary to be able to use any core org facility. In particular, the call to org-remember-insinuate succeeds: (org-remember-insinuate) -> (org-remember-apply-template) [The return value is the value of remember-mode-hook, a list of one element at this point.] Does this not work for you? If not, what breaks? If something does break, please read the Feedback section of the manual (http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback) and send a bug report with as much information as possible. Thanks, Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode as a bug tracker.
Óscar Fuentes writes: > Using org-mode instead of outline-mode is a no-brainer. The only > incovenient is org's complexity. A basic but effective use of org is > straightforward but its extensive documentation may seem daunting for > the occasional user. Maybe a paragraph or two at the beginning of the > file explaining what's required for adding entries and doing simple > queries would help those developers who don't know nor plan to use org > for other uses. I will write a page on Worg about this. >> This is the basic workflow. Of course, permissions and other issues >> could be refined but I think such a system is feasible. > > IMAO this setup is more complex and fragile than a conventional bug > tracker. The idea may seem appealing at first for a group of veteran > emacs users (those who insist on managing the bug database via e-mail > because they refuse to use a web browser, for instance) but I'm far from > convinced about its effectiveness. Aside from the scalability of Org wrt to big bug databases, I'm myself only 50% convinced it's an effective setup. I'd be glad to work on the remaining 50%. >> I don't think the size of the database would really be an issue for the >> system above - but maybe I'm wrong on this. > > I'm afraid you are. Lots of emacs bug reports comprises hundreds of > lines of stack dumps, plus e-mail discussions with lots of quoted text, > etc. Org is great for notes, but is it practical for containing tens of > thousands of bug reports, some of them made of thousands of lines? And > you don't control what's on a bug report, they usually contain all sorts > of text constructs and random characters. How well it would deal with > bug reports about org's itself, containing excerpts from other org > files? Wouldn't this confuse org? I don't know. Org is certainly not written for that purpose. But cannot the dumps and discussions but attached as files? If so, the Org database would only need links to these files, not the full bug entry. > Nope, the 20MB is the bugs' text alone. Gee... > But attached files belong to the > tickets and supposedly provide key information, so you can wipe them > away to a place where they are not distributed along with the bug > database. Yes. > I think org as a bug tracker may work very well for individual > developers or for small groups, but not for open big projects such as > emacs. Yes. In the setup I described in the previous email, no human directly write anything in an Org buffer, everything is taken care of by scripts. Which is kinda sick, 'cause Org is for humans. But still, I will continue to brainstorm on this, because if Org is so useful for individual bug databases, there should be a clever and useful way to *share* these individual databases and have a collective tool. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [22] [newbie] install remember?
Hopefully this question isn't too stupid, but I'm up past my bedtime and I've been looking at a lotta docs and not finding an answer to * specific question: if I'm running a (GNU) emacs 22 (like the current stock ubuntu http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/emacs ), do I need to install remember.el separately? (I'm thinking "yes.") If so, ** which version? (I'm thinking "2.0") ** where should I have read which remember I need to install? (presuming I do) * general question: is there an "elisp which"? E.g. code that will ** (useful) given the name of an elisp package (e.g. "remember"), return a boolean: 't if that package has been loaded, 'nil if not. OTTOMH all I got--which doesn't give version, and is way lame--is to C-h a : if that returns nothing ... no such interactive commands are defined. Lame, but better than nothing. ** (better) code that will map the name of an elisp package into the location of its "main" file? or all files in the package? Just asking because, if I knew that, I probably wouldn't need to be asking the specific question: I could see if a remember*.el had already been loaded by my init.el without my setting anything up. TIA, Tom Roche ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
