On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:38:58 -0400 Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:44:01 -0400 > > Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: > > > >> Did some of my own testing, starting with a clean image of Windows 7 > >> Professional x64. Installed AOO 4.1.1 and created and saved files > >> with Writer, Calc and Impress. Did the upgrade to Windows 10. > >> Confirmed that I could read and write the previously saved files. > >> Tried both opening the files from within the apps as well as > >> double-clicking the documents from the File Explorer. I experienced > >> no file permission issues. > >> > >> -Rob > > > > Thanks, Rob. So we may reasonably conclude that most of the reported > > problems about read-only files are due to faulty user interaction with > > Win10. It is most helpful to have confirmation of that point. > > > > We can only really say that there does not seem to be a problem with > the most straightforward upgrade scenario. There may be an issue, > with Windows or with AOO, in some more complicated scenarios. Or > not. It might be worth asking a few questions to see if there is a > pattern: > > 1) What version of Windows did you upgrade from? > > 2) 32 bit or 64 bit? > > 3) The Windows 10 upgrade gives three options: a) Fresh install, b) > Preserve Data and Programs and c) Preserve data only. Which did you > do? > > 4) Where were the documents stored that AOO sees as read-only? Local > HD? USB stick? Cloud storage? > > 5) Do you see this problem with other applications and their > documents, or only with AOO? > > Regards, > > -Rob
I've filed this reply, Rob, and will ask these questions when the problem arises. Rory > > > Rory > > > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > >> <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > >> > These accounts don't provide enough information to nail anything down to > >> > root causes, and some of the forum cases are not resolved one way or the > >> > other yet. > >> > > >> > My main desktop machine upgraded (with my permission) to Windows 10 Pro > >> > x64 on the evening of July 29. > >> > > >> > I already had AOO 4.1.1 and LibreOffice 4.3.5.2 installed. > >> > > >> > I just did some random opening of existing .odt and .ods files in both > >> > applications. I just opened all AOO applications from the menu window. > >> > > >> > I am unable to find any of these problems. > >> > > >> > I don't dispute that others are having some sort of trouble. I am > >> > saying it is not something I can isolate any evidence for. > >> > > >> > We need to have someone who can work with us to resolve a Bugzilla on a > >> > specific case, being able to provide screen shots or other useful > >> > information on exactly what is happening, what the messages are, etc. > >> > We also need to keep other reports separate unless the detailed actual > >> > situations are confirmed to be the same. > >> > > >> > I am happy to work with anyone who is able to do that and has a > >> > demonstrated case of post-upgrade difficulties that we can nail down. > >> > > >> > - Dennis > >> > > >> > PS: When getting the Windows File Explorer properties for a folder, the > >> > Read-only attribute box will tend to have a black square in it. This > >> > does not mean that all of the files are read only. This may be > >> > misleading some folks into thinking that is their problem. Only if > >> > there is a check-mark in the box are the files in the folder all set to > >> > read-only. (The black box apparently means there might be some > >> > read-only files in the folder below, and those are usually system files, > >> > not everything.) > >> > > >> > PPS: I have seen reports that Windows 10 Home (not Pro) has increased > >> > security safeguards. I don't know if this is related or not. > >> > > >> > PPPS: I have not attempted any fresh installs of anything. I will > >> > install a later version of LibreOffice to see if there are problems > >> > there. Based on my experience so far, I do not expect any. > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] > >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 05:47 > >> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> > Subject: Re: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems > >> > > >> > I see this as well: > >> > > >> > http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-changed-all-my-documents-to-read-only/ > >> > > >> > The test to do is check the file in Windows Explorer. Right click > >> > and go to the Properties panel. If it is marked "read only" there, > >> > with AOO not even running, then it is an OS issue. > >> > > >> > -Rob > >> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote: > >> >> I should stat by saying that I do not now use Windows other than an old > >> >> version for access to archived files in old formats, so what I write > >> >> below is based on a quick analysis from memory of recent Forum postings. > >> >> > >> >> There are a number of reported Windows 10 problems, some of which are > >> >> being laid at the door of OpenOffice although they may be generic W10 > >> >> upgrade difficulties and/or user problems with that upgrade. > >> >> > >> >> I list below some of the recent threads. > >> >> > >> >> The most common problem is that the W10 upgrade leaves all OpenOffice > >> >> files (and, from other reports, other application files) in read-only > >> >> form; this read-only may possibly be removable but there is no clear > >> >> 100% effective path to do this (from the reports below) > >> >> > >> >> Other reports are of inability to open OO applications - Calc > >> >> apparently being the most commonly affected. > >> >> > >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=78470 > >> >> > >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78450 > >> >> > >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=78432 > >> >> > >> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=78445 > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >> > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org