On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:38:58 -0400
Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:44:01 -0400
> > Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Did some of my own testing, starting with a clean image of Windows 7
> >> Professional x64.  Installed AOO 4.1.1 and created and saved files
> >> with Writer, Calc and Impress.  Did the upgrade to Windows 10.
> >> Confirmed that I could read and write the previously saved files.
> >> Tried both opening the files from within the apps as well as
> >> double-clicking the documents from the File Explorer.   I experienced
> >> no file permission issues.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >
> > Thanks, Rob.  So we may reasonably conclude that most of the reported 
> > problems about read-only files are due to faulty user interaction with 
> > Win10.  It is most helpful to have confirmation of that point.
> >
> 
> We can only really say that there does not seem to be a problem with
> the most straightforward upgrade scenario.   There may be an issue,
> with Windows or with AOO, in some more complicated scenarios.   Or
> not.  It might be worth asking a few questions to see if there is a
> pattern:
> 
> 1) What version of Windows did you upgrade from?
> 
> 2) 32 bit or 64 bit?
> 
> 3) The Windows 10 upgrade gives three options:  a) Fresh install, b)
> Preserve Data and Programs and c) Preserve data only.   Which did you
> do?
> 
> 4) Where were the documents stored that AOO sees as read-only?  Local
> HD?   USB stick?  Cloud storage?
> 
> 5) Do you see this problem with other applications and their
> documents, or only with AOO?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob

I've filed this reply, Rob, and will ask these questions when the problem 
arises.

Rory

> 
> > Rory
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> >> <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote:
> >> > These accounts don't provide enough information to nail anything down to 
> >> > root causes, and some of the forum cases are not resolved one way or the 
> >> > other yet.
> >> >
> >> > My main desktop machine upgraded (with my permission) to Windows 10 Pro 
> >> > x64 on the evening of July 29.
> >> >
> >> > I already had AOO 4.1.1 and LibreOffice 4.3.5.2 installed.
> >> >
> >> > I just did some random opening of existing .odt and .ods files in both 
> >> > applications.  I just opened all AOO applications from the menu window.
> >> >
> >> > I am unable to find any of these problems.
> >> >
> >> > I don't dispute that others are having some sort of trouble.  I am 
> >> > saying it is not something I can isolate any evidence for.
> >> >
> >> > We need to have someone who can work with us to resolve a Bugzilla on a 
> >> > specific case, being able to provide screen shots or other useful 
> >> > information on exactly what is happening, what the messages are, etc.  
> >> > We also need to keep other reports separate unless the detailed actual 
> >> > situations are confirmed to be the same.
> >> >
> >> > I am happy to work with anyone who is able to do that and has a 
> >> > demonstrated case of post-upgrade difficulties that we can nail down.
> >> >
> >> >  - Dennis
> >> >
> >> > PS: When getting the Windows File Explorer properties for a folder, the 
> >> > Read-only attribute box will tend to have a black square in it.  This 
> >> > does not mean that all of the files are read only.  This may be 
> >> > misleading some folks into thinking that is their problem.  Only if 
> >> > there is a check-mark in the box are the files in the folder all set to 
> >> > read-only.  (The black box apparently means there might be some 
> >> > read-only files in the folder below, and those are usually system files, 
> >> > not everything.)
> >> >
> >> > PPS: I have seen reports that Windows 10 Home (not Pro) has increased 
> >> > security safeguards.  I don't know if this is related or not.
> >> >
> >> > PPPS: I have not attempted any fresh installs of anything.  I will 
> >> > install a later version of LibreOffice to see if there are problems 
> >> > there.  Based on my experience so far, I do not expect any.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 05:47
> >> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems
> >> >
> >> > I see this as well:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-changed-all-my-documents-to-read-only/
> >> >
> >> > The test to do is check the file in Windows Explorer.   Right click
> >> > and go to the Properties panel.   If it is marked "read only" there,
> >> > with AOO not even running, then it is an OS issue.
> >> >
> >> > -Rob
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
> >> >> I should stat by saying that I do not now use Windows other than an old 
> >> >> version for access to archived files in old formats, so what I write 
> >> >> below is based on a quick analysis from memory of recent Forum postings.
> >> >>
> >> >> There are a number of reported Windows 10 problems, some of which are 
> >> >> being laid at the door of OpenOffice although they may be generic W10 
> >> >> upgrade difficulties and/or user problems with that upgrade.
> >> >>
> >> >> I list below some of the recent threads.
> >> >>
> >> >> The most common problem is that the W10 upgrade leaves all OpenOffice 
> >> >> files (and, from other reports, other application files) in read-only 
> >> >> form;  this read-only may possibly be removable but there is no clear 
> >> >> 100% effective path to do this (from the reports below)
> >> >>
> >> >> Other reports are of inability to open OO applications - Calc 
> >> >> apparently being the most commonly affected.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=78470
> >> >>
> >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78450
> >> >>
> >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=78432
> >> >>
> >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=78445
> >> >>
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