Re: [dev] stali and the shipped compilers

2010-01-15 Thread Jimmy Tang
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:42:02PM +0100, pancake wrote:
> I would prefer to drop gcc, glibc and all the shit from gnu.
>
> Tcc and dietlibc are usable solutions and maybe the code is not the best 
> one but at least is sane.
>
> Current toolchain is just to get a working version. I know that anselm  
> is really busy these days, like me.. This is the reason why some of  
> those projects are a bit stopped.
>

it would be interesting to see its outcome(s), has anyone looked at the
packaging system for such a distribution? or will a bsd style tree of
code/makefiles be adopted?

> Is there any minimal and complete fortran implementation?
>

not as far as I know, I'm not aware of any minimal f77, f90 or f95
implementations. this is particularly true of f90 and f95 most of
these implementations are commercial and I don't think I have seen any
many free/opensource implementations worth using apart from gfortran.


jimmy


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Re: [dev] stali and the shipped compilers

2010-01-15 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2010/1/14 pancake :
> I would prefer to drop gcc, glibc and all the shit from gnu.

gcc is required unless one doesn't want to fuck with each source code
unfortunately. Obviously glibc is only used when it cannot be avoided,
otherwise my current preference is uclibc.

> Tcc and dietlibc are usable solutions and maybe the code is not the best one
> but at least is sane.

dietlibc is awful. fefe is good at politics but not at coding. tcc is
fine for small stuff.

Cheers,
Anselm



Re: [dev] stali and the shipped compilers

2010-01-15 Thread pancake

Jimmy Tang wrote:

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:42:02PM +0100, pancake wrote:
  

I would prefer to drop gcc, glibc and all the shit from gnu.

Tcc and dietlibc are usable solutions and maybe the code is not the best 
one but at least is sane.


Current toolchain is just to get a working version. I know that anselm  
is really busy these days, like me.. This is the reason why some of  
those projects are a bit stopped.





it would be interesting to see its outcome(s), has anyone looked at the
packaging system for such a distribution? or will a bsd style tree of
code/makefiles be adopted?

  

there is no package system.

I wrote slpm for fun, you can try it if you like

 hg clone http://hg.youterm.com/slpm




Re: [dev] stali and the shipped compilers

2010-01-15 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2010/1/15 Jimmy Tang :
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:42:02PM +0100, pancake wrote:
>> I would prefer to drop gcc, glibc and all the shit from gnu.
>>
>> Tcc and dietlibc are usable solutions and maybe the code is not the best
>> one but at least is sane.
>>
>> Current toolchain is just to get a working version. I know that anselm
>> is really busy these days, like me.. This is the reason why some of
>> those projects are a bit stopped.
>>
>
> it would be interesting to see its outcome(s), has anyone looked at the
> packaging system for such a distribution? or will a bsd style tree of
> code/makefiles be adopted?

There is no need for a packaging system. Updates to the core stali
parts will mainly be binary diffs for executables, so you only replace
executables and potentially config files if needed. I see this as an
advantage btw -- this also supports the way that programs can
update/install themselves more easily.

Cheers,
Anselm



Re: [dev] stali and the shipped compilers

2010-01-15 Thread Enno Boland (Gottox)
cd /; tar ztf package.tar.gz | xargs rm
;)

2010/1/15 Anselm R Garbe :
> 2010/1/15 Jimmy Tang :
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:42:02PM +0100, pancake wrote:
>>> I would prefer to drop gcc, glibc and all the shit from gnu.
>>>
>>> Tcc and dietlibc are usable solutions and maybe the code is not the best
>>> one but at least is sane.
>>>
>>> Current toolchain is just to get a working version. I know that anselm
>>> is really busy these days, like me.. This is the reason why some of
>>> those projects are a bit stopped.
>>>
>>
>> it would be interesting to see its outcome(s), has anyone looked at the
>> packaging system for such a distribution? or will a bsd style tree of
>> code/makefiles be adopted?
>
> There is no need for a packaging system. Updates to the core stali
> parts will mainly be binary diffs for executables, so you only replace
> executables and potentially config files if needed. I see this as an
> advantage btw -- this also supports the way that programs can
> update/install themselves more easily.
>
> Cheers,
> Anselm
>
>



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