Re: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 06/08/15 08:17, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> Thanks Dennis for doing that, great job. I agree we should look deeper into
> what happened in 2015 only.
> 
> Roberto
> 
> 2015-08-06 4:56 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton :
> 
>> In looking for visible indicators of project activity, I created an
>> overview of Bugzilla activity from November 2012 through July 2015.
>>
>> This is a high-level view of gross activity and does not provide fine
>> details.  There is still an interesting picture.
>>
>> My complete tabulation is available in a PDF document at
>> <
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/pmc/project-state/2015-07-BZ-OverallActivity-2015-08-05-dh.pdf
>>> .
>>
>> Here is a summary of what I captured.
>>
>>   2012-11: #121299 First new issue in the Bugzilla of the AOO Top Level
>> Project.
>>   2015-07: #126439 Last new issue in the Bugzilla at the end of July, 2015.
>>
>> By years, (2012 and 2015 partial)
>>
>>  20122013   2014   2015
>>
>>   9292136   1739441 BZ items/month
>>   133 198170 65 New issues/month
>> (averages are rounded to whole numbers)
>>
>> As of 2015-08-05
>>   * the oldest open issue is #497 created
>> 2001-03-02
>>   * 24115 issues still open from before
>>   November, 2012
>>   *  2232 issues remain open of the 5139
>>   new issues from November, 2012
>>   through July, 2015
>>   *   192 issues remain open of the 452
>>   of those created in the first
>>   7 months of 2015
>>
>> The most noticeable aspects are the steady decline in monthly Bugzilla
>> items (i.e., entries of all kinds) and in the number of those that are
>> introduction of new issues.
>>
>> The next observation is of the tremendous number of open issues that
>> preceded the commencement of Apache OpenOffice following the incubation
>> period begun in June 2011.
>>
>> To see other patterns, it is necessary to examine finer details.  I
>> propose to do that only for 2015, so we have a better community
>> understanding of what is happening with issues at this time.
>>
>> I have no interpretation of these trends, and the burden inherited by
>> Apache OpenOffice, other than noticing what they are.
>>

The numbers are not really relevant. We had ever a huge backlog of
issues that will never be fixed and where many of them are probably
obsolete or invalid today. You can also delete them all and can start
from scratch (by the way that would have been my preferred solution for
AOO after we migrated to Apache).

New issues in the last year (maybe last 2) are more valid and deserves
more attention because they are coming from real users who are using
probably one of the newer releases. But what do you expect of these
numbers what you don't already know? You can run more statistic but the
numbers won't become better. More important is to think about a solution
to really work on these issues and reduce the number.

Juergen





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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

[Michal Hriň]

Hi all,

finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US and
sk language.

If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.

The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection is
still refused.

I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
can't be used for massive downloading).


Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example with
self generated certificate)


Thanks everybody!

Regards wih wishing good day,
Michal Hriň





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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

[jan i]

On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Michal Hriň  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
> I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US and
> sk language.
>
> If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.
>
> The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
> generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection is
> still refused.
>
> I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
> limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
> can't be used for massive downloading).
>
>
> Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
> about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example with
> self generated certificate)

I wrote it in an earlier email, search for digital signing. You need a
verisign account and only andrea has a AOO account and you need a simple
modification of the build procedure.

Andrea wanted to add me earlier but due to I believe some complications it
never happened.

Anyhow the way I suggested digital signing, was an idea which I tested, but
others might have different ideas about how to do it. First step would be
to agree on what should be signed (only the setup exe, the runtime exe, the
runtime dll and jars). A good digital signing (like my proposal) contain it
all.

rgds
jan i


>
>
> Thanks everybody!
>
> Regards wih wishing good day,
> Michal Hriň
>
>
>
>
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4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126447] When using LanguageTools, toggling the checkbox "check grammar" in the spell checker removes content

[bugzilla]

Marcus  has asked  for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 126447: When using LanguageTools, toggling the checkbox "check grammar"
in the spell checker removes content
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126447



--- Comment #1 from Marcus  ---
@Stefan: Thanks for the patch. Seems to be an easy fix.

@All: I suggest to accept this issue and fix for the 4.1.2 release.

Reasons:
- Preventing data loss
- Easy fix
- Low risk
- Support the work from AOO contributors

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Re: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

[Marcus]

Thanks for generating the numbers. Even when it is no surprise that we 
have many unsolved issues, it's always good to know the current values.


In general I agree with Juergen and Roberto, we should focus on the 
newer times of AOO.


Suggestion:

To get rid of old issues we need to close all issues that are already in 
a state short before closure [*]:


Duplicate, Irreproducible, Obsolete, Not_an_issue, Verified, Wont_fix

As second step we can close all issues that are in status "Resolved" and 
last updated months/years ago.


Then we have a much lower base of open issues and can filter better 
about age, importantance and severity. Finally it's then easier to 
decide what to do with the remaining open issues.


[*] This makes it necessary to stop all BZ notification mails. Otherwise 
we get flooded by billions of mails and get hit by the Infra team all 
summer long. ;-)


Marcus



Am 08/06/2015 04:56 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

In looking for visible indicators of project activity, I created an overview of 
Bugzilla activity from November 2012 through July 2015.

This is a high-level view of gross activity and does not provide fine details.  
There is still an interesting picture.

My complete tabulation is available in a PDF document at
.

Here is a summary of what I captured.

   2012-11: #121299 First new issue in the Bugzilla of the AOO Top Level 
Project.
   2015-07: #126439 Last new issue in the Bugzilla at the end of July, 2015.

By years, (2012 and 2015 partial)

  20122013   2014   2015

   9292136   1739441 BZ items/month
   133 198170 65 New issues/month
(averages are rounded to whole numbers)

As of 2015-08-05
   * the oldest open issue is #497 created
 2001-03-02
   * 24115 issues still open from before
   November, 2012
   *  2232 issues remain open of the 5139
   new issues from November, 2012
   through July, 2015
   *   192 issues remain open of the 452
   of those created in the first
   7 months of 2015

The most noticeable aspects are the steady decline in monthly Bugzilla items 
(i.e., entries of all kinds) and in the number of those that are introduction 
of new issues.

The next observation is of the tremendous number of open issues that preceded 
the commencement of Apache OpenOffice following the incubation period begun in 
June 2011.

To see other patterns, it is necessary to examine finer details.  I propose to 
do that only for 2015, so we have a better community understanding of what is 
happening with issues at this time.

I have no interpretation of these trends, and the burden inherited by Apache 
OpenOffice, other than noticing what they are.


  -- Dennis E. Hamilton


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Re: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:44:01 -0400
> Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> Did some of my own testing, starting with a clean image of Windows 7
>> Professional x64.  Installed AOO 4.1.1 and created and saved files
>> with Writer, Calc and Impress.  Did the upgrade to Windows 10.
>> Confirmed that I could read and write the previously saved files.
>> Tried both opening the files from within the apps as well as
>> double-clicking the documents from the File Explorer.   I experienced
>> no file permission issues.
>>
>> -Rob
>
> Thanks, Rob.  So we may reasonably conclude that most of the reported 
> problems about read-only files are due to faulty user interaction with Win10. 
>  It is most helpful to have confirmation of that point.
>

We can only really say that there does not seem to be a problem with
the most straightforward upgrade scenario.   There may be an issue,
with Windows or with AOO, in some more complicated scenarios.   Or
not.  It might be worth asking a few questions to see if there is a
pattern:

1) What version of Windows did you upgrade from?

2) 32 bit or 64 bit?

3) The Windows 10 upgrade gives three options:  a) Fresh install, b)
Preserve Data and Programs and c) Preserve data only.   Which did you
do?

4) Where were the documents stored that AOO sees as read-only?  Local
HD?   USB stick?  Cloud storage?

5) Do you see this problem with other applications and their
documents, or only with AOO?

Regards,

-Rob

> Rory
>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>>  wrote:
>> > These accounts don't provide enough information to nail anything down to 
>> > root causes, and some of the forum cases are not resolved one way or the 
>> > other yet.
>> >
>> > My main desktop machine upgraded (with my permission) to Windows 10 Pro 
>> > x64 on the evening of July 29.
>> >
>> > I already had AOO 4.1.1 and LibreOffice 4.3.5.2 installed.
>> >
>> > I just did some random opening of existing .odt and .ods files in both 
>> > applications.  I just opened all AOO applications from the menu window.
>> >
>> > I am unable to find any of these problems.
>> >
>> > I don't dispute that others are having some sort of trouble.  I am saying 
>> > it is not something I can isolate any evidence for.
>> >
>> > We need to have someone who can work with us to resolve a Bugzilla on a 
>> > specific case, being able to provide screen shots or other useful 
>> > information on exactly what is happening, what the messages are, etc.  We 
>> > also need to keep other reports separate unless the detailed actual 
>> > situations are confirmed to be the same.
>> >
>> > I am happy to work with anyone who is able to do that and has a 
>> > demonstrated case of post-upgrade difficulties that we can nail down.
>> >
>> >  - Dennis
>> >
>> > PS: When getting the Windows File Explorer properties for a folder, the 
>> > Read-only attribute box will tend to have a black square in it.  This does 
>> > not mean that all of the files are read only.  This may be misleading some 
>> > folks into thinking that is their problem.  Only if there is a check-mark 
>> > in the box are the files in the folder all set to read-only.  (The black 
>> > box apparently means there might be some read-only files in the folder 
>> > below, and those are usually system files, not everything.)
>> >
>> > PPS: I have seen reports that Windows 10 Home (not Pro) has increased 
>> > security safeguards.  I don't know if this is related or not.
>> >
>> > PPPS: I have not attempted any fresh installs of anything.  I will install 
>> > a later version of LibreOffice to see if there are problems there.  Based 
>> > on my experience so far, I do not expect any.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 05:47
>> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems
>> >
>> > I see this as well:
>> >
>> > http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-changed-all-my-documents-to-read-only/
>> >
>> > The test to do is check the file in Windows Explorer.   Right click
>> > and go to the Properties panel.   If it is marked "read only" there,
>> > with AOO not even running, then it is an OS issue.
>> >
>> > -Rob
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
>> >> I should stat by saying that I do not now use Windows other than an old 
>> >> version for access to archived files in old formats, so what I write 
>> >> below is based on a quick analysis from memory of recent Forum postings.
>> >>
>> >> There are a number of reported Windows 10 problems, some of which are 
>> >> being laid at the door of OpenOffice although they may be generic W10 
>> >> upgrade difficulties and/or user problems with that upgrade.
>> >>
>> >> I list below some of the recent threads.
>> >>
>> >> The most common problem is that the W10 upgrade leaves all OpenOffice 
>> >> files (and, from other repor

Re: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> Thanks for generating the numbers. Even when it is no surprise that we have
> many unsolved issues, it's always good to know the current values.
>

>From the stats perspective, what is interesting is when you have a
real de-duplicated, validated set of defect reports.   That is not
what we have now.  We have numerous duplicates, open issues that
should be closed as fixed, and even many support questions
masquerading as bug reports.  Trying to interpret raw defect report
stats is a hard problem.

> In general I agree with Juergen and Roberto, we should focus on the newer
> times of AOO.
>
> Suggestion:
>
> To get rid of old issues we need to close all issues that are already in a
> state short before closure [*]:
>
> Duplicate, Irreproducible, Obsolete, Not_an_issue, Verified, Wont_fix
>
> As second step we can close all issues that are in status "Resolved" and
> last updated months/years ago.
>
> Then we have a much lower base of open issues and can filter better about
> age, importantance and severity. Finally it's then easier to decide what to
> do with the remaining open issues.
>

This is also an area where new QA volunteers can really make a
difference.   If you recall, a few years ago we did a call for QA
volunteers and had almost a dozen of them going through old issues to
try to validate them in the current AOO build.   This is a task that
can be crowd sourced,...if there is someone who volunteers to organize
the effort, "assign" bugs for other volunteers to look at, answer
questions, give feedback, etc.

Another step we could take is to send a reminder note to all reports
of bugs that have been marked as "needs more information".   Say that
the issue will be closed as "not reproducible" if the needed
information is not made available in, say 4 weeks.   Of course, such
issues can always be reopened if information comes in later.

> [*] This makes it necessary to stop all BZ notification mails. Otherwise we
> get flooded by billions of mails and get hit by the Infra team all summer
> long. ;-)
>

A good reminder ;-)

Regards,

-Rob

> Marcus
>
>
>
>
> Am 08/06/2015 04:56 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
>>
>> In looking for visible indicators of project activity, I created an
>> overview of Bugzilla activity from November 2012 through July 2015.
>>
>> This is a high-level view of gross activity and does not provide fine
>> details.  There is still an interesting picture.
>>
>> My complete tabulation is available in a PDF document at
>>
>> .
>>
>> Here is a summary of what I captured.
>>
>>2012-11: #121299 First new issue in the Bugzilla of the AOO Top Level
>> Project.
>>2015-07: #126439 Last new issue in the Bugzilla at the end of July,
>> 2015.
>>
>> By years, (2012 and 2015 partial)
>>
>>   20122013   2014   2015
>>
>>9292136   1739441 BZ items/month
>>133 198170 65 New issues/month
>> (averages are rounded to whole numbers)
>>
>> As of 2015-08-05
>>* the oldest open issue is #497 created
>>  2001-03-02
>>* 24115 issues still open from before
>>November, 2012
>>*  2232 issues remain open of the 5139
>>new issues from November, 2012
>>through July, 2015
>>*   192 issues remain open of the 452
>>of those created in the first
>>7 months of 2015
>>
>> The most noticeable aspects are the steady decline in monthly Bugzilla
>> items (i.e., entries of all kinds) and in the number of those that are
>> introduction of new issues.
>>
>> The next observation is of the tremendous number of open issues that
>> preceded the commencement of Apache OpenOffice following the incubation
>> period begun in June 2011.
>>
>> To see other patterns, it is necessary to examine finer details.  I
>> propose to do that only for 2015, so we have a better community
>> understanding of what is happening with issues at this time.
>>
>> I have no interpretation of these trends, and the burden inherited by
>> Apache OpenOffice, other than noticing what they are.
>>
>>
>>   -- Dennis E. Hamilton
>
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Re: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:38:58 -0400
Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:44:01 -0400
> > Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> Did some of my own testing, starting with a clean image of Windows 7
> >> Professional x64.  Installed AOO 4.1.1 and created and saved files
> >> with Writer, Calc and Impress.  Did the upgrade to Windows 10.
> >> Confirmed that I could read and write the previously saved files.
> >> Tried both opening the files from within the apps as well as
> >> double-clicking the documents from the File Explorer.   I experienced
> >> no file permission issues.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >
> > Thanks, Rob.  So we may reasonably conclude that most of the reported 
> > problems about read-only files are due to faulty user interaction with 
> > Win10.  It is most helpful to have confirmation of that point.
> >
> 
> We can only really say that there does not seem to be a problem with
> the most straightforward upgrade scenario.   There may be an issue,
> with Windows or with AOO, in some more complicated scenarios.   Or
> not.  It might be worth asking a few questions to see if there is a
> pattern:
> 
> 1) What version of Windows did you upgrade from?
> 
> 2) 32 bit or 64 bit?
> 
> 3) The Windows 10 upgrade gives three options:  a) Fresh install, b)
> Preserve Data and Programs and c) Preserve data only.   Which did you
> do?
> 
> 4) Where were the documents stored that AOO sees as read-only?  Local
> HD?   USB stick?  Cloud storage?
> 
> 5) Do you see this problem with other applications and their
> documents, or only with AOO?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob

I've filed this reply, Rob, and will ask these questions when the problem 
arises.

Rory

> 
> > Rory
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> >>  wrote:
> >> > These accounts don't provide enough information to nail anything down to 
> >> > root causes, and some of the forum cases are not resolved one way or the 
> >> > other yet.
> >> >
> >> > My main desktop machine upgraded (with my permission) to Windows 10 Pro 
> >> > x64 on the evening of July 29.
> >> >
> >> > I already had AOO 4.1.1 and LibreOffice 4.3.5.2 installed.
> >> >
> >> > I just did some random opening of existing .odt and .ods files in both 
> >> > applications.  I just opened all AOO applications from the menu window.
> >> >
> >> > I am unable to find any of these problems.
> >> >
> >> > I don't dispute that others are having some sort of trouble.  I am 
> >> > saying it is not something I can isolate any evidence for.
> >> >
> >> > We need to have someone who can work with us to resolve a Bugzilla on a 
> >> > specific case, being able to provide screen shots or other useful 
> >> > information on exactly what is happening, what the messages are, etc.  
> >> > We also need to keep other reports separate unless the detailed actual 
> >> > situations are confirmed to be the same.
> >> >
> >> > I am happy to work with anyone who is able to do that and has a 
> >> > demonstrated case of post-upgrade difficulties that we can nail down.
> >> >
> >> >  - Dennis
> >> >
> >> > PS: When getting the Windows File Explorer properties for a folder, the 
> >> > Read-only attribute box will tend to have a black square in it.  This 
> >> > does not mean that all of the files are read only.  This may be 
> >> > misleading some folks into thinking that is their problem.  Only if 
> >> > there is a check-mark in the box are the files in the folder all set to 
> >> > read-only.  (The black box apparently means there might be some 
> >> > read-only files in the folder below, and those are usually system files, 
> >> > not everything.)
> >> >
> >> > PPS: I have seen reports that Windows 10 Home (not Pro) has increased 
> >> > security safeguards.  I don't know if this is related or not.
> >> >
> >> > PPPS: I have not attempted any fresh installs of anything.  I will 
> >> > install a later version of LibreOffice to see if there are problems 
> >> > there.  Based on my experience so far, I do not expect any.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 05:47
> >> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems
> >> >
> >> > I see this as well:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-changed-all-my-documents-to-read-only/
> >> >
> >> > The test to do is check the file in Windows Explorer.   Right click
> >> > and go to the Properties panel.   If it is marked "read only" there,
> >> > with AOO not even running, then it is an OS issue.
> >> >
> >> > -Rob
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> >> >> I should stat by saying that I do not now use Windows other than an old 
> >> >> version for access to archived files in old formats, so what I write 
> >> >> below is based on a quick analysis from memory of recent Forum postings.
> >> >>
> >> >> There 

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RE: Reporting broken download link

[Jonathan Stanwood]

Yeah thanks.  3rd time was a charm

 

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From: Roberto Galoppini [mailto:roberto.galopp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:56 AM
To: dev ; Jonathan Stanwood 
Subject: Re: Reporting broken download link

 

It works for me, may be it was a temporary problem.

Thanks,

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Re: [NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

[Michal Hriň]

V Štvrtok,  6. august 2015 o 10:22 +0200, Michal Hriň napísal(a):
> Hi all,
> 
> finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
> I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US 
> and
> sk language.
> 
> If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.
> 
> The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
> generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection 
> is
> still refused.
> 
> I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
> limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
> can't be used for massive downloading).

If somebody would like to try en-US 4.1.2 Early Preview

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=9CF40FA60FBDCD!293&authkey=!AP86Q
1h_P__6LjI&ithint=file%2cexe

> 
> 
> Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
> about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example 
> with
> self generated certificate)
> 
> 
> Thanks everybody!
> 
> Regards wih wishing good day,
> Michal Hriň
> 
> 
> 

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RE: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Marcus, the queries I did for identification of open issues found only issues 
with no resolution of any kind.  That automatically excluded issues with any of 
DUPLICATE, ..., WON'T FIX, and CLOSED status.

Older open issues, some from long before Apache OpenOffice was established, 
continue to receive discussion and comments and, even in 2015, sometimes become 
resolved, including with fixes.  I think it is good to hold onto the history 
simply to be able to reflect that.

I agree that immediate concerns are best explored by looking more deeply into 
the 2015 issues and discussions to gain better perspective.  

I suspect the older open issues to look more closely at first are ones that are 
still being discussed, including being duplicated by new issue reports.

 - Dennis

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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 05:18
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

Thanks for generating the numbers. Even when it is no surprise that we 
have many unsolved issues, it's always good to know the current values.

In general I agree with Juergen and Roberto, we should focus on the 
newer times of AOO.

Suggestion:

To get rid of old issues we need to close all issues that are already in 
a state short before closure [*]:

Duplicate, Irreproducible, Obsolete, Not_an_issue, Verified, Wont_fix

As second step we can close all issues that are in status "Resolved" and 
last updated months/years ago.

Then we have a much lower base of open issues and can filter better 
about age, importantance and severity. Finally it's then easier to 
decide what to do with the remaining open issues.

[*] This makes it necessary to stop all BZ notification mails. Otherwise 
we get flooded by billions of mails and get hit by the Infra team all 
summer long. ;-)

Marcus


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New committer

[jan i]

Hi.

Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.

rgds
jan i.

Re: New committer

[Kay Schenk]

On 08/06/2015 12:50 PM, jan i wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.
> 
> rgds
> jan i.

Welcome Manik!


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[NOTICE] Windows build machine setted up

[jan i]

On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Michal Hriň > wrote:

> V Štvrtok,  6. august 2015 o 10:22 +0200, Michal Hriň napísal(a):
> > Hi all,
> >
> > finally I setted up Windows machine for dev builds.
> > I have compiled build from AOO410 branch, for this time only in US
> > and
> > sk language.
> >
> > If nobody have better solution, I can prepare test builds.
> >
> > The only problem is that I cannot access people.a.o machine, I have
> > generated ssh keys and uploaded public key to my id, but connection
> > is
> > still refused.
> >
> > I can upload builds to OneDrive or to our own server, but it has
> > limitted bandwith so somebody need to copy it, to Apache machines (it
> > can't be used for massive downloading).
>
> If somebody would like to try en-US 4.1.2 Early Preview
>
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=9CF40FA60FBDCD!293&authkey=!AP86Q
> 1h_P__6LjI&ithint=file%2cexe
> 


Thanks for providing a binary, but I am a bit concerned that a version is
made public, before the PMC have even spoken about being ready to make a
release candidate or started voting on a release candidate.

Is this coordinated with the release manager for 4.1.2 ?

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that work is being
done, I am just surprised we are ready to go public with 4.1.2 even as a
pre-view.

rgds
jan i

>
> >
> >
> > Jan - could you sent to me in private step-by-step guide for dummy
> > about digital signing ? I can play a little with it. (for example
> > with
> > self generated certificate)
> >
> >
> > Thanks everybody!
> >
> > Regards wih wishing good day,
> > Michal Hriň
> >
> >
> >
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Re: New committer

[Marcus]

Welcome on board. :-)

Marcus



Am 08/06/2015 09:50 PM, schrieb jan i:

Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.


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