On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Thanks for generating the numbers. Even when it is no surprise that we have
> many unsolved issues, it's always good to know the current values.
>

>From the stats perspective, what is interesting is when you have a
real de-duplicated, validated set of defect reports.   That is not
what we have now.  We have numerous duplicates, open issues that
should be closed as fixed, and even many support questions
masquerading as bug reports.  Trying to interpret raw defect report
stats is a hard problem.

> In general I agree with Juergen and Roberto, we should focus on the newer
> times of AOO.
>
> Suggestion:
>
> To get rid of old issues we need to close all issues that are already in a
> state short before closure [*]:
>
> Duplicate, Irreproducible, Obsolete, Not_an_issue, Verified, Wont_fix
>
> As second step we can close all issues that are in status "Resolved" and
> last updated months/years ago.
>
> Then we have a much lower base of open issues and can filter better about
> age, importantance and severity. Finally it's then easier to decide what to
> do with the remaining open issues.
>

This is also an area where new QA volunteers can really make a
difference.   If you recall, a few years ago we did a call for QA
volunteers and had almost a dozen of them going through old issues to
try to validate them in the current AOO build.   This is a task that
can be crowd sourced,...if there is someone who volunteers to organize
the effort, "assign" bugs for other volunteers to look at, answer
questions, give feedback, etc.

Another step we could take is to send a reminder note to all reports
of bugs that have been marked as "needs more information".   Say that
the issue will be closed as "not reproducible" if the needed
information is not made available in, say 4 weeks.   Of course, such
issues can always be reopened if information comes in later.

> [*] This makes it necessary to stop all BZ notification mails. Otherwise we
> get flooded by billions of mails and get hit by the Infra team all summer
> long. ;-)
>

A good reminder ;-)

Regards,

-Rob

> Marcus
>
>
>
>
> Am 08/06/2015 04:56 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
>>
>> In looking for visible indicators of project activity, I created an
>> overview of Bugzilla activity from November 2012 through July 2015.
>>
>> This is a high-level view of gross activity and does not provide fine
>> details.  There is still an interesting picture.
>>
>> My complete tabulation is available in a PDF document at
>>
>> <http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/pmc/project-state/2015-07-BZ-OverallActivity-2015-08-05-dh.pdf>.
>>
>> Here is a summary of what I captured.
>>
>>    2012-11: #121299 First new issue in the Bugzilla of the AOO Top Level
>> Project.
>>    2015-07: #126439 Last new issue in the Bugzilla at the end of July,
>> 2015.
>>
>> By years, (2012 and 2015 partial)
>>
>>   2012    2013   2014   2015
>>
>>    929    2136   1739    441 BZ items/month
>>    133     198    170     65 New issues/month
>> (averages are rounded to whole numbers)
>>
>> As of 2015-08-05
>>    * the oldest open issue is #497 created
>>      2001-03-02
>>    * 24115 issues still open from before
>>            November, 2012
>>    *  2232 issues remain open of the 5139
>>            new issues from November, 2012
>>            through July, 2015
>>    *   192 issues remain open of the 452
>>            of those created in the first
>>            7 months of 2015
>>
>> The most noticeable aspects are the steady decline in monthly Bugzilla
>> items (i.e., entries of all kinds) and in the number of those that are
>> introduction of new issues.
>>
>> The next observation is of the tremendous number of open issues that
>> preceded the commencement of Apache OpenOffice following the incubation
>> period begun in June 2011.
>>
>> To see other patterns, it is necessary to examine finer details.  I
>> propose to do that only for 2015, so we have a better community
>> understanding of what is happening with issues at this time.
>>
>> I have no interpretation of these trends, and the burden inherited by
>> Apache OpenOffice, other than noticing what they are.
>>
>>
>>   -- Dennis E. Hamilton
>
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